FabSwingers.com forum: When did they end the lockdown

By *ools and the brain OP Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

In past two days Ive seen a significant increase in people about,lots of people having guests arrive at houses locally,a huge group of around 30teens and adults playing frisbee and sitting around smoking wxxd in a small park near us.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?"

This is the way lockdown will end. We will gradually slide out of it. Businesses are starting to reopen, rules round timeout gradually relax. People on social media aren’t busy running round condemning everyone. Generally, we’ve reached the limit of lockdown.

And in fact that has to be better than a sudden opening of everything and people rushing out all in one go.

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?"
It's patchy but the trend is clear. High Street footfall is 76% down on last year (as at Thursday 23rd) but is up 7% on the previous week.

There are no measures for the kind of stuff you describe but my guess is people have given up reporting it. ddly government have a shit load of data on traffic and the like, but aren't publishing it. If they did use the data, it would reassure people that the majority are still being compliant (footfall being down 76% year on year) and that uptick on the previous week could easily be explained as people who deferrd essential journeys giving in and making them once they knew lockdown was being extended.

Government don't trust us with data, apparently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BnQ were never told to clise. Hardware and Builders merchants were on the allowed list all the time. Many chose to close until they could sort out social distancing and staff safety. BnQ have done that now so have re-opened many of their stores.

As for gangs of teens....report them if you wish....still not allowed.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

Yes it's very busy around Liverpool.

It infuriates me! People go back to normal, the new cases remain high, thus the death rate remains high and we'll be in this limbo for longer. Our business will be closed for longer. I kind of hate people right now

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South

"BnQ were never told to clise. Hardware and Builders merchants were on the allowed list all the time. Many chose to close until they could sort out social distancing and staff safety. BnQ have done that now so have re-opened many of their stores.

As for gangs of teens....report them if you wish....still not allowed."

In fact B&Q actually announced a week ago (I think - I may have lost track of time a little bit!) that they were reopening around 15 stores. There was a list of which stores published on various news sites.

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By *rant4Man
over a year ago

South Wales & London

It's been increasing for the past week or so. People i know of. Not friends or family were posting up pictures of them having a BBQ last night with about 10-12 people. It infuriates me. I'm not one to report it. But it does make you feel like it sometimes. Just selfish. I don't think the press are helping mind with what their stories

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?"
Nope dont see anything like that where i live.

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By *erry bull1Man
over a year ago

doncaster

After seeing videos of people on Westminster bridge clapping on Thursday night , I thought the lockdown in London had ended , there was no social distancing there

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

We have noticed so much more traffic on the roads near us, (we live in the countryside) incl motorbikes and cars with passengers in.

Shops and businesses are slowly opening back up too.

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

Yes there are more people out and about, but that's because more businesses are figuring out how to remain open with social distancing in place.

The dips in traffic on the daily briefings, surprise surprise at weekends, when people who are travelling to work (because they are allowed to) are at home.

Groups in parks, families having visitors, houses having bbqs, are all happening by us too. But let them spread the virus amongst themselves. When the ambulance comes around I'll be the first to let the paramedics know what they've been up to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?"

It does seem that way , have seen such things you’ve mentioned in our area also

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Been like it for the past few weeks by me , the road outside is full all day long , lots of kids out on bikes , the d*unks are back outside by the tram lines , think the hot weather has played a part

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South

It's cooling down now and there's around a week of rain coming up. That will keep a lid on most of it.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Pubs are open in the next village I Shit you not.

As with everything overtime it becomes watered down and people stark to push the envelope.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

More people about during this week because more are working. This morning the road is quite.

This virus is bringing the best and worse out of people, some would fit in well in the USSR of old.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Happened on Thursday nights briefing with clear instructions of how in intravieniously inject Domestos and lie on a sunbed for an hour with the heating on when returning home.

I used extra thick, works a treat.

Just being 'sarcastic'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"More people about during this week because more are working. This morning the road is quite.

This virus is bringing the best and worse out of people, some would fit in well in the USSR of old."

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I haven't seen anything, but then I've barely been outside.

People flouting lockdown will result in a surge in cases and a lockdown extension. Possibly fines/ penalties increased and our liberties further curtailed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope. Still a lot quieter than normal. As for the person mentioning seeing cars containing passengers. Maybe they are a couple.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

It's been a lot busier and getting busier each week. Yesterday was basically no different to a normal day.. except for the queues to get in.. and I've noticed lots more people complaining now too. Where as even last week. People were chatting while they waited.. noticed a lot more people getting angry at other people now too

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall

Yes the last few days have felt like a bit of a lift in the lockdown, yet nothing official I'm just sure people have had enough and the reopening and announced ooennings of stores haven't helped. A lot more neighbours have been having visitors too.

Am I missing something or are we all still ment to be social distancing. This time next week some people will be like "covid who?"

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

It's still very quiet here. I think what has happened is that peoples experience of the lock down in the first few weeks made them assume that level of activity was due to lock down.

However, it was an over exaggerated lock down those first few weeks.

Some places of work shut that did not need to due to them not being able to manage social distancing over night.

Lots of people were self isolating because of suspected covid 19 and will be returning back to permitted work.

It was also the school holidays and so people had leave booked and could not cancel so remained at home with their kids.

Key workers also had to sort out childcare issues as not all schools and nurseries stayed open.

Basically the initial level of activity was alot lower than it needed to be for many reasons.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"This time next week some people will be like "covid who?" "

And then the week after cases will resurge

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"It's still very quiet here. I think what has happened is that peoples experience of the lock down in the first few weeks made them assume that level of activity was due to lock down.

However, it was an over exaggerated lock down those first few weeks.

Some places of work shut that did not need to due to them not being able to manage social distancing over night.

Lots of people were self isolating because of suspected covid 19 and will be returning back to permitted work.

It was also the school holidays and so people had leave booked and could not cancel so remained at home with their kids.

Key workers also had to sort out childcare issues as not all schools and nurseries stayed open.

Basically the initial level of activity was alot lower than it needed to be for many reasons. "

Actually that makes sense... I forget about school holidays as my daughter was home schooled before this lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This time next week some people will be like "covid who?"

And then the week after cases will resurge"

Dead right I can see a massive spike in around 2 weeks ,especially in the NE and yorkshire area...people are becoming too complacent

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

"I haven't seen anything, but then I've barely been outside.

People flouting lockdown will result in a surge in cases and a lockdown extension. Possibly fines/ penalties increased and our liberties further curtailed."

I wouldn’t put it past this government to let people flout it and then bring in much more draconian measures because people “can’t behave”.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

"Pubs are open in the next village I Shit you not.

As with everything overtime it becomes watered down and people stark to push the envelope. "

This is illegal. It's one thing people starting to venture out etc... as staying in is a recommendation and request from government, but pubs and restaurants have been ordered to closed. Pubs have been getting fines if they have opened during lockdown; it could also affect their ability to gain a licence in the future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They have started trails now for the new vaccine, so them people have to catch cv9 to see if it works. So lifting lockdown or we will be waiting for ever.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I haven't seen anything, but then I've barely been outside.

People flouting lockdown will result in a surge in cases and a lockdown extension. Possibly fines/ penalties increased and our liberties further curtailed.

I wouldn’t put it past this government to let people flout it and then bring in much more draconian measures because people “can’t behave”."

I think it was this week, the measures in England were tightened slightly. Fairly quietly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven't seen anything, but then I've barely been outside.

People flouting lockdown will result in a surge in cases and a lockdown extension. Possibly fines/ penalties increased and our liberties further curtailed.

I wouldn’t put it past this government to let people flout it and then bring in much more draconian measures because people “can’t behave”."

Why would they do that when they’re under pressure to start to open up because of the economy?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I haven't seen anything, but then I've barely been outside.

People flouting lockdown will result in a surge in cases and a lockdown extension. Possibly fines/ penalties increased and our liberties further curtailed.

I wouldn’t put it past this government to let people flout it and then bring in much more draconian measures because people “can’t behave”.

Why would they do that when they’re under pressure to start to open up because of the economy?"

It depends on what you believe their primary motivators are here. Some believe this is a slippery slope for the elimination of democracy.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?"

Yes, agree. Started yesterday

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?It's patchy but the trend is clear. High Street footfall is 76% down on last year (as at Thursday 23rd) but is up 7% on the previous week.

Government don't trust us with data, apparently."

That makes sense about people making deferred journeys when lockdown was extended, good point.

Many people won't understand stats or graphs though so can't blame them for not sharing the data.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"It's been increasing for the past week or so. People i know of. Not friends or family were posting up pictures of them having a BBQ last night with about 10-12 people. It infuriates me. I'm not one to report it. But it does make you feel like it sometimes. Just selfish. I don't think the press are helping mind with what their stories"

I'd have aot more respect for someone reporting me than talking about me behind my back as may have a perfectly "reasonable" reason but that's just me

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

So basically you can be out and about but don't think others have any business to be?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd have aot more respect for someone reporting me than talking about me behind my back as may have a perfectly "reasonable" reason but that's just me"

A reasonable reason for a 12 people bbq during lockdown?

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By *arkb73Man
over a year ago

Cheshire/Staffs

I'd have aot more respect for someone reporting me than talking about me behind my back as may have a perfectly "reasonable" reason but that's just me

A reasonable reason for a 12 people bbq during lockdown?"

They all live in the same house

They keep 2 metres from each other

They’ve all already had it

Plenty of reasons I would guess

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

I'd have aot more respect for someone reporting me than talking about me behind my back as may have a perfectly "reasonable" reason but that's just me

A reasonable reason for a 12 people bbq during lockdown?"

How would I know the reasonable excuse. They should have the opportunity to explain or be fined simple

Talking about them on a swinger site is hardly making the country safer so I can't understand why they didn't report it. Possibly because it's fake news I don't know.

We have a duty to ourselves and each other surely ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s interesting that a professor from Oxford university was on the news the other week stating that the peak of infections in London appeared to have occurred prior to the lockdown. That sneezing into tissues, washing hands, keeping two metres apart had the effect of slowing the spread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People giving up on it now . They have realised there isnt enough police to enforce lockdown . Unless the government come up with some kind of an exit strategy people will just take matters into their own hands . If lockdown is extended again in 2 weeks time I think we are going to see protests and disturbances

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

The data shows increases in movements but we're predominantly staying in lockdown. Roads were a bit busier yesterday when I travelled for work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have both had it .

We are the only ones that live in our house.

Thd mrs is back at work but the mr has been told he is off for another week.

It definitely feels like the lockdown is coming to and end .

The cars on the roads yesterday were like any other friday when we were not in lockdown

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"People giving up on it now . They have realised there isnt enough police to enforce lockdown . Unless the government come up with some kind of an exit strategy people will just take matters into their own hands . If lockdown is extended again in 2 weeks time I think we are going to see protests and disturbances

I always knew that it was practically unenforceable. But I don't want blood on my hands so I park my arse at home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?"

Hardware suppliers have always been able to open as long as they follow social distancing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven't seen anything, but then I've barely been outside.

People flouting lockdown will result in a surge in cases and a lockdown extension. Possibly fines/ penalties increased and our liberties further curtailed.

I wouldn’t put it past this government to let people flout it and then bring in much more draconian measures because people “can’t behave”.

Why would they do that when they’re under pressure to start to open up because of the economy?

It depends on what you believe their primary motivators are here. Some believe this is a slippery slope for the elimination of democracy."

Is that what you believe?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I always knew that it was practically unenforceable. But I don't want blood on my hands so I park my arse at home."

As we do

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I haven't seen anything, but then I've barely been outside.

People flouting lockdown will result in a surge in cases and a lockdown extension. Possibly fines/ penalties increased and our liberties further curtailed.

I wouldn’t put it past this government to let people flout it and then bring in much more draconian measures because people “can’t behave”.

Why would they do that when they’re under pressure to start to open up because of the economy?

It depends on what you believe their primary motivators are here. Some believe this is a slippery slope for the elimination of democracy.

Is that what you believe?"

Good God no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven't seen anything, but then I've barely been outside.

People flouting lockdown will result in a surge in cases and a lockdown extension. Possibly fines/ penalties increased and our liberties further curtailed.

I wouldn’t put it past this government to let people flout it and then bring in much more draconian measures because people “can’t behave”.

Why would they do that when they’re under pressure to start to open up because of the economy?

It depends on what you believe their primary motivators are here. Some believe this is a slippery slope for the elimination of democracy.

Is that what you believe?

Good God no."

Phew!!!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I haven't seen anything, but then I've barely been outside.

People flouting lockdown will result in a surge in cases and a lockdown extension. Possibly fines/ penalties increased and our liberties further curtailed.

I wouldn’t put it past this government to let people flout it and then bring in much more draconian measures because people “can’t behave”.

Why would they do that when they’re under pressure to start to open up because of the economy?

It depends on what you believe their primary motivators are here. Some believe this is a slippery slope for the elimination of democracy.

Is that what you believe?

Good God no.

Phew!!!"

I think we need to watch what governments do here, but we always do need to watch them. I don't think this is any special territory for the kind of conspiracies doing the rounds.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

Just to think all we have to do is stay at home. Most people whinge when they are at work when it is sunny, now they have a chance to stay at home when it is sunny and for a lot of people get most of your wages paid or can work from home

We don't go out other than a fortnightly shop and an odd walk ....we went yesterday to do the big shop and the amount of people who were out were a lot more than two weeks ago that is for sure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Honestly it's a joke and really is disappointing.

People need to understand that there are risks. I'm not saying it's easy staying indoors, it isn't. But to go out for the reason that people are simply bored well its selfish and frustrating.

As a key worker myself, as well as family in the health field they see loads of people out on a daily basis. Its disheartening because the general public do not care.

I've seen family as a group go out for a shop. I've seen cyclists meet in groups cycling which is a joke. I've seen kids being left out on the road where cars seem to be racing. Disappointing from the general public.

Staff in shops should try to minimise the crowds. Staff in shops should challenge people more.

We need to not think selfishly and act accordingly. For one I dont want to be a statistic. I'm living my life at home staying safe.

This is coming from a frontline worker. Someone who has had people they know die from this on the frontline and people are taking liberties until it happens to them or loved ones.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Honestly it's a joke and really is disappointing.

People need to understand that there are risks. I'm not saying it's easy staying indoors, it isn't. But to go out for the reason that people are simply bored well its selfish and frustrating.

As a key worker myself, as well as family in the health field they see loads of people out on a daily basis. Its disheartening because the general public do not care.

Staff in shops should try to minimise the crowds. Staff in shops should challenge people more.

We need to not think selfishly and act accordingly. For one I dont want to be a statistic. I'm living my life at home staying safe.

This is coming from a frontline worker. Someone who has had people they know die from this on the frontline and people are taking liberties until it happens to them or loved ones."

Thank you for what you're doing.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Just to think all we have to do is stay at home. Most people whinge when they are at work when it is sunny, now they have a chance to stay at home when it is sunny and for a lot of people get most of your wages paid or can work from home

We don't go out other than a fortnightly shop and an odd walk ....we went yesterday to do the big shop and the amount of people who were out were a lot more than two weeks ago that is for sure."

I should say when I said "we" we have other people to shop for so I do two lots of shopping and Mr Ruggers does the one for us, saves one of us being in the shop for too long doing all of them.

However the shops seem to be letting couples in anyway, I didn't see any more than two people though, ie no big families

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby

On the upside it’s really helping some people do something they really love to do when they are locked up at home ... bitch about other people on the internet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

... what I really want to know is... what have you done with Pinky!!!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

We don't go out other than a fortnightly shop and an odd walk ....we went yesterday to do the big shop and the amount of people who were out were a lot more than two weeks ago that is for sure.

I should say when I said "we" we have other people to shop for so I do two lots of shopping and Mr Ruggers does the one for us, saves one of us being in the shop for too long doing all of them.

However the shops seem to be letting couples in anyway, I didn't see any more than two people though, ie no big families

I don't drive and usually do small trips. I nearly killed myself this week walking my shopping home. Trying to do the right thing, but shit is heavy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes there are more people out and about, but that's because more businesses are figuring out how to remain open with social distancing in place.

The dips in traffic on the daily briefings, surprise surprise at weekends, when people who are travelling to work (because they are allowed to) are at home.

And that serves what purpose? Paramedics will still take them to hospital if necessary

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

We don't go out other than a fortnightly shop and an odd walk ....we went yesterday to do the big shop and the amount of people who were out were a lot more than two weeks ago that is for sure.

I should say when I said "we" we have other people to shop for so I do two lots of shopping and Mr Ruggers does the one for us, saves one of us being in the shop for too long doing all of them.

However the shops seem to be letting couples in anyway, I didn't see any more than two people though, ie no big families

We're the same as you. Our Tesco only let us in seperately so hubby does our shop and I do my dad's and brothers shop. They have alternate tills open, which helps with the distancing, which is good, but it would be helpful if they could have people starting to pack for you, as you unload your overfilled trollies, to get people moving quicker, just a thought

I noticed more people about yesterday, but they could have had a valid reason, as some are starting to return to work.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

We don't go out other than a fortnightly shop and an odd walk ....we went yesterday to do the big shop and the amount of people who were out were a lot more than two weeks ago that is for sure.

I should say when I said "we" we have other people to shop for so I do two lots of shopping and Mr Ruggers does the one for us, saves one of us being in the shop for too long doing all of them.

However the shops seem to be letting couples in anyway, I didn't see any more than two people though, ie no big families

I don't drive and usually do small trips. I nearly killed myself this week walking my shopping home. Trying to do the right thing, but shit is heavy."

Yes, that's the other side of trying to reduce the amount of time we go out

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

Yes getting busier

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes there are more people out and about, but that's because more businesses are figuring out how to remain open with social distancing in place.

The dips in traffic on the daily briefings, surprise surprise at weekends, when people who are travelling to work (because they are allowed to) are at home.

And that serves what purpose? Paramedics will still take them to hospital if necessary

I look on these forums and know exactly who would of been the grasses in the USSR!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We don't go out other than a fortnightly shop and an odd walk ....we went yesterday to do the big shop and the amount of people who were out were a lot more than two weeks ago that is for sure.

I should say when I said "we" we have other people to shop for so I do two lots of shopping and Mr Ruggers does the one for us, saves one of us being in the shop for too long doing all of them.

However the shops seem to be letting couples in anyway, I didn't see any more than two people though, ie no big families

Our local supermarket and our local tescos express both let us in as a couple but we only ever go early evening or later as that's when its quietest and we've never needed to queue.

I assume a degree of common sense applies when its quieter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As for getting busier it always feels it on a weekend but I think perspective is needed as we've forgotten how busy it was. A busy dual carriageway near me was closed for several hours earlier this week following an accident and that sort of closure would normally have caused gridlock for miles around, as it was zero disruption. So while it may feel busier it is still way quieter than normal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Pubs are open in the next village I Shit you not.

As with everything overtime it becomes watered down and people stark to push the envelope. "

Seriously ? There’s pubs in my area open but not operating as normal but selling produce. Our local brewery/bar is open on a take out basis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On Sky News it reported that today's graph for travel has sent alarm bells ringing due to a rise. I assume the rise is on motor vehicles. It'll be interesting to see said graph at the briefing today.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

We don't go out other than a fortnightly shop and an odd walk ....we went yesterday to do the big shop and the amount of people who were out were a lot more than two weeks ago that is for sure.

I should say when I said "we" we have other people to shop for so I do two lots of shopping and Mr Ruggers does the one for us, saves one of us being in the shop for too long doing all of them.

However the shops seem to be letting couples in anyway, I didn't see any more than two people though, ie no big families

Our local supermarket and our local tescos express both let us in as a couple but we only ever go early evening or later as that's when its quietest and we've never needed to queue.

I assume a degree of common sense applies when its quieter. "

Yes, that would make sense, when it's quite

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

Only place I've been to is the corner shop. Supposed to be 5 people only, but it's more. I go and play PacMan in the aisles, not letting people out!!!

The Saturday girls I noticed today isn't so orange.

Losing track of time, I think I've 10 more days in isolation, which I'll be sorry about, because I love it. Hopefully get some more sun bathing in and let my hair grow a bit. Shaved it all off, look like a butch lesbian at the moment

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

Having read the new law yesterday in full seems like everyone overacted a little, no one told businesses to stop trading or staff to stay at home, you’re actually allowed out for most things other than pub etc

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Pubs are open in the next village I Shit you not.

As with everything overtime it becomes watered down and people stark to push the envelope.

Seriously ? There’s pubs in my area open but not operating as normal but selling produce. Our local brewery/bar is open on a take out basis"

Same here Monkey Brewery pubs never closed

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I'm disgusted by the people who are just flouting the rules, yes, it's boring staying in, yes, we are missing good weather. All we've been asked to do is stay away from other people, it's not that fucking hard.

I understand that there are a very small number of people that will be affected badly by the isolation, but I can guarantee it isn't those people just going out and doing whatever they want.

The sad thing is, the rule breakers seem to get away with it and survive, while those people doing what they can to protect others are dying.

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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago

Masked and Distant

"Having read the new law yesterday in full seems like everyone overacted a little, no one told businesses to stop trading or staff to stay at home, you’re actually allowed out for most things other than pub etc "

Because people keep calling it a lockdown, it's not. At most it's a restriction on our leisure and socialising.

If we keep away from others and wash our hands before we pick our nose we should be ok.

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By *unloversCouple
over a year ago

rotherham

"Honestly it's a joke and really is disappointing.

People need to understand that there are risks. I'm not saying it's easy staying indoors, it isn't. But to go out for the reason that people are simply bored well its selfish and frustrating.

As a key worker myself, as well as family in the health field they see loads of people out on a daily basis. Its disheartening because the general public do not care.

Staff in shops should try to minimise the crowds. Staff in shops should challenge people more.

We need to not think selfishly and act accordingly. For one I dont want to be a statistic. I'm living my life at home staying safe.

This is coming from a frontline worker. Someone who has had people they know die from this on the frontline and people are taking liberties until it happens to them or loved ones."

Thank you for everything you are doing

I am also a keyworker but not frontline but I still get annoyed with the amount of people who are ignoring the rules

Nobody seems to be taking this seriously enough which is why there is still lots of deaths

I agree with everything you have said

Xxxx

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By *unloversCouple
over a year ago

rotherham

It’s the ignorant people who are ignoring everything who are stopping us from seeing our families

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Because people keep calling it a lockdown, it's not. At most it's a restriction on our leisure and socialising.

If we keep away from others and wash our hands before we pick our nose we should be ok."

We aren't being told to go and risk our lives in a war torn country, we have luxuries that many around the world don't have and would and do die for. It's selfish and vile that people won't even just sit in their houses in order to protect others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is why we expect to get second and third waves of this. We should expect disruption including new lockdowns periodically. The new 'normal'.

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over a year ago

"Honestly it's a joke and really is disappointing.

People need to understand that there are risks. I'm not saying it's easy staying indoors, it isn't. But to go out for the reason that people are simply bored well its selfish and frustrating.

As a key worker myself, as well as family in the health field they see loads of people out on a daily basis. Its disheartening because the general public do not care.

Staff in shops should try to minimise the crowds. Staff in shops should challenge people more.

We need to not think selfishly and act accordingly. For one I dont want to be a statistic. I'm living my life at home staying safe.

This is coming from a frontline worker. Someone who has had people they know die from this on the frontline and people are taking liberties until it happens to them or loved ones."

How do you feel about groups of people gathering to “clap for carers” whilst not adhering to the social distancing rules?

I can see why some people might think “Well, if they’re mixing, including NHS staff and police, why can’t I with friends and family?”

It’s extremely hypocritical, don’t you think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Continuing to follow lockdown here and will do as I am an obedient citizen but increasingly seeing how futile it is. My guess is those Nightingale hospital beds will be needed quite soon or perhaps it was all a storm in a teacup. I see so much hypocrisy going on that it makes me wonder if will have been all worth while.

. I think the Human race is pretty well doomed anyway if we don't pull together a bit better.

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By *rofessor_MarcusMan
over a year ago

Chorley

I suppose the question has to be, what is the acceptable figure of deaths to allow people to carry as before?

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

We are staying in till advised to do otherwise.

As for them smoking w**d they should adopt a shoot to kill on anyone using that s**t

Hate it and any other d’s and those that use them with a passion.

Utter breath stealers.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Is there any correlation between n sturgeon talking about the exit strategy and the sudden increase of more people out and about that people are noticing? This is exactly why the English government have said they will not discuss it yet as they are afraid people will think its over before it is.Just asking.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

I think if we were all capable of obeying basic regulations the lockdown could end tomorrow, it's easier to manage now that we know that it's there and how we can best avoid spreading it.

The vast majority of those who died probably caught it before we even had one confirmed case.

Or on the other hand we can stay locked down forever and die wishing we had lived

Unfortunately there aren't enough people left with a bit of common sense so everyone must suffer

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Is there any correlation between n sturgeon talking about the exit strategy and the sudden increase of more people out and about that people are noticing? This is exactly why the English government have said they will not discuss it yet as they are afraid people will think its over before it is.Just asking. "

No because she is talking about scotland?

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

We don't go out other than a fortnightly shop and an odd walk ....we went yesterday to do the big shop and the amount of people who were out were a lot more than two weeks ago that is for sure.

I should say when I said "we" we have other people to shop for so I do two lots of shopping and Mr Ruggers does the one for us, saves one of us being in the shop for too long doing all of them.

However the shops seem to be letting couples in anyway, I didn't see any more than two people though, ie no big families

Our local supermarket and our local tescos express both let us in as a couple but we only ever go early evening or later as that's when its quietest and we've never needed to queue.

I assume a degree of common sense applies when its quieter. "

I didn't mean lots more people in the shop, I meant on the streets themselves, more people about and more cars.

We try and got late to avoid the people who have no clue how to follow an arrow on the floor and the ones who won't wait two minutes while you get something on a shelf and cut across you...at least one said excuse me when coming close to my face bending to get something off the shelf I was in front of

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

We don't go out other than a fortnightly shop and an odd walk ....we went yesterday to do the big shop and the amount of people who were out were a lot more than two weeks ago that is for sure.

I should say when I said "we" we have other people to shop for so I do two lots of shopping and Mr Ruggers does the one for us, saves one of us being in the shop for too long doing all of them.

However the shops seem to be letting couples in anyway, I didn't see any more than two people though, ie no big families

Our local supermarket and our local tescos express both let us in as a couple but we only ever go early evening or later as that's when its quietest and we've never needed to queue.

I assume a degree of common sense applies when its quieter.

I didn't mean lots more people in the shop, I meant on the streets themselves, more people about and more cars.

And at the other end of the spectrum I stood for a good two minutes waiting for someone to examine every packet of sausages on the fkn shelf, then again when they couldn't decide on custard creams of rich tea ffs then leave the trolley in the middle of the asile and go back for something they forgot.

And it's not a one off it's every bloody time.

Can people not decide what they want before they go shopping, it's not like they aren't standing for 20-30 minutes waiting to get in.

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By *ools and the brain OP Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"I think if we were all capable of obeying basic regulations the lockdown could end tomorrow, it's easier to manage now that we know that it's there and how we can best avoid spreading it.

The vast majority of those who died probably caught it before we even had one confirmed case.

Or on the other hand we can stay locked down forever and die wishing we had lived

Unfortunately there aren't enough people left with a bit of common sense so everyone must suffer "

One thing the past few weeks has taught me is people can't be trusted to be sensible.

Ok so a majority can but it's the cock wombles who think this doesn't apply to them and complain about it saying nobody's gonna tell me what to do blah blah blah...

Then there the ones complaining loudest when they have to go to hospital for anything about the long waiting times.

I have been working throughout this as I am doing emergency works to essential buildings and the roads have been bliss.

So from that point of view I'm being selfish saying carry on lockdown.

They where saying on news earlier that because a number of businesses have decided to return to work next week people are assuming it's all ok now and that when one person see's another out and about they say well if they can do it so can I.

It's been like a bank holiday today in my street so many people in fairly large groups up and down the road lots and lots of car's.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I would imagine it would take longer than two minutes to check every packet of sausage on the shelf

A bit of patience from people wouldn't hurt though

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

I've seen loads of people out today, going in groups to the shop, coming back with only beer and ice lollies.

I just don't understand what people aren't understanding about only going out if necessary, it's really not rocket science. If you can live comfortably without it, you don't need to go out and get it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

people complaining that they see too many people out when they are out. You couldn’t make it up.

Luckily it’s not members of the fab forum’s because they are indoors online complaining about people being out from the safety of their settee tablet on lap, cup of tea in hand.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"people complaining that they see too many people out when they are out. You couldn’t make it up.

Luckily it’s not members of the fab forum’s because they are indoors online complaining about people being out from the safety of their settee tablet on lap, cup of tea in hand.

Yes because that's the responsible thing to do

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"I would imagine it would take longer than two minutes to check every packet of sausage on the shelf

A bit of patience from people wouldn't hurt though"

Nope it took two minutes give or take a few seconds.

Patience yes, but your not supposed to touch unless you buy. And if you can't decide then have the common decency to look around to let others past safely.

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"I would imagine it would take longer than two minutes to check every packet of sausage on the shelf

A bit of patience from people wouldn't hurt though

Nope it took two minutes give or take a few seconds.

Patience yes, but your not supposed to touch unless you buy. And if you can't decide then have the common decency to look around to let others past safely."

Or people could just have a bit of patience while someone else decides what they want from the shelf...bar all the touching of course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Honestly.... I think a lot of people think its an extra paid holiday especially as the weathers been so good. I wonder if there would be a difference if it was pissing down?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Honestly it's a joke and really is disappointing.

People need to understand that there are risks. I'm not saying it's easy staying indoors, it isn't. But to go out for the reason that people are simply bored well its selfish and frustrating.

As a key worker myself, as well as family in the health field they see loads of people out on a daily basis. Its disheartening because the general public do not care.

Staff in shops should try to minimise the crowds. Staff in shops should challenge people more.

We need to not think selfishly and act accordingly. For one I dont want to be a statistic. I'm living my life at home staying safe.

This is coming from a frontline worker. Someone who has had people they know die from this on the frontline and people are taking liberties until it happens to them or loved ones.

How do you feel about groups of people gathering to “clap for carers” whilst not adhering to the social distancing rules?

I can see why some people might think “Well, if they’re mixing, including NHS staff and police, why can’t I with friends and family?”

It’s extremely hypocritical, don’t you think?"

I think it's a joke when the police do it along with the medical staff.

I know what the reality is. Frontline there is no social distancing in the hospitals or for the police. I'm in law enforcement myself.

I think coming out your front door to clap is fine. But people who use it as an opportunity to come out and have a jolly is another thing.

We have to keep safe. We really do. The government has truly lacked behind numerous times and have failed to provide a straight and honest reply to any question.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"people complaining that they see too many people out when they are out. You couldn’t make it up.

Luckily it’s not members of the fab forum’s because they are indoors online complaining about people being out from the safety of their settee tablet on lap, cup of tea in hand.

Yes because that's the responsible thing to do

Posting on a swinging forum has obviously not been picked up by sage yet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?"

You taking the piss bitching about B&Q being packed you were one of them packing it out ffs

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"I would imagine it would take longer than two minutes to check every packet of sausage on the shelf

A bit of patience from people wouldn't hurt though

Nope it took two minutes give or take a few seconds.

Patience yes, but your not supposed to touch unless you buy. And if you can't decide then have the common decency to look around to let others past safely.

Or people could just have a bit of patience while someone else decides what they want from the shelf...bar all the touching of course"

Unfortunately some people have to get back to saving lives. The patients don't wait for people to decide what the date is on the sausages

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By *ools and the brain OP Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?

You taking the piss bitching about B&Q being packed you were one of them packing it out ffs

Not at all I was there collecting materials for work an emergency job in a care home.

As all the builders merchants are closed B&Q only option.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?

You taking the piss bitching about B&Q being packed you were one of them packing it out ffs

Not at all I was there collecting materials for work an emergency job in a care home.

As all the builders merchants are closed B&Q only option."

When am wrong I say sorry.

Sorry

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By *ools and the brain OP Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?

You taking the piss bitching about B&Q being packed you were one of them packing it out ffs

Not at all I was there collecting materials for work an emergency job in a care home.

As all the builders merchants are closed B&Q only option.

When am wrong I say sorry.

Sorry"

Not a problem I should have said earlier.

I too would have jumped to same conclusion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If massive stores start saying they are open like bnq people will think it's OK to go! Same as people go shopping. So more shopz opening will mean more people on the roads and travelling.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It’s the ignorant people who are ignoring everything who are stopping us from seeing our families"

No they're not.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

All the people on this post who say it's busier than it has been under lock down moaning and criticising, how do you know if you are all inside behaving?

Perhaps the other people who are outside are doing it for similar reasons to yourself?

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over a year ago

I think she's an effective speaker and is treating the Scottish people as adults. I wish our ministers would come across as honest as she does.

I don't think there's any correlation.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?"

Society will if it goes on to long people won't put up with it.

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By * AND JCouple
over a year ago

Godalming

People in part of our road decided to have a party which others from other villages came to join in. How the Police did not turn up I do not know and when politely told not within the guidelines they could not see it. Behaviour like that will extend the lockdown.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

I think she's an effective speaker and is treating the Scottish people as adults. I wish our ministers would come across as honest as she does.

I don't think there's any correlation. "

She is an effective speaker

She has a much bigger agenda than “treating the Scottish people as adults”

Every cloud and all that ...

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By *bonybbwWoman
over a year ago

London

It felt strange to just swan into the supermarket and not join a long queue today. Though a lot of the shelves were still empty. It was as if things were back to normal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"people complaining that they see too many people out when they are out. You couldn’t make it up.

Luckily it’s not members of the fab forum’s because they are indoors online complaining about people being out from the safety of their settee tablet on lap, cup of tea in hand.

Yes because that's the responsible thing to do

Complaining is responsible?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think she's an effective speaker and is treating the Scottish people as adults. I wish our ministers would come across as honest as she does.

I don't think there's any correlation.

She is an effective speaker

She has a much bigger agenda than “treating the Scottish people as adults”

Every cloud and all that ..."

I'd vote for her

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By *xycpl699Couple
over a year ago

kilmarnock

"Yes there are more people out and about, but that's because more businesses are figuring out how to remain open with social distancing in place.

The dips in traffic on the daily briefings, surprise surprise at weekends, when people who are travelling to work (because theo y are allowed to) are at home.

And that serves what purpose? Paramedics will still take them to hospital if necessary

I look on these forums and know exactly who would of been the grasses in the USSR!"
i look and no who to block. Hollie

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

I think she's an effective speaker and is treating the Scottish people as adults. I wish our ministers would come across as honest as she does.

I don't think there's any correlation.

She is an effective speaker

She has a much bigger agenda than “treating the Scottish people as adults”

Every cloud and all that ...

I'd vote for her

"
. Are you Scottish ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think she's an effective speaker and is treating the Scottish people as adults. I wish our ministers would come across as honest as she does.

I don't think there's any correlation.

She is an effective speaker

She has a much bigger agenda than “treating the Scottish people as adults”

Every cloud and all that ...

I'd vote for her

. Are you Scottish ?"

No. I do love a Scottish accent though

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I think she is great.

She was boss in those televised debates.always came across dead well.

I think she will get that break though.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"All the people on this post who say it's busier than it has been under lock down moaning and criticising, how do you know if you are all inside behaving?

Perhaps the other people who are outside are doing it for similar reasons to yourself? "

I dunno about you but I've got these amazing things called windows in my house, it means I can see what's going on outside without going outside! It's like magic

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

"people complaining that they see too many people out when they are out. You couldn’t make it up.

Luckily it’s not members of the fab forum’s because they are indoors online complaining about people being out from the safety of their settee tablet on lap, cup of tea in hand.

Yes because that's the responsible thing to do

Complaining is responsible?

I'm complaining responsibly, from the comfort of my own home

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"I would imagine it would take longer than two minutes to check every packet of sausage on the shelf

A bit of patience from people wouldn't hurt though

Nope it took two minutes give or take a few seconds.

Patience yes, but your not supposed to touch unless you buy. And if you can't decide then have the common decency to look around to let others past safely.

Or people could just have a bit of patience while someone else decides what they want from the shelf...bar all the touching of course

Unfortunately some people have to get back to saving lives. The patients don't wait for people to decide what the date is on the sausages"

This is getting very tedious at the moment, if anyone says anything no matter what subject there will be someone who comes along and says think of the NHS people !!!

I wonder if they know they are being used at every opportunity to score points

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I chuckled yesterday. I was waiting in the queue to get unto a shop, 4 people from separate households got into a transit van to start work. There was 3 in the front, 1 in the back.

How on earth is that safe social distancing.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"I would imagine it would take longer than two minutes to check every packet of sausage on the shelf

A bit of patience from people wouldn't hurt though

Nope it took two minutes give or take a few seconds.

Patience yes, but your not supposed to touch unless you buy. And if you can't decide then have the common decency to look around to let others past safely.

Or people could just have a bit of patience while someone else decides what they want from the shelf...bar all the touching of course

Unfortunately some people have to get back to saving lives. The patients don't wait for people to decide what the date is on the sausages

This is getting very tedious at the moment, if anyone says anything no matter what subject there will be someone who comes along and says think of the NHS people !!!

I wonder if they know they are being used at every opportunity to score points"

Your using them to score points I wave them through at the checkout.

Thoughtfulness costs nothing

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By *arlo82Couple
over a year ago

the gym and random places

Considering it was to be til 7th may....and last I checked it was still April...it looks as though the public are suiting themselves as always. I'm personally disgusted at how people have behaved in the past few weeks.

More street parties, kids out and shops heaving... what happened to once a week for essentials?!? I've saw people walk out of shops with 1 item.

I'm experiencing more and more traffic going to work and before anyone says anything I'm front line so I have to be out. I shop once a week because that is the only time I've off. If it doesn't fit with the 8am supermarket rule I spend hours on my day off trying to get food in.

I wonder if they'll listen when people drop like flies in a few weeks?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?"
I've noticed that today a few neighburs having more people and more cars.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's the same in Blackpool. Totally disagree with the rule breakers but we've both said to each other that if this lockdown goes on too long people will have had enough. Also at some point the lockdown will have to be eased before the world looks something like mad max with all business and industries bunkrupt..

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By *andAukCouple
over a year ago

leeds

B&Q have done my box in. I have no problem with people having to buy emergency items, but I have seen a picture today of somebody coming out of Homebase now as well with 2 blowup spas. B&Q customers are walking out with shrubs and plants, garden furniture and BBQ's. All of these are non essential items in my eyes. I work for a company that comes under the DIY label. We don't sell essential items to fix plumbing work or the likes nor tools for such jobs. I have been furloughed for the past 5 weeks on 80% wage as the company has no obligation to top it up, thankfully I can still live on that with my saving topping it up. We could be open again within the next week due to B&Q's move. They screwed up family life years ago, pushing for Sunday trading flouting laws at the time and now the obvious bending of the rules of selling essential only items. Any business bending these rules should be dealt with accordingly.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

I think she's an effective speaker and is treating the Scottish people as adults. I wish our ministers would come across as honest as she does.

I don't think there's any correlation.

She is an effective speaker

She has a much bigger agenda than “treating the Scottish people as adults”

Every cloud and all that ...

I'd vote for her

. Are you Scottish ?

No. I do love a Scottish accent though

I’m Scottish

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By *oldsteadyMan
over a year ago

glasgow

There's a definite feeling of people believing lockdown is easing in Scotland.

Lots more traffic around, people gathering in groups in the street and noise of the odd party here and there.

I think its a combination of exit being mentioned and many people not knowing of anyone who has had coronavirus and starting to believe it wont happen to them.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"B&Q have done my box in. I have no problem with people having to buy emergency items, but I have seen a picture today of somebody coming out of Homebase now as well with 2 blowup spas. B&Q customers are walking out with shrubs and plants, garden furniture and BBQ's. All of these are non essential items in my eyes. I work for a company that comes under the DIY label. We don't sell essential items to fix plumbing work or the likes nor tools for such jobs. I have been furloughed for the past 5 weeks on 80% wage as the company has no obligation to top it up, thankfully I can still live on that with my saving topping it up. We could be open again within the next week due to B&Q's move. They screwed up family life years ago, pushing for Sunday trading flouting laws at the time and now the obvious bending of the rules of selling essential only items. Any business bending these rules should be dealt with accordingly."

So we can't do a bit of gardening to keep us occupied. My husband's doctor encourages him to work in the garden, as that's all he can do for exercise, so we will continue to buy our plants..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think she's an effective speaker and is treating the Scottish people as adults. I wish our ministers would come across as honest as she does.

I don't think there's any correlation.

She is an effective speaker

She has a much bigger agenda than “treating the Scottish people as adults”

Every cloud and all that ...

I'd vote for her

. Are you Scottish ?

No. I do love a Scottish accent though

I’m Scottish "

Helloooooo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So we can't do a bit of gardening to keep us occupied. My husband's doctor encourages him to work in the garden, as that's all he can do for exercise, so we will continue to buy our plants.."

I'm doing the same.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Surely we can buy more than food in the lockdown, if a shop is open then we can buy what they are selling, especially if it is for our well being. We always grow our own salad, vegetables and fruits, so I don't see why we cant still do that.We don't go out running or sitting in parks, so please leave us something.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

So we can't do a bit of gardening to keep us occupied. My husband's doctor encourages him to work in the garden, as that's all he can do for exercise, so we will continue to buy our plants..

I'm doing the same. "

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By *ettyboop61Woman
over a year ago

St Neots

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?"

Yep getting worse ...p*****g me right off

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"Surely we can buy more than food in the lockdown, if a shop is open then we can buy what they are selling, especially if it is for our well being. We always grow our own salad, vegetables and fruits, so I don't see why we cant still do that.We don't go out running or sitting in parks, so please leave us something."

I think the thinking behind it is , if you are going out for what they call non essential items then you are doing non essential trips.

If however you are buying your other items in a Supermarket while buying your food then it isn't so much of a problem as you are buying them on the same one essential trip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely, that's why I temporarily switched from Aldi to B&M for two weeks running

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By *andAukCouple
over a year ago

leeds

It's not so much the gardening for food, I have seeds planted that I prepped the stock of in December. More the folk who are treating this as a holiday and deciding to do up their house, this is wrong. I don't really want to go back to work in harms way to sell products for renovation projects which is what we supply until I know that the risks have been reduced greatly. We've not been going out apart from to buy essential food items and our car hasn't moved for five weeks either. So very much believe that we're following the safety guidance but each to their own. We have also seen neighbours having more visitors and flouting the rules over the past couple of weeks. How is this keeping others safe?

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By *andAukCouple
over a year ago

leeds

I think the thinking behind it is , if you are going out for what they call non essential items then you are doing non essential trips.

If however you are buying your other items in a Supermarket while buying your food then it isn't so much of a problem as you are buying them on the same one essential trip

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

I think the thinking behind it is , if you are going out for what they call non essential items then you are doing non essential trips.

If however you are buying your other items in a Supermarket while buying your food then it isn't so much of a problem as you are buying them on the same one essential trip

I get that, but we are making one trip for both. Some people are driving several miles for a walk, I don't consider that essential travel either

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"It's not so much the gardening for food, I have seeds planted that I prepped the stock of in December. More the folk who are treating this as a holiday and deciding to do up their house, this is wrong. I don't really want to go back to work in harms way to sell products for renovation projects which is what we supply until I know that the risks have been reduced greatly. We've not been going out apart from to buy essential food items and our car hasn't moved for five weeks either. So very much believe that we're following the safety guidance but each to their own. We have also seen neighbours having more visitors and flouting the rules over the past couple of weeks. How is this keeping others safe? "
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We aren't treating it as a holiday, far from it. They want us to stay lockdowned, people are struggling with mental health issues, for goodness sake let them do a bit of planting or painting.

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By *andAukCouple
over a year ago

leeds

I think the thinking behind it is , if you are going out for what they call non essential items then you are doing non essential trips.

If however you are buying your other items in a Supermarket while buying your food then it isn't so much of a problem as you are buying them on the same one essential trip

I get that, but we are making one trip for both. Some people are driving several miles for a walk, I don't consider that essential travel either

And we agree it isn't, when you can just as much walk around where you live. Some folk just aren't getting it though. A boat load of surfers we're out the other day. Can this be deemed as their allowed daily exercise? Surely this is a hobby

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

I think the thinking behind it is , if you are going out for what they call non essential items then you are doing non essential trips.

If however you are buying your other items in a Supermarket while buying your food then it isn't so much of a problem as you are buying them on the same one essential trip

I get that, but we are making one trip for both. Some people are driving several miles for a walk, I don't consider that essential travel either

Obviously not...

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

I think the thinking behind it is , if you are going out for what they call non essential items then you are doing non essential trips.

If however you are buying your other items in a Supermarket while buying your food then it isn't so much of a problem as you are buying them on the same one essential trip

I get that, but we are making one trip for both.

Then none of what has been said about non essential trips applies to you.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

I think the thinking behind it is , if you are going out for what they call non essential items then you are doing non essential trips.

If however you are buying your other items in a Supermarket while buying your food then it isn't so much of a problem as you are buying them on the same one essential trip

I get that, but we are making one trip for both.

Then none of what has been said about non essential trips applies to you."
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I was initially commenting on B&Q. If people want to buy garden equipment, plants etc and a tin of paint,let them. They are trying to keep busy and sane. I don't consider someone driving anywhere for a walk essential travel, but that is allowed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately we live in a society of selfish c*nts and COVID has shown this in it's full light. The rules were clear yet people have continued to flout them because it's going to inconvenience them. Boo fucking hoo! It's just a shame that COVID doesn't necessarily kill those selfish fuckers, rather than thousands of innocent people.

I'm sick of hearing the excuses, "but it's nice weather", "but my mental health will be affected", "but I really need to go into work" when 99/100 it's just people feeling self-entitled and not wanting to put themselves out for a few weeks for the greater good of their fellow mankind.

I went for a walk yesterday (on my own as per usual and self-distancing) and was gobsmacked at the amount of groups out. Groups of teenage kids on bikes, half a dozen or so separate groups of people fishing (with crates of beer to see them through) and families using locked-down, cordoned off public parks to walk their dog.

Selfish doesn't even start to cover it.

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

If my garden is as far as I'm going to get for the foreseeable future then I want something decent to sit on.

Listen, no matter what going on around us life still goes on. To expect people to put their lives totally on hold for months is unrealistic. I've needed grass seed for example during this. By your reckoning it isn't an essential purchase but it is to me. Why should I have to sit there twiddling my thumbs watching the lawn Ive looked after for years turn to shit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I haven't seen anything, but then I've barely been outside.

People flouting lockdown will result in a surge in cases and a lockdown extension. Possibly fines/ penalties increased and our liberties further curtailed.

I wouldn’t put it past this government to let people flout it and then bring in much more draconian measures because people “can’t behave”."

Socially irresponsible selfish people choose to flaunt it, if the government decide to increase restrictions because of this then good. Its about saving lives, that's the priority not idiots who don't give a dam about other people.

How insulting is it to those who are at risk, working to keep essential things running and all our care community who don't have the luxury of staying at home safe.

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By *layfulserfMan
over a year ago

Northolt

Probably... If people think that it could be over soon they might think they will be less harm than if they go out now.

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By *y3942Man
over a year ago

hastings

"Honestly it's a joke and really is disappointing.

People need to understand that there are risks. I'm not saying it's easy staying indoors, it isn't. But to go out for the reason that people are simply bored well its selfish and frustrating.

As a key worker myself, as well as family in the health field they see loads of people out on a daily basis. Its disheartening because the general public do not care.

Staff in shops should try to minimise the crowds. Staff in shops should challenge people more.

We need to not think selfishly and act accordingly. For one I dont want to be a statistic. I'm living my life at home staying safe.

This is coming from a frontline worker. Someone who has had people they know die from this on the frontline and people are taking liberties until it happens to them or loved ones."

yes. people cant handle 3 weeks of a mild lockdown with internet and tv. imagine if this happened in the 80's? no video games, no internet, only 4 tv channels.

imagine what things would be like if it was an actual lockdown, with an actual serious pandemic or other issue. that went on for months.

ive been working the whole time, but wouldn't call myself a keyworker. i think some people are abusing that term (not you), like a cleaner at a shop told me she was a keyworker :\ ok, then im a keyworker too in that case. i think keyworker is becoming a buzz word even if it is apt.

so in my town ive seen a lot of people walking about the whole time. obviously nowhere near like normal, but many elderly and druggies mainly. i didn't see any kids (strangely) until a few days ago. i had wondered why they weren't terrorizing the area as they usually do. and the last couple of days does sound (cause im on nights, so only hear the day activity) busier.

oh, and the number of cyclists out. they've always annoyed me, but they're like packs of wild animals now, weaving in and out of people with no regard. i think all bikes need a permanent lockdown!

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By *y3942Man
over a year ago

hastings

I think the thinking behind it is , if you are going out for what they call non essential items then you are doing non essential trips.

If however you are buying your other items in a Supermarket while buying your food then it isn't so much of a problem as you are buying them on the same one essential trip

I get that, but we are making one trip for both.

Then none of what has been said about non essential trips applies to you.,

true. lockdown is a perfect time to do all that diy and home improvements the other half has been complaining about for the last 3 years.

i was under the impression they were told to shut? which i didn't understand. a diy store is not going to be used by as many people as a supermarket, and in theory, you will only need to go once during the whole lockdown.

if supermarkets, even tiny ones could get safe distancing rules in place the next day, i dont see why these massive b&q's couldn't do the same if they were never TOLD to shut.

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By *kindofmidnightCouple
over a year ago

befordshire/somewhere

"Coz it feels like it's been unofficially lifted.

tons more traffic on the roads,kids out playing (teen-agers) shops alot busier.

I had to go to B&Q yesterday for work to get materials for an emergency job.

It was absolutely heaving despite bq doing a sound job in limiting numbers inside was a free for all people all over the place.

It seems lot's of people have decided to take it upon themselves to end lockdown.

Is this the same near you?"

It seems to be the trend since lockdown began...Every weekend people seem to think the lockdown is lifted as the numbers through the week begin to level out but come the end of the week the numbers rise. Because every imbecile was out the weekend before!!

When will people realise we’ll be stuck in this never ending loop if we don’t just STAY AT HOME!!!

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

"Honestly it's a joke and really is disappointing.

People need to understand that there are risks. I'm not saying it's easy staying indoors, it isn't. But to go out for the reason that people are simply bored well its selfish and frustrating.

As a key worker myself, as well as family in the health field they see loads of people out on a daily basis. Its disheartening because the general public do not care.

Staff in shops should try to minimise the crowds. Staff in shops should challenge people more.

We need to not think selfishly and act accordingly. For one I dont want to be a statistic. I'm living my life at home staying safe.

This is coming from a frontline worker. Someone who has had people they know die from this on the frontline and people are taking liberties until it happens to them or loved ones.

yes. people cant handle 3 weeks of a mild lockdown with internet and tv. imagine if this happened in the 80's? no video games, no internet, only 4 tv channels.

imagine what things would be like if it was an actual lockdown, with an actual serious pandemic or other issue. that went on for months.

oh, and the number of cyclists out. they've always annoyed me, but they're like packs of wild animals now, weaving in and out of people with no regard. i think all bikes need a permanent lockdown!"

Wondering what stereotypical bullshit reasons you dont like cyclists. Could it be because they all wear lycra or Al go thru red lights or is it because they don't pay road tax or insurance? People who get annoyed by cyclists annoy me. They tend to be illogical idiots with a valid or original thought in their head in my experience.

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington

"All the people on this post who say it's busier than it has been under lock down moaning and criticising, how do you know if you are all inside behaving?

Perhaps the other people who are outside are doing it for similar reasons to yourself? "
If you lookfurther up I quotes stats (for high street footfall) that can be found withut leaving my sofa.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

If my garden is as far as I'm going to get for the foreseeable future then I want something decent to sit on.

Exactly this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the thinking behind it is , if you are going out for what they call non essential items then you are doing non essential trips.

If however you are buying your other items in a Supermarket while buying your food then it isn't so much of a problem as you are buying them on the same one essential trip

I get that, but we are making one trip for both. Some people are driving several miles for a walk, I don't consider that essential travel either

It's permissable when you consider May people live in built up areas - they cannot all go for their walks/runs/exercise in their own locality.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

I think the thinking behind it is , if you are going out for what they call non essential items then you are doing non essential trips.

If however you are buying your other items in a Supermarket while buying your food then it isn't so much of a problem as you are buying them on the same one essential trip

I get that, but we are making one trip for both.

Then none of what has been said about non essential trips applies to you.,

true. lockdown is a perfect time to do all that diy and home improvements the other half has been complaining about for the last 3 years.

if supermarkets, even tiny ones could get safe distancing rules in place the next day, i dont see why these massive b&q's couldn't do the same if they were never TOLD to shut."
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No I don't think they were told to shut, but if they are open people will buy whatever they have to sell , so you will see people walking out with paint and stuff for their barbecues and you're right, they should only need to shop once during this time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Unfortunately we live in a society of selfish c*nts and COVID has shown this in it's full light. The rules were clear yet people have continued to flout them because it's going to inconvenience them. Boo fucking hoo! It's just a shame that COVID doesn't necessarily kill those selfish fuckers, rather than thousands of innocent people.

Selfish doesn't even start to cover it.

What's your problem with households going out together walking the dog when it's permissable?