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"Care workers especially but for everyone: what do we think of Matt Hancock's suggestion to give us all a badge? " It's a gesture, might be well meaning but the truer measure will be what's desperately needed now in care homes.. The crisis in social care has for years looked to paid lip service to by this government so perhaps a commission to redress some aspects would be good but for now its a badge. | |||
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"Care workers especially but for everyone: what do we think of Matt Hancock's suggestion to give us all a badge? " He needs to give his head a wobble. And then pin a badge saying 'supercunt' to his forehead and leave it there til lockdown is over. Scrap that. Just leave it there forever.... 
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"Care workers especially but for everyone: what do we think of Matt Hancock's suggestion to give us all a badge? He needs to give his head a wobble. And then pin a badge saying 'supercunt' to his forehead and leave it there til lockdown is over. Scrap that. Just leave it there forever....
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"Care workers especially but for everyone: what do we think of Matt Hancock's suggestion to give us all a badge? He needs to give his head a wobble. And then pin a badge saying 'supercunt' to his forehead and leave it there til lockdown is over. Scrap that. Just leave it there forever....
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"BADGES??? We don't need no stinking BADGES!!......blazing saddles great movie"An appropriate time for a Mel Brooks moment for sure | |||
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"Whoever advised him to say it shouldn’t have. They just need to right the wrong they have done to care homes. You can’t make a big thing of additional testing of patients leaving hospital and going back to care homeS when it is something that clearly should have been a priority in the beginning. They were always a high risk. If one person in your own home catches the virus chances are you all will and that’s the same for care homes, lots of vulnerable people, confined spaces, not tested and they have to have people coming and going because if the nature of what is it. Shameful. " Arent most care homes private now? | |||
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"Whoever advised him to say it shouldn’t have. They just need to right the wrong they have done to care homes. You can’t make a big thing of additional testing of patients leaving hospital and going back to care homeS when it is something that clearly should have been a priority in the beginning. They were always a high risk. If one person in your own home catches the virus chances are you all will and that’s the same for care homes, lots of vulnerable people, confined spaces, not tested and they have to have people coming and going because if the nature of what is it. Shameful. Arent most care homes private now?" Because it's now headline news There was a panic to get more PPE at work yesterday. Started looking on line and only the cheapest of the cheap would do. | |||
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"Whoever advised him to say it shouldn’t have. They just need to right the wrong they have done to care homes. You can’t make a big thing of additional testing of patients leaving hospital and going back to care homeS when it is something that clearly should have been a priority in the beginning. They were always a high risk. If one person in your own home catches the virus chances are you all will and that’s the same for care homes, lots of vulnerable people, confined spaces, not tested and they have to have people coming and going because if the nature of what is it. Shameful. Arent most care homes private now? Because it's now headline news There was a panic to get more PPE at work yesterday. Started looking on line and only the cheapest of the cheap would do. " This has been going on for weeks, and they only thought to start looking/panic yesterday? | |||
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"It made me think of an ide brainstormed...'The Thick of It' style.. Thanks to all the carers by the way. Just a shame it took this for us all to realise how crucial you all are." Carers looking after the elderly have been undervalued for far too long. | |||
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"BADGES??? We don't need no stinking BADGES!!......blazing saddles great movie" bedt film ever | |||
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"It made me think of an ide brainstormed...'The Thick of It' style.. Thanks to all the carers by the way. Just a shame it took this for us all to realise how crucial you all are. Carers looking after the elderly have been undervalued for far too long. " Carers in general are undervalued. The badge thing shows that they still are by government  | |||
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"Whoever advised him to say it shouldn’t have. They just need to right the wrong they have done to care homes. You can’t make a big thing of additional testing of patients leaving hospital and going back to care homeS when it is something that clearly should have been a priority in the beginning. They were always a high risk. If one person in your own home catches the virus chances are you all will and that’s the same for care homes, lots of vulnerable people, confined spaces, not tested and they have to have people coming and going because if the nature of what is it. Shameful. Arent most care homes private now? Because it's now headline news There was a panic to get more PPE at work yesterday. Started looking on line and only the cheapest of the cheap would do. This has been going on for weeks, and they only thought to start looking/panic yesterday?" They've been looking like tens of thousands of others in that sector for weeks, maybe the panic element now if there is one is because its rife in many care homes..? Radio 4 reporting this morning that letters are being sent to all individuals in care homes which I think as I missed part of the piece so apologies to do with the residents signing or those with poa dnr? | |||
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"Whoever advised him to say it shouldn’t have. They just need to right the wrong they have done to care homes. You can’t make a big thing of additional testing of patients leaving hospital and going back to care homeS when it is something that clearly should have been a priority in the beginning. They were always a high risk. If one person in your own home catches the virus chances are you all will and that’s the same for care homes, lots of vulnerable people, confined spaces, not tested and they have to have people coming and going because if the nature of what is it. Shameful. Arent most care homes private now? Because it's now headline news There was a panic to get more PPE at work yesterday. Started looking on line and only the cheapest of the cheap would do. This has been going on for weeks, and they only thought to start looking/panic yesterday? They've been looking like tens of thousands of others in that sector for weeks, maybe the panic element now if there is one is because its rife in many care homes..? Radio 4 reporting this morning that letters are being sent to all individuals in care homes which I think as I missed part of the piece so apologies to do with the residents signing or those with poa dnr? " To clarify, there was to be blanket dnr signing but they backtracked on it yesterday.. | |||
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"Whoever advised him to say it shouldn’t have. They just need to right the wrong they have done to care homes. You can’t make a big thing of additional testing of patients leaving hospital and going back to care homeS when it is something that clearly should have been a priority in the beginning. They were always a high risk. If one person in your own home catches the virus chances are you all will and that’s the same for care homes, lots of vulnerable people, confined spaces, not tested and they have to have people coming and going because if the nature of what is it. Shameful. Arent most care homes private now? Because it's now headline news There was a panic to get more PPE at work yesterday. Started looking on line and only the cheapest of the cheap would do. This has been going on for weeks, and they only thought to start looking/panic yesterday? They've been looking like tens of thousands of others in that sector for weeks, maybe the panic element now if there is one is because its rife in many care homes..? Radio 4 reporting this morning that letters are being sent to all individuals in care homes which I think as I missed part of the piece so apologies to do with the residents signing or those with poa dnr? " I heard it in the car. Like you lost the thread about what they were about. They were to staff. Pretty sure it wasn't about DNRs. | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge" A major shift in the way we recognise our workforce, whatever their career is going to have to happen. Paying minimum wage for healthcare staff will have to stop. As stated, how can picking asparagus be worth more than paying a porter to help keep the hospital running. Never mind a badge, Sunak should attach a cheque for £1000 for each and every one. That would show gratitude. Get ready to applaud again tonight. Let them know we care | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge A major shift in the way we recognise our workforce, whatever their career is going to have to happen. Paying minimum wage for healthcare staff will have to stop. As stated, how can picking asparagus be worth more than paying a porter to help keep the hospital running. Never mind a badge, Sunak should attach a cheque for £1000 for each and every one. That would show gratitude. Get ready to applaud again tonight. Let them know we care" That would require a seismic change. | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. More than SSP if one has to self isolate wouldn't go a miss. Then maybe I'll wear a badge" | |||
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"Care workers especially but for everyone: what do we think of Matt Hancock's suggestion to give us all a badge? " The green badge he was wearing was launched over a year ago.... | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge" I can't believe carers are considered unskilled workers when they have other lives in our hands. When a bar man or shelf stacker gets paid better than carers who most are on miminum wage. Its an insult having a badge. Better pay is sign of gratitude which reflects the ability of a carer. | |||
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Take a long hard look at yourselves and then ask yourselves what you would do?
You will then realise why you are sat behind a keyboard
Much like me, but I am not the one dishing out criticism and hatred! | |||
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"So much vitriol and hatred in people sat behind their keyboards
Take a long hard look at yourselves and then ask yourselves what you would do?
You will then realise why you are sat behind a keyboard
Much like me, but I am not the one dishing out criticism and hatred! "I know, ingrates the lot of them, asking for life saving PPE and a living wage. They really should show some appreciation. | |||
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"So much vitriol and hatred in people sat behind their keyboards
Take a long hard look at yourselves and then ask yourselves what you would do?
You will then realise why you are sat behind a keyboard
Much like me, but I am not the one dishing out criticism and hatred!
I know, ingrates the lot of them, asking for life saving PPE and a living wage. They really should show some appreciation." | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge" | |||
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"Lots of armchair warriors with little to do but moan (as if they have a clue). Get the facts first Most care homes are privately run for profit and nothing to do with government. It is not the governments job to kit them out too, but they will. " So the gmnt has no social care responsibility whatsoever? | |||
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"Lots of armchair warriors with little to do but moan (as if they have a clue). Get the facts first Most care homes are privately run for profit and nothing to do with government. It is not the governments job to kit them out too, but they will. " You are absolutely correct! The Government also funds the NHS, so were managers negligent in not preparing? None of this helps sort the problem though and I am also in danger of becoming a key board warrior | |||
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" Most care homes are privately run for profit and nothing to do with government. It is not the governments job to kit them out too, but they will. So the gmnt has no social care responsibility whatsoever? " No they shouldn't have, not when it is a privately run concern! | |||
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" Most care homes are privately run for profit and nothing to do with government. It is not the governments job to kit them out too, but they will. So the gmnt has no social care responsibility whatsoever? No they shouldn't have, not when it is a privately run concern!" So the gmnt has no responsibility for social care whatsoever? I'm a bit confused tbh..are all care homes privately run? | |||
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"BADGES??? We don't need no stinking BADGES!!......blazing saddles great movie
An appropriate time for a Mel Brooks moment for sure "You realise that Blazing Saddles is referring to *classic* Spaghetti Western 'The Treasure of the Sierra Madre' - the 'badges' line is THE line of the whole movie and is considered to be a defining moment in the history of cinema etc etc... | |||
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"Lots of armchair warriors with little to do but moan (as if they have a clue). Get the facts first Most care homes are privately run for profit and nothing to do with government. It is not the governments job to kit them out too, but they will. You are absolutely correct! The Government also funds the NHS, so were managers negligent in not preparing? None of this helps sort the problem though and I am also in danger of becoming a key board warrior "Had that debate a million times. | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge" For curiosity, who pays your wages? | |||
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" Most care homes are privately run for profit and nothing to do with government. It is not the governments job to kit them out too, but they will. " This was my assumption, if someone is complaining about wages or staffing levels etc then surely that should be aimed at the employer rather than the government | |||
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" I'm a bit confused tbh..are all care homes privately run?" I believe that the answer to your question is "Yes, all care homes are privately run". When my Mum went in to care, she had to fund herself because she was reasonably well off. Others less well off were placed in to the same home by the government and paid that Care Home to have them. This was the same scenario for all the care homes we visited and that was many. | |||
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" Most care homes are privately run for profit and nothing to do with government. It is not the governments job to kit them out too, but they will. This was my assumption, if someone is complaining about wages or staffing levels etc then surely that should be aimed at the employer rather than the government" Thats the bit I cant get my head around. But I'm assuming the gmnt must have some social care provision..say you cant afford to go in a home? | |||
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"Hang on, weren't care home workers having a little moan about not getting the same privs as NHS staff when getting their ready meals and toilet paper? " I am sure that they were, but their moans should have been directed at their own private management and not the Government. | |||
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"Hang on, weren't care home workers having a little moan about not getting the same privs as NHS staff when getting their ready meals and toilet paper? " I'm not sure how productive it is having the NHS and carers at each others throats. They are both in a shitty situation | |||
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" Most care homes are privately run for profit and nothing to do with government. It is not the governments job to kit them out too, but they will. This was my assumption, if someone is complaining about wages or staffing levels etc then surely that should be aimed at the employer rather than the government Thats the bit I cant get my head around. But I'm assuming the gmnt must have some social care provision..say you cant afford to go in a home?" I think the council pays for it for you or helps out from what I have just read. | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge For curiosity, who pays your wages?" Local council pays mine | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge For curiosity, who pays your wages? Local council pays mine " So not private then? I just read a piece which said they are gonna invest a billion in care homes and social care. | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge For curiosity, who pays your wages? Local council pays mine So not private then? I just read a piece which said they are gonna invest a billion in care homes and social care." I've worked for private care companies. Last one charged £25 an hour and paid minimum wage. I wouldn't work for them again | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge For curiosity, who pays your wages? Local council pays mine So not private then? I just read a piece which said they are gonna invest a billion in care homes and social care. I've worked for private care companies. Last one charged £25 an hour and paid minimum wage. I wouldn't work for them again " But you dont now..you work for the council? Which means the responsibility lies with the gmnt. | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge For curiosity, who pays your wages? Local council pays mine So not private then? I just read a piece which said they are gonna invest a billion in care homes and social care. I've worked for private care companies. Last one charged £25 an hour and paid minimum wage. I wouldn't work for them again " Do you mean you worked for an agency that charged more than they were paying you? As you have worked for private and council, is there a difference in care between them? | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge For curiosity, who pays your wages? Local council pays mine So not private then? I just read a piece which said they are gonna invest a billion in care homes and social care. I've worked for private care companies. Last one charged £25 an hour and paid minimum wage. I wouldn't work for them again But you dont now..you work for the council? Which means the responsibility lies with the gmnt." Technically I don't work for the council. I'm funded by them. I work for a care charity. But my wage is controlled by the council. And as all councils have money troubles, I can't see there ever being a change in wages. To put it in context with regards this crisis and how valued the care sector is..... They approached the team I work on and asked if, with training, we would work with covid patients so they can be released from hospital. They offered extra pay knowing the danger we are putting ourselves in. Brilliant idea we all said. Let's do our bit to help the NHS we all said. OK, 5p extra an hour the council said. So 60p a day, to put ourselves in danger. To put our families in danger. Erm, no. 12 hours in the same room as a covid patient, working 1 to 1 with no breaks for 60p a day is an insult | |||
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"But you dont now..you work for the council? Which means the responsibility lies with the gmnt." What bit of this are you not getting exactly? The Care Homes are privately run! Some people who are not so well off have their care paid for TO A PRIVATE COMPANY by the council. The Private Care Home is a business, it runs for profit. It is not the governments responsibility to fund a private company. | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge For curiosity, who pays your wages? Local council pays mine So not private then? I just read a piece which said they are gonna invest a billion in care homes and social care. I've worked for private care companies. Last one charged £25 an hour and paid minimum wage. I wouldn't work for them again But you dont now..you work for the council? Which means the responsibility lies with the gmnt. Technically I don't work for the council. I'm funded by them. I work for a care charity. But my wage is controlled by the council. And as all councils have money troubles, I can't see there ever being a change in wages. To put it in context with regards this crisis and how valued the care sector is..... They approached the team I work on and asked if, with training, we would work with covid patients so they can be released from hospital. They offered extra pay knowing the danger we are putting ourselves in. Brilliant idea we all said. Let's do our bit to help the NHS we all said. OK, 5p extra an hour the council said. So 60p a day, to put ourselves in danger. To put our families in danger. Erm, no. 12 hours in the same room as a covid patient, working 1 to 1 with no breaks for 60p a day is an insult" That's shocking | |||
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"They can stick their badge where the sun don't shine. Preferably with the pin open so it hurts more. I want recognition for keeping the elderly calm when they look at me in fear, knowing I could be the one to take the virus to them. I want it recognised that when other carers go sick with this shit, the rest of us pick up their calls. I'd really love a better wage. It's crap that I saw a job advertised for ppl to pick veggie fields for £15 an hour, yet I get a tiny bit over minimum wage. Most carers have to work 12 days in a row, often 14 hours a day to make ends meet. Then maybe I'll wear a badge For curiosity, who pays your wages? Local council pays mine So not private then? I just read a piece which said they are gonna invest a billion in care homes and social care. I've worked for private care companies. Last one charged £25 an hour and paid minimum wage. I wouldn't work for them again Do you mean you worked for an agency that charged more than they were paying you? As you have worked for private and council, is there a difference in care between them?" I have never worked for an agency. I worked for a private care company. Agency work is usually Bank for for care homes. Private care is for people recieving care in their own home. Some is social service funded, some is privately paid by the client. There is no difference in the care offered. No difference in the training we receive (and there's a lot of training). | |||
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"But you dont now..you work for the council? Which means the responsibility lies with the gmnt. What bit of this are you not getting exactly? The Care Homes are privately run! Some people who are not so well off have their care paid for TO A PRIVATE COMPANY by the council. The Private Care Home is a business, it runs for profit. It is not the governments responsibility to fund a private company. " I get they are privately run. I don't get why the gmnt are then pumping a billion pound into the care home sector. | |||
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" I have never worked for an agency. I worked for a private care company. Agency work is usually Bank for for care homes. Private care is for people recieving care in their own home. Some is social service funded, some is privately paid by the client. There is no difference in the care offered. No difference in the training we receive (and there's a lot of training). " Ah you work in peoples homes, I was more asking the difference between a care home run by the Council apposed to a privately run care home | |||
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" I have never worked for an agency. I worked for a private care company. Agency work is usually Bank for for care homes. Private care is for people recieving care in their own home. Some is social service funded, some is privately paid by the client. There is no difference in the care offered. No difference in the training we receive (and there's a lot of training). Ah you work in peoples homes, I was more asking the difference between a care home run by the Council apposed to a privately run care home" none we are govern by the same strict rules | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone ""Not the most dangerous profession in the country". Really? Right now you actually say this? 
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" I have never worked for an agency. I worked for a private care company. Agency work is usually Bank for for care homes. Private care is for people recieving care in their own home. Some is social service funded, some is privately paid by the client. There is no difference in the care offered. No difference in the training we receive (and there's a lot of training). Ah you work in peoples homes, I was more asking the difference between a care home run by the Council apposed to a privately run care home none we are govern by the same strict rules" I don't think I am getting across what I am asking....the care I would expect to be regulated, it was more the quality I was asking....the differences in some of the homes that I have seen on the telly at the moment is huge | |||
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"most care homes have been running on air for a while now they are not the cash cow some think homes are closing every week now if the care home system was to collapse even in a small way then the nhs is screwed ... some of these private care homes are council run all private care home must have certain number of beds for social funding its all interconnected ... move one piece it affect others mainly nhs " That makes a lot more sense Thank you. | |||
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" Ah you work in peoples homes, I was more asking the difference between a care home run by the Council apposed to a privately run care home" The Council do not run Care Homes! They merely place people in privately owned ones and pay the fee's. | |||
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" Ah you work in peoples homes, I was more asking the difference between a care home run by the Council apposed to a privately run care home The Council do not run Care Homes! They merely place people in privately owned ones and pay the fee's." They do some by the looks of it, having just googled | |||
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" The Council do not run Care Homes! They merely place people in privately owned ones and pay the fee's. See the post above." In which case they are very few and far between. We couldn't find one in my Mothers County!!! | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone
"Not the most dangerous profession in the country".
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" The Council do not run Care Homes! They merely place people in privately owned ones and pay the fee's. See the post above. In which case they are very few and far between. We couldn't find one in my Mothers County!!!" Well they must exist And like i said earlier they are 'apparently'injecting a billion into the care home sector. | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone
"Not the most dangerous profession in the country".
Really? Right now you actually say this?
Words don't often fail me, but......
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" See the post above. In which case they are very few and far between. We couldn't find one in my Mothers County!!! Well they must exist And like i said earlier they are 'apparently'injecting a billion into the care home sector." In which case it is right and proper that they fund them adequately. On the news, it looked to me as even private care homes were whinging and that shouldn't be the Governments fault. Anyway, hey ho, I am losing the will to live. | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone
"Not the most dangerous profession in the country".
Really? Right now you actually say this?
Words don't often fail me, but......
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The NHS is nowhere near the top of dangerous professions. Words may fail you but a little research may help you understand."We're not talking about ordinary circumstances are we. Sure. In normal times a nurse is unlikely to be at risk going to work. Nor a care worker tending to elderly residents. But if you either think these are normal times or that those providing fa e to face care to those infected with the virus aren't currently in the most dangerous situations then you really do need to give your head a wobble. Please tell me. Who you think is at the most risk. Now. Today. A | |||
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"Care workers especially but for everyone: what do we think of Matt Hancock's suggestion to give us all a badge? " Never owned a blue Peter badge. | |||
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" The Council do not run Care Homes! They merely place people in privately owned ones and pay the fee's. See the post above. In which case they are very few and far between. We couldn't find one in my Mothers County!!! Well they must exist And like i said earlier they are 'apparently'injecting a billion into the care home sector." 84% of care homes are run by private companies these people have been fleecing people for years and now have the cheek to blame the government.The owners and managers of these homes need holding to account in my opinion. | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone
"Not the most dangerous profession in the country".
Really? Right now you actually say this?
Words don't often fail me, but......
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The NHS is nowhere near the top of dangerous professions. Words may fail you but a little research may help you understand.
We're not talking about ordinary circumstances are we.
Sure. In normal times a nurse is unlikely to be at risk going to work. Nor a care worker tending to elderly residents.
But if you either think these are normal times or that those providing fa e to face care to those infected with the virus aren't currently in the most dangerous situations then you really do need to give your head a wobble.
Please tell me. Who you think is at the most risk. Now. Today.
A"Neither of us have the figures for that, I'm not say it's not risky at the minute as it obviously is, but I stand by my point that it is nowhere near the most dangerous profession in the country. In 5 or 10 years time it stilk won't be top of the most dangerous. As for giving my head a wobble, nah thanks, maybe you should wobble yours a bit more often | |||
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"So much vitriol and hatred in people sat behind their keyboards
Take a long hard look at yourselves and then ask yourselves what you would do?
You will then realise why you are sat behind a keyboard
Much like me, but I am not the one dishing out criticism and hatred!
I know, ingrates the lot of them, asking for life saving PPE and a living wage. They really should show some appreciation."Putting one's life on the line everyday at work for no extra. How ungrateful can you get!! | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone
"Not the most dangerous profession in the country".
Really? Right now you actually say this?
Words don't often fail me, but......
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The NHS is nowhere near the top of dangerous professions. Words may fail you but a little research may help you understand.
We're not talking about ordinary circumstances are we.
Sure. In normal times a nurse is unlikely to be at risk going to work. Nor a care worker tending to elderly residents.
But if you either think these are normal times or that those providing fa e to face care to those infected with the virus aren't currently in the most dangerous situations then you really do need to give your head a wobble.
Please tell me. Who you think is at the most risk. Now. Today.
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Neither of us have the figures for that, I'm not say it's not risky at the minute as it obviously is, but I stand by my point that it is nowhere near the most dangerous profession in the country. In 5 or 10 years time it stilk won't be top of the most dangerous. As for giving my head a wobble, nah thanks, maybe you should wobble yours a bit more often "Ok. Quick question. During the current crisis how many of your more dangerous workers have died going to their normal jobs. Utility workers. Shop workers. Truck drivers. Production workers. I'm sorry you're 'sick to death'of praise being heaped on NHS and care workers. It must be painful. A | |||
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"BADGES??? We don't need no stinking BADGES!!......blazing saddles great movie
An appropriate time for a Mel Brooks moment for sure
You realise that Blazing Saddles is referring to *classic* Spaghetti Western 'The Treasure of the Sierra Madre' - the 'badges' line is THE line of the whole movie and is considered to be a defining moment in the history of
cinema etc etc... "Very informative. Bits I remember are 'anybody move and the nigger gets it' and the farting, of course. | |||
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"Care workers especially but for everyone: what do we think of Matt Hancock's suggestion to give us all a badge? Never owned a blue Peter badge.What about a Jim will fix it one. no one owns up to having one of those these days."Less of a badge more of a medal. | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone
"Not the most dangerous profession in the country".
Really? Right now you actually say this?
Words don't often fail me, but......
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The NHS is nowhere near the top of dangerous professions. Words may fail you but a little research may help you understand.
We're not talking about ordinary circumstances are we.
Sure. In normal times a nurse is unlikely to be at risk going to work. Nor a care worker tending to elderly residents.
But if you either think these are normal times or that those providing fa e to face care to those infected with the virus aren't currently in the most dangerous situations then you really do need to give your head a wobble.
Please tell me. Who you think is at the most risk. Now. Today.
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Neither of us have the figures for that, I'm not say it's not risky at the minute as it obviously is, but I stand by my point that it is nowhere near the most dangerous profession in the country. In 5 or 10 years time it stilk won't be top of the most dangerous. As for giving my head a wobble, nah thanks, maybe you should wobble yours a bit more often
Ok. Quick question.
During the current crisis how many of your more dangerous workers have died going to their normal jobs.
Utility workers. Shop workers. Truck drivers. Production workers.
I'm sorry you're 'sick to death'of praise being heaped on NHS and care workers.
It must be painful.
A"Obviously, again, neither of us could collect those numbers. You seem very emotionally attached to this, are you and your partner in the care system? I repeat, the country is heaping too much praise on one set of workers while ignoring the greater contribution of the professions I mentioned. You failing to recognise this speaks volumes. As always life carries on...must dash | |||
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" Most care homes are privately run for profit and nothing to do with government. It is not the governments job to kit them out too, but they will. This was my assumption, if someone is complaining about wages or staffing levels etc then surely that should be aimed at the employer rather than the government" But along with voting for a cap on nurses' pay it was the government who did everything they could to class all in care; nursing homes, disabilities, etc. as unskilled and undeserving of nothing more than minimum wage. And now they want to award them a badge! | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone "Big respect to delivery drivers. Top men and women. The OP is about Matt Hancock saying he was going to give carers a badge. | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone
"Not the most dangerous profession in the country".
Really? Right now you actually say this?
Words don't often fail me, but......
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The NHS is nowhere near the top of dangerous professions. Words may fail you but a little research may help you understand.
We're not talking about ordinary circumstances are we.
Sure. In normal times a nurse is unlikely to be at risk going to work. Nor a care worker tending to elderly residents.
But if you either think these are normal times or that those providing fa e to face care to those infected with the virus aren't currently in the most dangerous situations then you really do need to give your head a wobble.
Please tell me. Who you think is at the most risk. Now. Today.
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Neither of us have the figures for that, I'm not say it's not risky at the minute as it obviously is, but I stand by my point that it is nowhere near the most dangerous profession in the country. In 5 or 10 years time it stilk won't be top of the most dangerous. As for giving my head a wobble, nah thanks, maybe you should wobble yours a bit more often
Ok. Quick question.
During the current crisis how many of your more dangerous workers have died going to their normal jobs.
Utility workers. Shop workers. Truck drivers. Production workers.
I'm sorry you're 'sick to death'of praise being heaped on NHS and care workers.
It must be painful.
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Obviously, again, neither of us could collect those numbers. You seem very emotionally attached to this, are you and your partner in the care system? I repeat, the country is heaping too much praise on one set of workers while ignoring the greater contribution of the professions I mentioned. You failing to recognise this speaks volumes. As always life carries on...must dash "Life carries on....
Not for many in the NHS and care industry.
Out of interest what extra are those other professions being asked to do? What 'greater contribution'?
Are we in the care system? No. My father is a resident in a home fortunate to have so far remained Covid free, largely due to staff moving in permanently - so zero contact with family and children. I have many friends in the NHS, some in hospitals where colleagues have died.
So apologies again for you being sick to death of that sector getting praised.
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" The Council do not run Care Homes! They merely place people in privately owned ones and pay the fee's. See the post above. In which case they are very few and far between. We couldn't find one in my Mothers County!!! Well they must exist And like i said earlier they are 'apparently'injecting a billion into the care home sector. 84% of care homes are run by private companies these people have been fleecing people for years and now have the cheek to blame the government.The owners and managers of these homes need holding to account in my opinion." For sure getting rich off others misfortune. Ain't non of us getting any younger. Who's job is it to ensure a fairer way with more rights and better pay? | |||
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"if unskilled then why are there nvq 2 ,3 , 4 , 5 ++++++ why are there uni course's not all carer's are unskilled even those that dont do course's are not unskilled " I think they are seen as unskilled arent they?hence the Low wages. Hopefully this will change when all this is over. | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone
"Not the most dangerous profession in the country".
Really? Right now you actually say this?
Words don't often fail me, but......
A
The NHS is nowhere near the top of dangerous professions. Words may fail you but a little research may help you understand.
We're not talking about ordinary circumstances are we.
Sure. In normal times a nurse is unlikely to be at risk going to work. Nor a care worker tending to elderly residents.
But if you either think these are normal times or that those providing fa e to face care to those infected with the virus aren't currently in the most dangerous situations then you really do need to give your head a wobble.
Please tell me. Who you think is at the most risk. Now. Today.
A
Neither of us have the figures for that, I'm not say it's not risky at the minute as it obviously is, but I stand by my point that it is nowhere near the most dangerous profession in the country. In 5 or 10 years time it stilk won't be top of the most dangerous. As for giving my head a wobble, nah thanks, maybe you should wobble yours a bit more often
Ok. Quick question.
During the current crisis how many of your more dangerous workers have died going to their normal jobs.
Utility workers. Shop workers. Truck drivers. Production workers.
I'm sorry you're 'sick to death'of praise being heaped on NHS and care workers.
It must be painful.
A
Obviously, again, neither of us could collect those numbers. You seem very emotionally attached to this, are you and your partner in the care system? I repeat, the country is heaping too much praise on one set of workers while ignoring the greater contribution of the professions I mentioned. You failing to recognise this speaks volumes. As always life carries on...must dash
Life carries on....
Not for many in the NHS and care industry.
Out of interest what extra are those other professions being asked to do? What 'greater contribution'?
Are we in the care system? No. My father is a resident in a home fortunate to have so far remained Covid free, largely due to staff moving in permanently - so zero contact with family and children. I have many friends in the NHS, some in hospitals where colleagues have died.
So apologies again for you being sick to death of that sector getting praised.
A"Firstly, I'd like to state I wish you Dad to be forever Covid-19 free. As for other professions greater contribution, again you show ignorance. Production of essentials has jumped massively, meaning extra shifts for those workers, delivery drivers too are doing more shifts - and coming into daily contact with the public, home shopping delivery drivers who are delivering essentials to vulnerable customers - again stepping up and facing a daily threat of infection. I personally haven't seen my wife, kids, or family for 4 weeks. | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone
"Not the most dangerous profession in the country".
Really? Right now you actually say this?
Words don't often fail me, but......
A
The NHS is nowhere near the top of dangerous professions. Words may fail you but a little research may help you understand.
We're not talking about ordinary circumstances are we.
Sure. In normal times a nurse is unlikely to be at risk going to work. Nor a care worker tending to elderly residents.
But if you either think these are normal times or that those providing fa e to face care to those infected with the virus aren't currently in the most dangerous situations then you really do need to give your head a wobble.
Please tell me. Who you think is at the most risk. Now. Today.
A
Neither of us have the figures for that, I'm not say it's not risky at the minute as it obviously is, but I stand by my point that it is nowhere near the most dangerous profession in the country. In 5 or 10 years time it stilk won't be top of the most dangerous. As for giving my head a wobble, nah thanks, maybe you should wobble yours a bit more often
Ok. Quick question.
During the current crisis how many of your more dangerous workers have died going to their normal jobs.
Utility workers. Shop workers. Truck drivers. Production workers.
I'm sorry you're 'sick to death'of praise being heaped on NHS and care workers.
It must be painful.
A
Obviously, again, neither of us could collect those numbers. You seem very emotionally attached to this, are you and your partner in the care system? I repeat, the country is heaping too much praise on one set of workers while ignoring the greater contribution of the professions I mentioned. You failing to recognise this speaks volumes. As always life carries on...must dash
Life carries on....
Not for many in the NHS and care industry.
Out of interest what extra are those other professions being asked to do? What 'greater contribution'?
Are we in the care system? No. My father is a resident in a home fortunate to have so far remained Covid free, largely due to staff moving in permanently - so zero contact with family and children. I have many friends in the NHS, some in hospitals where colleagues have died.
So apologies again for you being sick to death of that sector getting praised.
A
Firstly, I'd like to state I wish you Dad to be forever Covid-19 free. As for other professions greater contribution, again you show ignorance. Production of essentials has jumped massively, meaning extra shifts for those workers, delivery drivers too are doing more shifts - and coming into daily contact with the public, home shopping delivery drivers who are delivering essentials to vulnerable customers - again stepping up and facing a daily threat of infection. I personally haven't seen my wife, kids, or family for 4 weeks."Extra shifts. Interacting with the public (largely from a safe distance). And that's great that they're stepping up. But if you seriously think that's working at the same risk as up close, face to face care for the confirmed infected and dying......? I'm out. A | |||
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"I love the NHS, it's great and long may it continue. But, I'm sick to effing death of all the praise being directed towards NHS staff and Care workers. Yes they are frontline, yes they're in danger, not the most dangerous profession in the country btw. Do you know something, there is a bunch of low paid workers, without whom the NHS, care system, and basically the whole country would collapse within a day or two. Who are these superheroes I talk of you may ask, well I'll tell you...food, medical, ppe, and any other essential production workers. Then, the essential products are passed on to transport departments, including train and lorry drivers. These people distribute essentials to every corner of the country. Then other low paid workers risk their health at work every day, stacking shelves and such, so everyone can continue to exist. They even have to work unsociable hours to make sure everyone is provided for, then they have to work next to NHS staff who get preferential shopping hours, as they should, but are not allowed to wear facial coverings for protection. Then theres the workers who keep the utilities flowing, you would all be clapping in the dark, and cold, if it wasnt for them. So, the £1000 for NHS and carers, although I'm sure it would be welcomed, would be a kick in the face to the millions of low paid key workers who really keep this country running, and safe. Far too much praise for certain professions and not others. And, far too much infighting between workers at the lower end of the pay scale, anger that should be directed towards the elite who run this country. So let's clap for everyone who has to leave home to go to work. Stay safe everyone
"Not the most dangerous profession in the country".
Really? Right now you actually say this?
Words don't often fail me, but......
A
The NHS is nowhere near the top of dangerous professions. Words may fail you but a little research may help you understand.
We're not talking about ordinary circumstances are we.
Sure. In normal times a nurse is unlikely to be at risk going to work. Nor a care worker tending to elderly residents.
But if you either think these are normal times or that those providing fa e to face care to those infected with the virus aren't currently in the most dangerous situations then you really do need to give your head a wobble.
Please tell me. Who you think is at the most risk. Now. Today.
A
Neither of us have the figures for that, I'm not say it's not risky at the minute as it obviously is, but I stand by my point that it is nowhere near the most dangerous profession in the country. In 5 or 10 years time it stilk won't be top of the most dangerous. As for giving my head a wobble, nah thanks, maybe you should wobble yours a bit more often
Ok. Quick question.
During the current crisis how many of your more dangerous workers have died going to their normal jobs.
Utility workers. Shop workers. Truck drivers. Production workers.
I'm sorry you're 'sick to death'of praise being heaped on NHS and care workers.
It must be painful.
A
Obviously, again, neither of us could collect those numbers. You seem very emotionally attached to this, are you and your partner in the care system? I repeat, the country is heaping too much praise on one set of workers while ignoring the greater contribution of the professions I mentioned. You failing to recognise this speaks volumes. As always life carries on...must dash
Life carries on....
Not for many in the NHS and care industry.
Out of interest what extra are those other professions being asked to do? What 'greater contribution'?
Are we in the care system? No. My father is a resident in a home fortunate to have so far remained Covid free, largely due to staff moving in permanently - so zero contact with family and children. I have many friends in the NHS, some in hospitals where colleagues have died.
So apologies again for you being sick to death of that sector getting praised.
A
Firstly, I'd like to state I wish you Dad to be forever Covid-19 free. As for other professions greater contribution, again you show ignorance. Production of essentials has jumped massively, meaning extra shifts for those workers, delivery drivers too are doing more shifts - and coming into daily contact with the public, home shopping delivery drivers who are delivering essentials to vulnerable customers - again stepping up and facing a daily threat of infection. I personally haven't seen my wife, kids, or family for 4 weeks.
Extra shifts.
Interacting with the public (largely from a safe distance).
And that's great that they're stepping up.
But if you seriously think that's working at the same risk as up close, face to face care for the confirmed infected and dying......?
I'm out.
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