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"Absolutely. Had a running joke for the past couple of years. My mum and nan both died when they were 39..... I'm 39.... Just got too much to do..no time to die " You have to believe. | |||
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"We have both had it 99 per cent sure , made us unwell for 3/4 weeks for us the breathing was not nice and fatigue but apart from that had worse Flu in the past " I had pneumonia (diagnosed not just guessing) in early February. My GP surgery have since contacted me saying have put a note on my file to have antibody test as soon as available as they are reasonably sure I have had Covid virus. I hope so!! | |||
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"We have both had it 99 per cent sure , made us unwell for 3/4 weeks for us the breathing was not nice and fatigue but apart from that had worse Flu in the past I had pneumonia (diagnosed not just guessing) in early February. My GP surgery have since contacted me saying have put a note on my file to have antibody test as soon as available as they are reasonably sure I have had Covid virus. I hope so!!" | |||
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"I've actually tried to stay positive for moat of it but I got really upset a couple of nights ago and I couldn't sleep. I'd read about that poor 13 year old dying alone and it broke me. It's a scary time, it's perfectly normal to be frightened. " that upset me and seeing a children's playground locked with a notice on the gate explaining why. Those two things brought it home to me. However I can't afford to be frightened, people depend on me not being scared | |||
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"I’m afraid for my Dad. In the past decade he’s gone from a strong bear of a man to being quite fragile after a heart attack and angina. I am paranoid that someone in the family is going to infect him through carelessness so he’s confined to his house as nobody took it seriously to start. The thought of losing him terrified me. " Same here. Im worried for my mum | |||
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"The past few days has got me frightened a little. Catching it sounds awful and a few people i know are afraid too Any advice on easing it? " Shitless | |||
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"Lowering temperature with paracetomol seems to be a common answer - beyond that nobody is really offering hard and fast advice. " Actually if you are not feeling massively unwell you are best to avoid paracetamol. The body raises your temperature as a natural response to make you inhospitable for the virus and this helps to fight it off. If temp gets too high and you feel unwell obviously take some paracetamol but if you can ride it out you will get better faster. | |||
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"The past few days has got me frightened a little. Catching it sounds awful and a few people i know are afraid too Any advice on easing it? " Stop watching the news . | |||
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"The past few days has got me frightened a little. Catching it sounds awful and a few people i know are afraid too Any advice on easing it? " Try not to be frightened. Both of us seem to have it at the moment. We are very mildly unwell, the biggest problem is tiredness and feeling drained all the time. We're still able to care for our 3yo (we have no choice really) and have continued to do bits work from home. | |||
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"I've actually tried to stay positive for moat of it but I got really upset a couple of nights ago and I couldn't sleep. I'd read about that poor 13 year old dying alone and it broke me. It's a scary time, it's perfectly normal to be frightened. " This got me too, had to fight the tears. Poor thing | |||
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"None of us are especially scared but we are being sensible and are following all the official advice. That's what everybody ought to be doing right now. Hundreds of thousands of people die every year in the UK and for all sorts of reasons. Covid19 is just another on the long list... " I'm absolutely not afraid of the virus I would absolutely not want to catch it and burden the NHS I'm sticking to the rules I'm on my own if i felt I had it and started to have difficulty I'd let myself die | |||
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"None of us are especially scared but we are being sensible and are following all the official advice. That's what everybody ought to be doing right now. Hundreds of thousands of people die every year in the UK and for all sorts of reasons. Covid19 is just another on the long list... I'm absolutely not afraid of the virus I would absolutely not want to catch it and burden the NHS I'm sticking to the rules I'm on my own if i felt I had it and started to have difficulty I'd let myself die " You can catch it despite sticking with the rules. I think I caught it from a colleague before everything got turned on its head and obviously S got it from me. We've never broken the rules though. Fortunately we're also very mildly ill but we have kids, so no sacrifice here. If we needed it, we'd be asking for healthcare help. | |||
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"Try some mindfulness Feeling anxious is natural given this situation. Try and stay off social media although this is hard as it's a useful tool for communicating with friends and family. Adhere to the advice around social distancing and handwashing. Create a self soothe box that has items in that draw your mind away from the worrying and fearful thoughts. Things like favourite photos or bubble bath etc. Some simple tips that may help x " Good call! | |||
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"None of us are especially scared but we are being sensible and are following all the official advice. That's what everybody ought to be doing right now. Hundreds of thousands of people die every year in the UK and for all sorts of reasons. Covid19 is just another on the long list... I'm absolutely not afraid of the virus I would absolutely not want to catch it and burden the NHS I'm sticking to the rules I'm on my own if i felt I had it and started to have difficulty I'd let myself die You can catch it despite sticking with the rules. I think I caught it from a colleague before everything got turned on its head and obviously S got it from me. We've never broken the rules though. Fortunately we're also very mildly ill but we have kids, so no sacrifice here. If we needed it, we'd be asking for healthcare help. " Of course anyone can catch it even when sticking to the rules but doing the latter reduces that possibility hugely and is the best means by which we can all reduce a) the death toll, b) the length of time we're all subject to the restrictions and c) the damage this will cause to our economy and all that comes with that. | |||
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"None of us are especially scared but we are being sensible and are following all the official advice. That's what everybody ought to be doing right now. Hundreds of thousands of people die every year in the UK and for all sorts of reasons. Covid19 is just another on the long list... I'm absolutely not afraid of the virus I would absolutely not want to catch it and burden the NHS I'm sticking to the rules I'm on my own if i felt I had it and started to have difficulty I'd let myself die You can catch it despite sticking with the rules. I think I caught it from a colleague before everything got turned on its head and obviously S got it from me. We've never broken the rules though. Fortunately we're also very mildly ill but we have kids, so no sacrifice here. If we needed it, we'd be asking for healthcare help. " My point was dispite not worrying for myself I'm not going to break the guidelines And if I had my way which apparently I'm evil for even considering I'd go into a particular forest and see no one for a few months quite happy self subsisting and I mean no one But no I have to stay home and see humans occasionally too risky for my preference But rules is rules | |||
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"No, I am not afraid. The human condition has a 100% mortality rate, worrying about dying will ruin what life I have left to live, be it two weeks or 40 years. I would rather not die in the immediate future, so am taking what I consider to be reasonable precautions against becoming infected. Beyond that it's out of my control. " My thoughts as well | |||
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"The past few days has got me frightened a little. Catching it sounds awful and a few people i know are afraid too Any advice on easing it? " My anxiety over the situation caused me to wobble yesterday. I find ensuring I walk every day, eat healthily (or at least try) and avoid alcohol helps. I speak with different friends and family members each day. I also avoid too much social media and 24 hour news limiting that to about 1 hour a day just to keep informed. I also have a to do list ready for when the restrictions are lifted. Stay safe and stay strong OP x | |||
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"Perhaps the only thing to do is not catch it or hope that you have already had it and cured it. Lowering temperature with paracetomol seems to be a common answer - beyond that nobody is really offering hard and fast advice. It's very scary indeed. " Don't say that, I'm sure you have many, many years ahead | |||
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"Do you live on your own OP? Some stats suggest it is harder for singles than couples ( overall) perhaps less able to chat/talk immediately.. The Samaritans have rightly been identified as an emergency service. call them if the fear is too much. freephone 116123" No i took my mum in and look after her. Im keeping it from her that i broke a tooth, and having to patch it with a treatment kit. Dull ache and using pain killers. All dentists are shut. Im going out shopping when needed and dont like leaving her alone too long. | |||
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"Do you live on your own OP? Some stats suggest it is harder for singles than couples ( overall) perhaps less able to chat/talk immediately.. The Samaritans have rightly been identified as an emergency service. call them if the fear is too much. freephone 116123 No i took my mum in and look after her. Im keeping it from her that i broke a tooth, and having to patch it with a treatment kit. Dull ache and using pain killers. All dentists are shut. Im going out shopping when needed and dont like leaving her alone too long. " You should still be able to get an emergency dental appointment All the best to you x | |||
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"Afraid no, concerned yes. It's more difficult for those living alone. Remember there are far more survive this than not thankfully. Do everything you can to minimise risk x There are some good links to mental health advice on the NHS website. I'm just thankful for the technology that allows us to keep in touch with family and friends Stay safe everyone xx" Not sure why it’s more difficult for those living alone? At least we will not be in the category of possibly divorce for some after all this is over with. I’m on my own and I’m doing fine. No one to argue with which is a plus point for me. Take care. | |||
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"Afraid no, concerned yes. It's more difficult for those living alone. Remember there are far more survive this than not thankfully. Do everything you can to minimise risk x There are some good links to mental health advice on the NHS website. I'm just thankful for the technology that allows us to keep in touch with family and friends Stay safe everyone xx Not sure why it’s more difficult for those living alone? At least we will not be in the category of possibly divorce for some after all this is over with. I’m on my own and I’m doing fine. No one to argue with which is a plus point for me. Take care. " I feel for anyone who is in an abusive relationship, and the kids with less than ideal parents, for some it's worse than just being alone, I'm kinda grateful for my solitude at the moment. I could be in a far worse situation. | |||
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"Millions will have PTSD from this outbreak, anxiety and panic attacks are rife, fear will make it worse and complicate life. Now is the time to reach out and chat about your worries, write them down in a worry book, practice mindfulness and meditation, keep the things that are important to you at the forefront of your priorities and take one day at at a time, set goals or make projects to distract you. " My anxiety is trauma based. I'm not quite getting flashbacks at the moment but my body and mind are trapped in that awful helpless state. I'm fighting my way out. I do know it'll get better. But I'm in the fucking trenches again. It sucks so much. | |||
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"I read about the family where the mother died and they took her away and left husband at home with the children isolated Inthe house probably stricken with grief. Lots of trauma and lots to deal with later. Very sad" Fuck The mental health toll of this will be high. | |||
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"Yes excuse my French I’m fucking petrified. I’m a key worker, I live with a vulnerable family member. I go to work come home did a massive shop today incase I get stuck in work the folks will still have food. And yet people are still going out when they don’t need to. I live on the coast 2 weeks ago it was packed im worried it’s going to happen this weekend too and next. I could rant and rant " Big hugs xx | |||
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"It is very real and people need to stay in and let the frontline workers get on with things! No and absolutely no dancing in the street for fitness! Any germs get carried further when your out side due to the breeze! So if people can respect these basic requirements then it may help! " It isn't airborne | |||
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"Bet most of them had underlying issues. It's sad people are dying though. " I have underlying issues (that otherwise can be easily controlled). That's not a nice thing to say. Lots of people have underlying issues. | |||
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"Bet most of them had underlying issues. It's sad people are dying though. " Off course they do or they wouldn't need to be in a care home 24/7 Yes very sad,they are like our family not just people,we would be devastated to lose so many residents at one time,we are use to residents dying,not like this though | |||
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"No one goes on about the 8000+ people flu kills each year in the UK. Or that in 2017/18 the beast from the east was linked to 50.000 deaths in the uk mainly the old and vulnerable the government did little to help them ." This is *on top* of the people the flu kills, is probably about 100x more deadly than the flu, and we have no immunity as this is new. I'm not afraid of the flu, although I do get the jab. This thing scares the shit out of me. And not because of the media, because I'm avoiding the media. | |||
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"Yes but they keep scaremongering about covid killing people when it's the underlying issue that kills most and most aren't even tested for the virus the just put it down to the virus. Didn't mean to upset or offended you.x" My underlying condition, which shoots me from low to high risk, has been treatable to the point of almost asymptomatic, since Victorian times. | |||
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"Bet most of them had underlying issues. It's sad people are dying though. " what a horrible and crass thing to say !! | |||
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"Yes but they keep scaremongering about covid killing people when it's the underlying issue that kills most and most aren't even tested for the virus the just put it down to the virus. Didn't mean to upset or offended you.x" This isn't scaremongering,6 residents died within a few days and more on end of life,I've worked 35 years in nursing homes,this is real and an example of what's happening | |||
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"It's not 100% worst than flu at all." No. It's one hundred TIMES worse than flu. | |||
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"Bet most of them had underlying issues. It's sad people are dying though. what a horrible and crass thing to say !!" I'm 34, fit, healthy, except for one thing which requires me to take medication. Normally not a big deal at all. It appears this virus and my condition interact to put me at high risk of needing intensive care if I get it. Meh. I have a condition. Obviously fit for the knacker's yard. | |||
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"But it's not they won't put a figure of how many died over this winter with flu and we got a vaccine for that" Public Health England produces these data. It took me seconds to find it. | |||
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"No one goes on about the 8000+ people flu kills each year in the UK. Or that in 2017/18 the beast from the east was linked to 50.000 deaths in the uk mainly the old and vulnerable the government did little to help them ." People do tend to jump in with other statistics whenever somebody brings in the reality of what's happening now I think your find this virus is the only one that has caused us to lockdown many countries | |||
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"Sorry to hear you got a condition. " My condition is what it is. Implying that someone dying because they have a condition is less important or noteworthy is sickening. Because yes, that could be me. My condition has been managed for two thirds of my life with minimal discomfort to me, but apparently it makes me disposable. Please think before you spout these things. | |||
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"Sorry to hear you got a condition. My condition is what it is. Implying that someone dying because they have a condition is less important or noteworthy is sickening. Because yes, that could be me. My condition has been managed for two thirds of my life with minimal discomfort to me, but apparently it makes me disposable. Please think before you spout these things." | |||
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"The figures are out there to see. But they can't say how many of those who have died have actually been killed by the covid virus." Maybe because this is a global public health crisis and shit has hit the fan. Data will come out afterwards. But ventilators are being rationed in some places, people sent home with pneumonia in others, in parts of the States some people are being denied their essential medication for all new reasons. As with every crisis, the detail will have to be worked out later. In the meantime, this is a crisis. | |||
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"The reason not enough ventilators etc is the governments under funding the NHS much easier to scare people into staying home. " So why is this a global problem, if it's only about the NHS? | |||
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"I’ve had it, nearly 2 weeks in bed, still not over it as I’ve got a cough but this can take a while to go. I just felt s**t. The figures that the government are giving out are rubbish, it’s obvious that a lot more people have had it." The figures are inaccurate because of the lack of testing. | |||
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"The reason not enough ventilators etc is the governments under funding the NHS much easier to scare people into staying home. " I work in the NHS. 10 ventilators are being delivered every day to the hospital I work at. All the staff are worried. But they just get on with it. I can’t fault what the government are doing. It’s the supply chain and staff shortages because so many are sick. | |||
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"My hat goes of to your and the other NHS staff. But it's still the under funding over the years that put supplies in shortage." I don’t know about what happened in the past I wouldn’t proffer to be an expert. I don’t know what your background is. I’m just stating what I’m seeing at the moment. 750’000 masks 1.1 million gloves 40 pallets of aprons. 1100 reusable visors, in the past week delivered to the hospital I work at. | |||
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"I’ve had it, nearly 2 weeks in bed, still not over it as I’ve got a cough but this can take a while to go. I just felt s**t. The figures that the government are giving out are rubbish, it’s obvious that a lot more people have had it." Even the government regularly acknowledges that lots more people have had it. There's a bit of maths you can do to back-calculate the number of likely current cases based on the number of deaths if the growth rate is constant. With our current doubling time of around 3 days and an assumed underlying mortality rate of 1% (some debate about that, but a reasonable estimate) you should take the current number of deaths and multiply by between 300 and 800 (the range takes account of some likely error margin). That would put our guess for the actual number of people infected at around the 1 - 3 million mark. Perhaps less if we're beginning to fall of the exponential growth curve. There's quite a lot of guesswork and projection along an exponential curve going on there, so I would take it with a good pinch of salt. But my gut feeling is that this number is closer to the truth than the official figures. | |||
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"But there shouldn't be a shortage of these essential things how many clinics care home can't access these things. And how did the government find all the equipment for the new nightingale hospital. It's probably been stashed in some warehouse for years. " There isn’t a shortage. It’s the supply chain. It’s getting the things to where they are needed. Massive backlogs of orders. Not enough transportation. Etc etc | |||
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"There is a shortage according to the government. That's one reason companies are diversifying to get the products to the NHS .any way my rant over all take care and keep safe xx" So, the shortages are due to the equipment and PPE being in the wrong places. We have 700000 masks sitting in a warehouse. The NHS is a massive organisation. The nurses and doctors are the people everyone thinks about. But there is a incredible amount of people working in secondary jobs in catering, cleaning, porters, logistics. They are also working 16 hour days just to keep everything running smoothly. The demand is overwhelming. At the moment they are prioritising ICU wards. Hopefully it will calm down soon. So stay at home you fuckers. All the best stay safe. | |||
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"NO NO underlining is just not killing its Covid 19 that's causing it to kill, perfectly normal people are catching covid 19 and majority are dyeing case at Russell's hall hospital a few days ago perfectly normal young adult gives birth to baby and is in critical condition only from catching it in the hospital and is on a ventilator, she is not gonna make it !!!" The majority are not dyeing (sic) the majority don’t know they have had it. | |||
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