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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

81,611 tests completed yesterday, a rise of over 20,000 I think.

Tomorrow we find out if we reached 100,000, will it be reached?

If it reaches 99,999 will people complain, and shout about a government failure?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Aye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But not me by the way

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Is the figure real no one will ever know ...more Tory stories

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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

"But not me by the way

Me neither.

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By *eilde HoarWoman
over a year ago

In a wax coated bubble

Of course they will

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

People wsill complain even if they hit a 100,000 as they do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually if they do hit target I will be (a) amazed (b) waiting for an apology from opposition parties who said it was nonsense and unachievable in the time....could be a long wait!!

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By *0rn1Man
over a year ago

soutport

Was tested on Monday and tbf I think it’s really good how they have managed to throw the test centres together that quickly! And have everything needed and keep everyone moving along.

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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

Also wonder if the tone of the media will change if they hit the target?

Testing actually jumped around 30,000 since the previous day only 18,000 away from hitting the 100,000 mark. Yet the BBC states "still a long way away from the target".

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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

"Was tested on Monday and tbf I think it’s really good how they have managed to throw the test centres together that quickly! And have everything needed and keep everyone moving along."

Got to 80k tests from nothing in around a month.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

I was watching the BBC news before todays press briefing.

The news reader said to the Westminster reporter, only 51k tests yesterday they are going to have to pull a rabbit out of a hat to reach 100k. Next was the briefing and 81K tests carried out. News reader never mentioned 81K however to me it was like yeah a couple of ears, head and half of the bunny is out of that hat mate.!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People wsill complain even if they hit a 100,000 as they do."

I really hope they do it. Sick of people complaining. The world is on its' knees ffs. They are doing their best but they aren't miracle workers.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I hope they did hit their target today. At least it would be evidence of 1 thing going right.

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By *illyjohnyCouple
over a year ago

brighton

The media only ever want bad news and they try to manipulate everything like ppe shortages , death rates , lock down, lifting lock down anything for a story as long as it's spreading doom and gloom.

Then they have the odd happy story and manipulate the person or people to boost their ratings.

Never trust a journalist.

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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

"I was watching the BBC news before todays press briefing.

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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

"People wsill complain even if they hit a 100,000 as they do.

I really hope they do it. Sick of people complaining. The world is on its' knees ffs. They are doing their best but they aren't miracle workers. "

Completely agree

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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

"I hope they did hit their target today. At least it would be evidence of 1 thing going right.

Would be nice to hear the media report a bit more positivity.

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By *eeBee67 OP Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

"The media only ever want bad news and they try to manipulate everything like ppe shortages , death rates , lock down, lifting lock down anything for a story as long as it's spreading doom and gloom.

Then they have the odd happy story and manipulate the person or people to boost their ratings.

Never trust a journalist. "

Hate the way they try and get people to cry when recalling a story.

Fingers crossed for 100k plus.

Then let's see what they do.

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria

Would much rather have a test that says you have had it than if you have got it now, if you show negative at the time of testing you might just catch it 5 mins later so seems quite pointless in a lot of cases and you just feel some people will just be asking for the kit so they have had one and not because they were showing symptoms

Still if people complain they fall short on the target for testing it’s a rest on the PPE bashing, well until something else comes along.

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes

"People wsill complain even if they hit a 100,000 as they do.

I really hope they do it. Sick of people complaining. The world is on its' knees ffs. They are doing their best but they aren't miracle workers.

Completely agree

Me too

Fed up of all these people constantly putting our country down. All countries have huge problems.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

We also need a test to see who’s had Covid is there such a test yet ?

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

The rate of testing is not really important it really depends on the track and trace to keep the virus down

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"We also need a test to see who’s had Covid is there such a test yet ? "

No not yet

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"We also need a test to see who’s had Covid is there such a test yet ? "

We bought a lot of antigen tests but they weren't reliable so back they went

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well add 3 to today’s numbers as I’ve been tested as have two others in my household.

The army are spot on it was all very easy and relaxed.

I have however lost it!! I’m one for very much following rules and have stuck to guidelines to the letter.

This lead to my outrage last night/today with a local town councillor and his wife, who posted on a platform they had both been tested having booked tests online. My issue neither are key workers and neither showed symptoms, this makes a mockery of the system especially when appointments on the gov website in my area are so limited. We have a higher than average number of old folks homes here I asked them both ‘why are they more important than front line workers and myself by getting tested. This leaves no appointments for us. They didn’t like the comment and banned me from the page.

My point was the two places they took being tested used resources which could have tested two members of staff in a care home.

Surely care staff working with the elderly or a nurse who’s front line is far more important. Am I wrong???.

I am going to write a letter of complaint to the council as he called me an idiot and also stupid which I’m far from......I just think others needs are much greater

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

"We also need a test to see who’s had Covid is there such a test yet ?

We bought a lot of antigen tests but they weren't reliable so back they went"
Hope they can get a reliable test find out who’s has this virus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We also need a test to see who’s had Covid is there such a test yet ?

We bought a lot of antigen tests but they weren't reliable so back they went"

You mean antibody test dont you ?

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"We also need a test to see who’s had Covid is there such a test yet ?

We bought a lot of antigen tests but they weren't reliable so back they went Hope they can get a reliable test find out who’s has this virus "

I think they will. They also need to be sure that having the virus then gives you immunity

I heard an epidemiologist say that it is highly probable but they have to be sure

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"We also need a test to see who’s had Covid is there such a test yet ?

We bought a lot of antigen tests but they weren't reliable so back they went

You mean antibody test dont you ?"

Yes. An antibody test looks for antigens in your body. Your body cleverly produces antigens once you've had the virus

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"We also need a test to see who’s had Covid is there such a test yet ?

We bought a lot of antigen tests but they weren't reliable so back they went

You mean antibody test dont you ?

Yes. An antibody test looks for antigens in your body. Your body cleverly produces antigens once you've had the virus"

Wait, its other way around

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

The antigen is the virus

Anyway I think they will have one as soon as they find one that works

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes the antigen test is to see if you have it.

The antibody test is to see if you have had it.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Yes the antigen test is to see if you have it.

The antibody test is to see if you have had it."

Yes quite right

I think we'll need a combination of both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We do because we have both had it and it would be interesting to see what results we get back from an antibody test.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"We do because we have both had it and it would be interesting to see what results we get back from an antibody test."

They'd also need to be sure that even though somebody has had it they can't still catch it again and spread it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We do because we have both had it and it would be interesting to see what results we get back from an antibody test.

They'd also need to be sure that even though somebody has had it they can't still catch it again and spread it"

Agreed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hope they will reach 100k. I also hope that it won't be just a one-off for propaganda with the next day dropping at 30k again.

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By *unscot44Man
over a year ago

Stepps (Glasgow)

If they have managed to get to even 90,000 today that will have been a decent effort no doubt.

However that does not excuse the length of time it took to get to this point nor the fiasco over PPE and their dithering in early part of this crisis which has played a part in where we are at current time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If they have managed to get to even 90,000 today that will have been a decent effort no doubt.

Seems odd to appreciate 90k would be a decent effort , then in the same breath say its taken too long ... surely its one of the other

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well add 3 to today’s numbers as I’ve been tested as have two others in my household.

The army are spot on it was all very easy and relaxed.

I have however lost it!! I’m one for very much following rules and have stuck to guidelines to the letter.

My point was the two places they took being tested used resources which could have tested two members of staff in a care home.

Surely care staff working with the elderly or a nurse who’s front line is far more important. Am I wrong???.

I am going to write a letter of complaint to the council as he called me an idiot and also stupid which I’m far from......I just think others needs are much greater "

Wow that's awful. Hope you have screenshots of where he called you an idiot! He should be sacked.

Wonder how they can justify taking tests away from front line workers etc.

They obviously are guilty and that's why they banned you for challenging them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If they have managed to get to even 90,000 today that will have been a decent effort no doubt.

They should just buy PPE from other countries. We are the only country in the world with covid. The other countries don't need PPE for themselves.

Or just get all the furloughed businesses here making it. All the car companies/ restaurants/ scouts groups/ vacuum makers who have offered to make PPE. It can be knocked up easily by anyone and doesn't need to meet specifications that prove it will protect front line staff.

Ethel can knit some masks and Bertie can make scrubs from shower curtains now B&Q is open again.

Stupid government for not taking up the offers.

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria

"If they have managed to get to even 90,000 today that will have been a decent effort no doubt.

The government do not order equipment for the NHS they supply the money. The NHS managers are the procurement sources. Have a look at NHS supply chain covid19, they said they had stockpiles of PPE but obviously did not take into account the 4 week pipeline ordering as that’s how long it takes a container to come from China, in early February they said they were checking all products that comes from China to make sure they continue to flow if not they would source from different countries, a little late considering all other countries were placing huge orders, this is a worldwide virus so of course there was going to be a shortage somewhere...he who hesitates. Maybe if we hadn’t stopped ordering from UK company’s and put most of our eggs in China’s basket we would have faired better but it’s not the governments fault the PPE ran short so can we play another tune.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It seems tgat tgey HAVE met the 100k tests done so praise for MH and the team in getting this sorted.

Now we move up and up....and decide where and who we target the testing on and only now we have the testing capacity we can start to move into tracking and tracing and targeting tests there.

An interesting fact on the news...in terms of tests per million population we are ahead of S Korea who were held up as the testing superstars!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well add 3 to today’s numbers as I’ve been tested as have two others in my household.

The army are spot on it was all very easy and relaxed.

I have however lost it!! I’m one for very much following rules and have stuck to guidelines to the letter.

My point was the two places they took being tested used resources which could have tested two members of staff in a care home.

Surely care staff working with the elderly or a nurse who’s front line is far more important. Am I wrong???.

I am going to write a letter of complaint to the council as he called me an idiot and also stupid which I’m far from......I just think others needs are much greater

Wow that's awful. Hope you have screenshots of where he called you an idiot! He should be sacked.

Wonder how they can justify taking tests away from front line workers etc.

They obviously are guilty and that's why they banned you for challenging them. "

I have approached to council via twi**** they are making excuses and stating everyone should follow guidelines on who can be tested and should book an appointment. Like I just pointed out he did not book and turned up which I think is dishonest and a way of creating a loophole for his own gain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wrong that he did...unless in one of the groups allowed and showing symptoms.

He would have had to book though as if you haven't you are turned away. So maybe he lied when applying/booking online...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It seems tgat tgey HAVE met the 100k tests done so praise for MH and the team in getting this sorted.

Now we move up and up....and decide where and who we target the testing on and only now we have the testing capacity we can start to move into tracking and tracing and targeting tests there.

An interesting fact on the news...in terms of tests per million population we are ahead of S Korea who were held up as the testing superstars!"

Where is this information from? Do you have a link?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"It seems tgat tgey HAVE met the 100k tests done so praise for MH and the team in getting this sorted.

Now we move up and up....and decide where and who we target the testing on and only now we have the testing capacity we can start to move into tracking and tracing and targeting tests there.

An interesting fact on the news...in terms of tests per million population we are ahead of S Korea who were held up as the testing superstars!

Where is this information from? Do you have a link?"

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago

Burgess Hill & Birmingham

"81,611 tests completed yesterday, a rise of over 20,000 I think.

Tomorrow we find out if we reached 100,000, will it be reached?

If it reaches 99,999 will people complain, and shout about a government failure?"
The government has changed the way it is counting the number of Covid-19 tests carried out, in order to hit 100,000 tests per day, the Health Service Journal reports.

Department of Health and Social Care is now including tests that have been delivered to people’s homes in its figures.

https://www.hsj.co.uk/story.aspx?storyCode=7027544

Disgraceful again from the Ministry of Misinformation. It's like the 40 hospitals claim again.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Why shouldn't the home tests be counted?

They said 100,000 to be tested ......

Home tests count.

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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago

Burgess Hill & Birmingham

"Why shouldn't the home tests be counted?

They said 100,000 to be tested ......

Home tests count."
Because they haven't been tested? In order for them to be tested they have to checked in a laboratory. At best people have taken samples. A sample is not a test.

If this was the original definition of the test then by all means proceed. But the fact they had to change it in order to meet a self imposed target. Doesn't sound alarm bells for you?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

"Why shouldn't the home tests be counted?

They said 100,000 to be tested ......

Home tests count.Because they haven't been tested? In order for them to be tested they have to checked in a laboratory. At best people have taken samples. A sample is not a test.

If this was the original definition of the test then by all means proceed. But the fact they had to change it in order to meet a self imposed target. Doesn't sound alarm bells for you?"

No.

Home test is exactly the same as the 'station' test.

Swabs and then results.

You don't get your results at the station right away so that would just be SAMPLES too ......

Home tests count.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Why shouldn't the home tests be counted?

They said 100,000 to be tested ......

Home tests count.Because they haven't been tested? In order for them to be tested they have to checked in a laboratory. At best people have taken samples. A sample is not a test.

If this was the original definition of the test then by all means proceed. But the fact they had to change it in order to meet a self imposed target. Doesn't sound alarm bells for you?"

So you are complaining people can be tested at home?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s because Maggie thatcher personally let the virus out because the Tory party shave shares in rubber gloves. My mate down the pub said.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Do you know if they are counting the 'sent outs' as tested or the 'sent backs' as tested....... hmmmmmmmmm there is a point to be made ......

Find out someone...... is it the 'sent out's or the 'sent back's that get tested

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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago

Burgess Hill & Birmingham

"Why shouldn't the home tests be counted?

They said 100,000 to be tested ......

Home tests count.Because they haven't been tested? In order for them to be tested they have to checked in a laboratory. At best people have taken samples. A sample is not a test.

If this was the original definition of the test then by all means proceed. But the fact they had to change it in order to meet a self imposed target. Doesn't sound alarm bells for you?

No.

Home test is exactly the same as the 'station' test.

Swabs and then results.

You don't get your results at the station right away so that would just be SAMPLES too ......

Home tests count."
From the article itself:

"Previously, a test would be counted once the sample had been processed in laboratories. But this definition has been changed in the last few days, a senior source told HSJ."

Does that still not ring alarm bells for you?

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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago

Burgess Hill & Birmingham

"Why shouldn't the home tests be counted?

They said 100,000 to be tested ......

Home tests count.Because they haven't been tested? In order for them to be tested they have to checked in a laboratory. At best people have taken samples. A sample is not a test.

If this was the original definition of the test then by all means proceed. But the fact they had to change it in order to meet a self imposed target. Doesn't sound alarm bells for you?

So you are complaining people can be tested at home?"
Where is the complaint about the testing at home?

My complaint is about the change in the definition of said "test" so they can boost their own figures to meet their own self imposed target.

I have no issue with people being tested at home whatsoever especially since not everyone will be able to make to drive through testing sites.

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire

The minute any target is introduced perverse behaviour is created. That’s why there are stories of people going for tests when they don’t qualify or need to and it wouldn’t surprise me if some were refusing to be tested who needed to in order that they don’t contribute to any figures. Targets also tend to lead to creative accounting, at which the Civil Service are long standing experts.

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By *exy7Man
over a year ago

Bristol

I bet you Handcock (or Handjob if you prefer) will tell us he had met his target of 100 000 tests. It helps when you do the counting yourself. It’s a bit like unions telling us that 2 million people attended a demonstration. It always depends on who does the counting...

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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago

Burgess Hill & Birmingham

"The minute any target is introduced perverse behaviour is created. That’s why there are stories of people going for tests when they don’t qualify or need to and it wouldn’t surprise me if some were refusing to be tested who needed to in order that they don’t contribute to any figures. Targets also tend to lead to creative accounting, at which the Civil Service are long standing experts.

What Matt Hancock should have said is ‘we’ll do as many as we can’ but in reality this would never have been accepted. Now we’ve reached 100k, whether by hook or by crook, how about we just let them get on with it? "
I think the issue stems from the wording more than anything else. If he'd simply said we'd have the CAPACITY for 100K tests per day this milestone round his neck have been avoided. He could've layed the blame for not PROCESSING 100K tests per day elsewhere and not on the governments doorstep.

Have we not been letting them get on with it? I was unaware that scrutiny has caused inaction within the government.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

122,347

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m sure someone will find a fault in it.

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

cheshire

"122,347

Around 6200 new infections, so around 5% of those tested

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"I’m sure someone will find a fault in it. "

No doubt .....

I have to say having worked in hospital diagnostics for 30 years I was extremely sceptical

Well done everyone involved I'm sure there were a lot of sleepless nights.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"122,347

Very impressive, I didn’t think they would achieve the target but fair play to everyone involved

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

UK government are good at playing the numbers game,they are not to be believed

They could start by giving the true number of deaths per day

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By *al2001Man
over a year ago

kildare

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"UK government are good at playing the numbers game,they are not to be believed

They could start by giving the true number of deaths per day"

Didn't take long!

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By *atandasmileMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Do you know if they are counting the 'sent outs' as tested or the 'sent backs' as tested....... hmmmmmmmmm there is a point to be made ......

Find out someone...... is it the 'sent out's or the 'sent back's that get tested"

From the article that was posted:

"The Department of Health and Social Care is now including tests that have been posted or delivered to people’s homes in its figures. This means tests which are sent to people are counted before the recipient has provided and returned their sample to a laboratory.

HSJ understands that up to 50,000 of the tests that will be reported as having taken place on 30 April will actually represent the mailing or the agreeing to mail a home testing kit."

So if this information is correct then the new figures are counting any tests that have been sent out to homes, regardless of whether or not they have been returned, and around 50,000 of the reported number fall into this category.

I'd count that as not having been tested yet for quite a large proportion of the tests reported as "performed". So, yes, it's figure massaging to "fulfill" a promise.

On the other hand I'm not too worried about a day here and there on the practical front. The outcome is more or less the same unless either lots of people who were sent tests don't return them or there's actually a bottleneck at the labs which means that all those tests that are about to be returned can't be processed in a timely fashion.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"UK government are good at playing the numbers game,they are not to be believed

They could start by giving the true number of deaths per day"

They do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"UK government are good at playing the numbers game,they are not to be believed

They could start by giving the true number of deaths per day

Didn't take long!

what didn't take long ?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

The count now includes actual tests done, plus tests that were sent out on other days and someone said they'd do it and other tests not received too.

Plus a test a mate of someone known to a friend of the counter that he'd be reminded to do once hangover was cleared and he found his glasses.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Do you know if they are counting the 'sent outs' as tested or the 'sent backs' as tested....... hmmmmmmmmm there is a point to be made ......

Find out someone...... is it the 'sent out's or the 'sent back's that get tested

From the article that was posted:

HSJ understands that up to 50,000 of the tests that will be reported as having taken place on 30 April will actually represent the mailing or the agreeing to mail a home testing kit."

I'd count that as not having been tested yet for quite a large proportion of the tests reported as "performed". So, yes, it's figure massaging to "fulfill" a promise.

How many daily tests are they doing in Scotland?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hahaha always one

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Do you know if they are counting the 'sent outs' as tested or the 'sent backs' as tested....... hmmmmmmmmm there is a point to be made ......

Find out someone...... is it the 'sent out's or the 'sent back's that get tested"

From source, “the number of tests includes (i) tests processed through our labs, and (ii) tests sent to individuals at home or to satellite testing locations.”

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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago

Burgess Hill & Birmingham

"Do you know if they are counting the 'sent outs' as tested or the 'sent backs' as tested....... hmmmmmmmmm there is a point to be made ......

Find out someone...... is it the 'sent out's or the 'sent back's that get tested"
He confirms there were 122,347 tests across the UK in the 24 hours up to 09:00 BST (08:00 GMT) on 1 May. However, this figure includes tests which have been posted to recipients, but not yet carried out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Outstanding work by the government. But as we have seen some people can’t just say well done.

Add to the fact the Uk (backed by funding from the Uk government) are leading the world on finding a vaccine.

Well done to the Tory party.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I wonder if those tests that are included in the count but have not actually been tested yet will be added again when they are finally tested.

I always thought the count was from 5 o'clock to 5 o'clock for some reason, but now it seems to be 9 o'clock in the morning

However, they have got to nearly 80,000 tests so his goal nearly made it, lets hope they can keep it up now it is all set up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any ramp up in testing is brilliant, but manipulating figures is just dishonest. If it includes tests that are just sent and not returned, it's just really dishonest. George Orwell must be spinning in his grave...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd of had more respect for them if they had said 'we were close and had a bloody good go, but we will get there in the next few days' rather than change the goal posts to make the target.

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By *utualpleasure42Man
over a year ago

enter location here

How the f did I walk through Heathrow without anyone asking me any questions or testing me. No advise to stay indoors for 2 weeks.

Nothing. Not a word.

Why are the airports not locked down. Seems pretty dumb to me, and they are confused to why hundreds are still dying every day.

Pathetic. Clap for doris. I hope he does have clap. Tw@t.

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By *uttyjonnMan
over a year ago

cheshire

If they had said 80k tests I think most would have been ok with that

Regarding the ones sent out, I'm confused. Are they saying they do not get them back to their labs so it's the only way they can count them? Are home tests processed differently so they cannot keep tabs of them? Or is it just a swizz

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wrong that he did...unless in one of the groups allowed and showing symptoms.

He would have had to book though as if you haven't you are turned away. So maybe he lied when applying/booking online..."

He did not book a test via the gov page, he turned up at the testing area. He also doesn’t fit into any of the categories the government have stated either. Here lies my issue he’s been dishonest who knows what lies he spun as when I asked the army lads testing they said keyworkers are priority. He is not a key worker.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"How the f did I walk through Heathrow without anyone asking me any questions or testing me. No advise to stay indoors for 2 weeks.

Nothing. Not a word.

Why are the airports not locked down. Seems pretty dumb to me, and they are confused to why hundreds are still dying every day.

Pathetic. Clap for doris. I hope he does have clap. Tw@t. "

Why would you stay indoors for 14 days ?

You stay at home unless you have a reasonable excuse same as the rest of us lol

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"I wonder if those tests that are included in the count but have not actually been tested yet will be added again when they are finally tested.

I always thought the count was from 5 o'clock to 5 o'clock for some reason, but now it seems to be 9 o'clock in the morning

However, they have got to nearly 80,000 tests so his goal nearly made it, lets hope they can keep it up now it is all set up

From what I can see Public Health England have always provided daily testing figures for the previous 24hours up to 9am.

The sent out tests are only counted when they leave as this is the only point to count it accurately (when it’s returned it’s impossible to identify it as having been a sent out test)

This makes sense if they are counting tests performed (not to be mistaken with tests at labs being analysed and result obtained)

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"The count now includes actual tests done, plus tests that were sent out on other days and someone said they'd do it and other tests not received too.

Plus a test a mate of someone known to a friend of the counter that he'd be reminded to do once hangover was cleared and he found his glasses. "

WHAT ???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can anybody help with this? I've seen an email that was sent to Tory party members regarding testing. The email had a link that took the person to the booking site. It's alleged these numbers were included in the 'tests completed'. Anybody know of it's true?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s not true. I’ve checked the email and there’s nothing there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But hey. They won’t stop the rant.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Can anybody help with this? I've seen an email that was sent to Tory party members regarding testing. The email had a link that took the person to the booking site. It's alleged these numbers were included in the 'tests completed'. Anybody know of it's true? "

Can anyone help to identify who on here is a member of the Conservative party ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a member and that’s a load of made up nonsense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ive read huge amounts of BS on numerous threads over the past weeks....but I think this thread really has taken the biscuit!!

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By *utualpleasure42Man
over a year ago

enter location here

"How the f did I walk through Heathrow without anyone asking me any questions or testing me. No advise to stay indoors for 2 weeks.

Nothing. Not a word.

Why are the airports not locked down. Seems pretty dumb to me, and they are confused to why hundreds are still dying every day.

Pathetic. Clap for doris. I hope he does have clap. Tw@t.

Why would you stay indoors for 14 days ?

You stay at home unless you have a reasonable excuse same as the rest of us lol"

Not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. I came from a different country. If I was infected, I could easily go down the shops and infect everyone. Most other countries won't let you in of you're not a citizen. Maybe this is exacerbating the situation. Surely the government should close the airports.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"The media only ever want bad news and they try to manipulate everything like ppe shortages , death rates , lock down, lifting lock down anything for a story as long as it's spreading doom and gloom.

Then they have the odd happy story and manipulate the person or people to boost their ratings.

Never trust a journalist. "

You realise well over 20,000 people have died.

Its hardly the feel good story of the year.

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire

"I am a member and that’s a load of made up nonsense "

Don’t let the truth get in the way of an anti government conspiracy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a member and that’s a load of made up nonsense

Don’t let the truth get in the way of an anti government conspiracy "

Yep don’t forget to put your underpants on your head and put two pencil up your nose.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a member and that’s a load of made up nonsense

Don’t let the truth get in the way of an anti government conspiracy "

122 000 tests.... on the same basis it has alwas been counted by PHE....not by government.

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By *utualpleasure42Man
over a year ago

enter location here

F in the chat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a member and that’s a load of made up nonsense

Don’t let the truth get in the way of an anti government conspiracy

Yep don’t forget to put your underpants on your head and put two pencil up your nose. "

don't try this at home kids!

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"Do you know if they are counting the 'sent outs' as tested or the 'sent backs' as tested....... hmmmmmmmmm there is a point to be made ......

Find out someone...... is it the 'sent out's or the 'sent back's that get tested

From the article that was posted:

HSJ understands that up to 50,000 of the tests that will be reported as having taken place on 30 April will actually represent the mailing or the agreeing to mail a home testing kit."

I'd count that as not having been tested yet for quite a large proportion of the tests reported as "performed". So, yes, it's figure massaging to "fulfill" a promise.

Notice the wording 'HSJ understands that up to 50,000 of the tests', 'understands', 'up to', meaning it's not verified information and up to could be anything from 0 to 50k.

They have gone from feck all to at least 80k tests a day in a month, can't some of you acknowledge that while there have been mistakes, we don't have to keep bringing them up, we could focus on the positives and try to support each other and our government in doing a job that nobody ever expected they would have to do. Please remember, none of them have ever dealt with a situation like this from a position of power, they are learning as they go, try having abit of empathy for what others are going through. They are also worried about family and friends.

Failing that, can we have a positive covid forum and a negative one? Then we can float around on clouds in our positive one and the negative people can wallow in their own private swamp of despair.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"The media only ever want bad news and they try to manipulate everything like ppe shortages , death rates , lock down, lifting lock down anything for a story as long as it's spreading doom and gloom.

Then they have the odd happy story and manipulate the person or people to boost their ratings.

Never trust a journalist.

You realise well over 20,000 people have died.

Its hardly the feel good story of the year."

No but things are improving, just once could you post something positive? It's not brilliant but it's a worldwide crisis, it was never going to be sunshine and roses.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s all just a political rant. If they rolled out the cure tomorrow they would all moan that it wasn’t out sooner. You can’t please them. They turn every single thread on the virus section to a rant against the government.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"It’s all just a political rant. If they rolled out the cure tomorrow they would all moan that it wasn’t out sooner. You can’t please them. They turn every single thread on the virus section to a rant against the government."

Agreed, it's really very sad.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

I’m really pleased they have hit the target and made it more accessible for people to be tested. Now let’s carry on moving on to more and more tests

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agreed. Also it’s the same people over and over again.

I can’t understand why the government have not employed them all. After all they always know how to do things better....

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"The media only ever want bad news and they try to manipulate everything like ppe shortages , death rates , lock down, lifting lock down anything for a story as long as it's spreading doom and gloom.

Then they have the odd happy story and manipulate the person or people to boost their ratings.

Never trust a journalist.

You realise well over 20,000 people have died.

Its hardly the feel good story of the year.

No but things are improving, just once could you post something positive? It's not brilliant but it's a worldwide crisis, it was never going to be sunshine and roses. "

I've said from day 1 the NHS and careers are doing an amazing job.If anyone deserves credit its them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s amusing all that happens is everyone dismisses any ‘evidence’ against their beliefs. And all the ‘evidence’ is newspaper articles, that’s not evidence. I want to hear it from the person the press got it from. The press is a business and controversy creates cash.

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire

I’ve followed far too many and contributed in quite a few of these threads but tonight has finally convinced me of what I suspected all along.

There are people on here who are so consumed by their hatred of the Conservative Party they’ve become obsessed with wanting the government to fail. They don’t want this virus to be beaten so they can say they told us so.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"It’s amusing all that happens is everyone dismisses any ‘evidence’ against their beliefs. And all the ‘evidence’ is newspaper articles, that’s not evidence. I want to hear it from the person the press got it from. The press is a business and controversy creates cash. "

Find the primary source and decide for yourself.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"The media only ever want bad news and they try to manipulate everything like ppe shortages , death rates , lock down, lifting lock down anything for a story as long as it's spreading doom and gloom.

Then they have the odd happy story and manipulate the person or people to boost their ratings.

Never trust a journalist.

You realise well over 20,000 people have died.

Its hardly the feel good story of the year.

No but things are improving, just once could you post something positive? It's not brilliant but it's a worldwide crisis, it was never going to be sunshine and roses.

I've said from day 1 the NHS and careers are doing an amazing job.If anyone deserves credit its them.

They are getting credit. There are millions of other people that are also keeping the country running, including our government.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I’ve followed far too many and contributed in quite a few of these threads but tonight has finally convinced me of what I suspected all along.

Has anyone even inferred that?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"The media only ever want bad news and they try to manipulate everything like ppe shortages , death rates , lock down, lifting lock down anything for a story as long as it's spreading doom and gloom.

Then they have the odd happy story and manipulate the person or people to boost their ratings.

Never trust a journalist.

You realise well over 20,000 people have died.

Its hardly the feel good story of the year.

No but things are improving, just once could you post something positive? It's not brilliant but it's a worldwide crisis, it was never going to be sunshine and roses.

I've said from day 1 the NHS and careers are doing an amazing job.If anyone deserves credit its them.

They are getting credit. There are millions of other people that are also keeping the country running, including our government. "

I'm not getting into an argument..but in the last week alone there have been threads criticising those tic toc videos and the ones on panorama were called agitators.

My sympathy and gratitude will go to those who truly deserve it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes.....in all but those exact words...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’ve followed far too many and contributed in quite a few of these threads but tonight has finally convinced me of what I suspected all along.

Has anyone even inferred that?"

It come across that way from a fair few in here.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Yes.....in all but those exact words..."

Who?I've skimmed it and not seen anyone say that?people have queried the testing figs thats all.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"The media only ever want bad news and they try to manipulate everything like ppe shortages , death rates , lock down, lifting lock down anything for a story as long as it's spreading doom and gloom.

Then they have the odd happy story and manipulate the person or people to boost their ratings.

Never trust a journalist.

You realise well over 20,000 people have died.

Its hardly the feel good story of the year.

No but things are improving, just once could you post something positive? It's not brilliant but it's a worldwide crisis, it was never going to be sunshine and roses.

I've said from day 1 the NHS and careers are doing an amazing job.If anyone deserves credit its them.

They are getting credit. There are millions of other people that are also keeping the country running, including our government.

I'm not getting into an argument..but in the last week alone there have been threads criticising those tic toc videos and the ones on panorama were called agitators.

My sympathy and gratitude will go to those who truly deserve it."

Who's arguing? I'm letting you know that there are other people involved in keeping the country going and they deserve recognition too, regardless of your political stance.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"The media only ever want bad news and they try to manipulate everything like ppe shortages , death rates , lock down, lifting lock down anything for a story as long as it's spreading doom and gloom.

Then they have the odd happy story and manipulate the person or people to boost their ratings.

Never trust a journalist.

You realise well over 20,000 people have died.

Its hardly the feel good story of the year.

No but things are improving, just once could you post something positive? It's not brilliant but it's a worldwide crisis, it was never going to be sunshine and roses.

I've said from day 1 the NHS and careers are doing an amazing job.If anyone deserves credit its them.

They are getting credit. There are millions of other people that are also keeping the country running, including our government.

I'm not getting into an argument..but in the last week alone there have been threads criticising those tic toc videos and the ones on panorama were called agitators.

My sympathy and gratitude will go to those who truly deserve it.

Who's arguing? I'm letting you know that there are other people involved in keeping the country going and they deserve recognition too, regardless of your political stance. "

Fair enough

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’ve followed far too many and contributed in quite a few of these threads but tonight has finally convinced me of what I suspected all along.

Hit the nail on the head. Just thinking what else we can fabricate on the government. My mountain bike had a flat tyre. Typical Tories fabricating pot hole numbers.

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