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By *etsome OP   Man
over a year ago

birmingham

Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead? "

Who has said they want him dead?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a 'lefty' I don't want him dead. Just want a renewed love and value for the NHS from him...

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead? "

Generalisation much!

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

I’ve not said that just that he’s a muppet ... wouldn’t go that far and yep I am a compassionate lefty

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nobody wants anybody dead, some people are miffed that the party and government he leads have driving the NHS into the ground through a decade of austerity and now lots of people, who many of us love, will die.

He will get the best healthcare the country has to offer and some of us may get none atall, so i find it hard to break my heart over him 2bh but i hope he recovers because I value people over things like money, unlike tories.

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

My compassion is for my cousin at this moment who has it and has been discharged from hospital into self isolation at home .... Boris I’m sure will do just fine with his private health care ...bet your bottom dollar he ain’t in that hospital !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"because I value people over things like money, unlike tories."

Is that all Tories?

Personally I detest the tribalism in politics that seems to have got worse since Brexit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a 'lefty' I don't want him dead. Just want a renewed love and value for the NHS from him..."

I agree! I certainly don’t want him dead but if people really want to support the NHS don’t vote conservative.

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By *itonmyfacebookMan
over a year ago

Burton on Trent


"because I value people over things like money, unlike tories.

Is that all Tories?

Personally I detest the tribalism in politics that seems to have got worse since Brexit. "

Certainly ain't great on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. All of them. You can be the nicest person in the world but if you back a party whose policies have consistent results, you back those results.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

One comment aside I haven’t seen anyone on here wanting him dead.

Twitter a shit load. Not a nice side of politics whoever these people are and what slant they have.

Peace, Love and wishing Boris and all those affected with this horrible virus a swift recovery.

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By *itonmyfacebookMan
over a year ago

Burton on Trent


"Yes. All of them. You can be the nicest person in the world but if you back a party whose policies have consistent results, you back those results."

Unfortunately the NHS came second to BREXIT as an issue in December's election.

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By *dwalu2Couple
over a year ago

Bristol


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead? "

Yeah, you never hear of any right wingers wanting Corbyn dead on social media every single day, or threatening any other prominent left wing figures, or regularly committing hate crimes, or murdering British MPs n the street.

Makes you really wonder why it’s not called the compassionate right!

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"because I value people over things like money, unlike tories.

Is that all Tories?

Personally I detest the tribalism in politics that seems to have got worse since Brexit. "

Whose responsibility is that?people?politicians?media?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

Yeah, you never hear of any right wingers wanting Corbyn dead on social media every single day, or threatening any other prominent left wing figures, or regularly committing hate crimes, or murdering British MPs n the street.

Makes you really wonder why it’s not called the compassionate right!"

Hey, even rat faced, chundercunt, Cummings, admitted the Tories don't care..

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By *esireXposedMan
over a year ago

East sussex

As far as I'm concerened, politics is on a hiatus at the moment. I may come back to this when normal service resumes, probably not though.

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By *eavy-Metal-CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool

Im more centre left and have what you would call libertarian views. I don't wish death on anyone and hope he recovers but for what he said about my city, gay people and his politics I still hate the buffon.

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By *aintscoupleCouple
over a year ago

st helens

I seem to remember a lot of the lefties saying it was an over reaction when the when they closed schools and other public places for something what was no worse than the flu. Now they have the nerve to claim boris never acted quickly enough and should have gone into lock down sooner.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead? "

Quite often it's a vocal or extreme minority of a group who give the rest a bad name.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I seem to remember a lot of the lefties saying it was an over reaction when the when they closed schools and other public places for something what was no worse than the flu. Now they have the nerve to claim boris never acted quickly enough and should have gone into lock down sooner.

"

Funny, I heard that famous lefty Nigel Farage arguing we should of locked down sooner....bloody lefties

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I seem to remember a lot of the lefties saying it was an over reaction when the when they closed schools and other public places for something what was no worse than the flu. Now they have the nerve to claim boris never acted quickly enough and should have gone into lock down sooner.

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I dont recall anyone saying it was an overreaction.Quite The opposite in fact.

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By *eavy-Metal-CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

Quite often it's a vocal or extreme minority of a group who give the rest a bad name."
absolutely right on both sides of the political specturm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I seem to remember a lot of the lefties saying it was an over reaction when the when they closed schools and other public places for something what was no worse than the flu. Now they have the nerve to claim boris never acted quickly enough and should have gone into lock down sooner.

"

This has to be a joke post?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I seem to remember a lot of the lefties saying it was an over reaction when the when they closed schools and other public places for something what was no worse than the flu. Now they have the nerve to claim boris never acted quickly enough and should have gone into lock down sooner.

This has to be a joke post?

"

No apparently they interviewed every one and they were all 'lefties'.

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley

Alot of people, regardless of their political beliefs, did in fact beg for a lockdown and now that it's here won't follow the instructions. These are the same people that bitched about schools still being open in case their poor little cherubs got ill, the ones whose kids are now roaming the streets in gangs.

There are dickheads in ALL political parties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can’t everyone just be in this together. I have strong political views but right now there’s more concerning things to worry about than arguing about left and right.

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By *aintscoupleCouple
over a year ago

st helens

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"Can’t everyone just be in this together. I have strong political views but right now there’s more concerning things to worry about than arguing about left and right. "

Think it's bad now? Wait til all this is over!!

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

Really never had time for B ( or high horse types spouting off and labelling anyone who disagrees with them 'lefties' btw) .

That said no one wants to see anyone die .. with luck he will recover and have an epiphany that will make him start to work the government around the 80% of most of the population instead of the 20% .. one never knows !

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By *aintscoupleCouple
over a year ago

st helens

this thread is a prime example of why political threads should be kept of fab

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By *aintscoupleCouple
over a year ago

st helens


"Really never had time for B ( or high horse types spouting off and labelling anyone who disagrees with them 'lefties' btw) .

That said no one wants to see anyone die .. with luck he will recover and have an epiphany that will make him start to work the government around the 80% of most of the population instead of the 20% .. one never knows !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"this thread is a prime example of why political threads should be kept of fab"

Or kept in the political forum which I never go into purposefully.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"this thread is a prime example of why political threads should be kept of fab

Or kept in the political forum which I never go into purposefully. "

I literally never knew there was a political forum on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"this thread is a prime example of why political threads should be kept of fab

Or kept in the political forum which I never go into purposefully.

I literally never knew there was a political forum on here."

Yeah. There’s quite a few different forums. I only venture into the lounge though and pop in the virus one at the moment too.

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By *aintscoupleCouple
over a year ago

st helens


"this thread is a prime example of why political threads should be kept of fab

Or kept in the political forum which I never go into purposefully.

I literally never knew there was a political forum on here."
its on the political section

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I know..I never scrolled that far down

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By *unscot44Man
over a year ago

Stepps (Glasgow)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I seem to remember a lot of the lefties saying it was an over reaction when the when they closed schools and other public places for something what was no worse than the flu. Now they have the nerve to claim boris never acted quickly enough and should have gone into lock down sooner.

This has to be a joke post?

No apparently they interviewed every one and they were all 'lefties'.

"

Sounds legit. I'm a believer .

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

Generalisation much! "

Massively so..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"because I value people over things like money, unlike tories.

Is that all Tories?

Personally I detest the tribalism in politics that seems to have got worse since Brexit. "

Agree..

Tend to think that was part of the whole brexit shenanigans..

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead? "

I think the opposite is sometimes true, communists are against compassionate giving, they want the government to enforce exactly how much everyone gives to each other, be responsible for everyone’s needs, and don’t believe in any form of generosity or charitable giving.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

I think the opposite is sometimes true, communists are against compassionate giving, they want the government to enforce exactly how much everyone gives to each other, be responsible for everyone’s needs, and don’t believe in any form of generosity or charitable giving. "

There is a difference between socialism and communism

Very few people want communism in this country.

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

It seems that having a common enemy has shown that political views can be put aside for the greater good.

With all the rest of the troubles we face currently, stirring up political angst at this time seems a tad pointless.

Having read a few of the posts here, the only person you are making angry is yourself..

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Another divide and conquer victim at play

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

I think the opposite is sometimes true, communists are against compassionate giving, they want the government to enforce exactly how much everyone gives to each other, be responsible for everyone’s needs, and don’t believe in any form of generosity or charitable giving.

There is a difference between socialism and communism

Very few people want communism in this country."

As evidenced by the general election only 4 months ago, not that many more want socialism, although you wouldn’t believe it if you spent your time on these forums or Twitter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

I think the opposite is sometimes true, communists are against compassionate giving, they want the government to enforce exactly how much everyone gives to each other, be responsible for everyone’s needs, and don’t believe in any form of generosity or charitable giving.

There is a difference between socialism and communism

Very few people want communism in this country.

As evidenced by the general election only 4 months ago, not that many more want socialism, although you wouldn’t believe it if you spent your time on these forums or Twitter "

Yes he last election was a huge victory for the establishment. The smear campaign against Labour was a great success.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

I think the opposite is sometimes true, communists are against compassionate giving, they want the government to enforce exactly how much everyone gives to each other, be responsible for everyone’s needs, and don’t believe in any form of generosity or charitable giving.

There is a difference between socialism and communism

Very few people want communism in this country.

As evidenced by the general election only 4 months ago, not that many more want socialism, although you wouldn’t believe it if you spent your time on these forums or Twitter "

I have come across that on here yet!

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

yeah like the mayor of heanor in derby who thinks boris deserves to get it.Glad to see the labour party have suspended shiela oakes a plus for starmer i wounder if corbyn would have been so quick.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead? "

Jo Cox labour MP murdered by Thomas Mair an individual with far right views who shouted this is for Britain", "keep Britain independent", and "Put Britain first" during the attack.

"I will be forced to don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines" Nigel Farage

And then we had Priti Patel suggesting the UK govt threaten Ireland with food shortages in order to extract political concessions during the Brexit negotiations.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells


"I know..I never scrolled that far down "

You're missing the bikers forum as well. You need to scroll further, otherwise you will never what you are missing

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I know..I never scrolled that far down

You're missing the bikers forum as well. You need to scroll further, otherwise you will never what you are missing "

Its took me 2 years to find the politics thread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead? "

Yikes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

I think the opposite is sometimes true, communists are against compassionate giving, they want the government to enforce exactly how much everyone gives to each other, be responsible for everyone’s needs, and don’t believe in any form of generosity or charitable giving.

There is a difference between socialism and communism

Very few people want communism in this country.

As evidenced by the general election only 4 months ago, not that many more want socialism, although you wouldn’t believe it if you spent your time on these forums or Twitter

Yes he last election was a huge victory for the establishment. The smear campaign against Labour was a great success. "

Right. So the majority got it wrong? We’re all to stupid to see the ‘truth’? That’s why Labour got absolutely buried and a more centrist figure got elected to lead the Labour Party.

Awfully glad you’re the here to show us stupid people the light.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

I think the opposite is sometimes true, communists are against compassionate giving, they want the government to enforce exactly how much everyone gives to each other, be responsible for everyone’s needs, and don’t believe in any form of generosity or charitable giving.

There is a difference between socialism and communism

Very few people want communism in this country.

As evidenced by the general election only 4 months ago, not that many more want socialism, although you wouldn’t believe it if you spent your time on these forums or Twitter

Yes he last election was a huge victory for the establishment. The smear campaign against Labour was a great success.

Right. So the majority got it wrong? We’re all to stupid to see the ‘truth’? That’s why Labour got absolutely buried and a more centrist figure got elected to lead the Labour Party.

Awfully glad you’re the here to show us stupid people the light. "

Where does he say the word stupid?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

I think the opposite is sometimes true, communists are against compassionate giving, they want the government to enforce exactly how much everyone gives to each other, be responsible for everyone’s needs, and don’t believe in any form of generosity or charitable giving.

There is a difference between socialism and communism

Very few people want communism in this country.

As evidenced by the general election only 4 months ago, not that many more want socialism, although you wouldn’t believe it if you spent your time on these forums or Twitter

Yes he last election was a huge victory for the establishment. The smear campaign against Labour was a great success.

Right. So the majority got it wrong? We’re all to stupid to see the ‘truth’? That’s why Labour got absolutely buried and a more centrist figure got elected to lead the Labour Party.

Awfully glad you’re the here to show us stupid people the light. "

And time will tell if the majority got it right.

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet

Wouldnt wish death on anyone ..however prity Patel?

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead?

I think the opposite is sometimes true, communists are against compassionate giving, they want the government to enforce exactly how much everyone gives to each other, be responsible for everyone’s needs, and don’t believe in any form of generosity or charitable giving.

There is a difference between socialism and communism

Very few people want communism in this country.

As evidenced by the general election only 4 months ago, not that many more want socialism, although you wouldn’t believe it if you spent your time on these forums or Twitter

Yes he last election was a huge victory for the establishment. The smear campaign against Labour was a great success. "

Yep Moderates like David Lammy and Angela Rayner, among with Momentum moderates like Ash (I’m literally a communist) Sarkar will sort it.....

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet

Only kidding..the most despicable politician since madge though.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

For the record however some of those celebrating Brexit day wont be troubling mensa any day soon.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Why don’t the left ever really win in the UK that’s a question I want to know?

I don’t see Blair as a real left winger and we all know how he turned out.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"For the record however some of those celebrating Brexit day wont be troubling mensa any day soon."

I had the misfortune to wonder through Parliament green last summer when the free Tommeh! Brigade were out in force. I think you maybe right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only kidding..the most despicable politician since madge though."

I think May’s handling of both Grenfell and Windrush could give Priti a run for her money as could Gove. In fact, although I’m young, May and Blair are definitely the worst elected of each party in my lifetime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For the record however some of those celebrating Brexit day wont be troubling mensa any day soon."

Quite. And a lot appear to come from the northern Labour heartlands.....

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"For the record however some of those celebrating Brexit day wont be troubling mensa any day soon.

Quite. And a lot appear to come from the northern Labour heartlands....."

No argument.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Why don’t the left ever really win in the UK that’s a question I want to know?

I don’t see Blair as a real left winger and we all know how he turned out.

"

There is an obvious answer but I wont bite.

Because we are traditionally a conservative nation..throw in the media narrative and bingo.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Only kidding..the most despicable politician since madge though.

I think May’s handling of both Grenfell and Windrush could give Priti a run for her money as could Gove. In fact, although I’m young, May and Blair are definitely the worst elected of each party in my lifetime. "

Blair was massively popular.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"Why don’t the left ever really win in the UK that’s a question I want to know?

I don’t see Blair as a real left winger and we all know how he turned out.

There is an obvious answer but I wont bite.

Because we are traditionally a conservative nation..throw in the media narrative and bingo."

I’m not going for a bite mate. It’s a genuine question.

If the Right are so bad why do they keep winning. And why is Europe slowly turning that way. You can see the gains being made.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only kidding..the most despicable politician since madge though.

I think May’s handling of both Grenfell and Windrush could give Priti a run for her money as could Gove. In fact, although I’m young, May and Blair are definitely the worst elected of each party in my lifetime.

Blair was massively popular."

Not disputing that.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Why don’t the left ever really win in the UK that’s a question I want to know?

I don’t see Blair as a real left winger and we all know how he turned out.

There is an obvious answer but I wont bite.

Because we are traditionally a conservative nation..throw in the media narrative and bingo.

I’m not going for a bite mate. It’s a genuine question.

If the Right are so bad why do they keep winning. And why is Europe slowly turning that way. You can see the gains being made. "

Because they appeal to populism?look at brexit ..perfect example.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Having most of the media behind you does them no harm aswell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why don’t the left ever really win in the UK that’s a question I want to know?

I don’t see Blair as a real left winger and we all know how he turned out.

There is an obvious answer but I wont bite.

Because we are traditionally a conservative nation..throw in the media narrative and bingo.

I’m not going for a bite mate. It’s a genuine question.

If the Right are so bad why do they keep winning. And why is Europe slowly turning that way. You can see the gains being made. "

Yes! Someone is asking the correct questions.

I guess we all have our own ideas. Mine is that the establishment are constantly fighting to gain more control. And by continually dividing the working class. It appears to be extremely successful. Largely through their control and influence over the media.

Just look at the amount of negative news over Labour and the anti semitism thing Vs the much larger problem of islamaphobia in the Conservative party as an example of how things were reported on Vs the actual size and severity of the problem.

And it's working too. We've got more Tory government and austerity, people on the news saying they voted Tory because "we need a change", it to "get brexit done". And yet a party that wanted to actually help people were completely demonised.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Why don’t the left ever really win in the UK that’s a question I want to know?

I don’t see Blair as a real left winger and we all know how he turned out.

There is an obvious answer but I wont bite.

Because we are traditionally a conservative nation..throw in the media narrative and bingo.

I’m not going for a bite mate. It’s a genuine question.

If the Right are so bad why do they keep winning. And why is Europe slowly turning that way. You can see the gains being made.

Yes! Someone is asking the correct questions.

I guess we all have our own ideas. Mine is that the establishment are constantly fighting to gain more control. And by continually dividing the working class. It appears to be extremely successful. Largely through their control and influence over the media.

Just look at the amount of negative news over Labour and the anti semitism thing Vs the much larger problem of islamaphobia in the Conservative party as an example of how things were reported on Vs the actual size and severity of the problem.

And it's working too. We've got more Tory government and austerity, people on the news saying they voted Tory because "we need a change", it to "get brexit done". And yet a party that wanted to actually help people were completely demonised. "

I heard about that

Why did you vote conservative?

Because we need a change

You couldnt make that shit up!

Brexit was massive for them..just blame everything on Europe and repeat an meaningless slogan over and over.

Worked a treat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why don’t the left ever really win in the UK that’s a question I want to know?

I don’t see Blair as a real left winger and we all know how he turned out.

There is an obvious answer but I wont bite.

Because we are traditionally a conservative nation..throw in the media narrative and bingo.

I’m not going for a bite mate. It’s a genuine question.

If the Right are so bad why do they keep winning. And why is Europe slowly turning that way. You can see the gains being made.

Yes! Someone is asking the correct questions.

I guess we all have our own ideas. Mine is that the establishment are constantly fighting to gain more control. And by continually dividing the working class. It appears to be extremely successful. Largely through their control and influence over the media.

Just look at the amount of negative news over Labour and the anti semitism thing Vs the much larger problem of islamaphobia in the Conservative party as an example of how things were reported on Vs the actual size and severity of the problem.

And it's working too. We've got more Tory government and austerity, people on the news saying they voted Tory because "we need a change", it to "get brexit done". And yet a party that wanted to actually help people were completely demonised.

I heard about that

Why did you vote conservative?

Because we need a change

You couldnt make that shit up!

Brexit was massive for them..just blame everything on Europe and repeat an meaningless slogan over and over.

Worked a treat."

Not all Tory voters voted for Brexit you know.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Manipulation of the people via propaganda, using their power ovrr your same emotions that terrorists or dictatorships use, whilst also controlling the human priorities for shelter, safety, food, survival etc, is a very tried and tested methodology. Governments and leaders increasingly around the world are ensuring that they do this, stoking the fears, anger, hatred, division, fatigue and overwhelm, whilst they produce a facile solution, usually involving them taking more power away from the masses.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Why don’t the left ever really win in the UK that’s a question I want to know?

I don’t see Blair as a real left winger and we all know how he turned out.

There is an obvious answer but I wont bite.

Because we are traditionally a conservative nation..throw in the media narrative and bingo.

I’m not going for a bite mate. It’s a genuine question.

If the Right are so bad why do they keep winning. And why is Europe slowly turning that way. You can see the gains being made.

Yes! Someone is asking the correct questions.

I guess we all have our own ideas. Mine is that the establishment are constantly fighting to gain more control. And by continually dividing the working class. It appears to be extremely successful. Largely through their control and influence over the media.

Just look at the amount of negative news over Labour and the anti semitism thing Vs the much larger problem of islamaphobia in the Conservative party as an example of how things were reported on Vs the actual size and severity of the problem.

And it's working too. We've got more Tory government and austerity, people on the news saying they voted Tory because "we need a change", it to "get brexit done". And yet a party that wanted to actually help people were completely demonised.

I heard about that

Why did you vote conservative?

Because we need a change

You couldnt make that shit up!

Brexit was massive for them..just blame everything on Europe and repeat an meaningless slogan over and over.

Worked a treat.

Not all Tory voters voted for Brexit you know. "

I'd say a good chunk of them did but you are right not all.

Many in the north did

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Manipulation of the people via propaganda, using their power ovrr your same emotions that terrorists or dictatorships use, whilst also controlling the human priorities for shelter, safety, food, survival etc, is a very tried and tested methodology. Governments and leaders increasingly around the world are ensuring that they do this, stoking the fears, anger, hatred, division, fatigue and overwhelm, whilst they produce a facile solution, usually involving them taking more power away from the masses. "

I'm not sure giving the masses more power is a good idea if Brexit is anything to go by.

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By *entlemanDMan
over a year ago

Fareham


"

Not all Tory voters voted for Brexit you know. "

And yet they still voted for a party that put Brexit front and centre as their number one policy, so what difference does it really make?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a 'lefty' I don't want him dead. Just want a renewed love and value for the NHS from him..."

Ditto

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By *atonMan
over a year ago

barnet


"Why don’t the left ever really win in the UK that’s a question I want to know?

I don’t see Blair as a real left winger and we all know how he turned out. Because the right are eulogised and buttressed by the media and people are usually selfish . Voting labour means fiscal sacrifices for the collective good ...compromises most arent prepared to make

There is an obvious answer but I wont bite.

Because we are traditionally a conservative nation..throw in the media narrative and bingo.

I’m not going for a bite mate. It’s a genuine question.

If the Right are so bad why do they keep winning. And why is Europe slowly turning that way. You can see the gains being made. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My compassion is for my cousin at this moment who has it and has been discharged from hospital into self isolation at home .... Boris I’m sure will do just fine with his private health care ...bet your bottom dollar he ain’t in that hospital !!"

He actually is in that hospital my friend is a dr there on one of the covid wards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a 'lefty' I don't want him dead. Just want a renewed love and value for the NHS from him...

Ditto "

Absolutely this.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry

I'm sure ATOS would find him fit for work.

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By *artinbobMan
over a year ago

Leicester


"I'm a 'lefty' I don't want him dead. Just want a renewed love and value for the NHS from him..."

I’m a lefty and I totally agree with you on this

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"I'm sure ATOS would find him fit for work."

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"Why is it always the lefties who spout how compassionate they are- the ones who always seem to want other people (like Boris) dead? "
Have you ever saw anything from the right wing mob wanting anyone dead? Too many are quick to label anyone that shows compassion or stands up for minorities in any way as leftie snowflakes and I would guess by your attitude you are one. Oh and what a stupid narrow minded post that was.

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"Why don’t the left ever really win in the UK that’s a question I want to know?

I don’t see Blair as a real left winger and we all know how he turned out.

There is an obvious answer but I wont bite.

Because we are traditionally a conservative nation..throw in the media narrative and bingo.

I’m not going for a bite mate. It’s a genuine question.

If the Right are so bad why do they keep winning. And why is Europe slowly turning that way. You can see the gains being made.

Yes! Someone is asking the correct questions.

I guess we all have our own ideas. Mine is that the establishment are constantly fighting to gain more control. And by continually dividing the working class. It appears to be extremely successful. Largely through their control and influence over the media.

Just look at the amount of negative news over Labour and the anti semitism thing Vs the much larger problem of islamaphobia in the Conservative party as an example of how things were reported on Vs the actual size and severity of the problem.

And it's working too. We've got more Tory government and austerity, people on the news saying they voted Tory because "we need a change", it to "get brexit done". And yet a party that wanted to actually help people were completely demonised. "

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