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By *istyblue1967 OP   Man
over a year ago

manchester

these idiots that are flauting the lockdown instruction. they should be fined. the money goes to the nhs.

then in 2 weeks time when they need the nhs because they have contracted ....... dont get a bed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was reported on North West news last night that 660 local parties have been stopped by the Police.

Should record them being stopped and have a public shaming gallery if you ask me.

Interesting to see what happens over the next 48 hours because you know full well the dickheads will be out again in force to enjoy the weather.

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By *istyblue1967 OP   Man
over a year ago

manchester

there just going to push there luck

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But these idiots are going to make it a lot worse for us all , not only by passing on this virus but maybe tougher longer lockdown

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By *istyblue1967 OP   Man
over a year ago

manchester

they deinatley will !!!!

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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"It was reported on North West news last night that 660 local parties have been stopped by the Police.

Should record them being stopped and have a public shaming gallery if you ask me.

Interesting to see what happens over the next 48 hours because you know full well the dickheads will be out again in force to enjoy the weather. "

I was so shocked when I saw the numbers of gatherings that the Manchester Met have reported as having to break up. There is no justification. They should be punished for wasting police time and putting people at risk. We have been told and we will pay the price. Shameful behaviour.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Manchester has been an example of people just not giving a fuck about others.

Problem is when this is all over it will be forgotten as many are two faced

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"there just going to push there luck"

‘They are’ and ‘their’ !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is Sainsbury's this morning it was madness in the fruit and veg area. People reaching for things over each other, almost climbing over each other. Staff looked on in disbelief.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Manchester has been an example of people just not giving a fuck about others.

Problem is when this is all over it will be forgotten as many are two faced "

I think all major cities have had problems tbh. London the worst from what I've seen.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

When I went to Asda earlier they had pallets of BBQ's and charcoal on special offer.

The amount of trolleys full off lager was quite astounding for 10am on a Friday morning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Manchester has been an example of people just not giving a fuck about others.

Problem is when this is all over it will be forgotten as many are two faced

I think all major cities have had problems tbh. London the worst from what I've seen."

People in general I think

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By *istyblue1967 OP   Man
over a year ago

manchester

bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation"

I totally see your point however the rules don't mention anything about having a BBQ in your garden with family as it doesn't break the rules.

The marketing teams know exactly know how to exploit the public pandemic or not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation"

Vegi ?

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull


"When I went to Asda earlier they had pallets of BBQ's and charcoal on special offer.

The amount of trolleys full off lager was quite astounding for 10am on a Friday morning.

"

Therein lies another potential problem as people over indulge with booze and forget the Rules which then creates tension and possible confrontation with Police etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation"

You want to ban chicken, bangers & burgers?

Bit extreme, no?

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By *istyblue1967 OP   Man
over a year ago

manchester

whats the point of cooking on a fire in your garden when its prob next to the kitchen .

and how many will get food poisioning too lol

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation"
why shouldn't it. It helps improve mood as it's a "normal thing to be doing"..

And people will be in their gardens... I've been today and got stuff for a decent bbq tmw... as I've got a disabled child who has been house bound for weeks and we are going to have a bbq/ karaoke party for her.

Next people will be saying ban all crisps.. chocolate.. beer.. wine etc..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People are expected to break the lockdown and are needed to as well. Those idiots are doing the country a favour. Drip feed the virus at a controllable rate to the population. NHS not hit by huge influxes, greater chance of survival with intensive care beds available. If nobody was out catching and spreading it, it would disappear, of course it would. We’d then be out and about as normal, the vulnerable back out and about too. Then wham, it hits again when we least expect it, still with no vaccines or any natural heard immunity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bloody hell. Some of you make the Taliban look like purveyors of joy. I’m surprised you’ve not called for the banning of Easter!

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Bloody hell. Some of you make the Taliban look like purveyors of joy. I’m surprised you’ve not called for the banning of Easter!

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you took the words right outta my mouth. I have noticed today a big increase in traffic and queues in shops.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

the police are doong nothing. round near me.park right oppisite mine they have padlocked the gates to the carpark so now everyone is parking along the path right outside our frontdoors.when i pointed this out to a copper earlier his answer people are allowed out to excercise.wen i pointed out these people are driving here from elsewhere he just walked off although did let him know my whole block of flats are getting pissed off about it and some are threatening to deal with it hemselves if no one else does

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Public floggings is what we need.

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria

Queues at Asda this morning, a lot of people have been off work for 3 weeks so had plenty of time to get their shopping so I thought it would be quiet being a bank holiday. Have to say though people were good at social distancing even queuing to go up the fruit & veg isle and not over crowd it and there wasn’t a sole in the alcohol isles but the chocolate isle was looking ransacked lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation"

Doesnt apply to me ...but cant families have a BBQ in their garden?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the police are doong nothing. round near me.park right oppisite mine they have padlocked the gates to the carpark so now everyone is parking along the path right outside our frontdoors.when i pointed this out to a copper earlier his answer people are allowed out to excercise.wen i pointed out these people are driving here from elsewhere he just walked off although did let him know my whole block of flats are getting pissed off about it and some are threatening to deal with it hemselves if no one else does"

Are they parked legally? Are they exercising within guidelines? Have they driven only locally?

If yes to those, what’s the drama?

Take the matter into own hands? What does that mean? Vandalise the cars than may well belong to key workers?

You come across as a bit of a busy body...

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

not a busy body toen i live in has several parks so every area is coverd so no one should need to drive to the park .and when i day there parking outside my door i meen literally parking outside my door about 5 ft away and no mist aint excercising there getting a coffee from the cafe then sitting round aving a chat but like i saud the old bill round here aint intrested.and did i say id take rhe law into my own hands? i sqid people in my block abd no wobt be vandalising anything but they will be getting there cars blocked in so plenty of excercuse on there walk home

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

sorry bout the spelling my fone is shite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the police are doong nothing. round near me.park right oppisite mine they have padlocked the gates to the carpark so now everyone is parking along the path right outside our frontdoors.when i pointed this out to a copper earlier his answer people are allowed out to excercise.wen i pointed out these people are driving here from elsewhere he just walked off although did let him know my whole block of flats are getting pissed off about it and some are threatening to deal with it hemselves if no one else does

Are they parked legally? Are they exercising within guidelines? Have they driven only locally?

If yes to those, what’s the drama?

Take the matter into own hands? What does that mean? Vandalise the cars than may well belong to key workers?

You come across as a bit of a busy body..."

Reminds me of the poor Nurse whose car tyres were slashed by locals because she was staying in an airbnb to protect her family.

I am a key worker I now clearly wear my I.D badge when out of my house and have an official letter on my car window now just to stop the local curtain twitching gestapo making me a target!

To the Busy Bodies you CAN NOT KNOW 100% what people's circumstances are!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the police are doong nothing. round near me.park right oppisite mine they have padlocked the gates to the carpark so now everyone is parking along the path right outside our frontdoors.when i pointed this out to a copper earlier his answer people are allowed out to excercise.wen i pointed out these people are driving here from elsewhere he just walked off although did let him know my whole block of flats are getting pissed off about it and some are threatening to deal with it hemselves if no one else does

Are they parked legally? Are they exercising within guidelines? Have they driven only locally?

If yes to those, what’s the drama?

Take the matter into own hands? What does that mean? Vandalise the cars than may well belong to key workers?

You come across as a bit of a busy body...

Reminds me of the poor Nurse whose car tyres were slashed by locals because she was staying in an airbnb to protect her family.

I am a key worker I now clearly wear my I.D badge when out of my house and have an official letter on my car window now just to stop the local curtain twitching gestapo making me a target!

To the Busy Bodies you CAN NOT KNOW 100% what people's circumstances are!! "

I’ve my letter in my car window too after getting shit from people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I went to Asda earlier they had pallets of BBQ's and charcoal on special offer.

The amount of trolleys full off lager was quite astounding for 10am on a Friday morning.

"

To be fair, households can have bbqs without infringing upon the rules.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When I went to Asda earlier they had pallets of BBQ's and charcoal on special offer.

The amount of trolleys full off lager was quite astounding for 10am on a Friday morning.

Was no different I’ve heard in Skeg. We actually had police drones over our garden to make sure people weren’t on the beach.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"the police are doong nothing. round near me.park right oppisite mine they have padlocked the gates to the carpark so now everyone is parking along the path right outside our frontdoors.when i pointed this out to a copper earlier his answer people are allowed out to excercise.wen i pointed out these people are driving here from elsewhere he just walked off although did let him know my whole block of flats are getting pissed off about it and some are threatening to deal with it hemselves if no one else does

Are they parked legally? Are they exercising within guidelines? Have they driven only locally?

If yes to those, what’s the drama?

Take the matter into own hands? What does that mean? Vandalise the cars than may well belong to key workers?

You come across as a bit of a busy body...

Reminds me of the poor Nurse whose car tyres were slashed by locals because she was staying in an airbnb to protect her family.

I am a key worker I now clearly wear my I.D badge when out of my house and have an official letter on my car window now just to stop the local curtain twitching gestapo making me a target!

To the Busy Bodies you CAN NOT KNOW 100% what people's circumstances are!! "

That's awful to hear.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

Doesnt apply to me ...but cant families have a BBQ in their garden?"

We had a bbq tonight, was a nice evening.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

I had a bbq last night, on my own.

I'd spent most of the day in the garden and it felt like the right thing to do.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

I really think some people need to get a grip tbh. This is definately bringing the worst out in some people. Not everything is as it seems, a lady in my area was slammed on FB because she asked if the local garden centre was open today, the FB gestapo descended like vultures to have a go at her for daring to ask. Not one of them asked why. Her reason for asking? She needed to get gas to cook with, so yes it was essential to her and it was the closest place to her home. Just one example.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"whats the point of cooking on a fire in your garden when its prob next to the kitchen .

and how many will get food poisioning too lol "

You can get that from cooking in your oven and not storing food properly as well.

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By *acko9568Man
over a year ago

saltburn

Had 2 local toe rags decided to ignore the rules and go and rob a shop in the village armed with hammer n crowbar. Of course the 2 girls in the shop were overjoyed at that and shaken to the core. Luckily they were caught less than 2 hrs later. They’ll be self isolating for longer than they thought now. RESULT!!!!!

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By *otsonewMan
over a year ago

All over North and Scotland

In Cumbria we have the highest rate of positive tests outside London per population and Cumbria Police are still having to use time and resources stopping cars, breaking up camping trips and warning people. Only yesterday they reported turning a car and Caravan round near Windermere who had come from Devon! People truly are stupid. Why people feel the need to "push the rules" is beyond me. Until we are locked down completely the halfwits and the people who dont think it applies to them will continue to stick 2 fingers up the the rest of us.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

If you think we have dickheads you should see the pics of people leaving Madrid yesterday.

By the coachload (yes on coaches) WTF

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By *ensual -lover69Man
over a year ago

Blackburn


"these idiots that are flauting the lockdown instruction. they should be fined. the money goes to the nhs.

then in 2 weeks time when they need the nhs because they have contracted ....... dont get a bed"

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise. "

Zero thought for anyone else.

So they have an accident and take up a much needed bed in ICU...Get home you selfish tosses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It was reported on North West news last night that 660 local parties have been stopped by the Police.

Should record them being stopped and have a public shaming gallery if you ask me.

Interesting to see what happens over the next 48 hours because you know full well the dickheads will be out again in force to enjoy the weather. "

Yes, lets punish those that feel punished already...excellent logic. Have a rainbow

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"It was reported on North West news last night that 660 local parties have been stopped by the Police.

Should record them being stopped and have a public shaming gallery if you ask me.

Interesting to see what happens over the next 48 hours because you know full well the dickheads will be out again in force to enjoy the weather.

Yes, lets punish those that feel punished already...excellent logic. Have a rainbow "

That feel punished already....we are all in the same boat so why are there suddenly people that are giving themselves an excuse to put all of us in a longer lockdown with their selfish actions.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I really think some people need to get a grip tbh. This is definately bringing the worst out in some people. Not everything is as it seems, a lady in my area was slammed on FB because she asked if the local garden centre was open today, the FB gestapo descended like vultures to have a go at her for daring to ask. Not one of them asked why. Her reason for asking? She needed to get gas to cook with, so yes it was essential to her and it was the closest place to her home. Just one example. "

I agree people getting their little panties in a twist isn’t gonna help anything

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise. "

As a biker I heard exactly the same.

However I do know there are many key workers out there that commute by motorcycle. The roads are fairly clear so the chance to reach the respective limits due to the lack of traffic could be the reason you a hearing it.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Is Sainsbury's this morning it was madness in the fruit and veg area. People reaching for things over each other, almost climbing over each other. Staff looked on in disbelief. "

That's bad staff should be dealing with that, not looking on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise.

As a biker I heard exactly the same.

However I do know there are many key workers out there that commute by motorcycle. The roads are fairly clear so the chance to reach the respective limits due to the lack of traffic could be the reason you a hearing it.

"

Bike seems safer than a car for self isolating, lack of cars will increase the sound projected. And how do you know what they are doing or if it’s essential? Hahah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It was reported on North West news last night that 660 local parties have been stopped by the Police.

Should record them being stopped and have a public shaming gallery if you ask me.

Interesting to see what happens over the next 48 hours because you know full well the dickheads will be out again in force to enjoy the weather.

Yes, lets punish those that feel punished already...excellent logic. Have a rainbow

That feel punished already....we are all in the same boat so why are there suddenly people that are giving themselves an excuse to put all of us in a longer lockdown with their selfish actions."

Because everyone has different coping mechanisms, so surely it's still ok to show empathy and some degree of caring in times of crisis.

Otherwise is it ok, to slash tyres of nurses, self isolating to protect their family?. Rule breaking it seems is the new right of passage for aggression and social regression...excellent

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise.

As a biker I heard exactly the same.

However I do know there are many key workers out there that commute by motorcycle. The roads are fairly clear so the chance to reach the respective limits due to the lack of traffic could be the reason you a hearing it.

Bike seems safer than a car for self isolating, lack of cars will increase the sound projected. And how do you know what they are doing or if it’s essential? Hahah "

Exactly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise.

As a biker I heard exactly the same.

However I do know there are many key workers out there that commute by motorcycle. The roads are fairly clear so the chance to reach the respective limits due to the lack of traffic could be the reason you a hearing it.

Bike seems safer than a car for self isolating, lack of cars will increase the sound projected. And how do you know what they are doing or if it’s essential? Hahah

Exactly. "

Well the four bikes going up the road the other day must have all been off to "key work" together. And must have been some urgent key work, they would have been close to three figures before they'd made it out of the 40.....

And I'm a biker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise.

As a biker I heard exactly the same.

However I do know there are many key workers out there that commute by motorcycle. The roads are fairly clear so the chance to reach the respective limits due to the lack of traffic could be the reason you a hearing it.

Bike seems safer than a car for self isolating, lack of cars will increase the sound projected. And how do you know what they are doing or if it’s essential? Hahah

Exactly.

Well the four bikes going up the road the other day must have all been off to "key work" together. And must have been some urgent key work, they would have been close to three figures before they'd made it out of the 40.....

And I'm a biker "

And you must known this because what ? Your psychic ? You followed them ? And good for them 3 figures is impressive.

Oh and I’m not a biker

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise.

As a biker I heard exactly the same.

However I do know there are many key workers out there that commute by motorcycle. The roads are fairly clear so the chance to reach the respective limits due to the lack of traffic could be the reason you a hearing it.

Bike seems safer than a car for self isolating, lack of cars will increase the sound projected. And how do you know what they are doing or if it’s essential? Hahah

Exactly.

Well the four bikes going up the road the other day must have all been off to "key work" together. And must have been some urgent key work, they would have been close to three figures before they'd made it out of the 40.....

And I'm a biker

And you must known this because what ? Your psychic ? You followed them ? And good for them 3 figures is impressive.

Oh and I’m not a biker "

Clearly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise.

As a biker I heard exactly the same.

However I do know there are many key workers out there that commute by motorcycle. The roads are fairly clear so the chance to reach the respective limits due to the lack of traffic could be the reason you a hearing it.

Bike seems safer than a car for self isolating, lack of cars will increase the sound projected. And how do you know what they are doing or if it’s essential? Hahah

Exactly.

Well the four bikes going up the road the other day must have all been off to "key work" together. And must have been some urgent key work, they would have been close to three figures before they'd made it out of the 40.....

And I'm a biker

And you must known this because what ? Your psychic ? You followed them ? And good for them 3 figures is impressive.

Oh and I’m not a biker

Clearly "

Aye

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Health services should be equal access and not have anyone but Doctors determining the care that patients get.

Police have good powers now and locals will apply social pressure against people who create greater risks for others. Too much shaming will fracture rather than bring people together, which is what is needed.

Take personal responsibility and influence those you know. Perhaps ignore media reports that you have no influence over, if you emotionally react to a great extent. Put your focus on the government. They have much to answer for,as they have caused this mess atm.

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By *ensualguy70TV/TS
over a year ago

paisley

Yes especially the Health Minister up here in Scotland who went against her own regulations she made to control us, oh she didn't fined did she, a simply apology and resigned from her post probably with a good pension too.

This is why I'm sceptical about this whole coronavirus, if they who make the rules go against their rules themselves, well alarm bells should be ringing with people now

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise.

As a biker I heard exactly the same.

However I do know there are many key workers out there that commute by motorcycle. The roads are fairly clear so the chance to reach the respective limits due to the lack of traffic could be the reason you a hearing it.

Bike seems safer than a car for self isolating, lack of cars will increase the sound projected. And how do you know what they are doing or if it’s essential? Hahah

Exactly.

Well the four bikes going up the road the other day must have all been off to "key work" together. And must have been some urgent key work, they would have been close to three figures before they'd made it out of the 40.....

And I'm a biker

And you must known this because what ? Your psychic ? You followed them ? And good for them 3 figures is impressive.

Oh and I’m not a biker "

I have to agree with this. You are making assumptions without knowing all the facts.

Like someone said above people posting on Facebook hounding someone because they were buying gas at a garden centre.

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By *edGrayCouple
over a year ago

Swindon

The stupidity is just not in this country. We have family isolating in Portugal and it was reported on the national news that thousands of Portuguese have gone down to the Algarve for the Easter weekend!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise.

As a biker I heard exactly the same.

However I do know there are many key workers out there that commute by motorcycle. The roads are fairly clear so the chance to reach the respective limits due to the lack of traffic could be the reason you a hearing it.

Bike seems safer than a car for self isolating, lack of cars will increase the sound projected. And how do you know what they are doing or if it’s essential? Hahah

Exactly.

Well the four bikes going up the road the other day must have all been off to "key work" together. And must have been some urgent key work, they would have been close to three figures before they'd made it out of the 40.....

And I'm a biker

And you must known this because what ? Your psychic ? You followed them ? And good for them 3 figures is impressive.

Oh and I’m not a biker

I have to agree with this. You are making assumptions without knowing all the facts.

Like someone said above people posting on Facebook hounding someone because they were buying gas at a garden centre.

"

4 bikes together- fact. W.O.T through the gears from the roundabout out of the town, about 3/4 mile to the end of the 40 limit. another fact.

Hounding someone on Facebook for buying gas at a garden centre this is not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Health services should be equal access and not have anyone but Doctors determining the care that patients get.

Police have good powers now and locals will apply social pressure against people who create greater risks for others. Too much shaming will fracture rather than bring people together, which is what is needed.

Take personal responsibility and influence those you know. Perhaps ignore media reports that you have no influence over, if you emotionally react to a great extent. Put your focus on the government. They have much to answer for,as they have caused this mess atm. "

Why? The govt will be called to account once the crisis has settled.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Covid 19. The virus of the self righteous!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Covid 19. The virus of the self righteous!"

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

The government are asking everyone

stay at home

drink beer

eat and sleep when they want

they will also pay you to do it.

the reward is your life

and some idiots cant even manage that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?"

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Health services should be equal access and not have anyone but Doctors determining the care that patients get.

Police have good powers now and locals will apply social pressure against people who create greater risks for others. Too much shaming will fracture rather than bring people together, which is what is needed.

Take personal responsibility and influence those you know. Perhaps ignore media reports that you have no influence over, if you emotionally react to a great extent. Put your focus on the government. They have much to answer for,as they have caused this mess atm.

Why? The govt will be called to account once the crisis has settled. "

I think only time will tell on that score.

In the past we have seen investigations..what's the phrase kicked into the long grass.

Once this is over there should be completely independent investigation into what we did right and what we did wrong.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?"

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"Bloody hell. Some of you make the Taliban look like purveyors of joy. I’m surprised you’ve not called for the banning of Easter!

"

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bloody hell. Some of you make the Taliban look like purveyors of joy. I’m surprised you’ve not called for the banning of Easter!

"

Hmmm ... Yeah!

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By *arkus1812Man
over a year ago

Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands


"The government are asking everyone

stay at home

drink beer

eat and sleep when they want

they will also pay you to do it.

the reward is your life

and some idiots cant even manage that.

"

So key workers are idiots then?

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Sat in my garden yesterday, and all I could hear was motorbikes hammering down the straight roman road close by.

Wasn't one, it was many. Selfish bikers taking advantage of the quiet roads. Its not essential travel and its not exercise.

As a biker I heard exactly the same.

However I do know there are many key workers out there that commute by motorcycle. The roads are fairly clear so the chance to reach the respective limits due to the lack of traffic could be the reason you a hearing it.

Bike seems safer than a car for self isolating, lack of cars will increase the sound projected. And how do you know what they are doing or if it’s essential? Hahah

Exactly.

Well the four bikes going up the road the other day must have all been off to "key work" together. And must have been some urgent key work, they would have been close to three figures before they'd made it out of the 40.....

And I'm a biker

And you must known this because what ? Your psychic ? You followed them ? And good for them 3 figures is impressive.

Oh and I’m not a biker

I have to agree with this. You are making assumptions without knowing all the facts.

Like someone said above people posting on Facebook hounding someone because they were buying gas at a garden centre.

4 bikes together- fact. W.O.T through the gears from the roundabout out of the town, about 3/4 mile to the end of the 40 limit. another fact.

Hounding someone on Facebook for buying gas at a garden centre this is not "

Did you report them?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Health services should be equal access and not have anyone but Doctors determining the care that patients get.

Police have good powers now and locals will apply social pressure against people who create greater risks for others. Too much shaming will fracture rather than bring people together, which is what is needed.

Take personal responsibility and influence those you know. Perhaps ignore media reports that you have no influence over, if you emotionally react to a great extent. Put your focus on the government. They have much to answer for,as they have caused this mess atm.

Why? The govt will be called to account once the crisis has settled. "

They certainly must be called to account, as you say

In the meantime, we're all going to have much more influence on those that we know, rather than others that we don't. Our neighbours will be influenced by how we live too. That social influence will be helpful, as we all abide by the restrictions.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"Covid 19. The virus of the self righteous!"

Hardly.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation"

So people with kids cannot have a family BBQ in their own garden now, its sunny the kids are bored and something new and fun for them is surely acceptable ?

What is the difference to eating as a family in the garden or in the house as long as your don't have others round.

So glad I do not have kids to entertain, someone will be reporting people for playing with my their kids in my their own gardens next ?

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By *nnie2009Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation"
not if it's just for the people isolating in one household

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By *nnie2009Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool


"The government are asking everyone

stay at home

drink beer

eat and sleep when they want

they will also pay you to do it.

the reward is your life

and some idiots cant even manage that. I can ??

"

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation not if it's just for the people isolating in one household "

However it is if they’re just going shopping to get things for the bbq.

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By *ucky24Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

So people with kids cannot have a family BBQ in their own garden now, its sunny the kids are bored and something new and fun for them is surely acceptable ?

What is the difference to eating as a family in the garden or in the house as long as your don't have others round.

So glad I do not have kids to entertain, someone will be reporting people for playing with my their kids in my their own gardens next ? "

Already happened as was on the news last night. Heavy handed police fined a family for being in the front garden.

I believe they have subsequently apologised to the family.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

So people with kids cannot have a family BBQ in their own garden now, its sunny the kids are bored and something new and fun for them is surely acceptable ?

What is the difference to eating as a family in the garden or in the house as long as your don't have others round.

So glad I do not have kids to entertain, someone will be reporting people for playing with my their kids in my their own gardens next ?

Already happened as was on the news last night. Heavy handed police fined a family for being in the front garden.

I believe they have subsequently apologised to the family."

The police are dealing with hundreds of things, this was one error in judgement by one officer but then suddenly they are all in the wrong. This was a mistake and apologised for. I don’t see any apologies from the numpties that continue to break the rules and put others at risk. Two sides to every story.

A 21 year old police women was bitten a couple of days ago in Rochdale and two other officers thumped. I wonder if that gets the same press.

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By *ucky24Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

So people with kids cannot have a family BBQ in their own garden now, its sunny the kids are bored and something new and fun for them is surely acceptable ?

What is the difference to eating as a family in the garden or in the house as long as your don't have others round.

So glad I do not have kids to entertain, someone will be reporting people for playing with my their kids in my their own gardens next ?

Already happened as was on the news last night. Heavy handed police fined a family for being in the front garden.

I believe they have subsequently apologised to the family.

The police are dealing with hundreds of things, this was one error in judgement by one officer but then suddenly they are all in the wrong. This was a mistake and apologised for. I don’t see any apologies from the numpties that continue to break the rules and put others at risk. Two sides to every story.

A 21 year old police women was bitten a couple of days ago in Rochdale and two other officers thumped. I wonder if that gets the same press. "

Fully aware that the police are dealing with a multitude of different things but that doesn't excuse that incident. We are policed by consent in this country and while the vast majority of police do a fantastic job, one that I don't think I could do it is incumbent on the media to report these types of incidents to ensure our precious civil liberties are not eroded permanently.

Also the other incidents where the police are the victims of abuse should be equally highlighted and the perpetrators brought to account.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

So people with kids cannot have a family BBQ in their own garden now, its sunny the kids are bored and something new and fun for them is surely acceptable ?

What is the difference to eating as a family in the garden or in the house as long as your don't have others round.

So glad I do not have kids to entertain, someone will be reporting people for playing with my their kids in my their own gardens next ?

Already happened as was on the news last night. Heavy handed police fined a family for being in the front garden.

I believe they have subsequently apologised to the family.

The police are dealing with hundreds of things, this was one error in judgement by one officer but then suddenly they are all in the wrong. This was a mistake and apologised for. I don’t see any apologies from the numpties that continue to break the rules and put others at risk. Two sides to every story.

A 21 year old police women was bitten a couple of days ago in Rochdale and two other officers thumped. I wonder if that gets the same press.

Fully aware that the police are dealing with a multitude of different things but that doesn't excuse that incident. We are policed by consent in this country and while the vast majority of police do a fantastic job, one that I don't think I could do it is incumbent on the media to report these types of incidents to ensure our precious civil liberties are not eroded permanently.

Also the other incidents where the police are the victims of abuse should be equally highlighted and the perpetrators brought to account.

"

That’s just Rochdale

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't see the harm at all in having a bar b que today. As long as it's for and your families personal consumption, it keeps you in your garden, I cannot for the life of me understand why this is not acceptable. There are people in my neighbourhood doing it. It is entirely their own business and I will not go round doing this ridiculous vigilantism that seems to go on.

My partner works in Grocery retail. Work, is very stressful at the moment and she quite fancies one herself. I was a bit dubious having read all the crap on here about it but if it gives her a bit of pleasure and relax a bit after a hard days work who is anyone on here to say it is not fair.

I bet loads of NHS workers feel the same too as long as we do not involve anyone else and follow the rules. Sometimes we just need to chill out a bit and forget our troubles.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Having a bbq is perfectly alright, as long it is for the household unit only.

You just can't invite anyone else around.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

So people with kids cannot have a family BBQ in their own garden now, its sunny the kids are bored and something new and fun for them is surely acceptable ?

What is the difference to eating as a family in the garden or in the house as long as your don't have others round.

So glad I do not have kids to entertain, someone will be reporting people for playing with my their kids in my their own gardens next ?

Already happened as was on the news last night. Heavy handed police fined a family for being in the front garden.

I believe they have subsequently apologised to the family.

The police are dealing with hundreds of things, this was one error in judgement by one officer but then suddenly they are all in the wrong. This was a mistake and apologised for. I don’t see any apologies from the numpties that continue to break the rules and put others at risk. Two sides to every story.

A 21 year old police women was bitten a couple of days ago in Rochdale and two other officers thumped. I wonder if that gets the same press.

Fully aware that the police are dealing with a multitude of different things but that doesn't excuse that incident. We are policed by consent in this country and while the vast majority of police do a fantastic job, one that I don't think I could do it is incumbent on the media to report these types of incidents to ensure our precious civil liberties are not eroded permanently.

Also the other incidents where the police are the victims of abuse should be equally highlighted and the perpetrators brought to account.

"

I don’t believe anyone’s civil liberties are being infringed. We are trying to save lives.

Police abuse won’t get the same coverage in my opinion. We are looking for the government to do the wrong thing and the police. All as though we never make mistakes ourselves

The rules are in place for a reason and the police wouldn’t need to be out there if people didn’t break the rules. It’s that simple really.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having a bbq is perfectly alright, as long it is for the household unit only.

You just can't invite anyone else around. "

Don't worry I will not be inviting anyone else round. It will be just Mrs N and me.

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By *ucky24Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

So people with kids cannot have a family BBQ in their own garden now, its sunny the kids are bored and something new and fun for them is surely acceptable ?

What is the difference to eating as a family in the garden or in the house as long as your don't have others round.

So glad I do not have kids to entertain, someone will be reporting people for playing with my their kids in my their own gardens next ?

Already happened as was on the news last night. Heavy handed police fined a family for being in the front garden.

I believe they have subsequently apologised to the family.

The police are dealing with hundreds of things, this was one error in judgement by one officer but then suddenly they are all in the wrong. This was a mistake and apologised for. I don’t see any apologies from the numpties that continue to break the rules and put others at risk. Two sides to every story.

A 21 year old police women was bitten a couple of days ago in Rochdale and two other officers thumped. I wonder if that gets the same press.

Fully aware that the police are dealing with a multitude of different things but that doesn't excuse that incident. We are policed by consent in this country and while the vast majority of police do a fantastic job, one that I don't think I could do it is incumbent on the media to report these types of incidents to ensure our precious civil liberties are not eroded permanently.

Also the other incidents where the police are the victims of abuse should be equally highlighted and the perpetrators brought to account.

I don’t believe anyone’s civil liberties are being infringed. We are trying to save lives.

Police abuse won’t get the same coverage in my opinion. We are looking for the government to do the wrong thing and the police. All as though we never make mistakes ourselves

The rules are in place for a reason and the police wouldn’t need to be out there if people didn’t break the rules. It’s that simple really. "

Of course civil liberties are constantly trying to be eroded by governments of all political persuasions. Government want a compliant population.

I am fully aware of rules that is why I'm over 200 miles away from my family and friends and haven't seen then in person for 3 weeks.

Out of a population of 67 million people the vast majority of people are sticking to the rules. There will always be idiots that don't and that is why we have the police.

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

So people with kids cannot have a family BBQ in their own garden now, its sunny the kids are bored and something new and fun for them is surely acceptable ?

What is the difference to eating as a family in the garden or in the house as long as your don't have others round.

So glad I do not have kids to entertain, someone will be reporting people for playing with my their kids in my their own gardens next ?

Already happened as was on the news last night. Heavy handed police fined a family for being in the front garden.

I believe they have subsequently apologised to the family.

The police are dealing with hundreds of things, this was one error in judgement by one officer but then suddenly they are all in the wrong. This was a mistake and apologised for. I don’t see any apologies from the numpties that continue to break the rules and put others at risk. Two sides to every story.

A 21 year old police women was bitten a couple of days ago in Rochdale and two other officers thumped. I wonder if that gets the same press.

Fully aware that the police are dealing with a multitude of different things but that doesn't excuse that incident. We are policed by consent in this country and while the vast majority of police do a fantastic job, one that I don't think I could do it is incumbent on the media to report these types of incidents to ensure our precious civil liberties are not eroded permanently.

Also the other incidents where the police are the victims of abuse should be equally highlighted and the perpetrators brought to account.

I don’t believe anyone’s civil liberties are being infringed. We are trying to save lives.

Police abuse won’t get the same coverage in my opinion. We are looking for the government to do the wrong thing and the police. All as though we never make mistakes ourselves

The rules are in place for a reason and the police wouldn’t need to be out there if people didn’t break the rules. It’s that simple really.

Of course civil liberties are constantly trying to be eroded by governments of all political persuasions. Government want a compliant population.

I am fully aware of rules that is why I'm over 200 miles away from my family and friends and haven't seen then in person for 3 weeks.

Out of a population of 67 million people the vast majority of people are sticking to the rules. There will always be idiots that don't and that is why we have the police.

"

Asking people to stay home because of a deadly virus does not affect your civil liberties - it’s a temporary measure to a serious situation and that is all.

My point was that we shouldn’t need the police to be doing this. I’m well aware the majority are in. It’s the minority we are discussing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Public floggings is what we need. "

So instead of the taliban are you the "trannieban" then?

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By *ucky24Man
over a year ago

Glasgow


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

So people with kids cannot have a family BBQ in their own garden now, its sunny the kids are bored and something new and fun for them is surely acceptable ?

What is the difference to eating as a family in the garden or in the house as long as your don't have others round.

So glad I do not have kids to entertain, someone will be reporting people for playing with my their kids in my their own gardens next ?

Already happened as was on the news last night. Heavy handed police fined a family for being in the front garden.

I believe they have subsequently apologised to the family.

The police are dealing with hundreds of things, this was one error in judgement by one officer but then suddenly they are all in the wrong. This was a mistake and apologised for. I don’t see any apologies from the numpties that continue to break the rules and put others at risk. Two sides to every story.

A 21 year old police women was bitten a couple of days ago in Rochdale and two other officers thumped. I wonder if that gets the same press.

Fully aware that the police are dealing with a multitude of different things but that doesn't excuse that incident. We are policed by consent in this country and while the vast majority of police do a fantastic job, one that I don't think I could do it is incumbent on the media to report these types of incidents to ensure our precious civil liberties are not eroded permanently.

Also the other incidents where the police are the victims of abuse should be equally highlighted and the perpetrators brought to account.

I don’t believe anyone’s civil liberties are being infringed. We are trying to save lives.

Police abuse won’t get the same coverage in my opinion. We are looking for the government to do the wrong thing and the police. All as though we never make mistakes ourselves

The rules are in place for a reason and the police wouldn’t need to be out there if people didn’t break the rules. It’s that simple really.

Of course civil liberties are constantly trying to be eroded by governments of all political persuasions. Government want a compliant population.

I am fully aware of rules that is why I'm over 200 miles away from my family and friends and haven't seen then in person for 3 weeks.

Out of a population of 67 million people the vast majority of people are sticking to the rules. There will always be idiots that don't and that is why we have the police.

Asking people to stay home because of a deadly virus does not affect your civil liberties - it’s a temporary measure to a serious situation and that is all.

My point was that we shouldn’t need the police to be doing this. I’m well aware the majority are in. It’s the minority we are discussing. "

I didn't say staying at home affected my civil liberties I am doing my civil and moral duty in staying home and not travelling to see my family.

The initial response to the earlier person was about media reporting on police incidents of heavy handiness.

The minority will always need policing. For example. There are speed limits but people break them sometimes excessively are you suggesting we do away with motorway cops, simply because everyone knows the speed limit??

There are people of all walks and persuasions that believe the rules don't apply to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our neighbours are in and out like Yo-Yos, also have friends and family visiting all the time, pisses us off.

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By *eedsbiguyMan
over a year ago

ls4

Report them to the police.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Our neighbours are in and out like Yo-Yos, also have friends and family visiting all the time, pisses us off. "

Did you do anything ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No we're keeping the peace, we have to live next to em. They had the cheek to knock on our door to say our TV is too loud one night, real nobs.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"the police are doong nothing. round near me.park right oppisite mine they have padlocked the gates to the carpark so now everyone is parking along the path right outside our frontdoors.when i pointed this out to a copper earlier his answer people are allowed out to excercise.wen i pointed out these people are driving here from elsewhere he just walked off although did let him know my whole block of flats are getting pissed off about it and some are threatening to deal with it hemselves if no one else does

Are they parked legally? Are they exercising within guidelines? Have they driven only locally?

If yes to those, what’s the drama?

Take the matter into own hands? What does that mean? Vandalise the cars than may well belong to key workers?

You come across as a bit of a busy body..."

Surly the easy solution is for whoever misguidedly padlocked the carpark to unpadlock it. People are still allowed to go to the park and they are still allowed to go there by car if they choose.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us."

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester


"Our neighbours are in and out like Yo-Yos, also have friends and family visiting all the time, pisses us off. "

With you there.

Maybe they are immune....NOT

Dickheads!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

So people with kids cannot have a family BBQ in their own garden now, its sunny the kids are bored and something new and fun for them is surely acceptable ?

What is the difference to eating as a family in the garden or in the house as long as your don't have others round.

So glad I do not have kids to entertain, someone will be reporting people for playing with my their kids in my their own gardens next ?

Already happened as was on the news last night. Heavy handed police fined a family for being in the front garden.

I believe they have subsequently apologised to the family.

The police are dealing with hundreds of things, this was one error in judgement by one officer but then suddenly they are all in the wrong. This was a mistake and apologised for. I don’t see any apologies from the numpties that continue to break the rules and put others at risk. Two sides to every story.

A 21 year old police women was bitten a couple of days ago in Rochdale and two other officers thumped. I wonder if that gets the same press.

Fully aware that the police are dealing with a multitude of different things but that doesn't excuse that incident. We are policed by consent in this country and while the vast majority of police do a fantastic job, one that I don't think I could do it is incumbent on the media to report these types of incidents to ensure our precious civil liberties are not eroded permanently.

Also the other incidents where the police are the victims of abuse should be equally highlighted and the perpetrators brought to account.

I don’t believe anyone’s civil liberties are being infringed. We are trying to save lives.

Police abuse won’t get the same coverage in my opinion. We are looking for the government to do the wrong thing and the police. All as though we never make mistakes ourselves

The rules are in place for a reason and the police wouldn’t need to be out there if people didn’t break the rules. It’s that simple really. "

Of course people's civil liberties are being effected. The only question is whether, in the circumstances, it's the right thing to do or not. IMHO on balance it probably is the right thing to do but where the police have gone to far, such as stopping people from having BBQs in their own garden, the police need to told that that is not acceptable now within the law.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

"
,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too."

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

bristol


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation"

For what reason? A bbq doesn't mean you're having a gathering,it could just be a family that lives in the same house. It's not like people are out at the park with their bbqs

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"bbq stuff should not be sold .

full stop.

they are helping this stupid situation

So people with kids cannot have a family BBQ in their own garden now, its sunny the kids are bored and something new and fun for them is surely acceptable ?

What is the difference to eating as a family in the garden or in the house as long as your don't have others round.

So glad I do not have kids to entertain, someone will be reporting people for playing with my their kids in my their own gardens next ?

Already happened as was on the news last night. Heavy handed police fined a family for being in the front garden.

I believe they have subsequently apologised to the family.

The police are dealing with hundreds of things, this was one error in judgement by one officer but then suddenly they are all in the wrong. This was a mistake and apologised for. I don’t see any apologies from the numpties that continue to break the rules and put others at risk. Two sides to every story.

A 21 year old police women was bitten a couple of days ago in Rochdale and two other officers thumped. I wonder if that gets the same press.

Fully aware that the police are dealing with a multitude of different things but that doesn't excuse that incident. We are policed by consent in this country and while the vast majority of police do a fantastic job, one that I don't think I could do it is incumbent on the media to report these types of incidents to ensure our precious civil liberties are not eroded permanently.

Also the other incidents where the police are the victims of abuse should be equally highlighted and the perpetrators brought to account.

I don’t believe anyone’s civil liberties are being infringed. We are trying to save lives.

Police abuse won’t get the same coverage in my opinion. We are looking for the government to do the wrong thing and the police. All as though we never make mistakes ourselves

The rules are in place for a reason and the police wouldn’t need to be out there if people didn’t break the rules. It’s that simple really.

Of course people's civil liberties are being effected. The only question is whether, in the circumstances, it's the right thing to do or not. IMHO on balance it probably is the right thing to do but where the police have gone to far, such as stopping people from having BBQs in their own garden, the police need to told that that is not acceptable now within the law.

"

Your civil liberties are not really affected though are they? You are being asked to stay in to protect lives temporarily. Quoting civil liberties is a reason some people feel it’s acceptable to do their own thing in these troubling times. It’s a good job we don’t all do it.

And there we go again quoting a thing that the police got wrong - and apologised for, without balancing it with things regarding people breaking the rules. A police officer bitten by a person breaking the rules, abuse they have receive constantly from people breaking the rules. Those types don’t apologise and they aren’t asked to either. It appears easier and more acceptable to attack the people doing the right thing.

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By *inkykat dirtydogCouple
over a year ago

Cov

It's really not hard. You are being asked to stay at home with everything you need and that way you will be a lot safer from contracting the virus, and even less chance of you spreading it.

Some people really find it hard to understand, it's not like we are being locked up in some far flung prison all day.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"It's really not hard. You are being asked to stay at home with everything you need and that way you will be a lot safer from contracting the virus, and even less chance of you spreading it.

Some people really find it hard to understand, it's not like we are being locked up in some far flung prison all day. "

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By *ucker4you500Man
over a year ago

Stockport

Spanking is a much better option especially if in public.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

"

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville


"Spanking is a much better option especially if in public. "

Surely that's going to encourage bad behaviour...

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties"

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

"

Rules are rules, not mine, I hasten to add..I suppose tell the families of the almost 10,000 people, that have died, that it is ok to flout the rules, everyone is allowed to take a walk, why isn't that enough?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Now over 10,000...

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

..


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

"

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it. "
,

I doubt those who flout the rules and those that condone it,give a toss Babs, about our doctor's or nurses, 19 of whom have lost their lives, looking after their patients. It's a kind of 'it won't happen to me' mentality, so let's go sit in a park.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it. "

Short amount of time? Say that again when, in three months time, they tell us they might relax the rules soon. There is no exit strategy. Even if we get down to 100 infections it just puts us back to where we were a few weeks ago.

The people banning sunbathing are the ones with lovely large gardens. Let's stop everyone using their gardens and see how long the rules hold then.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it.

Short amount of time? Say that again when, in three months time, they tell us they might relax the rules soon. There is no exit strategy. Even if we get down to 100 infections it just puts us back to where we were a few weeks ago.

The people banning sunbathing are the ones with lovely large gardens. Let's stop everyone using their gardens and see how long the rules hold then."

Nobody is stopping them walking out though,is it necessary to get a suntan?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Btw, it's the government banning sunbathing, picknicking and building sandcastles . Some of us are trying to follow these rules to avoid deaths. The 3 week lockdown is having a positive effect on overall hospital admissions, if we all do our bit, hopefully it can be reduced even more.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"

Nobody is stopping them walking out though,is it necessary to get a suntan?"

Absolutely, vitamin d is essential for your immune system

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"There is no exit strategy. "

Any exit strategy is dependant on knowing exactly where you are and how to mitigate any associated risks.

I'd be more worried if we actually had an exit strategy at this point.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"

Nobody is stopping them walking out though,is it necessary to get a suntan?

Absolutely, vitamin d is essential for your immune system"

Exactly, it is good to get out and walk, rather than just sitting in the garden if you have one, the exercise is good

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"

Nobody is stopping them walking out though,is it necessary to get a suntan?

Absolutely, vitamin d is essential for your immune system

Exactly, it is good to get out and walk, rather than just sitting in the garden if you have one, the exercise is good "

We had a beautiful walk to the reservoir near us this morning 7 miles and hardly a person in sight. Glorious sunshine all the way.

It doesn't all have to be doom and gloom, life is what you make it.

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"

Nobody is stopping them walking out though,is it necessary to get a suntan?

Absolutely, vitamin d is essential for your immune system

Exactly, it is good to get out and walk, rather than just sitting in the garden if you have one, the exercise is good

We had a beautiful walk to the reservoir near us this morning 7 miles and hardly a person in sight. Glorious sunshine all the way.

It doesn't all have to be doom and gloom, life is what you make it."

Exactly. 35 mile bike ride into central London, around and out again. The roads were very quiet, everyone staying 2m apart. Beautiful day.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"

Nobody is stopping them walking out though,is it necessary to get a suntan?

Absolutely, vitamin d is essential for your immune system

Exactly, it is good to get out and walk, rather than just sitting in the garden if you have one, the exercise is good

We had a beautiful walk to the reservoir near us this morning 7 miles and hardly a person in sight. Glorious sunshine all the way.

It doesn't all have to be doom and gloom, life is what you make it."

Quite right. We like to walk too and feel much better for it and it is much better than sitting around unless it's on a beach in GC

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By *hadow KingsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham

You can't leave people caged up with nothing to so because that will lead to civil disobedience.

I go on a daily walk or cycle every day. Before any of you call be stupid. Fuck off, got bad asthma. Staying on doing nothing makes my breathing worth and I'm already in the higher percentage for the Kung Flu.

What's so bad about doing a BBQ in your own home. I really don't like this open advocation for authoritism into what people do privatly. Yes I know situation but I also know when you give the government too much power.

You have to fight to get them back.

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By *hadow KingsCouple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham


"You can't leave people caged up with nothing to so because that will lead to civil disobedience.

I go on a daily walk or cycle every day. Before any of you call be stupid. Fuck off, got bad asthma. Staying on doing nothing makes my breathing worth and I'm already in the higher percentage for the Kung Flu.

What's so bad about doing a BBQ in your own home. I really don't like this open advocation for authoritism into what people do privatly. Yes I know situation but I also know when you give the government too much power.

You have to fight to get them back."

And I'm a key work and I think they're being too heavy handed.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"You can't leave people caged up with nothing to so because that will lead to civil disobedience.

I go on a daily walk or cycle every day. Before any of you call be stupid. Fuck off, got bad asthma. Staying on doing nothing makes my breathing worth and I'm already in the higher percentage for the Kung Flu.

What's so bad about doing a BBQ in your own home. I really don't like this open advocation for authoritism into what people do privatly. Yes I know situation but I also know when you give the government too much power.

You have to fight to get them back."

It's good to go on a daily walk or cycle, that is encouraged

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it. ,

I doubt those who flout the rules and those that condone it,give a toss Babs, about our doctor's or nurses, 19 of whom have lost their lives, looking after their patients. It's a kind of 'it won't happen to me' mentality, so let's go sit in a park."

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it. ,

I doubt those who flout the rules and those that condone it,give a toss Babs, about our doctor's or nurses, 19 of whom have lost their lives, looking after their patients. It's a kind of 'it won't happen to me' mentality, so let's go sit in a park."

Then you doubt wrong. It's because I do care that I want the social distancing to be enforced in a way that is sustainable for as long as it's necessary. That will only be possible if it is enforced with common sense and due regard for the actual living circumstances of all.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

"

I totally agree with this. I think that some of the measures are way to strict. And yes if people were keeping distance enjoying the sun away from others would help increase their immune system. It's why this weekend we have seen so many people breaking the rules because simply after 3 weeks people that are isolated are struggling.

It's not healthy and many mental health organisations are worried that the risk from the isolation is a bigger risk than the virus itself.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it.

Short amount of time? Say that again when, in three months time, they tell us they might relax the rules soon. There is no exit strategy. Even if we get down to 100 infections it just puts us back to where we were a few weeks ago.

The people banning sunbathing are the ones with lovely large gardens. Let's stop everyone using their gardens and see how long the rules hold then.

Nobody is stopping them walking out though,is it necessary to get a suntan?"

And think the more pertinent questions is, is it necessary to stop them getting a tan if they want one? And, as long as they maintain 2 meter distance, how does stopping them actually help?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Btw, it's the government banning sunbathing, picknicking and building sandcastles . Some of us are trying to follow these rules to avoid deaths. The 3 week lockdown is having a positive effect on overall hospital admissions, if we all do our bit, hopefully it can be reduced even more."

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

One of the thinks the law does specifically say is that people are allowed out for health reasons, and those health reasons do include mental health.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it. ,

I doubt those who flout the rules and those that condone it,give a toss Babs, about our doctor's or nurses, 19 of whom have lost their lives, looking after their patients. It's a kind of 'it won't happen to me' mentality, so let's go sit in a park.

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

"

Let's just all go out and sunbathe in the park, as your doctor friends would agree and ignore any other advise were getting.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

"

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

I totally agree with this. I think that some of the measures are way to strict. And yes if people were keeping distance enjoying the sun away from others would help increase their immune system. It's why this weekend we have seen so many people breaking the rules because simply after 3 weeks people that are isolated are struggling.

It's not healthy and many mental health organisations are worried that the risk from the isolation is a bigger risk than the virus itself. "

The problem is they are not enjoying the sun away from others, if they were, it wouldn't be so much of a problem

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Btw, it's the government banning sunbathing, picknicking and building sandcastles . Some of us are trying to follow these rules to avoid deaths. The 3 week lockdown is having a positive effect on overall hospital admissions, if we all do our bit, hopefully it can be reduced even more.

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

One of the thinks the law does specifically say is that people are allowed out for health reasons, and those health reasons do include mental health.

"

I think it said exercise once a day, but I'm sure you are right.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

I totally agree with this. I think that some of the measures are way to strict. And yes if people were keeping distance enjoying the sun away from others would help increase their immune system. It's why this weekend we have seen so many people breaking the rules because simply after 3 weeks people that are isolated are struggling.

It's not healthy and many mental health organisations are worried that the risk from the isolation is a bigger risk than the virus itself.

The problem is they are not enjoying the sun away from others, if they were, it wouldn't be so much of a problem"
I know people that were alone and still got grief... keeping the public in is going to cause many more issues x

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it. ,

I doubt those who flout the rules and those that condone it,give a toss Babs, about our doctor's or nurses, 19 of whom have lost their lives, looking after their patients. It's a kind of 'it won't happen to me' mentality, so let's go sit in a park.

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

Let's just all go out and sunbathe in the park, as your doctor friends would agree and ignore any other advise were getting."

Well if you want to I won't try and stop you but personally I'll stick to sunbathing in my own garden. But if I didn't have a garden of my own and wanted to sunbathe in the park on a hot day why would you want to stop me?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

"

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it. ,

I doubt those who flout the rules and those that condone it,give a toss Babs, about our doctor's or nurses, 19 of whom have lost their lives, looking after their patients. It's a kind of 'it won't happen to me' mentality, so let's go sit in a park.

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

Let's just all go out and sunbathe in the park, as your doctor friends would agree and ignore any other advise were getting.

Well if you want to I won't try and stop you but personally I'll stick to sunbathing in my own garden. But if I didn't have a garden of my own and wanted to sunbathe in the park on a hot day why would you want to stop me?

"
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You go where you like. So are you saying we all ignore the guidelines and why are all the medics on the news programs and daily updates asking us not to lay about in parks but to take daily exercise and keep moving?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

"

I think they were under the impression that people would use their common sense and it's a real shame that so many people seem unable to use their common sense and realise that it is totally unsustainable to keep people locked up indefinitely, not even allowing them out to sunbathe on a hot day in their local park.

But they did list specific things you are allowed to do and one of those was to leave your home for health and safety reasons. Health and safety also includes mental health.

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By *mcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Warrington


"these idiots that are flauting the lockdown instruction. they should be fined. the money goes to the nhs.

then in 2 weeks time when they need the nhs because they have contracted ....... dont get a bed"
how do fines go to the NHS ?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

I totally agree with this. I think that some of the measures are way to strict. And yes if people were keeping distance enjoying the sun away from others would help increase their immune system. It's why this weekend we have seen so many people breaking the rules because simply after 3 weeks people that are isolated are struggling.

It's not healthy and many mental health organisations are worried that the risk from the isolation is a bigger risk than the virus itself.

The problem is they are not enjoying the sun away from others, if they were, it wouldn't be so much of a problem I know people that were alone and still got grief... keeping the public in is going to cause many more issues x"

The rules have been made by government, if people want to break them, that's their choice.

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By *mcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Warrington

Any business that is allowed to stay open can sell any stock they have .

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Btw, it's the government banning sunbathing, picknicking and building sandcastles . Some of us are trying to follow these rules to avoid deaths. The 3 week lockdown is having a positive effect on overall hospital admissions, if we all do our bit, hopefully it can be reduced even more.

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

One of the thinks the law does specifically say is that people are allowed out for health reasons, and those health reasons do include mental health.

I think it said exercise once a day, but I'm sure you are right. "

The advice, which is more about letting people know what they are definitely allowed to do and what they should try to do, says you can go out to exercise and you should limit that to once a day. The law says you are allowed out for health and safety reasons and puts no limits on how often.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

I totally agree with this. I think that some of the measures are way to strict. And yes if people were keeping distance enjoying the sun away from others would help increase their immune system. It's why this weekend we have seen so many people breaking the rules because simply after 3 weeks people that are isolated are struggling.

It's not healthy and many mental health organisations are worried that the risk from the isolation is a bigger risk than the virus itself.

The problem is they are not enjoying the sun away from others, if they were, it wouldn't be so much of a problem"

I think most who go to sunbathe would be at least two meters apart. Even in normal times I've never seen a park so full of sunbathers that they were not able to keep 2 meters apart from others not in the same family group.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws."

A bit like drink drivers, it wouldnt be so bad if those flouting it were the only ones impacted, but they aren't.

It's the innocent bystanders.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Btw, it's the government banning sunbathing, picknicking and building sandcastles . Some of us are trying to follow these rules to avoid deaths. The 3 week lockdown is having a positive effect on overall hospital admissions, if we all do our bit, hopefully it can be reduced even more.

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

One of the thinks the law does specifically say is that people are allowed out for health reasons, and those health reasons do include mental health.

I think it said exercise once a day, but I'm sure you are right.

The advice, which is more about letting people know what they are definitely allowed to do and what they should try to do, says you can go out to exercise and you should limit that to once a day. The law says you are allowed out for health and safety reasons and puts no limits on how often.

"

So do we follow medical advice that will save lives or the law which says go when and how often you want. Not everyone follows the 2 metre rule, so if people want to take the risk, go for it.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws.

A bit like drink drivers, it wouldnt be so bad if those flouting it were the only ones impacted, but they aren't.

It's the innocent bystanders. "

Yep, think we're on a losing battle here, as long as they're not taking my ventilator, should I need it

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws."

But that's the point, they're not flouting the law because there is no law which says they're not allowed to go to the park to sunbathe. There does however seem to be an awful lot of people who seem to be putting more effort into trying to impose draconian laws that don't actually exist on others less fortunate than themselves rather than just simply doing their own best themselves to do the best they can to avoid social contact.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws.

But that's the point, they're not flouting the law because there is no law which says they're not allowed to go to the park to sunbathe. There does however seem to be an awful lot of people who seem to be putting more effort into trying to impose draconian laws that don't actually exist on others less fortunate than themselves rather than just simply doing their own best themselves to do the best they can to avoid social contact.

"
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Why are the police moving them on then, can people refuse to move and then what happens to them?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it. ,

I doubt those who flout the rules and those that condone it,give a toss Babs, about our doctor's or nurses, 19 of whom have lost their lives, looking after their patients. It's a kind of 'it won't happen to me' mentality, so let's go sit in a park.

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

Let's just all go out and sunbathe in the park, as your doctor friends would agree and ignore any other advise were getting.

Well if you want to I won't try and stop you but personally I'll stick to sunbathing in my own garden. But if I didn't have a garden of my own and wanted to sunbathe in the park on a hot day why would you want to stop me?

,

You go where you like. So are you saying we all ignore the guidelines and why are all the medics on the news programs and daily updates asking us not to lay about in parks but to take daily exercise and keep moving?

"

No, I'm saying we should follow the government advice because the government advice is that both those following the rules and those enforcing the rules should USE THEIR COMMON SENSE.

I haven't heard any medic say that people shouldn't "lay about' maybe you have. I think the general advice is that people should stay at home but that people should use their common sense. Common sense tells me that for people who don't have the luxury of their own personal outdoor space, it's not unreasonable to let them use public parks.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

I'm assuming I can ignore the police if I'm sitting on a park bench, If they ask me to move, or laying on the grass or playing ball with my grandchildren in the park?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it. ,

I doubt those who flout the rules and those that condone it,give a toss Babs, about our doctor's or nurses, 19 of whom have lost their lives, looking after their patients. It's a kind of 'it won't happen to me' mentality, so let's go sit in a park.

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

Let's just all go out and sunbathe in the park, as your doctor friends would agree and ignore any other advise were getting.

Well if you want to I won't try and stop you but personally I'll stick to sunbathing in my own garden. But if I didn't have a garden of my own and wanted to sunbathe in the park on a hot day why would you want to stop me?

,

You go where you like. So are you saying we all ignore the guidelines and why are all the medics on the news programs and daily updates asking us not to lay about in parks but to take daily exercise and keep moving?

No, I'm saying we should follow the government advice because the government advice is that both those following the rules and those enforcing the rules should USE THEIR COMMON SENSE.

I haven't heard any medic say that people shouldn't "lay about' maybe you have. I think the general advice is that people should stay at home but that people should use their common sense. Common sense tells me that for people who don't have the luxury of their own personal outdoor space, it's not unreasonable to let them use public parks. "

For walking...

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws.

A bit like drink drivers, it wouldnt be so bad if those flouting it were the only ones impacted, but they aren't.

It's the innocent bystanders. "

If anyone was bystanding near the people who are sunbathing surly they are just as innocent or guilty as those doing the sunbathing. The bystanders have no more or less right to bystand than the sunbathers have to sunbathe. The analogy simply doesn't apply in this case.

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By *mcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Warrington


"

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws.

But that's the point, they're not flouting the law because there is no law which says they're not allowed to go to the park to sunbathe. There does however seem to be an awful lot of people who seem to be putting more effort into trying to impose draconian laws that don't actually exist on others less fortunate than themselves rather than just simply doing their own best themselves to do the best they can to avoid social contact.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Can I ask what is the objective of all these threads started with such negativity ?

Is it to get the lockdown lifted or made more draconian. I'm curious ?

Is it to highlight government ineptitude ?

If so why. Surely all it's doing in reality is weakening peoples resolve to stay in. Perhaps that is the purpose so that they can say " well I told you so" , after. I dunno. I just all seems so fucking pointless. And I mean everything.

Is it to wind people up into a state of frenzy ?

No I don't think it's to wind people up. It's frustrated people expressing opinions about idiots that are making it more difficult and dangerous for the rest of us.

I honestly don't think they're making it more dangerous for me but then, rather than looking to find fault in what others are doing, I'm just sticking rigorously to the social distancing rules myself. Those that aren't maybe a danger to others that aren't also but to those that are they are of no significant concern at all.

The best thing any of use can do is follow the rules as best we can ourselves and not try to second guess what others are doing or why.

,

The more people move about and sit in parks and sunbathe, the more this virus will spread and overload nhs staff, some of whom are dieing.If we become Ill with the virus, or something totally unrelated and need hospital treatment, we are in danger of dieing too.

Well there is always the edge cases that you can use to defend criticising others actions rather than concentrating on your own. However the long and short of it is is that if you want to be safe the best thing for you to do is follow the rules yourself and not waist your time and effort worrying about whether other people are or aren't. You have no idea whether other people you see have a more or less legitimate reason for being out than yourself. Just do the right thing yourself and you'll be doing your bit to save lives.

I am not worrying about it I am passing an opinion, about non essential travel and sunbathing in parks. I have no choice going out, I'm a carer.There is no legitimate reason for sunbathing and having parties

As long as they remain at least 2 meters apart I see no problem with people sunbathing anywhere. It doesn't increase my risk, I doubt it increases your risk and it probably doesn't increase their risk significantly. I appreciate that, as a carer, you are taking a personal risk to help others but I don't think you fully understand how difficult it is for those of us who have had no personal contact with anyone now for over 3 weeks. And I'm quite lucky. I have a nice house with a reasonable garden. I can imagine this "social distancing" is even more difficult both mentally and physically if you're living in a small bedsit somewhere with nowhere to go out except to the local park. If we want this "social distancing" to work then the rules have to be applied with a lot of common sense and some regard to people's actual living circumstances. If that means letting some people who have nowhere else to go sunbathe in the park on a hot day I can live with that.

It is a small sacrifice for a short amount of time. Just think of the doctors and nurses that can’t go and sit in a park with their families. I wonder what they think when they are on their way to work when they see it. ,

I doubt those who flout the rules and those that condone it,give a toss Babs, about our doctor's or nurses, 19 of whom have lost their lives, looking after their patients. It's a kind of 'it won't happen to me' mentality, so let's go sit in a park.

Well the doctors I know, and I know quite a few, would probably say that the additional risk to those doing the sunbathing was minimal and that the additional risk to others was none existent. I also think that many, especially those that practice more in the area of mental health, would probably say that confining people to total isolation in a small bedsit for any length of time and not allowing them out even to the park to sunbathe on a hot day was dangerous to the mental and physical health of those being forced to endure that level of isolation and, as such, unsustainable. There is a reason why solitary confinement is considered a punishment and why the United Nations says that more than 15 days solitary confinement amounts to torture.

Let's just all go out and sunbathe in the park, as your doctor friends would agree and ignore any other advise were getting.

Well if you want to I won't try and stop you but personally I'll stick to sunbathing in my own garden. But if I didn't have a garden of my own and wanted to sunbathe in the park on a hot day why would you want to stop me?

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You go where you like. So are you saying we all ignore the guidelines and why are all the medics on the news programs and daily updates asking us not to lay about in parks but to take daily exercise and keep moving?

No, I'm saying we should follow the government advice because the government advice is that both those following the rules and those enforcing the rules should USE THEIR COMMON SENSE.

I haven't heard any medic say that people shouldn't "lay about' maybe you have. I think the general advice is that people should stay at home but that people should use their common sense. Common sense tells me that for people who don't have the luxury of their own personal outdoor space, it's not unreasonable to let them use public parks.

For walking..."

Or sunbathing if they want too.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


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I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws.

But that's the point, they're not flouting the law because there is no law which says they're not allowed to go to the park to sunbathe. There does however seem to be an awful lot of people who seem to be putting more effort into trying to impose draconian laws that don't actually exist on others less fortunate than themselves rather than just simply doing their own best themselves to do the best they can to avoid social contact.

"

I'll ask again,if it is not law can we ignore the police if we are crashed out in the park, or Sat on a bench and they tell us to move, what would you do?

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By *ornytaff8Man
over a year ago

ammanford

I think the punishment should be test them and if not symptomatic put them to help in the hospitals or deliver meals to those in the community. Give them the right equipment let them see exactly what this virus is doing

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws.

But that's the point, they're not flouting the law because there is no law which says they're not allowed to go to the park to sunbathe. There does however seem to be an awful lot of people who seem to be putting more effort into trying to impose draconian laws that don't actually exist on others less fortunate than themselves rather than just simply doing their own best themselves to do the best they can to avoid social contact.

I'll ask again,if it is not law can we ignore the police if we are crashed out in the park, or Sat on a bench and they tell us to move, what would you do?"

It's never a good idea to argue with the police even when you know you're right. I would point out to the officer that I was not breaking any law but if they insisted I would comply but lodge an official complaint.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws.

But that's the point, they're not flouting the law because there is no law which says they're not allowed to go to the park to sunbathe. There does however seem to be an awful lot of people who seem to be putting more effort into trying to impose draconian laws that don't actually exist on others less fortunate than themselves rather than just simply doing their own best themselves to do the best they can to avoid social contact.

I'll ask again,if it is not law can we ignore the police if we are crashed out in the park, or Sat on a bench and they tell us to move, what would you do?

It's never a good idea to argue with the police even when you know you're right. I would point out to the officer that I was not breaking any law but if they insisted I would comply but lodge an official complaint.

"

I'll do that then, when I'm sat on a bench with my coffee.

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By *ovegames42Man
over a year ago

london

Carry out the governments guidelines,

Sunbathing and picking in parks are not part of them.

It’s going to be tough on us all but it’s the only way to get through this .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it really difficult to understand the meaning of "stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives"?

It's very simple English...

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Carry out the governments guidelines,

Sunbathing and picking in parks are not part of them.

It’s going to be tough on us all but it’s the only way to get through this ."

My fellow poster tells me it's ok to sunbathe in the park though...

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Is it really difficult to understand the meaning of "stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives"?

It's very simple English..."

I didn't think so, but I am starting to question myself now

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws.

But that's the point, they're not flouting the law because there is no law which says they're not allowed to go to the park to sunbathe. There does however seem to be an awful lot of people who seem to be putting more effort into trying to impose draconian laws that don't actually exist on others less fortunate than themselves rather than just simply doing their own best themselves to do the best they can to avoid social contact.

I'll ask again,if it is not law can we ignore the police if we are crashed out in the park, or Sat on a bench and they tell us to move, what would you do?

It's never a good idea to argue with the police even when you know you're right. I would point out to the officer that I was not breaking any law but if they insisted I would comply but lodge an official complaint.

I'll do that then, when I'm sat on a bench with my coffee."

You'd only be able to do the pointing out and then comply bit from the park bench. The official complaint bit would have to wait until you got back home. The coffee isn't really relevant unless, in pursuit of obtaining the coffee, you came within 2 meters of the person giving you the coffee: in which case you would have put both yourself and the person giving you the coffee under far more risk of either getting or spreading Covid than if you had just gone and sunbathed somewhere at least 2 meters away from anybody else.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Carry out the governments guidelines,

Sunbathing and picking in parks are not part of them.

It’s going to be tough on us all but it’s the only way to get through this ."

I don't agree it's the only way to get through this. And I genuinely believe that if this lockdown carries on much longer it will do more harm than good. As per usual mental health is all but being ignored

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Is it really difficult to understand the meaning of "stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives"?

It's very simple English..."

Is it really difficult to understand the meaning of 'use your common sense'?

It's just as simple English and also government advice too.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Carry out the governments guidelines,

Sunbathing and picking in parks are not part of them.

It’s going to be tough on us all but it’s the only way to get through this .

My fellow poster tells me it's ok to sunbathe in the park though... "

It's better to sunbathe 8n your own garden, if you have one.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws.

But that's the point, they're not flouting the law because there is no law which says they're not allowed to go to the park to sunbathe. There does however seem to be an awful lot of people who seem to be putting more effort into trying to impose draconian laws that don't actually exist on others less fortunate than themselves rather than just simply doing their own best themselves to do the best they can to avoid social contact.

I'll ask again,if it is not law can we ignore the police if we are crashed out in the park, or Sat on a bench and they tell us to move, what would you do?

It's never a good idea to argue with the police even when you know you're right. I would point out to the officer that I was not breaking any law but if they insisted I would comply but lodge an official complaint.

I'll do that then, when I'm sat on a bench with my coffee.

You'd only be able to do the pointing out and then comply bit from the park bench. The official complaint bit would have to wait until you got back home. The coffee isn't really relevant unless, in pursuit of obtaining the coffee, you came within 2 meters of the person giving you the coffee: in which case you would have put both yourself and the person giving you the coffee under far more risk of either getting or spreading Covid than if you had just gone and sunbathed somewhere at least 2 meters away from anybody else."

It's my own flask from home, no other person was involved with making of said coffee...

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Carry out the governments guidelines,

Sunbathing and picking in parks are not part of them.

It’s going to be tough on us all but it’s the only way to get through this .

I don't agree it's the only way to get through this. And I genuinely believe that if this lockdown carries on much longer it will do more harm than good. As per usual mental health is all but being ignored "

10,000 UK deaths?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Carry out the governments guidelines,

Sunbathing and picking in parks are not part of them.

It’s going to be tough on us all but it’s the only way to get through this .

My fellow poster tells me it's ok to sunbathe in the park though...

It's better to sunbathe 8n your own garden, if you have one.

"

Why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is it really difficult to understand the meaning of "stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives"?

It's very simple English...

Is it really difficult to understand the meaning of 'use your common sense'?

It's just as simple English and also government advice too.

"

The problem with *your* common sense is that it isn't very common. Most people seem to understand that every time you go outside you expose yourself and others at risk because the virus can live on surfaces and "travel" much more than 2 meters, and anyway many people will get close to you when they pass by and there isn't much you can do about it.

Calling this "common sense" is just an attempt to justify the fact that you don't want to accept the rules that are commonly accepted.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"Is it really difficult to understand the meaning of "stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives"?

It's very simple English...

Is it really difficult to understand the meaning of 'use your common sense'?

It's just as simple English and also government advice too.

The problem with *your* common sense is that it isn't very common. Most people seem to understand that every time you go outside you expose yourself and others at risk because the virus can live on surfaces and "travel" much more than 2 meters, and anyway many people will get close to you when they pass by and there isn't much you can do about it.

Calling this "common sense" is just an attempt to justify the fact that you don't want to accept the rules that are commonly accepted."

Well said

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"

I've read the emergency law and nowhere in that law does it say that people are not allowed to sunbathe, build sandcastles or have picknicks.

Naked mandolin quartets aren't specifically mentioned either.

I think they were under the impression that they didn't need to list specific activities because people would have more sense.

Haha. Love it that's the problem, people don't have more sense. We are asked to stay indoors, apart from the exceptions, but there's always those that want to flout the laws.

But that's the point, they're not flouting the law because there is no law which says they're not allowed to go to the park to sunbathe. There does however seem to be an awful lot of people who seem to be putting more effort into trying to impose draconian laws that don't actually exist on others less fortunate than themselves rather than just simply doing their own best themselves to do the best they can to avoid social contact.

I'll ask again,if it is not law can we ignore the police if we are crashed out in the park, or Sat on a bench and they tell us to move, what would you do?

It's never a good idea to argue with the police even when you know you're right. I would point out to the officer that I was not breaking any law but if they insisted I would comply but lodge an official complaint.

I'll do that then, when I'm sat on a bench with my coffee.

You'd only be able to do the pointing out and then comply bit from the park bench. The official complaint bit would have to wait until you got back home. The coffee isn't really relevant unless, in pursuit of obtaining the coffee, you came within 2 meters of the person giving you the coffee: in which case you would have put both yourself and the person giving you the coffee under far more risk of either getting or spreading Covid than if you had just gone and sunbathed somewhere at least 2 meters away from anybody else.

It's my own flask from home, no other person was involved with making of said coffee...

"

It doesn't specifically say in the government guide lines that you are allowed to drink coffee in the park. Do you think the police should stop you from drinking that coffee in the park, even though you made if at home and it poses no additional significant risk to you or anyone else, or do you think that they should use their common sense and concentrate their efforts on stopping things that do actually present a real risk?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Carry out the governments guidelines,

Sunbathing and picking in parks are not part of them.

It’s going to be tough on us all but it’s the only way to get through this .

I don't agree it's the only way to get through this. And I genuinely believe that if this lockdown carries on much longer it will do more harm than good. As per usual mental health is all but being ignored

10,000 UK deaths?"
and we dont know if there would have been less or more if we didnt lock down.. the average yearly death rate for suicide is between 5 and 6 thousand. They reckon it could be much much bigger than this amount this year. That's not to mention the people that will die due to the isolation.. abuse caused by the lockdown.. and not being treated. The virus is not a good thing... it's okay for those of us who have gardens.. family etc.... but there are many many people not so lucky.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Anyway, as of today, my friends cousin died this morning of the virus and an old school friend died last week, both in their 50's. It's not just older people who are dieing, stay indoors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Carry out the governments guidelines,

Sunbathing and picking in parks are not part of them.

It’s going to be tough on us all but it’s the only way to get through this .

I don't agree it's the only way to get through this. And I genuinely believe that if this lockdown carries on much longer it will do more harm than good. As per usual mental health is all but being ignored

10,000 UK deaths? and we dont know if there would have been less or more if we didnt lock down.. the average yearly death rate for suicide is between 5 and 6 thousand. They reckon it could be much much bigger than this amount this year. That's not to mention the people that will die due to the isolation.. abuse caused by the lockdown.. and not being treated. The virus is not a good thing... it's okay for those of us who have gardens.. family etc.... but there are many many people not so lucky. "

There are studies that tell us that without lockdown the numbers would have been much higher. I don't understand why you are skeptic about these studies and not about those regarding suicides.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"Is it really difficult to understand the meaning of "stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives"?

It's very simple English...

Is it really difficult to understand the meaning of 'use your common sense'?

It's just as simple English and also government advice too.

The problem with *your* common sense is that it isn't very common. Most people seem to understand that every time you go outside you expose yourself and others at risk because the virus can live on surfaces and "travel" much more than 2 meters, and anyway many people will get close to you when they pass by and there isn't much you can do about it.

Calling this "common sense" is just an attempt to justify the fact that you don't want to accept the rules that are commonly accepted."

Are you suggesting that people don't follow the government advice to use their common sense?

Personally I have no problem following the government advice on both social distancing and using common sense. I haven't been to any park to either sunbathe or drink coffee. However my common sense tells me that not everyone is as lucky as I am to live in a nice house with a reasonable garden. My common sense also tells me that someone living alone in small bedsit with no personal outdoor space would suffer both mentally and physically if they were not allowed out even to sunbathe on a hot day. The thing about common sense is that it is actually quite common in most people, you just have to choose to use it.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

We will have to wait and see. Not every country locked down

I am not a virologist and my expertise lay in mental health... and I am allowed to be concerned about the deaths that are already increasing.

The increases in domestic violence.. the true cost of the virus will go well beyond those that sadly die from the actual virus

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