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"Some people have a long way to travel to clubs,have children to sort out before they go,get themselves ready ect Then once to get there,time to relax chat and find out if you want to play with people While drinking may have a part in it I don't think its the only reason " i underatnd about the chatting ect...but if you were going out for a normal(god i hate that word lol ) night with friends, say a meal or something u would still have stuff like babysitters ect to sort... Its the fact that so much play seems to start after midnight i dont get, i mean thats normally when i am thinking of my bed...and not for sex | |||
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"ppl need dutch courage i guess. Like how they pull in normal club near end of night. Also its case of waiting for someone to go first. And men dont want to get in early for fear of looking desperate." but women tend to start the play at clubs...i do think dutch courage has a lot to do with it | |||
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"also ppl want to get to know who's there that they're interested in fucking. Not a case of just fuck blind." some ppl ![]() | |||
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"cos they are picky at first and later they get desparate? ![]() ohhh that might be it... ![]() | |||
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"ppl need dutch courage i guess. Like how they pull in normal club near end of night. Also its case of waiting for someone to go first. And men dont want to get in early for fear of looking desperate. but women tend to start the play at clubs...i do think dutch courage has a lot to do with it" well, i wish to feck a gal would come and start to play with me!! Lol. ![]() | |||
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"cos they are picky at first and later they get desparate? ![]() ![]() he he, gotta be honest, we have done this ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Some people have a long way to travel to clubs,have children to sort out before they go,get themselves ready ect Then once to get there,time to relax chat and find out if you want to play with people While drinking may have a part in it I don't think its the only reason i underatnd about the chatting ect...but if you were going out for a normal(god i hate that word lol ) night with friends, say a meal or something u would still have stuff like babysitters ect to sort... Its the fact that so much play seems to start after midnight i dont get, i mean thats normally when i am thinking of my bed...and not for sex" If I was going out for a night out with friends I would'nt be travelling up to 2 hrs to see them like I would with some clubs or parties Im a real night owl anyway and will happily play all night,so a late start does'nt bother me,but thats not got anything to do with needing dutch courage or being pissed,I don't drink loads when im playing and won't play with anyone thats d*unk ![]() | |||
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"also ppl want to get to know who's there that they're interested in fucking. Not a case of just fuck blind. some ppl ![]() i guess its like being in a club and not wanting to be the first on dance floor! But once someone gets up its soon mobbed! ![]() | |||
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"Some people have a long way to travel to clubs,have children to sort out before they go,get themselves ready ect Then once to get there,time to relax chat and find out if you want to play with people While drinking may have a part in it I don't think its the only reason i underatnd about the chatting ect...but if you were going out for a normal(god i hate that word lol ) night with friends, say a meal or something u would still have stuff like babysitters ect to sort... Its the fact that so much play seems to start after midnight i dont get, i mean thats normally when i am thinking of my bed...and not for sex If I was going out for a night out with friends I would'nt be travelling up to 2 hrs to see them like I would with some clubs or parties Im a real night owl anyway and will happily play all night,so a late start does'nt bother me,but thats not got anything to do with needing dutch courage or being pissed,I don't drink loads when im playing and won't play with anyone thats d*unk ![]() i see your point about travel, maybe its a north east thing...people are unlikely to have traveled for more than an hour tops, which is not that different for many to going to Newcastle for a night out. | |||
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"I know what you mean, I must admit when I go to the clubs with my fella we don't usually get there til about half 9 but we generally are the ones to start the ball rolling!! " ohh thank god its not just me lol So what do u think everyone else is waiting for? btw love the avatar ![]() | |||
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"also ppl want to get to know who's there that they're interested in fucking. Not a case of just fuck blind. some ppl ![]() ![]() mmmmmm mobbed | |||
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"also ppl want to get to know who's there that they're interested in fucking. Not a case of just fuck blind. some ppl ![]() ![]() lol, the dance floor! Not the gals pussy! ![]() | |||
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"ppl need dutch courage i guess. Like how they pull in normal club near end of night. Also its case of waiting for someone to go first. And men dont want to get in early for fear of looking desperate. but women tend to start the play at clubs...i do think dutch courage has a lot to do with it well, i wish to feck a gal would come and start to play with me!! Lol. ![]() ohh i dont start to play with ppl...i have a new tactic...i find a hunky guy and ask him if he wants to go play... weirdly it works ![]() | |||
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"ppl need dutch courage i guess. Like how they pull in normal club near end of night. Also its case of waiting for someone to go first. And men dont want to get in early for fear of looking desperate. but women tend to start the play at clubs...i do think dutch courage has a lot to do with it well, i wish to feck a gal would come and start to play with me!! Lol. ![]() ![]() that wouldnt work for me im afraid! Not into guys! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I think it has to do with getting warmed up....like an audience at a theatre...or to see a stand up comic....they have warm up acts to settle people in..... or am i on wrong track ? ![]() ohhh i see something there... | |||
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"I think it has to do with getting warmed up....like an audience at a theatre...or to see a stand up comic....they have warm up acts to settle people in..... or am i on wrong track ? ![]() oops...covers up lol xxx | |||
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"I think it has to do with getting warmed up....like an audience at a theatre...or to see a stand up comic....they have warm up acts to settle people in..... or am i on wrong track ? ![]() don't you dare...those nipples fill my dreams ![]() | |||
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"I think it has to do with getting warmed up....like an audience at a theatre...or to see a stand up comic....they have warm up acts to settle people in..... or am i on wrong track ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"ppl need dutch courage i guess. Like how they pull in normal club near end of night. Also its case of waiting for someone to go first. And men dont want to get in early for fear of looking desperate." I have been to Chams and an awful lot of people sit at the bar all night or in the smoking area and rarely leave either except for the toilet, so I think it has nothing to do with dutch courage | |||
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"ppl need dutch courage i guess. Like how they pull in normal club near end of night. Also its case of waiting for someone to go first. And men dont want to get in early for fear of looking desperate. I have been to Chams and an awful lot of people sit at the bar all night or in the smoking area and rarely leave either except for the toilet, so I think it has nothing to do with dutch courage" so what are they waiting for! | |||
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"I think it has to do with getting warmed up....like an audience at a theatre...or to see a stand up comic....they have warm up acts to settle people in..... or am i on wrong track ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() and heres me without a helicopter ![]() | |||
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"ppl need dutch courage i guess. Like how they pull in normal club near end of night. Also its case of waiting for someone to go first. And men dont want to get in early for fear of looking desperate. I have been to Chams and an awful lot of people sit at the bar all night or in the smoking area and rarely leave either except for the toilet, so I think it has nothing to do with dutch courage" ffs we could go to a pub if we wanted to do just that... lol Wolf ![]() | |||
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"ppl need dutch courage i guess. Like how they pull in normal club near end of night. Also its case of waiting for someone to go first. And men dont want to get in early for fear of looking desperate. I have been to Chams and an awful lot of people sit at the bar all night or in the smoking area and rarely leave either except for the toilet, so I think it has nothing to do with dutch courage ffs we could go to a pub if we wanted to do just that... lol Wolf ![]() pretty much my point...ok u chat, how long does it take to know u fancy someone...its a swinging club ffs, ask them if thay say no, no harm done, if they fancy it, go and play What are ppl waiting for! ![]() | |||
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"ppl need dutch courage i guess. Like how they pull in normal club near end of night. Also its case of waiting for someone to go first. And men dont want to get in early for fear of looking desperate. I have been to Chams and an awful lot of people sit at the bar all night or in the smoking area and rarely leave either except for the toilet, so I think it has nothing to do with dutch courage ffs we could go to a pub if we wanted to do just that... lol Wolf ![]() ![]() yep we were talking about the 'how long' bit this afternoon... Probably less than 10 seconds on inner gut instinct then 2 mins on attention and eye contact, body language and 5-10 mins on conversation? At a meet I'll know in a couple of minutes whether I'm going to drag em off to show em my etchings or not, just a case of pleasantries for their sakes really first, and the subtle message from Dev that she's happy with em ![]() ![]() | |||
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"ppl need dutch courage i guess. Like how they pull in normal club near end of night. Also its case of waiting for someone to go first. And men dont want to get in early for fear of looking desperate. I have been to Chams and an awful lot of people sit at the bar all night or in the smoking area and rarely leave either except for the toilet, so I think it has nothing to do with dutch courage ffs we could go to a pub if we wanted to do just that... lol Wolf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Are you me? ![]() ![]() | |||
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"And yet we always say to newbies - just go along and chat to people, see what goes on, no pressure to play...." there is no pressure..but if u fancy someone what is stopping u saying so? | |||
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"And yet we always say to newbies - just go along and chat to people, see what goes on, no pressure to play.... there is no pressure..but if u fancy someone what is stopping u saying so?" Nerves Lack of self-confidence Not knowing the 'etiquette' Fear of rejection | |||
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" Are you me? ![]() ![]() D'you know what... it's so hard sometimes living with this all underneath the veneer of a disciplined and well-schooled Gentleman. Hence... wolf (in sheeps clothing) pmsl Plenty standards... innately good in fact (despite the slipped halo), just that the mischevous look I go for is pretty universal and so damn irresistable among you Girls ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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" Like a couple of others I'm often the first to play. And sometimes, after a freshen up, a drink and a bit of predation the second to.play... It gets frustrating waiting for the fun to start sometimes, if I wait till after midnight I go off the boil! ![]() ![]() ![]() yup ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I think it has to do with getting warmed up....like an audience at a theatre...or to see a stand up comic....they have warm up acts to settle people in..... or am i on wrong track ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Off all the lame excuses ![]() | |||
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"I think it has to do with getting warmed up....like an audience at a theatre...or to see a stand up comic....they have warm up acts to settle people in..... or am i on wrong track ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() i know , im a right time waster me ![]() | |||
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"I think it has to do with getting warmed up....like an audience at a theatre...or to see a stand up comic....they have warm up acts to settle people in..... or am i on wrong track ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() MMMMMM been picking up on that vibe lol xxx ![]() | |||
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"I know what you mean, I must admit when I go to the clubs with my fella we don't usually get there til about half 9 but we generally are the ones to start the ball rolling!! ohh thank god its not just me lol So what do u think everyone else is waiting for? btw love the avatar ![]() Thank you!! I've no idea what they're waiting for, we don't play all night we do socialise as well but sometimes the playing is an icebreaker!! | |||
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"I do get the relaxing into the atmosphere and giving yourself time to find people you want to to play with.... I also think part of it is that no one wants to be the "first one" so to speak.. so people don't want to be the only one in a room by themselves...... i think in a way if you want to play in a group situation it isn't any good if you are the only ones doing anything" but if everyone is waiting for someone else to start... | |||
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"I do get the relaxing into the atmosphere and giving yourself time to find people you want to to play with.... I also think part of it is that no one wants to be the "first one" so to speak.. so people don't want to be the only one in a room by themselves...... i think in a way if you want to play in a group situation it isn't any good if you are the only ones doing anything but if everyone is waiting for someone else to start..." Maybe should be a bell. 'BRRRIIINGGG. Right, everybody shag!' | |||
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"I do get the relaxing into the atmosphere and giving yourself time to find people you want to to play with.... I also think part of it is that no one wants to be the "first one" so to speak.. so people don't want to be the only one in a room by themselves...... i think in a way if you want to play in a group situation it isn't any good if you are the only ones doing anything but if everyone is waiting for someone else to start... Maybe should be a bell. 'BRRRIIINGGG. Right, everybody shag!'" ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"if i go to a club and noone is there i fancy and want to fuck i wont play simples ![]() yep i agree. i have gone to a club cross eyed with frustration and not found anyone to play with, or been turned down by the only (for me) possible - yes it does happen to single women! and then ended up just having a lovely social night chatting to people and having a dance and perhaps a watch of others. but if i do want to play and find someone to play with then i'll be on that bed within minutes of arrival - why waste time? ![]() | |||
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"And yet we always say to newbies - just go along and chat to people, see what goes on, no pressure to play.... there is no pressure..but if u fancy someone what is stopping u saying so? Nerves Lack of self-confidence Not knowing the 'etiquette' Fear of rejection" Agree with all of the above | |||
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"if i go to a club and noone is there i fancy and want to fuck i wont play simples ![]() ![]() mine usualy starts in the jacuzzi | |||
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"if i go to a club and noone is there i fancy and want to fuck i wont play simples ![]() ![]() my skin doesn't like the jacuzzis ![]() ![]() | |||
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"if i go to a club and noone is there i fancy and want to fuck i wont play simples ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() given that ive met you and with the stunning good looks im not surprised i bet they are happy with that x | |||
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"I do get the relaxing into the atmosphere and giving yourself time to find people you want to to play with.... I also think part of it is that no one wants to be the "first one" so to speak.. so people don't want to be the only one in a room by themselves...... i think in a way if you want to play in a group situation it isn't any good if you are the only ones doing anything but if everyone is waiting for someone else to start... Maybe should be a bell. 'BRRRIIINGGG. Right, everybody shag!'" thats a thought! Re the various comments about couples nights,i go more to party nights, but they are always quite couple heavy, so that might be part of it. | |||
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"if i go to a club and noone is there i fancy and want to fuck i wont play simples ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() aww shucks thanks honey ![]() ![]() | |||
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"ppl need dutch courage i guess. Like how they pull in normal club near end of night. Also its case of waiting for someone to go first. And men dont want to get in early for fear of looking desperate." Nothing desperate about a bloke arriving early as it gives you a chance to have a chat too people so they get to know you and vice versa ![]() | |||
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"its the mawling and grabbing on certain nights that gets my goat." I never get that and that's how I expect it.. but it never happens... Btw I only mean once I'm playing... Cali | |||
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"its the mawling and grabbing on certain nights that gets my goat. I never get that and that's how I expect it.. but it never happens... Btw I only mean once I'm playing... Cali " happens alot of chams ona friday night, a gang on men all hang around and if action is happening they all tell each other and run to see ![]() | |||
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"its the mawling and grabbing on certain nights that gets my goat." Some men are just animals, I have seen it for myself and they show no respect. On saying that their are probably some ladies like that out there too. ![]() | |||
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"its the mawling and grabbing on certain nights that gets my goat. Some men are just animals, I have seen it for myself and they show no respect. On saying that their are probably some ladies like that out there too. ![]() trust me once ill be polite after that i will speak my mind and people know what im like x | |||
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"its the mawling and grabbing on certain nights that gets my goat. Some men are just animals, I have seen it for myself and they show no respect. On saying that their are probably some ladies like that out there too. ![]() And that's the behaviour which discourages some single ladies from going to clubs on those nights. Don't these guys realise they're only depriving themselves? ![]() | |||
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" so heads up, shoulders back, look for what you fancy and say 'hi, feel like playing?' ![]() Still takes me a couple of hours to get to that point though. ![]() | |||
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"I find some guys don't play straight away because once they've cum they're finished and it's the idea that someone better may come in. If they go for the 1st offer they may miss out on the super model that just might walk through the door later. " But surely that's the beauty if playing early! Plenty of recovery time ![]() | |||
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"I find some guys don't play straight away because once they've cum they're finished and it's the idea that someone better may come in. If they go for the 1st offer they may miss out on the super model that just might walk through the door later. " I don't play at chams for the reason most guys don't actually want to cum... Ie want to have a bj, maybe fuck you.. but not till they cum.. and if they aren't going to cum, I'm certainly not going to play. So I think that towards the end people are more inclined to. Cali | |||
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"I think it has to do with getting warmed up....like an audience at a theatre...or to see a stand up comic....they have warm up acts to settle people in..... or am i on wrong track ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What a waste footy widow christ almighty ...what you need is a long baby oil massage plenty of attention around those nipppples and spine and bum and inner thigh and....... ![]() | |||
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"I find some guys don't play straight away because once they've cum they're finished and it's the idea that someone better may come in. If they go for the 1st offer they may miss out on the super model that just might walk through the door later. I don't play at chams for the reason most guys don't actually want to cum... Ie want to have a bj, maybe fuck you.. but not till they cum.. and if they aren't going to cum, I'm certainly not going to play. So I think that towards the end people are more inclined to. Cali " Do you infer some sort off insult if the man does not cum ? It is a little diff for them...most men need a lil recovery time....maybe they want multiple partners...as often we women do xxx ![]() | |||
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"I find some guys don't play straight away because once they've cum they're finished and it's the idea that someone better may come in. If they go for the 1st offer they may miss out on the super model that just might walk through the door later. I don't play at chams for the reason most guys don't actually want to cum... Ie want to have a bj, maybe fuck you.. but not till they cum.. and if they aren't going to cum, I'm certainly not going to play. So I think that towards the end people are more inclined to. Cali " eh men not want to cum Cali im sure that with your charms its not possible for them to stop coming although a lot of guys granted just want to cum fart roll over and grab a beer unless there like me im a bit of an energiser bunny and lionel richy ALL NIGHT LONG ![]() | |||
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"I find some guys don't play straight away because once they've cum they're finished and it's the idea that someone better may come in. If they go for the 1st offer they may miss out on the super model that just might walk through the door later. I don't play at chams for the reason most guys don't actually want to cum... Ie want to have a bj, maybe fuck you.. but not till they cum.. and if they aren't going to cum, I'm certainly not going to play. So I think that towards the end people are more inclined to. Cali Do you infer some sort off insult if the man does not cum ? It is a little diff for them...most men need a lil recovery time....maybe they want multiple partners...as often we women do xxx ![]() All my regular play mates and master can cum, and carry on going.. So if a guy isn't going to cum for me I sure as hell won't waste my time entertaining him. I always thought most men could cum a few times... I just got lucky with men in my past I guess lol Cali | |||
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"i like a man to cum as well ![]() As do I and no doubt men like to make us women cum to, my point was...do u infer it as insulting ?? Also men have differing performances in the recovery stakes....often some never go soft...most reg a min or 2....some are one shot wonders xxx | |||
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"i like a man to cum as well ![]() Not an insult just a waste of time for me. Cali | |||
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"Personally i think that its insulting to the lady to say hey im not coming yet i mean as long as your not premature then why the problem any man should if he goes soft beable to perform again shortly afterwards myself i can come and stay hard and if they do have a problem then there is always the little blue pill and as long as they feel horny they should work ![]() there are little blue pills and also cock rings for men to enhance performance.....id not see it as insulting but id be dissapointed, but understanding as diff men have differing performances....and each man will be aware of his own performance potential in any situation xxx | |||
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"Personally i think that its insulting to the lady to say hey im not coming yet i mean as long as your not premature then why the problem any man should if he goes soft beable to perform again shortly afterwards myself i can come and stay hard and if they do have a problem then there is always the little blue pill and as long as they feel horny they should work ![]() My partner doesn't finish with anyone else without my say so, i don't see how its insulting to the lady your with to say your not gonna cum, if you want to keep going without cumming. | |||
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"Personally i think that its insulting to the lady to say hey im not coming yet i mean as long as your not premature then why the problem any man should if he goes soft beable to perform again shortly afterwards myself i can come and stay hard and if they do have a problem then there is always the little blue pill and as long as they feel horny they should work ![]() as I said I don't find it insulting but I wouldn't bother playing with a guy who wasn't going to cover me or cum in my mouth lol... And to me I'd never expect master to play with someone and not cum... It would be pointless. Cali | |||
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"Personally i think that its insulting to the lady to say hey im not coming yet i mean as long as your not premature then why the problem any man should if he goes soft beable to perform again shortly afterwards myself i can come and stay hard and if they do have a problem then there is always the little blue pill and as long as they feel horny they should work ![]() finishing on them is fine... just not in them... thats something we like to keep special ( mostly lol) | |||
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"And yet we always say to newbies - just go along and chat to people, see what goes on, no pressure to play.... there is no pressure..but if u fancy someone what is stopping u saying so? Nerves Lack of self-confidence Not knowing the 'etiquette' Fear of rejection Agree with all of the above" All this, plus I'm usually oblivious to who wants to play with me. Have had it a couple of times where the guy I was with has asked why I didn't want to play with a couple we've been chatting to and I was totally clueless to the fact they wanted to play...guess that's a confidence thing too though x | |||
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