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"i could never share either, although this is a swinging site we just like to go on the cam an get to know people who enjoy the same as us, each to their own though as many couples do love to swap but not for us .." so do you also doubt couples on here who do swap can't be truly in love?  As thats the point i'm really wondering, not the sharing
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel "i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so. They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust Two of my favorite quotes on love... immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme... Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis. They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession. | |||
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"He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. " Congratulations hon
Still, having met many 'swinging' couples I have to disagree with the idea that they cannot be in love.
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"why do swinging and the club then if you would not share, love it what you make of it and the feeling you get when you are with the person you are in love with " I look in devils eyes when a guy is fucking me and tell him I love him , because I do very much.
The quote came from someone who is single, his point being swinging couples can't really love each other.
I do not agree with his comment at all.
Plus people like Cali and Jemima and myself who are into BDSM, have another level of trust between our partners as what we do can be extreme. | |||
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"why do swinging and the club then if you would not share, love it what you make of it and the feeling you get when you are with the person you are in love with I look in devils eyes when a guy is fucking me and tell him I love him , because I do very much.
The quote came from someone who is single, his point being swinging couples can't really love each other.
I do not agree with his comment at all.
Plus people like Cali and Jemima and myself who are into BDSM, have another level of trust between our partners as what we do can be extreme. "ok i agree with the swingers can be in love but other things other than BDSM involve trust for some people trust is not given easily so not sure i agree that BDSM is only way to have extra trust with your partner | |||
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"why do swinging and the club then if you would not share, love it what you make of it and the feeling you get when you are with the person you are in love with I look in devils eyes when a guy is fucking me and tell him I love him , because I do very much.
The quote came from someone who is single, his point being swinging couples can't really love each other.
I do not agree with his comment at all.
Plus people like Cali and Jemima and myself who are into BDSM, have another level of trust between our partners as what we do can be extreme. "Ahh but Sir and i are not "in love".Although the lack of english words means love doesnt describe the feeling we have for each other... However consider the trust in me kev must have to know i can put my life in the hands of another... | |||
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"why do swinging and the club then if you would not share, love it what you make of it and the feeling you get when you are with the person you are in love with I look in devils eyes when a guy is fucking me and tell him I love him , because I do very much.
The quote came from someone who is single, his point being swinging couples can't really love each other.
I do not agree with his comment at all.
Plus people like Cali and Jemima and myself who are into BDSM, have another level of trust between our partners as what we do can be extreme.
ok i agree with the swingers can be in love but other things other than BDSM involve trust for some people trust is not given easily so not sure i agree that BDSM is only way to have extra trust with your partner " | |||
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"why do swinging and the club then if you would not share, love it what you make of it and the feeling you get when you are with the person you are in love with I look in devils eyes when a guy is fucking me and tell him I love him , because I do very much.
The quote came from someone who is single, his point being swinging couples can't really love each other.
I do not agree with his comment at all.
Plus people like Cali and Jemima and myself who are into BDSM, have another level of trust between our partners as what we do can be extreme.
ok i agree with the swingers can be in love but other things other than BDSM involve trust for some people trust is not given easily so not sure i agree that BDSM is only way to have extra trust with your partner
"I dont think I said its the only way but bdsm does involve another layer of trust for both dom/me and sub. I'm a sadist so our play an involve things that hurt . Yes i'm an angelic sadist  | |||
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"why do swinging and the club then if you would not share, love it what you make of it and the feeling you get when you are with the person you are in love with I look in devils eyes when a guy is fucking me and tell him I love him , because I do very much.
The quote came from someone who is single, his point being swinging couples can't really love each other.
I do not agree with his comment at all.
Plus people like Cali and Jemima and myself who are into BDSM, have another level of trust between our partners as what we do can be extreme.
ok i agree with the swingers can be in love but other things other than BDSM involve trust for some people trust is not given easily so not sure i agree that BDSM is only way to have extra trust with your partner
I dont think I said its the only way but bdsm does involve another layer of trust for both dom/me and sub. I'm a sadist so our play an involve things that hurt .
Yes i'm an angelic sadist
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" Yes but bdsm neednt involve love in the romantic sense, and for the many doesnt." You know I think that being in love with each other can make bdsm a mine field.. but that is for another thread lol
I do think that for me I can be how I am because I know I am loved and valued.. we dont swing really as Master and Slave, simply two people that love each other.. we only mention it because I have my collar and Master sometimes directs and I always call Master, well Master.. and may seem a bit odd if we didnt.
We play with others sexually because we enjoy sex.. and love watching each other.. and being watched and exploring the world in a deviant manner.
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" Yes but bdsm neednt involve love in the romantic sense, and for the many doesnt. You know I think that being in love with each other can make bdsm a mine field.. but that is for another thread lol
I do think that for me I can be how I am because I know I am loved and valued.. we dont swing really as Master and Slave, simply two people that love each other.. we only mention it because I have my collar and Master sometimes directs and I always call Master, well Master.. and may seem a bit odd if we didnt.
We play with others sexually because we enjoy sex.. and love watching each other.. and being watched and exploring the world in a deviant manner.
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"why do swinging and the club then if you would not share, love it what you make of it and the feeling you get when you are with the person you are in love with I look in devils eyes when a guy is fucking me and tell him I love him , because I do very much.
The quote came from someone who is single, his point being swinging couples can't really love each other.
I do not agree with his comment at all.
Plus people like Cali and Jemima and myself who are into BDSM, have another level of trust between our partners as what we do can be extreme.
ok i agree with the swingers can be in love but other things other than BDSM involve trust for some people trust is not given easily so not sure i agree that BDSM is only way to have extra trust with your partner
I dont think I said its the only way but bdsm does involve another layer of trust for both dom/me and sub. I'm a sadist so our play an involve things that hurt .
Yes i'm an angelic sadist
Yes but bdsm neednt involve love in the romantic sense, and for the many doesnt."There are many forms of love and for some its there and others it isnt . As with swinging the bdsm world has many layers and embraces not just D/s but all the various kinks and fetishes that exist. I stumbled upon bdsm accidentaly,didn't even know it existed , so glad i did though
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" Yes but bdsm neednt involve love in the romantic sense, and for the many doesnt. You know I think that being in love with each other can make bdsm a mine field.. but that is for another thread lol
I do think that for me I can be how I am because I know I am loved and valued.. we dont swing really as Master and Slave, simply two people that love each other.. we only mention it because I have my collar and Master sometimes directs and I always call Master, well Master.. and may seem a bit odd if we didnt.
We play with others sexually because we enjoy sex.. and love watching each other.. and being watched and exploring the world in a deviant manner.
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"why do swinging and the club then if you would not share, love it what you make of it and the feeling you get when you are with the person you are in love with I look in devils eyes when a guy is fucking me and tell him I love him , because I do very much.
The quote came from someone who is single, his point being swinging couples can't really love each other.
I do not agree with his comment at all.
Plus people like Cali and Jemima and myself who are into BDSM, have another level of trust between our partners as what we do can be extreme.
ok i agree with the swingers can be in love but other things other than BDSM involve trust for some people trust is not given easily so not sure i agree that BDSM is only way to have extra trust with your partner
I dont think I said its the only way but bdsm does involve another layer of trust for both dom/me and sub. I'm a sadist so our play an involve things that hurt .
Yes i'm an angelic sadist
Yes but bdsm neednt involve love in the romantic sense, and for the many doesnt.
There are many forms of love and for some its there and others it isnt . As with swinging the bdsm world has many layers and embraces not just D/s but all the various kinks and fetishes that exist.
I stumbled upon bdsm accidentaly,didn't even know it existed , so glad i did though
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" I stumbled upon bdsm accidentaly,didn't even know it existed , so glad i did though
Angel "same here.. but ohhhhhh best thing that ever happened to me..
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession."Having read the OPs profile, id say its was more fem control than love but good luck with your marriage should it proceed  | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel "Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us! | |||
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" Having read the OPs profile, id say its was more fem control than love but good luck with your marriage should it proceed "I am actually quite confused what the OP profile has to do with what is being asked.. or why you think that their marriage may not succeed.. and as she is his mistress I would rather hope the female had control
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession.
Having read the OPs profile, id say its was more fem control than love but good luck with your marriage should it proceed "
Come out from under the bridge have you...
There profile is to meet people for sex...it describes their sexual realtionship, one that seems fun fufilling and fabulous to me...a great foundation to a good marriage.
i assume you would question ours too...well i think angel will be as happy after 22 years as we are | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us! "so only men can be in control, | |||
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" Having read the OPs profile, id say its was more fem control than love but good luck with your marriage should it proceed
I am actually quite confused what the OP profile has to do with what is being asked.. or why you think that their marriage may not succeed.. and as she is his mistress I would rather hope the female had control
Cali "A profile is idea of ones person, so we think its fully relevant. So where did we say, we doubt their marriage? Good luck to the "mistress" but we find it very hard to swallow the love thing, which WAS the original statement. So wer assuming this "mistress" will in fact love all of her subjects....sorry, the two dont fit together we feel. Love has nothing to do with swinging, its personal, swinging is fun. | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession.
Having read the OPs profile, id say its was more fem control than love but good luck with your marriage should it proceed
Come out from under the bridge have you...
There profile is to meet people for sex...it describes their sexual realtionship, one that seems fun fufilling and fabulous to me...a great foundation to a good marriage.
i assume you would question ours too...well i think angel will be as happy after 22 years as we are "Entitled to opinion my learned friend, and no, we dont even intend reading your profile  | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us!
so only men can be in control, "No....the idea of control is disgusting, we share | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us! "Yes our relationship is D/s based, and yes I love him and he loves me , not sure what point you are making . Are you suggesting a female led D/s relationship can't have love ??. As the quote in my original post suggests swinging couples can't love each other ?? Yes i get lots of cake and eat it all | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us!
so only men can be in control,
No....the idea of control is disgusting, we share " | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us!
Yes our relationship is D/s based, and yes I love him and he loves me , not sure what point you are making . Are you suggesting a female led D/s relationship can't have love ??. As the quote in my original post suggests swinging couples can't love each other ??
Yes i get lots of cake and eat it all "Having read posts by them before u are committing the cardinal sin of not doing it like them
One of my best friends in the world is a Mistress, it might sound old fashioned but i believe that Dommes can have an incredible depth of feeling for their subs, cos i think it touches on maternal feelings.
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us!
Yes our relationship is D/s based, and yes I love him and he loves me , not sure what point you are making . Are you suggesting a female led D/s relationship can't have love ??. As the quote in my original post suggests swinging couples can't love each other ??
Yes i get lots of cake and eat it all "Lucky girl to have a man/sub/whatever that allows such  | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us!
so only men can be in control,
No....the idea of control is disgusting, we share
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us!
Yes our relationship is D/s based, and yes I love him and he loves me , not sure what point you are making . Are you suggesting a female led D/s relationship can't have love ??. As the quote in my original post suggests swinging couples can't love each other ??
Yes i get lots of cake and eat it all
Lucky girl to have a man/sub/whatever that allows such "trip trap trip trap | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession.
Having read the OPs profile, id say its was more fem control than love but good luck with your marriage should it proceed
Come out from under the bridge have you...
There profile is to meet people for sex...it describes their sexual realtionship, one that seems fun fufilling and fabulous to me...a great foundation to a good marriage.
i assume you would question ours too...well i think angel will be as happy after 22 years as we are "Funny how after slating us once more, you block us lol...good luck, we all have an entitlement to our views | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession.
Having read the OPs profile, id say its was more fem control than love but good luck with your marriage should it proceed
Come out from under the bridge have you...
There profile is to meet people for sex...it describes their sexual realtionship, one that seems fun fufilling and fabulous to me...a great foundation to a good marriage.
i assume you would question ours too...well i think angel will be as happy after 22 years as we are
Funny how after slating us once more, you block us lol...good luck, we all have an entitlement to our views"NAw i blocked u last time u were judgmental and offensive... happy trolling | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us!
Yes our relationship is D/s based, and yes I love him and he loves me , not sure what point you are making . Are you suggesting a female led D/s relationship can't have love ??. As the quote in my original post suggests swinging couples can't love each other ??
Yes i get lots of cake and eat it all
Lucky girl to have a man/sub/whatever that allows such
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession.
Having read the OPs profile, id say its was more fem control than love but good luck with your marriage should it proceed
Come out from under the bridge have you...
There profile is to meet people for sex...it describes their sexual realtionship, one that seems fun fufilling and fabulous to me...a great foundation to a good marriage.
i assume you would question ours too...well i think angel will be as happy after 22 years as we are
Funny how after slating us once more, you block us lol...good luck, we all have an entitlement to our views
NAw i blocked u last time u were judgmental and offensive...
happy trolling"Its opinion, not everyone will agree with everyone, chatshows make millions from difference of opinion. Id say you wer more judgemental and offensive, you dont even know us nor never spoken, so how can you make that call? | |||
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" Love has nothing to do with swinging, its personal, swinging is fun. "yes but most couples swing with the person they are in love with.. which was the question that the OP asked as someone had said that if you swing.. you cant love your partner. That is what is being asked.. And control is very subjective, and in all relationships there is a degree of it.. and I cant see where the BDSM aspect means there is no sharing.. and its often a relationship that is very deeply based on love and shared values.. as after all, your hardly going to pick a dominant ( male or female) whose basic ideas differ a million miles from yours.
Ie for me.. a Master that wanted me pierced wouldnt have worked as no matter how much I may have wanted to please... I couldnt do it without causing me harm.
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us!
Yes our relationship is D/s based, and yes I love him and he loves me , not sure what point you are making . Are you suggesting a female led D/s relationship can't have love ??. As the quote in my original post suggests swinging couples can't love each other ??
Yes i get lots of cake and eat it all
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Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us!
Yes our relationship is D/s based, and yes I love him and he loves me , not sure what point you are making . Are you suggesting a female led D/s relationship can't have love ??. As the quote in my original post suggests swinging couples can't love each other ??
Yes i get lots of cake and eat it all
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some very good thoughtfull posts"Some supportive some not so, thats life. We all see life differently, who says whats right or wrong. In our apparent tunnelled view, we feel theres more talk and non swinging events that go on than actually swinging. What next, petrol in a shoe shop?? lol | |||
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"every couples different and want different things from swinging, if they wont share then its not a bad thing and they are no more right or wrong than those who do. i dont think it means they love them more or less than someone who does share. the only time i think is when someone is in the wrong is when they claim to be swingers and are attached, but only play alone and wouldnt involve their partner/let them know because they couldnt bare to see them with another man etc." You also have to take into account, how unfair not sharing is to others. We would never meet soft swappers, nor couples that want fem fun only, or one way swap....its just greedy and selfish. Relationships are totally separate in our eyes, at meets we play with no issues. Our lives continue after, having made a nice fun friend | |||
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and some people I think forget that sharing doesnt have to be a physical act.
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"I dont think not sharing is selfish.. its just that couples chosen way to play... In the way we play I most likely have at least 50guys to every one woman Master plays with.. but we would never swap.. as its not our thing.. we prefer to be involved even if its just watching..
and some people I think forget that sharing doesnt have to be a physical act.
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" Granted, its just not our thing, we feel swinging is all about experience and sharing equally. "but Master and I share the pleasure mutually.. And we definately experience it together. I think what I am trying to say is what to you maybe not sharing and experiencing things together.. to another couple is totally sharing.
For me for instance I couldnt ever see the point in us meeting a couple, and him having her, and me having the guy... we would get far more out of a 3sum either way or me watching or Master watching.
however, this comes from the tight bond we have together and that I can know from a single look or tone in Masters voice how aroused he is as he watches me taking a cock ( just for instance)
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" Granted, its just not our thing, we feel swinging is all about experience and sharing equally.
but Master and I share the pleasure mutually.. And we definately experience it together. I think what I am trying to say is what to you maybe not sharing and experiencing things together.. to another couple is totally sharing.
For me for instance I couldnt ever see the point in us meeting a couple, and him having her, and me having the guy... we would get far more out of a 3sum either way or me watching or Master watching.
however, this comes from the tight bond we have together and that I can know from a single look or tone in Masters voice how aroused he is as he watches me taking a cock ( just for instance)
Cali "Sir was talking to me yesterday of how things will go when we visit a cinema...it will be such an intimate sharing i cant begin to describe it, me Him and as many men as he chooses... | |||
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" Sir was talking to me yesterday of how things will go when we visit a cinema...it will be such an intimate sharing i cant begin to describe it, me Him and as many men as he chooses... "Mmmmm you know I totally get that And Master and I still rate our cinema trips together as some of the most intense and shared moments of our sexual adventure ever.. it was mmmmm I cant wait to get there together again.. but I do like going alone and getting all the photos.. sending teasing messages to Master while I sort out his report. Cali | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession.
Having read the OPs profile, id say its was more fem control than love but good luck with your marriage should it proceed
Come out from under the bridge have you...
There profile is to meet people for sex...it describes their sexual realtionship, one that seems fun fufilling and fabulous to me...a great foundation to a good marriage.
i assume you would question ours too...well i think angel will be as happy after 22 years as we are
Funny how after slating us once more, you block us lol...good luck, we all have an entitlement to our views
NAw i blocked u last time u were judgmental and offensive...
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Its opinion, not everyone will agree with everyone, chatshows make millions from difference of opinion. Id say you wer more judgemental and offensive, you dont even know us nor never spoken, so how can you make that call? "From posts like this "No....the idea of control is disgusting, we share" and this "So wise one, all women at greedy girl nights and gang bangs sre slags?" No these are just greedy and invariably very selfish, not someone wed like to play with.....thoughts of "busted sofa" spring to mind! God knows what they might be carrying" | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession.
Having read the OPs profile, id say its was more fem control than love but good luck with your marriage should it proceed
Come out from under the bridge have you...
There profile is to meet people for sex...it describes their sexual realtionship, one that seems fun fufilling and fabulous to me...a great foundation to a good marriage.
i assume you would question ours too...well i think angel will be as happy after 22 years as we are
Funny how after slating us once more, you block us lol...good luck, we all have an entitlement to our views
NAw i blocked u last time u were judgmental and offensive...
happy trolling
Its opinion, not everyone will agree with everyone, chatshows make millions from difference of opinion. Id say you wer more judgemental and offensive, you dont even know us nor never spoken, so how can you make that call?
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"No....the idea of control is disgusting, we share"
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"So wise one, all women at greedy girl nights and gang bangs sre slags?"
No these are just greedy and invariably very selfish, not someone wed like to play with.....thoughts of "busted sofa" spring to mind! God knows what they might be carrying""Wel if the cap fits | |||
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"am not gonna question every couples love onhere. would be interesting to see how many lasted if you took swinging out of their equation tho "I guess that is a way to test true love but not the only way. Relationships can falter if money is taken out, a job, a home, children ............ or even if something is added, drinking, drugs, a mistress a "stirring" "friend" ....... I would guess if you truly love a person nothing would ever make a difference to your love. | |||
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"I think there is a difference between sex and making love. Totally "and between saying you love someone and loving them. | |||
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"I think there is a difference between sex and making love. Totally
and between saying you love someone and loving them."If you love someone, you show them, the words are superficial, we as a couple rarely say the words but our actions speak volumes | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us!
so only men can be in control,
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"every couples different and want different things from swinging, if they wont share then its not a bad thing and they are no more right or wrong than those who do. i dont think it means they love them more or less than someone who does share. the only time i think is when someone is in the wrong is when they claim to be swingers and are attached, but only play alone and wouldnt involve their partner/let them know because they couldnt bare to see them with another man etc. You also have to take into account, how unfair not sharing is to others. We would never meet soft swappers, nor couples that want fem fun only, or one way swap....its just greedy and selfish. Relationships are totally separate in our eyes, at meets we play with no issues. Our lives continue after, having made a nice fun friend "yes u r rite in your eyes they r selfish and u have seperated the two we have not and we r selfish completely thats our rite to be and as i u do not have to do soft swaps thats fine we have the rite not to do anything we wish not to. i don't sleep with other guys because it does nothing for me the idea of it appeals about as much as sitting in a bath of baked beans | |||
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"every couples different and want different things from swinging, if they wont share then its not a bad thing and they are no more right or wrong than those who do. i dont think it means they love them more or less than someone who does share. the only time i think is when someone is in the wrong is when they claim to be swingers and are attached, but only play alone and wouldnt involve their partner/let them know because they couldnt bare to see them with another man etc. You also have to take into account, how unfair not sharing is to others. We would never meet soft swappers, nor couples that want fem fun only, or one way swap....its just greedy and selfish. Relationships are totally separate in our eyes, at meets we play with no issues. Our lives continue after, having made a nice fun friend
yes u r rite in your eyes they r selfish and u have seperated the two we have not and we r selfish completely thats our rite to be and as i u do not have to do soft swaps thats fine we have the rite not to do anything we wish not to. i don't sleep with other guys because it does nothing for me the idea of it appeals about as much as sitting in a bath of baked beans "Took a while to insert the puntuation and make sense of that but....Each to their own but why are you on a swinging site then if not for personal gain? | |||
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"every couples different and want different things from swinging, if they wont share then its not a bad thing and they are no more right or wrong than those who do. i dont think it means they love them more or less than someone who does share. the only time i think is when someone is in the wrong is when they claim to be swingers and are attached, but only play alone and wouldnt involve their partner/let them know because they couldnt bare to see them with another man etc. You also have to take into account, how unfair not sharing is to others. We would never meet soft swappers, nor couples that want fem fun only, or one way swap....its just greedy and selfish. Relationships are totally separate in our eyes, at meets we play with no issues. Our lives continue after, having made a nice fun friend
yes u r rite in your eyes they r selfish and u have seperated the two we have not and we r selfish completely thats our rite to be and as i u do not have to do soft swaps thats fine we have the rite not to do anything we wish not to. i don't sleep with other guys because it does nothing for me the idea of it appeals about as much as sitting in a bath of baked beans
Took a while to insert the puntuation and make sense of that but....Each to their own but why are you on a swinging site then if not for personal gain? "i never said i could spell or puntuate and i never said i wasn't going to gain anything from it u just think your way is the only way i think thats called pig headed ignorance now why does that not surprise me after i have read some of the in my opnion complete rubbish u write | |||
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"After 17 years together in a vanilla life (and still madly in love with each other)we decided to spice things up a little and find out a little more about the swinging scene. Mostly to fulfil hubbys fantasy of sharing me with another. We both loved it. Was never sure how I'd feel sharing him with another. We both loved it. Swinging for us hasn't een without its trials and tribulations but because we love each other we communicate and work things out. My point is: we can swing only because we love and trust each other implicitly, if we didn't then it wouldn't be worth it. " | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession."WOW! This post is the reason I don't go for younger women... You speak with wisdom and experience that can only be acquired through time. Mad respect for you lady | |||
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"am not gonna question every couples love onhere. would be interesting to see how many lasted if you took swinging out of their equation tho "Once again the views of single men on here reaffirm why we don't have anything to do with them, because it's obvious that it's a meat market where they get their freak on with other peoples wives and have their proper relationships somewhere else.... | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession.WOW! This post is the reason I don't go for younger women... You speak with wisdom and experience that can only be acquired through time. Mad respect for you lady " | |||
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"am not gonna question every couples love onhere. would be interesting to see how many lasted if you took swinging out of their equation tho :-" Am very sure that the swinging part of our lives is something Mr Mc and I will reminisce about when we are old and grey and our bodies are well past the participating stage | |||
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"am not gonna question every couples love onhere. would be interesting to see how many lasted if you took swinging out of their equation tho :- Am very sure that the swinging part of our lives is something Mr Mc and I will reminisce about when we are old and grey and our bodies are well past the participating stage "
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"every couples different and want different things from swinging, if they wont share then its not a bad thing and they are no more right or wrong than those who do. i dont think it means they love them more or less than someone who does share. the only time i think is when someone is in the wrong is when they claim to be swingers and are attached, but only play alone and wouldnt involve their partner/let them know because they couldnt bare to see them with another man etc. You also have to take into account, how unfair not sharing is to others. We would never meet soft swappers, nor couples that want fem fun only, or one way swap....its just greedy and selfish. Relationships are totally separate in our eyes, at meets we play with no issues. Our lives continue after, having made a nice fun friend
yes u r rite in your eyes they r selfish and u have seperated the two we have not and we r selfish completely thats our rite to be and as i u do not have to do soft swaps thats fine we have the rite not to do anything we wish not to. i don't sleep with other guys because it does nothing for me the idea of it appeals about as much as sitting in a bath of baked beans
Took a while to insert the puntuation and make sense of that but....Each to their own but why are you on a swinging site then if not for personal gain?
i never said i could spell or puntuate and i never said i wasn't going to gain anything from it u just think your way is the only way i think thats called pig headed ignorance now why does that not surprise me after i have read some of the in my opnion complete rubbish u write"Well i think theres a little more rubbish going on here than what i write, it seems most in these rooms are wound so tightly that snapping is the only result. Sorry for spelling punctuation wrong, before anyone decides to be so petty | |||
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"The "can't be in love if you swing" attitude really pisses us off. So it was something allegedly said by a single guy, that means there's a likely 50/50 chance that he's single because he's been an arsehole with no idea of what love is about. Also, we don't believe that love has anything to do with not swapping partners, its most probably down to insecurity, wondering if your partner loves you enough to stay with you after they've had sex with someone else. It's doubtful they don't want to swap, chances are it's because they daren't, a lot of these people can't separate love from sex. And for the record we'd die for one another and are as much in love now as we were 26 years ago, if not more. We started swinging because we'd had a few close brushes with the Grim Reaper and decided that life was for living and swinging was one of the itches we wanted to scratch. Also to let each other get as much pleasure out of life as possible. We swing because we're totally confident in our love for each other and secure in our relationship. Rant over!
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession."Could not have said it better myself, we are most deffinatly in love and also got engaged a few weeks ago. X | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession.
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession.
Could not have said it better myself, we are most deffinatly in love and also got engaged a few weeks ago. X
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
Truly, madly, deeply, hmmmmmm, yet your profile ooozes fem dominance, MMMMF??? Sounds like 2 cakes and eating to us!
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"The "can't be in love if you swing" attitude really pisses us off. So it was something allegedly said by a single guy, that means there's a likely 50/50 chance that he's single because he's been an arsehole with no idea of what love is about. Also, we don't believe that love has anything to do with not swapping partners, its most probably down to insecurity, wondering if your partner loves you enough to stay with you after they've had sex with someone else. It's doubtful they don't want to swap, chances are it's because they daren't, a lot of these people can't separate love from sex. And for the record we'd die for one another and are as much in love now as we were 26 years ago, if not more. We started swinging because we'd had a few close brushes with the Grim Reaper and decided that life was for living and swinging was one of the itches we wanted to scratch. Also to let each other get as much pleasure out of life as possible. We swing because we're totally confident in our love for each other and secure in our relationship. Rant over!
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"For some people maybe they can't get their heads around someone they love having sex with others, but personally I think the physical can be divorced from the emotional - you make love to the one you love and you have sex with those you don't." Agree here, we also only kiss one another (although l kiss women). We find this cuts the emotional side of sex out of the equation when others are involved. | |||
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"For some people maybe they can't get their heads around someone they love having sex with others, but personally I think the physical can be divorced from the emotional - you make love to the one you love and you have sex with those you don't.Agree here, we also only kiss one another (although l kiss women). We find this cuts the emotional side of sex out of the equation when others are involved. "So if you did kiss does that mean emotions could develop for someone else?? I question that... | |||
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"For some people maybe they can't get their heads around someone they love having sex with others, but personally I think the physical can be divorced from the emotional - you make love to the one you love and you have sex with those you don't.Agree here, we also only kiss one another (although l kiss women). We find this cuts the emotional side of sex out of the equation when others are involved. So if you did kiss does that mean emotions could develop for someone else?? I question that... "I never used to kiss either but now I do sometimes but not others its personal choice and who am I to question what others belleve is a act of love. I never used to kiss as I saw it as emotional but I have changed my view but again that's personal choice just because I have changed my view does not mean those who do not have the same view as me are wrong. I could be wrong ! | |||
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"The "can't be in love if you swing" attitude really pisses us off. So it was something allegedly said by a single guy, that means there's a likely 50/50 chance that he's single because he's been an arsehole with no idea of what love is about. Also, we don't believe that love has anything to do with not swapping partners, its most probably down to insecurity, wondering if your partner loves you enough to stay with you after they've had sex with someone else. It's doubtful they don't want to swap, chances are it's because they daren't, a lot of these people can't separate love from sex. And for the record we'd die for one another and are as much in love now as we were 26 years ago, if not more. We started swinging because we'd had a few close brushes with the Grim Reaper and decided that life was for living and swinging was one of the itches we wanted to scratch. Also to let each other get as much pleasure out of life as possible. We swing because we're totally confident in our love for each other and secure in our relationship. Rant over!
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"We were madly in love for 10 years before introducing an alternative lifestyle into our 'normal' everyday life. 8 months down the road, our love is actually deeper and on a whole new level, which is rather hard to explain, l guess it's like being a child and having a naughty secret with your best friend, it tickles the tummy We can only see our love getting stronger and stronger over the years. Whoop, whoop to the wonderful, naughty world of Swinging and Dogging. " | |||
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"I think there is a difference between sex and making love. " Definitely. According to a non-swinging single female friend of ours, men can make love or have sex, whereas women can only ever make love.  | |||
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"We've become even deeper in love since we started swinging. We thought we were as deep as it's possible to be before but it's incredible now. "100% agree with you there | |||
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"I think there is a difference between sex and making love. Definitely. According to a non-swinging single female friend of ours, men can make love or have sex, whereas women can only ever make love. "rubbish, I can have sex, and no one's tellin me otherwise. It's just playtime for us. | |||
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"I think there is a difference between sex and making love. Definitely. According to a non-swinging single female friend of ours, men can make love or have sex, whereas women can only ever make love.
rubbish, I can have sex, and no one's tellin me otherwise. It's just playtime for us."Don't worry. We didn't agree with her. | |||
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"We love each other very much and we swing to. For us seeing our partners with another person just heightens the love we have for each other" | |||
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"swinging will never save a failed marrage, and couples who swing and split up, in my opinion would have split anyway swinging or not" | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession.
Having read the OPs profile, id say its was more fem control than love but good luck with your marriage should it proceed
Come out from under the bridge have you...
There profile is to meet people for sex...it describes their sexual realtionship, one that seems fun fufilling and fabulous to me...a great foundation to a good marriage.
i assume you would question ours too...well i think angel will be as happy after 22 years as we are
Funny how after slating us once more, you block us lol...good luck, we all have an entitlement to our views" | |||
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"We swing precisely because we are in love and trust each other completely. Our love goes well beyond a physical expression, although we do spend an awful lot of time expressing it. We love swapping and sharing, but it's purely sexual gratification, fantasy fulfilment and fun with nice people! Absolutely agree. I count myself very lucky to have a partner who I've known for twenty years in that we have such a fulfilling relationship along with an amazingly family life. Sex is great and so much better when u love the person u share the journey with. We have no jealousy between us and as long as we play tgthr, we are happy to try anything. It's massively exciting and we love it xxx" | |||
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"Thank you very much everybody. I have really enjoyed reading your comments. X" eh...surely its angel who should be thanking ppl...i dont think anyone posted for you | |||
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"Yes, the reason we started swinging is because we were in love, and secure in our relationship and both loved sex,,, i am bisexual so it was just a natural progression from being with a woman to being with couples, my partner loves to watch me get fucked and i love to watch him with other women... and know that the sex is great but will never be as good as it is with eachother because there is something extra with eachother... love (and of course experience in knowing what eachother likes :P) so yes, people who swing can be in love.. of course there are those who arent couples who swing together, those who arent in love but are doing it to save their marriage etc etc etc.. but i think ( or at least i like to think) that most people who are couples on here love eachother very much and are just horny and understand that experiences with other people can be a good expansion on your loving relationship! " | |||
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"Thank you very much everybody. I have really enjoyed reading your comments. X eh...surely its angel who should be thanking ppl...i dont think anyone posted for you "You are correct... However the posts were very enlightening and positive. Clarified quite a few own personal questions.  | |||
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"Swinging enhances our sex and love life. After a fab meet we like nothing better than reaffirming our personal feelings for each other " | |||
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"I suppose it could seem against 'human nature' to share your significant other with someone else. Wars were started for this let alone all the murders there has been because someone 'cheated'. If folks are not into the 'scene' it must seem impossible to understand, hence some think if they do it they can't love each other." But there is a difference between cheating on and sharing your partner. one is an honest act with all good faith and love and adventurous spirit, the other is a selfish, lie and deceitful act. The problem is that from a young age we are told, that when a mummy and daddy love each other very much they have sex and from that point on people are programmed that sex means love and vice versa... which is completely untrue,, sex is a carnal desire driven by a basic need to reproduce (compounded by the need for pleasure hence sex feels good) however over time we have evolved enough that we can cut out the icky baby part of it and just enjoy the pleasure side of it... some people ride their bikes fast, some people jump out of aeroplanes and some people watch corrination street to get their kicks... and some people go out and share a sexual (and hopefully pleasurable) experience with other people... some of those people are in relationships.. some are not. its got very little to do with love... if anything at all. it would be easier to think that because woman a and man a have sex with woman b and man b that people would think they were all in love.. because (as we are taught) people don't have sex unless they are in love! lol | |||
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"For some people maybe they can't get their heads around someone they love having sex with others, but personally I think the physical can be divorced from the emotional - you make love to the one you love and you have sex with those you don't.Agree here, we also only kiss one another (although l kiss women). We find this cuts the emotional side of sex out of the equation when others are involved. "Having thought about this subject some more, I think it's ridiculous for someone to tell people they can't love someone and have sex with others. That's a very one dimensional and narrow view. It's like saying 100% of your relationship is sex, which clearly it isn't. When you are in a relationship with someone you love you connect on an emotional, intellectual, spriritual, physical, circumstantial, social and sexual level amongst others. A sexual relationship with a third party is obviously just about the physical and sexual. Personally I do think you can kiss a sexual partner whilst loving someone else, you'd just kiss them differently, like you make love differently. That said, it's for everyone to have their own likes/dislikes/rules and way of doing it and it's not for anyone to tell them they'r wrong. To the couples who have a loving and swinging relationship, good on you. Many of us single guys want that, but it is hard finding someone you love and who shares your attitude to sex. | |||
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"I rarely post but would like peoples thoughts on this comment. ",does anyone know what being in love means on here? i doubt it. i can never share a lady i was truely in love with" Yes I know its a persons point of view and we have to respect that also. Would like to say Devil is the man I love, truly, madly ,deeply. He proposed on the 11th April and we also met through fab. Angel
i don't have to respect their point of view at all...no more than i respect members of the BNP, if ideas are bollocks we are free to say so.
They dont understand swinging, have a horribly misogynistic and outdated view of marriage and equality (your partner is not yours to share ffs) and quite frankly have never probably been in love... not adult mature love that isn't about possession and lust but about completion, security, and trust
Two of my favorite quotes on love...
immature love says i want you because i need you, mature love says i need you because i want you...Erich Fromme...
Nothing you have not given away will ever really be yours. C S Lewis.
They ,it seems to me , are stuck in an adolescent view of love as some form of obsession." | |||
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