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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Even with the bursary returned, I wonder if applications to nursing (and paramedics/physios and occupational therapists) will start to decrease further now that the jobs have health risks/death assigned to them. Also, not forgetting doctors and health care assistants.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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It could have a bearing. I imagine it depends on how they personally risk assess it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I bloody hope not, by christ we need these people. I couldn't do it, hats off to every single one of em!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the biggest struggle will be social health care workers as most are on or just above minimum wage.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

I don’t think it will have any bearing on those who want to go in to the profession.

You either want to or you don’t .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I think the biggest struggle will be social health care workers as most are on or just above minimum wage."

You mean support workers/carers? Health care assistants and social care support workers (employed by councils) are paid a little better than agency carers in general.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the biggest struggle will be social health care workers as most are on or just above minimum wage.

You mean support workers/carers? Health care assistants and social care support workers (employed by councils) are paid a little better than agency carers in general. "

Yeah mainly the agency workers on zero hours...but the system is set up to force them into this work if they aren't qualified for anything else. But as you said it now is a big risk for them sadly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think it will have any bearing on those who want to go in to the profession.

You either want to or you don’t ."

very true

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I don’t think it will have any bearing on those who want to go in to the profession.

You either want to or you don’t ."

That's not typical of how the real world works though. We tend to be most influenced in our behaviour by things that are very recent, rather than something being an abstract concept being assessed.

The bursary alone is also less than people were previously supported financially

Some may delay studying until there's potentially a virus, possibly influenced by family.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I don’t think it will have any bearing on those who want to go in to the profession.

You either want to or you don’t .

That's not typical of how the real world works though. We tend to be most influenced in our behaviour by things that are very recent, rather than something being an abstract concept being assessed.

The bursary alone is also less than people were previously supported financially

Some may delay studying until there's potentially a virus, possibly influenced by family. "

Until there's a vaccine

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I don’t think it will have any bearing on those who want to go in to the profession.

You either want to or you don’t .

That's not typical of how the real world works though. We tend to be most influenced in our behaviour by things that are very recent, rather than something being an abstract concept being assessed.

The bursary alone is also less than people were previously supported financially

Some may delay studying until there's potentially a virus, possibly influenced by family. "

Previously the bursary was a guaranteed £1000 grant. The remainder means tested if live with a partner or parents. It was quite generous if you were a single parent with a child element. I don't know anymore about the bursary than in the govt ads.

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

I think a lot of BAME individuals will want the coronavirus medical inquiry into their unusual vulnerability before they firsy enter the medical profession in either care or doctors placements as well

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"Even with the bursary returned, I wonder if applications to nursing (and paramedics/physios and occupational therapists) will start to decrease further now that the jobs have health risks/death assigned to them. Also, not forgetting doctors and health care assistants. "

I really do not think so. Look at all the people who signed up as volunteers.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Even with the bursary returned, I wonder if applications to nursing (and paramedics/physios and occupational therapists) will start to decrease further now that the jobs have health risks/death assigned to them. Also, not forgetting doctors and health care assistants.

I really do not think so. Look at all the people who signed up as volunteers."

Are any working the frontline?

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"Even with the bursary returned, I wonder if applications to nursing (and paramedics/physios and occupational therapists) will start to decrease further now that the jobs have health risks/death assigned to them. Also, not forgetting doctors and health care assistants.

I really do not think so. Look at all the people who signed up as volunteers.

Are any working the frontline? "

My friend is working between 3 local hospitals all with the virus present.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"Even with the bursary returned, I wonder if applications to nursing (and paramedics/physios and occupational therapists) will start to decrease further now that the jobs have health risks/death assigned to them. Also, not forgetting doctors and health care assistants.

I really do not think so. Look at all the people who signed up as volunteers.

Are any working the frontline?

My friend is working between 3 local hospitals all with the virus present."

Others are working in care homes and as home carers all will be at risk.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Even with the bursary returned, I wonder if applications to nursing (and paramedics/physios and occupational therapists) will start to decrease further now that the jobs have health risks/death assigned to them. Also, not forgetting doctors and health care assistants.

I really do not think so. Look at all the people who signed up as volunteers.

Are any working the frontline?

My friend is working between 3 local hospitals all with the virus present."

Not quite the same as working in A&E, itu or covid wards.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"Even with the bursary returned, I wonder if applications to nursing (and paramedics/physios and occupational therapists) will start to decrease further now that the jobs have health risks/death assigned to them. Also, not forgetting doctors and health care assistants.

I really do not think so. Look at all the people who signed up as volunteers.

Are any working the frontline?

My friend is working between 3 local hospitals all with the virus present.

Not quite the same as working in A&E, itu or covid wards. "

But not all nurses and Drs work there either so i think this will not stop folk from following their desired careers.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"Even with the bursary returned, I wonder if applications to nursing (and paramedics/physios and occupational therapists) will start to decrease further now that the jobs have health risks/death assigned to them. Also, not forgetting doctors and health care assistants.

I really do not think so. Look at all the people who signed up as volunteers.

Are any working the frontline?

My friend is working between 3 local hospitals all with the virus present.

Not quite the same as working in A&E, itu or covid wards.

But not all nurses and Drs work there either so i think this will not stop folk from following their desired careers."

I do not think you are really aware of the how many deaths have occurred in care homes and the dangers the staff are putting themself in by working there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don’t think it will have any bearing on those who want to go in to the profession.

You either want to or you don’t ."

I know someone who is a doctor in a hospital and seeing so many of her colleagues get sick with the virus she has said she will be assessing her options when it all calms down ... you might be surprised hoe it had impacted peoples want to go into the profession

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Even with the bursary returned, I wonder if applications to nursing (and paramedics/physios and occupational therapists) will start to decrease further now that the jobs have health risks/death assigned to them. Also, not forgetting doctors and health care assistants. "
I think the opposite there will a big recruitment drive and more money as so far 2.000,000 routine ops have been missed and have to be done before getting back to the bad situation we where in before

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"I don’t think it will have any bearing on those who want to go in to the profession.

You either want to or you don’t .

That's not typical of how the real world works though. We tend to be most influenced in our behaviour by things that are very recent, rather than something being an abstract concept being assessed.

The bursary alone is also less than people were previously supported financially

Some may delay studying until there's potentially a virus, possibly influenced by family. "

If true then this attitude could be seen to be at odds with perhaps one of the main reasons for going in to the profession .

Surprising

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There were issues recruiting before all this so unsure how it might affect that, it could discourage people or conversely, make more want to sign up. It's a funny old world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been a qualfied nurse for 18 years and never before have I not wanted to nurse. Working with patients who are covid +ve everyday, seeing them die the most horrific death without loved ones, seeing colleagues die of the same virus whilst just doing their job and feeling guilty for putting my family at risk, has brought a normally tough old bird to tears on many a day.

I will seriously consider retraining and leaving the profession once this is over x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There were issues recruiting before all this so unsure how it might affect that, it could discourage people or conversely, make more want to sign up. It's a funny old world."

Might be a bit of both, people who didn't experience it wanting to sign up and people living it now wanting out

I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some form of ptsd (if that is the right term) for some of the doctors and nurses on these wards just now

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