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"All key workers without transport should be collected using a dedicated service " Like a bus? | |||
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"All key workers without transport should be collected using a dedicated service Like a bus? " Hmm exactly like a very special bus with ALL those on it using EFFECTIVE ppe did you miss that bit ? And it matters not if you do not have a car YOU are a carrier The other people on the bus are too You cannot social distance You do not have any ppe You will spread the deadly disease you will kill people | |||
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"All key workers without transport should be collected using a dedicated service Like a bus? " I said PUBLIC TRANSPORT Not no buses | |||
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"All key workers without transport should be collected using a dedicated service Like a bus? Hmm exactly like a very special bus with ALL those on it using EFFECTIVE ppe did you miss that bit ? And it matters not if you do not have a car YOU are a carrier The other people on the bus are too You cannot social distance You do not have any ppe You will spread the deadly disease you will kill people " What do you do if you are key worker and dont have a car? | |||
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"So you are suggesting stopping all public transport? They would need a hell of a lot of your suggested 'special' buses to transport essential workers etc. I would suggest." Yes they would Oh hang on they have them Just A Stop the public using them B make sure EVERY ONE is using Effective ppe Its actually not that difficult when thought about is it So the service continues as now It ONLY collects key workers They and the driver are wearing EFFECTIVE ppe And currently Buses are running with the public on them mixing with key workers no one protected Assume at least 2 are infected without sign Effect is more contagion and NHS deaths Thus A stop public use of bus services B ensure the driver and key workers who do are EFFECTIVELY protected Cost = lives saved | |||
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"All key workers without transport should be collected using a dedicated service Like a bus? I said PUBLIC TRANSPORT Not no buses " OP. Think this through again.... BUSES ARE PUBLIC TRANSPORT! Always have been, always will be. What you propose are Key Workers transport services only! So when would you run services for those who need them, as I and others have stated? Or do I die of starvation to meet your misguided suggestion? | |||
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"How long would it take to install UV lighting into public transport." Bus operators are already running at substantial losses without that added cost on top. | |||
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"So cost comes before safety. Oh well just a thought. " Have you been on a bus recently? In my area, passengers are sitting apart from each other. I see it too as buses pass by me, people sitting away from each other. I cannot vouch for larger cities public transport status but in last Friday's Govt media meeting, shown on TV, the figures were there to demonstrate the huge decrease in public transport rider figures. My brother is a key worker and has to travel by train up and down the country as part of his job. Three weeks ago, trains between major cities were busy. Last week he travelled on a 3 hr trip on a 10 carriage train - there were 24 passengers plus the crew of 2. Ok, the Tube in London still sees the eejits packing the trains full, but people are heading the message. They have no choice to use anything else but public transport. Taxi firms in many areas have taken their fleets off the road. | |||
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"So cost comes before safety. Oh well just a thought. " I'm sure that just doesnt apply to bus companies | |||
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"So cost comes before safety. Oh well just a thought. I'm sure that just doesnt apply to bus companies " UK bus operators work to stringent vehicle safety and licensing rules. If they fail to comply, they can be fined, even lose their Licence. But no matter how many safety features are incorporated into the design of said vehicles, it's the human element of risk that cannot be avoided. Or in other words, it used to be said in the Automotive industry, "it takes 1000's of nuts to hold a car together, but it's the Nut behind the wheel to wreck it!" | |||
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"Based upon current rhetoric. There is no justification for ANY publicly operating bus services Based upon current rhetoric, everyone must be treated as if they are a carrier that includes all key workers All bus public transport are an absolute breach of current rhetoric and everyone on a bus including the driver are carriers who WILL increase the spread and end up killing more NHS staff It matters not that some have no other means of transport If we are suggesting anyone could be a spreader of a deadly virus then it's an absolute no go All key workers without transport should be collected using a dedicated service all including the driver must wear effective ppe from start of day till return Preventing death has no cost !!! I'm not exactly sure this is being taken seriously " how do key workers who use public transport get to work? | |||
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"Based upon current rhetoric. There is no justification for ANY publicly operating bus services Based upon current rhetoric, everyone must be treated as if they are a carrier that includes all key workers All bus public transport are an absolute breach of current rhetoric and everyone on a bus including the driver are carriers who WILL increase the spread and end up killing more NHS staff It matters not that some have no other means of transport If we are suggesting anyone could be a spreader of a deadly virus then it's an absolute no go All key workers without transport should be collected using a dedicated service all including the driver must wear effective ppe from start of day till return Preventing death has no cost !!! I'm not exactly sure this is being taken seriously " how do old vulnerable people who can't afford home delivery get shopping | |||
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"I am sure that the government would absorb the cost to public transport if UV lighting that killed viruses and bacteria was installed to buses trains and supermarkets. This would protect key workers to and from work. And yes bus drivers are key workers also. They already have UV lighting in some areas of the NHS. The country has to use everything in it's arsenal to combat this virus. No matter how crazy the ideal is." Where is your evidence based info source to say that UV lighting kills this virus? The NHS install UV type lighting (as do some supermarkets) in toilets to deter intravenous drug use as it makes veins more difficult to see. It has nothing to do with killing viruses. The NHS use a combination of very intense UV and other factors to sterilise some equipment. The level required is far too dangerous to expose humans to. | |||
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"All key workers without transport should be collected using a dedicated service Like a bus?" ...that did make me titter! | |||
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"What about supermarkets? People moaning about sunbathers in the middle of parks or beaches but keeping to social distancing when supermarkets have queues going all round the block, people using trolleys and baskets and when finished someone else uses the trolly or picks up basket without any surface being wiped clean. Inside people are picking up fruit and veg having a look at it and putting it back and picking up another. People picking up tins,boxed,frozen foods taking a look at ingrediants or nutritional content then putting it back only for the next person to pick it up. All this lock down stuff is pretty pointless if this virus is such a verocious spreader literally everyone from a houshold at some point in the week is going shops for food and essentials so all it takea is one person to have it and use a trolly and the X amount of people to use same trolly may get it and thats x amount of households potential with it. Why thebig hoorah over joggers, walkers, sunbathers, going to 2nd homes when the biggest chance of catching it is at the shops full of people touching everything. " Tesco had a guy wiping down every trolleys handles yesterday near us and lidl provided wipes etc, get the points your making but they are at least trying.. It's down to everyone to make sure they are as safe as they can be.. | |||
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"What about supermarkets? People moaning about sunbathers in the middle of parks or beaches but keeping to social distancing when supermarkets have queues going all round the block, people using trolleys and baskets and when finished someone else uses the trolly or picks up basket without any surface being wiped clean. Inside people are picking up fruit and veg having a look at it and putting it back and picking up another. People picking up tins,boxed,frozen foods taking a look at ingrediants or nutritional content then putting it back only for the next person to pick it up. All this lock down stuff is pretty pointless if this virus is such a verocious spreader literally everyone from a houshold at some point in the week is going shops for food and essentials so all it takea is one person to have it and use a trolly and the X amount of people to use same trolly may get it and thats x amount of households potential with it. Why thebig hoorah over joggers, walkers, sunbathers, going to 2nd homes when the biggest chance of catching it is at the shops full of people touching everything. " My local store has now said please only touch what you will buy | |||
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"All key workers without transport should be collected using a dedicated service Like a bus?" That thought did strike me the instant I read it | |||
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"What about supermarkets? People moaning about sunbathers in the middle of parks or beaches but keeping to social distancing when supermarkets have queues going all round the block, people using trolleys and baskets and when finished someone else uses the trolly or picks up basket without any surface being wiped clean. " Every supermarket I have been to since early March has had sprays to allow you to wipe down your own trolley. Interestingly, every time I did it, no one else was stopping to. It’s up to you to do it, though now some places are physically handing people a wipe to use. " All this lock down stuff is pretty pointless if this virus is such a verocious spreader literally everyone from a houshold at some point in the week is going shops for food and essentials so all it takea is one person to have it and use a trolly and the X amount of people to use same trolly may get it and thats x amount of households potential with it. " Why are “literally everyone” from a household going shopping? It only needs one person and having a whole household out shopping increases the risk way more than you’re fussing about other things. | |||
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