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"If he has proof then he owes it to the worlds population to make it public I did read he is not saying it was man made or purposely leaked China aren't helping by not allowing an independent investigation " True but his comment on not being able to control it or didn't want to control it is the most controversial | |||
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"President Trump has claimed in his latest press briefing that he has seen evidence that the virus started in a laboratory in Wuhan and that the Chinese government either couldn't or didn't want to contain it. This goes against most of the scientific community that suggests that the outbreak occurred naturally. Does he have actual evidence or is this an attempt to stir up anger against China and increase his ratings with the US voters? https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-trump-says-covid-19-virus-came-from-wuhan-lab-but-he-wont-reveal-evidence-11981445 " To be fair to the guy he never said in that interview that it was man made. The evidence is that it is natural. He was saying that it escaped from the lab due to poor procedures. His intelligence staff however cannot confirm that. He is a complete imbecile and is playing the political game in an election year | |||
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"President Trump has claimed in his latest press briefing that he has seen evidence that the virus started in a laboratory in Wuhan and that the Chinese government either couldn't or didn't want to contain it. This goes against most of the scientific community that suggests that the outbreak occurred naturally. Does he have actual evidence or is this an attempt to stir up anger against China and increase his ratings with the US voters? https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-trump-says-covid-19-virus-came-from-wuhan-lab-but-he-wont-reveal-evidence-11981445 To be fair to the guy he never said in that interview that it was man made. The evidence is that it is natural. He was saying that it escaped from the lab due to poor procedures. His intelligence staff however cannot confirm that. He is a complete imbecile and is playing the political game in an election year" His comment that the Chinese government couldn't control it or didn't want to control it is the controversial point | |||
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"Great, now his dipshit followers will be attacking people who look vaguely Chinese. Give it a minute, somebody will be on here defending the bloke." This.. Complete moron who will put innocent peoples lives at risk from some who are very ignorant and scared, he will then backtrack and say he never said what he suggested was true so not his fault but the media outlets.. Losing it even further as the virus kills yet more and all he cares about is himself.. | |||
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"Great, now his dipshit followers will be attacking people who look vaguely Chinese. Give it a minute, somebody will be on here defending the bloke. This.. Complete moron who will put innocent peoples lives at risk from some who are very ignorant and scared, he will then backtrack and say he never said what he suggested was true so not his fault but the media outlets.. Losing it even further as the virus kills yet more and all he cares about is himself.. " Someone should tell him that when people die they can't vote for him anymore. | |||
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying " Not sure if this is the same person and haven't read the report yet,but have heard this too. This person worked at the lab, he tried to contact some work colleagues and they were all dead  | |||
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying " No evidence that he actually said this https://fullfact.org/online/tasuku-honjo-coronavirus/ | |||
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying " Fake news. Sad. | |||
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying No evidence that he actually said this https://fullfact.org/online/tasuku-honjo-coronavirus/" , Thanks, I'll check that out later  | |||
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying " No.. He released a statement two days ago to say that the claims made are false.. Look on fact check.. | |||
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying No evidence that he actually said this https://fullfact.org/online/tasuku-honjo-coronavirus/" Got in before me..
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying Fake news. Sad. " This highlights why we are in such a mess. Facebook has a lot to answer for, the internet in general really | |||
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying No evidence that he actually said this https://fullfact.org/online/tasuku-honjo-coronavirus/, Thanks, I'll check that out later "Im on it now love to investigate...cheers | |||
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying No.. He released a statement two days ago to say that the claims made are false.. Look on fact check.. " | |||
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"I have friends working in China and the Chinese government are telling their citizens that it was the USA and the UK that started this . Who knows what to believe " Haha | |||
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"I have friends working in China and the Chinese government are telling their citizens that it was the USA and the UK that started this . Who knows what to believe " Chinese government/CCP probably the only ones I'd beleive less than Trump.... but both seem to agree NOT man-made. | |||
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"President Trump has claimed in his latest press briefing that he has seen evidence that the virus started in a laboratory in Wuhan and that the Chinese government either couldn't or didn't want to contain it. This goes against most of the scientific community that suggests that the outbreak occurred naturally. Does he have actual evidence or is this an attempt to stir up anger against China and increase his ratings with the US voters? https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-trump-says-covid-19-virus-came-from-wuhan-lab-but-he-wont-reveal-evidence-11981445 " interesting he should say that.. because even his own dept of national intelligence have said there is no indication or reason it is to believe this was man-made...... the more they push it, the less they hope people will not look at their inept response but heck... its a right wing conspiracy theory... and he is going to start to try to tie this to china, and china to joe biden!!! its the most transparent long range play of all time! | |||
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"The virologists I'm following are seeing more and more evidence of a natural jump. Personally I'll trust Trump on his areas of expertise and virologists on theirs. " Trump's area of expertise. Golf? | |||
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"The virologists I'm following are seeing more and more evidence of a natural jump. Personally I'll trust Trump on his areas of expertise and virologists on theirs. Trump's area of expertise. Golf?" I deliberately didn't elaborate  | |||
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"The virologists I'm following are seeing more and more evidence of a natural jump. Personally I'll trust Trump on his areas of expertise and virologists on theirs. Trump's area of expertise. Golf?" He's better than Kim Jong un though..
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"Does he have actual evidence or is this an attempt to stir up anger against China and increase his ratings with the US voters?" No. He doesn't have actual evidence. If he did, he would publish it, even at the cost of revealing its source. Yes. He is stirring up anger - but only within his core support, who are so fucking stupid they believe in him no matter what. They are a cult; like the Nazis were with Hitler. The real problem is that not one single person in America has the guts to call him out for the stupid, ignorant fuckwit he is, face to face, on live television. The Emperor has no clothes. Where the fuck is the little boy when you need him? | |||
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"Does he have actual evidence or is this an attempt to stir up anger against China and increase his ratings with the US voters? No. He doesn't have actual evidence. If he did, he would publish it, even at the cost of revealing its source. Yes. He is stirring up anger - but only within his core support, who are so fucking stupid they believe in him no matter what. They are a cult; like the Nazis were with Hitler. The real problem is that not one single person in America has the guts to call him out for the stupid, ignorant fuckwit he is, face to face, on live television. The Emperor has no clothes. Where the fuck is the little boy when you need him?" he is all over the shop.... yesterday in his briefing he tried to blame the "obama administration" for leaving him bad and broken tests.... until it was points out by jim acosta of CNN in the very next question that the virus didn't exist then....... 
the man is scrambling.... he is itching for a fight somewhere to deflect whats going on... when he couldn't get that with the state govenors, he's been looking elsewhere
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"Great, now his dipshit followers will be attacking people who look vaguely Chinese. Give it a minute, somebody will be on here defending the bloke." Peek a Boo! | |||
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"this is the exact statement the intelligence community put out yesterday.... "WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Office of the Director of National Intelligence today issued the following Intelligence Community (IC) statement: “The entire Intelligence Community has been consistently providing critical support to U.S. policymakers and those responding to the COVID-19 virus, which originated in China. The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified. “As we do in all crises, the Community’s experts respond by surging resources and producing critical intelligence on issues vital to U.S. national security. The IC will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan.”" Maybe a double bluff. Who knows, who cares? We are were we are | |||
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"When you say Trump is transparent...do you mean most of us can see right through him??" I mean he likes to declassify information that other presidents have not been so comfortable in doing. | |||
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"Nothing that Man Says is Believable??A 4 time Bankrupt Draft Dodger Running the Most Powerful Country in the World is Frightening??????" Is he bankrupt? I am not sure you are believable either | |||
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"Great, now his dipshit followers will be attacking people who look vaguely Chinese. Give it a minute, somebody will be on here defending the bloke. Peek a Boo!" You class yourself as a follower Tom? I think you just find him amusing | |||
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"Great, now his dipshit followers will be attacking people who look vaguely Chinese. Give it a minute, somebody will be on here defending the bloke. Peek a Boo! You class yourself as a follower Tom? I think you just find him amusing" I follow you, Belle and Sebastian | |||
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"Haven’t read the thread reply’s But trump scares me !! Really scares me dangerous man " I was just going to say that | |||
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"Haven’t read the thread reply’s But trump scares me !! Really scares me dangerous man I was just going to say that "Scares me more than this virus | |||
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"When you say Trump is transparent...do you mean most of us can see right through him?? I mean he likes to declassify information that other presidents have not been so comfortable in doing. " You mean like his tax returns? People like you are enablers and you will hasten the demise of democracy in the west through your own shortsightedness. I have nothing but contempt for those who turn a blind eye to corrupt politicians because it suits their own interests. | |||
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"Facebook is making people stupid. And also, trump suggested injecting bleach, that's all I need to say. Oh wait. No. I should add, you shouldn't inject yourself with bleach. " Did he really day that ? | |||
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"Facebook is making people stupid. And also, trump suggested injecting bleach, that's all I need to say. Oh wait. No. I should add, you shouldn't inject yourself with bleach. Did he really day that ?" Yawn | |||
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"We will never know the truth " Nope. No point us mere mortals worrying about it, it won't change anything | |||
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"I didn't know until today that there is a lab in Wuhan. People said it was a man made thing and I thought that was nonsense.. But maybe it's true. Because I can see China admitting that it escaped from a laboratory. " | |||
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"Great, now his dipshit followers will be attacking people who look vaguely Chinese. Give it a minute, somebody will be on here defending the bloke." Have you seen how the Chinese are treating other races in their country especially at the minute? China is one of the most openly racist countries in the world. African people are being thrown from their homes by landlords, beaten in the street, not allowed in hotels and shops. Even a McDonald's had to apologise for them banning people from their stores | |||
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"I have friends working in China and the Chinese government are telling their citizens that it was the USA and the UK that started this . Who knows what to believe " I know I wouldn't believe the communist Chinese government lol | |||
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"Great, now his dipshit followers will be attacking people who look vaguely Chinese. Give it a minute, somebody will be on here defending the bloke. Have you seen how the Chinese are treating other races in their country especially at the minute? China is one of the most openly racist countries in the world. African people are being thrown from their homes by landlords, beaten in the street, not allowed in hotels and shops. Even a McDonald's had to apologise for them banning people from their stores " Ever heard the phrase 'two wrongs don't make a right'? It's possibly for some people to China to be racist, and also for Chinese people not to deserve racist abuse. | |||
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying " Professor Honjo released a statement on 27 April saying: “In the wake of the pain, economic loss, and unprecedented global suffering caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, I am greatly saddened that my name and that of Kyoto University have been used to spread false accusations and misinformation.” https://fullfact.org/online/tasuku-honjo-coronavirus/ | |||
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"I have friends working in China and the Chinese government are telling their citizens that it was the USA and the UK that started this . Who knows what to believe " Personally I trust the Chinese government even less than I trust Trump. In this particular case I don't believe either. | |||
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"He has zero credibility. He only says what suits him and his narrative. Im baffled why people takes his words even remotely seriously. " I don't think most people actually believe much of what Trump says. However he is the President of The United States which makes him the most powerful the person in the world. We all have to take what he says seriously whether we believe it or not, whether it's true or nor, or even whether it's rational or not. | |||
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"Are you sure they did not sell bats at that market?" That is one of the few things from the original post that is slightly open to question, but there were quite a few sources a few weeks ago saying that they didn't. I re-posted exactly what I wrote 3 weeks ago without editing. If I wrote it today I would probably leave that bit out. However the "Five Eyes" report pretty much backs up everything else. | |||
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"Everything he says is to boost his ratings, he has only one goal. To stay in power." Million percent this. He doesn't understand or give a fuck about this virus or anything other than staying in power and trying to boost is own ego. | |||
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"I saw this interview where he stated it started in a lab too. If this really is true: 1) do you think China will admit this? 2) what does this mean for international relations with China? " It's not true so we don't need to worry about question 1. But for question two, for sure, there are implications. Just nothing that Trump gives a fuck about, as long as he gets re-elected. | |||
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"Trump is making noises about this because it is a distraction from his utterly disastrous handling of Coronavirus in the US. He is looking out for himself, as he always does, regardless of the consequences. Did China deliberately release a global pandemic virus? No. Obviously no. Was this virus man-made? I credibly unlikely. Was it dumb luck that this has occurred? Yes. Could it have been an accidental release from a research lab where they they were finding ways to guard against it? Sadly yes. Could it have been naturally occuring but not publicised until too late in attempt to deal with it quietly? Also, sadly, yes. Would China try to cover this up if either were the case? Yes. Does it matter? Yes, but not at this point. Particularly if it leads to hostility, reduced global collaboration and defunding of the only existing global health organisation in the middle of an international crisis. Will there be any evidence available to the West to support this even if it happened? No. Transparency occurs when mistakes are forgiven and allow those involved to learn from their mistakes. That's why science, medicine and civil aviation have developed so quickly. Diplomacy used to allow countries to do the same thing. It allowed backdoor channels to walk back from public statements and avoid conflict. With an ego like Trump's, diplomacy does not function. It is not true that Trump is about "America first". If it were there are situations where he would bite his tongue and have a quiet conversation. Trump is about Trump first. This is about ego and self-interest. Nothing more." Well said. | |||
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying Not sure if this is the same person and haven't read the report yet,but have heard this too. This person worked at the lab, he tried to contact some work colleagues and they were all dead "Do you think if that was true he would be alive to tell the story | |||
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"Great, now his dipshit followers will be attacking people who look vaguely Chinese. Give it a minute, somebody will be on here defending the bloke. Have you seen how the Chinese are treating other races in their country especially at the minute? China is one of the most openly racist countries in the world. African people are being thrown from their homes by landlords, beaten in the street, not allowed in hotels and shops. Even a McDonald's had to apologise for them banning people from their stores Ever heard the phrase 'two wrongs don't make a right'? It's possibly for some people to China to be racist, and also for Chinese people not to deserve racist abuse." | |||
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"I saw this interview where he stated it started in a lab too. If this really is true: 1) do you think China will admit this? 2) what does this mean for international relations with China? It's not true so we don't need to worry about question 1. But for question two, for sure, there are implications. Just nothing that Trump gives a fuck about, as long as he gets re-elected." It may not have started in the Lab (as in made and developed there) However the probability that it escaped from the Lab is more than strong, if not overwhelming. People say that Trump is using this for deflection (he probably is) but it seems that quite a few on here are using Trump to deflect from the real villains here. The Chinese Communist Party. | |||
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"A Japanese Nobel prize winner dr tasuko honjo top professor and immunoligist of 40 years says it is most definitely man made ....just saying Not sure if this is the same person and haven't read the report yet,but have heard this too. This person worked at the lab, he tried to contact some work colleagues and they were all dead
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"Great, now his dipshit followers will be attacking people who look vaguely Chinese. Give it a minute, somebody will be on here defending the bloke. Have you seen how the Chinese are treating other races in their country especially at the minute? China is one of the most openly racist countries in the world. African people are being thrown from their homes by landlords, beaten in the street, not allowed in hotels and shops. Even a McDonald's had to apologise for them banning people from their stores Ever heard the phrase 'two wrongs don't make a right'? It's possibly for some people to China to be racist, and also for Chinese people not to deserve racist abuse. "It's almost as if nationality and skin colour aren't the things we should judge humans on. Hmmmm. | |||
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"I saw this interview where he stated it started in a lab too. If this really is true: 1) do you think China will admit this? 2) what does this mean for international relations with China? It's not true so we don't need to worry about question 1. But for question two, for sure, there are implications. Just nothing that Trump gives a fuck about, as long as he gets re-elected. It may not have started in the Lab (as in made and developed there) However the probability that it escaped from the Lab is more than strong, if not overwhelming. People say that Trump is using this for deflection (he probably is) but it seems that quite a few on here are using Trump to deflect from the real villains here. The Chinese Communist Party." Why are the Chinese Communist Party "the real villains"? What is "villainous" about what might or might not have happened? Why is anything that China has done worse than what Trump has done? | |||
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"I saw this interview where he stated it started in a lab too. If this really is true: 1) do you think China will admit this? 2) what does this mean for international relations with China? It's not true so we don't need to worry about question 1. But for question two, for sure, there are implications. Just nothing that Trump gives a fuck about, as long as he gets re-elected. It may not have started in the Lab (as in made and developed there) However the probability that it escaped from the Lab is more than strong, if not overwhelming. People say that Trump is using this for deflection (he probably is) but it seems that quite a few on here are using Trump to deflect from the real villains here. The Chinese Communist Party. Why are the Chinese Communist Party "the real villains"? What is "villainous" about what might or might not have happened? Why is anything that China has done worse than what Trump has done?" Last time I looked Trump hadn't deliberately covered up the origin of the outbreak. He hadn't had documents and evidence of the outbreak deleted or destroyed. Trump didn't have doctors and scientists arrested for "spreading false rumours". He didn't coerce the WHO to keep silent. He didn't say that international travel to and from China was fine while he locked down cities in his own country. Last but not least. The Lab was in China not Carolina. Trump may be a gobshite but the CCP are pure fucking evil. | |||
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"I saw this interview where he stated it started in a lab too. If this really is true: 1) do you think China will admit this? 2) what does this mean for international relations with China? It's not true so we don't need to worry about question 1. But for question two, for sure, there are implications. Just nothing that Trump gives a fuck about, as long as he gets re-elected. It may not have started in the Lab (as in made and developed there) However the probability that it escaped from the Lab is more than strong, if not overwhelming. People say that Trump is using this for deflection (he probably is) but it seems that quite a few on here are using Trump to deflect from the real villains here. The Chinese Communist Party. Why are the Chinese Communist Party "the real villains"? What is "villainous" about what might or might not have happened? Why is anything that China has done worse than what Trump has done? Last time I looked Trump hadn't deliberately covered up the origin of the outbreak. He hadn't had documents and evidence of the outbreak deleted or destroyed. Trump didn't have doctors and scientists arrested for "spreading false rumours". He didn't coerce the WHO to keep silent. He didn't say that international travel to and from China was fine while he locked down cities in his own country. Last but not least. The Lab was in China not Carolina. Trump may be a gobshite but the CCP are pure fucking evil." So your main reasoning is that more lies have been made up about China than have been made up about the States? Also, I'll think you'll find Trump is trying to cover up the true origin of the outbreak. By making up the above bollocks. | |||
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"I saw this interview where he stated it started in a lab too. If this really is true: 1) do you think China will admit this? 2) what does this mean for international relations with China? It's not true so we don't need to worry about question 1. But for question two, for sure, there are implications. Just nothing that Trump gives a fuck about, as long as he gets re-elected. It may not have started in the Lab (as in made and developed there) However the probability that it escaped from the Lab is more than strong, if not overwhelming. People say that Trump is using this for deflection (he probably is) but it seems that quite a few on here are using Trump to deflect from the real villains here. The Chinese Communist Party. Why are the Chinese Communist Party "the real villains"? What is "villainous" about what might or might not have happened? Why is anything that China has done worse than what Trump has done? Last time I looked Trump hadn't deliberately covered up the origin of the outbreak. He hadn't had documents and evidence of the outbreak deleted or destroyed. Trump didn't have doctors and scientists arrested for "spreading false rumours". He didn't coerce the WHO to keep silent. He didn't say that international travel to and from China was fine while he locked down cities in his own country. Last but not least. The Lab was in China not Carolina. Trump may be a gobshite but the CCP are pure fucking evil." "Pure evil"? A bit dramatic? Of "America first" is allowed, why not "China first"? China has lifted hundred of millions of people out of poverty over the last couple of decades. I don't necessarily agree with their methods bit is certainly is not "evil". China tried to cover up a virus outbreak. Bad. Stupid. Evil? How about starting a war in another country using falsified intelligence? Is that "pure evil" or OK? How about preventing your chief medical advisor from providing information to the House or Representatives? How about sacking the Inspector General of Intelligence who reports information from whistleblowers, the Inspector General of the Pentagon who oversees the pandemic stimulus package, the head of the Department of Health and Human Services watchdog who reported severe shortages of medical equipment? "Pure evil" or just a bit cheeky? | |||
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"Once again the China apologists are strong on here. Trump is a cunt, we all know that. However it is obvious that the lefties on here hate him so much that they will defend the indefensible just to try and score a point against him. The Chinese Communist Party caused this shit. To exactly what degree remains to be seen. But, if nothing else, their cover up, in cohorts with the WHO. Has cost tens of thousands of lives (and counting) all over the world. Oh! and all those Chinese that have been dragged out of poverty? Bet there were not many (if any) Muslims in there. Most have been dragged off to concentration/extermination camps. Then again I suppose the dead are no longer poverty stricken are they?. The lefties on here are the first to jump up and down and shout Fascist/Nazi at anyone who utters so much as a word of caution against Muslims, yet will defend a murderous genocidal regime that is killing them in their millions to the hilt. The hypocrisy is astounding." Why don't we just find out the truth of the matter before going bezerker? I wasn't going to address the rest of your rant. But, I think you're confusing "leftist" with non-racist. And failing to understand both. The point is about judging people, and judging governments by their actions, regardless of their nationality, ethnicity or religion. For example, I am a non-racist. But I do not consider myself a "leftist". | |||
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"Once again the China apologists are strong on here. Trump is a cunt, we all know that. However it is obvious that the lefties on here hate him so much that they will defend the indefensible just to try and score a point against him. The Chinese Communist Party caused this shit. To exactly what degree remains to be seen. But, if nothing else, their cover up, in cohorts with the WHO. Has cost tens of thousands of lives (and counting) all over the world. Oh! and all those Chinese that have been dragged out of poverty? Bet there were not many (if any) Muslims in there. Most have been dragged off to concentration/extermination camps. Then again I suppose the dead are no longer poverty stricken are they?. The lefties on here are the first to jump up and down and shout Fascist/Nazi at anyone who utters so much as a word of caution against Muslims, yet will defend a murderous genocidal regime that is killing them in their millions to the hilt. The hypocrisy is astounding." I am really just trying to establish what your definition of "pure evil" is and how that relates to Chinese actions over he Covid outbreak or what information you have on how they coerced the WHO in some way. You haven't really addressed any of that or how come the countries that followed WHO advice have the lowest infection and mortality rates. If you want to start a separate thread on what China has done wrong then please do. The list will be very long. It is not defensible. We can compare that with the list of what Russians, Germans, the Americans and British have done and perhaps be able to conclude that we all have and do evil things as nations. That does not forgive one group. That does not turn a blind eye All. If you wish to suggest that what the Chinese have done and do is "pure evil" whilst what we have done and do is acceptable then I will probably disagree with you. Calm down and go and start that thread. | |||
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"I saw this interview where he stated it started in a lab too. If this really is true: 1) do you think China will admit this? 2) what does this mean for international relations with China? It's not true so we don't need to worry about question 1. But for question two, for sure, there are implications. Just nothing that Trump gives a fuck about, as long as he gets re-elected. It may not have started in the Lab (as in made and developed there) However the probability that it escaped from the Lab is more than strong, if not overwhelming. People say that Trump is using this for deflection (he probably is) but it seems that quite a few on here are using Trump to deflect from the real villains here. The Chinese Communist Party. Why are the Chinese Communist Party "the real villains"? What is "villainous" about what might or might not have happened? Why is anything that China has done worse than what Trump has done? Last time I looked Trump hadn't deliberately covered up the origin of the outbreak. He hadn't had documents and evidence of the outbreak deleted or destroyed. Trump didn't have doctors and scientists arrested for "spreading false rumours". He didn't coerce the WHO to keep silent. He didn't say that international travel to and from China was fine while he locked down cities in his own country. Last but not least. The Lab was in China not Carolina. Trump may be a gobshite but the CCP are pure fucking evil." Trump will be quick to point a finger at any cost. Doctors may not have been arrested, but many healthcare workers were sacked for speaking up about lack of PPE... | |||
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"President Trump has claimed in his latest press briefing that he has seen evidence that the virus started in a laboratory in Wuhan and that the Chinese government either couldn't or didn't want to contain it. This goes against most of the scientific community that suggests that the outbreak occurred naturally. Does he have actual evidence or is this an attempt to stir up anger against China and increase his ratings with the US voters? https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-trump-says-covid-19-virus-came-from-wuhan-lab-but-he-wont-reveal-evidence-11981445 " Did someone draw him some pictures? One of a lab and then one of a Chinese takeaway. Being Trump, he put 2 and 2 together. Oh no, sorry he couldn’t even manage that | |||
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"The virologists I'm following are seeing more and more evidence of a natural jump. Personally I'll trust Trump on his areas of expertise and virologists on theirs. " The only thingTrump is an expert on is being a dangerous twat. Dunning Krüger... | |||
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Are you suggesting that more people have ignorant views, but keep them under wraps because they want to be popular on fab? "Yes | |||
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"I think Trump is ok, but I like Boris and loved Brexit too, and yes I find Greta Thunberg and climate protesters annoying. But I'm no Fab populist arse licker so I'll be in the minority of people who dare say so
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"Once again the China apologists are strong on here. Trump is a cunt, we all know that. However it is obvious that the lefties on here hate him so much that they will defend the indefensible just to try and score a point against him. The Chinese Communist Party caused this shit. To exactly what degree remains to be seen. But, if nothing else, their cover up, in cohorts with the WHO. Has cost tens of thousands of lives (and counting) all over the world. Oh! and all those Chinese that have been dragged out of poverty? Bet there were not many (if any) Muslims in there. Most have been dragged off to concentration/extermination camps. Then again I suppose the dead are no longer poverty stricken are they?. The lefties on here are the first to jump up and down and shout Fascist/Nazi at anyone who utters so much as a word of caution against Muslims, yet will defend a murderous genocidal regime that is killing them in their millions to the hilt. The hypocrisy is astounding. I am really just trying to establish what your definition of "pure evil" is and how that relates to Chinese actions over he Covid outbreak or what information you have on how they coerced the WHO in some way. You haven't really addressed any of that or how come the countries that followed WHO advice have the lowest infection and mortality rates. If you want to start a separate thread on what China has done wrong then please do. The list will be very long. It is not defensible. We can compare that with the list of what Russians, Germans, the Americans and British have done and perhaps be able to conclude that we all have and do evil things as nations. That does not forgive one group. That does not turn a blind eye All. If you wish to suggest that what the Chinese have done and do is "pure evil" whilst what we have done and do is acceptable then I will probably disagree with you. Calm down and go and start that thread." OK. Then let's stay on topic but put the hatred of Trump to one side for a moment. Do you think that the 5 Eyes report is true or false? Correct or incorrect? | |||
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"Once again the China apologists are strong on here. Trump is a cunt, we all know that. However it is obvious that the lefties on here hate him so much that they will defend the indefensible just to try and score a point against him. The Chinese Communist Party caused this shit. To exactly what degree remains to be seen. But, if nothing else, their cover up, in cohorts with the WHO. Has cost tens of thousands of lives (and counting) all over the world. Oh! and all those Chinese that have been dragged out of poverty? Bet there were not many (if any) Muslims in there. Most have been dragged off to concentration/extermination camps. Then again I suppose the dead are no longer poverty stricken are they?. The lefties on here are the first to jump up and down and shout Fascist/Nazi at anyone who utters so much as a word of caution against Muslims, yet will defend a murderous genocidal regime that is killing them in their millions to the hilt. The hypocrisy is astounding. I am really just trying to establish what your definition of "pure evil" is and how that relates to Chinese actions over he Covid outbreak or what information you have on how they coerced the WHO in some way. You haven't really addressed any of that or how come the countries that followed WHO advice have the lowest infection and mortality rates. If you want to start a separate thread on what China has done wrong then please do. The list will be very long. It is not defensible. We can compare that with the list of what Russians, Germans, the Americans and British have done and perhaps be able to conclude that we all have and do evil things as nations. That does not forgive one group. That does not turn a blind eye All. If you wish to suggest that what the Chinese have done and do is "pure evil" whilst what we have done and do is acceptable then I will probably disagree with you. Calm down and go and start that thread. OK. Then let's stay on topic but put the hatred of Trump to one side for a moment. Do you think that the 5 Eyes report is true or false? Correct or incorrect?" The report itself made a number of suggestions and posed some questions. The main gist being the release of information was suppressed by the authorities in China. This should definitely be investigated. What do you mean by true or false? The report itself isn't proof of anything in itself. But it sure works well as a tool for the media to use to wind people up and distract. And it's 100% working. | |||
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"Once again the China apologists are strong on here. Trump is a cunt, we all know that. However it is obvious that the lefties on here hate him so much that they will defend the indefensible just to try and score a point against him. The Chinese Communist Party caused this shit. To exactly what degree remains to be seen. But, if nothing else, their cover up, in cohorts with the WHO. Has cost tens of thousands of lives (and counting) all over the world. Oh! and all those Chinese that have been dragged out of poverty? Bet there were not many (if any) Muslims in there. Most have been dragged off to concentration/extermination camps. Then again I suppose the dead are no longer poverty stricken are they?. The lefties on here are the first to jump up and down and shout Fascist/Nazi at anyone who utters so much as a word of caution against Muslims, yet will defend a murderous genocidal regime that is killing them in their millions to the hilt. The hypocrisy is astounding. I am really just trying to establish what your definition of "pure evil" is and how that relates to Chinese actions over he Covid outbreak or what information you have on how they coerced the WHO in some way. You haven't really addressed any of that or how come the countries that followed WHO advice have the lowest infection and mortality rates. If you want to start a separate thread on what China has done wrong then please do. The list will be very long. It is not defensible. We can compare that with the list of what Russians, Germans, the Americans and British have done and perhaps be able to conclude that we all have and do evil things as nations. That does not forgive one group. That does not turn a blind eye All. If you wish to suggest that what the Chinese have done and do is "pure evil" whilst what we have done and do is acceptable then I will probably disagree with you. Calm down and go and start that thread. OK. Then let's stay on topic but put the hatred of Trump to one side for a moment. Do you think that the 5 Eyes report is true or false? Correct or incorrect?" I don't "hate" Teump, but I think that he is incompetent and corrupt and self-serving. With good reason. Did you read what I wrote at all as I am about to repeat myself? The report exists and is credible in some ways. It is highly unlikely that the virus was manufactured. It is highly likely that it occurred naturally. It is possible that it spread naturally. It is possible that it was being studied in a lab and escaped due to an accident. I do not know what specific evidence there may be of this. Do you? The Chinese government when they discovered the outbreak, regardless of the cause, tried to control it without publicity. This is what the Chinese are like. Under Teump, it may well be what the USA would have done. Russia and many other regimes would probably tried to do the same thing. This was stupid but with their experience and resources not impossible. I do not think that they delayed confirmation of an outbreak in order to stockpile equipment. I think it was concealing the problem until they had to go public and tell the WHO. That's the end of the intelligence analysis. As the WHO know what they are told it was completely reasonable for them to commend China on moving swiftly and firmly to lockdown. There is no way they could have known of a delay. I have no idea why the WHO actions are criticised. Once again, are you able to explain what was wrong in their advice when the countries that followed it have the lowest infection and mortality rates? Declaring a pandemic does not mean anything by the way other than to mark a certain rate of global spread. The advice to deal with the outbreak once it had left China has been available since 2009. How were China's actions "pure evil" in comparison to the USA or the UK or any other country not being prepared when they could see it coming from the other side of the planet? How did Germany manage? | |||
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"Well bollocks to this game of ping pong. You lot will defend China to the hilt no matter what. However just think about this. Here we are on a swinger site forum arguing different points of view on this subject. As I'm sure millions of others in the west are doing on thousands upon thousands of other forums. Good luck with that in China. If you do try, don't forget to send me a postcard from the Gulag, or whatever it is in Chinese. " Wow, | |||
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"Well bollocks to this game of ping pong. You lot will defend China to the hilt no matter what. However just think about this. Here we are on a swinger site forum arguing different points of view on this subject. As I'm sure millions of others in the west are doing on thousands upon thousands of other forums. Good luck with that in China. If you do try, don't forget to send me a postcard from the Gulag, or whatever it is in Chinese. " I tried to answer you honestly. It's not our fault you're so confused. Take a moment, and make a point. | |||
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"Well bollocks to this game of ping pong. You lot will defend China to the hilt no matter what. However just think about this. Here we are on a swinger site forum arguing different points of view on this subject. As I'm sure millions of others in the west are doing on thousands upon thousands of other forums. Good luck with that in China. If you do try, don't forget to send me a postcard from the Gulag, or whatever it is in Chinese. " Exactly what part of my response was "defending China to the hilt no matter what"? You failed again to explain what the WHO did wrong or why anything that China has done was "pure evil" rather than stupid and incompetent. You have also failed to explain, again,1 why anything that China has done is worse than any other country. I can only assume that is because you cannot. Like everyone else I don't really understand the rest of the "end of days" rant bit you can guarantee that the surest way of making it come true is in demonising China to the extent that you are and making an enemy of it. Look what happened with Russia. | |||
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"Well of course Bush voted for Hillary, they are in different parties but both are deep state batting for the same team." Whereas Trump does what's good for him
Of course, he also does whatever is good for his rich business friends. Particularly the ones that pollute.
Be it with loosening regulation or reducing their tax liabilities. Even to get the Corona stimulus legislation through he tried to have it unsupervised and has since had the Pentagon Inspector General replaced as he was far too independent  Taxes have also changed such that those earning over $1million can right off more.
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"Guardian readers" is that the best you have....
seriously.. if you are going to be a "trump fan boy" shouldn't you at leas keep up with all the republican talking points....
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"I still cant see why we in this country,comment ,slag off and accuse a leader of another country so much as if its our business, whats your thinking,why bother?,enjoy not been an american ,he got the best part of the country working again,tries to stop other super powers over stepping the mark,as a certain otherpresident didnt do,maybe the world needed a hot head in charge for a term in office the american voters certainly thought that.Hitler marched thru europe because we were unprepared and the way this covid 19 has shut the world down now is perhaps the time for ww3,are you trump haters taking sides already,you seem to know an awful lot about things with your facts,are we all doomed on this swingers site.Im goin get a last wank in then before it kicks off " This is really hard to decipher. You appear to be suggesting that it's okay to put time and effort into commenting positively about Trump. But it's not okay to comment negatively? I can tell you why I think he gets commented on a lot. Firstly the media love to report on him. He's always saying some bonkers stuff in his Twitter or in his press conferences. It makes for good headlines. And secondly a lot of choices he makes on US foreign policy have helped to destabilise the middle East and other volatile areas. This is global news, not US news. And of course his environmental and climate change policies, which impact every human on the planet. | |||
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"I still cant see why we in this country,comment ,slag off and accuse a leader of another country so much as if its our business, whats your thinking,why bother?,enjoy not been an american ,he got the best part of the country working again,tries to stop other super powers over stepping the mark,as a certain otherpresident didnt do,maybe the world needed a hot head in charge for a term in office the american voters certainly thought that.Hitler marched thru europe because we were unprepared and the way this covid 19 has shut the world down now is perhaps the time for ww3,are you trump haters taking sides already,you seem to know an awful lot about things with your facts,are we all doomed on this swingers site.Im goin get a last wank in then before it kicks off " Pardon? Can you point me towards the person who said that we are heading towards WW3. Trump is a moron, most of the people in America deserve a better President . | |||
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"Are you sure they did not sell bats at that market? That is one of the few things from the original post that is slightly open to question, but there were quite a few sources a few weeks ago saying that they didn't. I re-posted exactly what I wrote 3 weeks ago without editing. If I wrote it today I would probably leave that bit out. However the "Five Eyes" report pretty much backs up everything else." It's scientific evidence that's pointed to it being of natural occurrence and it's thought that an intermediate animal, such as a pangolin, was infected as an intermediary between bats and humans. Lots of supposition about a lab in the same huge city area doesn't compare, to the natural ways that this type of virus jumps between species. Bats have a range of viruses that humans aren't immune to - there's a reservoir of problems that could affect us. Chinese lifestyles and their former promotion of farming wild animals, with close to zero government management of it, is the much more likely route to this situation. | |||
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"The middle east has been a shit hole since i was a kid,since we found their oil,they ve got nothing else to do there except kill each other,climate change,china biggest polluter, and when they stop so will usa,and uspeople voted for their president,if they want another one they will vote him out,not your worry i would of thought.What im trying to say we seem to have so much hate for that man,but other nasty leaders you seem to ignore and jokingly right them off,as if they are cartoon characters or something,i just dont get it.And yes we are not far off another major global conflict,once the bombers are built,the aicraft carriers,submarines tested,and uav's,ia soldiers ,space satallites above us the leaders will give it a go .Hope you understand my language,i know your word perfect etc,but im trying get a wank in lol" I think you win the prize for the most poorly informed person I've ever come across. I don't debate astrophysics with cats. Good day to you. | |||
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"Once again the China apologists are strong on here. Trump is a cunt, we all know that. However it is obvious that the lefties on here hate him so much that they will defend the indefensible just to try and score a point against him. The Chinese Communist Party caused this shit. To exactly what degree remains to be seen. But, if nothing else, their cover up, in cohorts with the WHO. Has cost tens of thousands of lives (and counting) all over the world. Oh! and all those Chinese that have been dragged out of poverty? Bet there were not many (if any) Muslims in there. Most have been dragged off to concentration/extermination camps. Then again I suppose the dead are no longer poverty stricken are they?. The lefties on here are the first to jump up and down and shout Fascist/Nazi at anyone who utters so much as a word of caution against Muslims, yet will defend a murderous genocidal regime that is killing them in their millions to the hilt. The hypocrisy is astounding. I am really just trying to establish what your definition of "pure evil" is and how that relates to Chinese actions over he Covid outbreak or what information you have on how they coerced the WHO in some way. You haven't really addressed any of that or how come the countries that followed WHO advice have the lowest infection and mortality rates. If you want to start a separate thread on what China has done wrong then please do. The list will be very long. It is not defensible. We can compare that with the list of what Russians, Germans, the Americans and British have done and perhaps be able to conclude that we all have and do evil things as nations. That does not forgive one group. That does not turn a blind eye All. If you wish to suggest that what the Chinese have done and do is "pure evil" whilst what we have done and do is acceptable then I will probably disagree with you. Calm down and go and start that thread. OK. Then let's stay on topic but put the hatred of Trump to one side for a moment. Do you think that the 5 Eyes report is true or false? Correct or incorrect? I don't "hate" Teump, but I think that he is incompetent and corrupt and self-serving. With good reason. Did you read what I wrote at all as I am about to repeat myself? The report exists and is credible in some ways. It is highly unlikely that the virus was manufactured. It is highly likely that it occurred naturally. It is possible that it spread naturally. It is possible that it was being studied in a lab and escaped due to an accident. I do not know what specific evidence there may be of this. Do you? The Chinese government when they discovered the outbreak, regardless of the cause, tried to control it without publicity. This is what the Chinese are like. Under Teump, it may well be what the USA would have done. Russia and many other regimes would probably tried to do the same thing. This was stupid but with their experience and resources not impossible. I do not think that they delayed confirmation of an outbreak in order to stockpile equipment. I think it was concealing the problem until they had to go public and tell the WHO. That's the end of the intelligence analysis. As the WHO know what they are told it was completely reasonable for them to commend China on moving swiftly and firmly to lockdown. There is no way they could have known of a delay. I have no idea why the WHO actions are criticised. Once again, are you able to explain what was wrong in their advice when the countries that followed it have the lowest infection and mortality rates? Declaring a pandemic does not mean anything by the way other than to mark a certain rate of global spread. The advice to deal with the outbreak once it had left China has been available since 2009. How were China's actions "pure evil" in comparison to the USA or the UK or any other country not being prepared when they could see it coming from the other side of the planet? How did Germany manage?" What about the many tonnes of vital medical supplies and PPE they shipped back to China from other countries, BEFORE telling them they would need those same items for themselves That's evil | |||
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"Once again the China apologists are strong on here. Trump is a cunt, we all know that. However it is obvious that the lefties on here hate him so much that they will defend the indefensible just to try and score a point against him. The Chinese Communist Party caused this shit. To exactly what degree remains to be seen. But, if nothing else, their cover up, in cohorts with the WHO. Has cost tens of thousands of lives (and counting) all over the world. Oh! and all those Chinese that have been dragged out of poverty? Bet there were not many (if any) Muslims in there. Most have been dragged off to concentration/extermination camps. Then again I suppose the dead are no longer poverty stricken are they?. The lefties on here are the first to jump up and down and shout Fascist/Nazi at anyone who utters so much as a word of caution against Muslims, yet will defend a murderous genocidal regime that is killing them in their millions to the hilt. The hypocrisy is astounding. I am really just trying to establish what your definition of "pure evil" is and how that relates to Chinese actions over he Covid outbreak or what information you have on how they coerced the WHO in some way. You haven't really addressed any of that or how come the countries that followed WHO advice have the lowest infection and mortality rates. If you want to start a separate thread on what China has done wrong then please do. The list will be very long. It is not defensible. We can compare that with the list of what Russians, Germans, the Americans and British have done and perhaps be able to conclude that we all have and do evil things as nations. That does not forgive one group. That does not turn a blind eye All. If you wish to suggest that what the Chinese have done and do is "pure evil" whilst what we have done and do is acceptable then I will probably disagree with you. Calm down and go and start that thread. OK. Then let's stay on topic but put the hatred of Trump to one side for a moment. Do you think that the 5 Eyes report is true or false? Correct or incorrect? I don't "hate" Teump, but I think that he is incompetent and corrupt and self-serving. With good reason. Did you read what I wrote at all as I am about to repeat myself? The report exists and is credible in some ways. It is highly unlikely that the virus was manufactured. It is highly likely that it occurred naturally. It is possible that it spread naturally. It is possible that it was being studied in a lab and escaped due to an accident. I do not know what specific evidence there may be of this. Do you? The Chinese government when they discovered the outbreak, regardless of the cause, tried to control it without publicity. This is what the Chinese are like. Under Teump, it may well be what the USA would have done. Russia and many other regimes would probably tried to do the same thing. This was stupid but with their experience and resources not impossible. I do not think that they delayed confirmation of an outbreak in order to stockpile equipment. I think it was concealing the problem until they had to go public and tell the WHO. That's the end of the intelligence analysis. As the WHO know what they are told it was completely reasonable for them to commend China on moving swiftly and firmly to lockdown. There is no way they could have known of a delay. I have no idea why the WHO actions are criticised. Once again, are you able to explain what was wrong in their advice when the countries that followed it have the lowest infection and mortality rates? Declaring a pandemic does not mean anything by the way other than to mark a certain rate of global spread. The advice to deal with the outbreak once it had left China has been available since 2009. How were China's actions "pure evil" in comparison to the USA or the UK or any other country not being prepared when they could see it coming from the other side of the planet? How did Germany manage? What about the many tonnes of vital medical supplies and PPE they shipped back to China from other countries, BEFORE telling them they would need those same items for themselves That's evil " Of course, you have multiple impeccable sources for this, not just some YouTube clips and conspiracy sites  | |||
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"I don't mind Trumpy. At least you know what your gonna get. Surely that only makes sense if you're going to get something good. Otherwise it's like saying "I like getting kicked in the nuts, you know what you're going to get"." Ha ha back at it,have you not got anything else to do with your day,other than opinionate ,boring know all | |||
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"I don't mind Trumpy. At least you know what your gonna get. Surely that only makes sense if you're going to get something good. Otherwise it's like saying "I like getting kicked in the nuts, you know what you're going to get"." I agree with him. Are you saying Trump has done nothing good? Think you need to revisit your recent American history and report back | |||
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"I don't mind Trumpy. At least you know what your gonna get. Surely that only makes sense if you're going to get something good. Otherwise it's like saying "I like getting kicked in the nuts, you know what you're going to get". Ha ha back at it,have you not got anything else to do with your day,other than opinionate ,boring know all " Haha there are a few on here like that | |||
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"I don't mind Trumpy. At least you know what your gonna get. Surely that only makes sense if you're going to get something good. Otherwise it's like saying "I like getting kicked in the nuts, you know what you're going to get". Ha ha back at it,have you not got anything else to do with your day,other than opinionate ,boring know all " So you're giving me your opinion on my opinion. And your opinion is that my opinion is boring. Well my opinion, on your opinion, about my opinion. Is that your opinion is also boring Good hustle everyone. | |||
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"I don't mind Trumpy. At least you know what your gonna get. Surely that only makes sense if you're going to get something good. Otherwise it's like saying "I like getting kicked in the nuts, you know what you're going to get". I agree with him. Are you saying Trump has done nothing good? Think you need to revisit your recent American history and report back "I'm open to any updates on something positive he's done. Of course it depends on whom you ask, some people think he's done great things. If you're an oil company executive, for example. | |||
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"I don't mind Trumpy. At least you know what your gonna get." A narcissistic,lying,bullying,thick ,vain,charmeless sexual predator? | |||
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"I don't mind Trumpy. At least you know what your gonna get. Surely that only makes sense if you're going to get something good. Otherwise it's like saying "I like getting kicked in the nuts, you know what you're going to get". I agree with him. Are you saying Trump has done nothing good? Think you need to revisit your recent American history and report back
I'm open to any updates on something positive he's done.
Of course it depends on whom you ask, some people think he's done great things. If you're an oil company executive, for example."He's America first. His withdrawal from the IRNF treaty, he took out I.S top man, sorted out rocket boy in NK, he stood with the people of Hong Kong, Nato members coughing up more money, sorted food stamps for the poor and is helping the forgotten people of USA. Just some of the many good things he's done for the USA, he's not there to please other countries which is probably why so many don't like him. | |||
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"I don't mind Trumpy. At least you know what your gonna get. Surely that only makes sense if you're going to get something good. Otherwise it's like saying "I like getting kicked in the nuts, you know what you're going to get". I agree with him. Are you saying Trump has done nothing good? Think you need to revisit your recent American history and report back
I'm open to any updates on something positive he's done.
Of course it depends on whom you ask, some people think he's done great things. If you're an oil company executive, for example.
He's America first.
His withdrawal from the IRNF treaty, he took out I.S top man, sorted out rocket boy in NK, he stood with the people of Hong Kong, Nato members coughing up more money, sorted food stamps for the poor and is helping the forgotten people of USA.
Just some of the many good things he's done for the USA, he's not there to please other countries which is probably why so many don't like him. "Isnt trying to limit nuclear weapons a good thing? | |||
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"I don't mind Trumpy. At least you know what your gonna get. Surely that only makes sense if you're going to get something good. Otherwise it's like saying "I like getting kicked in the nuts, you know what you're going to get". I agree with him. Are you saying Trump has done nothing good? Think you need to revisit your recent American history and report back
I'm open to any updates on something positive he's done.
Of course it depends on whom you ask, some people think he's done great things. If you're an oil company executive, for example.
He's America first.
His withdrawal from the IRNF treaty, he took out I.S top man, sorted out rocket boy in NK, he stood with the people of Hong Kong, Nato members coughing up more money, sorted food stamps for the poor and is helping the forgotten people of USA.
Just some of the many good things he's done for the USA, he's not there to please other countries which is probably why so many don't like him. "Lol. Most of those are made up. Do you believe the "America first" mantra? If you look, he's actually "rich people first". Anyway, I've already wasted enough time talking to a Trump supporter. Discussion is pointless, as soon as someone admits to liking Trump. Then all hope for rational thought and reasoning has long since left the building. | |||
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"I don't mind Trumpy. At least you know what your gonna get. Surely that only makes sense if you're going to get something good. Otherwise it's like saying "I like getting kicked in the nuts, you know what you're going to get". I agree with him. Are you saying Trump has done nothing good? Think you need to revisit your recent American history and report back
I'm open to any updates on something positive he's done.
Of course it depends on whom you ask, some people think he's done great things. If you're an oil company executive, for example.
He's America first.
His withdrawal from the IRNF treaty, he took out I.S top man, sorted out rocket boy in NK, he stood with the people of Hong Kong, Nato members coughing up more money, sorted food stamps for the poor and is helping the forgotten people of USA.
Just some of the many good things he's done for the USA, he's not there to please other countries which is probably why so many don't like him.
Lol. Most of those are made up.
Do you believe the "America first" mantra? If you look, he's actually "rich people first".
Anyway, I've already wasted enough time talking to a Trump supporter. Discussion is pointless, as soon as someone admits to liking Trump. Then all hope for rational thought and reasoning has long since left the building."Made up? Sorry but you really need to stop using social media for your information. I live in UK so I'm not a supporter as I can't vote for him, but you're obviously one who will always see him in a negative way, so we won't let facts blur your outlook | |||
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"I quite liked Trump being elected at first. Made things interesting. Stirred up the ruling elite. Spoke his mind without censorship....... But it has become clear that.... Ohhh my god he's stupid. It's just cringe worthy most of the time. Surely, we can do and deserve better than this??? " Always baffles me when people think trump isn't part of the elite. Same thing happened here with Farage.Has a pint and fucktards believe he is some sort of working class hero. | |||
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"I quite liked Trump being elected at first. Made things interesting. Stirred up the ruling elite. Spoke his mind without censorship....... But it has become clear that.... Ohhh my god he's stupid. It's just cringe worthy most of the time. Surely, we can do and deserve better than this??? Always baffles me when people think trump isn't part of the elite. Same thing happened here with Farage.Has a pint and fucktards believe he is some sort of working class hero." I think the theory was that Trump's election campaign had less investment from Super PACs than Hilary Clinton's campaign. Aside from that, Trump appears to be the living embodiment of a self servicing politician, and has always been a part of the elite in America. | |||
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"I quite liked Trump being elected at first. Made things interesting. Stirred up the ruling elite. Spoke his mind without censorship....... But it has become clear that.... Ohhh my god he's stupid. It's just cringe worthy most of the time. Surely, we can do and deserve better than this??? Always baffles me when people think trump isn't part of the elite. Same thing happened here with Farage.Has a pint and fucktards believe he is some sort of working class hero." Tut tut...... Shouldn't really quote out of context..... ruling elite, means political elite..... Kennedy, Bush, Clinton etc etc..... | |||
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"I quite liked Trump being elected at first. Made things interesting. Stirred up the ruling elite. Spoke his mind without censorship....... But it has become clear that.... Ohhh my god he's stupid. It's just cringe worthy most of the time. Surely, we can do and deserve better than this??? Always baffles me when people think trump isn't part of the elite. Same thing happened here with Farage.Has a pint and fucktards believe he is some sort of working class hero. Tut tut...... Shouldn't really quote out of context..... ruling elite, means political elite..... Kennedy, Bush, Clinton etc etc..... " Farage twenty years a politician | |||
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"Trump, he's a real war monger, Why can't he just believe what the Chinese Communist Party are saying...." | |||
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"Trump is an ‘expert’ on everything. He’ll have the cure for this virus next. He shouldn’t make claims he can’t prove. " Or put in a better way.....He should just not speak at all. Why he even exists is a total mystery let alone why anyone would put him in power. | |||
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"50 million Americans voted for him, Its called democracy, Maybe we should listen to the Chinese Communist leader instead , they've been very forthcoming..." This is a good point. Democracy, as in this country, is failing. | |||
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"50 million Americans voted for him, Its called democracy, Maybe we should listen to the Chinese Communist leader instead , they've been very forthcoming..." And a total IQ of about 10 between them | |||
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