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"Love your grandma, doesn't eat Chinese food " God love her, she is 90 ![]() | |||
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"My grandmother told me this is worse than the war But then she also said she won't catch it because she doesn't eat Chinese food ![]() hahaha I've had someone else tell me they cant get it for that reason today x | |||
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"Tell that to someone who’s business is struggling or someone who’s loved ones are in hospital seriously ill or attending a loved ones funeral and only a small number can attend some have a reason to Whinge " Tbh I don't think op is referring to people who have genuine reasons to complain. I think it's directed at "those" people who are the selfish (hopefully) minority who's attitude is fuck everyone else,no one can tell me what to do..... | |||
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"Tell that to someone who’s business is struggling or someone who’s loved ones are in hospital seriously ill or attending a loved ones funeral and only a small number can attend some have a reason to Whinge Tbh I don't think op is referring to people who have genuine reasons to complain. I think it's directed at "those" people who are the selfish (hopefully) minority who's attitude is fuck everyone else,no one can tell me what to do....." maybe perhaps I’m just overreacting a tad bloody virus wish it would bigger off as I can’t go to the pub ![]() | |||
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"Its only been just under 5 weeks...! I mean the "lockdown" which has caused changes in our lives. The older generation put up with 6 years of WW2. Many countries in Europe under a much stricter lockdown under the Nazi regime. Come on chaps and chapesses. Stiff upoer lip and all that...." I really don't agree. During the war life went on as usual for most people. They were allowed to visit houses, cinemas, theatres etc . They were allowed to have holidays. It's worse NOW. People are well and truly isolated. Especially if they live alone. Almost all businesses have ceased to exist. Many wont return. The dole queues will be longer than the 30's This will last for a good while yet. New born babies will be toddlers and the death toll will be greater than WW2. More lives are lost each day to coronavirus than any war ever killed. Some people need to read HISTORY instead of popular history. Take of your rose tinted specs about the war years and people of the past. I think today's population are showing grit and spirit and kindess...... good on all the chaps n chapesses. | |||
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"Its only been just under 5 weeks...! I mean the "lockdown" which has caused changes in our lives. The older generation put up with 6 years of WW2. Many countries in Europe under a much stricter lockdown under the Nazi regime. Come on chaps and chapesses. Stiff upoer lip and all that.... I really don't agree. During the war life went on as usual for most people. They were allowed to visit houses, cinemas, theatres etc . They were allowed to have holidays. It's worse NOW. People are well and truly isolated. Especially if they live alone. Almost all businesses have ceased to exist. Many wont return. The dole queues will be longer than the 30's This will last for a good while yet. New born babies will be toddlers and the death toll will be greater than WW2. More lives are lost each day to coronavirus than any war ever killed. Some people need to read HISTORY instead of popular history. Take of your rose tinted specs about the war years and people of the past. I think today's population are showing grit and spirit and kindess...... good on all the chaps n chapesses." erm 75million people died in ww2 or so I thought ![]() | |||
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"Its only been just under 5 weeks...! I mean the "lockdown" which has caused changes in our lives. The older generation put up with 6 years of WW2. Many countries in Europe under a much stricter lockdown under the Nazi regime. Come on chaps and chapesses. Stiff upoer lip and all that...." It's 2020 not 1940. Not just the uk but the world is a different place Why does the "war" get rolled out everytime the uk needs to justify austerity or restrictions on the public. Men went to war to protect our liabilities and freedoms not be poster child for social and dictorial control. The irony is the only dictatorship left in Europe is Belarus. And they have no lockdown and no restrictions at all And as for a stiff upper lip...that probably explains half the stigmatism and mental health problems in the uk. England... Its OK to feel. And right now I think I a lot of people are trying to get their head around really tough times ahead | |||
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"My grandmother told me this is worse than the war But then she also said she won't catch it because she doesn't eat Chinese food ![]() My grandad absolutely loved any type of mouldy cheese, or even cheese that had just gone mouldy. He ate it every day of his life. He rang me up one day to say that he had heard on the radio that eating mouldy cheese could take years off your life, so he wasn't going to eat it anymore. He was 88 ![]() | |||
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"Suck it up. I lost my nan last week and I can't go to the funeral. A couple of right wing greedy capitalists want the money stream to start flowing and are using buzz words like freedom and liberty to get us all worked up. But remember when it comes to real freedom and liberty, they are the first to find ways to take them away from us." ![]() | |||
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"Its only been just under 5 weeks...! I mean the "lockdown" which has caused changes in our lives. The older generation put up with 6 years of WW2. Many countries in Europe under a much stricter lockdown under the Nazi regime. Come on chaps and chapesses. Stiff upoer lip and all that...." If we think the halcyon days of ww2 was a shining example of etc etc and carry on we are pretty much deluding ourselves.. There were still the dregs being shit bags, thieving etc and all that goes alongside most of us normal types getting on with it.. And its been the same most likely in all civilisations during times of war and crisis.. So whilst this is unpredictable and unprecedented in our lifetime and those of our grans we will plod on and get through it.. In some ways this could be bigger than anything even our parents and grans went through and part of getting through it might be to try not to look too far ahead or too deeply into it, if there is that luxury.. | |||
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"More lives are lost each day to coronavirus than any war ever killed." Whilst I agree completely with the rest of your post I must take exception to this one statement. Although records are not complete the estimates for dead in WW1 range from between 17.5 and 40 million, and WW2 is between 60 and 120 million people. The mean average is 23.5 and 84 million respectively. Up to now 216 thousand people have died of this virus. Tragic though this figure is, and I am not belittling the pain this has caused, it does not compare with the WW figures above, or other comparable wars. | |||
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"Its only been just under 5 weeks...! I mean the "lockdown" which has caused changes in our lives. The older generation put up with 6 years of WW2. Many countries in Europe under a much stricter lockdown under the Nazi regime. Come on chaps and chapesses. Stiff upoer lip and all that.... I really don't agree. During the war life went on as usual for most people. They were allowed to visit houses, cinemas, theatres etc . They were allowed to have holidays. It's worse NOW. People are well and truly isolated. Especially if they live alone. Almost all businesses have ceased to exist. Many wont return. The dole queues will be longer than the 30's This will last for a good while yet. New born babies will be toddlers and the death toll will be greater than WW2. More lives are lost each day to coronavirus than any war ever killed. Some people need to read HISTORY instead of popular history. Take of your rose tinted specs about the war years and people of the past. I think today's population are showing grit and spirit and kindess...... good on all the chaps n chapesses." And 99% of the time you knew who the enemy was...with this you havent got a clue. | |||
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"Tell that to someone who’s business is struggling or someone who’s loved ones are in hospital seriously ill or attending a loved ones funeral and only a small number can attend some have a reason to Whinge Tbh I don't think op is referring to people who have genuine reasons to complain. I think it's directed at "those" people who are the selfish (hopefully) minority who's attitude is fuck everyone else,no one can tell me what to do....." Got it in one! | |||
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"Its only been just under 5 weeks...! I mean the "lockdown" which has caused changes in our lives. The older generation put up with 6 years of WW2. Many countries in Europe under a much stricter lockdown under the Nazi regime. Come on chaps and chapesses. Stiff upoer lip and all that.... I really don't agree. During the war life went on as usual for most people. They were allowed to visit houses, cinemas, theatres etc . They were allowed to have holidays. It's worse NOW. People are well and truly isolated. Especially if they live alone. Almost all businesses have ceased to exist. Many wont return. The dole queues will be longer than the 30's This will last for a good while yet. New born babies will be toddlers and the death toll will be greater than WW2. More lives are lost each day to coronavirus than any war ever killed. Some people need to read HISTORY instead of popular history. Take of your rose tinted specs about the war years and people of the past. I think today's population are showing grit and spirit and kindess...... good on all the chaps n chapesses." I thought world war 2 history was not being taught in schools, as it was far too depressing. That is according to a reality celebrity ![]() | |||
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"Its only been just under 5 weeks...! I mean the "lockdown" which has caused changes in our lives. The older generation put up with 6 years of WW2. Many countries in Europe under a much stricter lockdown under the Nazi regime. Come on chaps and chapesses. Stiff upoer lip and all that...." ![]() | |||
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"Tell that to someone who’s business is struggling or someone who’s loved ones are in hospital seriously ill or attending a loved ones funeral and only a small number can attend some have a reason to Whinge " Typical first thing you mention is money and greed greed,an example of how sick our society is,maybe this virus will be a blessing if it teaches people like you a few values | |||
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"According to Wikipedia 70,000 british civilians lost their lives in WW2, currently we are on 20,000 bit of a sobering thought. " In comparison, 20,000 soldiers died on the first day of the Battle of the Somme in 1916. Even more of a sobering thought. | |||
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"Its only been just under 5 weeks...! I mean the "lockdown" which has caused changes in our lives. The older generation put up with 6 years of WW2. Many countries in Europe under a much stricter lockdown under the Nazi regime. Come on chaps and chapesses. Stiff upoer lip and all that...." Yeh but during WW2 at least everyone got to get out shaggin... | |||
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"Exactly OP. I think that there are a lot of people who really need to wake up and realise how pathetic they're being. There are a lot of people who would be totally fucked in the event of Nuclear fallout. Can you imagine it?" Dafuq are you on about? It's clear that most people on this site belong on Benefits Street. It's people like me, young and healthy who's worked my ass off to build a successful business over years only to have it fucked over for a virus with a mortality rate of ~0.1%. People die, that's a fact of life. The sooner we realise this bullshit the sooner we can restart our economy and stop the complete loss of people's livelihoods. | |||
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"According to Wikipedia 70,000 british civilians lost their lives in WW2, currently we are on 20,000 bit of a sobering thought. In comparison, 20,000 soldiers died on the first day of the Battle of the Somme in 1916. Even more of a sobering thought." And that was not even the worst of it the French lost 27000 men in 24 hours on August 22 1914 | |||
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"Exactly OP. I think that there are a lot of people who really need to wake up and realise how pathetic they're being. There are a lot of people who would be totally fucked in the event of Nuclear fallout. Can you imagine it?" Wouldn’t everyone be fucked in the event of a Nuclear war. Lots of Russians died because of Chernobyl. And what has nuclear fall out got to do with Covid lockdown ????? | |||
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"Exactly OP. I think that there are a lot of people who really need to wake up and realise how pathetic they're being. There are a lot of people who would be totally fucked in the event of Nuclear fallout. Can you imagine it? Dafuq are you on about? It's clear that most people on this site belong on Benefits Street. It's people like me, young and healthy who's worked my ass off to build a successful business over years only to have it fucked over for a virus with a mortality rate of ~0.1%. People die, that's a fact of life. The sooner we realise this bullshit the sooner we can restart our economy and stop the complete loss of people's livelihoods." Are things different for you then? Because you're young and healthy? You dont have extended family? Friends? Work colleagues? | |||
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"Exactly OP. I think that there are a lot of people who really need to wake up and realise how pathetic they're being. There are a lot of people who would be totally fucked in the event of Nuclear fallout. Can you imagine it? Dafuq are you on about? It's clear that most people on this site belong on Benefits Street. It's people like me, young and healthy who's worked my ass off to build a successful business over years only to have it fucked over for a virus with a mortality rate of ~0.1%. People die, that's a fact of life. The sooner we realise this bullshit the sooner we can restart our economy and stop the complete loss of people's livelihoods." Fuck everyone else then yeah? Basically is what you are saying. You sound lovely. | |||
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"Exactly OP. I think that there are a lot of people who really need to wake up and realise how pathetic they're being. There are a lot of people who would be totally fucked in the event of Nuclear fallout. Can you imagine it? Wouldn’t everyone be fucked in the event of a Nuclear war. Lots of Russians died because of Chernobyl. And what has nuclear fall out got to do with Covid lockdown ?????" This I thought what a f##king comparison to make. Of course most people would be fucked from nuclear fallout . Unless you are a billionaire with a underground bunker. | |||
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"Exactly OP. I think that there are a lot of people who really need to wake up and realise how pathetic they're being. There are a lot of people who would be totally fucked in the event of Nuclear fallout. Can you imagine it? Dafuq are you on about? It's clear that most people on this site belong on Benefits Street. It's people like me, young and healthy who's worked my ass off to build a successful business over years only to have it fucked over for a virus with a mortality rate of ~0.1%. People die, that's a fact of life. The sooner we realise this bullshit the sooner we can restart our economy and stop the complete loss of people's livelihoods. Are things different for you then? Because you're young and healthy? You dont have extended family? Friends? Work colleagues?" Destroying the economy to give a 90 year old grandmother with underlying health conditions an extra 6 months to live is not okay. | |||
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"Exactly OP. I think that there are a lot of people who really need to wake up and realise how pathetic they're being. There are a lot of people who would be totally fucked in the event of Nuclear fallout. Can you imagine it? Dafuq are you on about? It's clear that most people on this site belong on Benefits Street. It's people like me, young and healthy who's worked my ass off to build a successful business over years only to have it fucked over for a virus with a mortality rate of ~0.1%. People die, that's a fact of life. The sooner we realise this bullshit the sooner we can restart our economy and stop the complete loss of people's livelihoods. Are things different for you then? Because you're young and healthy? You dont have extended family? Friends? Work colleagues? Destroying the economy to give a 90 year old grandmother with underlying health conditions an extra 6 months to live is not okay. " Clearly you havent been watching the news, my love | |||
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"Exactly OP. I think that there are a lot of people who really need to wake up and realise how pathetic they're being. There are a lot of people who would be totally fucked in the event of Nuclear fallout. Can you imagine it? Dafuq are you on about? It's clear that most people on this site belong on Benefits Street. It's people like me, young and healthy who's worked my ass off to build a successful business over years only to have it fucked over for a virus with a mortality rate of ~0.1%. People die, that's a fact of life. The sooner we realise this bullshit the sooner we can restart our economy and stop the complete loss of people's livelihoods. Are things different for you then? Because you're young and healthy? You dont have extended family? Friends? Work colleagues? Destroying the economy to give a 90 year old grandmother with underlying health conditions an extra 6 months to live is not okay. Clearly you havent been watching the news, my love" I suggest you do you own research and stop relying on BBC propaganda. | |||
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"Exactly OP. I think that there are a lot of people who really need to wake up and realise how pathetic they're being. There are a lot of people who would be totally fucked in the event of Nuclear fallout. Can you imagine it? Dafuq are you on about? It's clear that most people on this site belong on Benefits Street. It's people like me, young and healthy who's worked my ass off to build a successful business over years only to have it fucked over for a virus with a mortality rate of ~0.1%. People die, that's a fact of life. The sooner we realise this bullshit the sooner we can restart our economy and stop the complete loss of people's livelihoods. Are things different for you then? Because you're young and healthy? You dont have extended family? Friends? Work colleagues? Destroying the economy to give a 90 year old grandmother with underlying health conditions an extra 6 months to live is not okay. " I recommend that you take a bit more notice to what actually is going on, before you make yourself look even worse than your orginal comment does | |||
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"More lives are lost each day to coronavirus than any war ever killed. Whilst I agree completely with the rest of your post I must take exception to this one statement. Although records are not complete the estimates for dead in WW1 range from between 17.5 and 40 million, and WW2 is between 60 and 120 million people. The mean average is 23.5 and 84 million respectively. Up to now 216 thousand people have died of this virus. Tragic though this figure is, and I am not belittling the pain this has caused, it does not compare with the WW figures above, or other comparable wars. " I'm glad you answered this I literally ch0ked on my coffee when I read her statement. Talk about ignorance of history! Almost 60,000 soldiers were casualties on the 1st day of Battle of the Somme WW1 of which nearly 20,000 died. The Somme Offensive, caused the loss of more than 1.2 million lives from both the British-French Empires and German Empire. As sad as the death figures for covid19 are they are a drop in the ocean compared to the lives lost to wars. KJ x | |||
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"Exactly OP. I think that there are a lot of people who really need to wake up and realise how pathetic they're being. There are a lot of people who would be totally fucked in the event of Nuclear fallout. Can you imagine it? Dafuq are you on about? It's clear that most people on this site belong on Benefits Street. It's people like me, young and healthy who's worked my ass off to build a successful business over years only to have it fucked over for a virus with a mortality rate of ~0.1%. People die, that's a fact of life. The sooner we realise this bullshit the sooner we can restart our economy and stop the complete loss of people's livelihoods. Are things different for you then? Because you're young and healthy? You dont have extended family? Friends? Work colleagues? Destroying the economy to give a 90 year old grandmother with underlying health conditions an extra 6 months to live is not okay. I recommend that you take a bit more notice to what actually is going on, before you make yourself look even worse than your orginal comment does" What you need to realise is that the virus isn't going anywhere in the same way that HIV is still very much around. We just need to learn to live with it and yes unfortunately that means that some lives (all with underlying health conditions so far) will be lost. Coronaviruses were first discovered in the 1930s and in 90 years there hasn't been a single vaccine for them so don't assume for a minute that there will be a miracle vaccine soon and we can all go back to living our normal precovid lives. | |||
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"My grandmother told me this is worse than the war But then she also said she won't catch it because she doesn't eat Chinese food ![]() My local Chinese takeaway opened today, so I was soon in, getting mine. The food, not the virus ![]() | |||
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"Tell that to someone who’s business is struggling or someone who’s loved ones are in hospital seriously ill or attending a loved ones funeral and only a small number can attend some have a reason to Whinge Typical first thing you mention is money and greed greed,an example of how sick our society is,maybe this virus will be a blessing if it teaches people like you a few values" ![]() | |||
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"More lives are lost each day to coronavirus than any war ever killed. Whilst I agree completely with the rest of your post I must take exception to this one statement. Although records are not complete the estimates for dead in WW1 range from between 17.5 and 40 million, and WW2 is between 60 and 120 million people. The mean average is 23.5 and 84 million respectively. Up to now 216 thousand people have died of this virus. Tragic though this figure is, and I am not belittling the pain this has caused, it does not compare with the WW figures above, or other comparable wars. " Thank you. If you read the statement above ......... It says more are lost EACH DAY to coronavirus than were lost in a war. So there is little point in you quoting the final death toll for entire wars that extended across years. But thanks for the input and the figures Spanish flu killed about 50,000,000 worldwide and 228,000 alone in Britain. | |||
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"Exactly OP. I think that there are a lot of people who really need to wake up and realise how pathetic they're being. There are a lot of people who would be totally fucked in the event of Nuclear fallout. Can you imagine it? Wouldn’t everyone be fucked in the event of a Nuclear war. Lots of Russians died because of Chernobyl. And what has nuclear fall out got to do with Covid lockdown ?????" It was ukrainians and belarusians that suffered with chernobyl...need to learn geography...Chernobyl is located in ukraine close to Belarus..1000s died no one will say how many or what the long term.effects of radiation exposure is doing to them.. | |||
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"I've just misquoted myself here is the original sentence. More lives are lost each day to coronavirus than any war ever killed. I meant daily death rates. " I hate myself for adding to this but I want to save someone the time of coming back and quoting 'battle' figures...... those figures were exceptions not rules. | |||
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"I've just misquoted myself here is the original sentence. More lives are lost each day to coronavirus than any war ever killed. I meant daily death rates. " Thank you for the clarification. However, 80 million divided by 2190 (the number of days in the six years of the war) = just over 36,500 deaths per day or 255,000 in an average week. COVID deaths since the start of the pandemic several months ago is less than the mean average for one week of WW2. | |||
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"Most people are fully supportive of the restrictions and it's generally conservative politicians who have been pushing to get it lifted, whinging about needing liberty, from remote country estates. Polls this week want it extended until it's safer" Life will never be safe | |||
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"Thanks. Where is the figure 80million from ?" Approx casualties of ww2. Some what disputed but range between 50 m and 100m. Various historical sources. 20m Chinese alone apparently | |||
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"Thanks. Where is the figure 80million from ?" 80 million is the established figures for total deaths attributed to the 2nd World War. Almost all studies agree the range is between 70 - 85 million. As the poster showed based on the length of the war that averages to far higher daily death figures in WW2 than covid19. KJ x | |||
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"Can i just clarify the point of my initial post. I am NOT talking about people who have lost loved ones, front line workers, those with genuine mental health issues etc. Many of whom are NOT whinging. Its the countless others who are devastated because they can't go for a pint to the pub or are missing "the match".....trivia compared to what's going on out there...." Maybe that would help with their mental health, you won't know that | |||
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