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By *ooski OP   Man
over a year ago

south coast

Public in sweden trust thier goverment far more than most countrys trust thier own....

So why is Sweden still carrying on with life as normal....??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out for them

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By *ooski OP   Man
over a year ago

south coast


"It’ll be interesting to see how it pans out for them "

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, Sweden is much more sparsely populated than the UK and living alone is normalised over there in a way that it isn't in the UK.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Well, Sweden is much more sparsely populated than the UK and living alone is normalised over there in a way that it isn't in the UK."

We have 6x the population in half the land mass of Sweden.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well, Sweden is much more sparsely populated than the UK and living alone is normalised over there in a way that it isn't in the UK.

We have 6x the population in half the land mass of Sweden."

That was what I said.... the UK is more densely populated than Sweden....

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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They are only recording cases of those that die directly of COV-19 and expected to die under normal circumstances.

Time will tell I imagine.

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By *heBirminghamWeekendMan
over a year ago

here

Have a read of this

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200328-how-to-self-isolate-what-we-can-learn-from-sweden

(Can’t claim credit for finding this link - was posted in Politics forum by another forumite on a thread about Sweden)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are only recording cases of those that die directly of COV-19 and expected to die under normal circumstances...."

Isn't that what we're doing?

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

That was what I said.... the UK is more densely populated than Sweden...."

I was agreeing with you and illustrating just how much more densely populated...

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

Smaller and generally more healthy population with better healthcare ?

Maybe they feel they can cope with the numbers in the first wave whe ea we will need two or even three waves.

Very likely the road we would have taken but for media pressure.

Hindsight will be a wonderful thing but invaluable for the next vurus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

That was what I said.... the UK is more densely populated than Sweden....

I was agreeing with you and illustrating just how much more densely populated... "

Oh, fair enough! Time for me to step away for a bit... apologies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Actually Swedish govern is ready for a u-turn uk-style. Löfven declared that Sweden will have thousands of deaths and is preparing new emergency measures, including having the power to bypass the parliament to implement new restrictions.

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By *ooski OP   Man
over a year ago

south coast


"Actually Swedish govern is ready for a u-turn uk-style. Löfven declared that Sweden will have thousands of deaths and is preparing new emergency measures, including having the power to bypass the parliament to implement new restrictions."

We will see

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By *ooski OP   Man
over a year ago

south coast


"They are only recording cases of those that die directly of COV-19 and expected to die under normal circumstances....

Isn't that what we're doing? "

No its not.......hence media having a field day

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By *andyMinx_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds


"They are only recording cases of those that die directly of COV-19 and expected to die under normal circumstances....

Isn't that what we're doing?

No its not.......hence media having a field day"

We are counting those who tested positive for coronavirus, which isn't quite the same as counting those who died from it.

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By *ooski OP   Man
over a year ago

south coast


"They are only recording cases of those that die directly of COV-19 and expected to die under normal circumstances....

Isn't that what we're doing?

No its not.......hence media having a field day

We are counting those who tested positive for coronavirus, which isn't quite the same as counting those who died from it.

"

So how can we believe the stats?

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By *andyMinx_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds


"They are only recording cases of those that die directly of COV-19 and expected to die under normal circumstances....

Isn't that what we're doing?

No its not.......hence media having a field day

We are counting those who tested positive for coronavirus, which isn't quite the same as counting those who died from it.

So how can we believe the stats?"

We can't if you want an honest answer. People could have had the virus since 2019 and as and when death occurs they will test positive for coronavirus. That doesn't necessarily mean they died from it.

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By *ooski OP   Man
over a year ago

south coast


"They are only recording cases of those that die directly of COV-19 and expected to die under normal circumstances....

Isn't that what we're doing?

No its not.......hence media having a field day

We are counting those who tested positive for coronavirus, which isn't quite the same as counting those who died from it.

So how can we believe the stats?

We can't if you want an honest answer. People could have had the virus since 2019 and as and when death occurs they will test positive for coronavirus. That doesn't necessarily mean they died from it."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's worth considering the spread of the population when looking at national population. I would guess the south of Sweden is roughly similar to Yorkshire or Devon people/m2. The cities are just as dense as London or Leeds. Stockholm, Malmo and Gotenburg are large cities by European standards. The north of Sweden is very sparsely populated.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"They are only recording cases of those that die directly of COV-19 and expected to die under normal circumstances....

Isn't that what we're doing?

No its not.......hence media having a field day

We are counting those who tested positive for coronavirus, which isn't quite the same as counting those who died from it.

So how can we believe the stats?

We can't if you want an honest answer. People could have had the virus since 2019 and as and when death occurs they will test positive for coronavirus. That doesn't necessarily mean they died from it."

No they won't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is all about the population density hence why sweden dont do the same as england, italy and spain also having it as business as usual is the best policy during this influenza period too.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Public in sweden trust thier goverment far more than most countrys trust thier own....

So why is Sweden still carrying on with life as normal....??

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swedens death rate is higher than all of its scandi neighbours... norway, finland and denmark

there is beginning to be a backlash over the way the swedish govt are handling this! it looks like they are keeping on with the herd immunity stretegy the uk and the dutch were doing until they did their u-turns a few weeks ago

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Sweden had implemented effective contact tracing for those known to be infected.

Testing and contact tracing, with isolation, are essential parts of the response. It keeps the focus on those who are a major risk. Swedish society is always probably more socially responsible than in the UK.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

So the Swedish PM has now told Swedes to "prepare for thousands of deaths"

Looks like this freedom thingy isn't going to end well.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

I had been hoping we would take the same methods Sweden had.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"I had been hoping we would take the same methods Sweden had. "

It should be the same method as Spain, not Sweden.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"I had been hoping we would take the same methods Sweden had.

It should be the same method as Spain, not Sweden."

This..

Why the Swedish thought this thing would not hit them as it has everyone else is a bit strange..

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By *ookMan
over a year ago

london

They have closed ikea... it’s a start

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

Sweden’s death toll is higher than neighbouring countries and the Government is now preparing “unprecedented” special measures.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Sweden’s death toll is higher than neighbouring countries and the Government is now preparing “unprecedented” special measures.

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According to the reliable data plotted on graphs 8 and nine here

http://nrg.cs.ucl.ac.uk/mjh/covid19/#covid-eu-norm2

Sewden continues to match other countries with similar geographical spreads of population.

As the good comments/interpretations below the graphs say the figures are inconsistent across all nations.

In comparison to other countries does Sweden have a healthy population and are Swedes an older population? Is Swedens health care system comparable to, say, Germany?

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"I had been hoping we would take the same methods Sweden had.

It should be the same method as Spain, not Sweden."

Because Spain are coping so well ?

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"I had been hoping we would take the same methods Sweden had.

It should be the same method as Spain, not Sweden.

Because Spain are coping so well ?"

Spain was late with the lockdown (should have done it at least a week earlier) and by then the infection rate had spiralled out of control.

As seems to be the case in other countries as well it took 3 weeks to see the results.

Now Spain's daily infection and death rates are slowing. So yes Spain is finally starting to cope, but it will be a long haul.

It seems that Sweden has it all to come.

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