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"I don't think you could say people are missing out just because they don't swing. They could be happy as they are in a loving monogamous relationship etc" Happy monogamous .... Ah veraliy mine eyes doth detect an oxymoron | |||
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" Happy monogamous ...." LOL....I'm definately missing the monogamous gene | |||
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"Surely if 90% (or more) of women who 'swing',either with partners or alone,are bi or bi curious doesn't it follow that there must be an awful lot of women,especialy married or in hetrosexual relationships that for whatever reason don't 'swing' that are missing out on a big part of their sex-lifes.Just a thought." And a very valid thought ! When I asked my partner whether she had any bi tendencies she said she had when she was 16 and did snog a girl on a school trip , but nothing since . This was before we began swinging and since we started she has loved the ff fun - so yes there are probably many bi women who never get to enjoy it in vanilla world !!!!  | |||
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"Surely if 90% (or more) of women who 'swing',either with partners or alone,are bi or bi curious doesn't it follow that there must be an awful lot of women,especialy married or in hetrosexual relationships that for whatever reason don't 'swing' that are missing out on a big part of their sex-lifes.Just a thought." if they are bi they must be having sex with other women, otherwise how can they be bi? there for they arnt missing out  | |||
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"Surely if 90% (or more) of women who 'swing',either with partners or alone,are bi or bi curious doesn't it follow that there must be an awful lot of women,especialy married or in hetrosexual relationships that for whatever reason don't 'swing' that are missing out on a big part of their sex-lifes.Just a thought." I think non-swinging women might well be missing out with a bit of harmless ff dabbling here and there. You're right about the high percentage of bi/bi-curious women. It just goes to show how accepting we have become of homosexual acts. For the majority, there is nothing disgusting about it. For this reason, I suspect that view is likely to be shared by a huge percentage of non-swinging straight women out there. They are just not in a position to do anything about it. | |||
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"Surely if 90% (or more) of women who 'swing',either with partners or alone,are bi or bi curious doesn't it follow that there must be an awful lot of women,especialy married or in hetrosexual relationships that for whatever reason don't 'swing' that are missing out on a big part of their sex-lifes.Just a thought. if they are bi they must be having sex with other women, otherwise how can they be bi? there for they arnt missing out "So the same must go for straight people... If they are married but not having sex with other people, they can't be straight? Of course people can be bi if they aren't shagging same sex partners.... ?! | |||
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"The problem is that not only has the op massively inflated the number of bi women who swing, and thats not even getting into the pillow princesses and women who say they are bi cos they think it is obligatory...they are looking down on monogamy. It is a valid choice for many, not a denial or repression, just as non monogamy is a valid choice for others,not a sign that something is missing or inadequate." Yes but her point is that swinging females at least have the opportunity to explore ff situations if we want to. The fact that so many choose to, or at least are not offended by the idea, offers us the chance to explore that side. For the rest, how many straight women out there are probably itching to give it a go but simply just just can't? I don't think it's a comment on monogomy because otherwise you could bring lot's of other arguments in, ie what about bi-men, what about gang bangs, different partners, fetishes etc. I think the main point is that we have opportunities that the majority of the population probably are missing out on. | |||
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"Em thought she was missing out until we tried it. noe she knows she isnt cuz it aint all that, according to her" No but at least she had the opportunity to try! Now she knows. | |||
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"The problem is that not only has the op massively inflated the number of bi women who swing, and thats not even getting into the pillow princesses and women who say they are bi cos they think it is obligatory...they are looking down on monogamy. It is a valid choice for many, not a denial or repression, just as non monogamy is a valid choice for others,not a sign that something is missing or inadequate. Yes but her point is that swinging females at least have the opportunity to explore ff situations if we want to. The fact that so many choose to, or at least are not offended by the idea, offers us the chance to explore that side. For the rest, how many straight women out there are probably itching to give it a go but simply just just can't? I don't think it's a comment on monogomy because otherwise you could bring lot's of other arguments in, ie what about bi-men, what about gang bangs, different partners, fetishes etc. I think the main point is that we have opportunities that the majority of the population probably are missing out on. " Taking opportunities doesnt mean you are bi...i am bi, i could have just as easliy ended up with a woman as a man...thats what bi means, attracted to both sexes. | |||
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"Em thought she was missing out until we tried it. noe she knows she isnt cuz it aint all that, according to her" See that worries me...why on earth did she feel she was missing out...surely she knew if she fancied women or not? | |||
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"Em thought she was missing out until we tried it. noe she knows she isnt cuz it aint all that, according to her See that worries me...why on earth did she feel she was missing out...surely she knew if she fancied women or not?" she always wondered what it would be like to be with another woman, afterall, no one knows how to turn a woman on than another woman, right? not a bit of it. she much preferes cock. just finds women kiss better than men lol | |||
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"Em thought she was missing out until we tried it. noe she knows she isnt cuz it aint all that, according to her See that worries me...why on earth did she feel she was missing out...surely she knew if she fancied women or not? she always wondered what it would be like to be with another woman, afterall, no one knows how to turn a woman on than another woman, right? not a bit of it. she much preferes cock. just finds women kiss better than men lol" Ahh the lies we are told by porn, never quite got why women are supposed to innately know what to do  | |||
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"Em thought she was missing out until we tried it. noe she knows she isnt cuz it aint all that, according to her See that worries me...why on earth did she feel she was missing out...surely she knew if she fancied women or not? she always wondered what it would be like to be with another woman, afterall, no one knows how to turn a woman on than another woman, right? not a bit of it. she much preferes cock. just finds women kiss better than men lol Ahh the lies we are told by porn, never quite got why women are supposed to innately know what to do "dont suppose its just porn though. i mean, how many blokes have told you they can make any woman cum, yet when it comes to it, they jsut dont get there for you? the ONLY time she enjoyed it was our first meet, and she was virtually raped by te woman in question, and she really enjoyed it (possibly coupled with the excitement of it being the first time) but nothing since ahs quite lived up to it. | |||
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"Em thought she was missing out until we tried it. noe she knows she isnt cuz it aint all that, according to her See that worries me...why on earth did she feel she was missing out...surely she knew if she fancied women or not? she always wondered what it would be like to be with another woman, afterall, no one knows how to turn a woman on than another woman, right? not a bit of it. she much preferes cock. just finds women kiss better than men lol Ahh the lies we are told by porn, never quite got why women are supposed to innately know what to do
dont suppose its just porn though.
i mean, how many blokes have told you they can make any woman cum, yet when it comes to it, they jsut dont get there for you?
the ONLY time she enjoyed it was our first meet, and she was virtually raped by te woman in question, and she really enjoyed it (possibly coupled with the excitement of it being the first time) but nothing since ahs quite lived up to it."Then why does it say on your profile that you are looking for bi women? If she doesn't like it, she doesn't like it. It's not for everyone. It's ok to be straight. I know that most swinging women are bi.... But people are pretty open minded, I'm sure they will still accept her.... even if she's straight.  | |||
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"The problem is that not only has the op massively inflated the number of bi women who swing, and thats not even getting into the pillow princesses and women who say they are bi cos they think it is obligatory...they are looking down on monogamy. It is a valid choice for many, not a denial or repression, just as non monogamy is a valid choice for others,not a sign that something is missing or inadequate."  | |||
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"Em thought she was missing out until we tried it. noe she knows she isnt cuz it aint all that, according to her See that worries me...why on earth did she feel she was missing out...surely she knew if she fancied women or not? she always wondered what it would be like to be with another woman, afterall, no one knows how to turn a woman on than another woman, right? not a bit of it. she much preferes cock. just finds women kiss better than men lol Ahh the lies we are told by porn, never quite got why women are supposed to innately know what to do
dont suppose its just porn though.
i mean, how many blokes have told you they can make any woman cum, yet when it comes to it, they jsut dont get there for you?
the ONLY time she enjoyed it was our first meet, and she was virtually raped by te woman in question, and she really enjoyed it (possibly coupled with the excitement of it being the first time) but nothing since ahs quite lived up to it.
Then why does it say on your profile that you are looking for bi women? If she doesn't like it, she doesn't like it. It's not for everyone.
It's ok to be straight. I know that most swinging women are bi.... But people are pretty open minded, I'm sure they will still accept her.... even if she's straight. "You see this is why ppl like the op assume far more women are bi than are... | |||
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"The problem is that not only has the op massively inflated the number of bi women who swing, and thats not even getting into the pillow princesses and women who say they are bi cos they think it is obligatory...they are looking down on monogamy. It is a valid choice for many, not a denial or repression, just as non monogamy is a valid choice for others,not a sign that something is missing or inadequate. Yes but her point is that swinging females at least have the opportunity to explore ff situations if we want to. The fact that so many choose to, or at least are not offended by the idea, offers us the chance to explore that side. For the rest, how many straight women out there are probably itching to give it a go but simply just just can't? I don't think it's a comment on monogomy because otherwise you could bring lot's of other arguments in, ie what about bi-men, what about gang bangs, different partners, fetishes etc. I think the main point is that we have opportunities that the majority of the population probably are missing out on. Taking opportunities doesnt mean you are bi...i am bi, i could have just as easliy ended up with a woman as a man...thats what bi means, attracted to both sexes." like this although have been recently told by a friend on here that he feels there sure be another catogory for me that says lesibian with one expection poor oreo although he doesn't complain xxx | |||
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"Em thought she was missing out until we tried it. noe she knows she isnt cuz it aint all that, according to her See that worries me...why on earth did she feel she was missing out...surely she knew if she fancied women or not? she always wondered what it would be like to be with another woman, afterall, no one knows how to turn a woman on than another woman, right? not a bit of it. she much preferes cock. just finds women kiss better than men lol Ahh the lies we are told by porn, never quite got why women are supposed to innately know what to do
dont suppose its just porn though.
i mean, how many blokes have told you they can make any woman cum, yet when it comes to it, they jsut dont get there for you?
the ONLY time she enjoyed it was our first meet, and she was virtually raped by te woman in question, and she really enjoyed it (possibly coupled with the excitement of it being the first time) but nothing since ahs quite lived up to it.
Then why does it say on your profile that you are looking for bi women? If she doesn't like it, she doesn't like it. It's not for everyone.
It's ok to be straight. I know that most swinging women are bi.... But people are pretty open minded, I'm sure they will still accept her.... even if she's straight. "because she is not fully straight either. she likes the touch of a woman, and kissing, she just has no interest below the waist, there is just no option for bi playful | |||
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"The problem is that not only has the op massively inflated the number of bi women who swing, and thats not even getting into the pillow princesses and women who say they are bi cos they think it is obligatory...they are looking down on monogamy. It is a valid choice for many, not a denial or repression, just as non monogamy is a valid choice for others,not a sign that something is missing or inadequate. Yes but her point is that swinging females at least have the opportunity to explore ff situations if we want to. The fact that so many choose to, or at least are not offended by the idea, offers us the chance to explore that side. For the rest, how many straight women out there are probably itching to give it a go but simply just just can't? I don't think it's a comment on monogomy because otherwise you could bring lot's of other arguments in, ie what about bi-men, what about gang bangs, different partners, fetishes etc. I think the main point is that we have opportunities that the majority of the population probably are missing out on. Taking opportunities doesnt mean you are bi...i am bi, i could have just as easliy ended up with a woman as a man...thats what bi means, attracted to both sexes. like this although have been recently told by a friend on here that he feels there sure be another catogory for me that says lesibian with one expection poor oreo although he doesn't complain xxx"kev says im a lesbian who likes cock | |||
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" It's ok to be straight. I know that most swinging women are bi.... But people are pretty open minded, I'm sure they will still accept her.... even if she's straight.
You see this is why ppl like the op assume far more women are bi than are..."I was just being ironic/ sarcastic. The OP had put a figure of 90% on the 'number of bi women..'. I was going to say 99.977684635% are bi but thought people might take that as fact... | |||
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"but what is bi? does bi start at thinking about it and end with having a faceful of pussy? if so, it is a HUGE spectrum of sexual exploits and, thusly, by explination, Em is bi, altough i agree, curious or playful would be closer to the mark than actually bisexual" I agree it's a spectrum from totally 100% straight to totally 100% gay, and millions of variations in between. Many people move along the line at different times in their lives, they rarely stay in one place. So you make a very very good point. 'Bi' doesn't cover it at all. | |||
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"Even ignoring the monogamy thing, a lot of bi girls could be having fun with other girls in the 'vanilla' world. I think some people in the swinging world have a certain arrogance in assuming that others are missing out just because they don't swing. That's definitely not the case."
I had tried bi sex, threesomes and moresomes all before discovering swinging. | |||
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"Even ignoring the monogamy thing, a lot of bi girls could be having fun with other girls in the 'vanilla' world. I think some people in the swinging world have a certain arrogance in assuming that others are missing out just because they don't swing. That's definitely not the case." So whats that if its not swinging  | |||
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"The problem is that not only has the op massively inflated the number of bi women who swing, and thats not even getting into the pillow princesses and women who say they are bi cos they think it is obligatory...they are looking down on monogamy. It is a valid choice for many, not a denial or repression, just as non monogamy is a valid choice for others,not a sign that something is missing or inadequate." Indeed. I was a virgin when I married at 20. Until the age of 46 I'd only had sex with my husband. I didn't for one moment think I was missing out on anything. | |||
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"Even ignoring the monogamy thing, a lot of bi girls could be having fun with other girls in the 'vanilla' world. I think some people in the swinging world have a certain arrogance in assuming that others are missing out just because they don't swing. That's definitely not the case.So whats that if its not swinging "How is it swinging? Define swinging.... | |||
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"Even ignoring the monogamy thing, a lot of bi girls could be having fun with other girls in the 'vanilla' world. I think some people in the swinging world have a certain arrogance in assuming that others are missing out just because they don't swing. That's definitely not the case." Couldn't have put it better myself. | |||
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"Even ignoring the monogamy thing, a lot of bi girls could be having fun with other girls in the 'vanilla' world. I think some people in the swinging world have a certain arrogance in assuming that others are missing out just because they don't swing. That's definitely not the case.So whats that if its not swinging "I have friends and colleagues who have multiple partners: some are in open relationships. I used to push a shopping trolley around Sainsbury's before I discovered online shopping. People are still shagging without using sites like this. What's in a name? | |||
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"nope, cannot see the connection to be honest." Nor me, I like women and I have had one wonderful bi experience a few years ago, but we dont swing. I do love womens boobs though! And the kiss of that woman was electric, no bloody stubble! | |||
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"Even ignoring the monogamy thing, a lot of bi girls could be having fun with other girls in the 'vanilla' world. I think some people in the swinging world have a certain arrogance in assuming that others are missing out just because they don't swing. That's definitely not the case.So whats that if its not swinging
I have friends and colleagues who have multiple partners: some are in open relationships.
I used to push a shopping trolley around Sainsbury's before I discovered online shopping.
People are still shagging without using sites like this.
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we were having the same kind of sex before we discovered the internet...there just werent forums to waste hours on | |||
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"Even ignoring the monogamy thing, a lot of bi girls could be having fun with other girls in the 'vanilla' world. I think some people in the swinging world have a certain arrogance in assuming that others are missing out just because they don't swing. That's definitely not the case.So whats that if its not swinging
How is it swinging? Define swinging...."well, from just being on this site i would define it as enjoying sex with mulitple partners in a mutually satisfactory environment. BEFORE being on here, however, i would have assumed it would have had to have been in a couple situation, as i would not have counted single persons as swingers, merely enjoying sexual congress. | |||
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"Surely if 90% (or more) of women who 'swing',either with partners or alone,are bi or bi curious ...." that assumes that all those 90% are ACTUALLY bi/bi-c ... we tend to believe a high % of those that state they are bi/bi-c are due to desire of their male half (assuming the female half exists) | |||
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"Even ignoring the monogamy thing, a lot of bi girls could be having fun with other girls in the 'vanilla' world. I think some people in the swinging world have a certain arrogance in assuming that others are missing out just because they don't swing. That's definitely not the case. So whats that if its not swinging "How is it swinging? If I'm a single girl and I meet another single girl for some bi fun that clearly isn't swinging. I'd have thought that was obvious. | |||
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"I was a happy hippy free bird of the 70's and dabbled in the 'free love' aspect of it all before I met and married my husband. I had no idea about swinging. Peace love and understanding man! " | |||
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