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over a year ago

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

They wanted to prove a point that day......cynical old me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yep. If can't get it over 100k again it'll show that fudged the numbers.... And trust will be eroded.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yep. If can't get it over 100k again it'll show that fudged the numbers.... And trust will be eroded....."

Well, you would of thought so.... probably not though..

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother."

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother."

Yep, here is one..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We think the total should be counted on how many results are issued in the day surely not the number of tests taken and samples waiting to be tested. As its monday and the post and delivery services are working again maybe they will get more of the samples returned to the labs to process them and issue results..what is crucial though is that people dont abuse the taking of the test, if you've been in contact with someone who tested positive or shows symptoms then yes take a test but if not why have the test done ? As it shows only that you have the virus at the time the test was taken not that you've had the virus..we know most folks will have minor or possibly no symptoms but we are sure many more who have symptoms or know there in contact with people who have it are waiting to be tested.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

Yep, here is one.."

Think you missed the sarcasm there. Often the case with texts....tho not when spoken directly (Trump)

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??"

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

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over a year ago

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks "

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'...."

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

They wanted to prove a point that day......cynical old me!"
you cant test 100 thousand people a day if there is not 100 thousand that need testing, no point in testing if you are not showing symptoms as it is a waste and will show nothing, having a daily figure is pointless, what matters is all those that need/require a test can get one when required surely.

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby

Huh .. who’d have thought there would be lest people needing a test or less capacity on a Sunday. How dare people take a bit of time off !

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something "

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying?

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying? "

That people's time could be spent in better ways. Thought that was fairly obvious

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Huh .. who’d have thought there would be lest people needing a test or less capacity on a Sunday. How dare people take a bit of time off ! "

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying?

That people's time could be spent in better ways. Thought that was fairly obvious "

Have you not got those better way's to spend your time then?

Actually it's none of my Fekin business..

Last time I looked it's an open forum whereby people give their opinions on a topic, simply saying shut up do something else is not debating..

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By *ighland gentlemanMan
over a year ago

Ardgay

I'd have been more surprised if they hadn't fudged figures to achieve their desired target by time.

After that date, they will then use various excuses why they haven't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol, nobody really debates on here they just try and constantly ram there own opinion down everyone's throats.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying?

That people's time could be spent in better ways. Thought that was fairly obvious

Have you not got those better way's to spend your time then?

Actually it's none of my Fekin business..

Last time I looked it's an open forum whereby people give their opinions on a topic, simply saying shut up do something else is not debating.. "

Except that's nothing like what I said

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying?

That people's time could be spent in better ways. Thought that was fairly obvious

Have you not got those better way's to spend your time then?

Actually it's none of my Fekin business..

Last time I looked it's an open forum whereby people give their opinions on a topic, simply saying shut up do something else is not debating..

Except that's nothing like what I said

It's exactly what you meant..

Which was also picked up on..

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South

It's not just the figures though. When they're blatantly lying about the test numbers it erodes trust in whatever else they say and people like Icke take advantage of that.

It's much easier to get the gullible on board with tin-foil hat theories when you can prove that the people in charge are dishonest.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying?

That people's time could be spent in better ways. Thought that was fairly obvious

Have you not got those better way's to spend your time then?

Actually it's none of my Fekin business..

Last time I looked it's an open forum whereby people give their opinions on a topic, simply saying shut up do something else is not debating..

Except that's nothing like what I said

It's exactly what you meant..

Which was also picked up on.. "

Nope, I say what I mean and I mean what I say and your permission is neither desired or required

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something "

Hey, some of us are still working.... remember?? So, you can only have an opinion if you have volunteered? Yeah, anything but admit you are being lied to. Boris's wobbly buttocks are in your face, but still you insist he wears the silk robes.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

You can have an opinion on anything you like. As can I. We're all adults remember

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying?

That people's time could be spent in better ways. Thought that was fairly obvious

Have you not got those better way's to spend your time then?

Actually it's none of my Fekin business..

Last time I looked it's an open forum whereby people give their opinions on a topic, simply saying shut up do something else is not debating..

Except that's nothing like what I said

It's exactly what you meant..

Which was also picked up on..

Nope, I say what I mean and I mean what I say and your permission is neither desired or required "

Ah, the old I don't like it that you pulled me up when I was out of order routine..

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

You can have an opinion on anything you like. As can I. We're all adults remember

Marvelous, it's a forum innit!

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying?

That people's time could be spent in better ways. Thought that was fairly obvious

Have you not got those better way's to spend your time then?

Actually it's none of my Fekin business..

Last time I looked it's an open forum whereby people give their opinions on a topic, simply saying shut up do something else is not debating..

Except that's nothing like what I said

It's exactly what you meant..

Which was also picked up on..

Nope, I say what I mean and I mean what I say and your permission is neither desired or required

Ah, the old I don't like it that you pulled me up when I was out of order routine..

It's out of order to have an opinion? I think this says all I need to know

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

You can have an opinion on anything you like. As can I. We're all adults remember

Marvelous, it's a forum innit!"

It is, I don't agree with you and you don't agree with me and that's perfectly ok

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying?

That people's time could be spent in better ways. Thought that was fairly obvious

Have you not got those better way's to spend your time then?

Actually it's none of my Fekin business..

Last time I looked it's an open forum whereby people give their opinions on a topic, simply saying shut up do something else is not debating..

Except that's nothing like what I said

It's exactly what you meant..

Which was also picked up on..

Nope, I say what I mean and I mean what I say and your permission is neither desired or required

Ah, the old I don't like it that you pulled me up when I was out of order routine..

It's out of order to have an opinion? I think this says all I need to know

No course not and you know that..

The suggestion you made above etc etc..

Which you knew when you made it..

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

Exactly

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??"

How about being happy that 77,000 tests are being done?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

How about being happy that 77,000 tests are being done?"

How about the government stops pulling arbitrary figures out of it's arse and starts being bloody honest??

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Governments of all types lie, its not news as they allways have and will continue to do it..

To get votes, to gain power, to look like they are doing better than they are..

Hence today they are saying that 25% of 'us' not turning up is why the numbers are down..

Not the best excuse given the maths but again it will be swallowed..

Pretty stupid of Hancock to pluck a figure out of the air, suppose it wasn't 250 thousand though..

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

How about being happy that 77,000 tests are being done?

How about the government stops pulling arbitrary figures out of it's arse and starts being bloody honest??"

Not really government figures though, they are from Public Health England, the NHS and from devolved government nations health services.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

This

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

This

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

I think the government are doing pretty well, we can all be 'armchair refs' but actually doing it is a whole different matter, and probably far more complex than most will ever understand. K

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think the government are doing pretty well, we can all be 'armchair refs' but actually doing it is a whole different matter, and probably far more complex than most will ever understand. K"

It's called scrutiny....hell, even Piers Morgan has been doing it. Never thought I'd agree with that fella!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

This

I know all governments lie, but this one is raising the bar. The incompetence is frankly breathtaking. The only other thing that is more shocking is how people seem to be aware they are and just don't really care!"
where is the lies in the statement above exactly??, I am saying there is no point testing 100k a day just for the sake of it to meet a figure, what's matters is all that need a test can get one when required is the important thing isn't it, or do you just want 100k a day done no matter what? If they only tested 77k on Sunday was this because that's all there was that needed testing? I will admit I dnt know the answer to this but I also suspect neither do you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

This

I know all governments lie, but this one is raising the bar. The incompetence is frankly breathtaking. The only other thing that is more shocking is how people seem to be aware they are and just don't really care! where is the lies in the statement above exactly??, I am saying there is no point testing 100k a day just for the sake of it to meet a figure, what's matters is all that need a test can get one when required is the important thing isn't it, or do you just want 100k a day done no matter what? If they only tested 77k on Sunday was this because that's all there was that needed testing? I will admit I dnt know the answer to this but I also suspect neither do you."

So why set the 100k target in the first place? As I said, daft arbitrary figures...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

This

I know all governments lie, but this one is raising the bar. The incompetence is frankly breathtaking. The only other thing that is more shocking is how people seem to be aware they are and just don't really care! where is the lies in the statement above exactly??, I am saying there is no point testing 100k a day just for the sake of it to meet a figure, what's matters is all that need a test can get one when required is the important thing isn't it, or do you just want 100k a day done no matter what? If they only tested 77k on Sunday was this because that's all there was that needed testing? I will admit I dnt know the answer to this but I also suspect neither do you."

A lot of people need a test. Just because the rules says that you don't qualify unless you are a key worker, it doesn't mean that non-keyworkers don't need it.

If a non-keyworker develops symptoms and call 111 they would simply tell them to stay at home and shut up, no test, no assistance.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Besides, if the 'track and trace' approach is going to work, 77,000 won't cut it I wouldn't of thought??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The test is a waste of time and effort.

The test is only 70% accurate and only tells you if you have got COVID-19!

Test does not say whether you have already had it or whether you are going to get it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

This

I know all governments lie, but this one is raising the bar. The incompetence is frankly breathtaking. The only other thing that is more shocking is how people seem to be aware they are and just don't really care! where is the lies in the statement above exactly??, I am saying there is no point testing 100k a day just for the sake of it to meet a figure, what's matters is all that need a test can get one when required is the important thing isn't it, or do you just want 100k a day done no matter what? If they only tested 77k on Sunday was this because that's all there was that needed testing? I will admit I dnt know the answer to this but I also suspect neither do you.

A lot of people need a test. Just because the rules says that you don't qualify unless you are a key worker, it doesn't mean that non-keyworkers don't need it.

If a non-keyworker develops symptoms and call 111 they would simply tell them to stay at home and shut up, no test, no assistance."
This is not true, it is open to anyone that is working or travelling to and from work now regardless of whether or not they are key workers, people of 65 etc, have a look at the Gov website.

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

The whole test thing got turned into a political football - I'm sure it's nice to have a test but seeing that a negative result is good for about 10 minutes, are they of any real value.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"you cant test 100 thousand people a day if there is not 100 thousand that need testing, no point in testing if you are not showing symptoms as it is a waste and will show nothing, having a daily figure is pointless, what matters is all those that need/require a test can get one when required surely."

Biggest load of rubbish I've read on here for quite some time, well done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

This

I know all governments lie, but this one is raising the bar. The incompetence is frankly breathtaking. The only other thing that is more shocking is how people seem to be aware they are and just don't really care! where is the lies in the statement above exactly??, I am saying there is no point testing 100k a day just for the sake of it to meet a figure, what's matters is all that need a test can get one when required is the important thing isn't it, or do you just want 100k a day done no matter what? If they only tested 77k on Sunday was this because that's all there was that needed testing? I will admit I dnt know the answer to this but I also suspect neither do you.

A lot of people need a test. Just because the rules says that you don't qualify unless you are a key worker, it doesn't mean that non-keyworkers don't need it.

If a non-keyworker develops symptoms and call 111 they would simply tell them to stay at home and shut up, no test, no assistance. This is not true, it is open to anyone that is working or travelling to and from work now regardless of whether or not they are key workers, people of 65 etc, have a look at the Gov website."

Which isn't the majority of people anyway...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Usual Tories changing numbers to suit their agenda.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Biggest load of rubbish I've read on here for quite some time, well done

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would you care to explain why this is such a load of rubbish then? If everyone that needs testing is tested when they require it how is that rubbish????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'...."

It was always going to happen since getting to the target was a superficial stunt rather than the growth of testing we were actually seeing.

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By *oroRick1027Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Can someone please tell me how else you would count the number of home tests, if not the day they are sent out.

They will be arriving at people's houses on different days, they will take the test on different days and send them back on different days.

The only consistent and measurable fact, is the day they were sent out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

They wanted to prove a point that day......cynical old me!"

That's the thing, they could hit 100k tests by pulling in the tests from before not recorded and the tests given out that will have results in the future.

But the problem with that is that the number of tests for a period afterwards will look shit by comparison.

Time will tell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

How about being happy that 77,000 tests are being done?"

People would have been happy with that if the govt had admitted failure of attaining the target.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can someone please tell me how else you would count the number of home tests, if not the day they are sent out.

They will be arriving at people's houses on different days, they will take the test on different days and send them back on different days.

The only consistent and measurable fact, is the day they were sent out."

You should count them on the day on which you have the result of the test.

Saying that you completed a test if you don't have the result is stupid. This way you can post 1 million test in one day and never get them back. You will have 1 million official tests done and 0 results. Does is make sense to you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

This

Fingers crossed it's more of a temporary acceptance than not caring (doubtful, but one can hope).

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

This

Fingers crossed it's more of a temporary acceptance than not caring (doubtful, but one can hope). "

We live in hope!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can someone please tell me how else you would count the number of home tests, if not the day they are sent out.

They will be arriving at people's houses on different days, they will take the test on different days and send them back on different days.

The only consistent and measurable fact, is the day they were sent out."

IMO all tests should be counted when they have been tested and digitally recorded.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Biggest load of rubbish I've read on here for quite some time, well done

would you care to explain why this is such a load of rubbish then? If everyone that needs testing is tested when they require it how is that rubbish????"

This bit....

no point in testing if you are not showing symptoms as it is a waste and will show nothing

So you're saying your scientific examinations have determined any test for covid-19 will not show you have the virus if you are not showing any symptoms.....that's how viruses spread so easily, you're the most infections before you show any symptoms.

There

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By *oroRick1027Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

The daily figures have always been the number of tests carried out that day. We all know the results take a day or two.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying?

That people's time could be spent in better ways. Thought that was fairly obvious

Have you not got those better way's to spend your time then?

Actually it's none of my Fekin business..

Last time I looked it's an open forum whereby people give their opinions on a topic, simply saying shut up do something else is not debating..

Except that's nothing like what I said

It's exactly what you meant..

Which was also picked up on..

Nope, I say what I mean and I mean what I say and your permission is neither desired or required

Ah, the old I don't like it that you pulled me up when I was out of order routine..

It's out of order to have an opinion? I think this says all I need to know

No course not and you know that..

The suggestion you made above etc etc..

Which you knew when you made it.. "

Well yes obviously I know what I meant and obviously you dont but good on you for trying

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Biggest load of rubbish I've read on here for quite some time, well done

would you care to explain why this is such a load of rubbish then? If everyone that needs testing is tested when they require it how is that rubbish????

This bit....

no point in testing if you are not showing symptoms as it is a waste and will show nothing

There

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But you cannot get tested unless you are showing symptoms unless you are key worker or NHS, everyone else can only get a test if they are showing symptoms, so what you are saying is everyone should be tested no matter if they show symptoms or not, and to this I agree, but seeing as this is not the case at the minute, you can only test the number of people who have met the criteria no matter how many there are, and if its 70k a day that's what it is. No where did I talk about my scientific calculations, I am not a scientist and dont profess to be one either.

I am fully aware a lot of people are asymptomatic and from personal experience I know the tests are not totally reliable and sometimes have to be done more than once as was mine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Biggest load of rubbish I've read on here for quite some time, well done

would you care to explain why this is such a load of rubbish then? If everyone that needs testing is tested when they require it how is that rubbish????

This bit....

no point in testing if you are not showing symptoms as it is a waste and will show nothing

There

But you cannot get tested unless you are showing symptoms unless you are key worker or NHS, everyone else can only get a test if they are showing symptoms, so what you are saying is everyone should be tested no matter if they show symptoms or not, and to this I agree, but seeing as this is not the case at the minute, you can only test the number of people who have met the criteria no matter how many there are, and if its 70k a day that's what it is. No where did I talk about my scientific calculations, I am not a scientist and dont profess to be one either.

I am fully aware a lot of people are asymptomatic and from personal experience I know the tests are not totally reliable and sometimes have to be done more than once as was mine."

You're vastly expanding now on the section of your post I was commenting on

You said

no point in testing if you are not showing symptoms as it is a waste and will show nothing

Of course it will show something, it'll show if you are carrying the virus or not carrying the virus, obviously depending on the accuracy of the test.

Secondly if they are say only testing people with symptoms then the test is going to show if the symptoms people have relates to them actually having the virus or not.

So either way, whoever is tested, there is a point to doing testing and it's not a waste of time and it won't show nothing as you claimed if people don't have symptoms.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying?

That people's time could be spent in better ways. Thought that was fairly obvious

Have you not got those better way's to spend your time then?

Actually it's none of my Fekin business..

Last time I looked it's an open forum whereby people give their opinions on a topic, simply saying shut up do something else is not debating..

Except that's nothing like what I said

It's exactly what you meant..

Which was also picked up on..

Nope, I say what I mean and I mean what I say and your permission is neither desired or required

Ah, the old I don't like it that you pulled me up when I was out of order routine..

It's out of order to have an opinion? I think this says all I need to know

No course not and you know that..

The suggestion you made above etc etc..

Which you knew when you made it..

Well yes obviously I know what I meant and obviously you dont but good on you for trying"

It was pretty obvious what you meant tbh, and now you're engaging in obfuscation to try and weasel out of it. Are you a government minister by any chance?

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yeh I mean 77,000 tests is rubbish isn't it, may as well not bother.

So easy to sit on the sidelines and take pot shots

You mean call the government out for misleading people??

Time to get yourself busy me thinks

Translated 'shut up and stop saying how dishonest this shambles of a government is'....

Or you could get on board and volunteer for something

Just how many years volunteering in your eyes 'qualifies' a person exercising their right to voice their opinions?

And are you saying that law abiding people who have contributed to society, paid their dues maybe even served their community and country may also do so..

Actually what is it your saying?

That people's time could be spent in better ways. Thought that was fairly obvious

Have you not got those better way's to spend your time then?

Actually it's none of my Fekin business..

Last time I looked it's an open forum whereby people give their opinions on a topic, simply saying shut up do something else is not debating..

Except that's nothing like what I said

It's exactly what you meant..

Which was also picked up on..

Nope, I say what I mean and I mean what I say and your permission is neither desired or required

Ah, the old I don't like it that you pulled me up when I was out of order routine..

It's out of order to have an opinion? I think this says all I need to know

No course not and you know that..

The suggestion you made above etc etc..

Which you knew when you made it..

Well yes obviously I know what I meant and obviously you dont but good on you for trying

It was pretty obvious what you meant tbh, and now you're engaging in obfuscation to try and weasel out of it. Are you a government minister by any chance?"

Of course it was obvious what I meant, because I said exactly what I meant

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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago

Burgess Hill & Birmingham

1st May - 122,347 tests (30/04)

2nd May - 105,937 tests (01/05)

3rd May - 76,496 tests (02/05)

4th May - 85,186 tests (03/05)

Scrutiny is required if the downward trend continues. But it was the weekend so possibly less tests were posted/requested then?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can someone please tell me how else you would count the number of home tests, if not the day they are sent out.

They will be arriving at people's houses on different days, they will take the test on different days and send them back on different days.

The only consistent and measurable fact, is the day they were sent out."

How about when they are sent back and tested? Until then they are Schrodinger's tests, they both exist and don't exist at the same time.

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By *xycpl699Couple
over a year ago

kilmarnock

"I think the government are doing pretty well, we can all be 'armchair refs' but actually doing it is a whole different matter, and probably far more complex than most will ever understand. K

It's called scrutiny....hell, even Piers Morgan has been doing it. Never thought I'd agree with that fella!"
yep me to but I like Morgan now least he asks good questions. Hollie

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By *utualpleasure42Man
over a year ago

enter location here

People praised piers when he used to be a knooob. Now they hate him when he's asking good questions.

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"1st May - 122,347 tests (30/04)

2nd May - 105,937 tests (01/05)

3rd May - 76,496 tests (02/05)

4th May - 85,186 tests (03/05)

Scrutiny is required if the downward trend continues. But it was the weekend so possibly less tests were posted/requested then?"

maybe a weekly figure would be better to iron out the weekend effect

just a thought

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington

"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/coronavirus-uk-testing-rate-daily-target-falls-hancock-a9496656.html

They wanted to prove a point that day......cynical old me!you cant test 100 thousand people a day if there is not 100 thousand that need testing, no point in testing if you are not showing symptoms as it is a waste and will show nothing, having a daily figure is pointless, what matters is all those that need/require a test can get one when required surely."
This is a brutal and cruel critique of anyone foolish enough to dream up a daily target. Now remind me, who dreamed up the idea of a daily target? I'm guessing you're not a membr of the Matt Hancock fan club...

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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago

Burgess Hill & Birmingham

"1st May - 122,347 tests (30/04)

2nd May - 105,937 tests (01/05)

3rd May - 76,496 tests (02/05)

4th May - 85,186 tests (03/05)

Scrutiny is required if the downward trend continues. But it was the weekend so possibly less tests were posted/requested then?"

5th May - 84,806 tests (04/05).

This is concerning.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

Notice how there are no headlines saying all the test are taken in the first hour of the website opening. I'm guessing people can't be arsed to sign up for them now they are freely available. What with having to drive all that way to the test centre.

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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago

Burgess Hill & Birmingham

1st May - 122,347 tests (30/04)

2nd May - 105,937 tests (01/05)

3rd May - 76,496 tests (02/05)

4th May - 85,186 tests (03/05)

5th May - 84,806 tests (04/05)

6th May - 69,463 tests (05/05)

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

Just checked on Gov website.

Drive through tests are still available to be booked in all regions except Wales.

Tests via post are still available today.

Perhaps all the people elligible for tests have had them?

Cant test people who aren't booking one.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"1st May - 122,347 tests (30/04)

2nd May - 105,937 tests (01/05)

3rd May - 76,496 tests (02/05)

4th May - 85,186 tests (03/05)

5th May - 84,806 tests (04/05)

6th May - 69,463 tests (05/05)"

Massive amount of work and effort put in to creating testing infrastructure and opened up who can request a test.

What has the government not done that would see the number of daily tests taken up decrease?

Is it the old adage "you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink"?

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