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"Yes it's what we need here. Not this farce that everyone appears to be taking no notice of. " Everyone? The figures don’t back you up. Let’s not be in a mad rush to throw away liberties, even short term, when the vast, vast majority are complying to government guidelines. | |||
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"5. A man was shot dead in the Philippines. Ostensibly for not wearing a mask but if you read a bit further into it you see that he threatened police after being told off - so you could argue that he was shot for threatening the police." But a man threatening the police and getting shot doesn't fit some people's agenda. Stop it with the real stories | |||
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"The problem seems to be that despite a much more severe lockdown in Spain and for a longer period the results seem to be no different than here. Yet Sen still not locked down but much less transmission. How are out "leaders" meant to know what works best? I can't see our lockdown changing much either way....but i do see it lasting a MINIMUM of another month!!" Spain reached its peak and is going down. This may happen in 2 weeks in UK or not. If it doesn't happen (I'm sure it won't) we will know for sure that our "lockdown" is ridiculous. But it will also be too late to avoid many thousands of deaths. | |||
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"The problem seems to be that despite a much more severe lockdown in Spain and for a longer period the results seem to be no different than here. Yet Sen still not locked down but much less transmission. How are out "leaders" meant to know what works best? I can't see our lockdown changing much either way....but i do see it lasting a MINIMUM of another month!!" Bare in mind not many of us are being tested | |||
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"Same in South Africa you're not even allowed to go out to walk your dog. They've also banned the sale of alcohol....and people think we have it strict here!!" If you know South Africans then you will know how they feel about booze! | |||
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"But, at least they all have balconies and endless sunshine which make things MUCH easier to handle. " Have you ever been? if so you would know that the townships dont have balconies most only have one room and i can assure you cape town in winter is no fun. | |||
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"But, at least they all have balconies and endless sunshine which make things MUCH easier to handle. Have you ever been? if so you would know that the townships dont have balconies most only have one room and i can assure you cape town in winter is no fun." I think the previous comment referred to Spain But still not really true. | |||
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"But, at least they all have balconies and endless sunshine which make things MUCH easier to handle. Have you ever been? if so you would know that the townships dont have balconies most only have one room and i can assure you cape town in winter is no fun." We were in Capetown for the first 2 weeks of March this year and were lucky to get back home when we did. Ater taking a tour around langa the oldest township in Capetown my heart goes out to all of the family's there. Many have 10+ crammed into a single room which is no more than a hut cobbled together from corregrated iron and similar left overs. Thers no benefits in south africa for those of working age 18-60 during normal times let alone now. Many rely on selling fruit, furniture, trinkets on the streets and this has all been stopped. With nothing set from thier government in place to help with this. KJ | |||
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"But, at least they all have balconies and endless sunshine which make things MUCH easier to handle. Have you ever been? if so you would know that the townships dont have balconies most only have one room and i can assure you cape town in winter is no fun. We were in Capetown for the first 2 weeks of March this year and were lucky to get back home when we did. Ater taking a tour around langa the oldest township in Capetown my heart goes out to all of the family's there. Many have 10+ crammed into a single room which is no more than a hut cobbled together from corregrated iron and similar left overs. Thers no benefits in south africa for those of working age 18-60 during normal times let alone now. Many rely on selling fruit, furniture, trinkets on the streets and this has all been stopped. With nothing set from thier government in place to help with this. KJ " The drive from the airport to the city is pretty depressing isn't it? Such opulent wealth alongside such desperate poverty. I recently worked in Buenos Aires and on the drive from the airport there was an area where tarpaulin was stretched between derelict cars to make "homes". In contrast I stayed in a 5 star hotel, hot tub on the top floor and all expenses paid.... life is really cruel for some at the best of times | |||
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"But, at least they all have balconies and endless sunshine which make things MUCH easier to handle. " Really! There is much more to Spain than Benidorm & Marbella, and even there it isn't "endless" sunshine at this time of year. It's currently pissing down in Galicia (that is north west Spain) and forecast to get most of the country in the next few hours. All have balconies? On the costa's mostly yes, but get into the inland towns and cities and there are thousands upon thousands that don't. | |||
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"Yes it's what we need here. Not this farce that everyone appears to be taking no notice of. " We are to soft in this country,I would like to see over Easter road blocks and heavy fines for people trying to get to country and seaside,use the army if needed.It is our softness that is costing lives | |||
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"But, at least they all have balconies and endless sunshine which make things MUCH easier to handle. Have you ever been? if so you would know that the townships dont have balconies most only have one room and i can assure you cape town in winter is no fun." South Africa?? I read the OP’s post and I’m talking about Spain. Nowhere did they mention Cape Town, so I have no idea what you’re on about. | |||
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"If you're only allowed to buy "essentials" why are shops in Spain still selling non-essentials? " Because we can still buy non essentials as long as it’s in our weekly shop. Also lockdown have had a real issue with mental health issues. Suicide rates have went up. I’ve seen a few people really having issues on some Facebook groups who are struggling right now. | |||
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"But, at least they all have balconies and endless sunshine which make things MUCH easier to handle. Have you ever been? if so you would know that the townships dont have balconies most only have one room and i can assure you cape town in winter is no fun. South Africa?? I read the OP’s post and I’m talking about Spain. Nowhere did they mention Cape Town, so I have no idea what you’re on about. " There are millions of Spaniards who don't have balconies and live in difficult circumstances. | |||
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"If you're only allowed to buy "essentials" why are shops in Spain still selling non-essentials? Because we can still buy non essentials as long as it’s in our weekly shop. Also lockdown have had a real issue with mental health issues. Suicide rates have went up. I’ve seen a few people really having issues on some Facebook groups who are struggling right now. " Now I totally agree with the current measures I think the fact buses are running means we could do more simple measures to actively slow the spread I do not think people should be allowed to travel to holiday hot spots and I do think gatherings of any size irresponsible However we are innocent Humans are not on lock down for punishment This trend maybe virtue signaling to make life as un comfortable as possible does not sit right We Are not trying to wipe out the virus via containment Mental health is vitally important We are surely all trying to deal with this with as little suffering as practicable A very very very fine balance is required here which of course we will not get quite right It goes like this There is no vaccine Of 100 people 80 should recover at home 17 will recover with hospital treatment 3 will die 1 to 2 would die naturally with next 9 months That seems to be the current stats If there was a 100 percent lockdown within 1 month it would be gone However it currently appears that less than 2 percent of the UK would have had it So any reduction in lockdown means we begin again Whilst infection remains in the world and we are less than 50 percent infected we will be subjected to an exponential curve Thus Our NHS has capacity for x We need to have x (20 % of infections) being treated just below capacity until An number of us have had it and are hopefully immune It seems the NHS can cope with 30 000 cases per month That should mean 300 000 become infected not needing hospital At that rate 30 million divided by 300 000 is 100 months in an isolated state If we make rules stricter we dont work near capacity and the 100 is prolonged If we are more lax the NHS is overwhelmed more than necessary die and we come out of lockdown quicker Yes I did say 100 months That's based upon the current data Hopefully it will only be 14 and a vaccination will be developed It matters not how strict we are and how much we can slow the spread This will always remain Whilst more than 60 percent have no immunity And the virus exists in an animal or human somewhere in the world Removing the restrictions will always continue with an exponential re increase So yes let's promote no alcohol no plants no chocolate no teddy bear and absolutely no jogging For 18 -100 months Or Please touch nothing another could have Wash hands Stay long way away from people if you must Keep minimum 2 3 meters away Stay out of crowded shops Dont pick stuff up and put it down Wash stuff from shops Dont use buses Dont mix with friends Dont touch cash Exercise in the least busy area you can find at the least busy time Basically Treat all humans you encounter as having a disease that will kill you Dont go to any tourist spot Protect the NHS But also let's be a tad careful on getting pleasurabley irate and needing others to suffer perhaps beyond what could be beneficial It's a balance a fine one at that with a few unknowns | |||
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"If you're only allowed to buy "essentials" why are shops in Spain still selling non-essentials? Because we can still buy non essentials as long as it’s in our weekly shop. Also lockdown have had a real issue with mental health issues. Suicide rates have went up. I’ve seen a few people really having issues on some Facebook groups who are struggling right now. " Domestic abuse has also increased on a huge scale since lock down. | |||
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"personal responsibility. that's what it comes down too. and again London parks are full of sun bathers. im not surprised by any of it." Selfish.. | |||
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"If you're only allowed to buy "essentials" why are shops in Spain still selling non-essentials? Because we can still buy non essentials as long as it’s in our weekly shop. Also lockdown have had a real issue with mental health issues. Suicide rates have went up. I’ve seen a few people really having issues on some Facebook groups who are struggling right now. Domestic abuse has also increased on a huge scale since lock down. " Child abuse has apparently dropped dramatically due to children not being in school. Hence nobody to pick up on cases i.e teachers who raise red flags. | |||
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