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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

here we go again not allowed to name and shame com plete time wasters on this site

is it right for idiots to spoil this site for everyone eles should nt single males be made to pay a joinig fee so only the gen people would be on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

why should single men pay a joining fee there are just as many females and couples profiles that are fake and that would just increase those.

There are some very genuine males on here who do actually meet.

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

i am involed in an other well known site and as every one pays this problem does not happen

we have tried to set up a social party scene on this site only to be let down time and time again by clowns begging to come to meets and partys but never showing up

if there was a joining fee this would put of the married man cheating on his wife sigle lads fakeing profiles and idiots joining the site only to leave as soon as the wifes home

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By *edangel_2013Woman
over a year ago

southend

Would it hell!

I'm a member on a paysite and there are just as many dicks on there as on here. More so, because they tend to come with a sense of entitlement.

If you are constantly plagued by time wasters then look at your own selection process, after all they all have you in common.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i am involed in an other well known site and as every one pays this problem does not happen

we have tried to set up a social party scene on this site only to be let down time and time again by clowns begging to come to meets and partys but never showing up

if there was a joining fee this would put of the married man cheating on his wife sigle lads fakeing profiles and idiots joining the site only to leave as soon as the wifes home "

Having been on this and other pay sites (SH and Local to name two) I can safely say that paying money doesn't seem to stop time wasters at all.

Also it's not just single men who waste time, there are single females and couples who do the same,

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

we have been on this a long time now and our selection process is based on verifed only to which by the way i see you have none

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we have been on this a long time now and our selection process is based on verifed only to which by the way i see you have none "

Just out of interest who was that message intended for ? As everyone who replied on your thread IS verified

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By *muffin manMan
over a year ago

hadleywood/barnet

Thing is why do people like faking it I get it from time to time !! Spoils it for us who want to meet

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

we hold a lot of partys so people who talk to each other for months on here can accually meet an idea that really should have taken on by others but hardly anyone has and i can see by the replys on this post by people who are willing to defend fakes and time wasters that there was never any real point

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"we hold a lot of partys so people who talk to each other for months on here can accually meet an idea that really should have taken on by others but hardly anyone has and i can see by the replys on this post by people who are willing to defend fakes and time wasters that there was never any real point "

You must be reading a different thread to me, no one is defending fakes or time wasters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

any one that can accept a site full of timewasters is in fact defending it

in my view this site will end up just like the dogging scene in the northwest

it became full of idiots and gays until all the real swingers left

and I think that's what is going to happen to this site owners and mods do nothing to sort this out even though at any given day I could find someone complaining about it instead they ban the complainents I m in no way homophobic but this is ment to be a swingers site and every day I see gay men looking for other gay men I believe all the gen swingers will move on leaving this site full of fake profiles and gay lads and that is why we have decided to take our partys to another site

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"i am involed in an other well known site and as every one pays this problem does not happen

we have tried to set up a social party scene on this site only to be let down time and time again by clowns begging to come to meets and partys but never showing up

if there was a joining fee this would put of the married man cheating on his wife sigle lads fakeing profiles and idiots joining the site only to leave as soon as the wifes home "

I'm not sure how a joining fee would stop certain people joining, all the categories of people you mention have access to money.

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

Free means idiots can come and go as they please unregulated of they had to pay they would be more likely to be genuine

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Free means idiots can come and go as they please unregulated of they had to pay they would be more likely to be genuine "

I don't agree and i would be interested to know your reasons for assuming that paying would deter certain people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"any one that can accept a site full of timewasters is in fact defending it

in my view this site will end up just like the dogging scene in the northwest

it became full of idiots and gays until all the real swingers left

Can gays not swing, since when did swing become exclusive to us straight folk

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By *etsorderpizzaMan
over a year ago

dyce

A little bit rattled by this post, 4 or 5 women have let me down in the last year. And some more than once. I'm too damn nice!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am real and I cant get a meet so what chance have I

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By *i-4-2Man
over a year ago

Stratford

There are a lot of guys looking for hook ups with other guys. I don't mind that which is why I am on fabguys too. But I'm on here to meet bi couples...it does get a bit vexing when guys contact me without reading my profile first, but I guess that happens to all of us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" here we go again not allowed to name and shame com plete time wasters on this site

is it right for idiots to spoil this site for everyone eles should nt single males be made to pay a joinig fee so only the gen people would be on here

So your saying all single guys are timewasters and not genuine so should pay a joining fee I know plenty of females and couples who arrange to meet and never show up so are they not timewasters

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

All of you say the same thing basically unhappy with what happens but it's fine

one I said if it goes on unregulated real people will walk away there is no loyalty in the would no more and there are plenty of other sites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having been on and off this site over the years, there has always been a "this should be a pay site otherwise people will leave" vocal group of people. Funny enough, the sites still here, still doing well and hundreds of people have meets without problems at all.

I understand your annoyed, hell time wasters anoy me, none of us are saying its fine, however your solution, as I and others can attest to, doesnt work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think the op wants all the single guys banned off the site so that its just a site for couples and females

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Think the op wants all the single guys banned off the site so that its just a site for couples and females"

In other words they want there cake and don't want to share

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To be fair to the OP, they haven't said that they don't want single men on the site, they just don't want one full of gay men

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bill and Alison host good parties some attractive people there . ( I went with Angie ) great hosts and Alison scrubs up well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To be fair to the OP, they haven't said that they don't want single men on the site, they just don't want one full of gay men

If the op doesn't want to see a site full of gay guys looking for other gay guys then it might be better for them to block gay and bi guys from showing up on there searchers that way they won't have a problem

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

In no way have I said single lads should be barred from this site one off the biggest reasons for us holding social party's at our home is so single guys get a chance to meet people without having to fork out ridiculous prices the clubs think is ok but having asked most of the cples attending the party's how many lads they would be comfy with about 5 was the general thought but not once in all the party's we have had have all 5 invited ever turned up

and my point about the site some of you say are unfounded and yet most of you who commented complain they can't get a meet wonder why that is maybe most of the cples on here have turned to party's and clubs as there sick to death of breing let down

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

Oh and Wirral fun I have never blocked anyone and don't intend to start now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" here we go again not allowed to name and shame com plete time wasters on this site

is it right for idiots to spoil this site for everyone eles should nt single males be made to pay a joinig fee so only the gen people would be on here

We have had the same problems. Mainly with single men so you have our sympathy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is not just single men, in I had 3 no shows in the last two months, two single women and one couple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In no way have I said single lads should be barred from this site one off the biggest reasons for us holding social party's at our home is so single guys get a chance to meet people without having to fork out ridiculous prices the clubs think is ok but having asked most of the cples attending the party's how many lads they would be comfy with about 5 was the general thought but not once in all the party's we have had have all 5 invited ever turned up

So how do you class females and couples who arrange meets and not turn up op would you class them as clowns and timewasters or is it just guys in general

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

I'm sure there might be girls and cples who let people down but as I have said we have only had problems with single lads we have never had problems with single girls as they have always turned up so I am going by my own experiences and I still believe there is a case for fab to listen to its members and act

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As other threads have surely mentioned. The number of men in site outweigh couples and female profiles so the experience you have had would be proportional.

I.e 5:3:1 ratio (m/f/c) means that single men are twice as likely not to show as females who are twice as likely not to show as couples. Mathematically.

Yes there are idiots on site in all persuasions too, be they male, female, couple, bi, gay etc. The site provides enough tools to be able to do your own vetting.

With the meet counts you have bill/Alison I would have thought you are rather versed in spotting the likely candidates too so would suggest that you improve your vetting rather than blaming the site for alleged shortcomings or singling out a "single" males.

I can see your frustration in your posts too, and believe me, I have had a share of idiots stalking friends and abusing them, as well as couples and women who talk for ages then decide off the cuff so pay that you are to be blocked. Fickle huh? Thats life on fab and SH too

Indeed as a male profile I seem to have had more luck here than on SH in the past ten years as an online swinger and I have been swinging since 21 (25years). But that's how i find it. So I blame SH, women or couple profiles? Nope. I blame my own vetting each time I let an idiot, faker, or times after get to me. But to be fair I also only have had about 6 in the last 4 years on here.

I really do hope your outlook improves but rest assured there are genuine and reliable men out there too. Like diamonds they are to be dug for, you can't find them walking down the street.

Cheers

Dave

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

My vetting process can only go so far we have even found profiles with fake verifications and stolen pics the whole point of this rant is that it is not ok just to ok put up with it with the attitude that it happens suck it up we have a report button it should be used against fab and let them see they do have a problem

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

Wirral fun we are having a party on the 16 of this month and guess what 2 singles males that begged to come have dropped out but at least thay let us know so your chance to put your money were your mouth us you are invited to this party i know its short notice but no shorter than most meets are arranged it

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By *rs DreamweaverWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

I would focus on your grammar and spelling....it might attract more genuine and good quality people!!

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

Oh please have a look at our profile and at the verifyd so all those people are classless

silly woman

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

And I think that just goes to prove my point say somthing that don't like and the clowns turn to personal attacks

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

Ok mane charging people more May not work I would have to concede to people who have been on other sites and seen it not work

but that doesn't mean we have to put up with this with the shit happens attitude

eBay have a good customer system there is another site that has a star rating these things can be adopted and adapted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ok mane charging people more May not work I would have to concede to people who have been on other sites and seen it not work

but that doesn't mean we have to put up with this with the shit happens attitude

eBay have a good customer system there is another site that has a star rating these things can be adopted and adapted "

Ebay amazon and similar all work because there is record of what has gone on and can be proven to have won / bought an item so its harder to cheat the system.

I'll be honest when I used LS I never paid any attention to the star rating as i found more fakes who had supposedly good ratings than couples and singles who I met without any rating who were real.

The main problem with any kind of rating system is its open to abuse, there's no "record of transaction" so to speak, when it comes to swinging, its all mainly done at a personal level, with the exception of clubs and similar, and so is just one person's word against another that they are time wasters / fakes or the ultimate god/godess in bed.

Personally I believe thats what makes it so hard for admin to do anything about them, I have no doubt they are as fed up of them as we all are, but if all they have to go on is heresay there's not a lot they can ultimately do

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

I also think that negative verifications should be allowed and shown on your profile just like the club section as as in the club part of you feel you have been unfairly treated you can appeal and have it removed I e

A short form to fill in did they turn up did they give a reason for not doing so and so on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Problem with that is that it's still going to be open to abuse and again they are only going on hearsay.

As an example

Mr F could arrange to meet MrandMrs XY

XY file a bad review saying he didn't turn up

F sees his negative feedback and contacts admin to say yes he turned up ,played and shagged their brains out and that they all left happy

Who's admin to believe ?

In the mean time Mr F has negative feedback which can't be proved either way.

From there it gets a lot more complicated, say one F turned up and Mrs XY didn't look anyrhing like there pictures , he could have left and left negative fees back saying they lied about their looks, while they could leave bad feedback saying he turned up but wasted their time.

Again not possible to prove either way without having actually been in that situation.

The clubs section has a number of different points of view bassed on different peoples perspectives at the time of their visit, some may not like loud music so leave a bad review, some may like it loud as it adds atmosphere so leave a good review etc etc

Sorry if this comes across as trying to have a go at your suggestion as I'm truly not, I just can't see it working in practice I'm afraid

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By *tickyfingers.24Man
over a year ago

Newport Pagnell

OP... you want single men to pay a joining fee....

You also state you started your parties so that guys don't have to pay the high fees to visit a swinging club..

You're just wanting adding another selection process to hammer a single guy.

I don't think it would really alter your no shows.

Try checking the verifications of the people who verify your single guys. Have they verified responsibly?? Perhaps even look at their verifications. . Message them perhaps.. see what response you get.. do a bit of digging ..and then offer your invites based on those.

Hard work? Not if you're only inviting 6 guys and probably fun digging too. Your party.. your choice. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would never pay to join a site like this. Far too many people just use it as a social area and place to air there annoyances.

Plus plenty of women on here are far above themselves because many men on here have no standards as long as they get their dick wet and the amount of fakes on here really don't make it worth a premium.

Had far more proper meets on another site without the hassle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" here we go again not allowed to name and shame com plete time wasters on this site

is it right for idiots to spoil this site for everyone eles should nt single males be made to pay a joinig fee so only the gen people would be on here

a massive generalisation I feel, women are equally as bad when I've spoken to others

Idiots spoil this site and other sites all the time

Ignore and block, don't let them win

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By *weet delightful coupleCouple
over a year ago

morpeth

True what your saying we get stood up all the time to many false profiles on here don't know what they get from it apart from the odd pictures most profiles are just guys it's hard to them out at first but they do all seem to keep to a pattern in the end

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

You all day the same thing but no one does anything about it

and had you say you would never pay for this site yet I see you are a site supporter

that's 60 pounds a year

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You all day the same thing but no one does anything about it

and had you say you would never pay for this site yet I see you are a site supporter

that's 60 pounds a year"

£5 a month is not a lot to what you'd want to charge and it's only 60 a year if you buy it every month. Every time I've come back on here to see if it's changed much I've only supported the site for a max of two months and the clue is in the payment name. Support.

I got blocked yesterday by a guy because I said no to meeting him because I don't want a guy sucking my dick, You've got people on here with no manners at all and you've got quite a few profiles where they are only on here for the social aspect of chatting in the forum.

Not all men are cunts and no shows.

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

Well as I have said maybe not all single men are timewasters but in my experience and a lot of others on this site most males are on here to mess people about and fuck it up for every one else it's when people say they come on here on and off therefore marking people think that have something to hide

and why never do various on there profiles I would have thought people saying nice things about you can only help but why hide them unless there bad ones

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By *inkyKellyCDTV/TS
over a year ago

Coventry

Regarding adding an entry fee to here: Horny idiots have money too :P

If you're having trouble with timewasters, maybe have another look at your selection process - I can't say I've got it down to an art but from 10-15 meets last year, I had only one no-show.

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

Well let's see we're I'm going wrong

l start from the top how long have you been on the site weeks months suggest your hoping on and off the site am sure there are plenty of newbys but the idiots have messed that up for you

then pics why have you none the usually because you arnt going to be on the site long enough to be botherd putting any on and then there's the you don't want the wife to see them I can understand not having gave pics as people have lived outside the site and some jobs just won't put up with it

then verification are there any if so how many and what do they say then to go on and check the profiles of the verifys in case there made up ones yes that does happen then what they have to say about themselfs they don't have to be genius just have they taken the time to fill in the box which tends to mean they are intending to stay on the site and they are trying to get meets not putting anything there says again I can't be botherd so will write full in later

so go on we're am I going wrong

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got stood up on a meet the other day

Makes me wonder why I joined back up x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well let's see we're I'm going wrong

l start from the top how long have you been on the site weeks months suggest your hoping on and off the site am sure there are plenty of newbys but the idiots have messed that up for you

so go on we're am I going wrong "

Been on and off for over a year. Had a few meets. Not my problem if people don't want to leave a verification after they've got what they wanted.

Got plenty of pictures on site and had around 5 showing the other day. Now I've one. If people want more pics of me then they can ask.

I don't chase people on here or waste my time nor theirs.

If I had a wife I'd not be wasting my time on here responding to you or the the stupid amount of single males messaging me (which I've now blocked)

Maybe they never met you because they went off you? Maybe don't find you attractive or maybe something better popped up.

Either way don't moan about it just chalk it down to experience and move on.

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

I hate to do this but had I have just looked at your profile and I must say you really do have a very hi opinion of your self which is strange for someone with only one pic is it you who knows only one verification and that is from a man on cam and the message you have left on your profile about as you say day girls I don't belive for one minute you have ever had a meet and you sir are exactly the sort of male this post is aimed at

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I hate to do this but had I have just looked at your profile and I must say you really do have a very hi opinion of your self which is strange for someone with only one pic is it you who knows only one verification and that is from a man on cam and the message you have left on your profile about as you say day girls I don't belive for one minute you have ever had a meet and you sir are exactly the sort of male this post is aimed at "

No you just can't read. If you had bothered to read what I put you'd have seen me state I have more pics.

Had a few meets thanks some under an old profile over a year ago and some under another over 6 months ago but that's non of your concern.

Got a nice verification from a good man who piped up when I went on cam and asked for a cam verification for this profile again non of your concern.

Your post ain't aimed at me it's aimed at people who have let you down and sorry my profile says what it needs to say which is the truth. I've looked at yours and it says nothing of interest at all so I can see why some people won't bother. Us men can't win on here. If we write nothing we get moaned at if we write something we are classed has having an massive ego lol.

You're just pissed off some cunts let you down and you're on here trying to justify why he's done it and instead of taking a look at yourself your on here blaming everyone else.

I find you quite shallow tbh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In the interests of sanity can I suggest that everyone stops criticizing each other's profile and just agree to disagree over what you think should or should not be written/showing.

The issue is time wasters, not wether you like another forum posters profile or not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't join pay sites as most require cc which I don't have but I'm genuine and also have problems with being stood up by ladies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Free means idiots can come and go as they please unregulated of they had to pay they would be more likely to be genuine "

Simple answer then if you're not happy about free fab, charge an entry fee up front for your party. Sorted. Those who pay as you say will be committed in going to it. Those who won't, won't disappoint you.

And really....its rich to single out men about being fake. There are proportionally as many fake couples on here too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"any one that can accept a site full of timewasters is in fact defending it

in my view this site will end up just like the dogging scene in the northwest

it became full of idiots and gays until all the real swingers left

Bye then.....!

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By *ill-alison OP Couple
over a year ago

kirkby

In answer to free s statement we won't be charging for our party's and the fake cples profiles on here are mostly stupid idiots who are mostly single malesand for the last comment which said bye then we'll done you 4 weeks on the site I supose you will be off the site soon oh and had if I wanted a slanging match I would of picked a better opponent it says you are a doorman I hope that means you hang doors for a living as I don't you could put a fab out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you speak to all your single guys like that I'm surprised any of them would want to come to your party. You've probably scared them all away.

Your forum posts are very rude and aggressive - you may want to think about that before you start jumping down everyone's neck.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In answer to free s statement we won't be charging for our party's and the fake cples profiles on here are mostly stupid idiots who are mostly single malesand for the last comment which said bye then we'll done you 4 weeks on the site I supose you will be off the site soon oh and had if I wanted a slanging match I would of picked a better opponent it says you are a doorman I hope that means you hang doors for a living as I don't you could put a fab out"

Pains me reading what you're trying to say because I've got to decipher it first.

You must be a real blast at parties pissing and moaning all the time about fake people and yet you're still here??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pains me reading what you're trying to say because I've got to decipher it first.

You must be a real blast at parties pissing and moaning all the time about fake people and yet you're still here??

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

We've been on here over 7 years, and as you can see from our veries, we've met loads.............. and have NEVER had a no-show, due to our selection process.

Fool me once... shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me!

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By *onnie and JohnCouple
over a year ago

WILTSHIRE

"In the interests of sanity can I suggest that everyone stops criticizing each other's profile and just agree to disagree over what you think should or should not be written/showing.

The issue is time wasters, "

hi ...

if you experience a no show then use the report button on they profile and let admin take the appropriate action, we all want a site that works for swinging if we all pull together then maybe its achievable..connie x

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