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"Why do clubs charge more for single makes them single females and couples is that not sexiest " Because they can! | |||
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"Why do clubs charge more for single makes them single females and couples is that not sexiest " It's perfectly legal. They are allowed to charge lower prices for under represented groups such as single women and couples. | |||
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"Why do clubs charge more for single makes them single females and couples is that not sexiest " Really! You probably don’t know what a Unicorn is. | |||
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"I do but they can stop to many man coming in if it was the otherness round woman would be up in arms" Charging men more stops there being too many men. | |||
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"Not if the door staff was doing there job as they do in night clubs" Swingers clubs don't need door staff like night clubs do. People don't go into swingers clubs getting d*unk & cause trouble | |||
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"Not if the door staff was doing there job as they do in night clubs" That’s not a proper comparison. If it was a question of just a having a quota of single males then they would all be queuing outside before the club opened. Then once the couples and singles arrived they’d find a bunch of blokes awaiting their arrival, and probably turn straight round. Just accept it for what it is. | |||
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"Not if the door staff was doing there job as they do in night clubs Swingers clubs don't need door staff like night clubs do. People don't go into swingers clubs getting d*unk & cause trouble " Might need them for a the guys chasing you | |||
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"Not if the door staff was doing there job as they do in night clubs That’s not a proper comparison. If it was a question of just a having a quota of single males then they would all be queuing outside before the club opened. Then once the couples and singles arrived they’d find a bunch of blokes awaiting their arrival, and probably turn straight round. Just accept it for what it is. " Yep. We’ve nearly left a couple of times because of creepy blokes hanging around outside. | |||
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"Not if the door staff was doing there job as they do in night clubs Swingers clubs don't need door staff like night clubs do. People don't go into swingers clubs getting d*unk & cause trouble Might need them for a the guys chasing you " I have the steam room for that, 10 mins & they pussy out & leave. I can stay in for ages | |||
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"its a very grey area from a lawful point of view as it touches area's of equality laws .... all it take is for one man with heavy pockets to challenge it then it could be a whole new scenario. equality laws cover public and private venues the only way it wont cover is private membership but even that can be a greay area" I looked into it and private members clubs can charge under represented groups such as single women and couples less. Even if someone did challenge it, they wouldn't win. | |||
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"It's not sexist because sexism implies prejudice and they're just discriminating in an attempt to improve the ratio. IMO it's counterproductive, mind - when a guy has paid £60 to get in they're looking to "get their money's worth" much more often, whereas where places are cheaper you get more single male regulars and they're not so fussed about taking their time. (Also: some women I've spoken to have felt put off by the implication of the "discount", especially when it's basically free)" There are many single male regulars at chams that are happy to pay the membership and entry fee and they don't think they are owed anything. It's usually the single guys that literally just want a quick shag that act like dicks in clubs, luckily there aren't many of them. | |||
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"I do but they can stop to many man coming in if it was the otherness round woman would be up in arms" Most swinging clubs have minimal staff, they’d need to employ door men to police the hordes of single guys if the entry price was the same as women. Also, some single guys have no clue how to interact, they just follow couples around all night , cock in hand, we’ve never witnessed a single woman following couples around, rubbing their clits. So basically, single guys get charged more to keep the numbers down. | |||
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"There are many single male regulars at chams that are happy to pay the membership and entry fee and they don't think they are owed anything. It's usually the single guys that literally just want a quick shag that act like dicks in clubs, luckily there aren't many of them. " Down south my favourite place to go with a parner looking for single guys is Remix in Swindon because the guys are just less.. desperate, and more open/chatty. By contrast, at AbFabs there was much more of a snail-trail vibe. I've seen the pattern repeated at different clubs across the country and, yes, that includes Chams (I'm sure Chams has some primo, regular single males but it's definitely more of the latter vibe). | |||
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"There are many single male regulars at chams that are happy to pay the membership and entry fee and they don't think they are owed anything. It's usually the single guys that literally just want a quick shag that act like dicks in clubs, luckily there aren't many of them. Down south my favourite place to go with a parner looking for single guys is Remix in Swindon because the guys are just less.. desperate, and more open/chatty. By contrast, at AbFabs there was much more of a snail-trail vibe. I've seen the pattern repeated at different clubs across the country and, yes, that includes Chams (I'm sure Chams has some primo, regular single males but it's definitely more of the latter vibe)." I'm honestly suprised at that, alot of couples go on a Friday and they say the single men are respectful. I've had very few issues personally and I only go on mixed nights. | |||
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"I'm honestly suprised at that, alot of couples go on a Friday and they say the single men are respectful. I've had very few issues personally and I only go on mixed nights. " I mean this by way of comparison, we get in to more conversations (and that leads to more fun) rather than "trouble" per se. (We have had trouble at Chams but not more so than other clubs, and generally the offenders are looking for passive victims - so learn quickly) | |||
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"I'm honestly suprised at that, alot of couples go on a Friday and they say the single men are respectful. I've had very few issues personally and I only go on mixed nights. I mean this by way of comparison, we get in to more conversations (and that leads to more fun) rather than "trouble" per se. (We have had trouble at Chams but not more so than other clubs, and generally the offenders are looking for passive victims - so learn quickly)" | |||
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"Ok let's put this out there what countes as a couple is it mm ff or mf " Mf couples usually. | |||
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"All about supply and demand my friend. For example - the same brand but different colour womens razors cost more than mens, why?... its supply and demand haha" This is why I use my hubbys! Haha! * just for clarification. I change the heads. Ok | |||
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"I do but they can stop to many man coming in if it was the otherness round woman would be up in arms Charging men more stops there being too many men. " Having to pre book stops this... "hello, I'm a single male, can I come to your club?" "No, we've already got our quota of guys" "okay" see, simply. It's to do with market forces, supply and demand. I go less because of the high prices. I'd be more than happy to pay the same as couples though. | |||
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"I do but they can stop to many man coming in if it was the otherness round woman would be up in arms" You mean a bit like you are?! | |||
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"Ok let's put this out there what countes as a couple is it mm ff or mf " Most clubs say mf. It is pointless counting ff, as it would generally be more expensive or the same price, and mm would invariably just be cheating to get in cheaper. | |||
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"They could simply limit the number of single guys and charge them the same !. It's all about money though, profits. It's off putting when looking for meets with couples and singles who say first meet in club, can be a very expensive night for nothing. My partner and I attend clubs, much cheaper together even if she's not up for playing. Some clubs even offer free entry for us !" Some clubs do do this..... | |||
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"Why do clubs charge more for single makes them single females and couples is that not sexiest " How much do clubs charge for single males? | |||
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"Because if they charged the same for single blokes there would be far too many idiots in them. The higher price is to put off the ones that think it's somewhere to get an 'easy shag'. Lower price for ladies and couples helps to keep the ratios enjoyable " That is bullshit. More because they can, if the price was the same, you can still balance the ratio. | |||
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"Why do clubs charge more for single males them single females and couples is that not sexiest " Supply and demand, more males less female and couples. You could say yes they do, but they would say they charge less to couples and single female to attract them to the club. | |||
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"Most clubs already descend into scenes of The Wanking Dead with towel zombies shambling around mumbling. Imagine how much worse it would be if the price was lower and even more came in. For every respectful guy who understands the club scene and is an absolute pleasure to talk to / play with, there's 9 zombies. We'd rather the ratio not go to 1-to-29." | |||
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"Club SX in Blackpool actually charges the same for single males as it does couples..... " And what are the ratios like, on an average night in SX? | |||
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"Most clubs already descend into scenes of The Wanking Dead with towel zombies shambling around mumbling. Imagine how much worse it would be if the price was lower and even more came in. For every respectful guy who understands the club scene and is an absolute pleasure to talk to / play with, there's 9 zombies. We'd rather the ratio not go to 1-to-29." Not saying the price should be lower of course that would be terrible. | |||
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"I do get it was just putting it out there to discuss" Theres no discussion to be had, you asked a question and it's been answered correctly a dozen times it is what it is, and wont be changing any time soon. | |||
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"Not if the door staff was doing there job as they do in night clubs" Obviously you’ve not been to a vanilla club where they turn guys away as “ too many guys tonight fellas” Clubs have a limit by law on capacity. It’s simple market forces. | |||
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"Most clubs already descend into scenes of The Wanking Dead with towel zombies shambling around mumbling. Imagine how much worse it would be if the price was lower and even more came in. For every respectful guy who understands the club scene and is an absolute pleasure to talk to / play with, there's 9 zombies. We'd rather the ratio not go to 1-to-29. Not saying the price should be lower of course that would be terrible." Lower in general, I mean. If a club charges single guys and single girls a tenner on a Saturday.. I guarantee the single girls stop going because of the influx of guys who see it as a tenner for a shag. | |||
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"Why do clubs charge more for single makes them single females and couples is that not sexiest Because they can! " This | |||
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"Most clubs already descend into scenes of The Wanking Dead with towel zombies shambling around mumbling. Imagine how much worse it would be if the price was lower and even more came in. For every respectful guy who understands the club scene and is an absolute pleasure to talk to / play with, there's 9 zombies. We'd rather the ratio not go to 1-to-29. Not saying the price should be lower of course that would be terrible. Lower in general, I mean. If a club charges single guys and single girls a tenner on a Saturday.. I guarantee the single girls stop going because of the influx of guys who see it as a tenner for a shag." | |||
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"Most clubs already descend into scenes of The Wanking Dead with towel zombies shambling around mumbling. Imagine how much worse it would be if the price was lower and even more came in. For every respectful guy who understands the club scene and is an absolute pleasure to talk to / play with, there's 9 zombies. We'd rather the ratio not go to 1-to-29. " This | |||
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"All about supply and demand my friend. For example - the same brand but different colour womens razors cost more than mens, why?... its supply and demand haha This is why I use my hubbys! Haha! * just for clarification. I change the heads. Ok " No clarification needed! Haha, I'm sure no one wants to use a blunt razor Change the heads at every glide if you like, you'll still be saving yourself money! | |||
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"The thing is guys just aren’t wanted like couples and women are. It’s a hard pill for some to swallow. But it’s true. " Almost 24 hours since this comment was posted, yet not one couple or single female has decried it. Speaks volumes | |||
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"The thing is guys just aren’t wanted like couples and women are. It’s a hard pill for some to swallow. But it’s true. Almost 24 hours since this comment was posted, yet not one couple or single female has decried it. Speaks volumes " I only want guys! | |||
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"The thing is guys just aren’t wanted like couples and women are. It’s a hard pill for some to swallow. But it’s true. Almost 24 hours since this comment was posted, yet not one couple or single female has decried it. Speaks volumes I only want guys! " Some people do want guys, but the majority of couples don’t. | |||
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"Why do clubs charge more for single makes them single females and couples is that not sexiest " yes the sexiest get in cheaper age old rule in swingers clubs | |||
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"The thing is guys just aren’t wanted like couples and women are. It’s a hard pill for some to swallow. But it’s true. Almost 24 hours since this comment was posted, yet not one couple or single female has decried it. Speaks volumes I only want guys! Some people do want guys, but the majority of couples don’t. " The only people I’ve played with in clubs, have been couples. Can’t think I’ve ever seen more than one or two single females, but I’m possibly going to the wrong clubs? | |||
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"its a very grey area from a lawful point of view as it touches area's of equality laws .... all it take is for one man with heavy pockets to challenge it then it could be a whole new scenario. equality laws cover public and private venues the only way it wont cover is private membership but even that can be a greay area" And what do you think the outcome would be if one man challenged it in court? It happened with car insurance for women, the result we all pay more. Do you think that if women paid more then more women would go? I imagine the reverse would happen. Then less men would go, club closes. But hey we have inequality. OP if it bothers you so much then challenge it ir don't go. | |||
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"The thing is guys just aren’t wanted like couples and women are. It’s a hard pill for some to swallow. But it’s true. " We agree. Would pay double for just couple or single fem nights. | |||
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"The thing is guys just aren’t wanted like couples and women are. It’s a hard pill for some to swallow. But it’s true. We agree. Would pay double for just couple or single fem nights. " Those nights are so much better. Don’t have to feel on edge. | |||
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"The thing is guys just aren’t wanted like couples and women are. It’s a hard pill for some to swallow. But it’s true. " hey maybe couples and single women should open clubs just for them i wonder what the business dynamic of such clubs would be oh and all clubs ive been to love single guys | |||
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"The thing is guys just aren’t wanted like couples and women are. It’s a hard pill for some to swallow. But it’s true. hey maybe couples and single women should open clubs just for them i wonder what the business dynamic of such clubs would be oh and all clubs ive been to love single guys " That’s because you aren’t going to nights when guys aren’t allowed in and those nights are so much busier. VA allow guys on a Friday. But saturdays they aren’t allowed in. Saturdays are so much busier and most people say they avoid Fridays to get away from the men. This isn’t everyone but it’s definitely more than half. | |||
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"The thing is guys just aren’t wanted like couples and women are. It’s a hard pill for some to swallow. But it’s true. hey maybe couples and single women should open clubs just for them i wonder what the business dynamic of such clubs would be oh and all clubs ive been to love single guys That’s because you aren’t going to nights when guys aren’t allowed in and those nights are so much busier. VA allow guys on a Friday. But saturdays they aren’t allowed in. Saturdays are so much busier and most people say they avoid Fridays to get away from the men. This isn’t everyone but it’s definitely more than half. " i only go on friday and Saturday nights mostly saturday nights and it is how ive described it, not been to the Victoria and Albert mind | |||
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"Overheard three fellows as they were getting undressed in the changing room, the conversation went something like, ‘it may be fairly expensive to get in, still cheaper than a brothel’. Odd species men in musth. Kind of was hoping one of them to see his wife in the club. " I'd love to find my wife in a club.... | |||
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"Overheard three fellows as they were getting undressed in the changing room, the conversation went something like, ‘it may be fairly expensive to get in, still cheaper than a brothel’. Odd species men in musth. Kind of was hoping one of them to see his wife in the club. I'd love to find my wife in a club...." does she get lost a lot? | |||
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"Why do clubs charge more for single makes them single females and couples is that not sexiest " It be supply and demand, that ol’ basic economic theory that often works in practice. As you pay your pennies in the hope of a fuck, Keynes et al are grinning smugly. | |||
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"Just look and see how many men appear in the top photos list. It’ll give an idea on the demand level. " its the men that are voting for women and couples | |||
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"Just look and see how many men appear in the top photos list. It’ll give an idea on the demand level. its the men that are voting for women and couples " There you go. Far too many on the scene. | |||
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"Just look and see how many men appear in the top photos list. It’ll give an idea on the demand level. its the men that are voting for women and couples There you go. Far too many on the scene. " Actually that’s not true 95% aren’t in the scene at all. They are just on here. | |||
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"Just look and see how many men appear in the top photos list. It’ll give an idea on the demand level. its the men that are voting for women and couples There you go. Far too many on the scene. Actually that’s not true 95% aren’t in the scene at all. They are just on here. " lol hey so all couples and all women are? I think you have tunnel vision, men unfortunately whether you like it or not keep the clubs alive as i said start a club up for just couples and women and see if it will work the evidence suggests the existing clubs dont agree including VA as they still allow single men in | |||
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"Just look and see how many men appear in the top photos list. It’ll give an idea on the demand level. its the men that are voting for women and couples There you go. Far too many on the scene. Actually that’s not true 95% aren’t in the scene at all. They are just on here. lol hey so all couples and all women are? I think you have tunnel vision, men unfortunately whether you like it or not keep the clubs alive as i said start a club up for just couples and women and see if it will work the evidence suggests the existing clubs dont agree including VA as they still allow single men in " But as most clubs limit the numbers of guys they aren’t the massive cash cow you believe them to be. | |||
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"Just look and see how many men appear in the top photos list. It’ll give an idea on the demand level. its the men that are voting for women and couples There you go. Far too many on the scene. Actually that’s not true 95% aren’t in the scene at all. They are just on here. lol hey so all couples and all women are? I think you have tunnel vision, men unfortunately whether you like it or not keep the clubs alive as i said start a club up for just couples and women and see if it will work the evidence suggests the existing clubs dont agree including VA as they still allow single men in But as most clubs limit the numbers of guys they aren’t the massive cash cow you believe them to be. " my argument stands if they aren't wanted why are they still allowed over the threshold and at a higher entry fee? | |||
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"Because a few people do want them. But not the demand that guys like to think. Maybe one in five couples at best. " so youre admitting there is demand for them now but youre coming up with an unsubstantiated statistic | |||
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"I do think it's shit that they have to pay more actually, it's just a money spinner from the clubs because they know there will always be men willing to pay it. " exactly its unfair but supply and demand | |||
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"I know we are a bit negative to men. It’s just we have never met a decent one that isn’t part of a couple. We are finding them the drivelling shits on here. " Probably because you're not looking for them. | |||
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"I know we are a bit negative to men. It’s just we have never met a decent one that isn’t part of a couple. We are finding them the drivelling shits on here. " not all men are the same though I'm a gent always, as usual all men are lumped into the same negative bracket and we pay the lions share where the clubs are concerned | |||
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"I do but they can stop to many man coming in if it was the otherness round woman would be up in arms" So? There’s millions of men already. It’s already overwhelmingly heavily outnumbering the rest of the scene! | |||
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"I know we are a bit negative to men. It’s just we have never met a decent one that isn’t part of a couple. We are finding them the drivelling shits on here. not all men are the same though I'm a gent always, as usual all men are lumped into the same negative bracket and we pay the lions share where the clubs are concerned " Sadly the ones who stand out are the ones that most want to avoid. There are definitely some decent men out there who stand head and shoulders above the rest | |||
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"I know we are a bit negative to men. It’s just we have never met a decent one that isn’t part of a couple. We are finding them the drivelling shits on here. not all men are the same though I'm a gent always, as usual all men are lumped into the same negative bracket and we pay the lions share where the clubs are concerned " Agreed. I have to say from my experience I have met a lot of decent respectable men in clubs, generally a higher number of these than the letchy wanking zombies. Maybe the higher entry fee has something to do with that, if they get no action they will see it as a waste of money as they just go looking for a quick lay. Even tho the pricing is somewhat unfair & definitely in favour of the ladies it has its benefits. | |||
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"Not if the door staff was doing there job as they do in night clubs Swingers clubs don't need door staff like night clubs do. People don't go into swingers clubs getting d*unk & cause trouble " I really like the vibe you get in a swingers club. | |||
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"I know we are a bit negative to men. It’s just we have never met a decent one that isn’t part of a couple. We are finding them the drivelling shits on here. not all men are the same though I'm a gent always, as usual all men are lumped into the same negative bracket and we pay the lions share where the clubs are concerned Agreed. I have to say from my experience I have met a lot of decent respectable men in clubs, generally a higher number of these than the letchy wanking zombies. Maybe the higher entry fee has something to do with that, if they get no action they will see it as a waste of money as they just go looking for a quick lay. Even tho the pricing is somewhat unfair & definitely in favour of the ladies it has its benefits." ive really never seen any men in clubs I've been to be disrespectful | |||
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"I know we are a bit negative to men. It’s just we have never met a decent one that isn’t part of a couple. We are finding them the drivelling shits on here. not all men are the same though I'm a gent always, as usual all men are lumped into the same negative bracket and we pay the lions share where the clubs are concerned Agreed. I have to say from my experience I have met a lot of decent respectable men in clubs, generally a higher number of these than the letchy wanking zombies. Maybe the higher entry fee has something to do with that, if they get no action they will see it as a waste of money as they just go looking for a quick lay. Even tho the pricing is somewhat unfair & definitely in favour of the ladies it has its benefits.ive really never seen any men in clubs I've been to be disrespectful " I've seen a few who won't take no for an answer & pester women however they are usually promptly dealt with & they have been a very small minority, I could count them on 1 hand | |||
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"Nothing to do with clubs, but Female porn stars are paid far more than Men. Is that sexist? Or is it to do with supply and demand? So Men if you think it's unfair to pay more to get into clubs, stop watching porn as a protest until the stars wages are "fair"." I noted with interest, a thread started for New Year’s Eve party, and the guest list had no single guys on it. There were several single females posting on the thread, crying out for single guys to get their names down, and they couldn’t believe they were struggling for attendees. Single guys were being charged £35 entry, single females were free. Here’s a thought; what if those single females, looking for single guys, had left £17.50 at reception, and the guys who got there early, could have had half their entry covered. Possibly would have encouraged more single guys for the event overall. Just a thought.... | |||
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"Nothing to do with clubs, but Female porn stars are paid far more than Men. Is that sexist? Or is it to do with supply and demand? So Men if you think it's unfair to pay more to get into clubs, stop watching porn as a protest until the stars wages are "fair". I noted with interest, a thread started for New Year’s Eve party, and the guest list had no single guys on it. There were several single females posting on the thread, crying out for single guys to get their names down, and they couldn’t believe they were struggling for attendees. Single guys were being charged £35 entry, single females were free. Here’s a thought; what if those single females, looking for single guys, had left £17.50 at reception, and the guys who got there early, could have had half their entry covered. Possibly would have encouraged more single guys for the event overall. Just a thought...." great thought but it would never happen | |||
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"I know we are a bit negative to men. It’s just we have never met a decent one that isn’t part of a couple. We are finding them the drivelling shits on here. " That’s harsh. I have met many fantastic single men both on here and at clubs. I have come across a few very disrespectful men in clubs who probably deserve the ‘drivelling shit’ title. But in my experience most single men do not come close to deserving that label. | |||
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"I know we are a bit negative to men. It’s just we have never met a decent one that isn’t part of a couple. We are finding them the drivelling shits on here. That’s harsh. I have met many fantastic single men both on here and at clubs. I have come across a few very disrespectful men in clubs who probably deserve the ‘drivelling shit’ title. But in my experience most single men do not come close to deserving that label. " Agreed, I've seen more couples cause shit than men. | |||
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"I know we are a bit negative to men. It’s just we have never met a decent one that isn’t part of a couple. We are finding them the drivelling shits on here. " There are a percentage of shitty single guys on here but most are, at the very least, decent blokes just trying to get along here. There are also plenty of shitty couples and single women here. That’s what you get when you have a cross section of society - a mix. There are definitely some arrogant shits on here though. | |||
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