FabSwingers.com forum: Antibody Test

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Britain at its best yet again.

British scientists have made an 99.8% guaranteed Antibody test.

At last a test that is useful, let the testing begin!

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

It was invented by Switzerland not UK

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

why shouldnt anyine who voted brexit use it??? didnt think the swiss were in the eu

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "

It's ok

As long as they bang saucepans on their doorsteps on a Thursday night they should be allowed

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "
Switzerland is not in the EU.

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By *rofessor_MarcusMan
over a year ago

Chorley

Does it matter?

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

Belgium created a 100% one last week apparently

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1272102/zentech-coronavirus-antibody-tests-scientific-breakthrough-covid-19-lockdown-measures/amp

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Switzerland is in Europe and Brexit voters wanted us to break our links with Europe because they thought we could do better on our own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They ain't in the "club".

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"Switzerland is in Europe and Brexit voters wanted us to break our links with Europe because they thought we could do better on our own"

but the swiss aint in the e.u and i was under the impression brexit voters voted to leave the e.u.we cant lwave europe its a continent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK"

The companies HO is in Switzerland but it was scientists in Edinburgh working for the company that invented the antibody test.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

by the way i voted for neither but if u gona post things at least get it right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Switzerland is in Europe and Brexit voters wanted us to break our links with Europe because they thought we could do better on our own"

We're breaking links with the European Union which in turn does break links with European nations that are in the European Union but not Europe as a whole.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK

The companies HO is in Switzerland but it was scientists in Edinburgh working for the company that invented the antibody test."

This

Although like always our government is slow on the up take and it seems other countries are looking to buy up the tests asap.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK

The companies HO is in Switzerland but it was scientists in Edinburgh working for the company that invented the antibody test.

This

Although like always our government is slow on the up take and it seems other countries are looking to buy up the tests asap.

KJ "
every country will be. And thought some other countries had already got one. Which cares as long as we have one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK

The companies HO is in Switzerland but it was scientists in Edinburgh working for the company that invented the antibody test.

This

Although like always our government is slow on the up take and it seems other countries are looking to buy up the tests asap.

KJ every country will be. And thought some other countries had already got one. Which cares as long as we have one. "

The point is even though Edinburgh scientists have announced this test break through as it stands none will see the light of day in the UK as other countries are buying them all up.

Part of the reason is this test needs lab based results and the uk wants the on the spot result kits but it's those which have been way to unreliable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK

The companies HO is in Switzerland but it was scientists in Edinburgh working for the company that invented the antibody test."

Good old Scotland again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why do some people link Covid-19 with Brexit. It makes no sense

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Hopefully this will be freely available could be a game changer for UK to return to normal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why do some people link Covid-19 with Brexit. It makes no sense

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Brexit is going to be blamed for everything by remainers for year's lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "

What on earth has Brexit got to do with it ??

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "
Switzerland is not in the EU that is why they are so successfull

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

EU,Brexit, Switzerland, I cant fuck any of these, signed Hard Cock.lol.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Why do some people link Covid-19 with Brexit. It makes no sense

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If I answer this I would get banned sadly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK

The companies HO is in Switzerland but it was scientists in Edinburgh working for the company that invented the antibody test.

Good old Scotland again

Let’s climb over the wall & nick it from them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Roche antibody approved by FDA. Expect the same here in the next 2 week. Game changer. France found Covid in pneumonia patients from swabs taken in December. Proves how long this has been around and suppressed by Chinese government. Know myself people who have had this virus (full symptoms) on return from December holidays. Trump maybe a loose cannon (is), but something he was saying are proving true. Merkel and EU criticised him for closing US airports, but then they do the same. All been Chinese white wash. If outbound flights from Wuhan had been stopped less people would be dead now ??

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

This is good news in the fight to deal with the virus. The fact a company with its origins in Scotland has developed this test is testament to the effort everyone is putting in.

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By *unfella469Man
over a year ago

Banbridge

Well said Sally ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Roche antibody approved by FDA. Expect the same here in the next 2 week. Game changer. France found Covid in pneumonia patients from swabs taken in December. Proves how long this has been around and suppressed by Chinese government. Know myself people who have had this virus (full symptoms) on return from December holidays. Trump maybe a loose cannon (is), but something he was saying are proving true. Merkel and EU criticised him for closing US airports, but then they do the same. All been Chinese white wash. If outbound flights from Wuhan had been stopped less people would be dead now ??

Or maybe it was a french citizen who took it into China

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

Isn't it others fault for not stopping flights coming in from China / Wuhan?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love to know if I had it after skiing trip to Bulgaria. Came back and promptly got a really nasty chest infection which is still hanging around now. I for one would like to get my hands on one if it's reliable.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Switzerland is in Europe and Brexit voters wanted us to break our links with Europe because they thought we could do better on our own"
And they say the brexit supporters were mis informed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "

Switzerland isn't in the EU but dont let that get in the way lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK

The companies HO is in Switzerland but it was scientists in Edinburgh working for the company that invented the antibody test.

Good old Scotland again

Let’s climb over the wall & nick it from them

Best watch out for the men in kilts then ha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Switzerland is in Europe and Brexit voters wanted us to break our links with Europe because they thought we could do better on our own"

We are in Europe but not the EU come December, just like Switzerland lol.

You are digging yourself a bigger hole.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

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Will the antibody test be available to everybody, and what about if some people can be reinfected, will that still make the antibody test worth while?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Will the antibody test be available to everybody, and what about if some people can be reinfected, will that still make the antibody test worth while?"

That's something they need to find out.

We cant wait for this test because we have both had covid.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Will the antibody test be available to everybody, and what about if some people can be reinfected, will that still make the antibody test worth while?"

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-scientists-conclude-people-cannot-be-infected-twice-11981721. They are saying you can not get it twice

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By *oAnCouple
over a year ago

Streatham

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "

Why? Switzerland isn't part of the EU it is independent like the UK!

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

"Will the antibody test be available to everybody, and what about if some people can be reinfected, will that still make the antibody test worth while?

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-scientists-conclude-people-cannot-be-infected-twice-11981721. They are saying you can not get it twice"

Great thanks for that. If this is a working and suitable antibody test, then today is a good news day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Switzerland is in Europe and Brexit voters wanted us to break our links with Europe because they thought we could do better on our own

We are in Europe but not the EU come December, just like Switzerland lol.

You are digging yourself a bigger hole."

Switzerland is in EEA. Brexit will put UK out of EEA too. Just saying...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Where did the 99.8% figure come from

99.8% of what ?

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

So please let's take the national pride and Brexit put of this and deal with the implications????

So logically a test is given

Person A tests positive for antibodies

Let's assume for a moment re infection is either not possible or statistically very unlikely

So person A

Allowed to roam the world

Now if the statistics are to be belived most likely less than 2 million Britons have had this

Thus person B

They test negative and must adhere to lockdown rules so in order that "they wont catch it "

Thus person B is forced to be second class citizens

The fab lynch mob threatening bodily harm if they leave the home because they WILL catch it WILL spread it and WILL KILL others

Person B has two choices

Lose their liberties until the vaccine is not developed

Or go onto the black market and aim for infection

The whole thing is a moral nightmare

I think however I maybe suggesting that IF the antibodies test is reliable AND reinfection is statistically low to non THEN

A controlled program of deliberate infection could be required

Whilst ensuring the absolute most potentially vulnerable are exceptionally well shielded from any exposure

WHY OH WHY OH FUCKING WHY is there petty nonsense regarding which country is best and Brexit is beyond me

For fucks sake this needs joined up international thinking

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-antibody-test-with-almost-100-accuracy-could-be-in-uk-in-weeks-11982834

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A controlled program of deliberate infection could be required "

Did you drink disinfectant?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Switzerland is in Europe and Brexit voters wanted us to break our links with Europe because they thought we could do better on our own

We are in Europe but not the EU come December, just like Switzerland lol.

You are digging yourself a bigger hole.

Switzerland is in EEA. Brexit will put UK out of EEA too. Just saying..."

You knew what she meant lol.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"A controlled program of deliberate infection could be required

Did you drink disinfectant?"

Ok so currently we have a slightly controlled RANDOM program of infection

An anti body positive test will give a human their freedom

What do you think some will do ????

I'll say again

A controlled (not random) program of infections MAY be required

Else you most likely will get a program of uncontrolled self infections ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hopefully this will be freely available could be a game changer for UK to return to normal "

This.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A controlled program of deliberate infection could be required

Did you drink disinfectant?

Ok so currently we have a slightly controlled RANDOM program of infection

An anti body positive test will give a human their freedom

What do you think some will do ????

I'll say again

A controlled (not random) program of infections MAY be required

Else you most likely will get a program of uncontrolled self infections ???

So your proposal is to add purposely infected people to the numbers of "randomly" infected people... to obtain what? More deaths?

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

It will be good to see what proportion of the population have been infected

If a large number then it's good news but if it's a small % then it we are still where we are now waiting for a vaccine

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

If this test is as accurate as they say that's great as only accurate tests are worth having. I seem to remember weeks ago tests were available but were rejected as not accurate. As said by the scientists at the time a bad test is worse than no test

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "

OMG

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"A controlled program of deliberate infection could be required

Did you drink disinfectant?

Ok so currently we have a slightly controlled RANDOM program of infection

An anti body positive test will give a human their freedom

What do you think some will do ????

I'll say again

A controlled (not random) program of infections MAY be required

Else you most likely will get a program of uncontrolled self infections ???

So your proposal is to add purposely infected people to the numbers of "randomly" infected people... to obtain what? More deaths?"

Actually no not in addition

And hopefully less deaths

So why would we infect 65 plus ?

Second

If you ask for volunteers

Who once infected have a full lockdown no secondary infections occur

They statistically have good chance of recovery

As apossed to the same volunteers

Going into the wide word actively looking to be infected

I also pointed out that the vulnerable section of society need to isolate more thus reducing deaths

Obviously by the stats the vulnerable 65 plus are not sticking to the rules are they

It takes two the spreader and the catcher

Not all of the deaths are innocent in their own infections

I'll reiterate

The above is a scenario based upon a two tier freedom based upon a test result

IF , IF

a positive result gives additional liberties then some will actively try to self infect THIS WILL cause needless death

Lockdown will exist until

A . enough have had it

B a vaccination

I'd suggest if a vaccination is not forthcoming then controlled infection of medically tested for health individuals is superior not ideal or wanted than random infections

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"It will be good to see what proportion of the population have been infected

If a large number then it's good news but if it's a small % then it we are still where we are now waiting for a vaccine "

The maths suggests 2 million max

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

"It will be good to see what proportion of the population have been infected

If a large number then it's good news but if it's a small % then it we are still where we are now waiting for a vaccine

The maths suggests 2 million max"

If this turns out correct then it won't make any difference

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

The sooner we know the full extent of the infection across the nation the better we will know the fatality rate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Vaccine Vaccine Vaccine is all you hear about, the NHS have been giving out the flu vaccine for year's but not cured the flu yet. So a vaccine is a none starter and they know it, just trying to keep your sprites up while the virus passes through the population.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I'm so shocked how people can turn a positive into a negative. It's got fuck all to do with brexit or politics, it's something that could help everyone.

I despair at how miserable and filled with hatred some of you are.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

"So please let's take the national pride and Brexit put of this and deal with the implications????

So logically a test is given

Person A tests positive for antibodies

Let's assume for a moment re infection is either not possible or statistically very unlikely

So person A

Allowed to roam the world

Now if the statistics are to be belived most likely less than 2 million Britons have had this

Thus person B

They test negative and must adhere to lockdown rules so in order that "they wont catch it "

Thus person B is forced to be second class citizens

The fab lynch mob threatening bodily harm if they leave the home because they WILL catch it WILL spread it and WILL KILL others

Person B has two choices

Lose their liberties until the vaccine is not developed

Or go onto the black market and aim for infection

The whole thing is a moral nightmare

I think however I maybe suggesting that IF the antibodies test is reliable AND reinfection is statistically low to non THEN

A controlled program of deliberate infection could be required

Whilst ensuring the absolute most potentially vulnerable are exceptionally well shielded from any exposure

WHY OH WHY OH FUCKING WHY is there petty nonsense regarding which country is best and Brexit is beyond me

For fucks sake this needs joined up international thinking "

just one more thing I'm not sure about though that may be someone has answered or can answer, if somebody has the test, and has the antibodies, even if they are free to roam does that not mean they can carry it and pass it to other people, even if that's just in the form of having touched a door somewhere and then touching their own front door, or or a neighbor's etc when helping them?

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By *avidandherCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

It's probably won't be the old that deliberately try to get infected, but the youngsters, who expect to recover and want to get on with their lives. Don't forget that a lot of these youngsters are working in care homes and the NHS by day, but can't have full lives outside work.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Vaccine Vaccine Vaccine is all you hear about, the NHS have been giving out the flu vaccine for year's but not cured the flu yet. So a vaccine is a none starter and they know it, just trying to keep your sprites up while the virus passes through the population. "

Theoretically with social restrictions that's a possible rate of 1 million a month

30 to 40 million to go

12 months in a year

Its suggested any more than that rate and the NHS will be overwhelmed and more deaths

A vaccination may or may not occur?????

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"So please let's take the national pride and Brexit put of this and deal with the implications????

So logically a test is given

Person A tests positive for antibodies

Let's assume for a moment re infection is either not possible or statistically very unlikely

So person A

Allowed to roam the world

Now if the statistics are to be belived most likely less than 2 million Britons have had this

Thus person B

They test negative and must adhere to lockdown rules so in order that "they wont catch it "

Thus person B is forced to be second class citizens

The fab lynch mob threatening bodily harm if they leave the home because they WILL catch it WILL spread it and WILL KILL others

Person B has two choices

Lose their liberties until the vaccine is not developed

Or go onto the black market and aim for infection

The whole thing is a moral nightmare

I think however I maybe suggesting that IF the antibodies test is reliable AND reinfection is statistically low to non THEN

A controlled program of deliberate infection could be required

Whilst ensuring the absolute most potentially vulnerable are exceptionally well shielded from any exposure

WHY OH WHY OH FUCKING WHY is there petty nonsense regarding which country is best and Brexit is beyond me

For fucks sake this needs joined up international thinking

Seriously that's actually a fair point however I'm "guessing" transmissions that way would be fairly rare due to time however certainly plausible

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm so shocked how people can turn a positive into a negative. It's got fuck all to do with brexit or politics, it's something that could help everyone.

I despair at how miserable and filled with hatred some of you are.

Hatred?

It was just one silly woman who tried to make some kind of Brexit point over and got her facts horribly wrong.

Shd just got corrected by a few on here .

No hatred.

The antibody tests are really good news.

Regardless where they were researched.

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"It's probably won't be the old that deliberately try to get infected, but the youngsters, who expect to recover and want to get on with their lives. Don't forget that a lot of these youngsters are working in care homes and the NHS by day, but can't have full lives outside work. "

I'll state now

I would sign up

I'd expect my health to be checked for suitability

I'd expect to quarantine at home zero contact 21 days minimum

Personality I'd accept a dnr

But I dont think emergency care unreasonable

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why do some people link Covid-19 with Brexit. It makes no sense

Because if you are in the EU club you do not get COVID-19 - oh but wait

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By *avidandherCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Anti bodies do not develop fully for some weeks after infection. People testing positive in these tests should be over the infectious stage and not able to infect others.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

even if you are not infectious yourself, is it not possible to carry the infection, for example go to the supermarket and touch something that is carrying the germs, (maybe from somebody who is out doing there are essential shopping and has not yet tested positive or for antibodies), could you then not carry that to somebody else?

Even if so, in the end if it works out that the virus has to spread slowly through us for us to get the care we need at the time we need, (and that care be available) and also so for us all to have developed immunity in time, maybe that is a slow way for it to actually progress in a controlled style manner?

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By *avidandherCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

You can infecect other people if you have the virus, even if you don't show symptoms. That is why you should really wear gloves in supermarkets and masks in crowded places. The antigen and antibody test are designed to tell you if you have ever had it without showing symptoms.

Sweden is a very successful model for a country using controlled infection to protect its citizens.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"I'm so shocked how people can turn a positive into a negative. It's got fuck all to do with brexit or politics, it's something that could help everyone.

I despair at how miserable and filled with hatred some of you are.

Hatred?

It was just one silly woman who tried to make some kind of Brexit point over and got her facts horribly wrong.

Shd just got corrected by a few on here .

No hatred.

The antibody tests are really good news.

Regardless where they were researched. "

Yes there is hatred, political point scoring and negativity, the forum is filled with it these days. It's very sad.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK"

No it wasn't!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Unbelievable how a thread about some British success gets transformed in to a Brexit / Political debate!

Not only that, but many of the responses are talking about an entirely different test - unbelievable.

How do you delete a thread?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Where did the 99.8% figure come from

99.8% of what ?"

Scientific testing I would suggest.

Are you a scientist?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm so shocked how people can turn a positive into a negative. It's got fuck all to do with brexit or politics, it's something that could help everyone.

I despair at how miserable and filled with hatred some of you are.

Hatred?

It was just one silly woman who tried to make some kind of Brexit point over and got her facts horribly wrong.

Shd just got corrected by a few on here .

No hatred.

The antibody tests are really good news.

Regardless where they were researched.

Yes there is hatred, political point scoring and negativity, the forum is filled with it these days. It's very sad. "

It's ironic that the only one trying to point score was her and she got it horribly wrong lol.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

"Switzerland is in Europe and Brexit voters wanted us to break our links with Europe because they thought we could do better on our own"

Switzerland is in the mainland of Europe but it's NOT in the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They can’t cure the flu... each seasonal flu virus is different from the year before.

The vaccines come fro the previous years flu strain with a guesstimate on how much the virus has mutated.

Everyone would need to get the vaccine for it to be a cure..... unfortunately no Dr or scientist can see the future viruses and create a vaccine for it x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual."

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

"Unbelievable how a thread about some British success gets transformed in to a Brexit / Political debate!

Not only that, but many of the responses are talking about an entirely different test - unbelievable.

How do you delete a thread?

Nearly as unbelievable as you seeing a news headline about a development from a pharmaceutical multinational as an occasion for some delusional opportunistic flag waving.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Unbelievable how a thread about some British success gets transformed in to a Brexit / Political debate!

Not only that, but many of the responses are talking about an entirely different test - unbelievable.

How do you delete a thread?

Nearly as unbelievable as you seeing a news headline about a development from a pharmaceutical multinational as an occasion for some delusional opportunistic flag waving."

Proud to be British - jog on theres a good chap!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Love to know if I had it after skiing trip to Bulgaria. Came back and promptly got a really nasty chest infection which is still hanging around now. I for one would like to get my hands on one if it's reliable."

You probably did. I had the same, was pumped with antibiotics, inhalers and steroids and nothing touched it

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Nearly as unbelievable as you seeing a news headline about a development from a pharmaceutical multinational as an occasion for some delusional opportunistic flag waving."

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

So your proposal is to add purposely infected people to the numbers of "randomly" infected people... to obtain what? More deaths?"

Isn't this the same concept as herd immunity?

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Unbelievable how a thread about some British success gets transformed in to a Brexit / Political debate!

Not only that, but many of the responses are talking about an entirely different test - unbelievable.

How do you delete a thread?

Nearly as unbelievable as you seeing a news headline about a development from a pharmaceutical multinational as an occasion for some delusional opportunistic flag waving.

Proud to be British - jog on theres a good chap!"

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By *oroRick1027Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"Switzerland is in Europe and Brexit voters wanted us to break our links with Europe because they thought we could do better on our own"

Switzerland is in Europe, but it is not a member of the EU

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

I know for sure that antibodies tests were developed, approved for use and have been used in the rest of the world since April. Some companies involved are Abbott (USA), DiaSorin (Italy), Roche (Switzerland).

But there are many others.

This tests are not used exclusively in the countries where they have been developed. Why UK is not using them is a mystery. But I guess that it's easier to say that other countries are evil and don't want to help us.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

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By *wickermanMan
over a year ago

Staines

Just going to point out that all work on vaccines for vivid based on mapping of its protein coat by Australian scientists.

Fortunately there is no jingoism in the scientific community

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?"

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "

Like many I fear a vaccine or cure is a long way off but let's hope we are wrong on that

So you think anyone that voted brexit should not get a vaccine/ cure if its not developed in the UK.

Does that mean if a vaccine/ cure is developed in the UK then anyone that voted remain does not get it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it. "

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "

Switzerland have never been in the EU....got too much sense!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it.

Switzerland have never been in the EU....got too much sense!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Britain at its best yet again.

British scientists have made an 99.8% guaranteed Antibody test.

At last a test that is useful, let the testing begin! "

Good news, I couldn’t care less who invents the vaccine though

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news."

What is the accuracy of the tests they are using?

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK"

Haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news.

What is the accuracy of the tests they are using? "

Well, I don't know if they had been assessed by independent third-party and what the result was. But, afaik, all those companies claim sensivity and specificity between 97% and 100%.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"I'm so shocked how people can turn a positive into a negative. It's got fuck all to do with brexit or politics, it's something that could help everyone.

I despair at how miserable and filled with hatred some of you are.

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it isnt just on here. This is a win

It's a plus... xx

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By *ensualtouch15Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK

Haha

It was not invented by anyone

It has been developed by the co operation of thousands of humans from different nations and backgrounds over many years and many hours of dedication

Seriously fucking flag wavers

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news.

What is the accuracy of the tests they are using?

Well, I don't know if they had been assessed by independent third-party and what the result was. But, afaik, all those companies claim sensivity and specificity between 97% and 100%."

If they don't say the accuracy its a bit worrying. These sort of tests have been around for over a month now but constantly rejected as they are not accurate.

It's very dangerous to use tests that are not accurate and/ or the supplier won't declare the accuracy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news.

What is the accuracy of the tests they are using?

Well, I don't know if they had been assessed by independent third-party and what the result was. But, afaik, all those companies claim sensivity and specificity between 97% and 100%.

If they don't say the accuracy its a bit worrying. These sort of tests have been around for over a month now but constantly rejected as they are not accurate.

It's very dangerous to use tests that are not accurate and/ or the supplier won't declare the accuracy

I already wrote the "accuracy" and it's pretty good. These tests, including the Edinburgh one, are all roughly equivalent relatively to sensivity and specificity (or accuracy) once you look at the confidence intervals (I didn't find these value for all of them but it's very unlikely that any of this companies did enough tests to have a small interval). These are not "finger prick" tests.

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news.

What is the accuracy of the tests they are using?

Well, I don't know if they had been assessed by independent third-party and what the result was. But, afaik, all those companies claim sensivity and specificity between 97% and 100%.

If they don't say the accuracy its a bit worrying. These sort of tests have been around for over a month now but constantly rejected as they are not accurate.

It's very dangerous to use tests that are not accurate and/ or the supplier won't declare the accuracy

My apologies I thought you said you did not know if they had been tested by a third party or the results

Must be a blonde moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news.

What is the accuracy of the tests they are using?

Well, I don't know if they had been assessed by independent third-party and what the result was. But, afaik, all those companies claim sensivity and specificity between 97% and 100%.

If they don't say the accuracy its a bit worrying. These sort of tests have been around for over a month now but constantly rejected as they are not accurate.

It's very dangerous to use tests that are not accurate and/ or the supplier won't declare the accuracy

My apologies I thought you said you did not know if they had been tested by a third party or the results

Must be a blonde moment"

It is not like the 99.8% claimed by Edinburgh researchers was assessed by anyone else.

Anyway all these tests aren't the magic fingerprick tests that can't possibly work. These are lab tests developed by the same companies that make the PCR tests that everyone already uses and a lot of other stuff.

The fact that I don't know the results of any independent test doesn't prove much except the fact that I don't know everything.

But I wouldn't imagine Germany or Italy using unreliable tests.

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news.

What is the accuracy of the tests they are using?

Well, I don't know if they had been assessed by independent third-party and what the result was. But, afaik, all those companies claim sensivity and specificity between 97% and 100%.

If they don't say the accuracy its a bit worrying. These sort of tests have been around for over a month now but constantly rejected as they are not accurate.

It's very dangerous to use tests that are not accurate and/ or the supplier won't declare the accuracy

My apologies I thought you said you did not know if they had been tested by a third party or the results

Must be a blonde moment

It is not like the 99.8% claimed by Edinburgh researchers was assessed by anyone else.

The fact that I don't know the results of any independent test doesn't prove much except the fact that I don't know everything.

But I wouldn't imagine Germany or Italy using unreliable tests."

As I said I apologise for missing your I info

I have no idea about the edingborough tests or claims as it was not me that mentioned it or started the thread. Are you saying they have not been independently tested to come up with the figure?

I agree I doubt Germany or Italy would use an unreliable test. Only the UK would make such a mistake

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By *na_Luv_4PlayCouple
over a year ago

Santa lucia de Tirajana

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK

The companies HO is in Switzerland but it was scientists in Edinburgh working for the company that invented the antibody test.

Good old Scotland again

Let’s climb over the wall & nick it from them

We're in.. be like great escape scene.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I said I apologise for missing your I info

I have no idea about the edingborough tests or claims as it was not me that mentioned it or started the thread. Are you saying they have not been independently tested to come up with the figure?

I agree I doubt Germany or Italy would use an unreliable test. Only the UK would make such a mistake"

Sorry I thought you were sarcastic hahaha.

Anyway the figures that they usually give are from tests done by the company/researchers themselves. Nothing wrong about this. They may or may not require other tests before approval, no idea.

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

As I said I apologise for missing your I info

I have no idea about the edingborough tests or claims as it was not me that mentioned it or started the thread. Are you saying they have not been independently tested to come up with the figure?

I agree I doubt Germany or Italy would use an unreliable test. Only the UK would make such a mistake

Sorry I thought you were sarcastic hahaha.

Anyway the figures that they usually give are from tests done by the company/researchers themselves. Nothing wrong about this. They may or may not require other tests before approval, no idea."

No only about the UK being the only place to make mistakes but I thank you for the info

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

We still don't know if or how long you're immune for after you've had it so the antibody tests won't actually achieve much until more is known about the immunity to the virus

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

IF the virus is as contagious as claimed then millions have been infected, there is a slaughterhouse in Tipperary that was tested due to a few claiming they had symptoms, on the day of the test 30% were confirmed with it, there was no estimate of how many had recovered or were not yet having enough infection to test positive, in big cities with mass transport and lots of pubs clubs etc I would be surprised to see 50% have had it. This test is a game changer

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We still don't know if or how long you're immune for after you've had it so the antibody tests won't actually achieve much until more is known about the immunity to the virus "

No one has been proved as having COVID-19 twice!

This test is a game changer!

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

"Will the antibody test be available to everybody, and what about if some people can be reinfected, will that still make the antibody test worth while?

That's something they need to find out.

We cant wait for this test because we have both had covid."

Tests are still ongoing to see if a person who has had covid-19 can catch it again.

They don't think it is possible but no one knows yet

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"We still don't know if or how long you're immune for after you've had it so the antibody tests won't actually achieve much until more is known about the immunity to the virus

No one has been proved as having COVID-19 twice!

This test is a game changer!"

They don't know if or how long the immunity will last.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They can only say how long immunity is from the first person who recovered from it if you catch my drift.

As its brand new they cant say let's say for arguments sake that you have have 2 years immunity until 2 years after the first person recovered.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news."

Our government have said there are many tests out there but they are not reliable enough. A bad test is worse than no test at all. Their words.

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By *inkyCoupleForYouCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

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By *inkyCoupleForYouCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

"why shouldnt anyine who voted brexit use it??? didnt think the swiss were in the eu"

Ha ha ha well said!

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

"We still don't know if or how long you're immune for after you've had it so the antibody tests won't actually achieve much until more is known about the immunity to the virus

No one has been proved as having COVID-19 twice!

This test is a game changer!"

They have found cases. But then with any virus there are always some that get it more than once.

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By *inkyCoupleForYouCouple
over a year ago

Bournemouth

"Why do some people link Covid-19 with Brexit. It makes no sense

Totally agree, some people really need to get a life and move on..

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By *udistcpl1Couple
over a year ago

Wirral

"Switzerland is in Europe and Brexit voters wanted us to break our links with Europe because they thought we could do better on our own"

Switzerland are not in the EU and nobody wants to break links. Its about having control not breaking links - some people????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news.

Our government have said there are many tests out there but they are not reliable enough. A bad test is worse than no test at all. Their words. "

Well, this is not true. There are many bad tests around. But in the last month we got many new and working tests.

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "

Why, when switzerland isnt in the eu either

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news.

Our government have said there are many tests out there but they are not reliable enough. A bad test is worse than no test at all. Their words.

Well, this is not true. There are many bad tests around. But in the last month we got many new and working tests."

It is true. That is what they said

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Antibody tests were already developed and are already being widely used across Europe. UK at its best as usual.

Really? So if you are correct, shouldn't we be asking ourselves why our EU friends are not offering it to us.

You seem to be sat on your arse blaming our own government rather than others?

What?

But there are many others.

Or maybe they still have the wrong email address?

All I can find on this is that Roche have had their antibody test approved by the FDA in America. That doesn't mean we won't get it.

You can find news about Germany and Italy conducting antibodies tests since 20th of April. There are probably other countries doing similar things that don't show up in English news.

Our government have said there are many tests out there but they are not reliable enough. A bad test is worse than no test at all. Their words.

Well, this is not true. There are many bad tests around. But in the last month we got many new and working tests."

As I said, it doesn't mean we won't get it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is the one Ive been waiting for. How do we get it

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We don't know how long in duration or how full and effective any immunity may be. We're banking on some immunity being acquired. It just may only be of a very short duration. Worse still, only a tiny fraction of the population may have it.

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By *uysx2Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "

Definitely a case of political bias coming before knowledge. Switzerland are not in the EU.

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By *iltsguy200Man
over a year ago

Warminster

While we may have a reliable test we may not have a vaccine for a long time if at all

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/no-vaccine-for-coronavirus-a-possibility/news-story/34e678ae205b50ea983cc64ab2943608

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London

"Britain at its best yet again.

British scientists have made an 99.8% guaranteed Antibody test.

At last a test that is useful, let the testing begin!

Good news, I couldn’t care less who invents the vaccine though

The only sane person in the room. Thank you.

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By *ildcardMan
over a year ago

Near and Far

"You can infecect other people if you have the virus, even if you don't show symptoms. That is why you should really wear gloves in supermarkets and masks in crowded places. The antigen and antibody test are designed to tell you if you have ever had it without showing symptoms.

Sweden is a very successful model for a country using controlled infection to protect its citizens."

No please!!!! Don't wear gloves. All you do is spread it everywhere! Everything you touch it spreads to. Your hands have pores etc. Just wash your hands. For the gloves to work, you need to change them every time you touch one thing or walk past one person.

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By *ildcardMan
over a year ago

Near and Far

"We still don't know if or how long you're immune for after you've had it so the antibody tests won't actually achieve much until more is known about the immunity to the virus

No one has been proved as having COVID-19 twice!

This test is a game changer!

They have found cases. But then with any virus there are always some that get it more than once. "

Those cases have been proven to be false positives. The test is detecting the dead coronavirus lingering in the body.

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it.

What on earth has Brexit got to do with it ??"

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it.

What on earth has Brexit got to do with it ??

Well said, sounds like a school play ground.

We finally have a test that looks very positive in the fight against this virus.

Surly that’s all that should matter.

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london

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By *ncutgemMan
over a year ago

Bath ish

Whats the point of knowing some one has had it there is no immunity and even if you do get immunity you can still pass it on remember asymptomatic transmission

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"Whats the point of knowing some one has had it there is no immunity and even if you do get immunity you can still pass it on remember asymptomatic transmission "

As far as I know we always get immunity to a virus ONCE our immune system has beaten it(we dont beat aids so dont become immune) even with chicken pox we carry the virus and can develop shingles but not chicken pox again and we dont spread either to other people once our system has stopped it, you only pass covid on when you have it even if asymptomatic once your immune system has cleared it transmission stops.

Covid is likely to mutate as flu and colds do lots of reports that it has several times BUT normally the illness will be less .

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

Just heard from our friend in guys hospital who has had the virus confirmed that all staff are now getting the antibody test. Will be very interesting to see the infection rate.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"So please let's take the national pride and Brexit put of this and deal with the implications????

So logically a test is given

Person A tests positive for antibodies

Let's assume for a moment re infection is either not possible or statistically very unlikely

So person A

Allowed to roam the world

Now if the statistics are to be belived most likely less than 2 million Britons have had this

Thus person B

They test negative and must adhere to lockdown rules so in order that "they wont catch it "

Thus person B is forced to be second class citizens

The fab lynch mob threatening bodily harm if they leave the home because they WILL catch it WILL spread it and WILL KILL others

Person B has two choices

Lose their liberties until the vaccine is not developed

Or go onto the black market and aim for infection

The whole thing is a moral nightmare

I think however I maybe suggesting that IF the antibodies test is reliable AND reinfection is statistically low to non THEN

A controlled program of deliberate infection could be required

Whilst ensuring the absolute most potentially vulnerable are exceptionally well shielded from any exposure

WHY OH WHY OH FUCKING WHY is there petty nonsense regarding which country is best and Brexit is beyond me

For fucks sake this needs joined up international thinking "

brexit got brught into it by someone whos obviously a remainer whio thinks brexit voters shouldnt get the test as its developed in switzerland.compleatly missibg the point the swiss aint in the e.u. and people say only leavers spout bollox lol

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

SEA

"Just heard from our friend in guys hospital who has had the virus confirmed that all staff are now getting the antibody test. Will be very interesting to see the infection rate."

The infection rate in a hospital may be a bit skewed

A recent German sample showed a 15 % infection rate, a fatality rate of 0.37 %. It also showed 1 in 5 of those infected showed no noticeable disease symptoms

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I mentioned Brexit because the original post was "Britain at its best again", not recognising the international effort.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I mentioned Brexit because the original post was "Britain at its best again", not recognising the international effort. "

To be fair this is exactly what stood out to me in the OP. It was worded less as a celebration of there being a test available and more as a 'isn't Britain great' post.

As has been pointed out, developing a test neither makes Britain great nor unique. You can guarantee that it isn't some genetic aptitude unique to British people that led to this work - yet it appears the OP is suggesting this is the case. Scientists all around the world share their findings and knowledge. Very little is done in science now that doesn't rely on a great deal of collaborative work around the globe. Science is in fact one of the least political areas of human endeavor (just take a look at the number of countries involved in the LHC for example), mostly because scientists are intelligent enough to not get fooled by the idiocy that is nationalism and jingoism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I mentioned Brexit because the original post was "Britain at its best again", not recognising the international effort. "

People were not _oaning about your Brexit jibe.

They were laughing that you were sure that Switzerland was in the EU that's all lol

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"Just heard from our friend in guys hospital who has had the virus confirmed that all staff are now getting the antibody test. Will be very interesting to see the infection rate.

The infection rate in a hospital may be a bit skewed

A recent German sample showed a 15 % infection rate, a fatality rate of 0.37 %. It also showed 1 in 5 of those infected showed no noticeable disease symptoms"

I'm sure it will be higher, the interesting bit will be how many had no symptoms,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just heard from our friend in guys hospital who has had the virus confirmed that all staff are now getting the antibody test. Will be very interesting to see the infection rate.

The infection rate in a hospital may be a bit skewed

A recent German sample showed a 15 % infection rate, a fatality rate of 0.37 %. It also showed 1 in 5 of those infected showed no noticeable disease symptoms

I'm sure it will be higher, the interesting bit will be how many had no symptoms,"

Yes your right it will be interesting to see who has had it without them even knowing.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

"I mentioned Brexit because the original post was "Britain at its best again", not recognising the international effort.

To be fair this is exactly what stood out to me in the OP. It was worded less as a celebration of there being a test available and more as a 'isn't Britain great' post.

The other thing that should be pointed out is the only source for the claims made about the test is the company selling the test. The article in the standard reads like a sales brochure.

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By *emmabTV/TS
over a year ago

Leicestershire

Regardless of the silly talk of brexit and it consequences. This test is going to take ages to get any meaningful results. Blood is going to taken from the person with all the drain on resources on the NHS in regard to manpower, ppe, testing capacity and time. The cost for the testing equipment that will be purchased from Roche. This will not come cheap. As for time I am not sure how many people a skilled nurse can draw blood from in a day but will not be on the hundreds more likely between 100 and 200 a day.

The only people that are going to benefit from this test is Roche, not the world's population for sure. We need a pee on a stick type test and I am not sure that will ever come about.

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"I mentioned Brexit because the original post was "Britain at its best again", not recognising the international effort. "

Much of science these days is an international effort and most know this. However I can imagine if this was done in say Germany for instance many people would be saying 'there you go that's why we should not have left the Eu'

For once someone starts a good news story with the UK involved .

Oh and you did not help yourself mentioning the Swiss and the European - sorry but as many have said its incorrect

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"I mentioned Brexit because the original post was "Britain at its best again", not recognising the international effort. "

Or people wanted abit of positivity for the UK after so much bitching about it for months.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

We have just got over 12% of the world's Covid19 deaths yet we don't have 1% of the population.

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By *uicy mushroomMan
over a year ago

elephant and Castle

"why shouldnt anyine who voted brexit use it??? didnt think the swiss were in the eu"

smart reply to a stupid comment

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

"We have just got over 12% of the world's Covid19 deaths yet we don't have 1% of the population. "

As has been said multiple times covid death and infection rates are not just a factor of population.

Other factors include

Age demographics

Vulnerablity demographics

Population density

So a country that does not support its elderly, allows vulnerable citizens to die before their time and has a spread out population will do very well.

I voted to remain if it makes any difference but I see no reason to keep bringing everyone's issues back to a vote held 4 years ago.

You are allowed to have national pride without being a nazi.

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"We have just got over 12% of the world's Covid19 deaths yet we don't have 1% of the population. "

Don't tell me it must be because we mislaid Switzerland

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We have just got over 12% of the world's Covid19 deaths yet we don't have 1% of the population. "

Every country is counting differently and you can not compare apples with pears!

Frankly I wouldn't believe anything that the Korea's, China or many others are saying!

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

"I mentioned Brexit because the original post was "Britain at its best again", not recognising the international effort.

Or people wanted abit of positivity for the UK after so much bitching about it for months."

Which is more important, truth or positivity? In my opionion the way the OP presented the story was inaccurate. They misrepresented what was a pretty thin piece of journalism as a opportunity for some flag waving.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"We have just got over 12% of the world's Covid19 deaths yet we don't have 1% of the population.

Every country is counting differently and you can not compare apples with pears!

Frankly I wouldn't believe anything that the Korea's, China or many others are saying! "

Ahh so that's korea added to the list of big fat liars.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I mentioned Brexit because the original post was "Britain at its best again", not recognising the international effort.

Or people wanted abit of positivity for the UK after so much bitching about it for months.

As someone mentioned above it has most likely been an international effort with scientists working together...that's the positivity we should be taking from this and hopefully going forward.

Not some little englander tub thumping.

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By *uysx2Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham

"As someone mentioned above it has most likely been an international effort with scientists working together...that's the positivity we should be taking from this and hopefully going forward.

Not some little englander tub thumping."

You can spot a leftie a mile away; they're the one's who despise their own country and all it stands for.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"I mentioned Brexit because the original post was "Britain at its best again", not recognising the international effort.

Or people wanted abit of positivity for the UK after so much bitching about it for months.

Maybe it was abit of flag waving but why shouldn't people try to celebrate our achievements? I'm fairly sure other countries would do the same. Yes, it's a global achievement too and all countries deserve recognition but I understand what the OP was trying to do.

Honestly? I'd love to read something positive from the doomsayers, the ones that slag the government off all the time but never actually think that it's that government paying their wages right now, without which half of them would be unemployed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe it was abit of flag waving but why shouldn't people try to celebrate our achievements? I'm fairly sure other countries would do the same. Yes, it's a global achievement too and all countries deserve recognition but I understand what the OP was trying to do.

Well said!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We have just got over 12% of the world's Covid19 deaths yet we don't have 1% of the population.

Every country is counting differently and you can not compare apples with pears!

Frankly I wouldn't believe anything that the Korea's, China or many others are saying! "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK

The companies HO is in Switzerland but it was scientists in Edinburgh working for the company that invented the antibody test.

Good old Scotland again

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it. "

Switzerland was never in the EU!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would not put hope on vaccination. The more sensible idea is the antibody injection, especially in older or at risk people. Rather than your body creating antibodies which is what happens with a vaccine,the antibodies are injected directly into you.Lot more expensive to produce though, and interestingly they give you TWO types just incase one is ineffective. Think the fact they give you two different strains indicates that maybe the virus can mutate, showing how hard it will be to produce an effective vaccine.

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By *ove3funCouple
over a year ago

Cheltenham

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"So anyone who voted Brexit shouldn't use it.

What on earth has Brexit got to do with it ??"

Nothing at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brexit was the departure from the European Union, not Europe. We’re still very much within the continent. Switzerland were not in the Union.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Britain at its best yet again.

British scientists have made an 99.8% guaranteed Antibody test.

At last a test that is useful, let the testing begin! "

Yet again? Did I miss the time Britain was at its best? Shower of shit from beginning to end!

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"As someone mentioned above it has most likely been an international effort with scientists working together...that's the positivity we should be taking from this and hopefully going forward.

Not some little englander tub thumping.

You can spot a leftie a mile away; they're the one's who despise their own country and all it stands for."

Hahah is Bojo is the best we have then absolutely man needs sacking. I celebrate those that invest in our country not those who treat us like a herd ... simple. Health over wealth any day

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Just heard from our friend in guys hospital who has had the virus confirmed that all staff are now getting the antibody test. Will be very interesting to see the infection rate."

Just noticed this was 5 weeks ago did this happen? What was the result? How do they know how long immunity/ antibody level lasts - continuous testing?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anybody know how you can get this test done? I knoe about the virus test very well but not the ante body one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Either way I’ll take my chances, they’re not vaccinating me with a cocktail of shit created by the funding of the wolf in sheep’s clothing that is bill gates

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You could buy online until government blocked it. Saying was not proved reliable. Whatever.Cannot say reliable test available because everyone would want one?? Just seen on Channel 4 that if you live in remote village a in Brazilian rain forest then all 160 occupation can have a test immediately!!! What's happening in UK ?? Please don't tell me Labour party would do any better!! All politicians feed at the same table?

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

"It was invented by Switzerland not UK"

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By *easeandplease1Couple
over a year ago

South Bucks

"Switzerland is in Europe and Brexit voters wanted us to break our links with Europe because they thought we could do better on our own"

Switzerland in geographically in Europe but not in the EU.... so nothing to do with Brexit

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By *nliveneTV/TS
over a year ago

Selby

"Anybody know how you can get this test done? I knoe about the virus test very well but not the ante body one "

Don't think they are available yet

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By *andyladMan
over a year ago

Hereorthere

From what I've seen and read it's ready and being made available to frontline medical staff first, then being made available nationwide. That saying enough are available is anyone's guess.

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By *ootall2920Man
over a year ago

Linlithgow

We can get then through our work. They must be available privately.

As we don't know what level of immunity you have, their worth is still unknown in the medium to long term.

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Antibody Test - 99.8% guaranteed.