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"probably more attractive ???? Oh my days !!!! lalalalalala I have no words" Ive words but bein a lady im.just screaming them in my head.....for awhile anyhow....getting a complex from fab as now im.not attractive aswell as brain dead...(see jeremey kyle thread)....no hope for me anymore off to bottom of garden to eat some worms... | |||
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"hookers probably more attractive than swingers !!!!! how to make friends and influence people ... this should keep me amused out at work today (yayy for mobile internet) " twas thinking the same will keep me giggling on my tea breaks | |||
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"Lol omg . Well let me see. I think personally you should stick to the hookers as with a attitude like that no ones going to give you time of day unless your paying for it. You also say your playing on side . So basically even your wife does not want to fuck you. Suggest you take a lesson in manners before meeting anyone. " It's men like this i fear to find! | |||
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"question to spark32 -- have you met anyone from this site or do you just sit there diddling on cam?" I was thinking the same. | |||
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"Lol omg . Well let me see. I think personally you should stick to the hookers as with a attitude like that no ones going to give you time of day unless your paying for it. You also say your playing on side . So basically even your wife does not want to fuck you. Suggest you take a lesson in manners before meeting anyone. " | |||
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"question to spark32 -- have you met anyone from this site or do you just sit there diddling on cam? I was thinking the same. " Then again... Maybe his life is soooooooooo busy being gods gift that he doesn't have time to meet real people | |||
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"For a married guy playing on the side (and leaving aside the rights and wrongs of that scenario) which is better? Swinging - free and properly into it. Hookers - definitely no strings, easier to arrange, probably more attractive. Thoughts?" and this is probably one of the reasons why married guys get such a hard time... a lot of them think of it as "free sex" and compare it the way you did anyway... i am not going to get drawn in to what could be carnage.. i am off to work | |||
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"If you look close enough you can have a hooker gratis, then all your boxes are ticked without even opening your wallet " "If your really lucky you'll get one that's a swinger and a hooker as theres more than a few ... " Just don't mention AW till after the deed or you risk paying lol | |||
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"For a married guy playing on the side (and leaving aside the rights and wrongs of that scenario) which is better? Swinging - free and properly into it. Hookers - definitely no strings, easier to arrange, probably more attractive. Thoughts?" and with 1 wave of your magic keyboard wand, you end all hope of ever meeting. lol | |||
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"For a married guy playing on the side (and leaving aside the rights and wrongs of that scenario) which is better? Swinging - free and properly into it. Hookers - definitely no strings, easier to arrange, probably more attractive. Thoughts? and this is probably one of the reasons why married guys get such a hard time... a lot of them think of it as "free sex" and compare it the way you did anyway... i am not going to get drawn in to what could be carnage.. i am off to work" | |||
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"For a married guy playing on the side (and leaving aside the rights and wrongs of that scenario) which is better? Swinging - free and properly into it. Hookers - definitely no strings, easier to arrange, probably more attractive. Thoughts?" I'm guessing you're not normally awake this early, as you've really not thought this through, hey handsome. | |||
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"Im no hooker but Im not exactly shabby ... and my mate Doris is a right looker too - if you don't mind her wonky eye and gums" | |||
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"Wow, I didn't expect that much vitriol. As it goes, I haven't done either, I was just putting the question out there to see the reaction. The more attractive comments is subjective, I'll grant you. What I was really trying to get at is that you can choose someone that fits exactly your type. You see, it's easy for women to get what they want on here. It's a LOT more difficult for guys. Id' be interested in some male opinions on this... I personally don't see a huge difference apart from the financial transaction. You both know what you're there for and you both get what you want out of it." Swinging is nothing like being a hocker thay do it cold for money ... its not that thay even like sex some of them.... for alot its just a way of feeding there familys and paying bills ........ for me its nothing to do with that money it dont come into this as its fun and friends and if we have sex and fun its because we all wished too .. | |||
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" I personally don't see a huge difference apart from the financial transaction. You both know what you're there for and you both get what you want out of it." wow this just gets better and better so all women on here are no different to hookers in your view except they are cheaper a finer showing of male disrespect i have not seen for some time. where is the really angry smiley when you need one | |||
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"Wow, I didn't expect that much vitriol. As it goes, I haven't done either, I was just putting the question out there to see the reaction. The more attractive comments is subjective, I'll grant you. What I was really trying to get at is that you can choose someone that fits exactly your type. You see, it's easy for women to get what they want on here. It's a LOT more difficult for guys. Id' be interested in some male opinions on this... I personally don't see a huge difference apart from the financial transaction. You both know what you're there for and you both get what you want out of it." are you suggesting women on here are unpaid prostitutes ?? Don't think you have much repsect for any woman, including your wife | |||
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" I personally don't see a huge difference apart from the financial transaction. You both know what you're there for and you both get what you want out of it. wow this just gets better and better so all women on here are no different to hookers in your view except they are cheaper a finer showing of male disrespect i have not seen for some time. where is the really angry smiley when you need one " Excellent, that's not what I said at all. | |||
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"Wow, I didn't expect that much vitriol. As it goes, I haven't done either, I was just putting the question out there to see the reaction. The more attractive comments is subjective, I'll grant you. What I was really trying to get at is that you can choose someone that fits exactly your type. You see, it's easy for women to get what they want on here. It's a LOT more difficult for guys. Id' be interested in some male opinions on this... I personally don't see a huge difference apart from the financial transaction. You both know what you're there for and you both get what you want out of it. are you suggesting women on here are unpaid prostitutes ?? Don't think you have much repsect for any woman, including your wife" Where did I say that? | |||
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"think I'll draw up a price list lol" Lets take this to private | |||
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"You're right, it is different. I'm aware of that. But both things satisfy the same itch, albeit in a different way. I've maybe put this across in the wrong way, and if people are offended, I apologise." You are saying its sex ........ well with a hocker it would be as your paying and its her job ....... but with a woman from here its not there job and thay can say no .... and just meet untill thay feel thay like you to have sex or play ... thay have choices as its not there job. | |||
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"You're right, it is different. I'm aware of that. But both things satisfy the same itch, albeit in a different way. I've maybe put this across in the wrong way, and if people are offended, I apologise. You are saying its sex ........ well with a hocker it would be as your paying and its her job ....... but with a woman from here its not there job and thay can say no .... and just meet untill thay feel thay like you to have sex or play ... thay have choices as its not there job." I know. There's a difference. That was kind of my point. | |||
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"In all honesty his question was a genuine one but it all went downhill when he said hookers are more attractive than swingers ! Personally speaking I would think that if the wife found out either way then a home castration would prob be performed ! Its not a question that can be truly answered ignoring the Whole is it right is it wrong question ! Fact is if you need extra in a relationship then masturbation it is lol " haha now that's a good answer. In retrospect, I probably should have left that bit out. | |||
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"Wow, I didn't expect that much vitriol. As it goes, I haven't done either, I was just putting the question out there to see the reaction. The more attractive comments is subjective, I'll grant you. What I was really trying to get at is that you can choose someone that fits exactly your type. You see, it's easy for women to get what they want on here. It's a LOT more difficult for guys. Id' be interested in some male opinions on this... I personally don't see a huge difference apart from the financial transaction. You both know what you're there for and you both get what you want out of it." There are times when to keep digging just makes the hole deeper... If you can't / don't see the difference ..... . oh dear.. | |||
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"You're right, it is different. I'm aware of that. But both things satisfy the same itch, albeit in a different way. I've maybe put this across in the wrong way, and if people are offended, I apologise. You are saying its sex ........ well with a hocker it would be as your paying and its her job ....... but with a woman from here its not there job and thay can say no .... and just meet untill thay feel thay like you to have sex or play ... thay have choices as its not there job. I know. There's a difference. That was kind of my point. " Thing is when its there job your paying you call the tune ... when your not you dont. x | |||
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"jcb anyone??" juicy chocolate blowjob, much ? | |||
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"Wow, I didn't expect that much vitriol. As it goes, I haven't done either, I was just putting the question out there to see the reaction. The more attractive comments is subjective, I'll grant you. What I was really trying to get at is that you can choose someone that fits exactly your type. You see, it's easy for women to get what they want on here. It's a LOT more difficult for guys. Id' be interested in some male opinions on this... I personally don't see a huge difference apart from the financial transaction. You both know what you're there for and you both get what you want out of it. There are times when to keep digging just makes the hole deeper... If you can't / don't see the difference ..... . oh dear.. " Go on then, enlighten me. There's a mutual attraction in swinging meets, and obviously no financial element, but the basic reason for being there is exactly the same. Bear in mind I'm coming at this from a 'playing on the side' point of view. Which, if you're offended by per se, then you're not going to see past it. | |||
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"Umm.. i know this might sound strange... and completely outside of the box... but... i dunno..... how about maybe..... YOUR WIFE?!?! " he maybe carnt aford her charges lol | |||
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"For a married guy playing on the side (and leaving aside the rights and wrongs of that scenario) which is better? Swinging - free and properly into it. Hookers - definitely no strings, easier to arrange, probably more attractive. Thoughts?" In answer to your question ( be it not very flattering to swingers question) It depends on if you want sex with someone who is doing it for fun or money....ie do you want them to want you or your pay packet. | |||
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"jcb anyone?? juicy chocolate blowjob, much ? " oh yes!! choccy blow jobs.. nah I meant for the hole that's being dug.. | |||
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"Lol omg . Well let me see. I think personally you should stick to the hookers as with a attitude like that no ones going to give you time of day unless your paying for it. You also say your playing on side . So basically even your wife does not want to fuck you. Suggest you take a lesson in manners before meeting anyone. " | |||
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"your average street walker is generally hooked on some form of abuse, and HAS to do that kind of WORK to sustain thier habits. they dont enjoy it, as much as you would LOVE to believe you are a sexual god. swingers do it because they enjoy intimacy with others. they WANT to do it. they dont HAVE to. which is why the chances of you getting anywhere are very small now, seeings as you have called swingers less attractive than hookers. have you seen some? lower down the scope than your highclass hookers and even then some of them arent great lookin) you come into the realms crackwhores. good luck to ya. come away with more than you bargained for with them" Who said anything about crack whores? lol | |||
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"For a married guy playing on the side (and leaving aside the rights and wrongs of that scenario) which is better? Swinging - free and properly into it. Hookers - definitely no strings, easier to arrange, probably more attractive. Thoughts?" Interesting lol | |||
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"The fact he has a wife is not really here are there as long as its up front, plenty of wives playing away on here just so many people get all moral on that, but if all people were the same life would be boring and how upset do you get when non swingers generalise you??? I can see where the op is coming from but it's again to generalistic, almost saying swingers are just going to have sex with you just because!!!!!!! The best response I get is from goin on cam and building up a rapport, I dont leave many messages anymore but when I do they almost never get responded to, the person can't get a feeling of your personality at all, so go on cam (face not cock) and you may well reap some reward" Thankyou. The idea taht I'm some sort of moral pariah because I'm on here looking for a bit on the side is ridiculous. I'm certainly not the only one, and at least I'm up front about it. I'm aware that people aren't going to have sex with you at the drop of a hat. That was sort of my point. | |||
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"classic thread...all credit to the OP for coming up with this one. Especially the 'probably more attractive' line Respect pal *holds out fist*" Haha *fist bump* | |||
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"Seriously though....it is a good question....what would people rather do, pay or have fun with someone who isn't being paid " I'd like to get paid to do it lol | |||
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"Seriously though....it is a good question....what would people rather do, pay or have fun with someone who isn't being paid " its not a job for hockers it is ..... swingers pick and dont for money thay do it because thay like love sex with people ... you pay to be in control ... you pay because your hard-up cant pull on sites like this .... you pay because you dont wish to get close ... its just cold sex with hockers . | |||
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"Tell you what, this site would be good for SEO. My profile views are through the roof." we need a face , lol | |||
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"Tell you what, this site would be good for SEO. My profile views are through the roof.we need a face , lol" Well now, posting a face pic after this would be stupid wouldn't it? lol | |||
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"23p!! cheap skate " Thanks I reckon I'm worth a quid at least!!!! | |||
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"Tell you what, this site would be good for SEO. My profile views are through the roof.we need a face , lol Well now, posting a face pic after this would be stupid wouldn't it? lol" yes but i cant help thinking what you look like x | |||
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"same question as is asked to all 'cheaters' that say theyre up front? does your missus know? if not, then you arent really that up front are you, so dont fool yourself by saying just cuz you arent the only one, doesnt make it right or correct. and no, you never said crack whores, however, unless you want to spend thousands then thats the range you are going into. £20 for a gummy blow job. " Sorry that's just bollocks. There's a middle ground between thousands of pounds and twenty quid. And I never said it was right or correct to play behind someone's back. I was just asking the question from that point of view. Do you think it would be better to pretend to be single then? | |||
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"Tell you what, this site would be good for SEO. My profile views are through the roof.we need a face , lol Well now, posting a face pic after this would be stupid wouldn't it? lol yes but i cant help thinking what you look like x " Lol you'll have to keep guessing. | |||
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"Tell you what, this site would be good for SEO. My profile views are through the roof.we need a face , lol Well now, posting a face pic after this would be stupid wouldn't it? lol yes but i cant help thinking what you look like x Lol you'll have to keep guessing." ok that can be very erotic ,,,, the gessing games . lol i love erotic games its my thing x | |||
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"I will start the bidding at 23p !" Your meant to run that past me first | |||
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"23p!! cheap skate Thanks I reckon I'm worth a quid at least!!!! " Ok how about the 10p I just found down the couch...23p out my pocket plus the fluff and a button....last offer ! | |||
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"23p!! cheap skate " I was working up...see next offer | |||
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"23p!! cheap skate Thanks I reckon I'm worth a quid at least!!!! Ok how about the 10p I just found down the couch...23p out my pocket plus the fluff and a button....last offer !" Is that belly button fluff???? | |||
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"same question as is asked to all 'cheaters' that say theyre up front? does your missus know? if not, then you arent really that up front are you, so dont fool yourself by saying just cuz you arent the only one, doesnt make it right or correct. and no, you never said crack whores, however, unless you want to spend thousands then thats the range you are going into. £20 for a gummy blow job. Sorry that's just bollocks. There's a middle ground between thousands of pounds and twenty quid. And I never said it was right or correct to play behind someone's back. I was just asking the question from that point of view. Do you think it would be better to pretend to be single then?" of course it wouldnt, how absurd. i think it would be better to work your marriage out or let the poor woman free to find someone that wants to commit to her and not play behind her back, but thats not what this thread is about. still, the middle ground isnt all about women that look like (enter generic sexy famous person here). they are normal people, you know, just like female swingers, so what makes them more attractive? | |||
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"23p!! cheap skate Thanks I reckon I'm worth a quid at least!!!! Ok how about the 10p I just found down the couch...23p out my pocket plus the fluff and a button....last offer ! Is that belly button fluff???? " No, just run of the mill pocket fluff. | |||
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"23p!! cheap skate I was working up...see next offer " Good thinking, you will soon be madam with that head on your shoulders and i can retire to the costa | |||
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"Run of the mill fluff pmsl now is it blue??? Love the fact there is such a thing as run of the mill fluff" lol no, it's grey....blue is Belly button fluff....grey is pocket fluff....gawd you have no idea of fluff colours have you? | |||
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"same question as is asked to all 'cheaters' that say theyre up front? does your missus know? if not, then you arent really that up front are you, so dont fool yourself by saying just cuz you arent the only one, doesnt make it right or correct. and no, you never said crack whores, however, unless you want to spend thousands then thats the range you are going into. £20 for a gummy blow job. Sorry that's just bollocks. There's a middle ground between thousands of pounds and twenty quid. And I never said it was right or correct to play behind someone's back. I was just asking the question from that point of view. Do you think it would be better to pretend to be single then? of course it wouldnt, how absurd. i think it would be better to work your marriage out or let the poor woman free to find someone that wants to commit to her and not play behind her back, but thats not what this thread is about. still, the middle ground isnt all about women that look like (enter generic sexy famous person here). they are normal people, you know, just like female swingers, so what makes them more attractive?" Ok, I'll say again, I've not done either of these things. It was a hypothetical question. Do you think it's possible to have a good marriage but want a little extra thrill every now and then? I'd say it is. I'd also say it's biologically built in. | |||
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"Run of the mill fluff pmsl now is it blue??? Love the fact there is such a thing as run of the mill fluff lol no, it's grey....blue is Belly button fluff....grey is pocket fluff....gawd you have no idea of fluff colours have you? " Do they do courses on these sorts of things?? I'm feeling like I need to be educated on fluff colours causes and cures!!!!!! | |||
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"I don't think you have to justify yourself to anyone. It is a shame people don't just answer your question." lol that would be nice. | |||
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"Run of the mill fluff pmsl now is it blue??? Love the fact there is such a thing as run of the mill fluff lol no, it's grey....blue is Belly button fluff....grey is pocket fluff....gawd you have no idea of fluff colours have you? Do they do courses on these sorts of things?? I'm feeling like I need to be educated on fluff colours causes and cures!!!!!! " Yes, they cost 23p, see you should have taken it | |||
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"Surely you're all playing away, it's just that you admit it. Does that mean you've got shit marriages too? I'd say that the majority of swinging is initiated by or driven by the man. Why? Because he's bored of fucking his wife. But that doesn't mean he doesn't still love her. It's perfectly natural to become bored of shagging the same person. Cue more shouting..." ooooooo now thats done it..think the JCB replaced the shovel. | |||
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"Surely you're all playing away, it's just that you admit it. Does that mean you've got shit marriages too? I'd say that the majority of swinging is initiated by or driven by the man. Why? Because he's bored of fucking his wife. But that doesn't mean he doesn't still love her. It's perfectly natural to become bored of shagging the same person. Cue more shouting..." i am a woman and been married at 18 had a family ,,, so i am making up for lost time , lol lifes never boring i have a fab life ........ i really do . | |||
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"Because his original question was offensive to every one on this site !!!" Why? | |||
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"Run of the mill fluff pmsl now is it blue??? Love the fact there is such a thing as run of the mill fluff lol no, it's grey....blue is Belly button fluff....grey is pocket fluff....gawd you have no idea of fluff colours have you? Ok I accept your kind offer and will let you keep the button as a sign of gratitude!! Do they do courses on these sorts of things?? I'm feeling like I need to be educated on fluff colours causes and cures!!!!!! Yes, they cost 23p, see you should have taken it " | |||
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"Because his original question was offensive to every one on this site !!!" Not to me it wasn't But then not much offends me. | |||
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"Surely you're all playing away, it's just that you admit it. Does that mean you've got shit marriages too? I'd say that the majority of swinging is initiated by or driven by the man. Why? Because he's bored of fucking his wife. But that doesn't mean he doesn't still love her. It's perfectly natural to become bored of shagging the same person. Cue more shouting... ooooooo now thats done it..think the JCB replaced the shovel." | |||
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"I don't think you have to justify yourself to anyone. It is a shame people don't just answer your question. lol that would be nice." question has been answered over and over, what else do you need to know? the ONLY similarity between swinging and employing a hooker is you empty your balls. how can you say you have a good marriage if your wife thinks you are a good man that ISNT cheating on her | |||
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"Because his original question was offensive to every one on this site !!! Not to me it wasn't But then not much offends me." I wasn't offended either to be honest | |||
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"Because his original question was offensive to every one on this site !!! Why? " this part don't help "probably more attractive. " | |||
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"I don't think you have to justify yourself to anyone. It is a shame people don't just answer your question. lol that would be nice. question has been answered over and over, what else do you need to know? the ONLY similarity between swinging and employing a hooker is you empty your balls. how can you say you have a good marriage if your wife thinks you are a good man that ISNT cheating on her" Again, I'm not cheating on her. The similarity (for attached people) is no strings sex, with little or no risk of being caught. | |||
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"Surely you're all playing away, it's just that you admit it. Does that mean you've got shit marriages too? I'd say that the majority of swinging is initiated by or driven by the man. Why? Because he's bored of fucking his wife. But that doesn't mean he doesn't still love her. It's perfectly natural to become bored of shagging the same person. Cue more shouting..." oh dear | |||
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"For a married guy playing on the side (and leaving aside the rights and wrongs of that scenario) which is better? Swinging - free and properly into it. Hookers - definitely no strings, easier to arrange, probably more attractive. Thoughts?" Im confused as to why you think hookers would be more attractive? | |||
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"Because his original question was offensive to every one on this site !!! Why? this part don't help "probably more attractive. " lol Maybe I should have put that differently. " lol i have this feeling you new how you was putting it just to get people chating , lol x and your profile looked at x | |||
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"For a married guy playing on the side (and leaving aside the rights and wrongs of that scenario) which is better? Swinging - free and properly into it. Hookers - definitely no strings, easier to arrange, probably more attractive. Thoughts? Im confused as to why you think hookers would be more attractive?" Depends on the hooker and depends on the swinger. I was really getting at the idea that you can pick and choose. Which, as a bloke on here, you can't. | |||
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"Because his original question was offensive to every one on this site !!! Why? this part don't help "probably more attractive. " lol Maybe I should have put that differently. lol i have this feeling you new how you was putting it just to get people chating , lol x and your profile looked at x" lol I wouldn't have put it that way if I wanted to get profile views. I don't think it's really going to help me 'pull'? | |||
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"same question as is asked to all 'cheaters' that say theyre up front? does your missus know? if not, then you arent really that up front are you, so dont fool yourself by saying just cuz you arent the only one, doesnt make it right or correct. and no, you never said crack whores, however, unless you want to spend thousands then thats the range you are going into. £20 for a gummy blow job. Sorry that's just bollocks. There's a middle ground between thousands of pounds and twenty quid. And I never said it was right or correct to play behind someone's back. I was just asking the question from that point of view. Do you think it would be better to pretend to be single then? of course it wouldnt, how absurd. i think it would be better to work your marriage out or let the poor woman free to find someone that wants to commit to her and not play behind her back, but thats not what this thread is about. still, the middle ground isnt all about women that look like (enter generic sexy famous person here). they are normal people, you know, just like female swingers, so what makes them more attractive? Ok, I'll say again, I've not done either of these things. It was a hypothetical question. Do you think it's possible to have a good marriage but want a little extra thrill every now and then? I'd say it is. I'd also say it's biologically built in. " So you find your wife is cheating?? Would that be ok with you as your saying its built in to want an extra thrill (thrill=cheating) | |||
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"That bit I can't agree with spark, I like to make sure its about everyone having fun, if I objectify the women I only care about me!! I have had a meet and the lady I met got all my attention I had none, I got a thrill from making her enjoy herself" I kinda see your point. But you still got a thrill. If you didn't you wouldn't care so much about whether she enjoyed herself. | |||
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"Because his original question was offensive to every one on this site !!! Why? this part don't help "probably more attractive. " lol Maybe I should have put that differently. " yes, saying Hookers are probably more attractive than swingers is not nice, lucky for us comments made over the internet makes no odds to us but to some it would. Thats just my thought though. Tony | |||
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"Because his original question was offensive to every one on this site !!! Why? this part don't help "probably more attractive. " lol Maybe I should have put that differently. lol i have this feeling you new how you was putting it just to get people chating , lol x and your profile looked at x lol I wouldn't have put it that way if I wanted to get profile views. I don't think it's really going to help me 'pull'?" if thay are looking .. yes .. x fingers crossed its helped x | |||
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"same question as is asked to all 'cheaters' that say theyre up front? does your missus know? if not, then you arent really that up front are you, so dont fool yourself by saying just cuz you arent the only one, doesnt make it right or correct. and no, you never said crack whores, however, unless you want to spend thousands then thats the range you are going into. £20 for a gummy blow job. Sorry that's just bollocks. There's a middle ground between thousands of pounds and twenty quid. And I never said it was right or correct to play behind someone's back. I was just asking the question from that point of view. Do you think it would be better to pretend to be single then? of course it wouldnt, how absurd. i think it would be better to work your marriage out or let the poor woman free to find someone that wants to commit to her and not play behind her back, but thats not what this thread is about. still, the middle ground isnt all about women that look like (enter generic sexy famous person here). they are normal people, you know, just like female swingers, so what makes them more attractive? Ok, I'll say again, I've not done either of these things. It was a hypothetical question. Do you think it's possible to have a good marriage but want a little extra thrill every now and then? I'd say it is. I'd also say it's biologically built in. So you find your wife is cheating?? Would that be ok with you as your saying its built in to want an extra thrill (thrill=cheating)" I have no idea. But again, I've not shagged anyone behind her back. Unless asking about it on a forum counts? | |||
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"Surely you're all playing away, it's just that you admit it. Does that mean you've got shit marriages too? I'd say that the majority of swinging is initiated by or driven by the man. Why? Because he's bored of fucking his wife. But that doesn't mean he doesn't still love her. It's perfectly natural to become bored of shagging the same person. Cue more shouting..." 1. we are not married 2 we started swinging 6 months into our relationship 3 I(fem) was the one who suggested it, not the male half and most importantly... we are not "playing away" we are playing together... with other people. big difference between playing away and a swinging relationship.. even if only one person in the relationship plays swinging is about being open and honest with your partner about your sexual needs/wants/fantasies.... not lieing and hiding stuff from them... if your gonna do that why involve an innocent party... i say its better to pay an escort.. at least that way when your wife goes knocking around their address she can say.. he paid for it, i did it.. and thats the agro done with... when you involve swingers it can get out of hand and alot of peoples reputations can be ruined by it. | |||
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"Ok. You asked for male opinions - and like arseholes everyones got one - so here's mine! (opinion - not arsehole!) Take aside the cheating part - your choice and there will be those that have their own viewpoint on that and will use it to decide who they play/don't play with. Their choice. Comparing swinging, consensual fun, no-strings encounters (or whatever you want to call it) with paying professionals to get your jollies? Pretty dumb! One is simply a transactional arrangement where for the right price you can indulge in whatever you care, with someone who's probably going through their shopping list in their head, trying to remember the band that played the songbon the radio they were listening to in the cab on the way to your travelodge (as you obviously aren't gonna take em home to the matrimonial bed!) or just wishing you'd shoot your load, not be able to get it up again so they can spend the rest of your allotted hour getting presentable for their next client of the day whilst telling you how wonderful you are! The other involves socialising to varying degrees from a quick chat to ensure you both fancy eachother, to a drink, a meal and sharing desires and experiences, in the hope that by doing so you'll both have a great time pleasing eachother - with neither going unsatisfied and both aiming to ensure all parties are treated with respect at all times. As for your genius comment about 'attractiveness' - yes, in general you don't play with someone you have no attraction to - but in the swinging world that's not all about the visuals, more a combination of looks, personality, openness - the whole package - as opposed to someone who looks great but really doesn't give a shot who theyre fucking so long as they've got the cash. So - in your case - have to say I don't think you've probably done yourself too many favours with this thread. As to what's your best course of action - I'd say you're guaranteed sex (but no guarantees it'll be any good!) with a hooker - and possibly guaranteed to have massively reduced your odds of any fun on here! There is of course always a third option - but maybe she's not attractive enough for you. " Now that's a proper answer, cheers chap. As it goes, I think I probably agree with a lot of what you say. | |||
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"Surely you're all playing away, it's just that you admit it. Does that mean you've got shit marriages too? I'd say that the majority of swinging is initiated by or driven by the man. Why? Because he's bored of fucking his wife. But that doesn't mean he doesn't still love her. It's perfectly natural to become bored of shagging the same person. Cue more shouting... 1. we are not married 2 we started swinging 6 months into our relationship 3 I(fem) was the one who suggested it, not the male half and most importantly... we are not "playing away" we are playing together... with other people. big difference between playing away and a swinging relationship.. even if only one person in the relationship plays swinging is about being open and honest with your partner about your sexual needs/wants/fantasies.... not lieing and hiding stuff from them... if your gonna do that why involve an innocent party... i say its better to pay an escort.. at least that way when your wife goes knocking around their address she can say.. he paid for it, i did it.. and thats the agro done with... when you involve swingers it can get out of hand and alot of peoples reputations can be ruined by it." You might be right. | |||
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"same question as is asked to all 'cheaters' that say theyre up front? does your missus know? if not, then you arent really that up front are you, so dont fool yourself by saying just cuz you arent the only one, doesnt make it right or correct. and no, you never said crack whores, however, unless you want to spend thousands then thats the range you are going into. £20 for a gummy blow job. Sorry that's just bollocks. There's a middle ground between thousands of pounds and twenty quid. And I never said it was right or correct to play behind someone's back. I was just asking the question from that point of view. Do you think it would be better to pretend to be single then? of course it wouldnt, how absurd. i think it would be better to work your marriage out or let the poor woman free to find someone that wants to commit to her and not play behind her back, but thats not what this thread is about. still, the middle ground isnt all about women that look like (enter generic sexy famous person here). they are normal people, you know, just like female swingers, so what makes them more attractive? Ok, I'll say again, I've not done either of these things. It was a hypothetical question. Do you think it's possible to have a good marriage but want a little extra thrill every now and then? I'd say it is. I'd also say it's biologically built in. So you find your wife is cheating?? Would that be ok with you as your saying its built in to want an extra thrill (thrill=cheating) I have no idea. But again, I've not shagged anyone behind her back. Unless asking about it on a forum counts?" Your looking for daytime nsa fun on or offline . You didnt answer the question really, its irrelevant whether or not you have met anyone | |||
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"same question as is asked to all 'cheaters' that say theyre up front? does your missus know? if not, then you arent really that up front are you, so dont fool yourself by saying just cuz you arent the only one, doesnt make it right or correct. and no, you never said crack whores, however, unless you want to spend thousands then thats the range you are going into. £20 for a gummy blow job. Sorry that's just bollocks. There's a middle ground between thousands of pounds and twenty quid. And I never said it was right or correct to play behind someone's back. I was just asking the question from that point of view. Do you think it would be better to pretend to be single then? of course it wouldnt, how absurd. i think it would be better to work your marriage out or let the poor woman free to find someone that wants to commit to her and not play behind her back, but thats not what this thread is about. still, the middle ground isnt all about women that look like (enter generic sexy famous person here). they are normal people, you know, just like female swingers, so what makes them more attractive? Ok, I'll say again, I've not done either of these things. It was a hypothetical question. Do you think it's possible to have a good marriage but want a little extra thrill every now and then? I'd say it is. I'd also say it's biologically built in. So you find your wife is cheating?? Would that be ok with you as your saying its built in to want an extra thrill (thrill=cheating) I have no idea. But again, I've not shagged anyone behind her back. Unless asking about it on a forum counts? Your looking for daytime nsa fun on or offline . You didnt answer the question really, its irrelevant whether or not you have met anyone" If she's cheating and it's keeping her happy, that's fine. | |||
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"spark you are a behaving like a muppet, there is a reason it is called, the lifestyle. its not just about sex and it definately isnt about commodification, or objectifying of women. In fact id go further this is a liberating experience for many, and in many ways blokes going out on the pull has more in common with seeking prostitutes than swinging, I hope one day youll understand but until then Id suggest you stay of swinging sites. That's from your point of view. And most of the couples on here probably have the same point of view. I'd argue that most of the singles don't. Particularly the single men. In fact, any man that says he doesn't objectify women is a liar." Strictly speaking if you are single you arent really a swinger and the site is called fabswingers, there is a partner site for singles if thats all you are after, but anyway, Funny too how you state that mine is just an opinion but your probably eronious opinion of singles is fact, for the record my opinion is based upon professional experience working for prostitutes offering drugs advice, and if you prefer women who may be forced into it and hate every minute, who may have track marks, ulcerated and bleeding gums,cracked lips wasted muscle tissue, higher chance of HIV or hep. And are willing to take the risk of being attacked by pimps, or be clipped (where they take the money and run)over confident liberated women who know what they like and want to have fun with others, then i petty you | |||
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"spark you are a behaving like a muppet, there is a reason it is called, the lifestyle. its not just about sex and it definately isnt about commodification, or objectifying of women. In fact id go further this is a liberating experience for many, and in many ways blokes going out on the pull has more in common with seeking prostitutes than swinging, I hope one day youll understand but until then Id suggest you stay of swinging sites. That's from your point of view. And most of the couples on here probably have the same point of view. I'd argue that most of the singles don't. Particularly the single men. In fact, any man that says he doesn't objectify women is a liar. Strictly speaking if you are single you arent really a swinger and the site is called fabswingers, there is a partner site for singles if thats all you are after, but anyway, Funny too how you state that mine is just an opinion but your probably eronious opinion of singles is fact, for the record my opinion is based upon professional experience working for prostitutes offering drugs advice, and if you prefer women who may be forced into it and hate every minute, who may have track marks, ulcerated and bleeding gums,cracked lips wasted muscle tissue, higher chance of HIV or hep. And are willing to take the risk of being attacked by pimps, or be clipped (where they take the money and run)over confident liberated women who know what they like and want to have fun with others, then i petty you " That's a very polarised view of escorts. There are loads of women out there doing it who aren't being forced into a life of crack addiction, but are working independently by choice. I'm not saying that the situation you're describing doesn't exist - it does - but it's a bit of a cliche. As a side point, I'd legalise it tomorrow, and it would stop all the issues you raise. | |||
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"Oh dear!!!! That long lonely walk, down the path of posting a thread, that has not been thought out properly. You can always talk about how to win friends and influence people, and how fantastically wonderful, gorgeous and sexy all the beautiful women on here are, and that the association between the better looking paid hooker and the not so pretty female swinger, was one of an ill thought out caught up in the moment type of situation, and that you are humbly sorry and will lick the balls of a thousand camels. Then and only then you will be forgiven my son. Peace and love xx" lol camels? | |||
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"spark you are a behaving like a muppet, there is a reason it is called, the lifestyle. its not just about sex and it definately isnt about commodification, or objectifying of women. In fact id go further this is a liberating experience for many, and in many ways blokes going out on the pull has more in common with seeking prostitutes than swinging, I hope one day youll understand but until then Id suggest you stay of swinging sites. That's from your point of view. And most of the couples on here probably have the same point of view. I'd argue that most of the singles don't. Particularly the single men. In fact, any man that says he doesn't objectify women is a liar. Strictly speaking if you are single you arent really a swinger and the site is called fabswingers, there is a partner site for singles if thats all you are after, but anyway, Funny too how you state that mine is just an opinion but your probably eronious opinion of singles is fact, for the record my opinion is based upon professional experience working for prostitutes offering drugs advice, and if you prefer women who may be forced into it and hate every minute, who may have track marks, ulcerated and bleeding gums,cracked lips wasted muscle tissue, higher chance of HIV or hep. And are willing to take the risk of being attacked by pimps, or be clipped (where they take the money and run)over confident liberated women who know what they like and want to have fun with others, then i petty you That's a very polarised view of escorts. There are loads of women out there doing it who aren't being forced into a life of crack addiction, but are working independently by choice. I'm not saying that the situation you're describing doesn't exist - it does - but it's a bit of a cliche. As a side point, I'd legalise it tomorrow, and it would stop all the issues you raise." Oh I would legalise it too but its not a cliche, as I say iv'e worked with many and if anyything I have understated it. and for someone to suffer at least some of the above is the norm,to have a rose tinted view that you can `easily' get a prostitute without the risk of them being exploited or messed up is wrong, NOONE streetwalks without some background issues, Sure there are some who have made a career choice high class pros can earn a lot too but its still never a mutually shared experience, | |||
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"Well I would have said all the gorgeous women on here, but kinda think you fucked your chances there until your penance has been served. But we are a forgiving lot on here so may reduce your sentence to buying you lovely wife a bunch of flowers, say 5 hail Mary's and vow that you will never ever associate swingers with a paid hookers again. You are forgiven my son, go in peace and don't fucking do it again or else we will all chop your balls off. hehehehe Peace and love the swinging style, yeah baby.xx" haha thankyou for your forgiveness. | |||
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"Well I would have said all the gorgeous women on here, but kinda think you fucked your chances there until your penance has been served. But we are a forgiving lot on here so may reduce your sentence to buying you lovely wife a bunch of flowers, say 5 hail Mary's and vow that you will never ever associate swingers with a paid hookers again. You are forgiven my son, go in peace and don't fucking do it again or else we will all chop your balls off. hehehehe Peace and love the swinging style, yeah baby.xx haha thankyou for your forgiveness." your loving it xx lol haha , | |||
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"Go on then, enlighten me. There's a mutual attraction in swinging meets, and obviously no financial element, but the basic reason for being there is exactly the same. Bear in mind I'm coming at this from a 'playing on the side' point of view. Which, if you're offended by per se, then you're not going to see past it." your not a swinger thought are you, your just a flat out cheat as far as i go so you wouldnt get what swinging is about as you have even done it yet. you'll never know unless you share something thats yours as well instead of trying to just take take take so you can go behind your familys back | |||
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"Wow, I didn't expect that much vitriol. As it goes, I haven't done either, I was just putting the question out there to see the reaction. The more attractive comments is subjective, I'll grant you. What I was really trying to get at is that you can choose someone that fits exactly your You see, it's easy for women to get what they want on here. It's a LOT more difficult for guys. Id' be interested in some male opinions on this... I personally don't see a huge difference apart from the financial transaction. You both know what you're there for and you both get what you want out of it." Oh my giddy aunt... You have just dug a bigger! | |||
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"irrespective of whether you have turned up to an address and banged someones backdoors in, you have sat on a webcam and slapped your meat for the enjoyment of yourself and others. i can guess you werent doing that while your missus was sat on the sofa watching britains got talent! swinging couples ARE NT cheating on each other, as you well know, they are playing WITH each other, and there is the fundimental difference. they both know and are happy with the situation. us? i suggested it because she wanted to see what it was like being with another woman. hardly instigated by the bloke is it? and as for objectifying women? you are having a giraffe. i can guarentee you couldnt get your missus to do something she didnt want to, and neither can i, or many others either on here or elsewhere. dude, just admit your premise is fundamentally wrong and there is NO correlation between the 2, apart from the end result of you emptying your balls" Emptying your balls is the correlation. You're right that online playing is still cheating, but that's now what you were getting at before. But the idea that blokes can't get women to do something they don't want to do (and vice versa) is just bollocks. There are loads of relationships where one partner 'encourages' the other down a particular way of thinking to suit their own ends. What about if someone was to change religion to suit their partner? Or quit their job to look after the kids when they really didn't have that in mid originally? It's slow and subtle, but people often end up doing stuff they didn't originally want to. | |||
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"Go on then, enlighten me. There's a mutual attraction in swinging meets, and obviously no financial element, but the basic reason for being there is exactly the same. Bear in mind I'm coming at this from a 'playing on the side' point of view. Which, if you're offended by per se, then you're not going to see past it. your not a swinger thought are you, your just a flat out cheat as far as i go so you wouldnt get what swinging is about as you have even done it yet. you'll never know unless you share something thats yours as well instead of trying to just take take take so you can go behind your familys back" As I said, if you're offended by the cheating bit, there's not a lot more to say. | |||
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"Hi James, I hope you're well today? You needn't worry about your wife, she hasn't gone off sex - just having sex with you! When we met her for a great 3 some last week she said you were a let down - you just like to wank on cam! you carry on doing your 'on the side hunting' and good luck to you! Z" lol thanks. | |||
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"Wow, I didn't expect that much vitriol. As it goes, I haven't done either, I was just putting the question out there to see the reaction. The more attractive comments is subjective, I'll grant you. What I was really trying to get at is that you can choose someone that fits exactly your You see, it's easy for women to get what they want on here. It's a LOT more difficult for guys. Id' be interested in some male opinions on this... I personally don't see a huge difference apart from the financial transaction. You both know what you're there for and you both get what you want out of it." Oh my giddy aunt... You have just dug a bigger hole! | |||
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"Well spark we communicate with each other and usually play together, so we dont need to cheat, Im casting no judgements on your relationship with your partner but for us the ability to be fully open and honest in our playing is liberating and intoxicating in a way that genuinely brings us closer , I do agree with you on one point though some people do have the ability to manipulate others into doing what they want. OH and one last thing if ever you lick the 1000 camels video it theres bound to be an audience somehwere LOL" lol I'm sure there would be. Thanks for the nicely worded response. | |||
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"As a side point, I'd legalise it tomorrow, and it would stop all the issues you raise. Oh I would legalise it too but its not a cliche, as I say iv'e worked with many and if anyything I have understated it. Prostitution IS legal and always has been, duh. " is it in britain? Z | |||
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"As a side point, I'd legalise it tomorrow, and it would stop all the issues you raise. Oh I would legalise it too but its not a cliche, as I say iv'e worked with many and if anyything I have understated it. Prostitution IS legal and always has been, duh. " You are right prostitution is legal but the laws around it are vague and confused, you can still get done for a) living off immoral earnings and b) soliciting for trade. Ive seen a woman ilegally charged for prostitution whwn all she was doing was drinking a cup of coffee in the street by a van (admittedly on her break) there are loads of anomolies in the current laws | |||
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" I personally don't see a huge difference apart from the financial transaction. You both know what you're there for and you both get what you want out of it." I don't know if that was meant to be as flippant as it sounded or if it was serious... But I don't think that does you any favours at all The sad thing is that I am betting a lot of men, and not just married ones, would share your view.. In a way I am glad that it does surface because it really does seperate those who understand swinging and "get it" so to speak from those who don't and see it as an opportunistic way of getting their leg over... | |||
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