FabSwingers.com forum: Will face masks become compulsory in a public place?

By *asIsa OP Couple
over a year ago

harrow

The WHO (bunch of muppets admittedly ! ) are now pushing for countries to make it compulsory for people to wear face masks after restrictions begin to get lifted. Spain is handing out millions and other countries have even made it compulsory. It appears that wearing some type of mask (surgical, folded cloth etc) may not give you much extra protection, however it does appear that it's harder to transmit the disease if you wear one. Thoughts?

It looks like it could become the norm until after vaccine (big if) . Thoughts?

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

That's going to play havoc with the facial recognition software that is starting to be used...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couldn't find anything about this in the media.

Do you have any links?

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London

As I understand it (and no expert, just an interested observer like most of us), masks help prevent anyone with an infection (known or unknown) passing it on to others, so there is some sense it people wearing them as restrictions are lifted, in case anyone has the virus but doesn't know.

But a mask won't stop you getting infected if you have the virus on your hands and later touch your face - hence the importance of hand washing, always!

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By *abuma65Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

There's enough credible advisers saying we should ie Harold Varmus Nobel prize winning virologist,Dr Harvey Fineberg chair of Infectious Disease Committee, some modelling done by Yale Researchers ...and behaviours in Taiwan, South Korea. I'm happy to go with this ...

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By *abuma65Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

There was an article in there Guardian discussing evidence and advice 4th April 2020

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chinese people have been wearing masks for years, didnt stop this happening, and they have already said that face masks make no difference ( Dr Hilary on GMB for the people who ask for links ) more rubbish news i suspect, or Facebook c€¥?

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By *itonmyfacebookMan
over a year ago

Burton on Trent

"Couldn't find anything about this in the media.

Do you have any links?"

Some professional bod was talking about it on R4 earlier. Obviously not just them but Gave the example of hairdressers as a profession which comes into contact with others when wearing face masks will be the norm for years to come.

They also talked of the phone app where if someone gets tested + everyone they've come into contact with gets a message. Working well in Singapore apparently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a regular user of breathing apparatus and face masks in my job i think most people do not understand how they work.

Unless its an adjustable tight fit it will not seal airtight to the face. So if you have a beard for example its very hard to get an airtight seal.

Regular use of one mask will result in that mask gradually blocking up with the result that as your breathing your sucking in and expelling round the untight edges.

Masks will not stop eye contact with the virus, even a visor will not stop it getting round the edges.

Masks and visors cut down the the exposure risk but do not completely prevent it.

You could always lug around a three stage filter air fed system powered by a compressor but going to need a long extension lead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As I understand it (and no expert, just an interested observer like most of us), masks help prevent anyone with an infection (known or unknown) passing it on to others, so there is some sense it people wearing them as restrictions are lifted, in case anyone has the virus but doesn't know.

But a mask won't stop you getting infected if you have the virus on your hands and later touch your face - hence the importance of hand washing, always! "

I agree. Also when you are wearing a facemask it helps you to remember to not unmindfully put your fingers near your nose or mouth. Just the fact that you are wearing it may make a difference in that way.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

It's been made compulsory in several countries that are further through than us x

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

"As a regular user of breathing apparatus and face masks in my job i think most people do not understand how they work.

Unless its an adjustable tight fit it will not seal airtight to the face. So if you have a beard for example its very hard to get an airtight seal.

Regular use of one mask will result in that mask gradually blocking up with the result that as your breathing your sucking in and expelling round the untight edges.

Masks will not stop eye contact with the virus, even a visor will not stop it getting round the edges.

Masks and visors cut down the the exposure risk but do not completely prevent it.

You could always lug around a three stage filter air fed system powered by a compressor but going to need a long extension lead."

You said this before but they are not talking about fully sealed breathing aperatus.

Its about reducing the the risk of spreading or contracting the virus.

Washing hands, distancing, and covering you airways won't stop the virus but it will slow it down.

And these are the cheapest and easiest way to do it.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

They're far from foolproof, but I guess it'll reduce the spread radius if anyone coughs.

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By *ireman28Man
over a year ago

Derbyshire Nottinghamshire

They should be

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"Couldn't find anything about this in the media.

Do you have any links?"

The advice from WHO hasn’t changed

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By *itonmyfacebookMan
over a year ago

Burton on Trent

"It's been made compulsory in several countries that are further through than us x "

Yes. They talked that on the radio this morning too. It'll be on R4 podcast.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you make something compulsory it at least has to be readily available and affordable for everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's going to play havoc with the facial recognition software that is starting to be used..."

Not really as china are using cameras that can detect the face even with a mask...

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

"If you make something compulsory it at least has to be readily available and affordable for everyone."

Oh, I’m sure this government can manage that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Couldn't find anything about this in the media.

Do you have any links?"

No link from me but I have seen the announcement by WHO stating this..so I can confirm it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But a mask won't stop you getting infected if you have the virus on your hands and later touch your face - hence the importance of hand washing, always! "

You are partly correct. A surgical type mask will help to stop the spread by wearing it. And it's what I think any exit plan will need.

But a FFP3 mask will(if fitted correctly) stop you inhaling it...but you also need eye protection too.

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By *bi HaiveMan
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over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

If it's made compulsory I think it'll really piss off the 'ban the burqa' crowd.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If you make something compulsory it at least has to be readily available and affordable for everyone."

The surgical typ of mask that who mentioned is readily available

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who is on sky news now

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

"That's going to play havoc with the facial recognition software that is starting to be used...

Not really as china are using cameras that can detect the face even with a mask..."

I'm now stuck at the halfway point between being worried and impressed...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's going to play havoc with the facial recognition software that is starting to be used...

Not really as china are using cameras that can detect the face even with a mask...

I'm now stuck at the halfway point between being worried and impressed...

Time to stop robbing banks eh

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

I'm now stuck at the halfway point between being worried and impressed...

Time to stop robbing banks eh

...and running g into a phone box to get changed...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

hope so.

some right ugly bastards out there

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

I don't think they will become compulsory and one of the reasons is because I don't think there's enough of them for people to get hold of and the NHS needs to take priority.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

the WHO position has always been that the recommendation is you don't to wear a mask is you are fit and healthy... which is technically correct...

the problem is because you can carry his asymptomatically without testing you have no true way to confirm whether you have it, have had it, or never had it at all....

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

That is their current advice on the website.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

That is their current advice on the website. "

They are updating it tomorrow with 6 sections...I think this will be in section 1 "transmission "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't think they will become compulsory and one of the reasons is because I don't think there's enough of them for people to get hold of and the NHS needs to take priority."

You can get hold of the surgical masks quite easily...that's the one they are talking about to stop transmission

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

ANPR camera installations - Face Recognition Cameras for speeding, insurance, road tax, parking etc etc.

Banks.

The Police in general won't like the widespread use of masks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The WHO (bunch of muppets admittedly ! ) are now pushing for countries to make it compulsory for people to wear face masks after restrictions begin to get lifted. Spain is handing out millions and other countries have even made it compulsory. It appears that wearing some type of mask (surgical, folded cloth etc) may not give you much extra protection, however it does appear that it's harder to transmit the disease if you wear one. Thoughts?

It looks like it could become the norm until after vaccine (big if) . Thoughts? "

Why are they a bunch of muppets at the WHO?

Face masks are to protect others from you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who is on sky news now"

I dunno, tell me, who is on the news right now?

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By *asIsa OP Couple
over a year ago

harrow

It looks like it could become the norm until after vaccine (big if) . Thoughts?

Why are they a bunch of muppets at the WHO?

Face masks are to protect others from you. "

I meant generally that the WHO have proven to be a total bunch of muppets since this all began . Re face masks - it's a yes from me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It looks like it could become the norm until after vaccine (big if) . Thoughts?

Why are they a bunch of muppets at the WHO?

Face masks are to protect others from you.

I meant generally that the WHO have proven to be a total bunch of muppets since this all began . Re face masks - it's a yes from me"

WHO, bunch of Muppets?

They have offered good advice, and countries who followed there advice have the slowest infection rates.

What has the WHO done wrong in your eyes?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who is on sky news now

I dunno, tell me, who is on the news right now?

I know after I hurriedly typed that, that some smart ass would add a question mark to that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who is on sky news now

I dunno, tell me, who is on the news right now?

I know after I hurriedly typed that, that some smart ass would add a question mark to that

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

The same WHO who advised us not to close borders with china and caused this chaos... not sure I believe a think they say anymore!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The same WHO who advised us not to close borders with china and caused this chaos... not sure I believe a think they say anymore!! "

I have no idea if your claim is correct. But how would that have helped exactly? After the virus had already spread to Italy, Iran etc.

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

"The same WHO who advised us not to close borders with china and caused this chaos... not sure I believe a think they say anymore!!

I have no idea if your claim is correct. But how would that have helped exactly? After the virus had already spread to Italy, Iran etc."

This was before confirmed cases anywhere except china. As some counties discussed doing it and WHO advised against it. As it could prevent a cure, etc with information sharing.

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By *eliciousladyWoman
over a year ago

Sometimes U.K

"As a regular user of breathing apparatus and face masks in my job i think most people do not understand how they work...

Masks and visors cut down the the exposure risk but do not completely prevent it."

Surely ‘cutting down the risk’ is better than no mask?

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

"The same WHO who advised us not to close borders with china and caused this chaos... not sure I believe a think they say anymore!!

I have no idea if your claim is correct. But how would that have helped exactly? After the virus had already spread to Italy, Iran etc.

This was before confirmed cases anywhere except china. As some counties discussed doing it and WHO advised against it. As it could prevent a cure, etc with information sharing."

Can you get a source for that? I'm paraphrasing but I thought the advice was test, treat, trace, test, trace..........

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

"The same WHO who advised us not to close borders with china and caused this chaos... not sure I believe a think they say anymore!!

I have no idea if your claim is correct. But how would that have helped exactly? After the virus had already spread to Italy, Iran etc.

This was before confirmed cases anywhere except china. As some counties discussed doing it and WHO advised against it. As it could prevent a cure, etc with information sharing.

Can you get a source for that? I'm paraphrasing but I thought the advice was test, treat, trace, test, trace.........."

Sorry I was looking for the information. This source is dated jan 24th direct from WHO. Even following human to human transmittion they didnt seem to think restriction of travel was required.

https://www.who.int/news-room/articles-detail/updated-who-advice-for-international-traffic-in-relation-to-the-outbreak-of-the-novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-24-jan

Theres one dated 14 days earlier where they also said similar yet there was not much human to human transmission then. Within 14 days there was but they didnt seem to think restriction of travel was required.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Couldn't find anything about this in the media.

Do you have any links?"
It was on Sky news it is stupid,there are not enough face masks of the right quality available,also a security risk and very unhealthy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Couldn't find anything about this in the media.

Do you have any links?It was on Sky news it is stupid,there are not enough face masks of the right quality available,also a security risk and very unhealthy"

The virus is unhealthy and things that stop the spread of it is good

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Governments are telling people to wear masks not because they work but people feel safer, and move about more. It's keeps folk happy so it works. It's like they told people to eat carrots so they could see better in the black out, truth was we could grow plenty of carrots but it worked.

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By *asIsa OP Couple
over a year ago

harrow

It looks like it could become the norm until after vaccine (big if) . Thoughts?

Why are they a bunch of muppets at the WHO?

Face masks are to protect others from you.

I meant generally that the WHO have proven to be a total bunch of muppets since this all began . Re face masks - it's a yes from me

WHO, bunch of Muppets?

They have offered good advice, and countries who followed there advice have the slowest infection rates.

What has the WHO done wrong in your eyes?"

The same WHO who a few months ago said it was not possible for 'human to human contamination'! Great advice - Remember ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It looks like it could become the norm until after vaccine (big if) . Thoughts?

Why are they a bunch of muppets at the WHO?

Face masks are to protect others from you.

I meant generally that the WHO have proven to be a total bunch of muppets since this all began . Re face masks - it's a yes from me

WHO, bunch of Muppets?

They have offered good advice, and countries who followed there advice have the slowest infection rates.

What has the WHO done wrong in your eyes?

The same WHO who a few months ago said it was not possible for 'human to human contamination'! Great advice - Remember ? "

Oh, do you have any links to this info?

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

If everyone is not breathing viruses out or touching your mouth as you cough or sneeze... Then no need for eye or hand protection in public assuming everyone's mouth covered... As for asia already wearing masks. Not everyone wears masks and all the time in public places. Usually people wear it for commuting or working in public sectors like bus driver or in supermarket and mainly because of air pollution. It's a clustered community contamination so if you're infected, who ever you live or work with in the same building is more likely to be infected. Conmon sense and understanding how virus spreads is better than scare mongering

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By *ou only live onceMan
over a year ago

London

But a mask won't stop you getting infected if you have the virus on your hands and later touch your face - hence the importance of hand washing, always!

You are partly correct. A surgical type mask will help to stop the spread by wearing it. And it's what I think any exit plan will need.

But a FFP3 mask will(if fitted correctly) stop you inhaling it...but you also need eye protection too."

Thank you! I can't imagine that level of protection being mandated across the whole country, but who knows - these are exceptional times! Thanks for clarifying.

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By *herryblossom_BJWoman
over a year ago

Oxfordshire/Hampshire

Masks should be worn by everyone is to protect everyone. People need to do their research more and listen to expert advice instead of getting caught up on what type of mask to wear etc if uk are right that wearing masks is unhelpful, then the rest of the world must be doing it wrong...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Masks should be worn by everyone is to protect everyone. People need to do their research more and listen to expert advice instead of getting caught up on what type of mask to wear etc if uk are right that wearing masks is unhelpful, then the rest of the world must be doing it wrong... "
Wearing a mask make you feel safer, or a full face mask is needed good luck buy enough of them for everyone.

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

But a mask won't stop you getting infected if you have the virus on your hands and later touch your face - hence the importance of hand washing, always!

You are partly correct. A surgical type mask will help to stop the spread by wearing it. And it's what I think any exit plan will need.

But a FFP3 mask will(if fitted correctly) stop you inhaling it...but you also need eye protection too."

What I'm gathering here is that a respirator is the best protection, as they cover your whole face?

A respirator that is good for NBC purposes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But a mask won't stop you getting infected if you have the virus on your hands and later touch your face - hence the importance of hand washing, always!

You are partly correct. A surgical type mask will help to stop the spread by wearing it. And it's what I think any exit plan will need.

But a FFP3 mask will(if fitted correctly) stop you inhaling it...but you also need eye protection too.

What I'm gathering here is that a respirator is the best protection, as they cover your whole face?

A respirator that is good for NBC purposes. "

For anyone with underlying conditions (especially people who are now shielded) I would recommend the FFP2 of FFP3 mask as the reduce the risk of being infected.

But they are quite expensive to buy now as a quick look on ebay is showing them at over a £100 for a box of 10.

The surgical face masks which will help stopping the spread from you when wearing it... and the most likely one to be put forward on a exit plan are around a £1 each on ebay.

But both of these masks were only 10% of the price pre COVID-19.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are trying to cause mass hysteria out of nothing, there is a conspiracy that bill gates have something to do with the vaccine as well.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"They are trying to cause mass hysteria out of nothing, there is a conspiracy that bill gates have something to do with the vaccine as well."

Too many people looking out the Windows

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By *aughtyLondonGuyMan
over a year ago

london

Maybe we will be fucking in masks too

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple
over a year ago

Basingstoke

It looks like it could become the norm until after vaccine (big if) . Thoughts?

Why are they a bunch of muppets at the WHO?

Face masks are to protect others from you.

I meant generally that the WHO have proven to be a total bunch of muppets since this all began . Re face masks - it's a yes from me

WHO, bunch of Muppets?

They have offered good advice, and countries who followed there advice have the slowest infection rates.

What has the WHO done wrong in your eyes?"

Like when they said there's no evidence of human to human transmission in January and no need for travel bans, yeah great advice. I'm all for face masks, the real reason we haven't done this is because the government is shit scared the NHS will run out, not because they don't work.

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By *asIsa OP Couple
over a year ago

harrow

It looks like it could become the norm until after vaccine (big if) . Thoughts?

Why are they a bunch of muppets at the WHO?

Face masks are to protect others from you.

I meant generally that the WHO have proven to be a total bunch of muppets since this all began . Re face masks - it's a yes from me

WHO, bunch of Muppets?

They have offered good advice, and countries who followed there advice have the slowest infection rates.

What has the WHO done wrong in your eyes?

The same WHO who a few months ago said it was not possible for 'human to human contamination'! Great advice - Remember ?

Oh, do you have any links to this info?"

Yes , 18th Jan - go read it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people should definitely wear face masks.....permanently. some ugly feckers in Tesco yesterday...

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By *aughtyLondonGuyMan
over a year ago

london

The WHO said face masks will be compulsory to wear whilst attending orgies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It now appears they are advising to use face coverings as opposed to face masks...hmmmm

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We'll follow some science and ignore what's inconvenient.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

I think that a large portion of people will wear them anyway regardless of advice, to help them feel safer out and about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think that a large portion of people will wear them anyway regardless of advice, to help them feel safer out and about. "
Maybe feel safer but a mask stops you spreading the virus, you can still catch it so you're not safer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think that a large portion of people will wear them anyway regardless of advice, to help them feel safer out and about. Maybe feel safer but a mask stops you spreading the virus, you can still catch it so you're not safer. "

But if everyone wore a face covering...everyone would be safer eh...

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

Most home made face masks will protect better than nothing. I've made a few this week for people. And read that apparently putting an extra layer of nylon stockings within them makes them better. Something I'm sure many of us have spares.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

If I am coughing, sneezing and slavering like a bloodhound, I will not be going outside.

If I’m not coughing and sneezing I see no need to wear one.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"If I am coughing, sneezing and slavering like a bloodhound, I will not be going outside.

If I’m not coughing and sneezing I see no need to wear one."
what about allergies or those that have asthma?

You may also not know you have it. So what would it hurt to wear one.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

"If I am coughing, sneezing and slavering like a bloodhound, I will not be going outside.

If I’m not coughing and sneezing I see no need to wear one. what about allergies or those that have asthma?

You may also not know you have it. So what would it hurt to wear one. "

What would a person with allergies or asthma normally do? - they wouldn’t randomly cough, sneeze and splatter slaver everywhere without doing something considerate to protect those around them ?

If I have it and I’m not showing symptoms then I’m not coughing, sneezing and spewing slaver everywhere . Im also washing my hands and not touching my face .

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By *avana8817Man
over a year ago

Consett

I work for a company that produces mask-respirators...not mentioning names as I don’t want questions about the companies logistics.

Their are different types of Masks,

FFp3 respirators/mask stops the user from getting infected, however they need to be fit tested for size, to ensure the seal fits correctly.

A surgical masks-the ones that loop around your ears etc are to stop a person from spreading the disease, the material needs to woven thinly to ensure no vapor escapes etc, this is why under pants and these Chinese masks don’t work. The same as these 1 man band companies springing up, they need to made in a certain way... your wasting your money as I assume people are wearing to protect themselves, which they can’t function that way.

However if you have a facial hair of any length you need a hooded head piece as you can’t get a seal over facial hair. These are expensive. The above two will not work.

How are they going to make people have a fit test, this is time consuming and expensive and their is not enough people with the correct training to offer this? It’s done with certain test equipment with consumables called bitter/sweat these cost money.

However the other problem again is people with Facial hair, they need to have hooded mask, unless they make people shave every day, which people won’t, you need hooded equipment.

There’s to many logistics to make this mandatory, it’s not as cut and dry as people think.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

"As a regular user of breathing apparatus and face masks in my job i think most people do not understand how they work.

Unless its an adjustable tight fit it will not seal airtight to the face. So if you have a beard for example its very hard to get an airtight seal.

Regular use of one mask will result in that mask gradually blocking up with the result that as your breathing your sucking in and expelling round the untight edges.

Masks will not stop eye contact with the virus, even a visor will not stop it getting round the edges.

Masks and visors cut down the the exposure risk but do not completely prevent it.

You could always lug around a three stage filter air fed system powered by a compressor but going to need a long extension lead."

A diving helmet might work

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

"Couldn't find anything about this in the media.

Do you have any links?"

Sent you the poster that’s being used in Nigeria explaining it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Couldn't find anything about this in the media.

Do you have any links?

Sent you the poster that’s being used in Nigeria explaining it "

Thank you.

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By *oddyWoman
over a year ago

between havant and chichester

I've got a cat one for when I'm.allowed out

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Couldn't find anything about this in the media.

Do you have any links?It was on Sky news it is stupid,there are not enough face masks of the right quality available,also a security risk and very unhealthy

The virus is unhealthy and things that stop the spread of it is good

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They need to be washed all the time and also people can get careless thinking masks keep them safe

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"We'll follow some science and ignore what's inconvenient. "
Different scientist say different things

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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

We will all be using face masks in the midterm until a vaccine is found.

Sadly we have to change our mindset from:

I need to do everything I can to avoid getting infected and fuck everyone else....

I might be infected and I need to do everything I can to stop myself infecting others.

When we think about protecting other people instead of ourselves, the wearing of masks becomes an obvious move.

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