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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? " Is that from the government? | |||
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"Just because lock down is over, when is it safe to swing? I'm sure there's others with underlying health problems, in my case, heart, that might want to wait longer, to be sure. " The virus will be with us for a good while yet, may end up being like hiv, hep b etc.. An asymptomatic person doesn't even know they've got it so that will present particular issues for people who enjoy this aspect.. | |||
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"Just because lock down is over, when is it safe to swing? I'm sure there's others with underlying health problems, in my case, heart, that might want to wait longer, to be sure. " Some form of social distancing will still be in place even after the lockdown has been lifted to avoid a second wave which could be far worse than we are experiencing at the moment. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Is that from the government? " I don't think it was a government website | |||
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"Just because lock down is over, when is it safe to swing? I'm sure there's others with underlying health problems, in my case, heart, that might want to wait longer, to be sure. Some form of social distancing will still be in place even after the lockdown has been lifted to avoid a second wave which could be far worse than we are experiencing at the moment." They still don’t know enough about this virus to say if people could become reinfected. | |||
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"As soon as lockdown ends the floodgates will open for people meeting and may spike another lockdown." People are still meeting now, at work and in supermarkets, I suspect there will be restrictions on pubs restaurants etc for some time | |||
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"Peak admission of cases into hospital was 6000 on 4th April so we should have passed peak deaths. Nightingale hospital in London has 'two dozen patients'. Looks like we are post peak and in 2 weeks no. cases should be in the 100's if pattern similar to other countries. Fingers crossed for 3 weeks to lock down end. " Can i ask where your source for this admission data is? I've found lots of historical data but nothing that is particularly "live". I have been following the deaths rates, and modelled it that we are at, or just past the peak now  | |||
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"I dont think a date has been set as yet. Heard the 18th mentioned twice now but not found anything from the government " Govt meet and decide (not to release lockdown) tomorrow. It is likely they will keep us all where we are for another three weeks and then make another decision. The infection/hospital admission and death statistics nearer then will give a better indication if the lockdown comes off, or is in some ways reduced at that time. If the current ‘curve flattening’ holds and starts reducing we might see an easing of restrictions then.........a lot of ifs and maybes but there will be growing pressure to start easing off if the numbers are acceptable. It will be more clear then.....but there are a lot of buts. | |||
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"Whenever it happens, restrictions will be lifted slowly, forever watching the infection rates before moving to the next stage. I think when the government finally allow pubs and restaurants to open, it will be under restrictions. So for instance, booking tables in restaurants, spaces the tables out, no walk ins, limit on number of people in the venue. Pubs that are allowed to open, may only be able to do so if they sell food and people will be expected to book. There is no way the government will just allow a mass opening of public facilities. It will be a slow and controlled process. Swinging clubs and pubs will be amongst the last to be allowed to open for walk ins and unlimited numbers. " This. ^ | |||
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"I dont think a date has been set as yet. Heard the 18th mentioned twice now but not found anything from the government " They will be broadcasting updates to lockdown procedures on TV tomorrow. | |||
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"Going by the amount of car's I saw out and about today seems lockdown is already over." This yes roads look much busy than previous days. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? " Where did you see that? The health secretary didn't give that impression today. We'll just have to wait til tomorrow. | |||
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"Just had an argument with four blokes who had obviously agreed to meet up for a chat/drugs or whatever as it is a long way away from where you'd go. Stood in a huddle about 2ft from each other on a path expecting me to walk through the middle of them ! " I almost had an argument when I was queuing up to get served in my local shop. I was standing two meters behind the customer in front when a guy wearing gloves and a mask, stood being me almost touching me.  | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Where did you see that? The health secretary didn't give that impression today. We'll just have to wait til tomorrow. " A friend told me today and I googled it. If you type it into Google it should come up. | |||
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"Just because lock down is over, when is it safe to swing? I'm sure there's others with underlying health problems, in my case, heart, that might want to wait longer, to be sure. " Are you actually serious? You can't be with that post . Just because a couple restrictions may be removed in May ie a slow return to certain non essential work with strict social distancing in place doesn't mean anything will change . Where do you think the virus is going ? You think it's just going to disappear into thin air? Nothing will significantly change until a vaccine is found and distributed which by all accounts is a minimum of 18 months away. Until then, social distancing has to be a way of life and any social interaction will be risky and that of an intimate nature will be the equivalent to playing Russian roulette. This virus is , as we now see, can be deadly for even younger and healthier people and I'm afraid it ain't going anywhere | |||
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"Whenever it happens, restrictions will be lifted slowly, forever watching the infection rates before moving to the next stage. I think when the government finally allow pubs and restaurants to open, it will be under restrictions. So for instance, booking tables in restaurants, spaces the tables out, no walk ins, limit on number of people in the venue. Pubs that are allowed to open, may only be able to do so if they sell food and people will be expected to book. There is no way the government will just allow a mass opening of public facilities. It will be a slow and controlled process. Swinging clubs and pubs will be amongst the last to be allowed to open for walk ins and unlimited numbers. " Yes and in all likelihood only when a vaccine is found or are we goons social distance in clubs?! | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Where did you see that? The health secretary didn't give that impression today. We'll just have to wait til tomorrow. A friend told me today and I googled it. If you type it into Google it should come up. " I have just googled and found it in The Express. The claims seem ambitious at best. I think I’ll wait for official sources to advise | |||
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"I think there's some seriously deluded and misinformed people on here. Anyone who assumes that as soon as lockdown is lifted thing's will go straight back to normal are frankly insane. " I think you are right. It's going to be a gradual process I would think. | |||
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"Fucking marvellous, a week after my annual leave" You do realise that the government haven't actually decided or announced that date yet.its just someone on here posting it , right? | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? " Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. | |||
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"Just because lock down is over, when is it safe to swing? I'm sure there's others with underlying health problems, in my case, heart, that might want to wait longer, to be sure. Are you actually serious? You can't be with that post . Just because a couple restrictions may be removed in May ie a slow return to certain non essential work with strict social distancing in place doesn't mean anything will change . Where do you think the virus is going ? You think it's just going to disappear into thin air? Nothing will significantly change until a vaccine is found and distributed which by all accounts is a minimum of 18 months away. Until then, social distancing has to be a way of life and any social interaction will be risky and that of an intimate nature will be the equivalent to playing Russian roulette. This virus is , as we now see, can be deadly for even younger and healthier people and I'm afraid it ain't going anywhere" Crossing the road can be deadly, if you dont want to take any risk then it's very simple, stay in. Others realise that the virus will needed to be caught by most and the huge majority will not be badly affected, the only reason for lockdown us to slow admissions to hospital for the small percentage, it's not because it can be avoided, for all you know you could have already had it. When its lifted in three weeks I doubt pubs or clubs etc will open for a while, we need an antibody test so the gov can see how many have been infected and how many are left before we reach herd immunity | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Is that from the government? I don't think it was a government website " Thanks | |||
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"I think there's some seriously deluded and misinformed people on here. Anyone who assumes that as soon as lockdown is lifted thing's will go straight back to normal are frankly insane. " Yup....... it's going to take months to "get back to normal" and I don't mean a couple of months..... | |||
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"Going by the amount of car's I saw out and about today seems lockdown is already over. This yes roads look much busy than previous days." yeah I think the roads are much busier today. | |||
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"Peak admission of cases into hospital was 6000 on 4th April so we should have passed peak deaths. Nightingale hospital in London has 'two dozen patients'. Looks like we are post peak and in 2 weeks no. cases should be in the 100's if pattern similar to other countries. Fingers crossed for 3 weeks to lock down end. " I disagree. It made sense when the scientific expert on the podium last week stated to watch for plateauing hospital admission numbers - that's happening now. Following which we'll have our peak fatalities. So 2-3 weeks from the beginning of the plateau (a few days ago?) means the peak has yet to come. You cannot assess peak by a day's numbers due to all sorts of variations. | |||
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"I think there's some seriously deluded and misinformed people on here. Anyone who assumes that as soon as lockdown is lifted thing's will go straight back to normal are frankly insane. " I think insane is an understatement ! Do people not understand that this deadly virus is going nowhere until a vaccine is found and widely distributed?! | |||
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"If you look at new cases they peaked on 4th April.. death rates should fall 2 weeks from that date so soon. On Social distancing all measures are a waste if time if they keep the tube running ..go on it in rush hour and see ! Controversial but look at Sweden. No lock down restaurants open and far fewer cases than the UK as a proportion of the population. However a slow opening up is likely from mid may ..given the above, any later we won't have an economy left. If you are in poor health or over 65 worth staying locked down a lot lot longer "Most countries have far fewer cases than us tbf. | |||
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"If you look at new cases they peaked on 4th April.. death rates should fall 2 weeks from that date so soon. On Social distancing all measures are a waste if time if they keep the tube running ..go on it in rush hour and see ! Controversial but look at Sweden. No lock down restaurants open and far fewer cases than the UK as a proportion of the population. However a slow opening up is likely from mid may ..given the above, any later we won't have an economy left. If you are in poor health or over 65 worth staying locked down a lot lot longer "It’s very difficult to compare Sweden with the UK. They have a similar population to London but Sweden is nearly twice the size of UK hence a much lesser density of population. Sweden has a much higher death rate per million population than Norway and Denmark who did lock down. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? " In your dreams not what the government is saying. | |||
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"If you look at new cases they peaked on 4th April.. death rates should fall 2 weeks from that date so soon. On Social distancing all measures are a waste if time if they keep the tube running ..go on it in rush hour and see ! Controversial but look at Sweden. No lock down restaurants open and far fewer cases than the UK as a proportion of the population. However a slow opening up is likely from mid may ..given the above, any later we won't have an economy left. If you are in poor health or over 65 worth staying locked down a lot lot longer
It’s very difficult to compare Sweden with the UK. They have a similar population to London but Sweden is nearly twice the size of UK hence a much lesser density of population. Sweden has a much higher death rate per million population than Norway and Denmark who did lock down."Sweden is now possibly staring down a barrel. The people trusted the government in not implementing lockdown but not so much now. It's spreading and the original plan for 'herd immunity' is on the verge of failure | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? " Now where did I put my crystal ball...?!?! | |||
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"If you look at new cases they peaked on 4th April.. death rates should fall 2 weeks from that date so soon. On Social distancing all measures are a waste if time if they keep the tube running ..go on it in rush hour and see ! Controversial but look at Sweden. No lock down restaurants open and far fewer cases than the UK as a proportion of the population. However a slow opening up is likely from mid may ..given the above, any later we won't have an economy left. If you are in poor health or over 65 worth staying locked down a lot lot longer
Most countries have far fewer cases than us tbf."These are the current deaths per 1m population of the major countries in Europe. Spain 400 Belgium 383 Italy 358 France. 263 UK. 190 Holland. 183 Switzerland 143 Sweden. 119 Luxemberg 110 Germany 43 | |||
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"If you look at new cases they peaked on 4th April.. death rates should fall 2 weeks from that date so soon. On Social distancing all measures are a waste if time if they keep the tube running ..go on it in rush hour and see ! Controversial but look at Sweden. No lock down restaurants open and far fewer cases than the UK as a proportion of the population. However a slow opening up is likely from mid may ..given the above, any later we won't have an economy left. If you are in poor health or over 65 worth staying locked down a lot lot longer
Most countries have far fewer cases than us tbf.
These are the current deaths per 1m population of the major countries in Europe.
Spain 400
Belgium 383
Italy 358
France. 263
UK. 190
Holland. 183
Switzerland 143
Sweden. 119
Luxemberg 110
Germany 43"Its widely expected our figure is much higher re care homes etc | |||
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"Another 2 months would not go a miss..The biggest live meat /wet market/ wuhan China has reopened most stalls "I find the re-opening of these markets to be the most breathtaking insult | |||
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"If you look at new cases they peaked on 4th April.. death rates should fall 2 weeks from that date so soon. On Social distancing all measures are a waste if time if they keep the tube running ..go on it in rush hour and see ! Controversial but look at Sweden. No lock down restaurants open and far fewer cases than the UK as a proportion of the population. However a slow opening up is likely from mid may ..given the above, any later we won't have an economy left. If you are in poor health or over 65 worth staying locked down a lot lot longer
Most countries have far fewer cases than us tbf.
These are the current deaths per 1m population of the major countries in Europe.
Spain 400
Belgium 383
Italy 358
France. 263
UK. 190
Holland. 183
Switzerland 143
Sweden. 119
Luxemberg 110
Germany 43
Its widely expected our figure is much higher re care homes etc"I believe all these figures are collated in a similar way, ie hospital deaths. | |||
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"Just because lock down is over, when is it safe to swing? I'm sure there's others with underlying health problems, in my case, heart, that might want to wait longer, to be sure. Are you actually serious? You can't be with that post . Just because a couple restrictions may be removed in May ie a slow return to certain non essential work with strict social distancing in place doesn't mean anything will change . Where do you think the virus is going ? You think it's just going to disappear into thin air? Nothing will significantly change until a vaccine is found and distributed which by all accounts is a minimum of 18 months away. Until then, social distancing has to be a way of life and any social interaction will be risky and that of an intimate nature will be the equivalent to playing Russian roulette. This virus is , as we now see, can be deadly for even younger and healthier people and I'm afraid it ain't going anywhere" Read my post over again. I think as we're on a swingers site, it's a reasonable question to ask. You made my point! Just because lock down is over things won't be normal. | |||
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"Just because lock down is over, when is it safe to swing? I'm sure there's others with underlying health problems, in my case, heart, that might want to wait longer, to be sure. Are you actually serious? You can't be with that post . Just because a couple restrictions may be removed in May ie a slow return to certain non essential work with strict social distancing in place doesn't mean anything will change . Where do you think the virus is going ? You think it's just going to disappear into thin air? Nothing will significantly change until a vaccine is found and distributed which by all accounts is a minimum of 18 months away. Until then, social distancing has to be a way of life and any social interaction will be risky and that of an intimate nature will be the equivalent to playing Russian roulette. This virus is , as we now see, can be deadly for even younger and healthier people and I'm afraid it ain't going anywhere" I think I'll wait to hear from the professionals instead of being told what is and what isn't right by someone from a swinging site. | |||
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"Another 2 months would not go a miss..The biggest live meat /wet market/ wuhan China has reopened most stalls
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"Just because lock down is over, when is it safe to swing? I'm sure there's others with underlying health problems, in my case, heart, that might want to wait longer, to be sure. Some form of social distancing will still be in place even after the lockdown has been lifted to avoid a second wave which could be far worse than we are experiencing at the moment. They still don’t know enough about this virus to say if people could become reinfected." They been testing in Asia and found it to be the case but very low percentage... Our country taking it's time testing and only started moving on care homes  | |||
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"If you look at new cases they peaked on 4th April.. death rates should fall 2 weeks from that date so soon. On Social distancing all measures are a waste if time if they keep the tube running ..go on it in rush hour and see ! Controversial but look at Sweden. No lock down restaurants open and far fewer cases than the UK as a proportion of the population. However a slow opening up is likely from mid may ..given the above, any later we won't have an economy left. If you are in poor health or over 65 worth staying locked down a lot lot longer
Most countries have far fewer cases than us tbf.
These are the current deaths per 1m population of the major countries in Europe.
Spain 400
Belgium 383
Italy 358
France. 263
UK. 190
Holland. 183
Switzerland 143
Sweden. 119
Luxemberg 110
Germany 43"My friends from Germany saying their figures is reflected on more efficient testing and accurate recording of deaths. Their health care is more sufficient for the critically sick. If only our government didn't spend last 15 years destroying our nhs, would we be still in this mess with such high numbers? People's behaviour or government failings? | |||
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"If you look at new cases they peaked on 4th April.. death rates should fall 2 weeks from that date so soon. On Social distancing all measures are a waste if time if they keep the tube running ..go on it in rush hour and see ! Controversial but look at Sweden. No lock down restaurants open and far fewer cases than the UK as a proportion of the population. However a slow opening up is likely from mid may ..given the above, any later we won't have an economy left. If you are in poor health or over 65 worth staying locked down a lot lot longer
Most countries have far fewer cases than us tbf.
These are the current deaths per 1m population of the major countries in Europe.
Spain 400
Belgium 383
Italy 358
France. 263
UK. 190
Holland. 183
Switzerland 143
Sweden. 119
Luxemberg 110
Germany 43
My friends from Germany saying their figures is reflected on more efficient testing and accurate recording of deaths. Their health care is more sufficient for the critically sick. If only our government didn't spend last 15 years destroying our nhs, would we be still in this mess with such high numbers? People's behaviour or government failings? "Agreed to all of this | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July." The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening." This. ^ | |||
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"As soon as lockdown ends the floodgates will open for people meeting and may spike another lockdown. People are still meeting now, at work and in supermarkets, I suspect there will be restrictions on pubs restaurants etc for some time" See the supermarket thing happening a lot and suspect people are arranging to meet up. Though maybe that's just me being cynical. B | |||
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"Just had an argument with four blokes who had obviously agreed to meet up for a chat/drugs or whatever as it is a long way away from where you'd go. Stood in a huddle about 2ft from each other on a path expecting me to walk through the middle of them ! " you should have just coughed in front of them and then they would have soon moved xx | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening." And the lockdown has been far too effective because the Nightingale hospitals have barely had a patient and we have more spare icu beds available now than before this started. Sweden got it right with their sensible level of precautions. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening." This is exactly it. The government know the lockdown has a limit of 6 - 9 weeks before the British public have enough and start to rebel. We were always going to get the usual morons who can't even abide by the laws during normal times who would ignore the lockdown. A few more weeks though and many of the people talking about how important the lockdown is and 'doing there bit' will start to crack and rebel themselves. Unfortunately this isn't the same generation of people who lived through the second world war. People are far too selfish now. Throw in the fact that the economy simply will not survive it and the government will have no option to start opening things up. With the new icu beds and additional staff that have returned it will be very much mission accomplished and I think they have done an incredible job during the lockdown. Im not suggesting we will go back to normal for a while though. Schools will open people will go back to work and the shops will open back up along with most restaurants although I think social distancing measures will still dictate limited numbers in each of those. Pubs will be a while yet I think. Unfortunately I think we have to hope that between now and the vaccine they find better ways to treat the virus in the hope it saves lives as there needs to be a balance between safety and also people able to live their lives. My grandad is in his 80's and said he would rather have three months left if it was three months seeing friends and family rather than 18 months cooped up on his own. Its hard to disagree with him. | |||
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"Germany's figure would be far higher but they are recording the underlying health issue as the official cause of death in most cases, not the virus. People bleating on that Germany got it right over everyone else are wrong." Those pesky germans with their integrity and efficiency. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening. And the lockdown has been far too effective because the Nightingale hospitals have barely had a patient and we have more spare icu beds available now than before this started. Sweden got it right with their sensible level of precautions. " Far too effective? | |||
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"As soon as lockdown ends the floodgates will open for people meeting and may spike another lockdown." I worry about that too. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening. This is exactly it. The government know the lockdown has a limit of 6 - 9 weeks before the British public have enough and start to rebel. We were always going to get the usual morons who can't even abide by the laws during normal times who would ignore the lockdown. A few more weeks though and many of the people talking about how important the lockdown is and 'doing there bit' will start to crack and rebel themselves. Unfortunately this isn't the same generation of people who lived through the second world war. People are far too selfish now. Throw in the fact that the economy simply will not survive it and the government will have no option to start opening things up. With the new icu beds and additional staff that have returned it will be very much mission accomplished and I think they have done an incredible job during the lockdown. Im not suggesting we will go back to normal for a while though. Schools will open people will go back to work and the shops will open back up along with most restaurants although I think social distancing measures will still dictate limited numbers in each of those. Pubs will be a while yet I think. Unfortunately I think we have to hope that between now and the vaccine they find better ways to treat the virus in the hope it saves lives as there needs to be a balance between safety and also people able to live their lives. My grandad is in his 80's and said he would rather have three months left if it was three months seeing friends and family rather than 18 months cooped up on his own. Its hard to disagree with him." I'll have to look up "incredible job' I find it more than a bit worrying that people think we are almost through this. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening. This is exactly it. The government know the lockdown has a limit of 6 - 9 weeks before the British public have enough and start to rebel. We were always going to get the usual morons who can't even abide by the laws during normal times who would ignore the lockdown. A few more weeks though and many of the people talking about how important the lockdown is and 'doing there bit' will start to crack and rebel themselves. Unfortunately this isn't the same generation of people who lived through the second world war. People are far too selfish now. Throw in the fact that the economy simply will not survive it and the government will have no option to start opening things up. With the new icu beds and additional staff that have returned it will be very much mission accomplished and I think they have done an incredible job during the lockdown. Im not suggesting we will go back to normal for a while though. Schools will open people will go back to work and the shops will open back up along with most restaurants although I think social distancing measures will still dictate limited numbers in each of those. Pubs will be a while yet I think. Unfortunately I think we have to hope that between now and the vaccine they find better ways to treat the virus in the hope it saves lives as there needs to be a balance between safety and also people able to live their lives. My grandad is in his 80's and said he would rather have three months left if it was three months seeing friends and family rather than 18 months cooped up on his own. Its hard to disagree with him. I'll have to look up "incredible job' I find it more than a bit worrying that people think we are almost through this." Where did I say we are almost through this? Also, prior to saying the words 'incredible job' I used the words 'I think'. What I dont do is continually try to bombard people with someone else's data to try and win some form of political argument. It really is getting boring now. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening. This is exactly it. The government know the lockdown has a limit of 6 - 9 weeks before the British public have enough and start to rebel. We were always going to get the usual morons who can't even abide by the laws during normal times who would ignore the lockdown. A few more weeks though and many of the people talking about how important the lockdown is and 'doing there bit' will start to crack and rebel themselves. Unfortunately this isn't the same generation of people who lived through the second world war. People are far too selfish now. Throw in the fact that the economy simply will not survive it and the government will have no option to start opening things up. With the new icu beds and additional staff that have returned it will be very much mission accomplished and I think they have done an incredible job during the lockdown. Im not suggesting we will go back to normal for a while though. Schools will open people will go back to work and the shops will open back up along with most restaurants although I think social distancing measures will still dictate limited numbers in each of those. Pubs will be a while yet I think. Unfortunately I think we have to hope that between now and the vaccine they find better ways to treat the virus in the hope it saves lives as there needs to be a balance between safety and also people able to live their lives. My grandad is in his 80's and said he would rather have three months left if it was three months seeing friends and family rather than 18 months cooped up on his own. Its hard to disagree with him. I'll have to look up "incredible job' I find it more than a bit worrying that people think we are almost through this. Where did I say we are almost through this? Also, prior to saying the words 'incredible job' I used the words 'I think'. What I dont do is continually try to bombard people with someone else's data to try and win some form of political argument. It really is getting boring now. " I dont think they are doing an incredible job..far from it but we will leave that. There just seems a bit a sense that we are almost through.Read a few posts the last few days and got that feeling.Add in talk of lock down being lifted..I just dont think we are nearly through it at all | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening. This is exactly it. The government know the lockdown has a limit of 6 - 9 weeks before the British public have enough and start to rebel. We were always going to get the usual morons who can't even abide by the laws during normal times who would ignore the lockdown. A few more weeks though and many of the people talking about how important the lockdown is and 'doing there bit' will start to crack and rebel themselves. Unfortunately this isn't the same generation of people who lived through the second world war. People are far too selfish now. Throw in the fact that the economy simply will not survive it and the government will have no option to start opening things up. With the new icu beds and additional staff that have returned it will be very much mission accomplished and I think they have done an incredible job during the lockdown. Im not suggesting we will go back to normal for a while though. Schools will open people will go back to work and the shops will open back up along with most restaurants although I think social distancing measures will still dictate limited numbers in each of those. Pubs will be a while yet I think. Unfortunately I think we have to hope that between now and the vaccine they find better ways to treat the virus in the hope it saves lives as there needs to be a balance between safety and also people able to live their lives. My grandad is in his 80's and said he would rather have three months left if it was three months seeing friends and family rather than 18 months cooped up on his own. Its hard to disagree with him. I'll have to look up "incredible job' I find it more than a bit worrying that people think we are almost through this. Where did I say we are almost through this? Also, prior to saying the words 'incredible job' I used the words 'I think'. What I dont do is continually try to bombard people with someone else's data to try and win some form of political argument. It really is getting boring now. I dont think they are doing an incredible job..far from it but we will leave that. There just seems a bit a sense that we are almost through.Read a few posts the last few days and got that feeling.Add in talk of lock down being lifted..I just dont think we are nearly through it at all " Which is your opinion. I'm not sure why you can't just have an opinion and leave it at that? Rather than peppering your opinion throughout every single virus forum in the same belligerent manner? The fact that you seem to have time to comment on every post tells me you a aren't busy beavering away on the development of a vaccine, or carrying out clinical trials on pre-existing drugs. So maybe you are in fact, just like everyone else on fab. A member of the the public relying on news and information from someone else. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening. This is exactly it. The government know the lockdown has a limit of 6 - 9 weeks before the British public have enough and start to rebel. We were always going to get the usual morons who can't even abide by the laws during normal times who would ignore the lockdown. A few more weeks though and many of the people talking about how important the lockdown is and 'doing there bit' will start to crack and rebel themselves. Unfortunately this isn't the same generation of people who lived through the second world war. People are far too selfish now. Throw in the fact that the economy simply will not survive it and the government will have no option to start opening things up. With the new icu beds and additional staff that have returned it will be very much mission accomplished and I think they have done an incredible job during the lockdown. Im not suggesting we will go back to normal for a while though. Schools will open people will go back to work and the shops will open back up along with most restaurants although I think social distancing measures will still dictate limited numbers in each of those. Pubs will be a while yet I think. Unfortunately I think we have to hope that between now and the vaccine they find better ways to treat the virus in the hope it saves lives as there needs to be a balance between safety and also people able to live their lives. My grandad is in his 80's and said he would rather have three months left if it was three months seeing friends and family rather than 18 months cooped up on his own. Its hard to disagree with him. I'll have to look up "incredible job' I find it more than a bit worrying that people think we are almost through this. Where did I say we are almost through this? Also, prior to saying the words 'incredible job' I used the words 'I think'. What I dont do is continually try to bombard people with someone else's data to try and win some form of political argument. It really is getting boring now. I dont think they are doing an incredible job..far from it but we will leave that. There just seems a bit a sense that we are almost through.Read a few posts the last few days and got that feeling.Add in talk of lock down being lifted..I just dont think we are nearly through it at all Which is your opinion. I'm not sure why you can't just have an opinion and leave it at that? Rather than peppering your opinion throughout every single virus forum in the same belligerent manner? The fact that you seem to have time to comment on every post tells me you a aren't busy beavering away on the development of a vaccine, or carrying out clinical trials on pre-existing drugs. So maybe you are in fact, just like everyone else on fab. A member of the the public relying on news and information from someone else." I'm working actually. We do the police checks so the volunteers can go into hospitals etc. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening. This is exactly it. The government know the lockdown has a limit of 6 - 9 weeks before the British public have enough and start to rebel. We were always going to get the usual morons who can't even abide by the laws during normal times who would ignore the lockdown. A few more weeks though and many of the people talking about how important the lockdown is and 'doing there bit' will start to crack and rebel themselves. Unfortunately this isn't the same generation of people who lived through the second world war. People are far too selfish now. Throw in the fact that the economy simply will not survive it and the government will have no option to start opening things up. With the new icu beds and additional staff that have returned it will be very much mission accomplished and I think they have done an incredible job during the lockdown. Im not suggesting we will go back to normal for a while though. Schools will open people will go back to work and the shops will open back up along with most restaurants although I think social distancing measures will still dictate limited numbers in each of those. Pubs will be a while yet I think. Unfortunately I think we have to hope that between now and the vaccine they find better ways to treat the virus in the hope it saves lives as there needs to be a balance between safety and also people able to live their lives. My grandad is in his 80's and said he would rather have three months left if it was three months seeing friends and family rather than 18 months cooped up on his own. Its hard to disagree with him. I'll have to look up "incredible job' I find it more than a bit worrying that people think we are almost through this. Where did I say we are almost through this? Also, prior to saying the words 'incredible job' I used the words 'I think'. What I dont do is continually try to bombard people with someone else's data to try and win some form of political argument. It really is getting boring now. I dont think they are doing an incredible job..far from it but we will leave that. There just seems a bit a sense that we are almost through.Read a few posts the last few days and got that feeling.Add in talk of lock down being lifted..I just dont think we are nearly through it at all Which is your opinion. I'm not sure why you can't just have an opinion and leave it at that? Rather than peppering your opinion throughout every single virus forum in the same belligerent manner? The fact that you seem to have time to comment on every post tells me you a aren't busy beavering away on the development of a vaccine, or carrying out clinical trials on pre-existing drugs. So maybe you are in fact, just like everyone else on fab. A member of the the public relying on news and information from someone else." Well said, it's always the same few culprits who feel the need to bombard the virus threads with the same political bullshit. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening. This is exactly it. The government know the lockdown has a limit of 6 - 9 weeks before the British public have enough and start to rebel. We were always going to get the usual morons who can't even abide by the laws during normal times who would ignore the lockdown. A few more weeks though and many of the people talking about how important the lockdown is and 'doing there bit' will start to crack and rebel themselves. Unfortunately this isn't the same generation of people who lived through the second world war. People are far too selfish now. Throw in the fact that the economy simply will not survive it and the government will have no option to start opening things up. With the new icu beds and additional staff that have returned it will be very much mission accomplished and I think they have done an incredible job during the lockdown. Im not suggesting we will go back to normal for a while though. Schools will open people will go back to work and the shops will open back up along with most restaurants although I think social distancing measures will still dictate limited numbers in each of those. Pubs will be a while yet I think. Unfortunately I think we have to hope that between now and the vaccine they find better ways to treat the virus in the hope it saves lives as there needs to be a balance between safety and also people able to live their lives. My grandad is in his 80's and said he would rather have three months left if it was three months seeing friends and family rather than 18 months cooped up on his own. Its hard to disagree with him. I'll have to look up "incredible job' I find it more than a bit worrying that people think we are almost through this. Where did I say we are almost through this? Also, prior to saying the words 'incredible job' I used the words 'I think'. What I dont do is continually try to bombard people with someone else's data to try and win some form of political argument. It really is getting boring now. I dont think they are doing an incredible job..far from it but we will leave that. There just seems a bit a sense that we are almost through.Read a few posts the last few days and got that feeling.Add in talk of lock down being lifted..I just dont think we are nearly through it at all Which is your opinion. I'm not sure why you can't just have an opinion and leave it at that? Rather than peppering your opinion throughout every single virus forum in the same belligerent manner? The fact that you seem to have time to comment on every post tells me you a aren't busy beavering away on the development of a vaccine, or carrying out clinical trials on pre-existing drugs. So maybe you are in fact, just like everyone else on fab. A member of the the public relying on news and information from someone else. Well said, it's always the same few culprits who feel the need to bombard the virus threads with the same political bullshit. "  | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? " with over 15,000 people flying into UK from COVID-19 hotspots without getting any testing or checks and free to go as they please guess again. | |||
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"By the looks of it the Lockdown will be for another 3weeks so the Government are saying 2nd May." | |||
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"Whenever it happens, restrictions will be lifted slowly, forever watching the infection rates before moving to the next stage. I think when the government finally allow pubs and restaurants to open, it will be under restrictions. So for instance, booking tables in restaurants, spaces the tables out, no walk ins, limit on number of people in the venue. Pubs that are allowed to open, may only be able to do so if they sell food and people will be expected to book. There is no way the government will just allow a mass opening of public facilities. It will be a slow and controlled process. Swinging clubs and pubs will be amongst the last to be allowed to open for walk ins and unlimited numbers. " ?? | |||
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"If anyone is in any doubt about the lockdown being longer watch the last 5 mins of itv news this evening. Those 45 faces of medical professionals and carers who have lost their life so far in the crisis. " Yes because those are the only lives that should matter | |||
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"If anyone is in any doubt about the lockdown being longer watch the last 5 mins of itv news this evening. Those 45 faces of medical professionals and carers who have lost their life so far in the crisis. Yes because those are the only lives that should matter "are you trying to be funny?. Every life matters but those 45 died doing their job as will many more thanks to those selfish idiots still flouting the rules. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? Seems unlikely to me. We need a miracle to get (temporary) out of this before July. The lockdown has never been about getting out of it. It's been about slowing it enough so the NHS can cope. That is happening. This is exactly it. The government know the lockdown has a limit of 6 - 9 weeks before the British public have enough and start to rebel. We were always going to get the usual morons who can't even abide by the laws during normal times who would ignore the lockdown. A few more weeks though and many of the people talking about how important the lockdown is and 'doing there bit' will start to crack and rebel themselves. Unfortunately this isn't the same generation of people who lived through the second world war. People are far too selfish now. Throw in the fact that the economy simply will not survive it and the government will have no option to start opening things up. With the new icu beds and additional staff that have returned it will be very much mission accomplished and I think they have done an incredible job during the lockdown. Im not suggesting we will go back to normal for a while though. Schools will open people will go back to work and the shops will open back up along with most restaurants although I think social distancing measures will still dictate limited numbers in each of those. Pubs will be a while yet I think. Unfortunately I think we have to hope that between now and the vaccine they find better ways to treat the virus in the hope it saves lives as there needs to be a balance between safety and also people able to live their lives. My grandad is in his 80's and said he would rather have three months left if it was three months seeing friends and family rather than 18 months cooped up on his own. Its hard to disagree with him. I'll have to look up "incredible job' I find it more than a bit worrying that people think we are almost through this. Where did I say we are almost through this? Also, prior to saying the words 'incredible job' I used the words 'I think'. What I dont do is continually try to bombard people with someone else's data to try and win some form of political argument. It really is getting boring now. I dont think they are doing an incredible job..far from it but we will leave that. There just seems a bit a sense that we are almost through.Read a few posts the last few days and got that feeling.Add in talk of lock down being lifted..I just dont think we are nearly through it at all Which is your opinion. I'm not sure why you can't just have an opinion and leave it at that? Rather than peppering your opinion throughout every single virus forum in the same belligerent manner? The fact that you seem to have time to comment on every post tells me you a aren't busy beavering away on the development of a vaccine, or carrying out clinical trials on pre-existing drugs. So maybe you are in fact, just like everyone else on fab. A member of the the public relying on news and information from someone else. Well said, it's always the same few culprits who feel the need to bombard the virus threads with the same political bullshit. "Anyone seeking to score political points or make political capital out of this is pretty desperate. They're all over BookFace too. There's no sanctuary from their nonsense. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? " No way at least till the end of May then be gradual.It will be up to Boris anyway | |||
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"The Chinese are starting to have a second wave now Where’s the evidence of a second wave in China? WHO reports no deaths and only 52 new cases in the latest report. " The CCP really has done an excellent job in their management of this pandemic. When are they going to share with the rest of the world the secrets to keeping the numbers so low for a country of 1.3 billion people. Its remarkable for a population so densely populated in cities that they have hardly any new cases now. Whilst in Europe the numbers are still rising daily even though under strict lockdown rules. I just can't understand why these strict restrictions are not working for us. | |||
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"The Chinese are starting to have a second wave now Where’s the evidence of a second wave in China? WHO reports no deaths and only 52 new cases in the latest report. The CCP really has done an excellent job in their management of this pandemic. When are they going to share with the rest of the world the secrets to keeping the numbers so low for a country of 1.3 billion people. Its remarkable for a population so densely populated in cities that they have hardly any new cases now. Whilst in Europe the numbers are still rising daily even though under strict lockdown rules. I just can't understand why these strict restrictions are not working for us. " Possibly because we didn't do an excellent job in managing this pandemic. We were too slow off the mark, and haven't done rigorous tracing and testing. | |||
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"The Chinese are starting to have a second wave now Where’s the evidence of a second wave in China? WHO reports no deaths and only 52 new cases in the latest report. The CCP really has done an excellent job in their management of this pandemic. When are they going to share with the rest of the world the secrets to keeping the numbers so low for a country of 1.3 billion people. Its remarkable for a population so densely populated in cities that they have hardly any new cases now. Whilst in Europe the numbers are still rising daily even though under strict lockdown rules. I just can't understand why these strict restrictions are not working for us. " Have you even looked at the numbers? It is working, it was never going to happen overnight, it takes weeks. | |||
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"The Chinese are starting to have a second wave now Where’s the evidence of a second wave in China? WHO reports no deaths and only 52 new cases in the latest report. The CCP really has done an excellent job in their management of this pandemic. When are they going to share with the rest of the world the secrets to keeping the numbers so low for a country of 1.3 billion people. Its remarkable for a population so densely populated in cities that they have hardly any new cases now. Whilst in Europe the numbers are still rising daily even though under strict lockdown rules. I just can't understand why these strict restrictions are not working for us. " Because they monitor your every movement with app on citizens phones. China's population are linked to their mobile phones like you and I are linked to a nation insurance number. You can't buy a phone there without ID. That goes for signing in and out of neighbourhood and even into shopping centers. 1984 isnt a book of fiction their, its a blueprint for social control And the lockdown has not been lifted there. Schools haven't repoend and residents in some areas, such as certain provinces of wuhan are under more stringent lockdown measures than Europe. Want to fly into mainland china from Europe or the USA? Sure spend 2 weeks inside an isolation hotel at your own expense wich the ccp will decide which one it will be upon your arrival. During which point any time you can be thrown and sent back at their decision. Their measures work becuase chinas political power is a dictatorship. You don't get to decide what measures they use. They tell you. There are people in west who won't even vaccinate their children against know diseases with established vaccinations. Do you think anyone in the West would stand for having to download an app on their phone just to walk into a supermarket. They are more in control of the virus their because dictatorships are... More in control period. Thats not to say they havent completely fudged their numbers and lied but that's nothing new for the ccp | |||
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"The Chinese are starting to have a second wave now Where’s the evidence of a second wave in China? WHO reports no deaths and only 52 new cases in the latest report. The CCP really has done an excellent job in their management of this pandemic. When are they going to share with the rest of the world the secrets to keeping the numbers so low for a country of 1.3 billion people. Its remarkable for a population so densely populated in cities that they have hardly any new cases now. Whilst in Europe the numbers are still rising daily even though under strict lockdown rules. I just can't understand why these strict restrictions are not working for us. Have you even looked at the numbers? It is working, it was never going to happen overnight, it takes weeks. " Well it hasn't been working were I am, and its a strictly enforced lockdown here. The infection rate goes up around 5000 everyday and we are not even lifting restrictions until the earliest 11 th May, that date could even change for a later date. | |||
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"The Chinese are starting to have a second wave now Where’s the evidence of a second wave in China? WHO reports no deaths and only 52 new cases in the latest report. The CCP really has done an excellent job in their management of this pandemic. When are they going to share with the rest of the world the secrets to keeping the numbers so low for a country of 1.3 billion people. Its remarkable for a population so densely populated in cities that they have hardly any new cases now. Whilst in Europe the numbers are still rising daily even though under strict lockdown rules. I just can't understand why these strict restrictions are not working for us. " Because China’s lockdown is stricter. We still have idiots having parties and gatherings in parks. We’re also allowing flights with 15,000 a day into the country. China stopped all flights. I deal with China through my work and they went in to lockdown before their Chinese New Year. Some parts of Asia are still in lockdown. | |||
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"The Chinese are starting to have a second wave now Where’s the evidence of a second wave in China? WHO reports no deaths and only 52 new cases in the latest report. The CCP really has done an excellent job in their management of this pandemic. When are they going to share with the rest of the world the secrets to keeping the numbers so low for a country of 1.3 billion people. Its remarkable for a population so densely populated in cities that they have hardly any new cases now. Whilst in Europe the numbers are still rising daily even though under strict lockdown rules. I just can't understand why these strict restrictions are not working for us. Because China’s lockdown is stricter. We still have idiots having parties and gatherings in parks. We’re also allowing flights with 15,000 a day into the country. China stopped all flights. I deal with China through my work and they went in to lockdown before their Chinese New Year. Some parts of Asia are still in lockdown. " So half measures do nothing in an highly infectious pandemic. | |||
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"The Chinese are starting to have a second wave now Where’s the evidence of a second wave in China? WHO reports no deaths and only 52 new cases in the latest report. The CCP really has done an excellent job in their management of this pandemic. When are they going to share with the rest of the world the secrets to keeping the numbers so low for a country of 1.3 billion people. Its remarkable for a population so densely populated in cities that they have hardly any new cases now. Whilst in Europe the numbers are still rising daily even though under strict lockdown rules. I just can't understand why these strict restrictions are not working for us. Have you even looked at the numbers? It is working, it was never going to happen overnight, it takes weeks. Well it hasn't been working were I am, and its a strictly enforced lockdown here. The infection rate goes up around 5000 everyday and we are not even lifting restrictions until the earliest 11 th May, that date could even change for a later date. " Where are you? | |||
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"The Chinese are starting to have a second wave now Where’s the evidence of a second wave in China? WHO reports no deaths and only 52 new cases in the latest report. The CCP really has done an excellent job in their management of this pandemic. When are they going to share with the rest of the world the secrets to keeping the numbers so low for a country of 1.3 billion people. Its remarkable for a population so densely populated in cities that they have hardly any new cases now. Whilst in Europe the numbers are still rising daily even though under strict lockdown rules. I just can't understand why these strict restrictions are not working for us. Because China’s lockdown is stricter. We still have idiots having parties and gatherings in parks. We’re also allowing flights with 15,000 a day into the country. China stopped all flights. I deal with China through my work and they went in to lockdown before their Chinese New Year. Some parts of Asia are still in lockdown. " I read about that flights thing today..that is insane. | |||
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""UK curfew could be lifted by May 18 as new infections decline" Do anyone think this will happen? " May 18? Not 18th May? What is the source of this quote? | |||
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"The Chinese are starting to have a second wave now Where’s the evidence of a second wave in China? WHO reports no deaths and only 52 new cases in the latest report. The CCP really has done an excellent job in their management of this pandemic. When are they going to share with the rest of the world the secrets to keeping the numbers so low for a country of 1.3 billion people. Its remarkable for a population so densely populated in cities that they have hardly any new cases now. Whilst in Europe the numbers are still rising daily even though under strict lockdown rules. I just can't understand why these strict restrictions are not working for us. Because they monitor your every movement with app on citizens phones. China's population are linked to their mobile phones like you and I are linked to a nation insurance number. You can't buy a phone there without ID. That goes for signing in and out of neighbourhood and even into shopping centers. 1984 isnt a book of fiction their, its a blueprint for social control And the lockdown has not been lifted there. Schools haven't repoend and residents in some areas, such as certain provinces of wuhan are under more stringent lockdown measures than Europe. Want to fly into mainland china from Europe or the USA? Sure spend 2 weeks inside an isolation hotel at your own expense wich the ccp will decide which one it will be upon your arrival. During which point any time you can be thrown and sent back at their decision. Their measures work becuase chinas political power is a dictatorship. You don't get to decide what measures they use. They tell you. There are people in west who won't even vaccinate their children against know diseases with established vaccinations. Do you think anyone in the West would stand for having to download an app on their phone just to walk into a supermarket. They are more in control of the virus their because dictatorships are... More in control period. Thats not to say they havent completely fudged their numbers and lied but that's nothing new for the ccp" Yes I understand they have a traffic light system on their phones. Opening the borders with neighbouring provinces was to let stuck people out of Wuhan, but were obviously clear of the virus. As I understand it they have lockdown again. No I wouldn't trust a single word that comes officially out of China, as you say the regime there is good at keeping tabs on its citizens and enforcing control. | |||
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"The Chinese are starting to have a second wave now Where’s the evidence of a second wave in China? WHO reports no deaths and only 52 new cases in the latest report. The CCP really has done an excellent job in their management of this pandemic. When are they going to share with the rest of the world the secrets to keeping the numbers so low for a country of 1.3 billion people. Its remarkable for a population so densely populated in cities that they have hardly any new cases now. Whilst in Europe the numbers are still rising daily even though under strict lockdown rules. I just can't understand why these strict restrictions are not working for us. Have you even looked at the numbers? It is working, it was never going to happen overnight, it takes weeks. Well it hasn't been working were I am, and its a strictly enforced lockdown here. The infection rate goes up around 5000 everyday and we are not even lifting restrictions until the earliest 11 th May, that date could even change for a later date. Where are you?" France | |||
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