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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude.

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By *otPrinceHarryMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

What are "our" views on freedom, that are so different from "yours?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What are "our" views on freedom, that are so different from "yours?""

There isn't a country on the planet that has the same freedom's we do. Why is it everyone is trying so hard to get in here, and not into the European nations or the UK. Problem were having currently is a bunch of democrats (socialistic asshats) want to turn this country into the third world shitholes they came from.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What are "our" views on freedom, that are so different from "yours?""

You take everything the government says as fact. It's a collective hive attitude. No individual thought process. We may have high covid outbreak but we like to live without government control.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What are "our" views on freedom, that are so different from "yours?"

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

We don't like the euro model of how a country should be. Like it or not we are the way we are. We like freedoms more then death. It is our choice.

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By *otPrinceHarryMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"You take everything the government says as fact."

No, we don't. You also seem to think that there is only one government in the whole of the UK, which I realise is a different concept for... ah, you're American. So you get it.

"It's a collective hive attitude. No individual thought process."

Explain how, please.

"We may have high covid outbreak but we like to live without government control."

Oh. Of course it's about Covid. Believe me, we have plenty of Covidiots on this side of the pond too. In fact the US and UK are probably far more similar than you'd imagine on the subject. We have a lot of science denialism here too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

""You take everything the government says as fact."

No, we don't. You also seem to think that there is only one government in the whole of the UK, which I realise is a different concept for... ah, you're American. So you get it.

"It's a collective hive attitude. No individual thought process."

Explain how, please.

"We may have high covid outbreak but we like to live without government control."

Really you shut down everything for what ? We like life the freedom of choice. You listen to experts on a virus that no one can truly claim that they are a expert. Families suffering for what government control on how you should live your life ?

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By *otPrinceHarryMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"There isn't a country on the planet that has the same freedom's we do."

*Freedoms. And I'd like a citation for that.

"Why is it everyone is trying so hard to get in here, and not into the European nations or the UK."

I'm guessing you're a right-winger. You should probably read up on what our right-wingers say. Because we are, apparantly, being inundated with refugees.

"Problem were having currently is a bunch of democrats (socialistic asshats) want to turn this country into the third world shitholes they came from."

The US Democratic party would be considered centre-right in most European countries. But I'm curious- what Democrats are you referring to? Which ones have come from "third world shithole" and intend to turn the US into such a "shihole?" And which of those countries was "socialist?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

UK guys willies look like ant eaters .

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"UK guys willies look like ant eaters . "

Lol

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

hahaha i dont belive a word the uk goverment say be they blue or red. be honest with you id say 95% of goverments are full of shit.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"hahaha i dont belive a word the uk goverment say be they blue or red. be honest with you id say 95% of goverments are full of shit."

Exactly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't really have freedom if COVID kills you, just saying

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By *ashy85Man
over a year ago

Waterford

Oh wait you can't cross the road here you will get done for J walking.....

Have to be over 21 to drink but 16 to own a gun

Oh black people don't leave your house a cop will shoot you...

Really and you are making comments about the UK and EU when your own country is in such a fucking mess people fighting each other over trump and Biden

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What are "our" views on freedom, that are so different from "yours?"

You take everything the government says as fact. It's a collective hive attitude. No individual thought process. We may have high covid outbreak but we like to live without government control. "

Thats why you have a high covid outbreak.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What are "our" views on freedom, that are so different from "yours?"

You take everything the government says as fact. It's a collective hive attitude. No individual thought process. We may have high covid outbreak but we like to live without government control.

Thats why you have a high covid outbreak. "

Exactly because we like freedom of movement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh wait you can't cross the road here you will get done for J walking.....

Have to be over 21 to drink but 16 to own a gun

Oh black people don't leave your house a cop will shoot you...

Really and you are making comments about the UK and EU when your own country is in such a fucking mess people fighting each other over trump and Biden

If your asked to stop or any order by a cop , you do it. Something is going on in the area and they are responding. But stupid people (black and white) argue and fight and end up getting shot. Or sometimes people get caught in the crossfire.

Yes you have to be 21 to drink in the US. Gun ownership is legally 16 but I had a rifle at 10. I knew gun safety and responsibility before that. "Black" people as you put it go anywhere they want whenever they want

The looters, and anarchist are a mixture of people. (Antifa, BLM) who want nothing more than to make trouble. Tell me what the hell a 75" tv has to do with someone's rights being infringed on. Or burning down a minority-owned and run store.

Also were not fighting over trump vs Biden. Nothing has been done yet. The democrats has created a narrative that says the Republicans are going to do this. But its not happening. We're going to keep going day by day. Everything you seem to believe or see on TV is one sided (one way or the other) there is no news. Its opnion everywhere

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh wait you can't cross the road here you will get done for J walking.....

Have to be over 21 to drink but 16 to own a gun

Oh black people don't leave your house a cop will shoot you...

Really and you are making comments about the UK and EU when your own country is in such a fucking mess people fighting each other over trump and Biden

21 to drink

18 to have a fire arm.

All of a sudden election over no one getting shot by police.

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By *ashy85Man
over a year ago

Waterford

"Oh wait you can't cross the road here you will get done for J walking.....

Have to be over 21 to drink but 16 to own a gun

Oh black people don't leave your house a cop will shoot you...

Really and you are making comments about the UK and EU when your own country is in such a fucking mess people fighting each other over trump and Biden

21 to drink

18 to have a fire arm.

All of a sudden election over no one getting shot by police."

I know people who live in the states and laws are different in each state so I'm right about being 16 for a firearm. Yes election is over that doesn't mean things just vanished or stopped

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Ive worked in the usa and holidayed there in the past and think its a great country.Its up to people to vote how they like and carry guns if thats what the majority want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the government is so worried about people dyeing , why do they let people smoke ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Oh wait you can't cross the road here you will get done for J walking.....

Have to be over 21 to drink but 16 to own a gun

Oh black people don't leave your house a cop will shoot you...

Really and you are making comments about the UK and EU when your own country is in such a fucking mess people fighting each other over trump and Biden

21 to drink

18 to have a fire arm.

All of a sudden election over no one getting shot by police.

I know people who live in the states and laws are different in each state so I'm right about being 16 for a firearm. Yes election is over that doesn't mean things just vanished or stopped "

The Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA), which regulates firearms at the federal level, requires that citizens and legal residents must be at least 18 years of age to purchase shotguns or rifles and ammunition. All other firearms — handguns, for example — can only be sold to people 21 and older.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"hahaha i dont belive a word the uk goverment say be they blue or red. be honest with you id say 95% of goverments are full of shit."

Couldn’t agree with you more.

If people still believe that Doris Johnson and that idiot sidekick Matt Hancock really are in charge of running the UK, you ought to self-isolate for the rest of your days.

Ruining livelihoods, crippling businesses, forcing people to stay away from your nearest and dearest, putting massive amounts of stress and strain on families, and all for a virus that has something like a 98% survival/recovery rate.

Happy Christmas to our swinging Americans too x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Except Maine minnesota and vermont.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

When you have 2000 cars waiting in line at food banks. Just to help families survive. There is a bigger issue then the virus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When you have 2000 cars waiting in line at food banks. Just to help families survive. There is a bigger issue then the virus."

Again, I agree.

The explosion of ‘food banks’ here in the UK over the last 12-18 months is phenomenal, but let’s all forget about the poverty and all other associated illnesses and let’s instead focus on closing all independent businesses and keep the huge internationals open and thriving instead.

The virus is here to stay so how about we all focus on just being sensible and get left alone to live our own lives rather than be dictated to be these corrupt politicians.

Can’t stand any of them myself..all pigs with noses firmly in the trough and puppets for the Higher Order

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"When you have 2000 cars waiting in line at food banks. Just to help families survive. There is a bigger issue then the virus.

Again, I agree.

The virus is here to stay so how about we all focus on just being sensible and get left alone to live our own lives rather than be dictated to be these corrupt politicians.

Can’t stand any of them myself..all pigs with noses firmly in the trough and puppets for the Higher Order "

Now you know why US is not currently in a lockdown. Different states. Different governors. Ones that believe that the solution in lockdowns is going to be worse then the virus for small businesses. Atm there is no balanced solutions.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"What are "our" views on freedom, that are so different from "yours?"

You take everything the government says as fact. It's a collective hive attitude. No individual thought process. We may have high covid outbreak but we like to live without government control. "

Perhaps we’re not so selfish? We have a more advanced sense of responsibility and social conscience. Bit more grown up perhaps?

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I think you have to look at the way America was founded (Pilgrims emigrating etc) and the way America grew (Wild West etc).

America grew out of pioneering, adventurous and Frontiersmanship origins. The type of people who thrived in this environment would have been independent, single minded, confident. I think this explains a bit why Americans tend to be more outgoing than other nations, more natural showmanship and a greater desire for individual freedoms and liberties. I think an example of the last point is the hyper Capitalistic economic model and the attitudes towards healthcare, specifically a free at point of delivery service (such as the NHS of the UK)

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think you have to look at the way America was founded (Pilgrims emigrating etc) and the way America grew (Wild West etc).

Exactly this is one of the reasons why covid rates are so high. It's a social issue.

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By *ichi_acerMan
over a year ago

notts

"We don't like the euro model of how a country should be. Like it or not we are the way we are. We like freedoms more then death. It is our choice."

We don’t like the eu that’s why we voted to leave

They are just blood sucking ticks that help themselves to our money and fish

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By *apunzel the CocksuckerWoman
over a year ago

Here

"What are "our" views on freedom, that are so different from "yours?"

You take everything the government says as fact. It's a collective hive attitude. No individual thought process. We may have high covid outbreak but we like to live without government control.

Perhaps we’re not so selfish? We have a more advanced sense of responsibility and social conscience. Bit more grown up perhaps? "

The abundance of homeless people food banks and a plethora of assholes over there says the total opposite you don't even want to let the Scottish go free.

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By *ichi_acerMan
over a year ago

notts

An independent Scotland would last about an hour before it was bankrupt they are financially dependent on England the same as Welsh and Irish

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

The migrant camp at Calais and the thousands of immigrants desperate to get into Europe would certainly disagree with

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"There isn't a country on the planet that has the same freedom's we do. Why is it everyone is trying so hard to get in here, and not into the European nations or the UK. Problem were having currently is a bunch of democrats (socialistic asshats) want to turn this country into the third world shitholes they came from."

Not all people in England think or feel the same, as I'm sure is true of everyone in the states.

As for Scotland, if they want to leave the UK I think it's their call and I wouldn't object. (Until they start removing actual land at the borders then I'd have environmental concerns

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By *oss.Man
over a year ago

Dublin

Dublin here

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By *mooth Operator 07Man
over a year ago

in the deep mist of the valleys

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude."

My cousins live in different states in the US and although there are different laws etc. One thing they could not define is what is freedom for a black, native or people of colour Americans. I struggle to understand what is freedom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What are "our" views on freedom, that are so different from "yours?"

You take everything the government says as fact. It's a collective hive attitude. No individual thought process. We may have high covid outbreak but we like to live without government control. "

I think you're mistaken.

UK is full of dissent. We have a long history of protest and civil disobedience.

For some examples:

- Coal miners strikes in the 80s

- Extinction Rebellion

- Protesting the Iraq war

Etc etc.

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By *o Trash in My TrailerMan
over a year ago

Daytona Beach

"The migrant camp at Calais and the thousands of immigrants desperate to get into Europe would certainly disagree with

Calais is in Europe so that makes no sense. They are ALREADY IN EUROPE IN THE CAMPS!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What are "our" views on freedom, that are so different from "yours?"

You take everything the government says as fact. It's a collective hive attitude. No individual thought process. We may have high covid outbreak but we like to live without government control.

I think you're mistaken.

UK is full of dissent. We have a long history of protest and civil disobedience.

For some examples:

- Coal miners strikes in the 80s

- Extinction Rebellion

- Protesting the Iraq war

Etc etc. "

Correct......the British have a long history of a lot of things but maybe I’m going off topic cause I’m Irish !

But Let’s not start that debate off !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"hahaha i dont belive a word the uk goverment say be they blue or red. be honest with you id say 95% of goverments are full of shit."

Wer just lucky over here we have like 5 ministers !

And they just duke it out in a barn yard to see wat laws get passed and so forth !

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

"The migrant camp at Calais and the thousands of immigrants desperate to get into Europe would certainly disagree with

Calais is in Europe so that makes no sense. They are ALREADY IN EUROPE IN THE CAMPS!

There isn't thousands of people in camps in Calais anymore. Yes they were/are in Europe but desperately trying to get into the UK,

There are thousands of people from Tunisia, Syria and other non EU countries risking their lives desperately trying to get into any European country. Lots of them in camps near borders but not yet on EU soil.

There are thousands already in camps on the Greek islands and it's still causing issues between Greek & Turkey (just one example)

Hence I used the word 'and'

to highlight there are people desperately trying to get into the EU, but, also even having made it to the EU they still try to get across and into U.K.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why can't Americans understand socialism? Why are you so scared of everything?

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

"Why can't Americans understand socialism? Why are you so scared of everything? "

British were scared of socialism (particularly socialists themselves) for a long time

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why can't Americans understand socialism? Why are you so scared of everything? "

No thanks happy the way we are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why can't Americans understand socialism? Why are you so scared of everything?

No thanks happy the way we are.

That’s gotta be sarcastic that obviously can’t be true

ok relax breath in ...........I’m only kidding don’t jump down my neck.ha I’ve seen some of your posts!! And na i don’t want any of that thanks

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By *onton MacouteMan
over a year ago

Phoenix

"Why can't Americans understand socialism? Why are you so scared of everything? "

What abject poverty nothing in the shops and starvation? No thanks why would we want to go backwards.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why can't Americans understand socialism? Why are you so scared of everything?

What abject poverty nothing in the shops and starvation? No thanks why would we want to go backwards. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry but if you can afford to run a car you perhaps don't require a foodbank.

Yet again a citizen of country where only 25% have a passport and only half of those have ever used them equates their own lives upon a world they have never even tried to understand and believe their own piss and importance.

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By *on Of DetroitMan
over a year ago

Detroit

"Sorry but if you can afford to run a car you perhaps don't require a foodbank.

Why do you need to travel overseas when we have a country bigger than Europe just another no mark country bumpkin living in a colonial past.

And if you are quoting figures at least get them right you look a fool making them up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why can't Americans understand socialism? Why are you so scared of everything?

What abject poverty nothing in the shops and starvation? No thanks why would we want to go backwards. "

This is pretty funny.

Responding to a question about why you don't understand socialism, by demonstrating that you don't know anything about socialism.

Bravo.

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By *on Of DetroitMan
over a year ago

Detroit

"Why can't Americans understand socialism? Why are you so scared of everything?

What abject poverty nothing in the shops and starvation? No thanks why would we want to go backwards. "

A detrimental step going backwards I don't think we really need it. You only have to look at the worlds 2 biggest socialist experiments ended up in leaders killing and imprisoning millions of citizens who didn't agree with their politics. Only a dumbfuck idiot would want that.

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By *arry BlockMan
over a year ago

Here and there

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude."

They are used to tipping their cap to an antiquated system of lords and ladies and kissing ass.

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By *o Trash in My TrailerMan
over a year ago

Daytona Beach

No we got to see Big Joe in action leader of the biggest socialist clusterfuck ever what was it 15 -30 million of his own citizens killed? We sure don't want that even the Russians gave up on that shit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Why can't Americans understand socialism? Why are you so scared of everything?

What abject poverty nothing in the shops and starvation? No thanks why would we want to go backwards.

see what I mean, not a clue.

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By *ugget O CassMan
over a year ago

Salt lake

"No we got to see Big Joe in action leader of the biggest socialist clusterfuck ever what was it 15 -30 million of his own citizens killed? We sure don't want that even the Russians gave up on that shit."

Socialists always try to avoid the death rates in socialist countries by the people who are supposedly there for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I humbly apologise, since you ignorant fecks voted in Agent Orange the stats say 42% now have passports (possibly for a quick getaway should he have gained a 2nd term)

As for being a country bumpkin I spent most of my adult life in London and moved back to my home area which is an industrial conurbation (Google it) I cannot possibly be a 'No Mark' as I was christened 'Mark' Now get back to making imaginary cars with the Trump having revitalised the motor city???? NOT!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I humbly apologise, since you ignorant fecks voted in Agent Orange the stats say 42% now have passports (possibly for a quick getaway should he have gained a 2nd term)

We have real ID which is our passport. Eventually all US citizens with a driver's license has a passport. I have been pretty much all over the world that being said there is no place like home.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

"I humbly apologise, since you ignorant fecks voted in Agent Orange the stats say 42% now have passports (possibly for a quick getaway should he have gained a 2nd term)

We have real ID which is our passport. Eventually all US citizens with a driver's license has a passport. I have been pretty much all over the world that being said there is no place like home."
that's exactly what Dorothy said , there's no place like home

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I humbly apologise, since you ignorant fecks voted in Agent Orange the stats say 42% now have passports (possibly for a quick getaway should he have gained a 2nd term)

We have real ID which is our passport. Eventually all US citizens with a driver's license has a passport. I have been pretty much all over the world that being said there is no place like home.that's exactly what Dorothy said , there's no place like home

Exactly ruby red slippers and all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude."

Yup. You hit it on the head. Britain, and even more Scotland, take better care of their people collectively instead of letting a dog eat dog approach.

Speaking as someone who grew up dirt poor in a small town in America and now lives in Scotland, it’s freeing not having to worry that an unexpected medical bill will bankrupt you or that the government is close enough to the people and not ruled by big money (dog eat dog and all) for me to have a say in what/how they do things. The quality of life is miles better America for those in the middle class and lower. Good education, good social safety net and good people instead of self-centred, self-serving assholes ruining it for the rest of us and calling it “freedom”

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude.

Yup. You hit it on the head. Britain, and even more Scotland, take better care of their people collectively instead of letting a dog eat dog approach.

And yet we have to sit at the head of the table on the world stage. The money and costs defending world interests could be better spent on American people not nato don't you think ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Victory may be asking a lot. Since 1945, the United States has very rarely achieved meaningful victory. The United States has fought five major wars — Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan — and only the Gulf War in 1991 can really be classified as a clear success.15 Feb 2018

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Victory may be asking a lot. Since 1945, the United States has very rarely achieved meaningful victory. The United States has fought five major wars — Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Iraq, Afghanistan — and only the Gulf War in 1991 can really be classified as a clear success.15 Feb 2018"

And yet we have to protect other countries while doing said wars because of a commitment to Nato. IMO we don't need Nato it is a cash cow that can be spent elsewhere.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Sorry but if you can afford to run a car you perhaps don't require a foodbank.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And you part created nato with Canada and a few euro countries

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"And you part created nato with Canada and a few euro countries "

Right so what's the point of staying in nato Everyone bitches US people are idiots and suffering but the same defense budget protecting other countries can be better spent here.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

"And you part created nato with Canada and a few euro countries "

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"And you part created nato with Canada and a few euro countries

Right so what's the point of staying in nato Everyone bitches US people are idiots and suffering but the same defense budget protecting other countries can be better spent here. "
What would you spend it on you do not believe in free health,social benefits etc?

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

"And you part created nato with Canada and a few euro countries

Right so what's the point of staying in nato Everyone bitches US people are idiots and suffering but the same defense budget protecting other countries can be better spent here. What would you spend it on you do not believe in free health,social benefits etc?"
giving bleach to the chickens and the people of course

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"And you part created nato with Canada and a few euro countries

Social programs would benefit from 800 billion.

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I lived in both countries,the US isn't how TV portrays it,it's very run down and remote,90% of the people are poor as fuck! and the freedom part is you live miles from anything and nobody cares or can be bothered to know you.

Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

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"I lived in both countries,the US isn't how TV portrays it,it's very run down and remote,90% of the people are poor as fuck! and the freedom part is you live miles from anything and nobody cares or can be bothered to know you.

Brits are miserable because the weather is shit."

Yes and money can be better spent on infrastructure and better social programs like the rest of the world. Time for us to take care care of our own. America first.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

First thing you need to do is remove the muppet from the white House and return to Disney land

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over a year ago

"First thing you need to do is remove the muppet from the white House and return to Disney land"

I agree and the new muppet is no better. When he says we have to take our seat at the head of the table in international problems and policies. That is putting the world first over our interests.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

Yes and money can be better spent on infrastructure and better social programs like the rest of the world. Time for us to take care care of our own. America first."
I thought ur agolf twittler had been putting America first for the last 4 yrs ? Didn't he cut it ?

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Probably puts a few more dollars in his back pocket the American way.

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over a year ago

Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

Yes and money can be better spent on infrastructure and better social programs like the rest of the world. Time for us to take care care of our own. America first.I thought ur agolf twittler had been putting America first for the last 4 yrs ? Didn't he cut it ? "

We need to think more america first and not worry about global issues. Seems the rest of the world are more concerned about themselves so we should do the same. Straighten everything out here first. Trump tried and failed now we are going back to the global stage. Need better leaders.

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Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

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over a year ago

My point is I don't want families to go to war or get deployed just to save the world when there is issues that can be taken care here at home. Seen it been there it's moot. Like I said america first.

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over a year ago

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Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

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over a year ago

doncaster

"My point is I don't want families to go to war or get deployed just to save the world when there is issues that can be taken care here at home. Seen it been there it's moot. Like I said america first. "
ever thought of running for president ?

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Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

Name 1 that spends more then the US on international interests.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

Name 1 that spends more then the US on international interests."
the EU

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over a year ago

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Giving thanks to the English pilgrims of 1621 for a bumper harvest shared with the natives but continue to berate us even now lol , makes me giggle

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Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

Name 1 that spends more then the US on international interests.the EU "

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over a year ago

doncaster

Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

Name 1 that spends more then the US on international interests.the EU

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over a year ago

The best thing to come out of America is the Virgin atlantic or ba 747 back to Heathrow lol

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over a year ago

Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

Name 1 that spends more then the US on international interests.the EU

No hubby and I both x military we take a globalist approach on things. We been there done that and have the scars. We don't want future generations dealing with this when there is problems at home .

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

Name 1 that spends more then the US on international interests.the EU

You have 2 France and UK operational carriers to project world peace. We have 43 they don't operate for free do they? So don't you think we can cut operational costs to please how you perceive how americans are ? You know the evil people that trying to put america first in your eyes. Like I said it can be better spent on us I stead of global interests like you clearly wish."
we had an empire , something you won't ever have and we have about 53 counties in the commonwealth , the Brits have helped the world more than you can ever imagine , good and bad but we still support the counties worse off than us and we manage to give a decent lifestyle to the public of the UK !

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over a year ago

Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

Name 1 that spends more then the US on international interests.the EU

You have 2 France and UK operational carriers to project world peace. We have 43 they don't operate for free do they? So don't you think we can cut operational costs to please how you perceive how americans are ? You know the evil people that trying to put america first in your eyes. Like I said it can be better spent on us I stead of global interests like you clearly wish.we had an empire , something you won't ever have and we have about 53 counties in the commonwealth , the Brits have helped the world more than you can ever imagine , good and bad but we still support the counties worse off than us and we manage to give a decent lifestyle to the public of the UK ! "

Correct at your cost of global power projection. We need to do the same. You had the best navy now it's is a fraction of it once was. We at that tipping point now time to pass the mantle don't you think ?

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over a year ago

doncaster

Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

Name 1 that spends more then the US on international interests.the EU

You have 2 France and UK operational carriers to project world peace. We have 43 they don't operate for free do they? So don't you think we can cut operational costs to please how you perceive how americans are ? You know the evil people that trying to put america first in your eyes. Like I said it can be better spent on us I stead of global interests like you clearly wish.we had an empire , something you won't ever have and we have about 53 counties in the commonwealth , the Brits have helped the world more than you can ever imagine , good and bad but we still support the counties worse off than us and we manage to give a decent lifestyle to the public of the UK !

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over a year ago

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Agolf twittler has put you all to the top of Thier hit list , you ought to start learning mandarin lol

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over a year ago

Brits are miserable because the weather is shit.

Name 1 that spends more then the US on international interests.the EU

You have 2 France and UK operational carriers to project world peace. We have 43 they don't operate for free do they? So don't you think we can cut operational costs to please how you perceive how americans are ? You know the evil people that trying to put america first in your eyes. Like I said it can be better spent on us I stead of global interests like you clearly wish.we had an empire , something you won't ever have and we have about 53 counties in the commonwealth , the Brits have helped the world more than you can ever imagine , good and bad but we still support the counties worse off than us and we manage to give a decent lifestyle to the public of the UK !

Agreed but they won't be invading us it's impossible. Not when practically everyone has a gun. Like Yamamoto said a sniper behind every blade of grass. 2nd amendment.

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over a year ago

But none of you can answer that question do we turn our backs on the rest of the world just to appease the world outlook on us.

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By *unilinqwist69Man
over a year ago

Manchester

"The migrant camp at Calais and the thousands of immigrants desperate to get into Europe would certainly disagree with

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Not all people in England think or feel the same, as I'm sure is true of everyone in the states.

As for Scotland, if they want to leave the UK I think it's their call and I wouldn't object. (Until they start removing actual land at the borders then I'd have environmental concerns

All them immigrants want 2 come here coz 'not so GREAT BRITAIN' has gone soft, we're losing all our traditions & our beliefs all becoz we might offend someone,

HOW DO YOU KNOW WHEN A POLITICIANS LIEING ??

THEIR LIPS R MOVING !!!

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"But none of you can answer that question do we turn our backs on the rest of the world just to appease the world outlook on us. "

I don't think the rest of the world sees your foreign policy as "helping", it's more destabilising and disruptive.

The US has by far the biggest defence budget in the world. If I was from there I would definitely want that reduced and more funds allocated to healthcare, infrastructure, social welfare, support for those who are most vulnerable in society etc

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By *illi3736Woman
over a year ago

Glasgow

The USA has always put itself first. Every president every time. Strategic wars ,protection of oil interests, political ideologies.In WW2 the isolationist movement was very much against involving the U S in the war against fascism,like the views being expressed by some on here today.

It was probably the last "Just war " a fight that had to be fought.

Also the USA charged the UK for all help with armaments etc. A bill we eventually paid off in 2006.

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By *rnywxmMan
over a year ago

near you

Wow what a great generalisation. That’s like saying all Americans are fat because of the amount of sugar that’s in everything or that all Americans are dumb because of the southern states.

Now. Let’s get to the pandemic side of things which you brought up.

Yes we have had 2 lock downs, Wales did 2 weeks, England 4, Scotland I can’t remember and Northern Ireland keeps adding weeks on (yes, 4 countries make up the U.K., it’s not a single place). When this pandemic started I made my own choices, masks weren’t mandatory yet I wore one. Before lockdown it wasn’t mentioned about increasing hygiene in businesses yet I started cleaning after every person using hospital grade anti viral products. I refused to allow anyone in my home before lockdown started. I took the initiative when re Opening my business to put extra precautions in place way before the government gave their points and went way way beyond what the government asked for.

I did this because I care about my family, I want to protect them over anything else.

Have you ever wondered what others think of your government? Up to now the U.K. and most of the world has been laughing at you because of trump and his crazy mind. He really doesn’t care about you, he cares about his pocket. Now we’re laughing because of Biden. Isn’t it embarrassing to have 8 years of people who are on the brink of going to the grave, who are too old to look forward and keep looking at the past?

So before you start generalising and laughing at the U.K. I suggest you take a look at your own home and get it in order first as it’s a sorry mess right now.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

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It was probably the last "Just war " a fight that had to be fought.

I would be inclined to say that Korea (1950-1953) was a "Just War" too, this was American led with UN assistance.

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TBH as an Englishman I would think that our colonial past should remain as a reminder, nothing else, of a tyranny against a world that was conquered by a small % of rich capitalist bastards.

I am minded of a convo with an Oirish Chap in Skibbereen who informed me that I was the potato famine and I should be ashamed?

I pointed out that my ancestors in 1845 were lead miners and earned about enough to survive but, if injured or sick, were not paid and eventually evicted to the street.

I was last in the US for 3 months in 2015 and I was aghast at the amount of homeless folk, not in cities but rural places in WI and MN to name but two.

Before you start claiming you need to use your GDP to look after your own may I suggest that a welfare state and healthcare be at the top of the tree when you decommission your Aircraft carriers.

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"But none of you can answer that question do we turn our backs on the rest of the world just to appease the world outlook on us.

I don't think the rest of the world sees your foreign policy as "helping", it's more destabilising and disruptive.

I agree now we having a incoming president telling us it's time we sit at the head of the table on the world stage. That signals more foreign policies. We traded one idiot for another.

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over a year ago

doncaster

"But none of you can answer that question do we turn our backs on the rest of the world just to appease the world outlook on us.

I don't think the rest of the world sees your foreign policy as "helping", it's more destabilising and disruptive.

I agree now we having a incoming president telling us it's time we sit at the head of the table on the world stage. That signals more foreign policies. We traded one idiot for another."
it beggers belief that such a huge country only had 2 old men to choose from , give Kamala the chair !

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"But none of you can answer that question do we turn our backs on the rest of the world just to appease the world outlook on us.

I don't think the rest of the world sees your foreign policy as "helping", it's more destabilising and disruptive.

I agree now we having a incoming president telling us it's time we sit at the head of the table on the world stage. That signals more foreign policies. We traded one idiot for another."

I feel your frustration.

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"But none of you can answer that question do we turn our backs on the rest of the world just to appease the world outlook on us.

I don't think the rest of the world sees your foreign policy as "helping", it's more destabilising and disruptive.

I agree now we having a incoming president telling us it's time we sit at the head of the table on the world stage. That signals more foreign policies. We traded one idiot for another.

I feel your frustration."

I just don't want to see friends and family go back to Syria iraq and afghanistan. It's is frustrating.

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"But none of you can answer that question do we turn our backs on the rest of the world just to appease the world outlook on us.

I don't think the rest of the world sees your foreign policy as "helping", it's more destabilising and disruptive.

I agree now we having a incoming president telling us it's time we sit at the head of the table on the world stage. That signals more foreign policies. We traded one idiot for another.

I feel your frustration.

I just don't want to see friends and family go back to Syria iraq and afghanistan. It's is frustrating."

100%

And Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan don't want them there either.

But war generates $$$$

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"But none of you can answer that question do we turn our backs on the rest of the world just to appease the world outlook on us.

I don't think the rest of the world sees your foreign policy as "helping", it's more destabilising and disruptive.

I agree now we having a incoming president telling us it's time we sit at the head of the table on the world stage. That signals more foreign policies. We traded one idiot for another.

I feel your frustration.

I just don't want to see friends and family go back to Syria iraq and afghanistan. It's is frustrating.

100%

And Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan don't want them there either.

But war generates $$$$"

Yup and joe wants to pursue it. It's going to be a never ending cycle.

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"But none of you can answer that question do we turn our backs on the rest of the world just to appease the world outlook on us.

I don't think the rest of the world sees your foreign policy as "helping", it's more destabilising and disruptive.

I agree now we having a incoming president telling us it's time we sit at the head of the table on the world stage. That signals more foreign policies. We traded one idiot for another.

I feel your frustration.

I just don't want to see friends and family go back to Syria iraq and afghanistan. It's is frustrating.

100%

And Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan don't want them there either.

But war generates $$$$

Yup and joe wants to pursue it. It's going to be a never ending cycle."

This is not a problem specific to the US.

The system isn't working for the people.

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"But none of you can answer that question do we turn our backs on the rest of the world just to appease the world outlook on us.

I don't think the rest of the world sees your foreign policy as "helping", it's more destabilising and disruptive.

I agree now we having a incoming president telling us it's time we sit at the head of the table on the world stage. That signals more foreign policies. We traded one idiot for another.

I feel your frustration.

I just don't want to see friends and family go back to Syria iraq and afghanistan. It's is frustrating.

100%

And Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan don't want them there either.

But war generates $$$$

Yup and joe wants to pursue it. It's going to be a never ending cycle.

This is not a problem specific to the US.

The system isn't working for the people."

Agreed other people just can't comprehend the magnitude.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"UK guys willies look like ant eaters . "
did you really use the word willies on a swingers site lmfao

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over a year ago

Yes I thought that’s what the women in England called them . Women don’t like to use the word cock . So I thought

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"Yes I thought that’s what the women in England called them . Women don’t like to use the word cock . So I thought "

You're meeting the wrong women.

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Plenty of crack whores

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By *uninlondonMan
over a year ago

London

Global issues can very rapidly become American issues. We forget the lessons of history all too quickly.

If NATO is so defunct why did the US enact Article 5 and drag everyone else into wars largely of their own creation?

Like it or not, you rely on NATO for your own internal security. We all do.

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over a year ago

"Global issues can very rapidly become American issues. We forget the lessons of history all too quickly.

If NATO is so defunct why did the US enact Article 5 and drag everyone else into wars largely of their own creation?

Like it or not, you rely on NATO for your own internal security. We all do."

How so ? What wrong with cutting our defense spending. Surely you can agree it can be better spent. How is NATO supplying us with internal security ?? I see no blue hats here ?

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By *uninlondonMan
over a year ago

London

The UN and NATO are completely separate entities. They perform totally different duties.

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over a year ago

"The UN and NATO are completely separate entities. They perform totally different duties."

I see no nato troops providing the US with internal security.

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By *uninlondonMan
over a year ago

London

Then one could argue that it is serving its purpose.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/here-s-why-the-united-states-needs-nato/

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over a year ago

It's really not.

https://www.independent.org/news/article.asp?id=3343

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Kynarick and Blu know their stuff and are sexxxy as hell .

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over a year ago

"Kynarick and Blu know their stuff and are sexxxy as hell . "

Lol

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By *ac995Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Common Guys give the U.S.A a chance!

It’s still a developing country!

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over a year ago

"Common Guys give the U.S.A a chance!

It’s still a developing country!

Yes our technological

break throughs are just beginning.

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

Come on everyone- let’s stop taking pot shots at each other. There is more that unites than divides us. We both have our challenges but a great deal of shared interests and culture.

Make love not war - we are all swingers here for fucks sake!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think Brits are very laid back.

They put up with pension cuts, tax rises and lately lockdowns.

Look what happens in France for example. Try that shit and they all get together and start smashing things up in mass demonstrations.

They even started burning BMW's in the streets lol.

They clearly won't put up with bull or loss of rights but in the UK people just do nothing and the few that do never will have the numbers behind them for change.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Us brits just crack on no point crying about shit happening life’s to short we just look forward to the weekends to hit the pubs in town lol

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over a year ago

"Us brits just crack on no point crying about shit happening life’s to short we just look forward to the weekends to hit the pubs in town lol"

Why complicate things right ?especially in an already really complicated world crises we are all going through are own problems !

Won’t lie it’s been interesting looking at this thread but bottom line I agree I just want the clubs/_estivals and sessions to start back up ! !

Some of us are easily pleased I suppose !

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By *REEPALESTINEMan
over a year ago

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What’s so different someone explain please

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By (user no longer on site)
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"What’s so different someone explain please "

Which comment you directing that at ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"What’s so different someone explain please "

Just ranting against your government imposed lockdown. The consensus seems all of you are happy with it.

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over a year ago

"What’s so different someone explain please

Just ranting against your government imposed lockdown. The consensus seems all of you are happy with it."

You’s love opening back up pandora’s Box !

I’ll sit back and crack open another can

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Bottom line you see covid cases rising because the majority of Americans are treating this virus for what it is. Not because of this politician or that one. By now you know we don't take our government control lightly. We like our freedoms and that is the issue. Biden not going to solve this no politician is we either deal with it or die trying. It's that simple. Sorry for being so cavalier about it. Just can't see living a sheltered life. You know us damn asshole ignorant americans not going to change.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Love you a for the input to each is own. Life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Merry Xmas.

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over a year ago

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"Bottom line you see covid cases rising because the majority of Americans are treating this virus for what it is. Not because of this politician or that one. By now you know we don't take our government control lightly. We like our freedoms and that is the issue. Biden not going to solve this no politician is we either deal with it or die trying. It's that simple. Sorry for being so cavalier about it. Just can't see living a sheltered life. You know us damn asshole ignorant americans not going to change."

God damn yanks !

jokes aside do you think we are all huddled up in are thatch roof houses with are coal fire on not stepping outside the door for fear of

Covid ???Im speaking of us irish people here !

We are out doing the same things you guys are doing !

most of us don’t give a shit !

Especially at this stage !

You ain’t been to cavalier ! I get ur perspective and Wer all sick of this ! but there’s no you and us on this topic !

Wer all stuck in the same boat !

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God damn yanks !

jokes aside do you think we are all huddled up in are thatch roof houses with are coal fire on not stepping outside the door for fear of

Covid ???Im speaking of us irish people here !

We are out doing the same things you guys are doing !

most of us don’t give a shit !

Especially at this stage !

You ain’t been to cavalier ! I get ur perspective and Wer all sick of this ! but there’s no you and us on this topic !

Wer all stuck in the same boat !

Agreed but one boat is the titanic and the other the uss enterprise. Guess history will tell. Freedom of choice.

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over a year ago

God damn yanks !

jokes aside do you think we are all huddled up in are thatch roof houses with are coal fire on not stepping outside the door for fear of

Covid ???Im speaking of us irish people here !

We are out doing the same things you guys are doing !

most of us don’t give a shit !

Especially at this stage !

You ain’t been to cavalier ! I get ur perspective and Wer all sick of this ! but there’s no you and us on this topic !

Wer all stuck in the same boat !

Sorry robbie my turn to be a tipsy smartass

5'2 120 lbs drinking 12% ABV beer = sarcasm

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God damn yanks !

jokes aside do you think we are all huddled up in are thatch roof houses with are coal fire on not stepping outside the door for fear of

Covid ???Im speaking of us irish people here !

We are out doing the same things you guys are doing !

most of us don’t give a shit !

Especially at this stage !

You ain’t been to cavalier ! I get ur perspective and Wer all sick of this ! but there’s no you and us on this topic !

Wer all stuck in the same boat !

Sorry robbie my turn to be a tipsy smartass

5'2 120 lbs drinking 12% ABV beer = sarcasm"

Sitting atop of your mountain looking over your 30acres no doubt !

na im kidding look we all know Americans are 90% bullshit 10% sarcasm I knew wat I was getting myself in to here !!!!!

na im only joking hope you’s have a good one enjoy !

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

God damn yanks !

jokes aside do you think we are all huddled up in are thatch roof houses with are coal fire on not stepping outside the door for fear of

Covid ???Im speaking of us irish people here !

We are out doing the same things you guys are doing !

most of us don’t give a shit !

Especially at this stage !

You ain’t been to cavalier ! I get ur perspective and Wer all sick of this ! but there’s no you and us on this topic !

Wer all stuck in the same boat !

Sorry robbie my turn to be a tipsy smartass

5'2 120 lbs drinking 12% ABV beer = sarcasm

Sitting atop of your mountain looking over your 30acres no doubt !

na im kidding look we all know Americans are 90% bullshit 10% sarcasm I knew wat I was getting myself in to here !!!!!

na im only joking hope you’s have a good one enjoy !

Always that is what life is about

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

God damn yanks !

jokes aside do you think we are all huddled up in are thatch roof houses with are coal fire on not stepping outside the door for fear of

Covid ???Im speaking of us irish people here !

We are out doing the same things you guys are doing !

most of us don’t give a shit !

Especially at this stage !

You ain’t been to cavalier ! I get ur perspective and Wer all sick of this ! but there’s no you and us on this topic !

Wer all stuck in the same boat !

Sorry robbie my turn to be a tipsy smartass

5'2 120 lbs drinking 12% ABV beer = sarcasm

Sitting atop of your mountain looking over your 30acres no doubt !

na im kidding look we all know Americans are 90% bullshit 10% sarcasm I knew wat I was getting myself in to here !!!!!

na im only joking hope you’s have a good one enjoy !

Always that is what life is about

Enough said !

Looking forward to rolling my eyes up at your next perspectives on shit

never boring !

Talk to you next time your annoyed

enjoy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But none of you can answer that question do we turn our backs on the rest of the world just to appease the world outlook on us.

I don't think the rest of the world sees your foreign policy as "helping", it's more destabilising and disruptive.

The USA flag waving military loving idiots is totally fucked up.

I agree now we having a incoming president telling us it's time we sit at the head of the table on the world stage. That signals more foreign policies. We traded one idiot for another."

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By *ac995Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Common Guys give the U.S.A a chance!

It’s still a developing country!

Yes our technological

break throughs are just beginning."

Cannot argue about technological development

However you haven’t grasped

Universal healthcare

Maternity leave

Access to abortion and birth control in some states

Free College

Although a small issue but a pain

Not using the metric system

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Common Guys give the U.S.A a chance!

It’s still a developing country!

Yes our technological

break throughs are just beginning.

Cannot argue about technological development

However you haven’t grasped

Universal healthcare

Maternity leave

Access to abortion and birth control in some states

Free College

Although a small issue but a pain

Not using the metric system"

Everything you mentioned except metric system is correct. Easy to solve too take away defense budget. Cut down on NATO And UN funding. Return all troops to US soil. Give all overseas bases back to their respective countries. No more global projection everyone wins.

Metric system Tired of buying hubby 10mm sockets when 3/8 is always faithful and doesn't run away.

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By *lamourpussyCouple
over a year ago

Warwick

"hahaha i dont belive a word the uk goverment say be they blue or red. be honest with you id say 95% of goverments are full of shit.

Couldn’t agree with you more.

If people still believe that Doris Johnson and that idiot sidekick Matt Hancock really are in charge of running the UK, you ought to self-isolate for the rest of your days.

Happy Christmas to our swinging Americans too x"

I presume non of your family or friends have been in the 2% then!

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"What’s so different someone explain please

Just ranting against your government imposed lockdown. The consensus seems all of you are happy with it.

You’s love opening back up pandora’s Box !

I’ll sit back and crack open another can

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get me one mate and make sure it’s a cold one lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ice cold one cumming up .

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Cheers mate easily pleased us lot lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Coffee atm too early for beer.

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By *lamourpussyCouple
over a year ago

Warwick

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude.

They are used to tipping their cap to an antiquated system of lords and ladies and kissing ass. "

That's an interesting comment and completely incorrect. I had the pleasure of working in the US for a couple of years as a senior manager in a Utility company. I had worked for the same company in the UK for ten years prior to going to the US.

I was shocked at how hierarchical business in the US is. I am sure everyone who worked for me there would have liked my shoes clean if they though it would help get them a promotion. In the whole time I was there I don't think I met a single person who was happy - no-one seems content with what they have and all seem to want more. After 6 months there my boss who was a director walked into the office on a Friday and told me we were going away at the weekend on business. When I told him I couldn't as I already had something arranged he was shocked, there is an expectation that everyone will work seven days a week if the boss asks as everyone brown noses to impress

I enjoyed my time in the US as it was different and I had the opportunity to travel, but live there - NO CHANCE! We have far more freedom in how we live our lives here in the UK than the vast majority of US citizens will ever have.

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By *unCpl1234Couple
over a year ago

Odiham

We seem to exert a powerful fascination on the American mind. And hopefully on their bodies too.

It's mutual, I'm sure.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Nope just a understanding that has been completed. Thanks for participating. We got answers.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"What are "our" views on freedom, that are so different from "yours?"

Don’t think anyone wants to get into the US tbh .. Trump has made the country a laughing stock.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

People die because they have no access to healthcare, women have to go to back street clinics for terminations as middle aged old white men seem to have an opinion about how women treat their own body, you can only get a tertiary education if daddy is rich oh and teachers have to teach young children ‘shoot out’ drills in case someone comes into their school to kill them.... no thanks.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"Why can't Americans understand socialism? Why are you so scared of everything?

What abject poverty nothing in the shops and starvation? No thanks why would we want to go backwards.

This is pretty funny.

Responding to a question about why you don't understand socialism, by demonstrating that you don't know anything about socialism.

Bravo.

I tend to believe after following the election campaign on tv that many Americans don’t know the difference between socialism & communism

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Why can't Americans understand socialism? Why are you so scared of everything?

What abject poverty nothing in the shops and starvation? No thanks why would we want to go backwards.

This is pretty funny.

Responding to a question about why you don't understand socialism, by demonstrating that you don't know anything about socialism.

Bravo.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

"People die because they have no access to healthcare, women have to go to back street clinics for terminations as middle aged old white men seem to have an opinion about how women treat their own body, you can only get a tertiary education if daddy is rich oh and teachers have to teach young children ‘shoot out’ drills in case someone comes into their school to kill them.... no thanks. "

this , children should be safe inside of school no ifs or buts , guns should be more stringently controlled

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over a year ago

this , children should be safe inside of school no ifs or buts , guns should be more stringently controlled

Your out of your mind.

Some of the largest cities in America have the strictest gun control laws in the country.(dam near impossible to get a permit to carry let alone purchase one)

And they have the highest level of gun violence there is. Its a proven fact that if you take away the guns from the honest law abiding citizens, the ones with guns will be the criminals. And don't give me a load of snowflake crap about how you don't have gun violence because no-one has guns. They even armed your "bobbies" after a period of no guns because they were outmatched by the bad guys who had guns.

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over a year ago

this , children should be safe inside of school no ifs or buts , guns should be more stringently controlled

Your out of your mind.

Some of the largest cities in America have the strictest gun control laws in the country.(dam near impossible to get a permit to carry let alone purchase one)

Seems to work well for the rest of the world though.

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over a year ago

this , children should be safe inside of school no ifs or buts , guns should be more stringently controlled

Your out of your mind.

Some of the largest cities in America have the strictest gun control laws in the country.(dam near impossible to get a permit to carry let alone purchase one)

Seems to work well for the rest of the world though."

Bad people only with guns seems to work. ROFLMAO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude."

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.

That’s what watching American TV taught me.

Guess you didn’t watch that show.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.

That’s what watching American TV taught me.

Guess you didn’t watch that show."

Thank you Mr. SPOCK (Star Trek II the Wrath of Kahn) i actually like that quote. And the needs of me and my family out weight you everyday of the week.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.

That’s what watching American TV taught me.

Guess you didn’t watch that show.

Thank you Mr. SPOCK (Star Trek II the Wrath of Kahn) i actually like that quote. And the needs of me and my family out weight you everyday of the week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I fucking love America. Bonkers but in a good way. We’d move there in a heartbeat.

Several key differences for you OP which might be why things seem so different and difficult to come to terms with. America polices by force, the UK is police by consent - this is huge in and of itself. There is no gun culture over here and police aren’t routinely armed (our armed police are closer to your SWAT teams and train with military special forces). That creates a very different dynamic when it comes to police interactions, our police aren’t under the constant fear that their subject may be armed, which is why your police come across as so heavy handed. This will influence everything else I feel. You guys are afraid (or rather fully respect) of the police, whereas we don’t really have any respect for them anymore. Especially since they’ve become politicised.

The first amendment tho....my god I fucking love it. I would kill to have something so powerful written into uk legislation.

Like others have said, Americans are fiercely independent because of your history. I think it’s a truly admirable trait. Don’t change

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I fucking love America. Bonkers but in a good way. We’d move there in a heartbeat.

The first amendment tho....my god I fucking love it. I would kill to have something so powerful written into uk legislation.

Like others have said, Americans are fiercely independent because of your history. I think it’s a truly admirable trait. Don’t change

You can't have the first amendment without protection from the second amendment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I fucking love America. Bonkers but in a good way. We’d move there in a heartbeat.

The first amendment tho....my god I fucking love it. I would kill to have something so powerful written into uk legislation.

Like others have said, Americans are fiercely independent because of your history. I think it’s a truly admirable trait. Don’t change

You can't have the first amendment without protection from the second amendment."

I 100% agree. Government should be afraid of its people, not the other way around. Believe me I’m a big advocate of the second amendment too. But the first is a glorious thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.

That’s what watching American TV taught me.

Guess you didn’t watch that show.

Thank you Mr. SPOCK (Star Trek II the Wrath of Kahn) i actually like that quote. And the needs of me and my family out weight you everyday of the week.

Your “family”? Is this in the godfather sense?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.

That’s what watching American TV taught me.

Guess you didn’t watch that show.

Thank you Mr. SPOCK (Star Trek II the Wrath of Kahn) i actually like that quote. And the needs of me and my family out weight you everyday of the week.

Your “family”? Is this in the godfather sense?"

Sort of.

I have blood family as well as family. The second will be back to back with me protective of blood.

If that makes sense

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.

That’s what watching American TV taught me.

Guess you didn’t watch that show.

Thank you Mr. SPOCK (Star Trek II the Wrath of Kahn) i actually like that quote. And the needs of me and my family out weight you everyday of the week.

Your “family”? Is this in the godfather sense?

Sort of.

I have blood family as well as family. The second will be back to back with me protective of blood.

If that makes sense

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Family first always

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I still can't grasp even as a woman why their views on freedoms is so different than ours. It's like a collective view on things. Instead of individual fortitude.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.

That’s what watching American TV taught me.

Guess you didn’t watch that show.

Thank you Mr. SPOCK (Star Trek II the Wrath of Kahn) i actually like that quote. And the needs of me and my family out weight you everyday of the week.

Your “family”? Is this in the godfather sense?

Sort of.

I have blood family as well as family. The second will be back to back with me protective of blood.

If that makes sense

Family first always

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By *anky_PankyWoman
over a year ago

Filthy Fuckeryville

"Oh wait you can't cross the road here you will get done for J walking.....

Have to be over 21 to drink but 16 to own a gun

Oh black people don't leave your house a cop will shoot you...

Really and you are making comments about the UK and EU when your own country is in such a fucking mess people fighting each other over trump and Biden

21 to drink

18 to have a fire arm.

All of a sudden election over no one getting shot by police."

In around half the US states, at a gun show no background checks are done meaning ANYONE can buy a gun.

Even under 18 if you are with a parent!!

I live in both the UK and USA and Gun shows are a regular occurrence where I am in the states.....

Scares me tbh

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Chicago with a population of around three million has approx a third more murders than the whole of the U.K. with its population of sixty seven million has in a year.

The U.K. murder rate has also nearly halved over the last 10-15 years.

Tell me again how guns help & why here in the U.K. we are at the mercy of gun toting criminals?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh wait you can't cross the road here you will get done for J walking.....

Have to be over 21 to drink but 16 to own a gun

Oh black people don't leave your house a cop will shoot you...

Really and you are making comments about the UK and EU when your own country is in such a fucking mess people fighting each other over trump and Biden

21 to drink

18 to have a fire arm.

All of a sudden election over no one getting shot by police.

In around half the US states, at a gun show no background checks are done meaning ANYONE can buy a gun.

Even under 18 if you are with a parent!!

I live in both the UK and USA and Gun shows are a regular occurrence where I am in the states.....

Scares me tbh "

Then don't go to gun shows. If they scare you, avoid them. No one is making you go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Chicago with a population of around three million has approx a third more murders than the whole of the U.K. with its population of sixty seven million has in a year.

The U.K. murder rate has also nearly halved over the last 10-15 years.

Tell me again how guns help & why here in the U.K. we are at the mercy of gun toting criminals?

Illinois (Chicago) is one of the strictest gun control cities in the US. Average law abiding citizens cannot carry. Or its very difficult to purchase and carry. The criminals have more than the police and the law abiding ones together. No wonder its higher than everyone else especially a postage stamp size country like the UK.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Chicago with a population of around three million has approx a third more murders than the whole of the U.K. with its population of sixty seven million has in a year.

The U.K. murder rate has also nearly halved over the last 10-15 years.

Tell me again how guns help & why here in the U.K. we are at the mercy of gun toting criminals?

Chicago is a democratic city has been for a long time. It is also one of the most segregated cities in the US. Poverty rates are high gang warfare is common. It's not a gun issue it is a social issue. Where is all the social justice entities? Why are they not in Chicago? Do ordinary citizen have the right to carry to protect their families yes they do no matter what color of your skin is. Hands down a racial social issue but the media don't bring that up do they? Just the gun violence.

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