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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Donald Trump is now accusing China of starting this deliberately and has mentioned of grave consequences if he finds evidence of this been true.

What do you think the worlds response should be if this is true?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ignore him and hope he gets bored and goes away?

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell


"Donald Trump is now accusing China of starting this deliberately and has mentioned of grave consequences if he finds evidence of this been true.

What do you think the worlds response should be if this is true?"

where is the article showing trump saying this?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I just heard it on the 2 o clock news on the radio

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Just read a lawyer in America plans to sue China for trillions,so sad.

It has started a lot of discussion on this and I feel that it is Trump's way of distracting his own failures he is deranged.

What we must do is beat this virus first.That is the important thing,blame is a side issue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Donald Trump is now accusing China of starting this deliberately and has mentioned of grave consequences if he finds evidence of this been true.

What do you think the worlds response should be if this is true?"

There's plenty of people on this forum who believe it. With no evidence what-so-ever.

Some guy even calling for genocide via nuclear war against China over on another thread.

We can expect more and more of this as the UK and US governments both attempt to distract form their own failings. And as more xenophobic, easily led people jump on the bandwagon.

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By *hades Of GreyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

Trump has nothing to talk about, the 'Spanish' Flu, that killed more than 50 million, yes 50 million people back in 1918 actually originated in the USA.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


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where is the article showing trump saying this?"

Most news agencies are reporting it.

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

The man is a dangerous buffoon who is trying to blame everyone else for his failings. I suspect we will never know the true origins behind this awful virus. One thing for sure is that governments around the world now have total control of their citizens.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

At yesterdays WH briefing

Q:This past week, an extraordinary slew of events from adversaries North Korea, Russia, China, and Iran. Toying with the U.S. Air Force. What is your message to countries trying to take advantage?

A:I do not see it, we have a good relationship with Russia and we worked on the oil deal together. I was with-by telephone, and the king of Saudi Arabia, and the president of Russia, we worked out a deal on oil that was an important deal to them and us and Saudi Arabia. I worked with Putin and with the king on that. -- Putin. President Putin was a total gentleman. it was important to get that John -- import to get that done. -- it was important to get that done. The king was great. We brought in Mexico. North Korea, I see the are testing short range missiles. They have been doing it a long time. I received a nice note from him recently. It was a nice note. I think we are doing fine. look, if I was not elected you would be at war with North Korea. For people who do not understand the world and how life works. Maybe the war would be over. Hopefully with a victory. If you remember when I first came and we do not have ammunition. Not a good way to fight a war. President Obama left us no ammunition. And he left us virtually no medical. and ventilators. The cupboard was dry, right? I think right now you would be at war, essentially, in some form. It would be over, it would be raging, with North Korea. We are doing just fine with North Korea. We will see how it all ends up. They say Trump has given up. Really, what has he given up? I don't know. oh, he met. Oh, I messed. no, I have a good relationship with Kim Jong-Un. It is not about thing to have a good relationship. Obama wanted a relationship. We met at the line and I stepped over the line, the first time a thing like that has ever-it is all good. It is good. but when they say, the stupid people, I call them stupid people, or the haters, they say Trump has given up so much. Really? China has been very good on the border. Right now the border is stone cold close between china and North Korea. A relationship with China was good until they did this. Once we found out about this. look, we just made a trade deal. With China to buy $250 billion a year from the farmers -- China is going to have to buy $450 billion from the farmers. Then you heard about this. the question was asked, would you be angry at China? the answer might be a resounding yes, but it depends. it was a mistake that got out of control? or was it done deliberately, ok? In either event, they should have let us go in. We ask to go in early -- we asked to go in very early. and they would not let us in. I think they were embarrassed. I think we are doing very well. you said Russia. you said China. you said North Korea. Iran. When I came in, Iran was a terror. we had 82 points of fighting, 18 points of confliction. The first week, I said tell me about Iran. Sir, we have 18 points of confliction, meaning Yemen, Syria, Iraq. they're a much different nation now. I stopped that deal, horrible, and they want to talk. Kerry made the deal and does not want them to make a deal -- John Kerry made the deal and does not want them to make a deal. Stupid deal. He made the deal originally. Gave them a $1.8 billion in cash. You could fill up this room 10 times with hundred dollar bills, it is not that small a room. I think it was a major violation and we would have had a deal if it was not for John Kerry but he does not want to be number one embarrassed and never to he said which laughter the election. -- wait until after the election. Maybe Sleepy Joe Biden is going to win. And if Sleepy Joe Biden wins, China will own the United States. China has paid us, you know, from the wall street journal, hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs and we get a lot of that money, small percentage but a lot of the money to the farmers and it kept the farmers going great, all right? we are getting tens of billions of dollars in tariffs. for those of you who say we are paying, China devalued their currency in order to pay. they also added money into their system. I think you have numerous countries waiting to see who went. -- who will win. Go back, two months, and China was supposed to catch us. For years I have heard that China will catch us. But they said China would catch us in 2019. And before the problem, China was having the worst year they had and 67 years and now they are getting really hurt and so is everybody getting hurt. I do not want them to get hurt but they're all getting hurt, everybody is getting hurt, it is admirable thing that has happened, but we had the greatest economy -- it is a horrible thing that has happened. But we had the greatest economy by far and China is not even close and we will keep it that way. But Iran is a much different country than it was. When I first came in around was going to take over the entire middle east and right now they just want to survive. they're having protests every week. I have offered to help them if they want. If they need ventilators, which they do, I would send them ventilators. We have thousands of excess ventilators coming in and here we have a stockpile of ventilators and we are starting to send them so hospitals can fill up their stockpile, which they should have. New York chose not to do it and I understand that. Iran was a terror when I came into office, right now they do not want to mess around with us. two things. North Korea, the same sanctions we have always had except mark, have not given anything, I think you'll hopefully -- except more, we have not given anything. I hope you'll take that back to the Wall Street Journal because they do not understand it. And with Iran, that is a different country right now. and they want to make a deal. the only reason they want, the guy that gave them the sweetheart did not want to, met with them many times and he should have never met with them. In my opinion he is telling them do not wait, maybe Trump will lose and you can negotiate. and you will take over between you and Russia. nobody has been tougher on Putin than me. he knows that better than anybody. Look at the sanctions. Look at what I did with our pipeline going into Europe. nobody even knew about it. At the same time, I have a very good relationship with Putin. I was able to make a deal with Russia and Saudi Arabia and OPEC plus. They call it OPEC plus. that is going to save us Texas, North Dakota, Oklahoma, other states, energy states. that will save jobs. and your paper wrote an editorial, that was a nice thing , I was shocked to see it. Thank you very much, we will see you tomorrow.

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By *oistknickersCouple
over a year ago

London

Donald Trump is doing everything he can to deflect the blame from himself.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I suppose it gives hope to morons everywhere..you too can rise to the top.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It worries me that this is an election year in the US. Trump wouldn’t want to appear weak at this time and he’s mad enough to do something stupid. Or stupid enough to do something mad.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At yesterdays WH briefing

Q:This past week, an extraordinary slew of events from adversaries North Korea, Russia, China, and Iran. Toying with the U.S. Air Force. What is your message to countries trying to take advantage?

A:I do not see it, we have a good relationship with Russia and we worked on the oil deal together. I was with-by telephone, and the king of Saudi Arabia, and the president of Russia, we worked out a deal on oil that was an important deal to them and us and Saudi Arabia. I worked with Putin and with the king on that. -- Putin. President Putin was a total gentleman. it was important to get that John -- import to get that done. -- it was important to get that done. The king was great. We brought in Mexico. North Korea, I see the are testing short range missiles. They have been doing it a long time. I received a nice note from him recently. It was a nice note. I think we are doing fine. look, if I was not elected you would be at war with North Korea. For people who do not understand the world and how life works. Maybe the war would be over. Hopefully with a victory. If you remember when I first came and we do not have ammunition. Not a good way to fight a war. President Obama left us no ammunition. And he left us virtually no medical. and ventilators. The cupboard was dry, right? I think right now you would be at war, essentially, in some form. It would be over, it would be raging, with North Korea. We are doing just fine with North Korea. We will see how it all ends up. They say Trump has given up. Really, what has he given up? I don't know. oh, he met. Oh, I messed. no, I have a good relationship with Kim Jong-Un. It is not about thing to have a good relationship. Obama wanted a relationship. We met at the line and I stepped over the line, the first time a thing like that has ever-it is all good. It is good. but when they say, the stupid people, I call them stupid people, or the haters, they say Trump has given up so much. Really? China has been very good on the border. Right now the border is stone cold close between china and North Korea. A relationship with China was good until they did this. Once we found out about this. look, we just made a trade deal. With China to buy $250 billion a year from the farmers -- China is going to have to buy $450 billion from the farmers. Then you heard about this. the question was asked, would you be angry at China? the answer might be a resounding yes, but it depends. it was a mistake that got out of control? or was it done deliberately, ok? In either event, they should have let us go in. We ask to go in early -- we asked to go in very early. and they would not let us in. I think they were embarrassed. I think we are doing very well. you said Russia. you said China. you said North Korea. Iran. When I came in, Iran was a terror. we had 82 points of fighting, 18 points of confliction. The first week, I said tell me about Iran. Sir, we have 18 points of confliction, meaning Yemen, Syria, Iraq. they're a much different nation now. I stopped that deal, horrible, and they want to talk. Kerry made the deal and does not want them to make a deal -- John Kerry made the deal and does not want them to make a deal. Stupid deal. He made the deal originally. Gave them a $1.8 billion in cash. You could fill up this room 10 times with hundred dollar bills, it is not that small a room. I think it was a major violation and we would have had a deal if it was not for John Kerry but he does not want to be number one embarrassed and never to he said which laughter the election. -- wait until after the election. Maybe Sleepy Joe Biden is going to win. And if Sleepy Joe Biden wins, China will own the United States. China has paid us, you know, from the wall street journal, hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs and we get a lot of that money, small percentage but a lot of the money to the farmers and it kept the farmers going great, all right? we are getting tens of billions of dollars in tariffs. for those of you who say we are paying, China devalued their currency in order to pay. they also added money into their system. I think you have numerous countries waiting to see who went. -- who will win. Go back, two months, and China was supposed to catch us. For years I have heard that China will catch us. But they said China would catch us in 2019. And before the problem, China was having the worst year they had and 67 years and now they are getting really hurt and so is everybody getting hurt. I do not want them to get hurt but they're all getting hurt, everybody is getting hurt, it is admirable thing that has happened, but we had the greatest economy -- it is a horrible thing that has happened. But we had the greatest economy by far and China is not even close and we will keep it that way. But Iran is a much different country than it was. When I first came in around was going to take over the entire middle east and right now they just want to survive. they're having protests every week. I have offered to help them if they want. If they need ventilators, which they do, I would send them ventilators. We have thousands of excess ventilators coming in and here we have a stockpile of ventilators and we are starting to send them so hospitals can fill up their stockpile, which they should have. New York chose not to do it and I understand that. Iran was a terror when I came into office, right now they do not want to mess around with us. two things. North Korea, the same sanctions we have always had except mark, have not given anything, I think you'll hopefully -- except more, we have not given anything. I hope you'll take that back to the Wall Street Journal because they do not understand it. And with Iran, that is a different country right now. and they want to make a deal. the only reason they want, the guy that gave them the sweetheart did not want to, met with them many times and he should have never met with them. In my opinion he is telling them do not wait, maybe Trump will lose and you can negotiate. and you will take over between you and Russia. nobody has been tougher on Putin than me. he knows that better than anybody. Look at the sanctions. Look at what I did with our pipeline going into Europe. nobody even knew about it. At the same time, I have a very good relationship with Putin. I was able to make a deal with Russia and Saudi Arabia and OPEC plus. They call it OPEC plus. that is going to save us Texas, North Dakota, Oklahoma, other states, energy states. that will save jobs. and your paper wrote an editorial, that was a nice thing , I was shocked to see it. Thank you very much, we will see you tomorrow.

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Please tell me it was a copy and paste job

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

Trump is scared

He has an election coming which was supposed to be built on the success of employment and a country in a good business state, along with his wall.

None has happened in his three years, so stirring up the easily persuaded. It'll only cause hatred across the world. Very, very sad

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

China have questions that need answering.

Why they refused access to International scientists as well as the WHO and why security and hygiene at the virology lab in Wuhan was so lax.

I believe it will prove it was an accident over time.

Now is not the time though...

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By *emptd2Man
over a year ago

Burgess Hill & Birmingham

Election season tactics.

High unemployment.

Bad economy.

Poor handling of pandemic.

Let's divert the attention by liberating democratic states & blaming everyone but himself.

Sounds about right.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

he is in deflection mode all over the place... which is why in last night presser it wasn't about what he should be doing (sorting out testing!) but about railing up his base... the protests against social distancing (but only at democratic governors!) the bit about mosques being open and church not! (funny fact.. he lied.. actually every mosque in america is closed!) then having a go at the squad....

he wants the credit for opening up america when it was the state govenors who ask him to be more forceful about telling to stay home and he wouldn't!

everything is always "someone elses" fault...

he is in full blown conspiracy mode!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"China have questions that need answering.

Why they refused access to International scientists as well as the WHO and why security and hygiene at the virology lab in Wuhan was so lax.

I believe it will prove it was an accident over time.

Now is not the time though..."

This is really funny. In a thread where people are discussing Trump's distraction tactics is blaming China for everything. You post a comment about blaming China .

I'm not sure if you meant it this way, but it's a good example of how effective distraction can be as a political tool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"he is in deflection mode all over the place... which is why in last night presser it wasn't about what he should be doing (sorting out testing!) but about railing up his base... the protests against social distancing (but only at democratic governors!) the bit about mosques being open and church not! (funny fact.. he lied.. actually every mosque in america is closed!) then having a go at the squad....

he wants the credit for opening up america when it was the state govenors who ask him to be more forceful about telling to stay home and he wouldn't!

everything is always "someone elses" fault...

he is in full blown conspiracy mode!"

Will any of this make any difference to the electorate? It does appear that no matter how insane his press conferences and Twitter outbursts are, people support him anyway.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"At yesterdays WH briefing

Q:This past week, an extraordinary slew of events from adversaries North Korea, Russia, China, and Iran. Toying with the U.S. Air Force. What is your message to countries trying to take advantage?

A:I do not see it, we have a good relationship with Russia and we worked on the oil deal together. I was with-by telephone, and the king of Saudi Arabia, and the president of Russia, we worked out a deal on oil that was an important deal to them and us and Saudi Arabia. I worked with Putin and with the king on that. -- Putin. President Putin was a total gentleman. it was important to get that John -- import to get that done. -- it was important to get that done. The king was great. We brought in Mexico. North Korea, I see the are testing short range missiles. They have been doing it a long time. I received a nice note from him recently. It was a nice note. I think we are doing fine. look, if I was not elected you would be at war with North Korea. For people who do not understand the world and how life works. Maybe the war would be over. Hopefully with a victory. If you remember when I first came and we do not have ammunition. Not a good way to fight a war. President Obama left us no ammunition. And he left us virtually no medical. and ventilators. The cupboard was dry, right? I think right now you would be at war, essentially, in some form. It would be over, it would be raging, with North Korea. We are doing just fine with North Korea. We will see how it all ends up. They say Trump has given up. Really, what has he given up? I don't know. oh, he met. Oh, I messed. no, I have a good relationship with Kim Jong-Un. It is not about thing to have a good relationship. Obama wanted a relationship. We met at the line and I stepped over the line, the first time a thing like that has ever-it is all good. It is good. but when they say, the stupid people, I call them stupid people, or the haters, they say Trump has given up so much. Really? China has been very good on the border. Right now the border is stone cold close between china and North Korea. A relationship with China was good until they did this. Once we found out about this. look, we just made a trade deal. With China to buy $250 billion a year from the farmers -- China is going to have to buy $450 billion from the farmers. Then you heard about this. the question was asked, would you be angry at China? the answer might be a resounding yes, but it depends. it was a mistake that got out of control? or was it done deliberately, ok? In either event, they should have let us go in. We ask to go in early -- we asked to go in very early. and they would not let us in. I think they were embarrassed. I think we are doing very well. you said Russia. you said China. you said North Korea. Iran. When I came in, Iran was a terror. we had 82 points of fighting, 18 points of confliction. The first week, I said tell me about Iran. Sir, we have 18 points of confliction, meaning Yemen, Syria, Iraq. they're a much different nation now. I stopped that deal, horrible, and they want to talk. Kerry made the deal and does not want them to make a deal -- John Kerry made the deal and does not want them to make a deal. Stupid deal. He made the deal originally. Gave them a $1.8 billion in cash. You could fill up this room 10 times with hundred dollar bills, it is not that small a room. I think it was a major violation and we would have had a deal if it was not for John Kerry but he does not want to be number one embarrassed and never to he said which laughter the election. -- wait until after the election. Maybe Sleepy Joe Biden is going to win. And if Sleepy Joe Biden wins, China will own the United States. China has paid us, you know, from the wall street journal, hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs and we get a lot of that money, small percentage but a lot of the money to the farmers and it kept the farmers going great, all right? we are getting tens of billions of dollars in tariffs. for those of you who say we are paying, China devalued their currency in order to pay. they also added money into their system. I think you have numerous countries waiting to see who went. -- who will win. Go back, two months, and China was supposed to catch us. For years I have heard that China will catch us. But they said China would catch us in 2019. And before the problem, China was having the worst year they had and 67 years and now they are getting really hurt and so is everybody getting hurt. I do not want them to get hurt but they're all getting hurt, everybody is getting hurt, it is admirable thing that has happened, but we had the greatest economy -- it is a horrible thing that has happened. But we had the greatest economy by far and China is not even close and we will keep it that way. But Iran is a much different country than it was. When I first came in around was going to take over the entire middle east and right now they just want to survive. they're having protests every week. I have offered to help them if they want. If they need ventilators, which they do, I would send them ventilators. We have thousands of excess ventilators coming in and here we have a stockpile of ventilators and we are starting to send them so hospitals can fill up their stockpile, which they should have. New York chose not to do it and I understand that. Iran was a terror when I came into office, right now they do not want to mess around with us. two things. North Korea, the same sanctions we have always had except mark, have not given anything, I think you'll hopefully -- except more, we have not given anything. I hope you'll take that back to the Wall Street Journal because they do not understand it. And with Iran, that is a different country right now. and they want to make a deal. the only reason they want, the guy that gave them the sweetheart did not want to, met with them many times and he should have never met with them. In my opinion he is telling them do not wait, maybe Trump will lose and you can negotiate. and you will take over between you and Russia. nobody has been tougher on Putin than me. he knows that better than anybody. Look at the sanctions. Look at what I did with our pipeline going into Europe. nobody even knew about it. At the same time, I have a very good relationship with Putin. I was able to make a deal with Russia and Saudi Arabia and OPEC plus. They call it OPEC plus. that is going to save us Texas, North Dakota, Oklahoma, other states, energy states. that will save jobs. and your paper wrote an editorial, that was a nice thing , I was shocked to see it. Thank you very much, we will see you tomorrow.

Please tell me it was a copy and paste job "

It's a verbatim answer if thats what you're asking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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where is the article showing trump saying this?

Most news agencies are reporting it."

His speech/press briefing in which he said this has been televised.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Will any of this make any difference to the electorate? It does appear that no matter how insane his press conferences and Twitter outbursts are, people support him anyway. "

a few interesting poll out this morning...

asked whether who they trusted more on this crisis, Trump or their Govenor

34% said Trump

66% said "their Govenor"

60-40 said they want the current guidence to stay in plce.....

nationally in the election..... Biden leads by 7...

when the race is reduced to 11 swing states — Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — Biden holds a combined 6-point lead over Trump, 49 percent to 43 percent.

the only ones of those i would put in the Trump column is florida and wisconsin/arizona at a push.... everything else there screams blue..

the other thing is that there are senate races in a few of those states as well.... republican susan collins of maine is basically "dead in the water".... in colodaro. republican cory gardner is in big trouble against the former very popular goveron of the state, and the senator in arizona , martha mcsally, who is a trump lacky, is down 10 to mark kelly, former astronaut, and husband of gabby gifford (who use to be senator and was assinated but luckily survived)

then you are going to have competative races in north carolina and even in montana.....

this is why trump is freaking out... having a dem control congress slowed him down... but the dems controlling both congress and senate stops him dead!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Will any of this make any difference to the electorate? It does appear that no matter how insane his press conferences and Twitter outbursts are, people support him anyway.

a few interesting poll out this morning...

asked whether who they trusted more on this crisis, Trump or their Govenor

34% said Trump

66% said "their Govenor"

60-40 said they want the current guidence to stay in plce.....

nationally in the election..... Biden leads by 7...

when the race is reduced to 11 swing states — Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — Biden holds a combined 6-point lead over Trump, 49 percent to 43 percent.

the only ones of those i would put in the Trump column is florida and wisconsin/arizona at a push.... everything else there screams blue..

the other thing is that there are senate races in a few of those states as well.... republican susan collins of maine is basically "dead in the water".... in colodaro. republican cory gardner is in big trouble against the former very popular goveron of the state, and the senator in arizona , martha mcsally, who is a trump lacky, is down 10 to mark kelly, former astronaut, and husband of gabby gifford (who use to be senator and was assinated but luckily survived)

then you are going to have competative races in north carolina and even in montana.....

this is why trump is freaking out... having a dem control congress slowed him down... but the dems controlling both congress and senate stops him dead! "

Interesting information and points of view. Thank you.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Trumps gonna pardon the The Tiger King Joe Exotic and announce a federal investigation into Carol Baskin.

Guaranteed banker for re-election.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Interesting information and points of view. Thank you."

this is why you have started hearing trump start talking about the appointment of federal judges, because its the one of the few powers the senate has that bypasses congress...

normally federal appointments and cabinet appointments tend to be "bi-partisan" (i.e you need more that 60%) but some of the people have been so weird that even republican senators have said "nope!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Donald Trump is now accusing China of starting this deliberately and has mentioned of grave consequences if he finds evidence of this been true.

What do you think the worlds response should be if this is true?"

Ignore him. It all means nothing until we know everything, which will probably never happen.

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