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"Or compensating for something lol " Lack of personality? Lol | |||
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"Its like the men who tell me what car they have to impress. So you have a posh car does that make you more likely to have me screaming in mind blowing orgasm than a man who don't drive. WTF I look at a profile as a indicator to sexual compatible not to see how much you earn strange concept I know lol " Best remove endless pics of my car off my profile ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Professional usually means they are compensating for the lack of something else !!! " really?? what on earth could it compensate for?? odd concept | |||
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"Looking through my looked at me list and a word keeps coming up and that's. 'professional' why would I give a dam does it make you a better shag than me a charity volunteer ! No it does not. does it make me more likely to meet you no. In fact I much much less likely to meet someone who bangs on about Being professional. I don't have issues with those who are but do I need to know to make a decision on if we compatible sexually ? no so its for your ego it gives no indication on what you want or enjoy sexually so what's the point ?" I do find it annoying when people ask what I do for a living; a couple of times the answer has resulted in a block - but that's just how it is on here - some people seem to believe that a person's profession is an indicator of whether they're compatible - and maybe they're right ? It's not something that bothers me but hey one thing I've learnt on here is it really is horses for courses in the swinging world and you just have to let others get on with it without getting hung up about it | |||
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"I do find it annoying when people ask what I do for a living; a couple of times the answer has resulted in a block" Soooo, what do you do for a living? ![]() | |||
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"Professional and proud here, and I don't give a flying f**k what other people think about me or my profile, certainly not from those I do not give a toss about! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I just don't see why people get so upset by the word 'Professional' ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Very well said indeed ![]() | |||
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"I think a lot of people who use the word don't actually understand its meaning. Besides, I'm not sure I'd want to shout about it on here if I were a doctor or a solicitor or something. " Exactly and there are a great many real professionals frequenting the site who would not dream of using the term to describe themselves in their ordinary lives, let alone in the swinging world. Socio-economic descriptors have morphed considerably since they were used by our Victorian and Edwardian ancestors to confirm and cement their understanding of social standing and hierarchy. Another term that was common between the late 19th and early 20th century was "in trade", used primarily by the upper classes to describe those in the upper-middle and middle classes who had to work for a living rather than living off passive income from vast land and property rentals. It is a term you seldom hear these days but had a condescending tone, even if those it was applied to had considerably more disposable income than the asset rich but cash poor classes that used it to label them as socially inferior. English economic and social culture is complicated and shaped by centuries of snobbery and inverted snobbery. Probably something that will not be resolved in the pages of Fabswingers. A highly interesting discussion nonetheless. | |||
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"Looking through my looked at me list and a word keeps coming up and that's. 'professional' why would I give a dam does it make you a better shag than me a charity volunteer ! No it does not. does it make me more likely to meet you no. In fact I much much less likely to meet someone who bangs on about Being professional. I don't have issues with those who are but do I need to know to make a decision on if we compatible sexually ? no so its for your ego it gives no indication on what you want or enjoy sexually so what's the point ?" Me me me me. There are other people reading the profile remember? I don't think its for someones ego that they include the word professional in their profile. I think it's used to quickly give an overall impression of work, dress, attitude, appearance etc. I imagine a lot of folk would find a professional attractive and more desireable, like a lot of landlords (would suit professionals). The fact this "professional" word gets under your skin so much would prompt me to say that perhaps the problem here lies a little closer to home ![]() | |||
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"Professional usually means they are compensating for the lack of something else !!! really?? what on earth could it compensate for?? odd concept" Maybe they have a small weiner ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Professional usually means they are compensating for the lack of something else !!! really?? what on earth could it compensate for?? odd concept Maybe they have a small weiner ![]() ![]() hahahaha indeed I think I need to explain better in posts .. my irony isn't always well explained | |||
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"Just checked my profile - doesn't contain the word professional. Last time I was on here pretty sure it did. Has it's presence, or lack of now, affected the level of meets i've had, the types of people i've met or who have chosen to drop me a line? Not in the slightest. Do I care if it's on someone elses? Nope! Although did see one who's headline was 'professional bi woman' - now that's a job i'd love! Just don't think i've got the qualifications required! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I see it a lot more on profiles on here I don't care iits just words " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Professional usually means they are compensating for the lack of something else !!! " we used to have professional couple on our profile, we say that rather than say we are police man/woman ,social worker etc | |||
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"I've seen one or two people on cam here that look quite frightening. And I'm over 6'. So perhaps I'm wrong, but when someone says they are professional, I tend to assume their head isn't full of metal and they don't have so many tattoos they look like theyve just fallen into a bucket of dulux's finest! ![]() ![]() I know lots of professionals who do have tats and piercings, I have had previous professions which require requisite qualifications and I have said body modifications. | |||
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"Im glad they put this on their profiles as im not turned on by professionals so i can easily avoid posh pen pushing men and hone in on rough workmen and baby chav sexpots! Xxx mel" lol funny you should say that because whenever i see a profile that states they are professional i just get an image of a middle aged bhisness man turning up in a suit, which isnt a look i go for at all so i tend to avoid such profiles too ![]() | |||
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" There are loads of odd things i find on here but people are entitled to meet who they like, without question " You'd think so wouldn't you?!! ![]() | |||
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"Im glad they put this on their profiles as im not turned on by professionals so i can easily avoid posh pen pushing men and hone in on rough workmen and baby chav sexpots! Xxx mel lol funny you should say that because whenever i see a profile that states they are professional i just get an image of a middle aged bhisness man turning up in a suit, which isnt a look i go for at all so i tend to avoid such profiles too ![]() ...one man's meat (meet)... ![]() | |||
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"I've seen one or two people on cam here that look quite frightening. And I'm over 6'. So perhaps I'm wrong, but when someone says they are professional, I tend to assume their head isn't full of metal and they don't have so many tattoos they look like theyve just fallen into a bucket of dulux's finest! ![]() ![]() Cough. Don't bank on it. | |||
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"I've seen one or two people on cam here that look quite frightening. And I'm over 6'. So perhaps I'm wrong, but when someone says they are professional, I tend to assume their head isn't full of metal and they don't have so many tattoos they look like theyve just fallen into a bucket of dulux's finest! ![]() ![]() nah never judge a book by its cover, im a manager of a huge company so if i chose to i suppose i could class myself as a professional, however i have quite a lot of tattoos ive just had a full back piece, as well as two half sleeves and a semi large leg piece, and several piercings, no comment on the head full of metal lol however i would never describe myself as a professional because i would feel it would send out the wrong image of me, im the sort of person that if you saw me walking down the street you'd think i was on the dole dispite going to a private school and having a very good education..... and i quite like that ![]() | |||
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"Looking through my looked at me list and a word keeps coming up and that's. 'professional' why would I give a dam does it make you a better shag than me a charity volunteer ! No it does not. does it make me more likely to meet you no. In fact I much much less likely to meet someone who bangs on about Being professional. I don't have issues with those who are but do I need to know to make a decision on if we compatible sexually ? no so its for your ego it gives no indication on what you want or enjoy sexually so what's the point ?" Well, it's each to their own. Personally, I find men who are proper 'professionals' a real turn on. I fantasize about being fucked by my doctor ( Who is absolutely gorgeous.) I find something very sexy about a man in a suit who knows how to use his brain and has had an education. I'm strongly attracted to intelligent men. It has never been my intention to belittle anyone else. It's just where a particular attraction is, that's all. | |||
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"Looking through my looked at me list and a word keeps coming up and that's. 'professional' why would I give a dam does it make you a better shag than me a charity volunteer ! No it does not. does it make me more likely to meet you no. In fact I much much less likely to meet someone who bangs on about Being professional. I don't have issues with those who are but do I need to know to make a decision on if we compatible sexually ? no so its for your ego it gives no indication on what you want or enjoy sexually so what's the point ? Well, it's each to their own. Personally, I find men who are proper 'professionals' a real turn on. I fantasize about being fucked by my doctor ( Who is absolutely gorgeous.) I find something very sexy about a man in a suit who knows how to use his brain and has had an education. I'm strongly attracted to intelligent men. It has never been my intention to belittle anyone else. It's just where a particular attraction is, that's all." Likewise professional women, well dressed; business suit; heels with attitude. intelligent, women that no what they want and get it no matter in the boardroom or out are hugely attractive. I like a woman that is beautiful, strong, and in control, I don't mind her knowing that that is what she is and I certainly find a woman that manipulates a situation to her advantage to be a real scorcher! ![]() | |||
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"For us it's shorthand for middle class. It's a crass term, granted, but compatibility outside the bedroom is our preferred guide for compatibility within the bedroom. Whether the term has put off couples we'd have clicked with from ever getting in touch, who knows. Suffice to say we've had fantastic experiences and met enough super people and couples that it isn't something we lose sleep worrying over. Everyone's profile is designed to attract the type of people they want to meet. That is something to be celebrated, not castigated. " Save your breath! | |||
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"I do work for a living actually to those who look down on. Others just coz we not t a professional don't make you better than those who are not. I glad you wil only meet those like you coz I would hate to meet someone so up themselves there's no room for my tong. ![]() Well you've cut off all you're holes anyhow, you've got your knickers in a knot over a simple word so that's two down and you're spouting s*#t out of the other. If you don't like the word then move on and get over it, paid or unpaid, working or not, its the attitude some people have that makes peoples minds up about someone and yours is a little bit stinky if I'm honest... People you seem to be looking for would likely not use the word anyway as they're all past retirement age (and do you see me gettin all pishy cos I don't see myself as old and that's what you're seeking?... No, Its a relief) Do you get so uptight when people put on their profile that they want to meet people who are issue free as I suppose that rules you out too! It's like those idiots who watch a whole episode of Frankie Boyle then complain about the content.... DONT FRIKKIN WATCH THEN and leave the rest of us to enjoy it. ![]() | |||
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"Im glad they put this on their profiles as im not turned on by professionals so i can easily avoid posh pen pushing men and hone in on rough workmen and baby chav sexpots! Xxx mel lol funny you should say that because whenever i see a profile that states they are professional i just get an image of a middle aged bhisness man turning up in a suit, which isnt a look i go for at all so i tend to avoid such profiles too ![]() I agree give me rough and heady any day lol. I have met a man that has professional on his profile and thought don't judge on that and we got on quite well for a while till he got d*unk and text me telling me he wants to do things that I would never ever do lol we tried to carry on like nothing happened after all who dont get d*unk but it just didn't work. Nothing to do with his profile but I do still imagine a man in a suit in a briefcase when I spot that word now. Could be interesting depending what exactly is in briefcase lol | |||
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"I guess they are trying to imply a level of education and therefore their ability to converse well. Of course it doesn't mean it I work in office full of professionals some of whom are painfully shy, some lacking any apparent awareness of anything around them although actually their a pretty good bunch." Richard branson achieved nothing education wise yet something tells me he is a rather astute professional who can hold rather a decent conversation ! To me I see when people say " professional " its like they are saying that for whatever reason they would be more attractive to people like the common person .... I say bring on the peasants lol x | |||
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"Looking through my looked at me list and a word keeps coming up and that's. 'professional' why would I give a dam does it make you a better shag than me a charity volunteer ! No it does not. does it make me more likely to meet you no. In fact I much much less likely to meet someone who bangs on about Being professional. I don't have issues with those who are but do I need to know to make a decision on if we compatible sexually ? no so its for your ego it gives no indication on what you want or enjoy sexually so what's the point ?" ...is it really that annoying?? really? | |||
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"To be honest I pay as much attention to it on a profile as the disclaimer. " funny enough I was just about to use the same exact comparison....... I wonder is some people just use it for the same reason as the "warnings"... because they see others do it... ![]() | |||
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"I read it on a profile as "someone who can dress smartly, be civilised, discrete and not be the kind of person you'd find on the jeremy kyle show" ![]() | |||
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"I dont think these people are belittling you're "profession" of charity work... I have seen the word on many profiles and I just took it as, and I could be wrong, they are in a job where they wouldn't be comfortable, or it might not go down well for them if their colleagues were to find out what they did in their private time... Particularly their swinging activities! I think when people use the word they are just reassuring you of their discretion and expressing their desire for the same so while I agree that discretion is something that the majority of us would have anyway without the need of the word, if it helps them to feel more secure and comfortable in meeting then its just a word. And to be totally honest id rather meet with people similar to us who do work for a living ![]() That is the exact reason that we have it in our profile, its not a boast its just to inform people that we both work and value discretion. ![]() | |||
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"You don't get many 'professional' people on the jeremy kyle show. " exactly! | |||
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"Its like the men who tell me what car they have to impress. So you have a posh car does that make you more likely to have me screaming in mind blowing orgasm than a man who don't drive. WTF I look at a profile as a indicator to sexual compatible not to see how much you earn strange concept I know lol " i'm not professional, nor do i drive a car. Am i trying to compensate for having an enormous knob? ![]() | |||
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"Why is it a funny statement to make, Do you consider people appreciating themselves a bad thing?!" No, Im all for people appreciating themselves. I just find it hard to get my head round why certain people consider themselves good looking. "One mans meat is another ones poison". I have been told on numerous occasions that I am attractive (which is a nice complement) but there will be guys who do not find me attractive. Do you see where Im going with this! In otherwords people who declare they are a good looking person, couple on Fab, only think they are, as there will be many who dont. | |||
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"Why is it a funny statement to make, Do you consider people appreciating themselves a bad thing?! No, Im all for people appreciating themselves. I just find it hard to get my head round why certain people consider themselves good looking. "One mans meat is another ones poison". I have been told on numerous occasions that I am attractive (which is a nice complement) but there will be guys who do not find me attractive. Do you see where Im going with this! In otherwords people who declare they are a good looking person, couple on Fab, only think they are, as there will be many who dont. " Very true - eye of the beholder and all that ![]() | |||
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"Strikes me that some of them are so far up their own arse, they don't need to be on here, they can do it all by themselves ![]() change username to: AnalPoshness | |||
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"Why is it a funny statement to make, Do you consider people appreciating themselves a bad thing?! No, Im all for people appreciating themselves. I just find it hard to get my head round why certain people consider themselves good looking. "One mans meat is another ones poison". I have been told on numerous occasions that I am attractive (which is a nice complement) but there will be guys who do not find me attractive. Do you see where Im going with this! In otherwords people who declare they are a good looking person, couple on Fab, only think they are, as there will be many who dont. " I totally understand what you're saying but why are you focusing on those that don't think you are? Now that's something I can't get my head round. Sounds to me like there's a low self concept somewhere there... ![]() | |||
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"Why is it a funny statement to make, Do you consider people appreciating themselves a bad thing?! No, Im all for people appreciating themselves. I just find it hard to get my head round why certain people consider themselves good looking. "One mans meat is another ones poison". I have been told on numerous occasions that I am attractive (which is a nice complement) but there will be guys who do not find me attractive. Do you see where Im going with this! In otherwords people who declare they are a good looking person, couple on Fab, only think they are, as there will be many who dont. I totally understand what you're saying but why are you focusing on those that don't think you are? Now that's something I can't get my head round. Sounds to me like there's a low self concept somewhere there... ![]() There's certainly no low self concept or esteem here. I just put this up for debate so you are probably looking at things the wrong way. I am a confident person, outgoing, get along reasonably well with most people and fairly good at business. I dont mind stating these things but I would never state. "I am attractive or good looking". I think this would be pretty shallow of me to state this. | |||
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"But it's ok to state you're growing old disgracefully? After all a bit of self put down isn't shallow is it..." Growing old disgracefully is called Humour lol | |||
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"Its like the men who tell me what car they have to impress. So you have a posh car does that make you more likely to have me screaming in mind blowing orgasm than a man who don't drive. WTF I look at a profile as a indicator to sexual compatible not to see how much you earn strange concept I know lol " Some guys think of it as a status thing to get the girls. Neither the car or the money impresses me. I have my own transport (abroad) and i earn my own money. | |||
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"nice to see the non judgemental, live and let live fab vibe is alive and well......sheesh..... " Oh, the irony... | |||
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"I've used the word professional on mine because I have a hard earned degree and masters degree in a particular subject. I agree, it probably doesn't make me a better shag... But it does mean I've got two brain cells to rub together! I prefer to spend intimate time with people who are articulate, and I agree that using the word professional means bugger all really!! Xx ![]() mmm I love rubbing hot tits together..I meant brain cells...sakes....my scrote-brain types this stuff sometimes without my consent.fancy a shag?(that was me that time) | |||
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"We often think people who put professional on their profile unwittingly give themselves a kind of Hyacinth Bucket image. ![]() ![]() ...And we all know she was dirty as hell beneath the veneer ![]() | |||
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"We often think people who put professional on their profile unwittingly give themselves a kind of Hyacinth Bucket image. ![]() ![]() ![]() I'd assume tho that her hubby had never washed his cock in his life | |||
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"I've used the word professional on mine because I have a hard earned degree and masters degree in a particular subject. I agree, it probably doesn't make me a better shag... ![]() ![]() Nothing personal against you, but it really, really doesn't! | |||
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"I pay attention to this because I want to meet people who can string a sentence together. There's a lot more to a fuck than a round peg in a round hole." Absolutely, well said. | |||
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"I've used the word professional on mine because I have a hard earned degree and masters degree in a particular subject. I agree, it probably doesn't make me a better shag... But it does mean I've got two brain cells to rub together! I prefer to spend intimate time with people who are articulate, and I agree that using the word professional means bugger all really!! Xx ![]() Hehehe! Xx | |||
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"I think the idea of stating your a professional is to attract a certain type of person, maybe they are in a high paid job and like to eat in certain restaurants or book higher class hotel than a travel lodge, to meet people who are on the same educational level as them so they have things in common to talk about, and not have to worry about meeting people who's income is to low to afford the type of places they want to use for meets, to some this is more tha just turning up for a fuck, they like to connect on a mental level and maybe they feel they can do that with someone whos on national minimum wage and had to worry about if they can afford to use the hotel suggested There are loads of odd things i find on here but people are entitled to meet who they like, without question " The funny bit though is that some people use it in the 'I'm a partner in a small firm of solicitors sense', and some in the 'I'm the kind of person an estate agent would rent a scabby flat in the suburbs to' sense, and mutual confusion ensues. As for me, I'm just an amateur at everything.... | |||
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"Professional people are unlikely to want to shag common, rough or scruffy looking people... All about personal choice, just like we all have ![]() As a young man I used to work as a doorman in the kind of bars where 'professional' men would pick up rough, scruffy young boys, some of whom undoubtedly would ask for some help with the rent before doing the wild thing for the punters. Most street girls can probably tell you a tale or two about professional guys slumming it - Jeanette Winterson also tells a tale or two about being seduced by married rich women who used to reward her with expensive gifts... It's a funny old world... | |||
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"I dont think these people are belittling you're "profession" of charity work... I have seen the word on many profiles and I just took it as, and I could be wrong, they are in a job where they wouldn't be comfortable, or it might not go down well for them if their colleagues were to find out what they did in their private time... Particularly their swinging activities! I think when people use the word they are just reassuring you of their discretion and expressing their desire for the same so while I agree that discretion is something that the majority of us would have anyway without the need of the word, if it helps them to feel more secure and comfortable in meeting then its just a word. And to be totally honest id rather meet with people similar to us who do work for a living ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Professional people are unlikely to want to shag common, rough or scruffy looking people... All about personal choice, just like we all have ![]() That's not swinging. ![]() | |||
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"nice to see the non judgemental, live and let live fab vibe is alive and well......sheesh..... " Amen brother! ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"nice to see the non judgemental, live and let live fab vibe is alive and well......sheesh..... Amen brother! ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm underwhelmed. Who was it said that The unexamined cock was not worth lifting? | |||
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"The story of this thread is the inverted snobbery is much more prevalent (and objectionable) than snobbery and true to form the inverted snobs do their level best to bring everyone down to their level. The tactics of humiliation, insults and bullying are quite normal for the inverted snob to use to attempt to bring the snob from "out of their own arse" and "down a peg or two." The snob meanwhile, carries on regardless keeping as much distance as possible from the negativity. Us? - Yes - we are swinging snobs and would never associate with the type of person that takes time out to make an issue of a profile that uses the word professional as means of selectivity. Yours etc Hyacinth............ ![]() Buck it! | |||
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"Professional people are unlikely to want to shag common, rough or scruffy looking people... All about personal choice, just like we all have ![]() ![]() I don't remember saying that it was... | |||
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"Think this is a good time to tell you all.... in a couple of months I'll be qualified as a professional philosopher!! PROFESSIONAL I tells ya! Isn't that awesome news?? ![]() ![]() You may qualify but until you earn something as a philosopher... discuss | |||
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"nice to see the non judgemental, live and let live fab vibe is alive and well......sheesh..... Amen brother! ![]() ![]() ![]() I think that was Socrates after a bit too much thinking juice ![]() | |||
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"Think this is a good time to tell you all.... in a couple of months I'll be qualified as a professional philosopher!! PROFESSIONAL I tells ya! Isn't that awesome news?? ![]() ![]() I'm sure I could earn some money as payment for not annoying people in regards to the cogito... then again I need to invest in a bubble pipe so I'll begin at a deficit... unless the term bubble pipe is a meaningless expression put in place by an evil genie....ah, we have a quandry! ![]() | |||
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"The story of this thread is the inverted snobbery is much more prevalent (and objectionable) than snobbery and true to form the inverted snobs do their level best to bring everyone down to their level. The tactics of humiliation, insults and bullying are quite normal for the inverted snob to use to attempt to bring the snob from "out of their own arse" and "down a peg or two." The snob meanwhile, carries on regardless keeping as much distance as possible from the negativity. Us? - Yes - we are swinging snobs and would never associate with the type of person that takes time out to make an issue of a profile that uses the word professional as means of selectivity. Yours etc Hyacinth............ ![]() What also amuses me is the time and effort these inverted snobs put into trying to decipher what is meant by "professional" and the conclusions they come to. ![]() | |||
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