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"A long time before they open and even longer before some of us feel safe enough to go to them. Going to Tesco is frightening enough lol" Haha! True!  | |||
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"As previously posted no one knows. Read report today on airline industry struggling how to introduce distancing and probably no tourism abroad till end of season. A poll said high percentage probably won't pub, club or restaurant visit till between 2 and 6 months after virus under control. Sobering thoughts for many lines of businesses, not just clubs on here. " I dont know who they ask on these polls to be fair. As apart from on fab forums I know very few who arent eagerly awaiting the day they can book a meal out or nip to the pub. Clubs are obviously going to be more difficult due to social distancing but I've read numerous things today suggesting social distancing could be eased soon but it's speculation at best. Other counties are now allowing restaurants to open etc and cafes and I believe pubs too x | |||
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"How long do you think it will take for the clubs to return to normal numbers? It might be incredibly hard to keep going " There's a few that shouldn't reopen, it will show with this. Will be more businesses closing their doors for good, it's so sad. | |||
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"If you go to a club you have a chance of catching a sdi now you have the chance of catching covid19, if you arent in the vulnerable category I dont see what the problem is, by the time they and pubs, cinemas etc are allowed to open a large proportion of people will have had it so little risk imvho. If you live with or visit someone who is vulnerable then dont go or stay away for 14 days at least after going anywhere you may catch it. The virus cant be stopped until we all have had it or been vaccinated " Well said | |||
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"If you go to a club you have a chance of catching a sdi now you have the chance of catching covid19, if you arent in the vulnerable category I dont see what the problem is, by the time they and pubs, cinemas etc are allowed to open a large proportion of people will have had it so little risk imvho. If you live with or visit someone who is vulnerable then dont go or stay away for 14 days at least after going anywhere you may catch it. The virus cant be stopped until we all have had it or been vaccinated " Spot on | |||
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"It's hard to know when they will be allowed to open up and they won't operate normally until they drop the social distancing and that isn't anytime soon." xmas eve I'm reliably informed    | |||
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"I can see pubs and restaurants changing how they do things initially in order to open, whether that is financially viable is another thing but clubs in general looks a lot different till who knows when.. Worrying times for the owners, those running them.. " Yup. Pubs and restaurants can put in not unreasonable measures for Social Distancing. Clubs by there nature of business are going to struggle with this. Plus I’m sure they will be at the very back of the line for the government to even think about. Worrying time’s. When they open they deserve club goers full support if people are financially able. | |||
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"They are gone - along with cinemas, pubs, restaurants and football matches. They were all in the old world not the new world we are now in" Well considering the countries coming out of lockdown round the world are slowly opening all those venues you listed. I’m going to say none are going away.  | |||
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"They are gone - along with cinemas, pubs, restaurants and football matches. They were all in the old world not the new world we are now in Well considering the countries coming out of lockdown round the world are slowly opening all those venues you listed. I’m going to say none are going away. "Opening them and them making any money are two entirely separate things | |||
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"They are gone - along with cinemas, pubs, restaurants and football matches. They were all in the old world not the new world we are now in Well considering the countries coming out of lockdown round the world are slowly opening all those venues you listed. I’m going to say none are going away.
Opening them and them making any money are two entirely separate things"Some will close for sure. But some will continue. None of those business types are going away. Perhaps cinemas long term that’s another issue. | |||
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"They are gone - along with cinemas, pubs, restaurants and football matches. They were all in the old world not the new world we are now in Well considering the countries coming out of lockdown round the world are slowly opening all those venues you listed. I’m going to say none are going away.
Opening them and them making any money are two entirely separate things
Some will close for sure. But some will continue. None of those business types are going away. Perhaps cinemas long term that’s another issue. "No - the government have done such an amazing job of convincing so many people that covid-19 will kill them that they will never go out again other then to buy food and clothing | |||
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"They are gone - along with cinemas, pubs, restaurants and football matches. They were all in the old world not the new world we are now in Well considering the countries coming out of lockdown round the world are slowly opening all those venues you listed. I’m going to say none are going away.
Opening them and them making any money are two entirely separate things
Some will close for sure. But some will continue. None of those business types are going away. Perhaps cinemas long term that’s another issue.
No - the government have done such an amazing job of convincing so many people that covid-19 will kill them that they will never go out again other then to buy food and clothing"Looks like a lonely old club night for me then | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see " I admire your optimism but it is misplaced. Economies cannot be switched off for months on end without devestating consequences | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see " Not sure anyone has actually said there will be no more, just that there will be a time when some will change and adapt to this and some sadly for the owners and employees will fold.. It's impacting on the airlines as we speak and the leasure industry amongst others will take a massive hit which could take years to come back from.. | |||
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"I'm sticking with my predicted date of end of May for a relaxing in the regulations. Total guesstimate i think by September we they will looking at things getting back to normal. Stand by for the flak "You forgot the word new in front of the word normal | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see I admire your optimism but it is misplaced. Economies cannot be switched off for months on end without devestating consequences" It’s a shame you truly believe that we are in a new world where all these things shall cease to exist ......no way made. Places shall adapt. If you think you’re never gonna see a restaurant again or go to a footi match then it’s sad. Watch this space  | |||
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"I'm sticking with my predicted date of end of May for a relaxing in the regulations. Total guesstimate i think by September we they will looking at things getting back to normal. Stand by for the flak
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see Not sure anyone has actually said there will be no more, just that there will be a time when some will change and adapt to this and some sadly for the owners and employees will fold.. It's impacting on the airlines as we speak and the leasure industry amongst others will take a massive hit which could take years to come back from.. " Sometime never. Those in favour of this completely excessive lockdown will have to take their share of the blame for its devestating economic consequences | |||
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"I'm sticking with my predicted date of end of May for a relaxing in the regulations. Total guesstimate i think by September we they will looking at things getting back to normal. Stand by for the flak
You forgot the word new in front of the word normal
Maybe, I'm staying optimistic "The time for optimism about the economy passed about 4 weeks ago | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see I admire your optimism but it is misplaced. Economies cannot be switched off for months on end without devestating consequences It’s a shame you truly believe that we are in a new world where all these things shall cease to exist ......no way made. Places shall adapt. If you think you’re never gonna see a restaurant again or go to a footi match then it’s sad. Watch this space "I honestly believe this is a historical event comparable with WW1 and WW2. Society was changed after those events, I believe that CV19 will also lead to very significant societal changes. | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see I admire your optimism but it is misplaced. Economies cannot be switched off for months on end without devestating consequences It’s a shame you truly believe that we are in a new world where all these things shall cease to exist ......no way made. Places shall adapt. If you think you’re never gonna see a restaurant again or go to a footi match then it’s sad. Watch this space
I honestly believe this is a historical event comparable with WW1 and WW2. Society was changed after those events, I believe that CV19 will also lead to very significant societal changes."Some significant changes may happen but this is the modern world ..it will adapt. It will grow again. We are hardly all gonna be staying inside forever with every aspect of society closed. The world will and is going forward. When the restaurants are open we should all go for a meal..the ones that said they never will and the ones that know they will and all have a lovely meal in our masks lol | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see Not sure anyone has actually said there will be no more, just that there will be a time when some will change and adapt to this and some sadly for the owners and employees will fold.. It's impacting on the airlines as we speak and the leasure industry amongst others will take a massive hit which could take years to come back from.. Sometime never. Those in favour of this completely excessive lockdown will have to take their share of the blame for its devestating economic consequences " Equally people like you who wanted a much more lax lockdown or any would have been just as culpable for the increase in deaths as those who took the decision.. Or would you have shrugged your shoulders and blamed the politicians. What level of fatalities in your opinion is acceptable in order to protect jobs..? | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see I admire your optimism but it is misplaced. Economies cannot be switched off for months on end without devestating consequences It’s a shame you truly believe that we are in a new world where all these things shall cease to exist ......no way made. Places shall adapt. If you think you’re never gonna see a restaurant again or go to a footi match then it’s sad. Watch this space
I honestly believe this is a historical event comparable with WW1 and WW2. Society was changed after those events, I believe that CV19 will also lead to very significant societal changes."This is a chance to reset certain ideas that is certainly true. The relative value of different jobs needs reassessing, we need to learn the lessons of what was good and bad about the reactions to the virus and as individuals we will look at life and what we want out of it. Most importantly we need to be optimistic about the future | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see I admire your optimism but it is misplaced. Economies cannot be switched off for months on end without devestating consequences It’s a shame you truly believe that we are in a new world where all these things shall cease to exist ......no way made. Places shall adapt. If you think you’re never gonna see a restaurant again or go to a footi match then it’s sad. Watch this space
I honestly believe this is a historical event comparable with WW1 and WW2. Society was changed after those events, I believe that CV19 will also lead to very significant societal changes.
Some significant changes may happen but this is the modern world ..it will adapt. It will grow again. We are hardly all gonna be staying inside forever with every aspect of society closed. The world will and is going forward. When the restaurants are open we should all go for a meal..the ones that said they never will and the ones that know they will and all have a lovely meal in our masks lol"Yes the world will adapt, I'm not suggesting we will never go outside again but somethings won't be coming back. Not everything is a negative, people have realised that they can do their jobs without commuting. Something like that will have a domino effect. Some businesses like restaurants that operate on very slim margins could be unsustainable in the foreseeable future. Things may have to be restructured. For now, the high street is over, cheap airlines the same, foreign holidays..... | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see I admire your optimism but it is misplaced. Economies cannot be switched off for months on end without devestating consequences It’s a shame you truly believe that we are in a new world where all these things shall cease to exist ......no way made. Places shall adapt. If you think you’re never gonna see a restaurant again or go to a footi match then it’s sad. Watch this space
I honestly believe this is a historical event comparable with WW1 and WW2. Society was changed after those events, I believe that CV19 will also lead to very significant societal changes.
Some significant changes may happen but this is the modern world ..it will adapt. It will grow again. We are hardly all gonna be staying inside forever with every aspect of society closed. The world will and is going forward. When the restaurants are open we should all go for a meal..the ones that said they never will and the ones that know they will and all have a lovely meal in our masks lol
Yes the world will adapt, I'm not suggesting we will never go outside again but somethings won't be coming back. Not everything is a negative, people have realised that they can do their jobs without commuting. Something like that will have a domino effect. Some businesses like restaurants that operate on very slim margins could be unsustainable in the foreseeable future. Things may have to be restructured. For now, the high street is over, cheap airlines the same, foreign holidays....."Yes obviously restructured for a time but the world will move forward. I’m an optimistic person. Plenty of people in the restaurant business etc will be eager to open up when they can and plenty will want to go ...everything may take a bit of time but we will get back. Positive vibes always | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see I admire your optimism but it is misplaced. Economies cannot be switched off for months on end without devestating consequences It’s a shame you truly believe that we are in a new world where all these things shall cease to exist ......no way made. Places shall adapt. If you think you’re never gonna see a restaurant again or go to a footi match then it’s sad. Watch this space
I honestly believe this is a historical event comparable with WW1 and WW2. Society was changed after those events, I believe that CV19 will also lead to very significant societal changes.
Some significant changes may happen but this is the modern world ..it will adapt. It will grow again. We are hardly all gonna be staying inside forever with every aspect of society closed. The world will and is going forward. When the restaurants are open we should all go for a meal..the ones that said they never will and the ones that know they will and all have a lovely meal in our masks lol
Yes the world will adapt, I'm not suggesting we will never go outside again but somethings won't be coming back. Not everything is a negative, people have realised that they can do their jobs without commuting. Something like that will have a domino effect. Some businesses like restaurants that operate on very slim margins could be unsustainable in the foreseeable future. Things may have to be restructured. For now, the high street is over, cheap airlines the same, foreign holidays.....
Yes obviously restructured for a time but the world will move forward. I’m an optimistic person. Plenty of people in the restaurant business etc will be eager to open up when they can and plenty will want to go ...everything may take a bit of time but we will get back. Positive vibes always "Thank goodness for someone with sense - people love drama way too much in my view. | |||
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"They are gone - along with cinemas, pubs, restaurants and football matches. They were all in the old world not the new world we are now in Well considering the countries coming out of lockdown round the world are slowly opening all those venues you listed. I’m going to say none are going away.
Opening them and them making any money are two entirely separate things
Some will close for sure. But some will continue. None of those business types are going away. Perhaps cinemas long term that’s another issue.
No - the government have done such an amazing job of convincing so many people that covid-19 will kill them that they will never go out again other then to buy food and clothing"Humans have survived worse things and this 'new world' you're talking about? Enjoy living there with the other doomsayers while the rest of us get our lives back. | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see I admire your optimism but it is misplaced. Economies cannot be switched off for months on end without devestating consequences It’s a shame you truly believe that we are in a new world where all these things shall cease to exist ......no way made. Places shall adapt. If you think you’re never gonna see a restaurant again or go to a footi match then it’s sad. Watch this space
I honestly believe this is a historical event comparable with WW1 and WW2. Society was changed after those events, I believe that CV19 will also lead to very significant societal changes.
Some significant changes may happen but this is the modern world ..it will adapt. It will grow again. We are hardly all gonna be staying inside forever with every aspect of society closed. The world will and is going forward. When the restaurants are open we should all go for a meal..the ones that said they never will and the ones that know they will and all have a lovely meal in our masks lol
Yes the world will adapt, I'm not suggesting we will never go outside again but somethings won't be coming back. Not everything is a negative, people have realised that they can do their jobs without commuting. Something like that will have a domino effect. Some businesses like restaurants that operate on very slim margins could be unsustainable in the foreseeable future. Things may have to be restructured. For now, the high street is over, cheap airlines the same, foreign holidays.....
Yes obviously restructured for a time but the world will move forward. I’m an optimistic person. Plenty of people in the restaurant business etc will be eager to open up when they can and plenty will want to go ...everything may take a bit of time but we will get back. Positive vibes always
Thank goodness for someone with sense - people love drama way too much in my view. "Haha no sense just logic. It’s 2020 not dickens days. Once the government have a handle on this situation with the help of the scientists and get testing everyone and start a plan of forward action then we shall move forward | |||
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"They are gone - along with cinemas, pubs, restaurants and football matches. They were all in the old world not the new world we are now in Well considering the countries coming out of lockdown round the world are slowly opening all those venues you listed. I’m going to say none are going away.
Opening them and them making any money are two entirely separate things
Some will close for sure. But some will continue. None of those business types are going away. Perhaps cinemas long term that’s another issue.
No - the government have done such an amazing job of convincing so many people that covid-19 will kill them that they will never go out again other then to buy food and clothing
Humans have survived worse things and this 'new world' you're talking about? Enjoy living there with the other doomsayers while the rest of us get our lives back."I’m not going to that new world no I’m staying in the normal world with you girl and waiting for it to re open | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see Not sure anyone has actually said there will be no more, just that there will be a time when some will change and adapt to this and some sadly for the owners and employees will fold.. It's impacting on the airlines as we speak and the leasure industry amongst others will take a massive hit which could take years to come back from.. Sometime never. Those in favour of this completely excessive lockdown will have to take their share of the blame for its devestating economic consequences Equally people like you who wanted a much more lax lockdown or any would have been just as culpable for the increase in deaths as those who took the decision.. Or would you have shrugged your shoulders and blamed the politicians. What level of fatalities in your opinion is acceptable in order to protect jobs..? " There is no reason to think locking down will have saved any lives compared to crashing the worlds economies | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see Not sure anyone has actually said there will be no more, just that there will be a time when some will change and adapt to this and some sadly for the owners and employees will fold.. It's impacting on the airlines as we speak and the leasure industry amongst others will take a massive hit which could take years to come back from.. Sometime never. Those in favour of this completely excessive lockdown will have to take their share of the blame for its devestating economic consequences Equally people like you who wanted a much more lax lockdown or any would have been just as culpable for the increase in deaths as those who took the decision.. Or would you have shrugged your shoulders and blamed the politicians. What level of fatalities in your opinion is acceptable in order to protect jobs..? There is no reason to think locking down will have saved any lives compared to crashing the worlds economies" Maybe you should have offered your expertise to the scientists advising the government? In fact why stop there.. | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see I admire your optimism but it is misplaced. Economies cannot be switched off for months on end without devestating consequences It’s a shame you truly believe that we are in a new world where all these things shall cease to exist ......no way made. Places shall adapt. If you think you’re never gonna see a restaurant again or go to a footi match then it’s sad. Watch this space
I honestly believe this is a historical event comparable with WW1 and WW2. Society was changed after those events, I believe that CV19 will also lead to very significant societal changes.
Some significant changes may happen but this is the modern world ..it will adapt. It will grow again. We are hardly all gonna be staying inside forever with every aspect of society closed. The world will and is going forward. When the restaurants are open we should all go for a meal..the ones that said they never will and the ones that know they will and all have a lovely meal in our masks lol
Yes the world will adapt, I'm not suggesting we will never go outside again but somethings won't be coming back. Not everything is a negative, people have realised that they can do their jobs without commuting. Something like that will have a domino effect. Some businesses like restaurants that operate on very slim margins could be unsustainable in the foreseeable future. Things may have to be restructured. For now, the high street is over, cheap airlines the same, foreign holidays.....
Yes obviously restructured for a time but the world will move forward. I’m an optimistic person. Plenty of people in the restaurant business etc will be eager to open up when they can and plenty will want to go ...everything may take a bit of time but we will get back. Positive vibes always
Thank goodness for someone with sense - people love drama way too much in my view.
Haha no sense just logic. It’s 2020 not dickens days. Once the government have a handle on this situation with the help of the scientists and get testing everyone and start a plan of forward action then we shall move forward "The fastest time for a vaccine to be created, approved and produced to date is 4 years. Thats the end goal, until then CV19 is going to be something that will affect our lives. Once a virus is approved for production its going have to be manufactured on a global scale. | |||
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"People really thinking this is a new world with no pubs restaurants etc...omg that’s made me laugh. It’s covid virus ...not the end of the world. The world will move on slowly and rebuild and adapt. If you believe no more restaurants pubs cinemas football matches then that to me is bonkers. Watch n see I admire your optimism but it is misplaced. Economies cannot be switched off for months on end without devestating consequences It’s a shame you truly believe that we are in a new world where all these things shall cease to exist ......no way made. Places shall adapt. If you think you’re never gonna see a restaurant again or go to a footi match then it’s sad. Watch this space
I honestly believe this is a historical event comparable with WW1 and WW2. Society was changed after those events, I believe that CV19 will also lead to very significant societal changes.
Some significant changes may happen but this is the modern world ..it will adapt. It will grow again. We are hardly all gonna be staying inside forever with every aspect of society closed. The world will and is going forward. When the restaurants are open we should all go for a meal..the ones that said they never will and the ones that know they will and all have a lovely meal in our masks lol
Yes the world will adapt, I'm not suggesting we will never go outside again but somethings won't be coming back. Not everything is a negative, people have realised that they can do their jobs without commuting. Something like that will have a domino effect. Some businesses like restaurants that operate on very slim margins could be unsustainable in the foreseeable future. Things may have to be restructured. For now, the high street is over, cheap airlines the same, foreign holidays....."What things won't be coming back? | |||
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"Haha no sense just logic. It’s 2020 not dickens days. Once the government have a handle on this situation with the help of the scientists and get testing everyone and start a plan of forward action then we shall move forward " I believe that through a gradual course off time businesses such as swingers clubs etc will eventually open up down the line but will have suffered heavy losses profits wise. Mind you there are furlough payments and loans but realistically not everyone will come out okay some will be forced sadly to close down as it is reality. A lot off people are just generally frightened because circumstances like we are currently experiencing and the uncertainty off it are leaving them in the dark, all you can hope for really is optimism that it will eventually get better. | |||
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"Haha no sense just logic. It’s 2020 not dickens days. Once the government have a handle on this situation with the help of the scientists and get testing everyone and start a plan of forward action then we shall move forward I believe that through a gradual course off time businesses such as swingers clubs etc will eventually open up down the line but will have suffered heavy losses profits wise. Mind you there are furlough payments and loans but realistically not everyone will come out okay some will be forced sadly to close down as it is reality. A lot off people are just generally frightened because circumstances like we are currently experiencing and the uncertainty off it are leaving them in the dark, all you can hope for really is optimism that it will eventually get better." So true. Places will open. Some may not sadly but eventually we will all live a normal life as we once did. I just hate that people are so frightened and think there’s no normal future. There is and there will be. Anyhow spreading joy to all | |||
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"If you go to a club you have a chance of catching a sdi now you have the chance of catching covid19, if you arent in the vulnerable category I dont see what the problem is, by the time they and pubs, cinemas etc are allowed to open a large proportion of people will have had it so little risk imvho. If you live with or visit someone who is vulnerable then dont go or stay away for 14 days at least after going anywhere you may catch it. The virus cant be stopped until we all have had it or been vaccinated " Exactly. Lockdown wasn't about prevention it was about delaying the spread. The government need to adequately resource and fund the NHS as this isn't going away. We will probably find our selves in this situation again. | |||
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"We cant see social distancing rules easing til june time then it will be for people to start and return to manufacturing jobs so public transport and factories...if theres a sudden big spike it will probably stay at this for some time then ease again to allow some leisure venues to open, possibly gyms or restaurants...it will probably be a progressive opening and easing of the lockdown and be based on capacity..ie upto 50 people..upto 100 200 500 etc..so big clubs and sports events will certainly be the last ." June ?! Are you serious? Social distancing will be with us until and beyond a vaccine so reckon on 18-24 months . The airlines are reckoning on a lot longer so that gives you an idea of the future . Where do you think this virus is going? It's not going anywhere unfortunately | |||
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"They are gone - along with cinemas, pubs, restaurants and football matches. They were all in the old world not the new world we are now in" You are absolutely right. Sadly, they are gone , maybe not forever but for a good few years | |||
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"If you go to a club you have a chance of catching a sdi now you have the chance of catching covid19, if you arent in the vulnerable category I dont see what the problem is, by the time they and pubs, cinemas etc are allowed to open a large proportion of people will have had it so little risk imvho. If you live with or visit someone who is vulnerable then dont go or stay away for 14 days at least after going anywhere you may catch it. The virus cant be stopped until we all have had it or been vaccinated Exactly. Lockdown wasn't about prevention it was about delaying the spread. The government need to adequately resource and fund the NHS as this isn't going away. We will probably find our selves in this situation again. " We certainly will be here again, this is far from over. Lockdown is a single tool which is limited in effectiveness . Testing and tracing are going to have to exponentially stepped up. | |||
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"They are gone - along with cinemas, pubs, restaurants and football matches. They were all in the old world not the new world we are now in" why will they be gone. Countries that are ahead of us are now opening many such places. | |||
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"We cant see social distancing rules easing til june time then it will be for people to start and return to manufacturing jobs so public transport and factories...if theres a sudden big spike it will probably stay at this for some time then ease again to allow some leisure venues to open, possibly gyms or restaurants...it will probably be a progressive opening and easing of the lockdown and be based on capacity..ie upto 50 people..upto 100 200 500 etc..so big clubs and sports events will certainly be the last . June ?! Are you serious? Social distancing will be with us until and beyond a vaccine so reckon on 18-24 months . The airlines are reckoning on a lot longer so that gives you an idea of the future . Where do you think this virus is going? It's not going anywhere unfortunately " All countries that are in front of us in the cycle ie they had earlier infections are gradually removing restrictions as we will from the end of this week or the next. Large gatherings will not happen for a while longer, when we have a reliable test for past infection then we will see the true rate of spread. | |||
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" So true. Places will open. Some may not sadly but eventually we will all live a normal life as we once did. I just hate that people are so frightened and think there’s no normal future. There is and there will be. Anyhow spreading joy to all " people are afraid mainly because off the high fatality and casualty rate, this whole pandemic has caused a humongous domino effect not to mention its brought nations world wide to a stand still. Earlier on before lockdown and spreading off it people were dismissing it as the flu but now have come to realise in less then 2 months with such a high death rate that it's more serious. Only silver linings are that continuous efforts are being made to help people overcome and recover from the virus but once things seem to have a hand on another obstacle appears so it's an up hill battle.... | |||
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" So true. Places will open. Some may not sadly but eventually we will all live a normal life as we once did. I just hate that people are so frightened and think there’s no normal future. There is and there will be. Anyhow spreading joy to all people are afraid mainly because off the high fatality and casualty rate, this whole pandemic has caused a humongous domino effect not to mention its brought nations world wide to a stand still. Earlier on before lockdown and spreading off it people were dismissing it as the flu but now have come to realise in less then 2 months with such a high death rate that it's more serious. Only silver linings are that continuous efforts are being made to help people overcome and recover from the virus but once things seem to have a hand on another obstacle appears so it's an up hill battle...." There won't be an accurate fatality rate until much later because there isn't any way to know how many people have actually had it yet. The fatality rate is likely to be much lower than what is being shown at the moment as many people in the community have had it but not needed treatment. | |||
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"Swingers Clubs are finished that’s a given although swinging will go on in houses and hotels . The real worry is many Pubs and Restaurants were already on their knees even before Covid so those have no chance of coming back from it . In my own case the only reason I avoid most Pubs is nothing to do with the price of beer compared to supermarkets it’s simply they are so quiet there isn’t any atmosphere to be had in them and they are going to be a lot quieter when they open up as half the population has been turned into neurotics by watching the 5pm briefings and listening to the negative press .. Why would someone go to a Pub and drink in a corner without any opportunity to chat or at least people watch you may as well drink at home and watch Netflix." Most people are happy to wait for a vaccine which means swingers clubs, restaurants and pubs are fucked | |||
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"They are gone - along with cinemas, pubs, restaurants and football matches. They were all in the old world not the new world we are now in why will they be gone. Countries that are ahead of us are now opening many such places. " Most people have been too psychology scared by the government and msm to ever go to them until there is a vaccine by which time they will all be gone | |||
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"How long do you think it will take for the clubs to return to normal numbers? It might be incredibly hard to keep going " Who knows. I'm dreading taking the train to work: I work in central London. My office building is five floors and we can comfortably social distance. They're drawing up plans to stagger our return to work with people only being in the office a couple of hours a day two days a week from July. This couldn't work in clubs and I can't imagine a lot of couples with family at home wanting to take unnecessary chances...but then the things I've read on here over the years...I could be way off base. | |||
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"I think the general consensus with this thread is that restaurants, bars and cinemas will return but not as we remember them. Social distancing could easily be around this time next year on some shape or form. For example if a restaurant that usually seats 100 people is then enforced to seat only 50 people their turnover has just been cut in half. Do they cut their staff numbers in half to follow suit? Probably.. The same restaurant is still spending the same on overheads so to keep the business profitable the menu price will have to go up. The issue with covid virus' is alot of people are susceptible to catching it a second time. Doesn't mean you will suffer the second time but you will be a carrier. Also covids mutate at terrifying rates, that's why creating a vaccine will be so difficult. So yes, I hope to get back to a normal life soon but what will be the new normal? " There’s no evidence you can catch it twice. | |||
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"I think the general consensus with this thread is that restaurants, bars and cinemas will return but not as we remember them. Social distancing could easily be around this time next year on some shape or form. For example if a restaurant that usually seats 100 people is then enforced to seat only 50 people their turnover has just been cut in half. Do they cut their staff numbers in half to follow suit? Probably.. The same restaurant is still spending the same on overheads so to keep the business profitable the menu price will have to go up. The issue with covid virus' is alot of people are susceptible to catching it a second time. Doesn't mean you will suffer the second time but you will be a carrier. Also covids mutate at terrifying rates, that's why creating a vaccine will be so difficult. So yes, I hope to get back to a normal life soon but what will be the new normal? There’s no evidence you can catch it twice. " Yet.. Which in some ways is part of the wariness for some perhaps.. There's a lot we don't yet but hopefully will know.. | |||
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"I think the general consensus with this thread is that restaurants, bars and cinemas will return but not as we remember them. Social distancing could easily be around this time next year on some shape or form. For example if a restaurant that usually seats 100 people is then enforced to seat only 50 people their turnover has just been cut in half. Do they cut their staff numbers in half to follow suit? Probably.. The same restaurant is still spending the same on overheads so to keep the business profitable the menu price will have to go up. The issue with covid virus' is alot of people are susceptible to catching it a second time. Doesn't mean you will suffer the second time but you will be a carrier. Also covids mutate at terrifying rates, that's why creating a vaccine will be so difficult. So yes, I hope to get back to a normal life soon but what will be the new normal? There’s no evidence you can catch it twice. Yet.. Which in some ways is part of the wariness for some perhaps.. There's a lot we don't yet but hopefully will know.. " See previous pandemics | |||
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"I think the general consensus with this thread is that restaurants, bars and cinemas will return but not as we remember them. Social distancing could easily be around this time next year on some shape or form. For example if a restaurant that usually seats 100 people is then enforced to seat only 50 people their turnover has just been cut in half. Do they cut their staff numbers in half to follow suit? Probably.. The same restaurant is still spending the same on overheads so to keep the business profitable the menu price will have to go up. The issue with covid virus' is alot of people are susceptible to catching it a second time. Doesn't mean you will suffer the second time but you will be a carrier. Also covids mutate at terrifying rates, that's why creating a vaccine will be so difficult. So yes, I hope to get back to a normal life soon but what will be the new normal? There’s no evidence you can catch it twice. " I was reading a really interesting article a couple of weeks ago. It was discussing the fact that there have been over 100 cases in South Korea where people have been 're-infected'. One of my friends have experienced this as she was readmitted to hospital after being given the all clear 2 weeks previously. The WHO are working with scientists in South Korea as the thinking is that there isn't actually a second infection, but actually a re-activation of the original virus. I suppose this is similar to HPV where there is a primary infection with a possibilities of secondaries. This is still a theory but there's no getting away from the fact that there are some people who have had Covid 'twice' | |||
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"I think the general consensus with this thread is that restaurants, bars and cinemas will return but not as we remember them. Social distancing could easily be around this time next year on some shape or form. For example if a restaurant that usually seats 100 people is then enforced to seat only 50 people their turnover has just been cut in half. Do they cut their staff numbers in half to follow suit? Probably.. The same restaurant is still spending the same on overheads so to keep the business profitable the menu price will have to go up. The issue with covid virus' is alot of people are susceptible to catching it a second time. Doesn't mean you will suffer the second time but you will be a carrier. Also covids mutate at terrifying rates, that's why creating a vaccine will be so difficult. So yes, I hope to get back to a normal life soon but what will be the new normal? There’s no evidence you can catch it twice. I was reading a really interesting article a couple of weeks ago. It was discussing the fact that there have been over 100 cases in South Korea where people have been 're-infected'. One of my friends have experienced this as she was readmitted to hospital after being given the all clear 2 weeks previously. The WHO are working with scientists in South Korea as the thinking is that there isn't actually a second infection, but actually a re-activation of the original virus. I suppose this is similar to HPV where there is a primary infection with a possibilities of secondaries. This is still a theory but there's no getting away from the fact that there are some people who have had Covid 'twice' " There’s plenty of getting away from it - they’re infected once and experience different waves of the same infection. | |||
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"Where do people get these timescales from for a vaccine? I’ve seen 4 years in this thread. Sorry to quote this again, but see link below https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957–58_influenza_pandemic This was a novel virus just the same. Came from China. Spread throughout the world. First case “late 1956”, confirmed cases “February 1957”, vaccine “October 1957”. Eight months from confirmed cases to vaccine. Dismiss if you like, but that’s how it was. " I'm not going to dismiss you but I will respond, That pandemic was caused by an new strain of influenza not a novel virus. Making a vaccine for a new flu strain is very different from making a vaccine for something completely new like COVID-19. Doctors and scientists first developed viable flu vaccines in the 1940s, so they were not starting from scratch when they went to work on the 1957 flu vaccine. The figure of 4 years is with regard to mumps, first isolated in 1945, first vaccine 1948. My source for this is the NY Times podcast and accompanying article, April 20. Remember Ebola? First identified 1976, first vaccine to be approved for use under a compassionate protocol, Dec 2019. | |||
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"I think the general consensus with this thread is that restaurants, bars and cinemas will return but not as we remember them. Social distancing could easily be around this time next year on some shape or form. For example if a restaurant that usually seats 100 people is then enforced to seat only 50 people their turnover has just been cut in half. Do they cut their staff numbers in half to follow suit? Probably.. The same restaurant is still spending the same on overheads so to keep the business profitable the menu price will have to go up. The issue with covid virus' is alot of people are susceptible to catching it a second time. Doesn't mean you will suffer the second time but you will be a carrier. Also covids mutate at terrifying rates, that's why creating a vaccine will be so difficult. So yes, I hope to get back to a normal life soon but what will be the new normal? There’s no evidence you can catch it twice. Yet.. Which in some ways is part of the wariness for some perhaps.. There's a lot we don't yet but hopefully will know.. See previous pandemics " There's been reports of people reinfected in South East Asia, pretty sure I saw it on nytimes? | |||
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"Where do people get these timescales from for a vaccine? I’ve seen 4 years in this thread. Sorry to quote this again, but see link below https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957–58_influenza_pandemic This was a novel virus just the same. Came from China. Spread throughout the world. First case “late 1956”, confirmed cases “February 1957”, vaccine “October 1957”. Eight months from confirmed cases to vaccine. Dismiss if you like, but that’s how it was. I'm not going to dismiss you but I will respond, That pandemic was caused by an new strain of influenza not a novel virus. Making a vaccine for a new flu strain is very different from making a vaccine for something completely new like COVID-19. Doctors and scientists first developed viable flu vaccines in the 1940s, so they were not starting from scratch when they went to work on the 1957 flu vaccine. The figure of 4 years is with regard to mumps, first isolated in 1945, first vaccine 1948. My source for this is the NY Times podcast and accompanying article, April 20. Remember Ebola? First identified 1976, first vaccine to be approved for use under a compassionate protocol, Dec 2019." It was a novel strain of the virus. As is COVID-19. Coronavirus isn’t new - it’s been around since 1966. | |||
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"I think the general consensus with this thread is that restaurants, bars and cinemas will return but not as we remember them. Social distancing could easily be around this time next year on some shape or form. For example if a restaurant that usually seats 100 people is then enforced to seat only 50 people their turnover has just been cut in half. Do they cut their staff numbers in half to follow suit? Probably.. The same restaurant is still spending the same on overheads so to keep the business profitable the menu price will have to go up. The issue with covid virus' is alot of people are susceptible to catching it a second time. Doesn't mean you will suffer the second time but you will be a carrier. Also covids mutate at terrifying rates, that's why creating a vaccine will be so difficult. So yes, I hope to get back to a normal life soon but what will be the new normal? There’s no evidence you can catch it twice. Yet.. Which in some ways is part of the wariness for some perhaps.. There's a lot we don't yet but hopefully will know.. See previous pandemics There's been reports of people reinfected in South East Asia, pretty sure I saw it on nytimes? " Reports were disproved. | |||
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"I think the general consensus with this thread is that restaurants, bars and cinemas will return but not as we remember them. Social distancing could easily be around this time next year on some shape or form. For example if a restaurant that usually seats 100 people is then enforced to seat only 50 people their turnover has just been cut in half. Do they cut their staff numbers in half to follow suit? Probably.. The same restaurant is still spending the same on overheads so to keep the business profitable the menu price will have to go up. The issue with covid virus' is alot of people are susceptible to catching it a second time. Doesn't mean you will suffer the second time but you will be a carrier. Also covids mutate at terrifying rates, that's why creating a vaccine will be so difficult. So yes, I hope to get back to a normal life soon but what will be the new normal? There’s no evidence you can catch it twice. Yet.. Which in some ways is part of the wariness for some perhaps.. There's a lot we don't yet but hopefully will know.. See previous pandemics There's been reports of people reinfected in South East Asia, pretty sure I saw it on nytimes? Reports were disproved. " OK.. Fact is until the science is saying the same thing on several aspects of this virus some people will be wary.. Easy ish to have a lockdown but I think it will prove harder to lift.. | |||
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"I think the general consensus with this thread is that restaurants, bars and cinemas will return but not as we remember them. Social distancing could easily be around this time next year on some shape or form. For example if a restaurant that usually seats 100 people is then enforced to seat only 50 people their turnover has just been cut in half. Do they cut their staff numbers in half to follow suit? Probably.. The same restaurant is still spending the same on overheads so to keep the business profitable the menu price will have to go up. The issue with covid virus' is alot of people are susceptible to catching it a second time. Doesn't mean you will suffer the second time but you will be a carrier. Also covids mutate at terrifying rates, that's why creating a vaccine will be so difficult. So yes, I hope to get back to a normal life soon but what will be the new normal? There’s no evidence you can catch it twice. Yet.. Which in some ways is part of the wariness for some perhaps.. There's a lot we don't yet but hopefully will know.. See previous pandemics There's been reports of people reinfected in South East Asia, pretty sure I saw it on nytimes? Reports were disproved. OK.. Fact is until the science is saying the same thing on several aspects of this virus some people will be wary.. Easy ish to have a lockdown but I think it will prove harder to lift.." Ok - it is what it is | |||
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"A long time before they open and even longer before some of us feel safe enough to go to them. Going to Tesco is frightening enough lol" We've never shagged at Tescos.... | |||
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"Where do people get these timescales from for a vaccine? I’ve seen 4 years in this thread. Sorry to quote this again, but see link below https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957–58_influenza_pandemic This was a novel virus just the same. Came from China. Spread throughout the world. First case “late 1956”, confirmed cases “February 1957”, vaccine “October 1957”. Eight months from confirmed cases to vaccine. Dismiss if you like, but that’s how it was. I'm not going to dismiss you but I will respond, That pandemic was caused by an new strain of influenza not a novel virus. Making a vaccine for a new flu strain is very different from making a vaccine for something completely new like COVID-19. Doctors and scientists first developed viable flu vaccines in the 1940s, so they were not starting from scratch when they went to work on the 1957 flu vaccine. The figure of 4 years is with regard to mumps, first isolated in 1945, first vaccine 1948. My source for this is the NY Times podcast and accompanying article, April 20. Remember Ebola? First identified 1976, first vaccine to be approved for use under a compassionate protocol, Dec 2019. It was a novel strain of the virus. As is COVID-19. Coronavirus isn’t new - it’s been around since 1966. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957%E2%80%9358_influenza_pandemic. "The strain of virus that caused the pandemic, influenza A virus subtype H2N2, was a recombination of avian influenza (probably from geese) and human influenza viruses.[1][2] As it was a novel strain of the virus, there was minimal immunity in the population." https://www.history.com/news/1957-flu-pandemic-vaccine-hilleman | |||
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"I think the general consensus with this thread is that restaurants, bars and cinemas will return but not as we remember them. Social distancing could easily be around this time next year on some shape or form. For example if a restaurant that usually seats 100 people is then enforced to seat only 50 people their turnover has just been cut in half. Do they cut their staff numbers in half to follow suit? Probably.. The same restaurant is still spending the same on overheads so to keep the business profitable the menu price will have to go up. The issue with covid virus' is alot of people are susceptible to catching it a second time. Doesn't mean you will suffer the second time but you will be a carrier. Also covids mutate at terrifying rates, that's why creating a vaccine will be so difficult. So yes, I hope to get back to a normal life soon but what will be the new normal? There’s no evidence you can catch it twice. Yet.. Which in some ways is part of the wariness for some perhaps.. There's a lot we don't yet but hopefully will know.. See previous pandemics There's been reports of people reinfected in South East Asia, pretty sure I saw it on nytimes? Reports were disproved. OK.. Fact is until the science is saying the same thing on several aspects of this virus some people will be wary.. Easy ish to have a lockdown but I think it will prove harder to lift.. Ok - it is what it is " The issue is people can incubate the virus and pass it on again and again and again. And as of Friday the WHO couldn't confirm or deny that you can't be infected as per their daily updates Young children can build up high immunity to it but again don't know how long the anti bodies will last. Hence why Boris wanted to impose herd immunity. But the WHO advice on herd immunity was there would be 500,000 dead By end of April of Boris imposed it. So to say "it is what it is" couldn't be further than the truth.. No one knows what will happen unfortunately. But I do hope you are right. | |||
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"I think the general consensus with this thread is that restaurants, bars and cinemas will return but not as we remember them. Social distancing could easily be around this time next year on some shape or form. For example if a restaurant that usually seats 100 people is then enforced to seat only 50 people their turnover has just been cut in half. Do they cut their staff numbers in half to follow suit? Probably.. The same restaurant is still spending the same on overheads so to keep the business profitable the menu price will have to go up. The issue with covid virus' is alot of people are susceptible to catching it a second time. Doesn't mean you will suffer the second time but you will be a carrier. Also covids mutate at terrifying rates, that's why creating a vaccine will be so difficult. So yes, I hope to get back to a normal life soon but what will be the new normal? There’s no evidence you can catch it twice. " I believe they have pretty much proven you cant now | |||
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"How long do you think it will take for the clubs to return to normal numbers? It might be incredibly hard to keep going " We have been almost exclusively club swingers for over 10 years together, and I (Mr) for many years before that, so the club situation is very close to our hearts. Where this will all end for the clubs really is anybody's guess, but I don't see it ending well for many. I think it is almost certain that some will close their doors forever, as has already happened to at least one club we know in Germany. However on a brighter note some will survive and re-open, but this is where it could get even more difficult for those that do. Just from the comments on this thread, and many others on here in the last few weeks. It is pretty certain that overall numbers will be well down from the pre CV19 days. However it may not be as bad as that for individual clubs. If for example a percentage of the clubs don't survive and then the same percentage of the total customers stay away, then for the clubs that do survive it could possibly be an as you were situation. A bit like butter on the knife. Spread it on one piece of bread and it is nice and thick, but the more slices you have to spread it over the thinner it gets. We know some areas in both Germany and Spain (and I'm sure in the UK as well) where there were really too many clubs before the close down, and one or two disappearing (while bad for the owners) wouldn't be too bad overall. We will just have to wait and see. | |||
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"Where do people get these timescales from for a vaccine? I’ve seen 4 years in this thread. Sorry to quote this again, but see link below https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957–58_influenza_pandemic This was a novel virus just the same. Came from China. Spread throughout the world. First case “late 1956”, confirmed cases “February 1957”, vaccine “October 1957”. Eight months from confirmed cases to vaccine. Dismiss if you like, but that’s how it was. I'm not going to dismiss you but I will respond, That pandemic was caused by an new strain of influenza not a novel virus. Making a vaccine for a new flu strain is very different from making a vaccine for something completely new like COVID-19. Doctors and scientists first developed viable flu vaccines in the 1940s, so they were not starting from scratch when they went to work on the 1957 flu vaccine. The figure of 4 years is with regard to mumps, first isolated in 1945, first vaccine 1948. My source for this is the NY Times podcast and accompanying article, April 20. Remember Ebola? First identified 1976, first vaccine to be approved for use under a compassionate protocol, Dec 2019." While not arguing your facts science is very different in 2020 than it was in the 1940's I believe they make use of computers to "design" vaccines now and simulate their effects also Ebola was far more deadly and there was a lot of issues with the vaccine causing deaths iirc, vivid is a very mild infection in the fit and healthy, it would appear that most people who have it dont get any symptoms at all so its possible a vaccine will be quicker and safer than the Ebola one. That said I believe that it wont be needed except for those in the vulnerable group as most will have caught it by the time the vaccine is available | |||
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"If you go to a club you have a chance of catching a sdi now you have the chance of catching covid19, if you arent in the vulnerable category I dont see what the problem is, by the time they and pubs, cinemas etc are allowed to open a large proportion of people will have had it so little risk imvho. If you live with or visit someone who is vulnerable then dont go or stay away for 14 days at least after going anywhere you may catch it. The virus cant be stopped until we all have had it or been vaccinated " 100% agree | |||
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"A long time before they open and even longer before some of us feel safe enough to go to them. Going to Tesco is frightening enough lol We've never shagged at Tescos...." The disabled toilet at Safeway used to have hapy memories for me before the store became Sainsburys... Mr Icebreaker | |||
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