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"Don't misunderstand me, I know how awful this disease is. I know the pain of losing loved ones. ( not to covid ) Surely there is a limit to the amount of death and grief that people can take. I do think it will add to people's mental and emotional deterioration. " Unfortunately in these times of soap opera politic and puppet mainstream media the news content has a high emotional focus in an attempt to influence the population (stay in, save life’s etc.). Personally I believe this is an outcome of our own doing ..... the UK mainstream media has, for some years now, seen a meteoric escalation of reality and instant fame entertainment. Sadly we are now reaping in reality what has already been established in our cultural fabric. | |||
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"Since Covid it's endless. Initially I soaked up reporting due to the novelty of the virus. Now i'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable. Just about every death brings the family out to cry on camera. Do we have to share it all ? There really isn't anything exceptional about people grieving and I wish the families the best.... but I don't want to have to go to one more 'mini' funeral. I think it's giving a skewed view of events and diluting the real pain felt by families. " I hear you. the trouble is that how we do grief as a country has changed. One of my regular cycling routes is what used to be a country lane, but is now a cycle path. It was closed off because it was believed of the local scum / joyriders who'd use it as a private race track late at night before burning someone else's pride and joy. One of the scum improved average intelligence and morality twenty years ago by removing themselves from the gene pool - too prosaic an end for the Darwin Awards, but hey ho. Over the years their family have steadily turned the tree in question into a private shrine - I went past yesterday ad there's fresh white gravel, a vase, ribbons, printed cards, the whole panoply of commemorative dreck, all to remember a car thief. We seem to tolerate ostentatious grief far more than we used to and seem to be much less likely to do a balanced assessment of the deceased; not everyone who dies was an angel, or a hero, or even very likeable. I call it the Princess Diana effect - by the time Tony Blair and others had finished whitewashing her character it became almost seditious libel to question whether she actually was that worthy, or good. That's a long way from where you started, but on this one I'm with you. Anyone who's reaction to grief is to record a TV interview needs to have professional help, not some ghoulish journalist who knows death sells (and always has - as anyone who's ever seen a journo do a death knock will know.) | |||
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"Since Covid it's endless. Initially I soaked up reporting due to the novelty of the virus. Now i'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable. Just about every death brings the family out to cry on camera. Do we have to share it all ? There really isn't anything exceptional about people grieving and I wish the families the best.... but I don't want to have to go to one more 'mini' funeral. I think it's giving a skewed view of events and diluting the real pain felt by families. " I agree completely I sadly think we have gone to a point of no return | |||
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"Since Covid it's endless. Initially I soaked up reporting due to the novelty of the virus. Now i'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable. Just about every death brings the family out to cry on camera. Do we have to share it all ? There really isn't anything exceptional about people grieving and I wish the families the best.... but I don't want to have to go to one more 'mini' funeral. I think it's giving a skewed view of events and diluting the real pain felt by families. " Totally agree | |||
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"Don't misunderstand me, I know how awful this disease is. I know the pain of losing loved ones. ( not to covid ) Surely there is a limit to the amount of death and grief that people can take. I do think it will add to people's mental and emotional deterioration. Unfortunately in these times of soap opera politic and puppet mainstream media the news content has a high emotional focus in an attempt to influence the population (stay in, save life’s etc.). Personally I believe this is an outcome of our own doing ..... the UK mainstream media has, for some years now, seen a meteoric escalation of reality and instant fame entertainment. Sadly we are now reaping in reality what has already been established in our cultural fabric." Absolutely agree | |||
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"Since Covid it's endless. Initially I soaked up reporting due to the novelty of the virus. Now i'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable. Just about every death brings the family out to cry on camera. Do we have to share it all ? There really isn't anything exceptional about people grieving and I wish the families the best.... but I don't want to have to go to one more 'mini' funeral. I think it's giving a skewed view of events and diluting the real pain felt by families. " That is rather heartless of you to say. If you do not like then switch it off. The whole point behind this is to highlight how the virus is killing people of all ages from all walks of life. Alot of people think it will not come to their door so showing these grieving families may make you think twice and make you be more cautious and careful over the coming weeks. | |||
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"Since Covid it's endless. Initially I soaked up reporting due to the novelty of the virus. Now i'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable. Just about every death brings the family out to cry on camera. Do we have to share it all ? There really isn't anything exceptional about people grieving and I wish the families the best.... but I don't want to have to go to one more 'mini' funeral. I think it's giving a skewed view of events and diluting the real pain felt by families. " I agree. Will be interesting to read any views from those who disagree. | |||
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" That is rather heartless of you to say. If you do not like then switch it off. The whole point behind this is to highlight how the virus is killing people of all ages from all walks of life. Alot of people think it will not come to their door so showing these grieving families may make you think twice and make you be more cautious and careful over the coming weeks." I feel this reinforces my point above, BAE arms sales to Saudi will kill more people Yemen than corvid19 will ever kill in the UK. but guess thats not newsworthy. they are not white metropolitan people like us. | |||
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"I’ve not lost anyone close to Covid-19 but I know others who have. The awful thing is how there is only a funeral, no service and only a handful of mourners. I think it makes the grieving process harder. I certainly wouldn’t be on TV if I’d lost a family member. " We were lucky in that we were able to have a family funeral and a wake, albeit with some not able to attend on the Friday when the pubs closed.. Heartbreaking for some families who have not had that in this time.. | |||
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"I’ve not lost anyone close to Covid-19 but I know others who have. The awful thing is how there is only a funeral, no service and only a handful of mourners. I think it makes the grieving process harder. I certainly wouldn’t be on TV if I’d lost a family member. We were lucky in that we were able to have a family funeral and a wake, albeit with some not able to attend on the Friday when the pubs closed.. Heartbreaking for some families who have not had that in this time.. " I'm sorry for your loss xx | |||
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"Since Covid it's endless. Initially I soaked up reporting due to the novelty of the virus. Now i'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable. Just about every death brings the family out to cry on camera. Do we have to share it all ? There really isn't anything exceptional about people grieving and I wish the families the best.... but I don't want to have to go to one more 'mini' funeral. I think it's giving a skewed view of events and diluting the real pain felt by families. That is rather heartless of you to say. If you do not like then switch it off. The whole point behind this is to highlight how the virus is killing people of all ages from all walks of life. Alot of people think it will not come to their door so showing these grieving families may make you think twice and make you be more cautious and careful over the coming weeks." If I don't like it switch it off ? The number of people that think if you turn the t.v. off the problem is not there is astounding. | |||
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"I’ve not lost anyone close to Covid-19 but I know others who have. The awful thing is how there is only a funeral, no service and only a handful of mourners. I think it makes the grieving process harder. I certainly wouldn’t be on TV if I’d lost a family member. We were lucky in that we were able to have a family funeral and a wake, albeit with some not able to attend on the Friday when the pubs closed.. Heartbreaking for some families who have not had that in this time.. I'm sorry for your loss xx " Thank you.. In some ways it was with the nature of his illness a blessing, and whilst expected ish still a huge hole in all of his families lives.. Given when it happened not sure any of us have begun to grieve yet.. | |||
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"Since Covid it's endless. Initially I soaked up reporting due to the novelty of the virus. Now i'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable. Just about every death brings the family out to cry on camera. Do we have to share it all ? There really isn't anything exceptional about people grieving and I wish the families the best.... but I don't want to have to go to one more 'mini' funeral. I think it's giving a skewed view of events and diluting the real pain felt by families. " Unfortunately the media and our society is addicted to grief, mysery and general depression. The media cannot help themselves bigging up as much as possible any bad news by using terms like "gripped in horror, outrage, terrified, panic" in general sweeping terms in refering to their warped view of the general public and society laps it up. | |||
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"I’ve not lost anyone close to Covid-19 but I know others who have. The awful thing is how there is only a funeral, no service and only a handful of mourners. I think it makes the grieving process harder. I certainly wouldn’t be on TV if I’d lost a family member. We were lucky in that we were able to have a family funeral and a wake, albeit with some not able to attend on the Friday when the pubs closed.. Heartbreaking for some families who have not had that in this time.. I'm sorry for your loss xx Thank you.. In some ways it was with the nature of his illness a blessing, and whilst expected ish still a huge hole in all of his families lives.. Given when it happened not sure any of us have begun to grieve yet.. " Understood xxx Experience tells me that grief isn't linear xx | |||
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"I’ve not lost anyone close to Covid-19 but I know others who have. The awful thing is how there is only a funeral, no service and only a handful of mourners. I think it makes the grieving process harder. I certainly wouldn’t be on TV if I’d lost a family member. We were lucky in that we were able to have a family funeral and a wake, albeit with some not able to attend on the Friday when the pubs closed.. Heartbreaking for some families who have not had that in this time.. I'm sorry for your loss xx Thank you.. In some ways it was with the nature of his illness a blessing, and whilst expected ish still a huge hole in all of his families lives.. Given when it happened not sure any of us have begun to grieve yet.. Understood xxx Experience tells me that grief isn't linear xx " That's true.. | |||
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"People live their lives on Facebook People tell their life story on The x factor Why would grief be any different? Its the age we live in." I don't agree lionel. Grief is different because it is depressive/supressive/mood lowering....... What I am saying is that LIFE itself brings times when we must grieve but if we grieve with several families per day and do that over a few weeks it is going to have an effect on emotions and mental states. A bit like PTSD. Even in world wars we heard numbers of fatalities , we knew people who had losses but we didn't go to all the funerals or stand the family in the street to mourn for us all or tell us how their family met their end..... I totally disagree with the poster above who says that it's a heartless comment for me to make. On the contrary I think you'd have to be pretty heartless not to mention fairly brainless to keep indulging in this spectacle. | |||
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"People live their lives on Facebook People tell their life story on The x factor Why would grief be any different? Its the age we live in." And the grief is now part and parcel of things like tosser factor, Britain's talentless etc doing segments of the show about how someone in their families either got cancer or destitute or being deported or whatever shite we don't need to know but creates a good old sob story. | |||
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"People live their lives on Facebook People tell their life story on The x factor Why would grief be any different? Its the age we live in. I don't agree lionel. Grief is different because it is depressive/supressive/mood lowering....... What I am saying is that LIFE itself brings times when we must grieve but if we grieve with several families per day and do that over a few weeks it is going to have an effect on emotions and mental states. A bit like PTSD. Even in world wars we heard numbers of fatalities , we knew people who had losses but we didn't go to all the funerals or stand the family in the street to mourn for us all or tell us how their family met their end..... I totally disagree with the poster above who says that it's a heartless comment for me to make. On the contrary I think you'd have to be pretty heartless not to mention fairly brainless to keep indulging in this spectacle. " I couldn't agree more, people are addicted to depression, addicted to feeling down | |||
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"People live their lives on Facebook People tell their life story on The x factor Why would grief be any different? Its the age we live in. I don't agree lionel. Grief is different because it is depressive/supressive/mood lowering....... What I am saying is that LIFE itself brings times when we must grieve but if we grieve with several families per day and do that over a few weeks it is going to have an effect on emotions and mental states. A bit like PTSD. Even in world wars we heard numbers of fatalities , we knew people who had losses but we didn't go to all the funerals or stand the family in the street to mourn for us all or tell us how their family met their end..... I totally disagree with the poster above who says that it's a heartless comment for me to make. On the contrary I think you'd have to be pretty heartless not to mention fairly brainless to keep indulging in this spectacle. " I just think we live in an age where everything we do is through the prism of social media.We live or lives on there so death would be no different. The media undoubtedly play a part too. The poster who mentioned diana made a good point. | |||
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"Since Covid it's endless. Initially I soaked up reporting due to the novelty of the virus. Now i'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable. Just about every death brings the family out to cry on camera. Do we have to share it all ? There really isn't anything exceptional about people grieving and I wish the families the best.... but I don't want to have to go to one more 'mini' funeral. I think it's giving a skewed view of events and diluting the real pain felt by families. " Agreed - the whole reporting of this is pretty unpleasant. The BBC are the worst. | |||
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"I can't remember the last time I heard about brexit. Just imagine if there was no virus to report.. We would have brexit pushed down our throats 24/7 " Brexit stuff is still being done, the media are not reporting on it much. | |||
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"Since Covid it's endless. Initially I soaked up reporting due to the novelty of the virus. Now i'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable. Just about every death brings the family out to cry on camera. Do we have to share it all ? There really isn't anything exceptional about people grieving and I wish the families the best.... but I don't want to have to go to one more 'mini' funeral. I think it's giving a skewed view of events and diluting the real pain felt by families. That is rather heartless of you to say. If you do not like then switch it off. The whole point behind this is to highlight how the virus is killing people of all ages from all walks of life. Alot of people think it will not come to their door so showing these grieving families may make you think twice and make you be more cautious and careful over the coming weeks." | |||
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"People live their lives on Facebook People tell their life story on The x factor Why would grief be any different? Its the age we live in. I don't agree lionel. Grief is different because it is depressive/supressive/mood lowering....... What I am saying is that LIFE itself brings times when we must grieve but if we grieve with several families per day and do that over a few weeks it is going to have an effect on emotions and mental states. A bit like PTSD. Even in world wars we heard numbers of fatalities , we knew people who had losses but we didn't go to all the funerals or stand the family in the street to mourn for us all or tell us how their family met their end..... I totally disagree with the poster above who says that it's a heartless comment for me to make. On the contrary I think you'd have to be pretty heartless not to mention fairly brainless to keep indulging in this spectacle. " I don't like it so i don't watch it. However if it means that some people now understand how serious covid-19 is and they stay inside then it's done something good. | |||
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"It's certainly not good for anyone's who mental health is fragile currently. I have a friend who works as a news reporter / journalist and she's gave me an insight into how it works in terms of the single minded pursuit of the next most dramatic, impactful, potentially heart wrenching story all in the name of reading and viewing figures! She has talked through many examples over the years when we have been luckily enough to catch up for a few drinks. I can imagine the news room boss asking his journalists what have we got? The first journalist steps in with another care worker who has passed away story and is quickly dismissed as that's be becoming stale now and a new angle is needed. Step forward a 2nd journalist who informs the boss that 2 twins only in middle aged have recently passed away within days of each other due to covid19. The boss is interest and perks up. The journalist then adds that the twins were also both care workers / nurses. The boss then jumps up and replies "that's it!" "I want all your resources onto this story we don't have a second to loose!" Sadly that's what it can be like and wether your story makes the news or even become a main story depends on if it plays into to the tone and the narrative that the news station is wanting to deliver at the that oint in time. Look at the mass shooting in Canada it was 20 plus dead wasn't it? I don't know exactly because it's hardly been covered. If that happened pre coronavirus it would have dominated all the new channels for days! Each death if tragic and my heart goes out to all the families. People are scared enough for thier own personal situations currently. For me my Dad's got terminal cancer and his cancer treatment prolonging his life has been completely stopped and my wife is also 9 weeks pregnant with our first child. I'm scared that in many be ways the lockdown is starting to disintegrate. As a key worker comparing now to 3 weeks ago and the numbers and range of people out and about has vastly increased. I'm also working with businesses who didn't need to close but did because of fear, poor understanding of the requirements and also to protect staff and do what they thought is the right thing at the start of the lockdown. That goodwill has drained away in the face of getting to a sink or swim point. Reopening with social distancing is the only way forward for many people if they are keep thier business afloat. You don't see much of that in the news currently as it doesn't fit the current narrative. KJ x " | |||
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"Don't misunderstand me, I know how awful this disease is. I know the pain of losing loved ones. ( not to covid ) Surely there is a limit to the amount of death and grief that people can take. I do think it will add to people's mental and emotional deterioration. Unfortunately in these times of soap opera politic and puppet mainstream media the news content has a high emotional focus in an attempt to influence the population (stay in, save life’s etc.). Personally I believe this is an outcome of our own doing ..... the UK mainstream media has, for some years now, seen a meteoric escalation of reality and instant fame entertainment. Sadly we are now reaping in reality what has already been established in our cultural fabric." | |||
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"Since Covid it's endless. Initially I soaked up reporting due to the novelty of the virus. Now i'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable. Just about every death brings the family out to cry on camera. Do we have to share it all ? There really isn't anything exceptional about people grieving and I wish the families the best.... but I don't want to have to go to one more 'mini' funeral. I think it's giving a skewed view of events and diluting the real pain felt by families. " I don't engage with it. For me, grief is a private thing and I don't need to see it to empathise with it. I don't watch the news on the telly, I listen to it on the radio. That's better (to me) because, although there are sad reports, there's more discussion and no pointless visualisation - and you still get real examples of how people are coping with their loss. | |||
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