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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Wizz Air are resuming flights,it strikes me that flying is particularly hazardous with everyone in close proximity.

Also constant recirculation of the air.

Flying is one of the last things I'd do at the moment.

What do others think!?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Wizz Air are resuming flights,it strikes me that flying is particularly hazardous with everyone in close proximity.

Also constant recirculation of the air.

Flying is one of the last things I'd do at the moment.

What do others think!?

"

I think what you think

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

If seating is restricted/spaced, I think I would be ok to fly.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"If seating is restricted/spaced, I think I would be ok to fly.

"

And depends on the social distancing at the airports

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"If seating is restricted/spaced, I think I would be ok to fly.

And depends on the social distancing at the airports "

I can control that myself

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"If seating is restricted/spaced, I think I would be ok to fly.

And depends on the social distancing at the airports

I can control that myself "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wizz Air are resuming flights,it strikes me that flying is particularly hazardous with everyone in close proximity.

Also constant recirculation of the air.

"

Open a window

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wizz Air are resuming flights,it strikes me that flying is particularly hazardous with everyone in close proximity.

Also constant recirculation of the air.

Open a window "

Sit on the wings....2m apart of course....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Wizz Air are resuming flights,it strikes me that flying is particularly hazardous with everyone in close proximity.

Also constant recirculation of the air.

Open a window

Sit on the wings....2m apart of course...."

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"Wizz Air are resuming flights,it strikes me that flying is particularly hazardous with everyone in close proximity.

Also constant recirculation of the air.

Flying is one of the last things I'd do at the moment.

What do others think!?

"

where are they flying to? cant be many places that are letting outsiders in can there

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Wizz Air are resuming flights,it strikes me that flying is particularly hazardous with everyone in close proximity.

Also constant recirculation of the air.

Flying is one of the last things I'd do at the moment.

What do others think!?

where are they flying to? cant be many places that are letting outsiders in can there"

I thought the same. Stranded citizens may be 1 target market, if their government didn't reach them.

I'd expect some medical checks, before other passengers, border force and airport staff put at greater risk.

At present, I'm curious about their destinations, as a lot of Eastern Europe, amongst the other countries, impose restrictions. Unless it's a sale for next year.

I'm not sure they're 1 of the highest rated airlines and not used them.

If you get to somewhere and all museums, hotels etc are shut, it could be a poor trip, after finishing a couple of weeks in enforced government building isolation.

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London

Airliners have to recertificatied their planes if they are sit on tarmac for a significant period of time.

Think of it as an mot

I'm. Not sure how big wizz airs fleet is, I can imagine very big.

I suspect it would be cheaper for them to rotate their fleet flying every so often than store them and recertify them once this is over.

I suspect in part it'll be Becuase on an operational cost benefit like this

I cant see their planes packed with people whoever they go

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough


"Wizz Air are resuming flights,it strikes me that flying is particularly hazardous with everyone in close proximity.

Also constant recirculation of the air.

Open a window "
In the loo as well...I'd give that 10 minutes if I was you!

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

Didn't it get announced that whizz air will fly into and from Luton?

Ive only been monitoring Trans Atlantic development but I'm sure it was Luton, not Gatwick or Heathrow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol how do you social distance on a aircraft its absolutely impossible

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Wizz Air are resuming flights,it strikes me that flying is particularly hazardous with everyone in close proximity.

Also constant recirculation of the air.

Flying is one of the last things I'd do at the moment.

What do others think!?

"
I agree

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Wizz Air are owned by Ryanair !!!

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"Wizz Air are resuming flights,it strikes me that flying is particularly hazardous with everyone in close proximity.

Also constant recirculation of the air.

Flying is one of the last things I'd do at the moment.

What do others think!?

"

Finally found a use for the drop down masks

Mind you I'd want them disposable not disinfected !

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By *apasmurfkingMan
over a year ago

costa del Littlehampton

Easyjet were on about leaving the middle seat empty in each row to help with distancing.

Their planes must be huge

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't matter where you sit on a flight, the air is constanly recycled, hence social distancing is pointless, just means someone can't cough directly in your face...

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Doesn't matter where you sit on a flight, the air is constanly recycled, hence social distancing is pointless, just means someone can't cough directly in your face..."

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

well I certainly won't be sharing space in a flying metal virus carrier anytime soon.

I can't believe this is allowed to happen. Then again repatriation flights have been ongoing through the whole pandemic and nobody has been subject to any checks or quarantine on arrival soooooo?

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By *ax777Man
over a year ago

Not here


"Wizz Air are owned by Ryanair !!!"

I don’t think they are

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Doesn't matter where you sit on a flight, the air is constanly recycled, hence social distancing is pointless, just means someone can't cough directly in your face... "

Just for info ....

“ Studies have shown that a crowded airplane is no more germ-laden than other enclosed spaces—and usually less. Those underfloor filters are described by manufacturers as being of hospital quality. I needn’t be reminded that hospitals are notorious viral incubators, but Boeing says that between 94 and 99.9 percent of airborne microbes are captured, and there’s a total changeover of air every two or three minutes — far more frequently than occurs in offices, movie theaters, or classrooms.”

Seat next to you empty ... perfect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Doesn't matter where you sit on a flight, the air is constanly recycled, hence social distancing is pointless, just means someone can't cough directly in your face...

Just for info ....

“ Studies have shown that a crowded airplane is no more germ-laden than other enclosed spaces—and usually less. Those underfloor filters are described by manufacturers as being of hospital quality. I needn’t be reminded that hospitals are notorious viral incubators, but Boeing says that between 94 and 99.9 percent of airborne microbes are captured, and there’s a total changeover of air every two or three minutes — far more frequently than occurs in offices, movie theaters, or classrooms.”

Seat next to you empty ... perfect "

Some sense. Well done that man. X

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Madness, way too soon to start flights, considering air travel was a huge factor in spreading the virus. A big no to it.

They won't be tracking all the travellers. Toooo risky.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Madness, way too soon to start flights, considering air travel was a huge factor in spreading the virus. A big no to it.

They won't be tracking all the travellers. Toooo risky.

"

it was bad enough shopping today, some people don't know what social distancing is, so I'll give the airports a miss

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem


"Doesn't matter where you sit on a flight, the air is constanly recycled, hence social distancing is pointless, just means someone can't cough directly in your face...

Just for info ....

“ Studies have shown that a crowded airplane is no more germ-laden than other enclosed spaces—and usually less. Those underfloor filters are described by manufacturers as being of hospital quality. I needn’t be reminded that hospitals are notorious viral incubators, but Boeing says that between 94 and 99.9 percent of airborne microbes are captured, and there’s a total changeover of air every two or three minutes — far more frequently than occurs in offices, movie theaters, or classrooms.”

Seat next to you empty ... perfect "

Yes the filters work but air flow within the cabin move the pathogens in the air.

Anyone sat on a plane and could smell what ever someone was eating several rows away, even a baby with a dirty nappy? That's because scent molecules move through the air. Just as airborne pathogens do. Anyone sat by intake vents on the air conditioners are more likely to be contaminated than someone sat near the outlet.

This is why people get coughs and colds from flying ... covid 19 would be no different. Air movement is worse than being sat next to someone. The safest people on a plane are the pilots.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Doesn't matter where you sit on a flight, the air is constanly recycled, hence social distancing is pointless, just means someone can't cough directly in your face...

Just for info ....

“ Studies have shown that a crowded airplane is no more germ-laden than other enclosed spaces—and usually less. Those underfloor filters are described by manufacturers as being of hospital quality. I needn’t be reminded that hospitals are notorious viral incubators, but Boeing says that between 94 and 99.9 percent of airborne microbes are captured, and there’s a total changeover of air every two or three minutes — far more frequently than occurs in offices, movie theaters, or classrooms.”

Seat next to you empty ... perfect

Yes the filters work but air flow within the cabin move the pathogens in the air.

Anyone sat on a plane and could smell what ever someone was eating several rows away, even a baby with a dirty nappy? That's because scent molecules move through the air. Just as airborne pathogens do. Anyone sat by intake vents on the air conditioners are more likely to be contaminated than someone sat near the outlet.

This is why people get coughs and colds from flying ... covid 19 would be no different. Air movement is worse than being sat next to someone. The safest people on a plane are the pilots."

The studies and Boeing must be wrong.

Wear a face mask as well then . Problem solved .

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

If people want to fly, that's up to them, we all know the risks, so each to their own

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem


"Doesn't matter where you sit on a flight, the air is constanly recycled, hence social distancing is pointless, just means someone can't cough directly in your face...

Just for info ....

“ Studies have shown that a crowded airplane is no more germ-laden than other enclosed spaces—and usually less. Those underfloor filters are described by manufacturers as being of hospital quality. I needn’t be reminded that hospitals are notorious viral incubators, but Boeing says that between 94 and 99.9 percent of airborne microbes are captured, and there’s a total changeover of air every two or three minutes — far more frequently than occurs in offices, movie theaters, or classrooms.”

Seat next to you empty ... perfect

Yes the filters work but air flow within the cabin move the pathogens in the air.

Anyone sat on a plane and could smell what ever someone was eating several rows away, even a baby with a dirty nappy? That's because scent molecules move through the air. Just as airborne pathogens do. Anyone sat by intake vents on the air conditioners are more likely to be contaminated than someone sat near the outlet.

This is why people get coughs and colds from flying ... covid 19 would be no different. Air movement is worse than being sat next to someone. The safest people on a plane are the pilots.

The studies and Boeing must be wrong.

Wear a face mask as well then . Problem solved . "

If you trust the studies done by companies that puts their safety records above other studies well more fool the public.

(copied from ncbi national library for medicine)

-Air transportation is a major vehicle for the rapid spread and dissemination of communicable diseases, and there have been a number of reported outbreaks of serious airborne diseases aboard commercial flights including tuberculosis, severe acute respiratory syndrome, influenza, smallpox, and measles, to name a few. -

But sure believe the companies. The mechanics of the filters work but youre forgetting the path air has to take to get to the vents to be filtered everything in its way gets contaminated.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

both wizzair and Lufthansa have said that all passengers travelling with them will need to have face masks on from boarding gate onwards to the point where they collect baggage.....

i know airlines have taken the middle seat of 3 out of use.... and i know that single passengers will not be seated next to another where space is available....

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

If we can only make essential journeys, and people are getting fined for breaking the lock down rules. Whose going to be doing the flying and how do they get to the airport?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If seating is restricted/spaced, I think I would be ok to fly.

"

And how will restricted and spaced seating help prevent you catching the virus

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By *ugbydadMan
over a year ago

anywhere

Just breathe out and not in...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rediculous.. Unless you can have individual air flow.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"If we can only make essential journeys, and people are getting fined for breaking the lock down rules. Whose going to be doing the flying and how do they get to the airport? "

biggie is a morbid one....

having to fly for funerals ect......

plus there are still repatriation flights going on.......

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Just breathe out and not in... "

Tut...of course...

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"If seating is restricted/spaced, I think I would be ok to fly.

And how will restricted and spaced seating help prevent you catching the virus "

Read _abios post just before yours

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"If we can only make essential journeys, and people are getting fined for breaking the lock down rules. Whose going to be doing the flying and how do they get to the airport?

biggie is a morbid one....

having to fly for funerals ect......

plus there are still repatriation flights going on......."

Do they let you go to funerals, can't even go in this country if there are more than 10 of you. I understand the repatriation flights, people have to get home

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Doesn't matter where you sit on a flight, the air is constanly recycled, hence social distancing is pointless, just means someone can't cough directly in your face...

Just for info ....

“ Studies have shown that a crowded airplane is no more germ-laden than other enclosed spaces—and usually less. Those underfloor filters are described by manufacturers as being of hospital quality. I needn’t be reminded that hospitals are notorious viral incubators, but Boeing says that between 94 and 99.9 percent of airborne microbes are captured, and there’s a total changeover of air every two or three minutes — far more frequently than occurs in offices, movie theaters, or classrooms.”

Seat next to you empty ... perfect

Yes the filters work but air flow within the cabin move the pathogens in the air.

Anyone sat on a plane and could smell what ever someone was eating several rows away, even a baby with a dirty nappy? That's because scent molecules move through the air. Just as airborne pathogens do. Anyone sat by intake vents on the air conditioners are more likely to be contaminated than someone sat near the outlet.

This is why people get coughs and colds from flying ... covid 19 would be no different. Air movement is worse than being sat next to someone. The safest people on a plane are the pilots.

The studies and Boeing must be wrong.

Wear a face mask as well then . Problem solved .

If you trust the studies done by companies that puts their safety records above other studies well more fool the public.

(copied from ncbi national library for medicine)

-Air transportation is a major vehicle for the rapid spread and dissemination of communicable diseases, and there have been a number of reported outbreaks of serious airborne diseases aboard commercial flights including tuberculosis, severe acute respiratory syndrome, influenza, smallpox, and measles, to name a few. -

But sure believe the companies. The mechanics of the filters work but youre forgetting the path air has to take to get to the vents to be filtered everything in its way gets contaminated. "

And the face mask?

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem


"Doesn't matter where you sit on a flight, the air is constanly recycled, hence social distancing is pointless, just means someone can't cough directly in your face...

Just for info ....

“ Studies have shown that a crowded airplane is no more germ-laden than other enclosed spaces—and usually less. Those underfloor filters are described by manufacturers as being of hospital quality. I needn’t be reminded that hospitals are notorious viral incubators, but Boeing says that between 94 and 99.9 percent of airborne microbes are captured, and there’s a total changeover of air every two or three minutes — far more frequently than occurs in offices, movie theaters, or classrooms.”

Seat next to you empty ... perfect

Yes the filters work but air flow within the cabin move the pathogens in the air.

Anyone sat on a plane and could smell what ever someone was eating several rows away, even a baby with a dirty nappy? That's because scent molecules move through the air. Just as airborne pathogens do. Anyone sat by intake vents on the air conditioners are more likely to be contaminated than someone sat near the outlet.

This is why people get coughs and colds from flying ... covid 19 would be no different. Air movement is worse than being sat next to someone. The safest people on a plane are the pilots.

The studies and Boeing must be wrong.

Wear a face mask as well then . Problem solved .

If you trust the studies done by companies that puts their safety records above other studies well more fool the public.

(copied from ncbi national library for medicine)

-Air transportation is a major vehicle for the rapid spread and dissemination of communicable diseases, and there have been a number of reported outbreaks of serious airborne diseases aboard commercial flights including tuberculosis, severe acute respiratory syndrome, influenza, smallpox, and measles, to name a few. -

But sure believe the companies. The mechanics of the filters work but youre forgetting the path air has to take to get to the vents to be filtered everything in its way gets contaminated.

And the face mask?"

Face mask would work on short flights, but long flights you wanna sit 8+ hours with a facemask on, no drinks and no food. Think logically the air is dry on a plane no drinks for the whole flight. Dryness of the air means you're less likely to catch legionaires but doesn't stop you catching other pathogens. Then you have to consider you're potentially contaminated head to toe you'll require complete change of clothes and a shower. It's going to be on your skin and in your hair. "Yeah you'll be fine use a face mask let me poke a hole for your drinking straw "

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"Doesn't matter where you sit on a flight, the air is constanly recycled, hence social distancing is pointless, just means someone can't cough directly in your face...

Just for info ....

“ Studies have shown that a crowded airplane is no more germ-laden than other enclosed spaces—and usually less. Those underfloor filters are described by manufacturers as being of hospital quality. I needn’t be reminded that hospitals are notorious viral incubators, but Boeing says that between 94 and 99.9 percent of airborne microbes are captured, and there’s a total changeover of air every two or three minutes — far more frequently than occurs in offices, movie theaters, or classrooms.”

Seat next to you empty ... perfect

Yes the filters work but air flow within the cabin move the pathogens in the air.

Anyone sat on a plane and could smell what ever someone was eating several rows away, even a baby with a dirty nappy? That's because scent molecules move through the air. Just as airborne pathogens do. Anyone sat by intake vents on the air conditioners are more likely to be contaminated than someone sat near the outlet.

This is why people get coughs and colds from flying ... covid 19 would be no different. Air movement is worse than being sat next to someone. The safest people on a plane are the pilots.

The studies and Boeing must be wrong.

Wear a face mask as well then . Problem solved .

If you trust the studies done by companies that puts their safety records above other studies well more fool the public.

(copied from ncbi national library for medicine)

-Air transportation is a major vehicle for the rapid spread and dissemination of communicable diseases, and there have been a number of reported outbreaks of serious airborne diseases aboard commercial flights including tuberculosis, severe acute respiratory syndrome, influenza, smallpox, and measles, to name a few. -

But sure believe the companies. The mechanics of the filters work but youre forgetting the path air has to take to get to the vents to be filtered everything in its way gets contaminated.

And the face mask?

Face mask would work on short flights, but long flights you wanna sit 8+ hours with a facemask on, no drinks and no food. Think logically the air is dry on a plane no drinks for the whole flight. Dryness of the air means you're less likely to catch legionaires but doesn't stop you catching other pathogens. Then you have to consider you're potentially contaminated head to toe you'll require complete change of clothes and a shower. It's going to be on your skin and in your hair. "Yeah you'll be fine use a face mask let me poke a hole for your drinking straw ""

Makes me wonder how I have managed to stay healthy all this time, what with all the flights taken in the last 12 months ... not a cough or a sneeze

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Doesn't matter where you sit on a flight, the air is constanly recycled, hence social distancing is pointless, just means someone can't cough directly in your face...

Just for info ....

“ Studies have shown that a crowded airplane is no more germ-laden than other enclosed spaces—and usually less. Those underfloor filters are described by manufacturers as being of hospital quality. I needn’t be reminded that hospitals are notorious viral incubators, but Boeing says that between 94 and 99.9 percent of airborne microbes are captured, and there’s a total changeover of air every two or three minutes — far more frequently than occurs in offices, movie theaters, or classrooms.”

Seat next to you empty ... perfect

Yes the filters work but air flow within the cabin move the pathogens in the air.

Anyone sat on a plane and could smell what ever someone was eating several rows away, even a baby with a dirty nappy? That's because scent molecules move through the air. Just as airborne pathogens do. Anyone sat by intake vents on the air conditioners are more likely to be contaminated than someone sat near the outlet.

This is why people get coughs and colds from flying ... covid 19 would be no different. Air movement is worse than being sat next to someone. The safest people on a plane are the pilots.

The studies and Boeing must be wrong.

Wear a face mask as well then . Problem solved .

If you trust the studies done by companies that puts their safety records above other studies well more fool the public.

(copied from ncbi national library for medicine)

-Air transportation is a major vehicle for the rapid spread and dissemination of communicable diseases, and there have been a number of reported outbreaks of serious airborne diseases aboard commercial flights including tuberculosis, severe acute respiratory syndrome, influenza, smallpox, and measles, to name a few. -

But sure believe the companies. The mechanics of the filters work but youre forgetting the path air has to take to get to the vents to be filtered everything in its way gets contaminated.

And the face mask?

Face mask would work on short flights, but long flights you wanna sit 8+ hours with a facemask on, no drinks and no food. Think logically the air is dry on a plane no drinks for the whole flight. Dryness of the air means you're less likely to catch legionaires but doesn't stop you catching other pathogens. Then you have to consider you're potentially contaminated head to toe you'll require complete change of clothes and a shower. It's going to be on your skin and in your hair. "Yeah you'll be fine use a face mask let me poke a hole for your drinking straw "

Makes me wonder how I have managed to stay healthy all this time, what with all the flights taken in the last 12 months ... not a cough or a sneeze "

I always get I'll after flying, colds, chest infection,

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Considering a Japan study announced last week that it is very likely that it is transmissable from micro-droplets that don't fall therefore effectivly airborne.

USA also researching and mentioned during Cuomo briefing late last week while recommending public face masks for this reason.

WHO are now checking report and if confirmed, will blow a hole in the whole 2 metre thing.

A suspension of very small water droplets, although the droplets experience gravity like any other 'massive' object, they also experience other forces that kind of stabilise the suspension. The droplets undergo air drag, roughly modelled by Stokes' law, which 'greatly reduces their tendency to fall'.

I have caught colds in the past from simply being in the same room for a prolongued period as someone snuffling and sure many others have too.

If confirmed that virus is shedded in quantity by simply breathing or talking then not many will be flying.

Ever seen the cloud of smoke from a vape smoker, imagine this was aerosol from an infected person?

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By *apiomanMan
over a year ago

Shipley

The fact that the same air is circulating in a plane is the biggest concern. And to get social distancing it will need to fly half empty. I don’t fancy it myself right now.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

Wizz air do a lot of flights to Poland from Doncaster airport

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By *mmixtapeCouple
over a year ago

middle earth

Repatriation flights are for emergencies only, people who are stuck in countries that they don't live in. Not a gaunt away for a holiday, and the FCO is still stressing don't get on the flights if you don't have to. The British government isnt doing enough to protect the population from those who are using air travel. In Australia people who have to be repatriated are put in a quarantine hotel for 14 days.

I work the the FCO getting people home if they need to be home, flying isn't safe, don't do it

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If you live next to an airport and can claim your short trip to it is your daily essential exercise, maybe. Otherwise the police could fine you for travelling to it.

I see they're flying this month, in a day or so.

My issue is that it loads risk on to border guards, airport and airline stuff, as well as transports the virus around.

If people have a no-refund or changes ticket and feel not quite 100%, some would still travel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Considering a Japan study announced last week that it is very likely that it is transmissable from micro-droplets that don't fall therefore effectivly airborne.

USA also researching and mentioned during Cuomo briefing late last week while recommending public face masks for this reason.

WHO are now checking report and if confirmed, will blow a hole in the whole 2 metre thing.

A suspension of very small water droplets, although the droplets experience gravity like any other 'massive' object, they also experience other forces that kind of stabilise the suspension. The droplets undergo air drag, roughly modelled by Stokes' law, which 'greatly reduces their tendency to fall'.

I have caught colds in the past from simply being in the same room for a prolongued period as someone snuffling and sure many others have too.

If confirmed that virus is shedded in quantity by simply breathing or talking then not many will be flying.

Ever seen the cloud of smoke from a vape smoker, imagine this was aerosol from an infected person?

"

What was mentioned in the Cuomo briefing?

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem


"Considering a Japan study announced last week that it is very likely that it is transmissable from micro-droplets that don't fall therefore effectivly airborne.

USA also researching and mentioned during Cuomo briefing late last week while recommending public face masks for this reason.

WHO are now checking report and if confirmed, will blow a hole in the whole 2 metre thing.

A suspension of very small water droplets, although the droplets experience gravity like any other 'massive' object, they also experience other forces that kind of stabilise the suspension. The droplets undergo air drag, roughly modelled by Stokes' law, which 'greatly reduces their tendency to fall'.

I have caught colds in the past from simply being in the same room for a prolongued period as someone snuffling and sure many others have too.

If confirmed that virus is shedded in quantity by simply breathing or talking then not many will be flying.

Ever seen the cloud of smoke from a vape smoker, imagine this was aerosol from an infected person?

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I've been saying this for weeks. Only have to look at smoking and in the sunlight see the layers of smoke in the air suspended from each cigarette. The layers act as a time line. But because people don't see it for themselves they don't believe it. Cold air sinks warm air rises. But when you add in air circulation that's movement of the suspended particles no matter that it's a microbe or a water molecule. Fog is a mass or water molecules suspended in the air! But you tell them the same happens with viruses they won't believe you. When we talk about high humidity this is it, air saturated with water molecules even though you can't see it. In summer high humidity stops your sweat from evaporating on your skin and you become stifling hot because evaporation is the mechanism that cools the body.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Austraila arrivals to Perth are being put on Rottnest Island for two weeks, what is the UK doing?

If we had been quarantining arrivees since the end of Feb, would we be in the mess we are in now?

On another point in aircraft.

Destructive Ozone Filtration: not usually fitted due to costs and power requirement.

I used to work with a company manufacturing Ozone units for use in aircraft and hotels. BAE146 were prone to fume events (oil leak from engine bearings releasing toxins into cabin air). These units were fitted to mitigate the effects as ozone would destroy any carbon based compound passing through it. The spin off was safer air due to destruction of pollutants, odour, virus and bacteria and as such the company offerered same technology to hotels, offices and apartment using communial air.

They were offered to hospitals to sterilise air being ducted outside from isolation units but take up was low.

Airbus and Boeing offer Ozone filtration as an option and not many aircraft have them. The primary reason for fitting to aircraft was to avoid toxicity of fume events, not for any health benefit.

This may later become the crux of British Airways consistant denials and effect thier defence of fume events on aircraft where they have had some of thier fleet fitted with such devices. GMB Union are currently suing BA.

During a fume event, passengers and pilots are effected as they breathe the same air - mainly recirculated and where fitted all air passes through. There are no zones as falsly claimed a month ago by one airline in an aircraft.

These are not the same filters used to reduce cabin Ozone levels due to flying near the Ionosphere where externally at high altitude, O3 levels are high. They generate and quickly destroy Ozone in order to clean air.

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By *ete1260Man
over a year ago

Evesham

Take the virus back to China - presumably the way it came !

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Hi NYX

Spot on, a molecule is bouyant (suspended) in air at a certain size and weight, mainly invisible to naked eye.

Take a torch out on a misty or foggy night and you can see water droplets floating freely up and around and rarely falling.

The 'droplet' advice of 2m is based on a virus trapped in a water droplet making it heavy enough for gravity to pull down on it. Does every virus particle bond with water molecules.

I doubt it, I try to talk to others at 90 degrees to the wind as conscious of being in the line of fire even at 2m from them.

Currently pollen levels are high - take a powerful torch outside on a dry night and point upwards and see just how many particles are floating around in the air around you.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Cuomo briefing: that virus can remain suspended longer than 2 metres.

Think was Monday or last Friday.

Stokes Law us the physics behind the suggestion.

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By *yx_InannaWoman
over a year ago

Burslem


"Hi NYX

Spot on, a molecule is bouyant (suspended) in air at a certain size and weight, mainly invisible to naked eye.

Take a torch out on a misty or foggy night and you can see water droplets floating freely up and around and rarely falling.

The 'droplet' advice of 2m is based on a virus trapped in a water droplet making it heavy enough for gravity to pull down on it. Does every virus particle bond with water molecules.

I doubt it, I try to talk to others at 90 degrees to the wind as conscious of being in the line of fire even at 2m from them.

Currently pollen levels are high - take a powerful torch outside on a dry night and point upwards and see just how many particles are floating around in the air around you.

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Air we breathe contains so many particles. Does no one ever wonder how dust gets on top of furniture? Dust being the accumulation over time of particles that have descended from the air.

Smog all the pollution in the air

A cough or sneeze produces large droplets which can cover past 8ft due to the velocity but the microdroplets of breath 6ft. A sneeze can carry 100k droplets and a cough 3000. The larger droplets easily descend but microdroplets remain suspended and documented to be 3hrs or more in the air.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

There is clearly a reason why they may be getting to fly.

We can throw around as many scientific facts as we like on here, at the end of the day it's not going to be one of us that decides.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Cuomo briefing: that virus can remain suspended longer than 2 metres.

Think was Monday or last Friday.

Stokes Law us the physics behind the suggestion."

Thank you

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Wizz Air are mainly concerned with flying people to and from Esdtern Europe.

There are still plenty of flights around. I see KLM, BA, Pakistan, Emarites, Ryanair and Delta all still over flying Lincolnshire.

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By *ete1260Man
over a year ago

Evesham


"Wizz Air are owned by Ryanair !!!

I don’t think they are"
Hungarian airline.

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By *9bottMan
over a year ago

chester

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Reports from a Wuhan hospital showing virus is fully 'airborne' so if proves correct, will blow the lid off the 2m recomendation for distancing.

Be ready for compulsary mask wearing in public and extreme restrictions on air travel. Might be tested prior to being allowed to board an aircraft or ferry.

If it is the case, it also opens government up to liabilty of harm caused to NHS staff and those infected during routine visits as ventilation and doors in most UK hospitals are not designed airtight with negative pressure ventilation where air is drawn out and filtered.

Isolation wards at our local hospital are next to wards with non COVID and draughts blow under doors when closed and through the doors when open.

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By *arksxMan
over a year ago

Leicester / London


"Wizz Air are mainly concerned with flying people to and from Esdtern Europe.

There are still plenty of flights around. I see KLM, BA, Pakistan, Emarites, Ryanair and Delta all still over flying Lincolnshire. "

Flying their planes to depots to be grounded.

Airlines are returning aircrafts back to Boeing and airbus before the leases are up just not have to pay the grounding fees.

Klm has grounded almost its entire fleet.

They are particularly fucked headging their fuel cost based on oil at $75 a barrel.

Virus or not the aviation industry is gonna be entirely different just like 9/11 shook it before

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

https://youtu.be/zIbXai0l174

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Wizz Air are mainly concerned with flying people to and from Esdtern Europe.

There are still plenty of flights around. I see KLM, BA, Pakistan, Emarites, Ryanair and Delta all still over flying Lincolnshire.

Flying their planes to depots to be grounded.

Airlines are returning aircrafts back to Boeing and airbus before the leases are up just not have to pay the grounding fees.

Klm has grounded almost its entire fleet.

They are particularly fucked headging their fuel cost based on oil at $75 a barrel.

Virus or not the aviation industry is gonna be entirely different just like 9/11 shook it before"

These are scheduled flights, not plane movements.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Places must be open , where I work we have had some polish and Romanians go back home to visit just this week both flying

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By *ikilovesCCouple
over a year ago

village life, closest main town inverness


"Wizz Air are resuming flights,it strikes me that flying is particularly hazardous with everyone in close proximity.

Also constant recirculation of the air.

Open a window "

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brilliant

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By *ncutgemMan
over a year ago

Bath ish

The uk will follow oz they will quarantine people on a seperate island for life its called britian yes were fucked I Used to love this country

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge

Flying is as a simple decision for the individual. If you don't think it's safe then don't fly. If you're young and/or healthy then it doesn't matter anyway since catching it is not an issue.

For the airlines it's a problem because the countries have to agree to let all these potentially infected people in for a non-essential holiday without requiring a quarantine period which would make the journey pointless.

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