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"I appreciate this is a huge crisis, but the complete mess the government has made of testing is dispicable. The lack of PPE is now costing front line staff their lives. I can understand if the government got it wrong, but time for honesty. The press conferences are also a joke, no questions property answered. I'm afraid we are being let down badly by our leaders at the moment." yeah but, Corbyn and Abbott handling this... c'mon, seriously? | |||
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"I appreciate this is a huge crisis, but the complete mess the government has made of testing is dispicable. The lack of PPE is now costing front line staff their lives. I can understand if the government got it wrong, but time for honesty. The press conferences are also a joke, no questions property answered. I'm afraid we are being let down badly by our leaders at the moment. yeah but, Corbyn and Abbott handling this... c'mon, seriously?" Doesn't bear thinking about  | |||
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"I am amazed they are getting away with the briefings, yesterday they didn't answer one question just babbled on about 'going forward' and wouldn't give any time frames How about some real facts, how many kits have we got, how many tests done today and the real reasons why testing is not happening " Not sure I’ve ever heard a politician answer a question honestly | |||
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"I am amazed they are getting away with the briefings, yesterday they didn't answer one question just babbled on about 'going forward' and wouldn't give any time frames How about some real facts, how many kits have we got, how many tests done today and the real reasons why testing is not happening " Don’t forget the latest natty and memorable strapline- ‘Save the NHS’; it was like they were on a commission to mention that at every opportunity?!? And at the same time not provide enough PPE or tests for front line........ Boris Johnson shouldn’t be thrown out of office through a general election; the bastard should be held to account for manslaughter | |||
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"I appreciate this is a huge crisis, but the complete mess the government has made of testing is dispicable. The lack of PPE is now costing front line staff their lives. I can understand if the government got it wrong, but time for honesty. The press conferences are also a joke, no questions property answered. I'm afraid we are being let down badly by our leaders at the moment. yeah but, Corbyn and Abbott handling this... c'mon, seriously?" There we have the problem, automatically assume I'm saying anybody else would of done better. Stop the footballification of every issue. What I'm saying is, consecutive governments have all played their part in running down our ability to deal with a situation like this. | |||
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"This is why I love it here. The people are so well informed. No point watching the news because Dave from Scunthorpe with his gcse in art, knows exactly where the doctors and the MPs are going wrong. " No expert, but I know when Gove is asked about a shortage of chemicals for testing, says there are none. Then Robert Peston gets onto the industry and they say it's utter nonsense and gave not even been asked to ramp up production......that is just lying from the government. That is fact | |||
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"This is why I love it here. The people are so well informed. No point watching the news because Dave from Scunthorpe with his gcse in art, knows exactly where the doctors and the MPs are going wrong. No expert, but I know when Gove is asked about a shortage of chemicals for testing, says there are none. Then Robert Peston gets onto the industry and they say it's utter nonsense and gave not even been asked to ramp up production......that is just lying from the government. That is fact" Never a fan of Gove | |||
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"This is why I love it here. The people are so well informed. No point watching the news because Dave from Scunthorpe with his gcse in art, knows exactly where the doctors and the MPs are going wrong. " Do you actually watch the news? | |||
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"The tests are there. It’s the speed it takes to do the test that’s the problem. They have to be done at lab at present and there’s only so many staff to do it. The new tests are being developed as fast as possible but people need to understand that doesn’t happen overnight. At present it can take three days for the results to come back. It’s not like a urine dip test. The new tests have to be batch tested and need to give consistent accurate results. So that requires patients to be tested with and without Coronavirus. So that only gives on average 7 days to get the first test to confirm they have or haven’t the virus, there’s three days gone. Then to test the new test, there’s one day gone. Then the final test to confirm. There’s another three days. That’s the seven gone. So it’s not the easiest thing to get that on a test amount of at least a hundred people, especially when people are only getting tested once they exhibit the worst of symptoms. You need to understand people are working their arses off for this and yes you aren’t given all the facts, that’s because you don’t need to know them. All you need to do is as you are told until a time you can go about your business. " Why are we lagging behind other countries? | |||
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"I appreciate this is a huge crisis, but the complete mess the government has made of testing is dispicable. The lack of PPE is now costing front line staff their lives. I can understand if the government got it wrong, but time for honesty. The press conferences are also a joke, no questions property answered. I'm afraid we are being let down badly by our leaders at the moment. yeah but, Corbyn and Abbott handling this... c'mon, seriously?" Whilst I agree Corbyn and co might well have handled this worse, it’s not a get out of jail free for the government. We need to have powerful voices like Andy Burnham and Yvette Cooper asking questions and prodding the government. At a time of crisis we need the whole apparatus of parliament to work effectively. | |||
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"To be honest I think anyone in power would not be having an easy time of it, and I have been impressed with how Boris et al has been handling things. The demand for PPE and testing is worldwide, if it were just a few countries it would be much easier. The government is taking extremely difficult decisions with probably 100s of advisors all suggesting different things. Other countries may have done more testing as they have a stockpile of the chemicals required, are they going to release them to others? I very much doubt it. The demand for PPE has probably overwhelmed the logistic support of the NHS hence the army helping out, and uk companies regearing to produce much needed things (PPE, sanitizer). Things will improve but not immediately, difficult to see what more are we supposed to do as a country? Unless every single able bodied person goes and works somewhere making PPE, sanitizer and testing chemicals." Have a look at what the NHS are saying | |||
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"I appreciate this is a huge crisis, but the complete mess the government has made of testing is dispicable. The lack of PPE is now costing front line staff their lives. I can understand if the government got it wrong, but time for honesty. The press conferences are also a joke, no questions property answered. I'm afraid we are being let down badly by our leaders at the moment. yeah but, Corbyn and Abbott handling this... c'mon, seriously?" I'm sorry What's your point? | |||
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"We need to have powerful voices like Andy Burnham and Yvette Cooper " One raises one's eyebrow. | |||
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"Let’s just say if any of you had any useful knowledge on the subject you wouldn’t be here as you’d be working on it. So it’s safe to assume you know nothing of any use on this. So best leave it to the people that know what’s going on to get down to it. " one raises the other eyebrow. | |||
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"Let’s just say if any of you had any useful knowledge on the subject you wouldn’t be here as you’d be working on it. So it’s safe to assume you know nothing of any use on this. So best leave it to the people that know what’s going on to get down to it. " So we are meant to just to sit here and take everything as gospel that the government feed? | |||
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"The tests are there. It’s the speed it takes to do the test that’s the problem. They have to be done at lab at present and there’s only so many staff to do it. The new tests are being developed as fast as possible but people need to understand that doesn’t happen overnight. At present it can take three days for the results to come back. It’s not like a urine dip test. The new tests have to be batch tested and need to give consistent accurate results. So that requires patients to be tested with and without Coronavirus. So that only gives on average 7 days to get the first test to confirm they have or haven’t the virus, there’s three days gone. Then to test the new test, there’s one day gone. Then the final test to confirm. There’s another three days. That’s the seven gone. So it’s not the easiest thing to get that on a test amount of at least a hundred people, especially when people are only getting tested once they exhibit the worst of symptoms. You need to understand people are working their arses off for this and yes you aren’t given all the facts, that’s because you don’t need to know them. All you need to do is as you are told until a time you can go about your business. " Accepted, but we were behind from the start. Look at 'Exercise Cygnus'.....we could of been far better prepared. The key role of any government is to protect its people. It tested for this, saw the lack of preparedness and did nothing. Seem to love demonising junior doctors though... | |||
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"Let’s just say if any of you had any useful knowledge on the subject you wouldn’t be here as you’d be working on it. So it’s safe to assume you know nothing of any use on this. So best leave it to the people that know what’s going on to get down to it. " And you're the arbiter of deciding who gets to express an opinion. That's very noble of you. | |||
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"I wholly agree but it seems that the problem is getting hold of the equipment at a time when the entire world is trying to do the same thing " It's not like we're overdue a pandemic for 80 years and couldve been planning for it!! Oh wait... | |||
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"Let’s just say if any of you had any useful knowledge on the subject you wouldn’t be here as you’d be working on it. So it’s safe to assume you know nothing of any use on this. So best leave it to the people that know what’s going on to get down to it. " Yep like the 200 scientists who have raised concerns with the gmnt Or the head of nursing Or the who Or people who actually work in hospitals Clearly the great British public are more informed than such people. | |||
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"Let’s just say if any of you had any useful knowledge on the subject you wouldn’t be here as you’d be working on it. So it’s safe to assume you know nothing of any use on this. So best leave it to the people that know what’s going on to get down to it. So we are meant to just to sit here and take everything as gospel that the government feed? " Until a point where you can be of any use. Yes. | |||
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"The tests are there. It’s the speed it takes to do the test that’s the problem. They have to be done at lab at present and there’s only so many staff to do it. The new tests are being developed as fast as possible but people need to understand that doesn’t happen overnight. At present it can take three days for the results to come back. It’s not like a urine dip test. The new tests have to be batch tested and need to give consistent accurate results. So that requires patients to be tested with and without Coronavirus. So that only gives on average 7 days to get the first test to confirm they have or haven’t the virus, there’s three days gone. Then to test the new test, there’s one day gone. Then the final test to confirm. There’s another three days. That’s the seven gone. So it’s not the easiest thing to get that on a test amount of at least a hundred people, especially when people are only getting tested once they exhibit the worst of symptoms. You need to understand people are working their arses off for this and yes you aren’t given all the facts, that’s because you don’t need to know them. All you need to do is as you are told until a time you can go about your business. Why are we lagging behind other countries?" From what I'm reading it seems that Public Health England (PHE) are refusing private help and want to control everything. In Germany each individual state coordinates its own testing with central government just overseeing and helping when necessary. It's about time the minister stepped in and released the PHE str*nglehold on testing and let individual health trusts take charge locally. And yes, with private help. Sadly internal politics at PHE will try to block it at every turn. Too many six figure salaries to protect. | |||
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"Let’s just say if any of you had any useful knowledge on the subject you wouldn’t be here as you’d be working on it. So it’s safe to assume you know nothing of any use on this. So best leave it to the people that know what’s going on to get down to it. So we are meant to just to sit here and take everything as gospel that the government feed? " It's simple really If you think johnson deserves a medal you have a valid case and should be heard. If you have any legitimate concerns about this entire shambles you are I'll informed and your opinion,despite being based on fact is worthless. | |||
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"I appreciate this is a huge crisis, but the complete mess the government has made of testing is dispicable. The lack of PPE is now costing front line staff their lives. I can understand if the government got it wrong, but time for honesty. The press conferences are also a joke, no questions property answered. I'm afraid we are being let down badly by our leaders at the moment." Its criminal. They knew this was coming and should have stock piled . There are no excuses | |||
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"Let’s just say if any of you had any useful knowledge on the subject you wouldn’t be here as you’d be working on it. So it’s safe to assume you know nothing of any use on this. So best leave it to the people that know what’s going on to get down to it. So we are meant to just to sit here and take everything as gospel that the government feed? Until a point where you can be of any use. Yes. " Yet here you are, whats your focus of attention? Journalists, trade unions or charity workers? | |||
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"The tests are there. It’s the speed it takes to do the test that’s the problem. They have to be done at lab at present and there’s only so many staff to do it. The new tests are being developed as fast as possible but people need to understand that doesn’t happen overnight. At present it can take three days for the results to come back. It’s not like a urine dip test. The new tests have to be batch tested and need to give consistent accurate results. So that requires patients to be tested with and without Coronavirus. So that only gives on average 7 days to get the first test to confirm they have or haven’t the virus, there’s three days gone. Then to test the new test, there’s one day gone. Then the final test to confirm. There’s another three days. That’s the seven gone. So it’s not the easiest thing to get that on a test amount of at least a hundred people, especially when people are only getting tested once they exhibit the worst of symptoms. You need to understand people are working their arses off for this and yes you aren’t given all the facts, that’s because you don’t need to know them. All you need to do is as you are told until a time you can go about your business. Why are we lagging behind other countries? From what I'm reading it seems that Public Health England (PHE) are refusing private help and want to control everything. In Germany each individual state coordinates its own testing with central government just overseeing and helping when necessary. It's about time the minister stepped in and released the PHE str*nglehold on testing and let individual health trusts take charge locally. And yes, with private help. Sadly internal politics at PHE will try to block it at every turn. Too many six figure salaries to protect." I dont know about the procedurenent procedure of the NHS but it seems blame is already been diverted. In the guardian today there is a piece where the Who told us 6 weeks ago to start testing and we ignored their advice. | |||
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"I appreciate this is a huge crisis, but the complete mess the government has made of testing is dispicable. The lack of PPE is now costing front line staff their lives. I can understand if the government got it wrong, but time for honesty. The press conferences are also a joke, no questions property answered. I'm afraid we are being let down badly by our leaders at the moment. Its criminal. They knew this was coming and should have stock piled . There are no excuses " This started in late dec. But you cant imsgine them to have everything in place ovenright. | |||
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"Let’s just say if any of you had any useful knowledge on the subject you wouldn’t be here as you’d be working on it. So it’s safe to assume you know nothing of any use on this. So best leave it to the people that know what’s going on to get down to it. one raises the other eyebrow. " I’m trying to force my eyebrows down...... and waiting for a call so I can get back to do something I hoped I wouldn’t have to do ever again | |||
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"The tests are there. It’s the speed it takes to do the test that’s the problem. They have to be done at lab at present and there’s only so many staff to do it. The new tests are being developed as fast as possible but people need to understand that doesn’t happen overnight. At present it can take three days for the results to come back. It’s not like a urine dip test. The new tests have to be batch tested and need to give consistent accurate results. So that requires patients to be tested with and without Coronavirus. So that only gives on average 7 days to get the first test to confirm they have or haven’t the virus, there’s three days gone. Then to test the new test, there’s one day gone. Then the final test to confirm. There’s another three days. That’s the seven gone. So it’s not the easiest thing to get that on a test amount of at least a hundred people, especially when people are only getting tested once they exhibit the worst of symptoms. You need to understand people are working their arses off for this and yes you aren’t given all the facts, that’s because you don’t need to know them. All you need to do is as you are told until a time you can go about your business. Why are we lagging behind other countries? From what I'm reading it seems that Public Health England (PHE) are refusing private help and want to control everything. In Germany each individual state coordinates its own testing with central government just overseeing and helping when necessary. It's about time the minister stepped in and released the PHE str*nglehold on testing and let individual health trusts take charge locally. And yes, with private help. Sadly internal politics at PHE will try to block it at every turn. Too many six figure salaries to protect. I dont know about the procedurenent procedure of the NHS but it seems blame is already been diverted. In the guardian today there is a piece where the Who told us 6 weeks ago to start testing and we ignored their advice." Yes. Because the government preferred to listen to PHE instead. PHE is nothing more than a huge quango with an astronomical budget and over 200 six figure salaries that spends most of its time counting paper clips. Before this the most difficult thing it has ever worked on is telling kids to stop drinking sugary drinks. PHE is completely out of its depth on this one and its control of it should be removed. | |||
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"Let’s just say if any of you had any useful knowledge on the subject you wouldn’t be here as you’d be working on it. So it’s safe to assume you know nothing of any use on this. So best leave it to the people that know what’s going on to get down to it. " It's the news, not opinion. The people that do know more are criticising the government. It's fact, I know that is deeply deeply unfashionable these days... | |||
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" There we have the problem, automatically assume I'm saying anybody else would of done better. Stop the footballification of every issue. What I'm saying is, consecutive governments have all played their part in running down our ability to deal with a situation like this." Amazing isn’t it that despite the failure of this government to not only deal with this crisis (lest we forget they completely prevailing wisdom and decided upon the herd immunity course) people are still, for some strange reason, reverting to whataboutism and bringing up a hypothetical failure of Labour. They’re not the ones at the helm costing British lives yet somehow I’m supposed to feel better about BoJo being in charge... | |||
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"The tests are there. It’s the speed it takes to do the test that’s the problem. They have to be done at lab at present and there’s only so many staff to do it. The new tests are being developed as fast as possible but people need to understand that doesn’t happen overnight. At present it can take three days for the results to come back. It’s not like a urine dip test. The new tests have to be batch tested and need to give consistent accurate results. So that requires patients to be tested with and without Coronavirus. So that only gives on average 7 days to get the first test to confirm they have or haven’t the virus, there’s three days gone. Then to test the new test, there’s one day gone. Then the final test to confirm. There’s another three days. That’s the seven gone. So it’s not the easiest thing to get that on a test amount of at least a hundred people, especially when people are only getting tested once they exhibit the worst of symptoms. You need to understand people are working their arses off for this and yes you aren’t given all the facts, that’s because you don’t need to know them. All you need to do is as you are told until a time you can go about your business. Why are we lagging behind other countries? From what I'm reading it seems that Public Health England (PHE) are refusing private help and want to control everything. In Germany each individual state coordinates its own testing with central government just overseeing and helping when necessary. It's about time the minister stepped in and released the PHE str*nglehold on testing and let individual health trusts take charge locally. And yes, with private help. Sadly internal politics at PHE will try to block it at every turn. Too many six figure salaries to protect. I dont know about the procedurenent procedure of the NHS but it seems blame is already been diverted. In the guardian today there is a piece where the Who told us 6 weeks ago to start testing and we ignored their advice. Yes. Because the government preferred to listen to PHE instead. PHE is nothing more than a huge quango with an astronomical budget and over 200 six figure salaries that spends most of its time counting paper clips. Before this the most difficult thing it has ever worked on is telling kids to stop drinking sugary drinks. PHE is completely out of its depth on this one and its control of it should be removed." So the gmnt fucked up then didny they?I dont trust this gmnt in the slightest.We are all in this together yet when the shit hits the fan they will throw anyone under the bus. At the end of the day they are running the show and if anyone seriously believes this has/is being handled well they are utterly deluded. | |||
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" There we have the problem, automatically assume I'm saying anybody else would of done better. Stop the footballification of every issue. What I'm saying is, consecutive governments have all played their part in running down our ability to deal with a situation like this. Amazing isn’t it that despite the failure of this government to not only deal with this crisis (lest we forget they completely prevailing wisdom and decided upon the herd immunity course) people are still, for some strange reason, reverting to whataboutism and bringing up a hypothetical failure of Labour. They’re not the ones at the helm costing British lives yet somehow I’m supposed to feel better about BoJo being in charge... " Its the standard defence Oh what would Corbyn have done. Its pathetic. | |||
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"Hindsight is wonderful. There’s always a we should have done this. It’s human nature. But nowadays everyone wants to hold someone to account for something. Life doesn’t always go well but it’s not always someone’s fault. We’ve all missed opportunities in life and regretted after. It’s the people obviously in council accommodation and not working that gets me. Happy enough to take from the government yet moan every step of the way about it. Like they are helping the situation in anyway. Their best bet would be get a job and free up some more money. " But they had ample warning... we were watching on in Britain at China, then Iran, then Italy and all the meanwhile what was the government doing to prepare our frontline services? Because if they had been busy I can’t see the fruits of their labours given we’re on a worse trajectory than the Italians. BoJo left it up to behavioural scientists rather than esteemed public health experts to coordinate a response costing British lives. | |||
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"Hindsight is wonderful. There’s always a we should have done this. It’s human nature. But nowadays everyone wants to hold someone to account for something. Life doesn’t always go well but it’s not always someone’s fault. We’ve all missed opportunities in life and regretted after. It’s the people obviously in council accommodation and not working that gets me. Happy enough to take from the government yet moan every step of the way about it. Like they are helping the situation in anyway. Their best bet would be get a job and free up some more money. " A global pandemic being handled completely shambolicy and people on benefits in "council accommodation'are too blame. You couldnt make this shit up. | |||
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"The tests are there. It’s the speed it takes to do the test that’s the problem. They have to be done at lab at present and there’s only so many staff to do it. The new tests are being developed as fast as possible but people need to understand that doesn’t happen overnight. At present it can take three days for the results to come back. It’s not like a urine dip test. The new tests have to be batch tested and need to give consistent accurate results. So that requires patients to be tested with and without Coronavirus. So that only gives on average 7 days to get the first test to confirm they have or haven’t the virus, there’s three days gone. Then to test the new test, there’s one day gone. Then the final test to confirm. There’s another three days. That’s the seven gone. So it’s not the easiest thing to get that on a test amount of at least a hundred people, especially when people are only getting tested once they exhibit the worst of symptoms. You need to understand people are working their arses off for this and yes you aren’t given all the facts, that’s because you don’t need to know them. All you need to do is as you are told until a time you can go about your business. Why are we lagging behind other countries? From what I'm reading it seems that Public Health England (PHE) are refusing private help and want to control everything. In Germany each individual state coordinates its own testing with central government just overseeing and helping when necessary. It's about time the minister stepped in and released the PHE str*nglehold on testing and let individual health trusts take charge locally. And yes, with private help. Sadly internal politics at PHE will try to block it at every turn. Too many six figure salaries to protect. I dont know about the procedurenent procedure of the NHS but it seems blame is already been diverted. In the guardian today there is a piece where the Who told us 6 weeks ago to start testing and we ignored their advice. Yes. Because the government preferred to listen to PHE instead. PHE is nothing more than a huge quango with an astronomical budget and over 200 six figure salaries that spends most of its time counting paper clips. Before this the most difficult thing it has ever worked on is telling kids to stop drinking sugary drinks. PHE is completely out of its depth on this one and its control of it should be removed. So the gmnt fucked up then didny they?I dont trust this gmnt in the slightest.We are all in this together yet when the shit hits the fan they will throw anyone under the bus. At the end of the day they are running the show and if anyone seriously believes this has/is being handled well they are utterly deluded." It has been handled very badly. However when you pay fortunes to your own in house "experts" you are supposed to listen to them, initially anyway. Now it is clear that these in house "experts" have got it tragically wrong it is time to sideline them and get cracking on what has been proven in other countries to be successful. | |||
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"We were two weeks behind the Italians and now we are dropping behind. So obviously something is going right. " So here we are at the heart of the issue: you’re actually just misinformed. Go read some of John Burn-Murdoch’s statistical analysis. Have a stiff drink ready because you might well drop your Boris flag... | |||
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"I love the recriminations already. I think people are forgetting there is no script for this. Mistakes have been and are still being made. But an awful lot they are getting right to. We need to look at what’s happening objectively and not through the prism of tribal party loyalties. It’s not Brexit you know "Serious question. What are they doing right? I think the pay thing is a good step. What else? | |||
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"I love the recriminations already. I think people are forgetting there is no script for this. Mistakes have been and are still being made. But an awful lot they are getting right to. We need to look at what’s happening objectively and not through the prism of tribal party loyalties. It’s not Brexit you know "But there’s an entire branch of public health medicine that is dedicated to the study of pandemic outbreaks called epidemiology. The problem we face in the UK has been swinging cuts to public health provision and a shift away from reliance on public health experts towards behavioural psychologists because of ideological reasons. The likes of South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong and others learnt lessons from the SARS epidemic we could easily have drawn on to cushion the blow yet for God only knows what reasons we went with a herd immunity tactic. | |||
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"We were two weeks behind the Italians and now we are dropping behind. So obviously something is going right. So here we are at the heart of the issue: you’re actually just misinformed. Go read some of John Burn-Murdoch’s statistical analysis. Have a stiff drink ready because you might well drop your Boris flag..." Our unicorn is a doctor working as a data scientist evaluating the results. She’s also Italian so has a very keen interest in this as her family are suffering. She is very complementary of how it’s going and says things are beginning to head in the right direction. The graph is still exponential but we are now behind the drag curve. And as for waving my boris flag. Yes I’m very proud of him and yes I’m a member of the party. And I have now increased my monthly donations. He’s a class act. He’s doing the right things for the country. And I’m proud to have him as our leader. | |||
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"We were two weeks behind the Italians and now we are dropping behind. So obviously something is going right. So here we are at the heart of the issue: you’re actually just misinformed. Go read some of John Burn-Murdoch’s statistical analysis. Have a stiff drink ready because you might well drop your Boris flag... Our unicorn is a doctor working as a data scientist evaluating the results. She’s also Italian so has a very keen interest in this as her family are suffering. She is very complementary of how it’s going and says things are beginning to head in the right direction. The graph is still exponential but we are now behind the drag curve. And as for waving my boris flag. Yes I’m very proud of him and yes I’m a member of the party. And I have now increased my monthly donations. He’s a class act. He’s doing the right things for the country. And I’m proud to have him as our leader. " Class act. Caught lying several occasions Personal life Racist comments Expelled people from his own party because they didnt vote the same way. Class act. | |||
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" There we have the problem, automatically assume I'm saying anybody else would of done better. Stop the footballification of every issue. What I'm saying is, consecutive governments have all played their part in running down our ability to deal with a situation like this. Amazing isn’t it that despite the failure of this government to not only deal with this crisis (lest we forget they completely prevailing wisdom and decided upon the herd immunity course) people are still, for some strange reason, reverting to whataboutism and bringing up a hypothetical failure of Labour. They’re not the ones at the helm costing British lives yet somehow I’m supposed to feel better about BoJo being in charge... Its the standard defence Oh what would Corbyn have done. Its pathetic." I only come on to read your comments lmao always cheers me up and starts the day with a smile  what does amuse me though is all the corbyn supporters ranting "they should of done this 6 weeks ago, they should of done that" blah blah.... corbyn was still mopping up his tears over Brexit in January.
Anyway dont mind me I just wanted to prod the Hornets nest  I like the reaction.
I'll just wait for election day, I love watching with a huge grin on my face when the Tories whitewash labour with a landslide victory 
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" There we have the problem, automatically assume I'm saying anybody else would of done better. Stop the footballification of every issue. What I'm saying is, consecutive governments have all played their part in running down our ability to deal with a situation like this. Amazing isn’t it that despite the failure of this government to not only deal with this crisis (lest we forget they completely prevailing wisdom and decided upon the herd immunity course) people are still, for some strange reason, reverting to whataboutism and bringing up a hypothetical failure of Labour. They’re not the ones at the helm costing British lives yet somehow I’m supposed to feel better about BoJo being in charge... Its the standard defence Oh what would Corbyn have done. Its pathetic. I only come on to read your comments lmao always cheers me up and starts the day with a smile what does amuse me though is all the corbyn supporters ranting "they should of done this 6 weeks ago, they should of done that" blah blah.... corbyn was still mopping up his tears over Brexit in January.
Anyway dont mind me I just wanted to prod the Hornets nest I like the reaction.
I'll just wait for election day, I love watching with a huge grin on my face when the Tories whitewash labour with a landslide victory
STAY HOME, PROTECT THE NHS, SAVE LIVES! "Dont worry. We will all be mopping our tears up about Brexit in a few years. And cheers for your insightful input. | |||
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"We were two weeks behind the Italians and now we are dropping behind. So obviously something is going right. So here we are at the heart of the issue: you’re actually just misinformed. Go read some of John Burn-Murdoch’s statistical analysis. Have a stiff drink ready because you might well drop your Boris flag... Our unicorn is a doctor working as a data scientist evaluating the results. She’s also Italian so has a very keen interest in this as her family are suffering. She is very complementary of how it’s going and says things are beginning to head in the right direction. The graph is still exponential but we are now behind the drag curve. And as for waving my boris flag. Yes I’m very proud of him and yes I’m a member of the party. And I have now increased my monthly donations. He’s a class act. He’s doing the right things for the country. And I’m proud to have him as our leader. Class act. Caught lying several occasions Personal life Racist comments Expelled people from his own party because they didnt vote the same way. Class act." And with his approval rating 13 points above his landslide election victory. A lot more people also think that. | |||
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"We were two weeks behind the Italians and now we are dropping behind. So obviously something is going right. So here we are at the heart of the issue: you’re actually just misinformed. Go read some of John Burn-Murdoch’s statistical analysis. Have a stiff drink ready because you might well drop your Boris flag... Our unicorn is a doctor working as a data scientist evaluating the results. She’s also Italian so has a very keen interest in this as her family are suffering. She is very complementary of how it’s going and says things are beginning to head in the right direction. The graph is still exponential but we are now behind the drag curve. And as for waving my boris flag. Yes I’m very proud of him and yes I’m a member of the party. And I have now increased my monthly donations. He’s a class act. He’s doing the right things for the country. And I’m proud to have him as our leader. Class act. Caught lying several occasions Personal life Racist comments Expelled people from his own party because they didnt vote the same way. Class act. And with his approval rating 13 points above his landslide election victory. A lot more people also think that. "  | |||
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" There we have the problem, automatically assume I'm saying anybody else would of done better. Stop the footballification of every issue. What I'm saying is, consecutive governments have all played their part in running down our ability to deal with a situation like this. Amazing isn’t it that despite the failure of this government to not only deal with this crisis (lest we forget they completely prevailing wisdom and decided upon the herd immunity course) people are still, for some strange reason, reverting to whataboutism and bringing up a hypothetical failure of Labour. They’re not the ones at the helm costing British lives yet somehow I’m supposed to feel better about BoJo being in charge... Its the standard defence Oh what would Corbyn have done. Its pathetic. I only come on to read your comments lmao always cheers me up and starts the day with a smile what does amuse me though is all the corbyn supporters ranting "they should of done this 6 weeks ago, they should of done that" blah blah.... corbyn was still mopping up his tears over Brexit in January.
Anyway dont mind me I just wanted to prod the Hornets nest I like the reaction.
I'll just wait for election day, I love watching with a huge grin on my face when the Tories whitewash labour with a landslide victory
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"We were two weeks behind the Italians and now we are dropping behind. So obviously something is going right. So here we are at the heart of the issue: you’re actually just misinformed. Go read some of John Burn-Murdoch’s statistical analysis. Have a stiff drink ready because you might well drop your Boris flag... Our unicorn is a doctor working as a data scientist evaluating the results. She’s also Italian so has a very keen interest in this as her family are suffering. She is very complementary of how it’s going and says things are beginning to head in the right direction. The graph is still exponential but we are now behind the drag curve. And as for waving my boris flag. Yes I’m very proud of him and yes I’m a member of the party. And I have now increased my monthly donations. He’s a class act. He’s doing the right things for the country. And I’m proud to have him as our leader. Class act. Caught lying several occasions Personal life Racist comments Expelled people from his own party because they didnt vote the same way. Class act. And with his approval rating 13 points above his landslide election victory. A lot more people also think that. " Indeed as Brexit shows you can fool all the idiots all of the time. | |||
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"Our unicorn is a doctor working as a data scientist evaluating the results. She’s also Italian so has a very keen interest in this as her family are suffering. She is very complementary of how it’s going and says things are beginning to head in the right direction. The graph is still exponential but we are now behind the drag curve. And as for waving my boris flag. Yes I’m very proud of him and yes I’m a member of the party. And I have now increased my monthly donations. He’s a class act. He’s doing the right things for the country. And I’m proud to have him as our leader. " And I am supposed to take the word of that one doctor as gospel in spite of the near-global consensus in the medical field that testing, isolating and vaccine development is key to fighting this. Not the approach that BoJo wanted to take which was to let it tear through the population sacrificing our most vulnerable until we got to the requisite stage of immunity among the populace. Right. | |||
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" There we have the problem, automatically assume I'm saying anybody else would of done better. Stop the footballification of every issue. What I'm saying is, consecutive governments have all played their part in running down our ability to deal with a situation like this. Amazing isn’t it that despite the failure of this government to not only deal with this crisis (lest we forget they completely prevailing wisdom and decided upon the herd immunity course) people are still, for some strange reason, reverting to whataboutism and bringing up a hypothetical failure of Labour. They’re not the ones at the helm costing British lives yet somehow I’m supposed to feel better about BoJo being in charge... Its the standard defence Oh what would Corbyn have done. Its pathetic. I only come on to read your comments lmao always cheers me up and starts the day with a smile what does amuse me though is all the corbyn supporters ranting "they should of done this 6 weeks ago, they should of done that" blah blah.... corbyn was still mopping up his tears over Brexit in January.
Anyway dont mind me I just wanted to prod the Hornets nest I like the reaction.
I'll just wait for election day, I love watching with a huge grin on my face when the Tories whitewash labour with a landslide victory
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" Stop picking sides. It's not about sides, it's about criticising whoever has failed. I said consecutive governments are liable for the lead up to this. Blind tribalism is ruining this country" Hear, hear. The worst bit is that I don’t personally vote along party lines but rather based on manifesto yet as you point out, the crazed tribalism on show is horrifying. People are more willing to pick a side in order to somehow defend their ideological stance than let reason ruler the day. Maddening. | |||
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"We were two weeks behind the Italians and now we are dropping behind. So obviously something is going right. " This is entirely false, we are still 2 weeks behind. | |||
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"The reason some of you have shit lives isn’t the governments fault, it’s yours. We’ve have all had access to a good education and a jobs market open to everyone. If you’ve not capitalised on it, then it’s your fault. But the government are saving lives. No country has won the battle yet. The time to reflect is at the end." Who has a shit life? | |||
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"The reason some of you have shit lives isn’t the governments fault, it’s yours. We’ve have all had access to a good education and a jobs market open to everyone. If you’ve not capitalised on it, then it’s your fault. But the government are saving lives. No country has won the battle yet. The time to reflect is at the end." What on earth are you on about? This is about testing. My life is great thanks. This is about people a government dragging its feet and consecutive governments letting our NHS down. | |||
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"The reason some of you have shit lives isn’t the governments fault, it’s yours. We’ve have all had access to a good education and a jobs market open to everyone. If you’ve not capitalised on it, then it’s your fault. But the government are saving lives. No country has won the battle yet. The time to reflect is at the end."   | |||
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"The reason some of you have shit lives isn’t the governments fault, it’s yours. We’ve have all had access to a good education and a jobs market open to everyone. If you’ve not capitalised on it, then it’s your fault. But the government are saving lives. No country has won the battle yet. The time to reflect is at the end." Again with the ad hominems. How do you know anything about the lives of other people here? And what does it have to do with the government’s failure to address the impact of and the response to the coronavirus? | |||
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"The reason some of you have shit lives isn’t the governments fault, it’s yours. We’ve have all had access to a good education and a jobs market open to everyone. If you’ve not capitalised on it, then it’s your fault. But the government are saving lives. No country has won the battle yet. The time to reflect is at the end." My life has not been shit thanks, you seem to be suggesting from your high horse that there is some correlation between whom you think has or should have an opinion and that is based upon again your assumptions about others lives.. Who do you think you are? | |||
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"Yeah, cos anyone on a swinging site would have all the answers, and done what they believe to have been the right & proper thing from day one! Load of old bollox. The blame and anger should be directed toward the fuckers who inflicted this on the world in the first place, and who supplied the testing kits, initial issues of which were highly suspect. " Yes....apparently we have got a million antibodies test kits from China. Problem seems to be, like most stuff from China, they may not actually work.... | |||
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"The reason some of you have shit lives isn’t the governments fault, it’s yours. We’ve have all had access to a good education and a jobs market open to everyone. If you’ve not capitalised on it, then it’s your fault. But the government are saving lives. No country has won the battle yet. The time to reflect is at the end. Again with the ad hominems. How do you know anything about the lives of other people here? And what does it have to do with the government’s failure to address the impact of and the response to the coronavirus?" Tbf I don’t know why anyone is surprised by these comments isn’t that the Tory train of thought that poor people are to blame for being poor? They are totally deluded. Now I’m sure some people living in poverty perhaps made decisions they regret and therefore to a certain extent should hold some personal responsibility for the situation they find themselves in but to basically imply that everyone who is poor or has a shit life is to blame for their own ills is ridiculous | |||
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"Tbf I don’t know why anyone is surprised by these comments isn’t that the Tory train of thought that poor people are to blame for being poor? They are totally deluded. Now I’m sure some people living in poverty perhaps made decisions they regret and therefore to a certain extent should hold some personal responsibility for the situation they find themselves in but to basically imply that everyone who is poor or has a shit life is to blame for their own ills is ridiculous " I try to avoid partisanship where possible because I figure it illogical and too emotive. Tribalism is simply primitive. What I will say is that the belief that people have equal access to opportunity is a simple falsehood. | |||
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"https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2020/04/01/uk-company-forced-sell-coronavirus-test-kits-abroad-british-labs-cant-use-12493776/amp/ From what I understand that the tests could be available if we wanted, it's the Labs that is the problem. We are selling the tests to other countries" Yeah, I heard that. How can that be right?? | |||
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"Hindsight is wonderful. There’s always a we should have done this. It’s human nature. But nowadays everyone wants to hold someone to account for something. Life doesn’t always go well but it’s not always someone’s fault. We’ve all missed opportunities in life and regretted after. It’s the people obviously in council accommodation and not working that gets me. Happy enough to take from the government yet moan every step of the way about it. Like they are helping the situation in anyway. Their best bet would be get a job and free up some more money. A global pandemic being handled completely shambolicy and people on benefits in "council accommodation'are too blame. You couldnt make this shit up. " I'm waiting for the immigrants to be blamed next | |||
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"https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/01/ocado-buys-100000-coronavirus-testing-kits-staff-12493400/ And Ocado are testing staff. They had to import tests from china, £15 each. " That's great If they work, would you buy pharmaceuticals direct from China ? | |||
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"https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/01/ocado-buys-100000-coronavirus-testing-kits-staff-12493400/ And Ocado are testing staff. They had to import tests from china, £15 each. That's great If they work, would you buy pharmaceuticals direct from China ?" Yes, if those pharmaceuticals were the only deal in town because the government of my country had deliberately decided not to have any pharmaceuticals of their own, in order to allow the weak people to die. Because it would strengthen up the survivors. Lead to a healthier herd. | |||
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"https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/01/ocado-buys-100000-coronavirus-testing-kits-staff-12493400/ And Ocado are testing staff. They had to import tests from china, £15 each. That's great If they work, would you buy pharmaceuticals direct from China ? Yes, if those pharmaceuticals were the only deal in town because the government of my country had deliberately decided not to have any pharmaceuticals of their own, in order to allow the weak people to die. Because it would strengthen up the survivors. Lead to a healthier herd." So it would be ok for a load of people to wander around b cause they falsely test negative ? | |||
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"https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/01/ocado-buys-100000-coronavirus-testing-kits-staff-12493400/ And Ocado are testing staff. They had to import tests from china, £15 each. That's great If they work, would you buy pharmaceuticals direct from China ? Yes, if those pharmaceuticals were the only deal in town because the government of my country had deliberately decided not to have any pharmaceuticals of their own, in order to allow the weak people to die. Because it would strengthen up the survivors. Lead to a healthier herd." I agree with you but there is more to it than that. There is two other significant factors, first is the outsourcing of manufacturing that started 30 years ago. The other is just down to the US and UK being late to the party by their own choice. | |||
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"This is why I love it here. The people are so well informed. No point watching the news because Dave from Scunthorpe with his gcse in art, knows exactly where the doctors and the MPs are going wrong. " I know right. Just two weeks ago on a coronvirus thread someone posted 'It's just a cold unless you're ill, go out and enjoy yourself.' That someone was you. Is your name Dave, by any chance? | |||
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"I've a notion on what the problem is on this shambles. Basically it is a global market on buying kits which even a governor of one usa state said it was like competing on a ebay auction to get the required kit...as most of the US states are bidding against each other. Now the EU acted for all the member states and even give us a option to be part of it. But our bulldog Britain attitude rejected it in the misguided thought that we could do better on our own. So what happened was the EU bought up the vast majority of the testing kits..and reagents! Will boris and his bunch of weirdo's admit to this? Not a chance as it's our first major cockup of many more to come..." That's entirely possible | |||
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"Why we didn't start testing properly when we got our first confirmed case in January I'll never know. With SARS and MERS they were relatively localised in specific regions. So when Covid19 started jumping from country to country we should've taken it more seriously." Because around the time corona was breaking out in china...the Tories had just won a election and spent too much time celebrating with boris thinking he finally was king of the world. It caught them on the backstop  | |||
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"Why we didn't start testing properly when we got our first confirmed case in January I'll never know. With SARS and MERS they were relatively localised in specific regions. So when Covid19 started jumping from country to country we should've taken it more seriously. Because around the time corona was breaking out in china...the Tories had just won a election and spent too much time celebrating with boris thinking he finally was king of the world. It caught them on the backstop "Complete nonsense. | |||
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"Why we didn't start testing properly when we got our first confirmed case in January I'll never know. With SARS and MERS they were relatively localised in specific regions. So when Covid19 started jumping from country to country we should've taken it more seriously. Because around the time corona was breaking out in china...the Tories had just won a election and spent too much time celebrating with boris thinking he finally was king of the world. It caught them on the backstop
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"Why we didn't start testing properly when we got our first confirmed case in January I'll never know. With SARS and MERS they were relatively localised in specific regions. So when Covid19 started jumping from country to country we should've taken it more seriously. Because around the time corona was breaking out in china...the Tories had just won a election and spent too much time celebrating with boris thinking he finally was king of the world. It caught them on the backstop
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"I appreciate this is a huge crisis, but the complete mess the government has made of testing is dispicable. The lack of PPE is now costing front line staff their lives. I can understand if the government got it wrong, but time for honesty. The press conferences are also a joke, no questions property answered. I'm afraid we are being let down badly by our leaders at the moment. yeah but, Corbyn and Abbott handling this... c'mon, seriously? I'm sorry What's your point?" There isn't one. Whataboutery directed at people who are not making any crucial decisions in government right now. We've had an election and we now have a government...same one as the last ten years. | |||
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"Johnson and his cabinet have little experience of real life. They know how to make money but not much else. Even now, they're still bumbling about unable to do what's needed. Simply throwing out the slogan "get it done" is fine when you don't actually have to do something. " I totally agree it's all just getting made up on the hoof...it comes to something when all the press..yes all of of them have realised they havent a clue on how to handle this. | |||
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"The absolute drivel from Hancocks mouth on this press conference is unbelievable. "Mass Testing is key to unlocking the coronavirus puzzle and defeat it in the end" So why the fuck have you waited so long to start mass testing you div?" "level with us".... you basically meant you lied!!! he's basically giving the same promise Bojo did 2 weeks ago....with a much longer timeframe... basically the journo's called out the dude who did the briefing yesterday (by the day that bloke should never do one again, he was aweful!!!) | |||
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"The absolute drivel from Hancocks mouth on this press conference is unbelievable. "Mass Testing is key to unlocking the coronavirus puzzle and defeat it in the end" So why the fuck have you waited so long to start mass testing you div? "level with us".... you basically meant you lied!!! he's basically giving the same promise Bojo did 2 weeks ago....with a much longer timeframe... basically the journo's called out the dude who did the briefing yesterday (by the day that bloke should never do one again, he was aweful!!!)" The level of detail from Hancock and his delivery is much stronger than from any of the stand-ins in recent days. | |||
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"The governments approval rating is thirteen points higher than when they won the landslide election. The population are gathering behind a government they are seeing as doing a good job. They’ve never been more powerful. If anyone is going to get the country on a good footing after it’s going to be them. " I agree | |||
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"The governments approval rating is thirteen points higher than when they won the landslide election. The population are gathering behind a government they are seeing as doing a good job. They’ve never been more powerful. If anyone is going to get the country on a good footing after it’s going to be them. I agree " It's not the government that pisses me off its the so called experts, we have had 3 year's listening to their bullshit over Brexit now they are all over the place on this. The government can only go on what they say. | |||
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"Testing means nothing it's just done to make the government look good. If you test me today I could catch it tomorrow what's the point it's bullshit. " This is my exact thought aswell, what will increased testing do? Other than fill out the statistics. I could go get tested and after my swabs are taken I could walk into my workplace and catch it, this could make the test dangerous as now I think I'm clear when I'm not. assume everyone has it and take the necessary precautions like they said from the start that very few seem to listen to. The only test worth anything would be one that can show if you have had it in the past as then in theory you would be immune to this strain now. | |||
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"Why we didn't start testing properly when we got our first confirmed case in January I'll never know. With SARS and MERS they were relatively localised in specific regions. So when Covid19 started jumping from country to country we should've taken it more seriously." I suggest you go and watch Contagion and you will see it is down to a thing called a contagion coefficient. This thing has beaten borders further and faster than you can spit if you will forgive the pun. It's not spread in snot or spit. It's the droplets we cough and sneeze out, infact no it's worse than that, it's the air that we breath out, it is that infectious by the sounds of it. | |||
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"I am amazed they are getting away with the briefings, yesterday they didn't answer one question just babbled on about 'going forward' and wouldn't give any time frames How about some real facts, how many kits have we got, how many tests done today and the real reasons why testing is not happening Don’t forget the latest natty and memorable strapline- ‘Save the NHS’; it was like they were on a commission to mention that at every opportunity?!? And at the same time not provide enough PPE or tests for front line........ Boris Johnson shouldn’t be thrown out of office through a general election; the bastard should be held to account for manslaughter " .... stupidity shouldn’t be allowed to appear on forums. Manslaughter??? Do you think he has a magic wand ???? What a cretin staying manslaughter. | |||
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"Testing means nothing it's just done to make the government look good. If you test me today I could catch it tomorrow what's the point it's bullshit. " I'm sorry, but you are wrong. All the countries who have tested and carried out contact tracing have had far better results. | |||
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"Thank goodness there are some good people on this forum that recognises most of are all trying to do our best under very trying circumstances and being positive about something that no one could have predicted the outcomes of the twists and turns this virus is making people do. I thank goodness we have people in government trying to do something. Standing up and being strong and upright and showing great leadership. I wish this website had a like button as I'd like to agree with the positive, constructive peoples comments and a dislike button for the WUMS, conspiracy theorists and rabble rousers that seem to exist to break our moral. " I agree
Its disheartening to see on these threads blame being thrown around left right and centre, but not at the people who are actually to blame for for it, US.
Taking responsibility for ourselves and families and not spreading it further and further, lockdown is being laughed at and social distancing breaking is rife, I applaud the boris as he has asked us to cooperate, he could have said if you don't stay in I will make you stay in.
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"Testing means nothing it's just done to make the government look good. If you test me today I could catch it tomorrow what's the point it's bullshit. " Testing enables all covid19 patients to be isolated from those that don't have covid19 in our hospitals otherwise all patients will end up with it, it also allows staff to be more careful (not that they aren't already) because they know they are working with known cases, they can also eventually use staff who have had the virus to look after positive patients This is what the government are doing yet they are being called incompetent. | |||
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"The absolute drivel from Hancocks mouth on this press conference is unbelievable. "Mass Testing is key to unlocking the coronavirus puzzle and defeat it in the end" So why the fuck have you waited so long to start mass testing you div?" Because, sherlock there aren't any tests available they are being prioritised. Many are being validated but they are not available. Like on the BBC tonight no test is better than a false test. They will come eventually. | |||
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"The governments approval rating is thirteen points higher than when they won the landslide election. The population are gathering behind a government they are seeing as doing a good job. They’ve never been more powerful. If anyone is going to get the country on a good footing after it’s going to be them. " Don’t forget we can’t go out to vote! Who opens the post votes? | |||
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"Why we didn't start testing properly when we got our first confirmed case in January I'll never know. With SARS and MERS they were relatively localised in specific regions. So when Covid19 started jumping from country to country we should've taken it more seriously. I suggest you go and watch Contagion and you will see it is down to a thing called a contagion coefficient. This thing has beaten borders further and faster than you can spit if you will forgive the pun. It's not spread in snot or spit. It's the droplets we cough and sneeze out, infact no it's worse than that, it's the air that we breath out, it is that infectious by the sounds of it." Here's another thought for all you hindsighters and conspiracy theorists that think we could have stopped it in it's tracks. Even if the government had of stopped the virus in it's tracks on say 15th Feb, 20th Feb, 1st of March........ whenever that would have left 1 million Plus Brits stuck in other countries, busily getting infected because they were all crushed in together trying to escape. What would you do then ???, put 1 million of them into 14 days isolation, in Premier inns everywhere as they came back in dribs and drabs. Sure Whitbread would be very please with that. NOT.... Nope this is one for the long haul the moment that bloke in China caught it off his infected meat and it jumped species or however it got into the food chain. And yeah actually the government was right initially. Isn't the NHS a service for the patients. OK NHS people are now patients themselves so yeah test test test. Seems perfectly logical now to change track. | |||
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"Not testing for antibodies either " There aren't any tests available that works | |||
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"Because, sherlock there aren't any tests available they are being prioritised. Many are being validated but they are not available." Germany have the capacity for 500,000 people a week.The UK max at the moment is what 2000 3000? Why so inferior? South Korea & Italy have tested heavily too . Where are they getting these unavailable tests from? For context South Korea & Germany have tested the more than the current UK total today by March 6 & March 15 respectively. It's almost as if the decided to act early and try and get ahead of the curve. Meanwhile we're over here giving hers immunity a chance | |||
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"Why we didn't start testing properly when we got our first confirmed case in January I'll never know. With SARS and MERS they were relatively localised in specific regions. So when Covid19 started jumping from country to country we should've taken it more seriously. I suggest you go and watch Contagion and you will see it is down to a thing called a contagion coefficient. This thing has beaten borders further and faster than you can spit if you will forgive the pun. It's not spread in snot or spit. It's the droplets we cough and sneeze out, infact no it's worse than that, it's the air that we breath out, it is that infectious by the sounds of it. Here's another thought for all you hindsighters and conspiracy theorists that think we could have stopped it in it's tracks. Even if the government had of stopped the virus in it's tracks on say 15th Feb, 20th Feb, 1st of March........ whenever that would have left 1 million Plus Brits stuck in other countries, busily getting infected because they were all crushed in together trying to escape. What would you do then ???, put 1 million of them into 14 days isolation, in Premier inns everywhere as they came back in dribs and drabs. Sure Whitbread would be very please with that. NOT.... Nope this is one for the long haul the moment that bloke in China caught it off his infected meat and it jumped species or however it got into the food chain. And yeah actually the government was right initially. Isn't the NHS a service for the patients. OK NHS people are now patients themselves so yeah test test test. Seems perfectly logical now to change track. " Maybe it was whitbread who infected the meat? | |||
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"Because, sherlock there aren't any tests available they are being prioritised. Many are being validated but they are not available. Germany have the capacity for 500,000 people a week.The UK max at the moment is what 2000 3000? Why so inferior? South Korea & Italy have tested heavily too . Where are they getting these unavailable tests from? For context South Korea & Germany have tested the more than the current UK total today by March 6 & March 15 respectively. It's almost as if the decided to act early and try and get ahead of the curve. Meanwhile we're over here giving hers immunity a chance "They aren't using anti body tests Plus German company's make reagents so they get first dibs. We didn't reply to the email | |||
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"Testing means nothing it's just done to make the government look good. If you test me today I could catch it tomorrow what's the point it's bullshit. Testing enables all covid19 patients to be isolated from those that don't have covid19 in our hospitals otherwise all patients will end up with it, it also allows staff to be more careful (not that they aren't already) because they know they are working with known cases, they can also eventually use staff who have had the virus to look after positive patients This is what the government are doing yet they are being called incompetent." Firstly, testing allows you to isolate anyone who has tested positive, isolate them to reduce the chance of them infecting others and trace people they’ve been in contact with (hopefully only those they live with given lockdown) to have them self-isolate too. That then reduces the risk of new people becoming infected. The reason the government is coming under fire is because we have so far tested around 2,000 of our frontline health staff which is pitiful. | |||
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"Because, sherlock there aren't any tests available they are being prioritised. Many are being validated but they are not available. Germany have the capacity for 500,000 people a week.The UK max at the moment is what 2000 3000? Why so inferior? South Korea & Italy have tested heavily too . Where are they getting these unavailable tests from? For context South Korea & Germany have tested the more than the current UK total today by March 6 & March 15 respectively. It's almost as if the decided to act early and try and get ahead of the curve. Meanwhile we're over here giving hers immunity a chance
They aren't using anti body tests
Plus German company's make reagents so they get first dibs.
We didn't reply to the email"South Korea had an emergency plan from the mers debacle they endured, which they put into place immediately. This included instant test kit and ppe manufacture. | |||
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