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"Fab is reserved for straight couples only?" of course not but there's a whole other site dedicated specifically for gay and bi. | |||
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"Fab is reserved for straight couples only?of course not but there's a whole other site dedicated specifically for gay and bi. " I guess they've exhausted their options there and are here for fresh blood | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " Maybe the gay men are bi-curious about women? There is that possibility. Also, I don't see how them being on here affects You? | |||
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"It doesnt affect us , but it does affect the site. " How may I ask? | |||
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"Oooops I like Bi men " Thank god for women like you x | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " I've only been on Fab for 2 or 3 years. What did it set out to be originally? To me Fab is still a place for singles and couples of varying genders to find other singles and couples of varying genders to enjoy sexual encounters of varying descriptions with? There's a vast amount of scenarios for straight couples without even taking any degree of bisexuality into account, which it what makes Fab great. You can almost certainly find someone who shares your fantasy and is happy to be a part of it. Adding bisexuality into the mix just makes things all the more interesting, but it's not a requirement for the site | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago Maybe the gay men are bi-curious about women? There is that possibility. Also, I don't see how them being on here affects You?" There are actually two or three of us out there, we exist (well, I am waaayy past the stage of curious now) | |||
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"Oooops I like Bi men Thank god for women like you x" Its hot especially if im attracted to both and can join in | |||
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"Oooops I like Bi men Thank god for women like you x Its hot especially if im attracted to both and can join in " well, I don't know about my looks but a woman is always welcome to muck in to my gay shenanigans | |||
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"It doesnt affect us , but it does affect the site. " How? | |||
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"Oooops I like Bi men " Hi from a valley or two over!! X | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " Careful, your prejudices are showing | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " I can't say I've noticed a difference in the somewhat short time I've been here. But even if there were more gay men, I don't see how it effects you in the slightest? Just use the search function to find what you're looking for and block and ignore the rest. | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " I dont know the exact figures but I sense that you are right,however i am not sure how it affects the site,apart from making it more interesting..undertones of homophobia? | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " what direction was fab going in? | |||
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"It also have attracted lots of bifemale cpls too. So what ? " | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " Can gay men not "swing" then? | |||
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"Oooops I like Bi men Thank god for women like you x Its hot especially if im attracted to both and can join in well, I don't know about my looks but a woman is always welcome to muck in to my gay shenanigans Watching is just as hot lol I can keep myself entertained with my hand " And there was me hoping lol | |||
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"Hardly seen any gay men on here jut bi men but not as many as bi females" don’t forget the “fab straight “ | |||
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"It doesnt affect us , but it does affect the site. How may I ask?" Indeed, the answer could be very interesting and provide a clear insight | |||
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"It doesnt affect us , but it does affect the site. How may I ask? Indeed, the answer could be very interesting and provide a clear insight " Doubt you'll see them return to this thread | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " Where does it state that it’s strictly for Straight people !!!! I’m confused !!!! | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " Where does it state that it’s strictly for Straight people !!!! I’m confused !!!! | |||
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"Fab is reserved for straight couples only?" Where does it state that it’s strictly for Straight people !!!! I’m confused !!!! | |||
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"Fab is reserved for straight couples only?of course not but there's a whole other site dedicated specifically for gay and bi. " And there are many more sites for straight people and couples if you don’t want gay/ bi messaging block them on your settings !!!! | |||
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"The bi females don't seem to be being complained about changing the site and I'm sure gay women aren't complained about either. I don't understand. The more diversity the better surely. " Fabulous quote | |||
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"It's probably not attracting more gay men. More likely attracting straight men who then feel comfortable to explore their sexuality in a safe space. " Fabulous answer | |||
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"I agree! They need to get back to the gay sites! Don’t get me started on those bi women, in couples, making it difficult for any straight women in a couple to meet on couples meets- predatory they are, and fancy every woman. Same as those bi men who meet straight couples. And what’s with those trans people- stay what you’re born please- deceiving all those poor straight men (and looking fabulous!) And all those sickos into the Dom/sub shit should get on that other site. So, who’s left then? Straight men and straight women, sorted...let’s have fun...oh wait, I’m a bi woman who’s a sub...I’m off to have a cry now, as I’m not sure where I should belong now. I know!! On fab!! All inclusive- except for the fake profiles, they can bugger off Please don’t get offended, this is tongue in cheek x Viv xx " LOL FABULOUS | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " I don't think so - I think gay and bi men are feeling a bit more accepted nowadays and are signing on to a site that has heterosexuals too - the group that previously chided them. Seems like you're probably one of them. I don't see how having a bunch of gay or bi men on FS affects you or me nor does it "affect the site" as you put it. If they're not your preference don't message them. | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " Why are gay men making it "lose its direction" more than singles who aren't even swingers? | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago I don't think so - I think gay and bi men are feeling a bit more accepted nowadays and are signing on to a site that has heterosexuals too - the group that previously chided them. Seems like you're probably one of them. I don't see how having a bunch of gay or bi men on FS affects you or me nor does it "affect the site" as you put it. If they're not your preference don't message them." Well said | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. " | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " I agree with some of this. The real problem is those ignorant people (not just men alone, couples do it too) who don't read your profile preferences and contact you anyway asking for what you have said you will not share. | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " Lovely bum | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago They can smell the hoards of desperate 'straight' men eager to plunge any willing orifice....flies round shite " Is no one going to pay attention to how incredibly fucking offensive this is? | |||
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"Fab is reserved for straight couples only?of course not but there's a whole other site dedicated specifically for gay and bi. " The other site doesn't really cater for bi since theres no mf couples or single women looking for men (that ive seen anyway). | |||
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"I agree! They need to get back to the gay sites! Don’t get me started on those bi women, in couples, making it difficult for any straight women in a couple to meet on couples meets- predatory they are, and fancy every woman. Same as those bi men who meet straight couples. And what’s with those trans people- stay what you’re born please- deceiving all those poor straight men (and looking fabulous!) And all those sickos into the Dom/sub shit should get on that other site. So, who’s left then? Straight men and straight women, sorted...let’s have fun...oh wait, I’m a bi woman who’s a sub...I’m off to have a cry now, as I’m not sure where I should belong now. I know!! On fab!! All inclusive- except for the fake profiles, they can bugger off Please don’t get offended, this is tongue in cheek x Viv xx LOL FABULOUS " I agree, it's all revolting...imagine, today I was talking to the one half of a MM couple who was telling me he would love to see me in a MMF situation...what the hell is that all about?! And I thought of upsetting the moral order even more by dragging along some pervy MM couples with me for an evening at SX in Blackpool | |||
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"It doesnt affect us , but it does affect the site. " Several people have already asked you how but are still awaiting your answer, I too would love to hear it. | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. " So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago I've only been on Fab for 2 or 3 years. What did it set out to be originally? To me Fab is still a place for singles and couples of varying genders to find other singles and couples of varying genders to enjoy sexual encounters of varying descriptions with? There's a vast amount of scenarios for straight couples without even taking any degree of bisexuality into account, which it what makes Fab great. You can almost certainly find someone who shares your fantasy and is happy to be a part of it. Adding bisexuality into the mix just makes things all the more interesting, but it's not a requirement for the site " Well said | |||
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"so the forums have moved from: single male bashing to single gay/bi male bashing. what lovely tolerant people you are" They're trying to be inclusive so they dont get accused of discrimination | |||
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"so the forums have moved from: single male bashing to single gay/bi male bashing. what lovely tolerant people you are" No, just a very very small (minded) minority of people on here, the rest of us love the possibilities the diversity adds. We also love that everyone can come here and have some fun, whatever form that takes, even if they have committed the heinous crime of not being what we are looking for | |||
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"so the forums have moved from: single male bashing to single gay/bi male bashing. what lovely tolerant people you are No, just a very very small (minded) minority of people on here, the rest of us love the possibilities the diversity adds. We also love that everyone can come here and have some fun, whatever form that takes, even if they have committed the heinous crime of not being what we are looking for " | |||
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"I don't know about others,but I find it best to ignore and or pass on by those profiles that don't interest me. Has worked well for us so far" | |||
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"I can give "A very personal (fact) experience why fabswingers is attracting more "GAY MEN". But not "The" solution to your (In my opinion) Homophobic Ignorant Stupidity. I have stopped asking to meet up with couples anymore due to the "Fact" almost all i have communicated with about joining always yes always for whatever reason and believe me there have been hundreds of reasons from auntie dying to kids being ill so the "Wife" can't make it but would I still be interested in the arranged meet just with him and the wife will be there the next time "if all goes well." So maybe the "attraction" is being "attracted" by the lying cheating closet dweller the wife knows nothing about. I do also understand it's easier to compete with the same sex than it is the opposite sex but please don't panic or hyperventilate there is plenty to go round for all. " I agree. Forever being contracted by the male half of a so called straight couple. | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for?" There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations! | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations!" It used to be the case, but I think we've moved on. I hope so. | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations!" I think the days of having the neighbour's round and putting keys in a bowl for a bit of wife swapping are long gone, people really need to learn that progress will happen with or without their approval | |||
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"The people who would be most upset at gay men not being allowed on the site are the "straight" men who contact us " Presumably you believe these guys are straight based upon what they claim on their profile? Lol | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations!" We couldn't agree more. A broader definition is much more fun, even if it is for other people who don't interest us or who are not interested in what we have to offer. Someone, somewhere is having a shed load of fun that wasn't what we were looking for the first place, how does that bother anyone? | |||
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"I wish I could post my messages and winks , 90% are of straight men , most say there married on there profile, that says it all really, so many men are still too scared to be who they really are , homophobia is still around ( as we have all read above ) why can’t people live and let live , if you don’t like gay males , block us , we won’t be offended, " See my new status | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations! I think the days of having the neighbour's round and putting keys in a bowl for a bit of wife swapping are long gone, people really need to learn that progress will happen with or without their approval " Exactly, the 70s are long gone, and the boring 70s definition of swinging should have gone out with the nasty brown and orange home decor of the time! Not only is it more fun to broaden the definition, it gives women more agency as well. I think the implication of the wives as property that comes with “husband’s car keys in a bowl” is pretty gross actually and I’d never agree to something that meant I had no say in who I play with. I think by and large that thinking is gone and good riddance to it. | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " so many are bi curious too but hiding for some reason. | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations! We couldn't agree more. A broader definition is much more fun, even if it is for other people who don't interest us or who are not interested in what we have to offer. Someone, somewhere is having a shed load of fun that wasn't what we were looking for the first place, how does that bother anyone? " By that old definition, I shouldn’t be here either - a solo bi woman who plays with singles, couples and more of any gender. But what I’m doing definitely isn’t just hooking up, so if I wasn’t allowed to call it swinging what would it be? Whatever it is, it’s a lot of fun, so I’m not about to stop! | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations! I think the days of having the neighbour's round and putting keys in a bowl for a bit of wife swapping are long gone, people really need to learn that progress will happen with or without their approval Exactly, the 70s are long gone, and the boring 70s definition of swinging should have gone out with the nasty brown and orange home decor of the time! Not only is it more fun to broaden the definition, it gives women more agency as well. I think the implication of the wives as property that comes with “husband’s car keys in a bowl” is pretty gross actually and I’d never agree to something that meant I had no say in who I play with. I think by and large that thinking is gone and good riddance to it." What's wrong with brown and orange decor? Jeez people are so judgemental on here | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations! We couldn't agree more. A broader definition is much more fun, even if it is for other people who don't interest us or who are not interested in what we have to offer. Someone, somewhere is having a shed load of fun that wasn't what we were looking for the first place, how does that bother anyone? " I think we didn’t put what we meant very well and it’s lead to some confusion. We think there is a difference between single Male swingers and single men looking for a shag. The Male swingers know how to conduct themselves nicely and put out a class act. The males looking for a shag are just Abysmal is comparison. With this there is no difference between gay, bi or straight. | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations! I think the days of having the neighbour's round and putting keys in a bowl for a bit of wife swapping are long gone, people really need to learn that progress will happen with or without their approval Exactly, the 70s are long gone, and the boring 70s definition of swinging should have gone out with the nasty brown and orange home decor of the time! Not only is it more fun to broaden the definition, it gives women more agency as well. I think the implication of the wives as property that comes with “husband’s car keys in a bowl” is pretty gross actually and I’d never agree to something that meant I had no say in who I play with. I think by and large that thinking is gone and good riddance to it. What's wrong with brown and orange decor? Jeez people are so judgemental on here " Lol sorry, my bad! It was just so overwhelmingly still present (along with mustard accents) as a little un in the early 80s that it left a permanent impression! | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations! We couldn't agree more. A broader definition is much more fun, even if it is for other people who don't interest us or who are not interested in what we have to offer. Someone, somewhere is having a shed load of fun that wasn't what we were looking for the first place, how does that bother anyone? I think we didn’t put what we meant very well and it’s lead to some confusion. We think there is a difference between single Male swingers and single men looking for a shag. The Male swingers know how to conduct themselves nicely and put out a class act. The males looking for a shag are just Abysmal is comparison. With this there is no difference between gay, bi or straight. " Ah, thank you for the clarification, and my apologies for being so quick to assume (single male bashing get tedious... we're capable of bashing ourselves ) | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations! We couldn't agree more. A broader definition is much more fun, even if it is for other people who don't interest us or who are not interested in what we have to offer. Someone, somewhere is having a shed load of fun that wasn't what we were looking for the first place, how does that bother anyone? I think we didn’t put what we meant very well and it’s lead to some confusion. We think there is a difference between single Male swingers and single men looking for a shag. The Male swingers know how to conduct themselves nicely and put out a class act. The males looking for a shag are just Abysmal is comparison. With this there is no difference between gay, bi or straight. " I’d have to agree with that tbh, the amount of “single” men in my inbox who think it’s a hook-up site is astonishing. The closest they get to swinging is “I’d love to have a threesome with two girls” | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations! We couldn't agree more. A broader definition is much more fun, even if it is for other people who don't interest us or who are not interested in what we have to offer. Someone, somewhere is having a shed load of fun that wasn't what we were looking for the first place, how does that bother anyone? By that old definition, I shouldn’t be here either - a solo bi woman who plays with singles, couples and more of any gender. But what I’m doing definitely isn’t just hooking up, so if I wasn’t allowed to call it swinging what would it be? Whatever it is, it’s a lot of fun, so I’m not about to stop!" By the old definition, most of us shouldn't be here. As a couple we are half straight, half bi. We aren't here looking for a straight swap spefically, we have a much wider range of interests than that. Plus we pretty much have that covered already in the 'real world'..... unless we can be tempted that is To be honest, if the definition of swinging was a straight swapping, keys in a bowl type gig, we wouldn't bother being on here. | |||
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"It doesnt affect us , but it does affect the site. How? Are you implying gay men have a negative impact? " It seems to me that they really dont want to stand by that statement | |||
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"so the forums have moved from: single male bashing to single gay/bi male bashing. what lovely tolerant people you are" A tuakly. I thought the thread was refreshingly open and pro bi and gay men. A few comments aside | |||
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"Suspect this thread has answered the OP’s comments, from my perspective there is a lot of “I’ve a right” memetic. Instead of let’s all have fun. I have no problems with gay/bi people (wife is bi, through her own choice), however when I get messages, there has been a fair few, more frequently than a year ago, saying “I could turn you”, especially when it says I’m straight, where is the respect? That’s taking the fun out of swinging for me, I dare not have banter because of the PC get out of jail card. Ladies stand up for this type of abuse, your not receiving it. I love fun, I don’t like attempts to corner me. And that is how it is coming across sometimes, more over the last year. Just giving my perspective." Block men then. You say we don’t get abuse, how is this any worse than the threats of being forced that we all too often receive? | |||
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"Suspect this thread has answered the OP’s comments, from my perspective there is a lot of “I’ve a right” memetic. Instead of let’s all have fun. I have no problems with gay/bi people (wife is bi, through her own choice), however when I get messages, there has been a fair few, more frequently than a year ago, saying “I could turn you”, especially when it says I’m straight, where is the respect? That’s taking the fun out of swinging for me, I dare not have banter because of the PC get out of jail card. Ladies stand up for this type of abuse, your not receiving it. I love fun, I don’t like attempts to corner me. And that is how it is coming across sometimes, more over the last year. Just giving my perspective." "I could turn you" omg that's the equivalent of blokes who think they can turn a lesbian straight. Theres a reason why I dont like people and have been social distancing for years, if someones straight, bi or gay that's what they are it's as simple as that. | |||
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"Suspect this thread has answered the OP’s comments, from my perspective there is a lot of “I’ve a right” memetic. Instead of let’s all have fun. I have no problems with gay/bi people (wife is bi, through her own choice), however when I get messages, there has been a fair few, more frequently than a year ago, saying “I could turn you”, especially when it says I’m straight, where is the respect? That’s taking the fun out of swinging for me, I dare not have banter because of the PC get out of jail card. Ladies stand up for this type of abuse, your not receiving it. I love fun, I don’t like attempts to corner me. And that is how it is coming across sometimes, more over the last year. Just giving my perspective. Block men then. You say we don’t get abuse, how is this any worse than the threats of being forced that we all too often receive?" Why? (Value question) Should we bow to abusive people? (Behaviour) Do that on here? (Environment). For information , I didn’t say you didn’t get abuse, I said I did. Don’t project, it’s unhealthy. | |||
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"Suspect this thread has answered the OP’s comments, from my perspective there is a lot of “I’ve a right” memetic. Instead of let’s all have fun. I have no problems with gay/bi people (wife is bi, through her own choice), however when I get messages, there has been a fair few, more frequently than a year ago, saying “I could turn you”, especially when it says I’m straight, where is the respect? That’s taking the fun out of swinging for me, I dare not have banter because of the PC get out of jail card. Ladies stand up for this type of abuse, your not receiving it. I love fun, I don’t like attempts to corner me. And that is how it is coming across sometimes, more over the last year. Just giving my perspective. Block men then. You say we don’t get abuse, how is this any worse than the threats of being forced that we all too often receive?" Unless it is considerably worse than someone suggesting they can "turn you" then you don't have a great deal to worry about and maybe some perspective would stop it "taking the fun out of swinging" for you. You are right, it isn't very respectful, hardly breaking news that there are disrespectful people on the internet. How dare you suggest that women don't suffer far worse abuse on here than disrespect. Has anyone threatened to force you? Suggested they know where you live and they are going to hurt you? Have you previously been forced to leave this site and others because of abuse and stalking from very persistent nut jobs? This is just personal experience, many many people could tell you of similar things they have been through. Nobody I have seen here is standing up for any type of abuse, if that is the worst to happen to you then you are firmly engaged with the thin end of the wedge, maybe easily enough solved with a thicker skin and learning how to block people you don't wish to communicate with | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago They can smell the hoards of desperate 'straight' men eager to plunge any willing orifice....flies round shite Is no one going to pay attention to how incredibly fucking offensive this is?" Nobody ever does lily, even if you report it to admin they do fuck all... I wouldn’t let people like this bother you, you have to put it down to how sad the couple who started this forum are.. or maybe just not getting any meets.. ! Let’s start to get real here | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago They can smell the hoards of desperate 'straight' men eager to plunge any willing orifice....flies round shite Is no one going to pay attention to how incredibly fucking offensive this is? Nobody ever does lily, even if you report it to admin they do fuck all... I wouldn’t let people like this bother you, you have to put it down to how sad the couple who started this forum are.. or maybe just not getting any meets.. ! Let’s start to get real here " Missed that comment, seems there are too many morons around to see every stupid offensive thing they have to spout. Easier said than done, but don't let it bother you (as much as that is possible) is good advice | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago They can smell the hoards of desperate 'straight' men eager to plunge any willing orifice....flies round shite Is no one going to pay attention to how incredibly fucking offensive this is? Nobody ever does lily, even if you report it to admin they do fuck all... I wouldn’t let people like this bother you, you have to put it down to how sad the couple who started this forum are.. or maybe just not getting any meets.. ! Let’s start to get real here " I think the comment was removed, we can always hope. I didn't see it when it was posted it I certainly would have said something. | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago They can smell the hoards of desperate 'straight' men eager to plunge any willing orifice....flies round shite Is no one going to pay attention to how incredibly fucking offensive this is? Nobody ever does lily, even if you report it to admin they do fuck all... I wouldn’t let people like this bother you, you have to put it down to how sad the couple who started this forum are.. or maybe just not getting any meets.. ! Let’s start to get real here I think the comment was removed, we can always hope. I didn't see it when it was posted it I certainly would have said something. " It was reported xx | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, " But your profile says you joined six months ago | |||
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"i don't think much has changed about fab i just think people from minority groups are gaining confidence with this newfound acceptance of different ways of living your life and so they should they are people and many are nice people, live and let live i say " | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations! We couldn't agree more. A broader definition is much more fun, even if it is for other people who don't interest us or who are not interested in what we have to offer. Someone, somewhere is having a shed load of fun that wasn't what we were looking for the first place, how does that bother anyone? I think we didn’t put what we meant very well and it’s lead to some confusion. We think there is a difference between single Male swingers and single men looking for a shag. The Male swingers know how to conduct themselves nicely and put out a class act. The males looking for a shag are just Abysmal is comparison. With this there is no difference between gay, bi or straight. " And your opinion on single female swingers please. | |||
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"Swingers would be nice. Not hordes of singles guys trying to get a leg over. So single people cant be swingers? Does that theory also apply to single women? I started my swinging journey as half of a couple, does the fact that I'm no longer in a relationship mean that I cant be a swinger anymore? If that's the case then how are the couples that want 3sums going to achieve what they are looking for? There seems to be a belief in some quarters that only straight couples who meet other straight couples for full swap are really swingers. Which is very boring as it ignores all the other fun combinations! We couldn't agree more. A broader definition is much more fun, even if it is for other people who don't interest us or who are not interested in what we have to offer. Someone, somewhere is having a shed load of fun that wasn't what we were looking for the first place, how does that bother anyone? I think we didn’t put what we meant very well and it’s lead to some confusion. We think there is a difference between single Male swingers and single men looking for a shag. The Male swingers know how to conduct themselves nicely and put out a class act. The males looking for a shag are just Abysmal is comparison. With this there is no difference between gay, bi or straight. And your opinion on single female swingers please. " As of yet, all the ladies that approach us show respect and an understanding of the scene. Where for men it’s only about 1 in 20 that know how to swing and be respectful. | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " As long as profiles are set up correctly by everyone then the search facility and filters will work for everyone. Don’t see what the problem is with having a more diverse group of people using the site, something for EVERYONE. | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " Yes it's shocking .. soon it will be over run by poofters.. | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago Yes it's shocking .. soon it will be over run by poofters.. " We can then change the name to FABULOUS SWINGERS | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " Gay men? But gay women aren't an issue I assume? | |||
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"Many couples on fab only think couples are swingers, they think singles are just an accessory for their sex lives. " And being an accessory for a couple is bad how? | |||
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"Many couples on fab only think couples are swingers, they think singles are just an accessory for their sex lives. " And then get offended when unicorns don't bow down to their superior couple ness. | |||
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"Many couples on fab only think couples are swingers, they think singles are just an accessory for their sex lives. " There's a lot of gatekeeping on fab. Some say only couples should be on here. Others say only those over 40 should be on here and younger folk should be 'out and about'. Now people are complaining about sexuality. For a swinging website people sure are close-minded. | |||
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"I think the corruption of Fabswingers.com has already started....the other day a fellow poofter was telling me how he would love to see me doing bisexual MMF threesome. " Oh no! I'll have to observe. You know. To assess the threat | |||
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"I think the corruption of Fabswingers.com has already started....the other day a fellow poofter was telling me how he would love to see me doing bisexual MMF threesome. Oh no! I'll have to observe. You know. To assess the threat " I didn’t know you were that kind of woman....maybe something to consider at the next Pandemonium event? | |||
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"I think the corruption of Fabswingers.com has already started....the other day a fellow poofter was telling me how he would love to see me doing bisexual MMF threesome. " That’s disgusting, I hope you reported it ?? | |||
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"I’m more worried about the appearance of cam girls pretending to be genuine women only here for the financial boost to their fan site . Since only fans hit the internet this site has changed big time . It’s a lot more like Facebook and Instagram now as well in certain aspects . " I'm accused of this daily, often with really vile insults and blocking. I mean really upsetting stuff. Incidentally, I'm a chubby middle aged mum and NOT a sex worker! I don't understand the poisonous vitriol for sex workers on Fab when there's none for the hundreds of men who offer the women here money! Times are hard and sex workers are often vulnerable people. | |||
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"I’m more worried about the appearance of cam girls pretending to be genuine women only here for the financial boost to their fan site . Since only fans hit the internet this site has changed big time . It’s a lot more like Facebook and Instagram now as well in certain aspects . I'm accused of this daily, often with really vile insults and blocking. I mean really upsetting stuff. Incidentally, I'm a chubby middle aged mum and NOT a sex worker! I don't understand the poisonous vitriol for sex workers on Fab when there's none for the hundreds of men who offer the women here money! Times are hard and sex workers are often vulnerable people." Yup. And apparently I must be a sex worker in disguise because I don't go running to a cock over a toilet who knows what soap is. I'm also the Queen of England | |||
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" I'm accused of this daily, often with really vile insults and blocking. I mean really upsetting stuff. Incidentally, I'm a chubby middle aged mum and NOT a sex worker! I don't understand the poisonous vitriol for sex workers on Fab when there's none for the hundreds of men who offer the women here money! Times are hard and sex workers are often vulnerable people." I don't know if you're referring to the post you've quoted, but I think it's less against sex workers, and more against people being insincere. Imagine you're talking to someone who appears genuine with no mention of being a sex worker, only for them to direct you to their fan page to buy videos a few messages down the line. It's quite common | |||
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"Oooops I like Bi men Thank god for women like you x Its hot especially if im attracted to both and can join in " Amen , bi guys r hot | |||
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"I’m more worried about the appearance of cam girls pretending to be genuine women only here for the financial boost to their fan site . Since only fans hit the internet this site has changed big time . It’s a lot more like Facebook and Instagram now as well in certain aspects . I'm accused of this daily, often with really vile insults and blocking. I mean really upsetting stuff. Incidentally, I'm a chubby middle aged mum and NOT a sex worker! I don't understand the poisonous vitriol for sex workers on Fab when there's none for the hundreds of men who offer the women here money! Times are hard and sex workers are often vulnerable people." Hiya, I hope you dont mind but I've just mentioned your in another thread about guys over 45....you are the perfect example of things on there to me so apologies for pointing you out. P.s...you have been on my hotlist forever | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago Gay men? But gay women aren't an issue I assume? I think they would be, couples only want bi women after all. Ugh those same sex attracted women who won't do their duty to the superior men with female appendages. How dare they!" So rude of them! | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago Gay men? But gay women aren't an issue I assume? I think they would be, couples only want bi women after all." Yeah but coz its wimmin its not gay innit | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago Gay men? But gay women aren't an issue I assume? I think they would be, couples only want bi women after all. Yeah but coz its wimmin its not gay innit " Women play with women to entertain men, which is hot because it's for men. Men who play with men don't entertain straight men, therefore it's icky. | |||
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"Over the last year or so fab seems to be drawing more gay men then before, i think its losing its direction in what it set out to be years ago " I totally disagree batgirl! Your husband's quite a dish isn't he? | |||
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"Many couples on fab only think couples are swingers, they think singles are just an accessory for their sex lives. And being an accessory for a couple is bad how? " | |||
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" I'm accused of this daily, often with really vile insults and blocking. I mean really upsetting stuff. Incidentally, I'm a chubby middle aged mum and NOT a sex worker! I don't understand the poisonous vitriol for sex workers on Fab when there's none for the hundreds of men who offer the women here money! Times are hard and sex workers are often vulnerable people. I don't know if you're referring to the post you've quoted, but I think it's less against sex workers, and more against people being insincere. Imagine you're talking to someone who appears genuine with no mention of being a sex worker, only for them to direct you to their fan page to buy videos a few messages down the line. It's quite common " So after a few messages you realise someone isn’t the sort of person you want to interact with? That applies to 99.999% of the people I message, darling. Welcome to my world! When someone exposes themselves as being married, nasty, bigoted, misogynistic, vegan, disingenuous, Tory, or anything else, I stop messaging them. I don’t see it as destroying the very fabric of Fab. | |||
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"Many couples on fab only think couples are swingers, they think singles are just an accessory for their sex lives. And being an accessory for a couple is bad how? " It's not for me personally lol. | |||
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"Fabguys caters for gay men " So does fabswingers | |||
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"Fabguys caters for gay men So does fabswingers " | |||
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" So after a few messages you realise someone isn’t the sort of person you want to interact with? That applies to 99.999% of the people I message, darling. Welcome to my world! When someone exposes themselves as being married, nasty, bigoted, misogynistic, vegan, disingenuous, Tory, or anything else, I stop messaging them. I don’t see it as destroying the very fabric of Fab." I agree, it's the part and parcel of fab (and other sites). What I meant was I don't think it's anger directed to *all* sex workers in general, just the few on here who pretend to be interested in you. | |||
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" I'm accused of this daily, often with really vile insults and blocking. I mean really upsetting stuff. Incidentally, I'm a chubby middle aged mum and NOT a sex worker! I don't understand the poisonous vitriol for sex workers on Fab when there's none for the hundreds of men who offer the women here money! Times are hard and sex workers are often vulnerable people. I don't know if you're referring to the post you've quoted, but I think it's less against sex workers, and more against people being insincere. Imagine you're talking to someone who appears genuine with no mention of being a sex worker, only for them to direct you to their fan page to buy videos a few messages down the line. It's quite common So after a few messages you realise someone isn’t the sort of person you want to interact with? That applies to 99.999% of the people I message, darling. Welcome to my world! When someone exposes themselves as being married, nasty, bigoted, misogynistic, vegan, disingenuous, Tory, or anything else, I stop messaging them. I don’t see it as destroying the very fabric of Fab." Well said | |||
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