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By *ebjonnson OP   Man
over a year ago

Maldon

Just spent ages interviewing a truck driver ‘live from his cab in Calais’ about a lovely old lady waving at trucks from a motorway bridge. Nice but really a non story.

Where is the cutting edge journalism and report on how / why Germany are managing so much better than us?

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

That's cutting edge journalism compared to what I just saw: some old boy being presented with a cushion by his nurse. Now there could have been more to the story...but the two minutes i saw made me wonder if there wasn't anything else of importance going on in the world i might worry about.

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By *ebjonnson OP   Man
over a year ago

Maldon


"That's cutting edge journalism compared to what I just saw: some old boy being presented with a cushion by his nurse. Now there could have been more to the story...but the two minutes i saw made me wonder if there wasn't anything else of importance going on in the world i might worry about."

Another example. That’s exactly how I felt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just spent ages interviewing a truck driver ‘live from his cab in Calais’ about a lovely old lady waving at trucks from a motorway bridge. Nice but really a non story.

Where is the cutting edge journalism and report on how / why Germany are managing so much better than us? "

Simple...because they MANUFACTURE stuff. Didn't need to rely on imports of PPE, ventilators, testing materials (large chemical/pharma industry). They were on it from the start...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Multiple news options out there and no broadcaster can spend all day slagging off any government in a time of crisis..

Trying to strike a balance perhaps..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just spent ages interviewing a truck driver ‘live from his cab in Calais’ about a lovely old lady waving at trucks from a motorway bridge. Nice but really a non story.

Where is the cutting edge journalism and report on how / why Germany are managing so much better than us?

Simple...because they MANUFACTURE stuff. Didn't need to rely on imports of PPE, ventilators, testing materials (large chemical/pharma industry). They were on it from the start..."

It's not that they manufacture stuff it's that the Pharma brand who created the test has facilities based in Germany so they have all the materials to test on scale. They have also been lucky (and wise) that they have been able to control this early. Thats pot luck though Pharma brands are based all over the globe.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"That's cutting edge journalism compared to what I just saw: some old boy being presented with a cushion by his nurse. Now there could have been more to the story...but the two minutes i saw made me wonder if there wasn't anything else of importance going on in the world i might worry about."

saw that aswell this morning and thought it was gona be one of those two min fillers they do but had kive interview.did think isnt there anyything else going on in the world.is like the mass shooting yesterday previously it would be rolling news for days on end yet it not even the lead story on most news outlets

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Yes BBC are letting down the national but it's nothing to do with coronavirus

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"That's cutting edge journalism compared to what I just saw: some old boy being presented with a cushion by his nurse. Now there could have been more to the story...but the two minutes i saw made me wonder if there wasn't anything else of importance going on in the world i might worry about."

I know, a little kind of happy two minute story shouldn't be allowed on the news when there's hardly a stich of reporting on things such as the Corona virus going on

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Just spent ages interviewing a truck driver ‘live from his cab in Calais’ about a lovely old lady waving at trucks from a motorway bridge. Nice but really a non story.

Where is the cutting edge journalism and report on how / why Germany are managing so much better than us? "

Well worth every penny I'm forced to pay them for the privilege of owning a tv

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NOT

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes BBC are letting down the national but it's nothing to do with coronavirus "

Yeah it's nothing new.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo

I think the News needs to have light sometimes, once they have reported what they know on the pandemic, it is nice to go to some lighthearted stories

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I think the News needs to have light sometimes, once they have reported what they know on the pandemic, it is nice to go to some lighthearted stories"

This..

The Captain Tom story was heartwarming..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think the News needs to have light sometimes, once they have reported what they know on the pandemic, it is nice to go to some lighthearted stories

This..

The Captain Tom story was heartwarming.. "

Light-hearted stories are great. And the BBC make excellent nature and science based documentaries, which they can only do by being funded they way they are.

But they seems to employ a lot of interviewers that ask lots of weak, non-challenging questions.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo


"I think the News needs to have light sometimes, once they have reported what they know on the pandemic, it is nice to go to some lighthearted stories

This..

The Captain Tom story was heartwarming.. "

It was at the beginning.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo


"

But they seems to employ a lot of interviewers that ask lots of weak, non-challenging questions. "

I think that happens with a lot of them, personally I think members of the public should be allowed to ask the real questions that we want answered

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I think the News needs to have light sometimes, once they have reported what they know on the pandemic, it is nice to go to some lighthearted stories

This..

The Captain Tom story was heartwarming..

It was at the beginning."

Once Mr ball got involved it was off, seemed to turn into a massive look at me I'm a singer..

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo


"I think the News needs to have light sometimes, once they have reported what they know on the pandemic, it is nice to go to some lighthearted stories

This..

The Captain Tom story was heartwarming..

It was at the beginning.

Once Mr ball got involved it was off, seemed to turn into a massive look at me I'm a singer..

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Amongst other things yes

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"I think the News needs to have light sometimes, once they have reported what they know on the pandemic, it is nice to go to some lighthearted stories

This..

The Captain Tom story was heartwarming..

It was at the beginning.

Once Mr ball got involved it was off, seemed to turn into a massive look at me I'm a singer..

"

totally agree

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I guess that all news providers have been either advised to or have chosen not to report whats going on to its full extent so as to play down how bad things are elsewhere and stop people panicking. Also if the newsrooms are operating with minimal staff and the stringers are on lockdown too then maybe reliable sources have dried up? If on the other hand this is just an excuse for another bitchfest about the bbc then I expect all the usual suspects will be crawling out of the woodwork soon!

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"I think the News needs to have light sometimes, once they have reported what they know on the pandemic, it is nice to go to some lighthearted stories"

I agree, that's why there was always the ..."and finally" spot at the end of the news" something light hearted and frivolous, but a whole segment?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also Boris has warned the bbc that they will have to be self-sufficient in the future so they are pussyfooting around atm which is imho a bit weak of the bbc

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo


"I think the News needs to have light sometimes, once they have reported what they know on the pandemic, it is nice to go to some lighthearted stories

I agree, that's why there was always the ..."and finally" spot at the end of the news" something light hearted and frivolous, but a whole segment? "

Well I have an admission, I didn't watch BBC this morning so don't know...I did watch ITV and from what I have seen I think there is normally a mix on there anyway and a shouty shouty man

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

The world is turned upside down when its Piers Morgan is disemboweling ministers on Live TV.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

But they seems to employ a lot of interviewers that ask lots of weak, non-challenging questions.

I think that happens with a lot of them, personally I think members of the public should be allowed to ask the real questions that we want answered "

Indeed.

As an example the previous Labour leader asked questions submitted by the public to the previous PM.

It was great while it lasted.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo


"

If on the other hand this is just an excuse for another bitchfest about the bbc then I expect all the usual suspects will be crawling out of the woodwork soon! "

Lets not keep doing this please, it is provocative and is designed to either stop people from posting or to send the thread a different way. It is also against rules to bitch

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

But they seems to employ a lot of interviewers that ask lots of weak, non-challenging questions.

I think that happens with a lot of them, personally I think members of the public should be allowed to ask the real questions that we want answered

Indeed.

As an example the previous Labour leader asked questions submitted by the public to the previous PM.

It was great while it lasted."

I'm not sure they were genuine but I am a tad cynical, it was a new approach mind..

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod

over a year ago

O o O oo


"The world is turned upside down when its Piers Morgan is disemboweling ministers on Live TV.

"

You know he has some good questions at times, he should let the people answer before questioning them again, all you hear is him shouting and not what he is saying

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The world is turned upside down when its Piers Morgan is disemboweling ministers on Live TV."

I cant abide him but he is the only 1 holding them to account.

Love to see him interview johnson.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"The world is turned upside down when its Piers Morgan is disemboweling ministers on Live TV.

I cant abide him but he is the only 1 holding them to account.

Love to see him interview johnson."

Highly unlikely given he hid from Andrew Neil..

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The world is turned upside down when its Piers Morgan is disemboweling ministers on Live TV.

I cant abide him but he is the only 1 holding them to account.

Love to see him interview johnson.

Highly unlikely given he hid from Andrew Neil..

"

True.

He will probably do sooty and sweep when he Is better.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

I like some light heartedness on the news.I was watching this morning and they had some residents on an estate dressed as Village people and singing YMCA, whilst social distancing, of course! It made me smile

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By *s.KerryTV/TS
over a year ago

Blackpool

Personally I find it rather refreshing to see the occasional story like the ones today as opposed to all the 'doom and gloom' normally reported. Yes said doom and gloom is important I know, and some of it, speculative in the main in the forums, needs to be reported, but in saying that I don't need it rammed down my throat 24/7

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Yes. There are some heart warming stories as well

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"I think the News needs to have light sometimes, once they have reported what they know on the pandemic, it is nice to go to some lighthearted stories

This..

The Captain Tom story was heartwarming.. "

Thank you

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous

The BBC should give everybody 80% off their License Fee. I can't wait for them to go pay as we haven't watched anything BBC in more than 10 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Personally I find it rather refreshing to see the occasional story like the ones today as opposed to all the 'doom and gloom' normally reported. Yes said doom and gloom is important I know, and some of it, speculative in the main in the forums, needs to be reported, but in saying that I don't need it rammed down my throat 24/7 "

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I love the bbc

They have always done the best programmes and even now they are knocking out a few gems

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Many people will get overloaded and not want non-stop covid-19 news - similarly to most forum users spending all their time in this Virus section. They are a public service broadcaster with responsibilities that include local news and probably strive to balance what is for many a worrying and depressing time. If I was elderly and isolated, possibly in a care home, light features of more heartwarming news would be an incredibly welcome relief from concerns that my friends, carers or myself may not have long before we're infected or dead, for example.

They have a broad spectrum of the public that they serve, unlike a commercial subscription channel that has a focus on $.

It's clear that they don't have to be everything to everybody as we have lots of choice available. Their output is streets ahead of the dross that you'll typically face in a market such as the USA, including provision of good radio.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous


"

They have a broad spectrum of the public that they serve, unlike a commercial subscription channel that has a focus on $.

"

But worth noting that the BBC have an income of £3.8 Billion a year in license fee and Government contribution.

With a total of £5.3 Billion for the year 2017-2018.

So no real need to chase thge proverbial 'mighty dollar' of the private companies.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

The BBC is essentially neutered. Nobody is allowed to express any real opinions which unfortunately has made watching it a dull and anodyne experience. I'd rather watch paint dry

However their natural history programming is world class

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The BBC is essentially neutered. Nobody is allowed to express any real opinions which unfortunately has made watching it a dull and anodyne experience. I'd rather watch paint dry

However their natural history programming is world class "

They are in a no win situation..though anyone who thinks it's too left wing really needs to have a word with themselves.

Much prefer the bbc than the likes of sky.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i think this is where having a go at the news dept is an easy whip to have a go at the entire corporation...

for example... BBC local radio is brilliant at this time because it helping with stuff like volunteering and organisation,

BBC childrens dept and especially the education dept have gone into overdrive producing programming to help with stay at home and the national curriculum...

the BBC website.. yes i bet you all read it

BBC entertainment have produced a lot more podcasts all over the shop on a lot of different subjects...

and the iplayer... where programs are normally only allowed to be on the for 30 days, have brought back a whole shed load of programming to the service so people can basically watch brilliant comedy and drama....

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By *ete le MeatMan
over a year ago

Derbyshire/ Notts

Germany are managing better because they have a better leader. I wouldn't let Johnson run a bath.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple
over a year ago

In your bed

There is always room for a personal interest story.

How many ways can you keep putting out the same stories about deaths, ppe, testing and ventilators?

I turn broadcast news off after 2 days of repeat stories, we are now in week 5 and only the numbers change the science and the stories have barely moved on.

Good one about plasma treatment a day or 2 ago but not much else.

That goes for all news including fox news lite (sky news)

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"The BBC is essentially neutered. Nobody is allowed to express any real opinions which unfortunately has made watching it a dull and anodyne experience. I'd rather watch paint dry

However their natural history programming is world class

They are in a no win situation..though anyone who thinks it's too left wing really needs to have a word with themselves.

Much prefer the bbc than the likes of sky."

Both are crap and increasingly irrelevant in the world.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The BBC is essentially neutered. Nobody is allowed to express any real opinions which unfortunately has made watching it a dull and anodyne experience. I'd rather watch paint dry

However their natural history programming is world class

They are in a no win situation..though anyone who thinks it's too left wing really needs to have a word with themselves.

Much prefer the bbc than the likes of sky.

Both are crap and increasingly irrelevant in the world. "

The bbc is a million miles away from sky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think Germany is managing better because they they're more strict.

I know of some guys who were fined €1500 on the spot because they were out where they shouldn't of been.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree and I wouldn't mind paying there are programmes on the bbc I do enjoy. However this is a hidden stealth tax. We should have freedom of choice to pay or not..

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich


"The BBC is essentially neutered. Nobody is allowed to express any real opinions which unfortunately has made watching it a dull and anodyne experience. I'd rather watch paint dry

However their natural history programming is world class

They are in a no win situation..though anyone who thinks it's too left wing really needs to have a word with themselves.

Much prefer the bbc than the likes of sky."

I didn't say anything about them being left wing or otherwise so not sure why you mentioned that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I agree and I wouldn't mind paying there are programmes on the bbc I do enjoy. However this is a hidden stealth tax. We should have freedom of choice to pay or not.. "

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The BBC is essentially neutered. Nobody is allowed to express any real opinions which unfortunately has made watching it a dull and anodyne experience. I'd rather watch paint dry

However their natural history programming is world class

They are in a no win situation..though anyone who thinks it's too left wing really needs to have a word with themselves.

Much prefer the bbc than the likes of sky.

I didn't say anything about them being left wing or otherwise so not sure why you mentioned that "

I know

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By *illy999TV/TS
over a year ago

Taunton


"That's cutting edge journalism compared to what I just saw: some old boy being presented with a cushion by his nurse. Now there could have been more to the story...but the two minutes i saw made me wonder if there wasn't anything else of importance going on in the world i might worry about."

Yes there's plenty going on , it's called trumpty-dumbty goes to Fox news & tells more fairy tales , compulsive viewing..

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence. "

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"The BBC is essentially neutered. Nobody is allowed to express any real opinions which unfortunately has made watching it a dull and anodyne experience. I'd rather watch paint dry

However their natural history programming is world class

They are in a no win situation..though anyone who thinks it's too left wing really needs to have a word with themselves.

Much prefer the bbc than the likes of sky.

I didn't say anything about them being left wing or otherwise so not sure why you mentioned that

I know"

Can't scroll the front page without seeing a pink haired vegan talking about how she's stopped wiping her arse and started free bleeding to fight climate change and patriarchy at the same time

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The BBC is essentially neutered. Nobody is allowed to express any real opinions which unfortunately has made watching it a dull and anodyne experience. I'd rather watch paint dry

However their natural history programming is world class

They are in a no win situation..though anyone who thinks it's too left wing really needs to have a word with themselves.

Much prefer the bbc than the likes of sky.

I didn't say anything about them being left wing or otherwise so not sure why you mentioned that

I know

Can't scroll the front page without seeing a pink haired vegan talking about how she's stopped wiping her arse and started free bleeding to fight climate change and patriarchy at the same time"

Oh dear

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"The BBC is essentially neutered. Nobody is allowed to express any real opinions which unfortunately has made watching it a dull and anodyne experience. I'd rather watch paint dry

However their natural history programming is world class

They are in a no win situation..though anyone who thinks it's too left wing really needs to have a word with themselves.

Much prefer the bbc than the likes of sky.

I didn't say anything about them being left wing or otherwise so not sure why you mentioned that

I know

Can't scroll the front page without seeing a pink haired vegan talking about how she's stopped wiping her arse and started free bleeding to fight climate change and patriarchy at the same time"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The BBC is essentially neutered. Nobody is allowed to express any real opinions which unfortunately has made watching it a dull and anodyne experience. I'd rather watch paint dry

However their natural history programming is world class

They are in a no win situation..though anyone who thinks it's too left wing really needs to have a word with themselves.

Much prefer the bbc than the likes of sky.

I didn't say anything about them being left wing or otherwise so not sure why you mentioned that

I know

Can't scroll the front page without seeing a pink haired vegan talking about how she's stopped wiping her arse and started free bleeding to fight climate change and patriarchy at the same time"

Really? What particular version of good old aunty beeb have you been watching?

Seems to me that the bbc is caught between a rock and a hard place.

So many people on here moaning about how much they have to pay for it yet as _abio explained admirably, it provides a much larger and more wide ranging service with high local content particularly in radio. Compared to sky it is relatively cheap and although it is struggling with being priced out of the game (sports in particular) by sky, bt, amazon etc it is still one of the finest broadcasters in the world. The idea behind the bbc is that it provides a universal service for a relatively low price (a bit like the nhs) and it strikes me that most people get that but the libertarians amongst you seem to feel you are cheated by having to pay for it you tight lot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?"

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The BBC is essentially neutered. Nobody is allowed to express any real opinions which unfortunately has made watching it a dull and anodyne experience. I'd rather watch paint dry

However their natural history programming is world class

They are in a no win situation..though anyone who thinks it's too left wing really needs to have a word with themselves.

Much prefer the bbc than the likes of sky.

I didn't say anything about them being left wing or otherwise so not sure why you mentioned that

I know

Can't scroll the front page without seeing a pink haired vegan talking about how she's stopped wiping her arse and started free bleeding to fight climate change and patriarchy at the same time"

Ha. I think that happens if you have malware on your laptop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't always like their news reporting as editorially they have started employing a lot of right wing journalists in senior positions of late. I don't watch their children's programmes as I'm not a child and there aren't any in the house but I appreciate that there are millions who do.

I don't enjoy all of their dramas but there are some which are excellent. I only listen to a couple of their radio stations but I understand that there are lots of different tastes out there. Again, some of their documentaries aren't to my taste but a lot of them are, same with quiz shows and comedy.

I think to appreciate the BBC all you really need to understand is that not every fucking thing is about you.

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By *ebjonnson OP   Man
over a year ago

Maldon

There’s a lot that I like and admire about the BBC. The editorial side of things is increasingly difficult but that applies to much of the media.

I wonder if politicians have become more cautious and savvy. They certainly haven’t forgotten how they were exposed a decade back on expenses. Both sides by the way. The incredible sense of entitlement at the time was beyond belief and they probably still feel they didn’t do anything wrong. Perhaps we just have too many - why do we need 650 MP’s ?

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I just find the bbc so 'middle of the road'

Nothing really daring or innovative, although it wasn't always like that

I actually think it all went tits up after the Ross/Brand debacle and by trying to please everyone they're in danger of pleasing no one

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I just find the bbc so 'middle of the road'

Nothing really daring or innovative, although it wasn't always like that

I actually think it all went tits up after the Ross/Brand debacle and by trying to please everyone they're in danger of pleasing no one"

They have some great stuff on bbc3..fleabag,this country,dectectorists eyc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?"

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices.

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By *elly babesCouple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Just spent ages interviewing a truck driver ‘live from his cab in Calais’ about a lovely old lady waving at trucks from a motorway bridge. Nice but really a non story.

Where is the cutting edge journalism and report on how / why Germany are managing so much better than us? "

Dominic Cummins ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just find the bbc so 'middle of the road'

Nothing really daring or innovative, although it wasn't always like that

I actually think it all went tits up after the Ross/Brand debacle and by trying to please everyone they're in danger of pleasing no one

They have some great stuff on bbc3..fleabag,this country,dectectorists eyc"

The Detectorists was so good.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I just find the bbc so 'middle of the road'

Nothing really daring or innovative, although it wasn't always like that

I actually think it all went tits up after the Ross/Brand debacle and by trying to please everyone they're in danger of pleasing no one

They have some great stuff on bbc3..fleabag,this country,dectectorists eyc

The Detectorists was so good."

Watch this country..its superb

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices. "

If your device is capable of watching any live broadcast TV you have to pay for a license.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices.

If your device is capable of watching any live broadcast TV you have to pay for a license."

You are kind of both right and both wrong on technicality

You can own a device (including a tv) but if you do not watch or recordd any live tv or use iplayer then can declare so and opt out of the license

For example i can have a tv for netflix no problem

However even if i don’t have a tv but i have a now tv subscription used on my phone to watch sky one live , then i would be liable for tv license

I think its correct that you dont really have the choice ... its pretty much pay for bbc or be restricted from live use of any provider

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich


"I just find the bbc so 'middle of the road'

Nothing really daring or innovative, although it wasn't always like that

I actually think it all went tits up after the Ross/Brand debacle and by trying to please everyone they're in danger of pleasing no one

They have some great stuff on bbc3..fleabag,this country,dectectorists eyc"

Sounds more like my kind of thing and the Detectorists does come highly recommended

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices.

If your device is capable of watching any live broadcast TV you have to pay for a license."

Oh aye. I googled it. Any device for live TV. You're right.

Anyway what are we arguing about other than that?

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices.

If your device is capable of watching any live broadcast TV you have to pay for a license.

Oh aye. I googled it. Any device for live TV. You're right.

Anyway what are we arguing about other than that?"

Lol. I'm not arguing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices.

If your device is capable of watching any live broadcast TV you have to pay for a license.

Oh aye. I googled it. Any device for live TV. You're right.

Anyway what are we arguing about other than that?

Lol. I'm not arguing. "

Sweet. Then in conclusion. I learned that I should probably buy a TV licence. Lol.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices.

If your device is capable of watching any live broadcast TV you have to pay for a license.

Oh aye. I googled it. Any device for live TV. You're right.

Anyway what are we arguing about other than that?

Lol. I'm not arguing.

Sweet. Then in conclusion. I learned that I should probably buy a TV licence. Lol."

Given this admission you are currently a tax dodger ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices.

If your device is capable of watching any live broadcast TV you have to pay for a license.

Oh aye. I googled it. Any device for live TV. You're right.

Anyway what are we arguing about other than that?

Lol. I'm not arguing.

Sweet. Then in conclusion. I learned that I should probably buy a TV licence. Lol.

Given this admission you are currently a tax dodger ??

"

Only if you class the TV licence as tax.

Then if so yes.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices.

If your device is capable of watching any live broadcast TV you have to pay for a license.

Oh aye. I googled it. Any device for live TV. You're right.

Anyway what are we arguing about other than that?

Lol. I'm not arguing.

Sweet. Then in conclusion. I learned that I should probably buy a TV licence. Lol.

Given this admission you are currently a tax dodger ??

"

I currently have to pay for 4 !!!

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

Halloween Decks are up and looking fabulous


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices.

If your device is capable of watching any live broadcast TV you have to pay for a license.

Oh aye. I googled it. Any device for live TV. You're right.

Anyway what are we arguing about other than that?

Lol. I'm not arguing.

Sweet. Then in conclusion. I learned that I should probably buy a TV licence. Lol.

Given this admission you are currently a tax dodger ??

I currently have to pay for 4 !!!

"

Do they still havde vans going around? Probably a man with a Iphone or Android phone these days lol

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices.

If your device is capable of watching any live broadcast TV you have to pay for a license.

Oh aye. I googled it. Any device for live TV. You're right.

Anyway what are we arguing about other than that?

Lol. I'm not arguing.

Sweet. Then in conclusion. I learned that I should probably buy a TV licence. Lol.

Given this admission you are currently a tax dodger ??

Only if you class the TV licence as tax.

Then if so yes."

Lol - thankfully for the purposes of my light hearted leg pulling humour - it is

It was reclassified as being a Tax in 2006

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

MK

BBC is a waste and biased corporation, exactly why i stopped paying years back, not worth a penny, just wish others would wake up to it and do the same.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"BBC is a waste and biased corporation, exactly why i stopped paying years back, not worth a penny, just wish others would wake up to it and do the same."

Biased in what way?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"BBC is a waste and biased corporation, exactly why i stopped paying years back, not worth a penny, just wish others would wake up to it and do the same."

Why?

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire

When it comes to general programming the BBC still comes up with a few gems - I’m thinking Race Across The World most recently. It does frustrate me how they find something that seems to work then exploit it in every way possible - I’m thinking the number of antique / auction shows here.

With regard to news - those leaning left see them as biased to the right and those to the right see them leaning to the right. The reality is they are probably somewhere in the middle...which is exactly where they should be as a National broadcaster.

Personally I have 2 main criticisms when it comes to news - the obsession to have someone reporting from whatever they’re talking about and the need for reporters to put their own spin on their stories.

All too often these reports are nothing but conjecture and personal opinion. Some editors need to realise the news is the story - not them.

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By *moothmfMan
over a year ago

croydon.

I must be as thick as shit, me.......I thought the poster meant us black guys hadn't been performing very well !

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"When it comes to general programming the BBC still comes up with a few gems - I’m thinking Race Across The World most recently. It does frustrate me how they find something that seems to work then exploit it in every way possible - I’m thinking the number of antique / auction shows here.

With regard to news - those leaning left see them as biased to the right and those to the right see them leaning to the right. The reality is they are probably somewhere in the middle...which is exactly where they should be as a National broadcaster.

Personally I have 2 main criticisms when it comes to news - the obsession to have someone reporting from whatever they’re talking about and the need for reporters to put their own spin on their stories.

All too often these reports are nothing but conjecture and personal opinion. Some editors need to realise the news is the story - not them. "

When you see a debate between a commy and a fascist, the truth isn't somewhere in between, it's an entirely different thing that neither the commy or the facist will acknowledge.

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By *oirinMarkusCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands and West London

[Removed by poster at 22/04/20 10:47:28]

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By *oirinMarkusCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands and West London

[Removed by poster at 22/04/20 10:47:31]

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By *oirinMarkusCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands and West London


"I must be as thick as shit, me.......I thought the poster meant us black guys hadn't been performing very well ! "

I literally came here to read about the OP being let down by a melanated gentleman at a meet....

But I stayed and learnt that the TV licence was reclassified as a tax in 2006

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By *ucianpoundCouple
over a year ago

Cap d’Agde, France

If you want news it’s a waste of time watching the BBC.

These days CNN, Al Jazeera, even Sky provides better more informed Journalism.

The BBC is no better than Fox when it comes to impartial reporting.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"If you want news it’s a waste of time watching the BBC.

These days CNN, Al Jazeera, even Sky provides better more informed Journalism.

The BBC is no better than Fox when it comes to impartial reporting."

So sky is impartial and the bbc isnt?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The BBC has a political agenda.

They are Remainers, Climate obsessed, anti Trump and peddle too much propoganda for my tastes. They pay inflated salaries. I tune into match of the day to watch the highlights, not to listen to overpaid presenters.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"The BBC has a political agenda.

They are Remainers, Climate obsessed, anti Trump and peddle too much propoganda for my tastes. They pay inflated salaries. I tune into match of the day to watch the highlights, not to listen to overpaid presenters.

"

Do you have any proof of this?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When it comes to general programming the BBC still comes up with a few gems - I’m thinking Race Across The World most recently. It does frustrate me how they find something that seems to work then exploit it in every way possible - I’m thinking the number of antique / auction shows here.

With regard to news - those leaning left see them as biased to the right and those to the right see them leaning to the right. The reality is they are probably somewhere in the middle...which is exactly where they should be as a National broadcaster.

Personally I have 2 main criticisms when it comes to news - the obsession to have someone reporting from whatever they’re talking about and the need for reporters to put their own spin on their stories.

All too often these reports are nothing but conjecture and personal opinion. Some editors need to realise the news is the story - not them.

When you see a debate between a commy and a fascist, the truth isn't somewhere in between, it's an entirely different thing that neither the commy or the facist will acknowledge. "

What do you mean?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Same with these so called political interviews. It's always about the interviewer.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I would slash their funding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The BBC has a political agenda.

They are Remainers, Climate obsessed, anti Trump and peddle too much propoganda for my tastes. They pay inflated salaries. I tune into match of the day to watch the highlights, not to listen to overpaid presenters.

"

So why dont you pay to watch the news you want, or better still just accept that your world view is perhaps different from others and you might not be in the majority on this. The bbc charter enshrines impartiality in its reporting of the news - if you would rather news was bland or unquestioning of government there are plenty of other places you can go - russia today, fox news, the peoples daily of north korea

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I would slash their funding.

"

I'd give them more

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

These were the clowns paying their male presenters far more than women presenters..

And they preach equal opportunity .. hypocrisy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Same with these so called political interviews. It's always about the interviewer.

"

Is it, which interviewers are you talking about?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would slash their funding.

I'd give them more"

Totally agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"These were the clowns paying their male presenters far more than women presenters..

And they preach equal opportunity .. hypocrisy"

So you're looking for a news station which is:

Pro-Brexit

Anti-environment

Pro-Trump

Pro-feminist

Good luck with that.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I would slash their funding.

I'd give them more

Totally agree. "

Goes for a lie down

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke


"When it comes to general programming the BBC still comes up with a few gems - I’m thinking Race Across The World most recently. It does frustrate me how they find something that seems to work then exploit it in every way possible - I’m thinking the number of antique / auction shows here.

With regard to news - those leaning left see them as biased to the right and those to the right see them leaning to the right. The reality is they are probably somewhere in the middle...which is exactly where they should be as a National broadcaster.

Personally I have 2 main criticisms when it comes to news - the obsession to have someone reporting from whatever they’re talking about and the need for reporters to put their own spin on their stories.

All too often these reports are nothing but conjecture and personal opinion. Some editors need to realise the news is the story - not them.

When you see a debate between a commy and a fascist, the truth isn't somewhere in between, it's an entirely different thing that neither the commy or the facist will acknowledge.

What do you mean?"

The logic being presented is that if we listen to Alex Jones and then David Icke that somehow the truth will be in between what they said. No, they both talk utter shit and there's very little to be gained by listening to either of them. If one person says it's raining, you don't need to invite another person on who thinks it isn't raining. It's either fucking raining or it's not.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I would slash their funding.

I'd give them more

Totally agree. "

Just BBC4, Radio 4 and the various news services are worth it to me.

I'd definitely be happy for the BBC to get greater overall funding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At first I thought that you were referring to men of colour not living up to expectations.

But, I do agree with your point.

When I was younger journalists used to investigate the issues behind a story. Nowadays journalists are merely required to bleat in tune with popular sentiment.

Best wishes

Victor M

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would slash their funding.

I'd give them more

Totally agree.

Goes for a lie down"

Twice in a week! People will start to talk

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I would slash their funding.

I'd give them more

Totally agree.

Goes for a lie down

Twice in a week! People will start to talk "

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

I just turned on the TV

Bbc

Andrew marr show

I hope to bring "new" news

What do they do ?

Read out this mornings fucking newspapers

What sort of journalist gets his "news" from the newspaper

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I just turned on the TV

Bbc

Andrew marr show

I hope to bring "new" news

What do they do ?

Read out this mornings fucking newspapers

What sort of journalist gets his "news" from the newspaper"

Dont they review the papers?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just spent ages interviewing a truck driver ‘live from his cab in Calais’ about a lovely old lady waving at trucks from a motorway bridge. Nice but really a non story.

Where is the cutting edge journalism and report on how / why Germany are managing so much better than us?

Well worth every penny I'm forced to pay them for the privilege of owning a tv

.

.

.

NOT"

I called them told then i dont use ther channel nor any terastrail tv. They sropped payments for 2 years

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"I just turned on the TV

Bbc

Andrew marr show

I hope to bring "new" news

What do they do ?

Read out this mornings fucking newspapers

What sort of journalist gets his "news" from the newspaper

Dont they review the papers?

"

More regurgitate than review imho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just turned on the TV

Bbc

Andrew marr show

I hope to bring "new" news

What do they do ?

Read out this mornings fucking newspapers

What sort of journalist gets his "news" from the newspaper

Dont they review the papers?

"

Yep. Thats why they call it a newspaper review. If the guy hung around he would have seen him interviewing a professor from oxford who is working on the tracing app. He would have seen him interview a German politician, the Swedish Deputy Prime Minister, The Scottish First minister oh and the Foriegn Secretary.

But apart from that what have the BBC ever done for us.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"I just turned on the TV

Bbc

Andrew marr show

I hope to bring "new" news

What do they do ?

Read out this mornings fucking newspapers

What sort of journalist gets his "news" from the newspaper

Dont they review the papers?

Yep. Thats why they call it a newspaper review. If the guy hung around he would have seen him interviewing a professor from oxford who is working on the tracing app. He would have seen him interview a German politician, the Swedish Deputy Prime Minister, The Scottish First minister oh and the Foriegn Secretary.

But apart from that what have the BBC ever done for us."

Nothing that wasn't on the internet yesterday then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I just turned on the TV

Bbc

Andrew marr show

I hope to bring "new" news

What do they do ?

Read out this mornings fucking newspapers

What sort of journalist gets his "news" from the newspaper

Dont they review the papers?

Yep. Thats why they call it a newspaper review. If the guy hung around he would have seen him interviewing a professor from oxford who is working on the tracing app. He would have seen him interview a German politician, the Swedish Deputy Prime Minister, The Scottish First minister oh and the Foriegn Secretary.

But apart from that what have the BBC ever done for us.

Nothing that wasn't on the internet yesterday then "

So is it only the BBC who are only allowed to report information not on the internet or do you hold all news outlets to the same standards.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I just turned on the TV

Bbc

Andrew marr show

I hope to bring "new" news

What do they do ?

Read out this mornings fucking newspapers

What sort of journalist gets his "news" from the newspaper

Dont they review the papers?

Yep. Thats why they call it a newspaper review. If the guy hung around he would have seen him interviewing a professor from oxford who is working on the tracing app. He would have seen him interview a German politician, the Swedish Deputy Prime Minister, The Scottish First minister oh and the Foriegn Secretary.

But apart from that what have the BBC ever done for us.

Nothing that wasn't on the internet yesterday then "

Most news reports do a review The papers section.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"I just turned on the TV

Bbc

Andrew marr show

I hope to bring "new" news

What do they do ?

Read out this mornings fucking newspapers

What sort of journalist gets his "news" from the newspaper

Dont they review the papers?

Yep. Thats why they call it a newspaper review. If the guy hung around he would have seen him interviewing a professor from oxford who is working on the tracing app. He would have seen him interview a German politician, the Swedish Deputy Prime Minister, The Scottish First minister oh and the Foriegn Secretary.

But apart from that what have the BBC ever done for us.

Nothing that wasn't on the internet yesterday then

Most news reports do a review The papers section."

I suppose it saves them spending tax payers money on real journalism but hey ho

Nearly said unbiased there ooops

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They also spend £136,000 a year buying the guardian new paper for all its employees, or should I say we do. Oh well they have to get their news from somewhere.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"They also spend £136,000 a year buying the guardian new paper for all its employees, or should I say we do. Oh well they have to get their news from somewhere. "

Please tell me that you are joking..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They also spend £136,000 a year buying the guardian new paper for all its employees, or should I say we do. Oh well they have to get their news from somewhere.

Please tell me that you are joking.. "

no its on their wedsite under costs 2018/2019 along with £600,000 for employees taxis . You couldn't make it up what a gray train.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"They also spend £136,000 a year buying the guardian new paper for all its employees, or should I say we do. Oh well they have to get their news from somewhere.

Please tell me that you are joking.. no its on their wedsite under costs 2018/2019 along with £600,000 for employees taxis . You couldn't make it up what a gray train. "

Bit of a misleading story this..The guardian is the most ordered paper from the bbc.Other papers are bought but the guardian is the most popular.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i think this is where having a go at the news dept is an easy whip to have a go at the entire corporation...

for example... BBC local radio is brilliant at this time because it helping with stuff like volunteering and organisation,

BBC childrens dept and especially the education dept have gone into overdrive producing programming to help with stay at home and the national curriculum...

the BBC website.. yes i bet you all read it

BBC entertainment have produced a lot more podcasts all over the shop on a lot of different subjects...

and the iplayer... where programs are normally only allowed to be on the for 30 days, have brought back a whole shed load of programming to the service so people can basically watch brilliant comedy and drama....

"

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I don't know any other job where they buy you papers ..

Why oh why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works. "

A lot of jobs have perks (look at the big fuck off bonuses some people get)

Yet a free newspaper is a scandal?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works.

A lot of jobs have perks (look at the big fuck off bonuses some people get)

Yet a free newspaper is a scandal?"

Exactly - complete lunacy being spouted in here for a change lol. Even my dentist has free daily newspapers, so to say that a media company like the bbc should not is frankly pathetic

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works.

A lot of jobs have perks (look at the big fuck off bonuses some people get)

Yet a free newspaper is a scandal?

Exactly - complete lunacy being spouted in here for a change lol. Even my dentist has free daily newspapers, so to say that a media company like the bbc should not is frankly pathetic "

Easy stick to beat it with though isnt it?

It's a good job the gmnt dont waste any money.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works.

A lot of jobs have perks (look at the big fuck off bonuses some people get)

Yet a free newspaper is a scandal?

Exactly - complete lunacy being spouted in here for a change lol. Even my dentist has free daily newspapers, so to say that a media company like the bbc should not is frankly pathetic

Easy stick to beat it with though isnt it?

It's a good job the gmnt dont waste any money."

Hmmm....where’s Chris Grayling when you need to catch a ferry eh?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works.

A lot of jobs have perks (look at the big fuck off bonuses some people get)

Yet a free newspaper is a scandal?

Exactly - complete lunacy being spouted in here for a change lol. Even my dentist has free daily newspapers, so to say that a media company like the bbc should not is frankly pathetic

Easy stick to beat it with though isnt it?

It's a good job the gmnt dont waste any money.

Hmmm....where’s Chris Grayling when you need to catch a ferry eh? "

Its amazing what he has got away with.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works.

A lot of jobs have perks (look at the big fuck off bonuses some people get)

Yet a free newspaper is a scandal?"

But the perks come out of our money or are you ok with that.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works.

A lot of jobs have perks (look at the big fuck off bonuses some people get)

Yet a free newspaper is a scandal?But the perks come out of our money or are you ok with that. "

You think we should decide what they spend their money on?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works.

A lot of jobs have perks (look at the big fuck off bonuses some people get)

Yet a free newspaper is a scandal?But the perks come out of our money or are you ok with that. "

Have you ever worked for the bbc or any other media company? Do you know how they operate on a day to day basis? Do you think that many other big companies spend money on newspapers and magazines? Do the bbc also have successful magazine publishing? Do you understand that the media is constantly looking at itself and the world around it. Do you understand that the bbc produces, film, television, radio, websites, magazines, etc. Do you see that you might be a bit out of your comfort zone when it comes to understanding their business?

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"

We currently have freedom of choice with the TV licence.

How do we have freedom of choice with the TV license?

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence.

Well, it's not compulsory to own a TV. If you don't own a TV, you don't have to pay for a licence. "

But that isn't real is it? Everyone does own a TV or have access to the internet with a laptop or Mobile phone. So all the people who do not want to pay for a TV License should get rid of their TV's and Phones and Laptops?

And watch any pay service how?

You don't need a TV licence to watch stuff on your phone, laptop or on your computer screen. Unless you want to watch BBC iPlayer.

You're free to watch your pay service on any of those devices.

If your device is capable of watching any live broadcast TV you have to pay for a license."

TV Licensing have for years tried to trick people. The act simply states you need a licence if you have equipment configured to receive tv signals. You don’t have to even let them in to check , they have to prove you broke the law. You can own and configure a tv so it’s not capable of receiving tv signals I.e pull the Airel lead out

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works.

A lot of jobs have perks (look at the big fuck off bonuses some people get)

Yet a free newspaper is a scandal?But the perks come out of our money or are you ok with that.

Have you ever worked for the bbc or any other media company? Do you know how they operate on a day to day basis? Do you think that many other big companies spend money on newspapers and magazines? Do the bbc also have successful magazine publishing? Do you understand that the media is constantly looking at itself and the world around it. Do you understand that the bbc produces, film, television, radio, websites, magazines, etc. Do you see that you might be a bit out of your comfort zone when it comes to understanding their business? "

Don’t know if it’s still the case but most of the licence fee used to be spent on R4 & BBC2 etc as the better quality programmes cost so much more to make.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works.

A lot of jobs have perks (look at the big fuck off bonuses some people get)

Yet a free newspaper is a scandal?But the perks come out of our money or are you ok with that.

You think we should decide what they spend their money on?"

The money should be spent responsibly and the spenders held accountable for that spend.. hopefully the gravy train will soon be over

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So you think a media business with offices and studios all over the country (and world) shouldn’t spend money on keeping up with their competitors? How much do you think the big investment firms and banks based in the city or docklands spend on taxis? Muppetry and whataboutery of the first order being spouted here by prople who have no knowledge of how the bbc works.

A lot of jobs have perks (look at the big fuck off bonuses some people get)

Yet a free newspaper is a scandal?But the perks come out of our money or are you ok with that.

You think we should decide what they spend their money on?

The money should be spent responsibly and the spenders held accountable for that spend.. hopefully the gravy train will soon be over "

Gravy train? You haven’t got a clue have you? Oh dear

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any correlation between those who would get rid of the Been and those who would break up the NHS??

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South


"Any correlation between those who would get rid of the Been and those who would break up the NHS??"

Not here. The NHS needs a few more nurses and a few less managers but it should be protected.

The BBC though should go advertising/subscription. Most of us pay for subscription services anyway and it should be factored into those. If you want it you pay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i am fascinated how "I hate the BBC news division" so much that i want to get rid of the entire BBC full stop...

BBC childrens dept.....

BBC natural History Department.....

BBC local radio.....

in fact.... BBC local output full stop!!!

most of you in this thread have become so focused on one section... it clouds your entire picture...

well bloody done!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any correlation between those who would get rid of the Been and those who would break up the NHS??

Not here. The NHS needs a few more nurses and a few less managers but it should be protected.

The BBC though should go advertising/subscription. Most of us pay for subscription services anyway and it should be factored into those. If you want it you pay. "

Actually, should of asked those who want the BBC to go and those who voted Leave...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"i am fascinated how "I hate the BBC news division" so much that i want to get rid of the entire BBC full stop...

BBC childrens dept.....

BBC natural History Department.....

BBC local radio.....

in fact.... BBC local output full stop!!!

most of you in this thread have become so focused on one section... it clouds your entire picture...

well bloody done!!!! "

The Daily Mail better watch out, the way it's holding the government's feet to the fire, that will be next in the firing line..

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"Any correlation between those who would get rid of the Been and those who would break up the NHS??

Not here. The NHS needs a few more nurses and a few less managers but it should be protected.

The BBC though should go advertising/subscription. Most of us pay for subscription services anyway and it should be factored into those. If you want it you pay. "

The BBC operates on a different business model and serves a totally different function than Netflix/Amazon/Sky/Disney......

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South


"Any correlation between those who would get rid of the Been and those who would break up the NHS??

Not here. The NHS needs a few more nurses and a few less managers but it should be protected.

The BBC though should go advertising/subscription. Most of us pay for subscription services anyway and it should be factored into those. If you want it you pay.

Actually, should of asked those who want the BBC to go and those who voted Leave..."

Still wrong here. Brexit is a stupider idea than eating bats in China.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Trump and the Pentagon admit to UFO's and it barely causes a ripple in the pond. Hello!Is Anybody out there???

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pentagon-ufo-video-released-declassified-navy-footage-watch-a9487276.html

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South


"Trump and the Pentagon admit to UFO's and it barely causes a ripple in the pond. Hello!Is Anybody out there???

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pentagon-ufo-video-released-declassified-navy-footage-watch-a9487276.html"

It's not news. We all knew it was true anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any correlation between those who would get rid of the Been and those who would break up the NHS??

Not here. The NHS needs a few more nurses and a few less managers but it should be protected.

The BBC though should go advertising/subscription. Most of us pay for subscription services anyway and it should be factored into those. If you want it you pay.

Actually, should of asked those who want the BBC to go and those who voted Leave...

Still wrong here. Brexit is a stupider idea than eating bats in China. "

Agreed with Brexit, I think you are in the minority though...

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By *ierre1Man
over a year ago

Hinckley

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By *he riverdeep69Couple
over a year ago

North west ish


"That's cutting edge journalism compared to what I just saw: some old boy being presented with a cushion by his nurse. Now there could have been more to the story...but the two minutes i saw made me wonder if there wasn't anything else of importance going on in the world i might worry about."

Was that the 'old boy'with dementia who cuddles a picture of his dead wife, so the health care support worker got a cushion with his wife's face on it. The joy on his face was the story. Nice to see a feel good story at this time. I saw it. For that 'old boy' it was important, and maybe helps other families with dementia sufferers, which is also important.

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South


"Any correlation between those who would get rid of the Been and those who would break up the NHS??

Not here. The NHS needs a few more nurses and a few less managers but it should be protected.

The BBC though should go advertising/subscription. Most of us pay for subscription services anyway and it should be factored into those. If you want it you pay.

Actually, should of asked those who want the BBC to go and those who voted Leave...

Still wrong here. Brexit is a stupider idea than eating bats in China.

Agreed with Brexit, I think you are in the minority though..."

Ok, maybe the bats have a slight edge...

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By *ierre1Man
over a year ago

Hinckley


"i am fascinated how "I hate the BBC news division" so much that i want to get rid of the entire BBC full stop...

BBC childrens dept.....

BBC natural History Department.....

BBC local radio.....

in fact.... BBC local output full stop!!!

most of you in this thread have become so focused on one section... it clouds your entire picture...

well bloody done!!!! "

Well said!

People don't miss stuff until it's gone. The BBC is one of this countries finest institutions and other countries envy it. Go and ask an American about public service broadcasting.

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By *ussex team upMan
over a year ago

Sussex


"Any correlation between those who would get rid of the Been and those who would break up the NHS??

Not here. The NHS needs a few more nurses and a few less managers but it should be protected.

The BBC though should go advertising/subscription. Most of us pay for subscription services anyway and it should be factored into those. If you want it you pay.

Actually, should of asked those who want the BBC to go and those who voted Leave...

Still wrong here. Brexit is a stupider idea than eating bats in China.

Agreed with Brexit, I think you are in the minority though..."

Are people still fixated on old issues , think we have more important issues to think about . Brexit will prove to be good long term and just as the MAJORITY wanted

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"That's cutting edge journalism compared to what I just saw: some old boy being presented with a cushion by his nurse. Now there could have been more to the story...but the two minutes i saw made me wonder if there wasn't anything else of importance going on in the world i might worry about.

Was that the 'old boy'with dementia who cuddles a picture of his dead wife, so the health care support worker got a cushion with his wife's face on it. The joy on his face was the story. Nice to see a feel good story at this time. I saw it. For that 'old boy' it was important, and maybe helps other families with dementia sufferers, which is also important. "

,

I loved that story and made me think of my dad, who kisses my mum's photo every morning and night think I might get him a cushion

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By *d4ugirlsMan
over a year ago

Green Cove Springs


"Yes BBC are letting down the national but it's nothing to do with coronavirus "

It appears most all journalist are going to tabloid journalism and thinking people care about their opinion.

Missing the days when journalist's reported the facts and circumstances and let us develop our own opinion and not try and bias our opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any correlation between those who would get rid of the Been and those who would break up the NHS??

Not here. The NHS needs a few more nurses and a few less managers but it should be protected.

The BBC though should go advertising/subscription. Most of us pay for subscription services anyway and it should be factored into those. If you want it you pay.

Actually, should of asked those who want the BBC to go and those who voted Leave...

Still wrong here. Brexit is a stupider idea than eating bats in China.

Agreed with Brexit, I think you are in the minority though...

Are people still fixated on old issues , think we have more important issues to think about . Brexit will prove to be good long term and just as the MAJORITY wanted "

How long is long term??

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South

MAJORITY in this case was 37% of the population.

I'm not a mathematician but I'm fairly sure that 63 37.

I really hope you're right and it turns out ok but I've seen no evidence in the last 4 years to support that.

Anyway, back on topic - The BBC has really good content in several areas but making people pay for it who don't use it is wrong.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr


"They also spend £136,000 a year buying the guardian new paper for all its employees, or should I say we do. Oh well they have to get their news from somewhere.

Please tell me that you are joking.. no its on their wedsite under costs 2018/2019 along with £600,000 for employees taxis . You couldn't make it up what a gray train.

Bit of a misleading story this..The guardian is the most ordered paper from the bbc.Other papers are bought but the guardian is the most popular."

Speaking of newspapers; the licence fee costs less than 43p a day - if you pay it at all. That's cheaper than all but four of the UK's newspapers - and some of them, you only get on a Sunday.

Clearly, given the range of world, UK and local content the BBC provides on television, radio and online - it is better value for money than any newspaper - and I'm sure the owners of The Sun and The Daily Mail are grateful for the BBC's business.

The BBC's output and spending are regulated and scrutinised to a far stricter level than any newspaper, too.

If you really hate the BBC because it doesn't reflect your political views and/or it's wasting money you're having to pay as a tax; then tough fucking shit!

Find something that's really worth complaining about - like why your government, despite having detailed plans for dealing with a pandemic, failed to implement them due to the financial cost of being prepared.

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South


"Speaking of newspapers; the licence fee costs less than 43p a day - if you pay it at all. That's cheaper than all but four of the UK's newspapers - and some of them, you only get on a Sunday.

Clearly, given the range of world, UK and local content the BBC provides on television, radio and online - it is better value for money than any newspaper - and I'm sure the owners of The Sun and The Daily Mail are grateful for the BBC's business.

The BBC's output and spending are regulated and scrutinised to a far stricter level than any newspaper, too.

If you really hate the BBC because it doesn't reflect your political views and/or it's wasting money you're having to pay as a tax; then tough fucking shit!

Find something that's really worth complaining about - like why your government, despite having detailed plans for dealing with a pandemic, failed to implement them due to the financial cost of being prepared."

I can multi-task. I can be angry about several things at once

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWPsvsXUNeY&fbclid=IwAR0n2CwwsJBetJni3m8OxTWqSXy8_81fR_pofJhYYq82G6EoQs_IWn29lEA

Dont know if this is allowed but watch from 50 seconds onwards oh dear lol.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"MAJORITY in this case was 37% of the population.

I'm not a mathematician but I'm fairly sure that 63 37.

I really hope you're right and it turns out ok but I've seen no evidence in the last 4 years to support that.

Anyway, back on topic - The BBC has really good content in several areas but making people pay for it who don't use it is wrong.

"

Which side got more votes ?

Are you another Dianne Abbott that cant count ?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford


"They also spend £136,000 a year buying the guardian new paper for all its employees, or should I say we do. Oh well they have to get their news from somewhere.

Please tell me that you are joking.. no its on their wedsite under costs 2018/2019 along with £600,000 for employees taxis . You couldn't make it up what a gray train.

Bit of a misleading story this..The guardian is the most ordered paper from the bbc.Other papers are bought but the guardian is the most popular.

Speaking of newspapers; the licence fee costs less than 43p a day - if you pay it at all. That's cheaper than all but four of the UK's newspapers - and some of them, you only get on a Sunday.

Clearly, given the range of world, UK and local content the BBC provides on television, radio and online - it is better value for money than any newspaper - and I'm sure the owners of The Sun and The Daily Mail are grateful for the BBC's business.

The BBC's output and spending are regulated and scrutinised to a far stricter level than any newspaper, too.

If you really hate the BBC because it doesn't reflect your political views and/or it's wasting money you're having to pay as a tax; then tough fucking shit!

Find something that's really worth complaining about - like why your government, despite having detailed plans for dealing with a pandemic, failed to implement them due to the financial cost of being prepared."

A mere pittance. Let's double our daily contribution to 86 pence a day and double the salary of all presenters ..

Money so well spent .. not..

Or conversely.. half our contribution and half their wages ...

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford


"Trump and the Pentagon admit to UFO's and it barely causes a ripple in the pond. Hello!Is Anybody out there???

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pentagon-ufo-video-released-declassified-navy-footage-watch-a9487276.html

It's not news. We all knew it was true anyway "

What they're not telling us is the Aliens hi-tailed it out of here with their life enhancing technology we could have benefited from when they saw all the deseases on earth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They also spend £136,000 a year buying the guardian new paper for all its employees, or should I say we do. Oh well they have to get their news from somewhere.

Please tell me that you are joking.. no its on their wedsite under costs 2018/2019 along with £600,000 for employees taxis . You couldn't make it up what a gray train.

Bit of a misleading story this..The guardian is the most ordered paper from the bbc.Other papers are bought but the guardian is the most popular.

Speaking of newspapers; the licence fee costs less than 43p a day - if you pay it at all. That's cheaper than all but four of the UK's newspapers - and some of them, you only get on a Sunday.

Clearly, given the range of world, UK and local content the BBC provides on television, radio and online - it is better value for money than any newspaper - and I'm sure the owners of The Sun and The Daily Mail are grateful for the BBC's business.

The BBC's output and spending are regulated and scrutinised to a far stricter level than any newspaper, too.

If you really hate the BBC because it doesn't reflect your political views and/or it's wasting money you're having to pay as a tax; then tough fucking shit!

Find something that's really worth complaining about - like why your government, despite having detailed plans for dealing with a pandemic, failed to implement them due to the financial cost of being prepared.

A mere pittance. Let's double our daily contribution to 86 pence a day and double the salary of all presenters ..

Money so well spent .. not..

Or conversely.. half our contribution and half their wages ... "

Oh yes, lets put that in laymans terms like you essex boys understand then....motors!

Halfing the price of the product would maybe get you a dacia because its cheap and cheerful but then then you wonder why everyone starts moaning because they wanted a VW golf gti for the same money? Pay half price and you get a worse experience. Its a silly idea you are pushing and you know it.

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By *uninlondon69Man
over a year ago

Tower Bridge South


"MAJORITY in this case was 37% of the population.

I'm not a mathematician but I'm fairly sure that 63 37.

I really hope you're right and it turns out ok but I've seen no evidence in the last 4 years to support that.

Anyway, back on topic - The BBC has really good content in several areas but making people pay for it who don't use it is wrong.

Which side got more votes ?

Are you another Dianne Abbott that cant count ?"

No, I'm a Priti Patel who can't read a number off an autocue.

Are you still peddling the lie that 52% voted for brexit? It was only 37% of the population. A MINORITY.

Still, blue passports eh?

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"MAJORITY in this case was 37% of the population.

I'm not a mathematician but I'm fairly sure that 63 37.

I really hope you're right and it turns out ok but I've seen no evidence in the last 4 years to support that.

Anyway, back on topic - The BBC has really good content in several areas but making people pay for it who don't use it is wrong.

Which side got more votes ?

Are you another Dianne Abbott that cant count ?

No, I'm a Priti Patel who can't read a number off an autocue.

Are you still peddling the lie that 52% voted for brexit? It was only 37% of the population. A MINORITY.

Still, blue passports eh? "

It's a majority of those that voted, which is what every vote is based on, if you dont vote when you can then that's tough, if you vote and lose that's tough too, it's called democracy

Name a better way and start a campaign

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You will never convince the rabid Brexiteers. All we can do now is club together and try and get through the shambles it will be. That's why they have to pretend the government has dealt with Covid well. If this is a pre cursor to how Brexit will go, god help us.

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By *ax777Man
over a year ago

Not here


"MAJORITY in this case was 37% of the population.

I'm not a mathematician but I'm fairly sure that 63 37.

I really hope you're right and it turns out ok but I've seen no evidence in the last 4 years to support that.

Anyway, back on topic - The BBC has really good content in several areas but making people pay for it who don't use it is wrong.

Which side got more votes ?

Are you another Dianne Abbott that cant count ?

No, I'm a Priti Patel who can't read a number off an autocue.

Are you still peddling the lie that 52% voted for brexit? It was only 37% of the population. A MINORITY.

Still, blue passports eh? "

Yes but that 37% was of 80% that were eligible to vote. Those that didn’t vote can’t really complain either way. BTW I voted remain but accept the democratic result of the referendum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"MAJORITY in this case was 37% of the population.

I'm not a mathematician but I'm fairly sure that 63 37.

I really hope you're right and it turns out ok but I've seen no evidence in the last 4 years to support that.

Anyway, back on topic - The BBC has really good content in several areas but making people pay for it who don't use it is wrong.

Which side got more votes ?

Are you another Dianne Abbott that cant count ?

No, I'm a Priti Patel who can't read a number off an autocue.

Are you still peddling the lie that 52% voted for brexit? It was only 37% of the population. A MINORITY.

Still, blue passports eh?

It's a majority of those that voted, which is what every vote is based on, if you dont vote when you can then that's tough, if you vote and lose that's tough too, it's called democracy

Name a better way and start a campaign "

Correct, however , is it fair to say whatever happens with Brexit (wether it be good, bad or indifferent ) will effect 100% of the population, of which only 37% voted for it .

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