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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? " Wevee given up waiting for people who find us interesting then turn out to be interesting themselves... The hunted shall become the hunter haha. | |||
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"I have a couples profile aswell and i am shocked by the abuse and assumptions single fellas make " totally agree, have a singles profile and I would never behave in the way that some single fellas do on here | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? " Am shocked that guys to this?! | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? " Even I get "fancy a suck" messages from random guys. I've started replying with a canned copy/paste response . There are decent guys around, but on here it's a numbers game to find the diamond among the rough. Good luck. | |||
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"We are pretty new to it all but Mrs has been on before and we just cant find a guy to suit us. We took a break over the holidays and have come back to have another go but have had similar experiences to you all so far. Either zero effort, want to meet this second or have even tried to flirt with Mrs alone. It's a shame as it's something we both want to try!" Exactly the same for us, its so sad | |||
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"Whenever I’ve met couples it’s gone really well tbf, usually good communication, pics exchanged and a mutually convenient time to meet There’s a lot of wind up merchants and especially fantasists on fab but it does go well at times as well" The good communication bit is something we have seriously struggled with, we often cant meet this second and the minute you say it wont be for a week or two that's it, interest totally gone. Affected my confidence a bit to be fair so still pondering going a different route with it all. | |||
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"And the old “i cant send face pics because.....” honestly do guys really think people will turn up and meet a complete stranger without even knowing what they look like, so so many sad reasons to question whether decent and genuine exist any more, we know they do but they are in a very very small minority, needle and haystack come to mind" There is absolutely no reason for not sending a pic in a message you can do direct from phone and there is no one I know who dont have a pic of themselves on phone you can even take an instant pic ... xx | |||
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" The good communication bit is something we have seriously struggled with, we often cant meet this second and the minute you say it wont be for a week or two that's it, interest totally gone. Affected my confidence a bit to be fair so still pondering going a different route with it all." Same for us too this seems to have turned from a swinging fun site to a fancy a shag now site, communication and connection is huge for us and without it we wont meet | |||
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" There is absolutely no reason for not sending a pic in a message you can do direct from phone and there is no one I know who dont have a pic of themselves on phone you can even take an instant pic ... xx" ^^^^^ this | |||
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"Same for us too this seems to have turned from a swinging fun site to a fancy a shag now site, communication and connection is huge for us and without it we wont meet" Totally this. We want to share the awesome fun we have with someone we get on with and enjoy being around, that way we can all be happy, comfortable and have loads of fun! I'm not looking for a rent-a-cock personally. | |||
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" Totally this. We want to share the awesome fun we have with someone we get on with and enjoy being around, that way we can all be happy, comfortable and have loads of fun! I'm not looking for a rent-a-cock personally." Sound like our doppelgängers lol | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? " We’ve noticed this to. We gave up around a year ago with all the sites we use. We do plan to try again soon but will most likely do our own searching and messaging. However, I have noticed by viewing the local updates regularly that at least 90% of the profiles are minimal in content to warrant us messaging them but I’m sure we’ll find someone eventually but accept it will take time. We certainly do not want to rely on guys inboxing us. Speaking with another couple they advised perhaps focusing on guys who have left great (non-graphic) verifications on other Couples profiles who seek single guys. | |||
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"In have messaged couples and they don’t even have the decency to reply " That generally means you are not what they looking for so it's a polite no thanks without getting into a debate about why you are not what they want | |||
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"In have messaged couples and they don’t even have the decency to reply " Also do you realise just HOW MANY messages couples get daily? This is why sometimes we don't reply because if your not what we are looking for we would spend a whole day replying, hence if you read our profile it does say if we don't reply then thats the reason | |||
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"So many timewasters or picture hunters have appeared in the last year. Or people pretending to be bi or in a couple etc One guy couldn’t accept no for an answer and got our old account removed with no help from admin and completely ruined our evening. " This is why we posted this thread it never used to be like this from when was on before | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? We’ve noticed this to. We gave up around a year ago with all the sites we use. We do plan to try again soon but will most likely do our own searching and messaging. However, I have noticed by viewing the local updates regularly that at least 90% of the profiles are minimal in content to warrant us messaging them but I’m sure we’ll find someone eventually but accept it will take time. We certainly do not want to rely on guys inboxing us. Speaking with another couple they advised perhaps focusing on guys who have left great (non-graphic) verifications on other Couples profiles who seek single guys. " The verification rabbit hole is actually a really good doorway to finding some lovely genuine people on Fab. There's no guarantee of course, but it's a good start for a lot of people | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? We’ve noticed this to. We gave up around a year ago with all the sites we use. We do plan to try again soon but will most likely do our own searching and messaging. However, I have noticed by viewing the local updates regularly that at least 90% of the profiles are minimal in content to warrant us messaging them but I’m sure we’ll find someone eventually but accept it will take time. We certainly do not want to rely on guys inboxing us. Speaking with another couple they advised perhaps focusing on guys who have left great (non-graphic) verifications on other Couples profiles who seek single guys. The verification rabbit hole is actually a really good doorway to finding some lovely genuine people on Fab. There's no guarantee of course, but it's a good start for a lot of people " The verification thing is a big thing for me - and that is speaking as single guy looking for couples. Whencouple/single guys has several verifications - then at least you know they are real/turn up and at least a few people can independently verify them. Even, I, as single guy, once in while get someone email me! More often than one - its someone with no verifications - that means they are not real. | |||
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"Sadly ive noticed a lot more of people exlecting a meet straight away or your labeled as a time waster, anyone else noticed this" Mostly single males yes rarely couples in our experience | |||
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"The verification thing is a big thing for me - and that is speaking as single guy looking for couples. Whencouple/single guys has several verifications - then at least you know they are real/turn up and at least a few people can independently verify them. Even, I, as single guy, once in while get someone email me! More often than one - its someone with no verifications - that means they are not real. " Not always, we are very much real just havent had the opportunity or the spark with someone to meet them yet! But I do understand what you mean, we must figure out a way to get verified soon and hopefully we have more luck... | |||
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"The verification thing is a big thing for me - and that is speaking as single guy looking for couples. Whencouple/single guys has several verifications - then at least you know they are real/turn up and at least a few people can independently verify them. Even, I, as single guy, once in while get someone email me! More often than one - its someone with no verifications - that means they are not real. Not always, we are very much real just havent had the opportunity or the spark with someone to meet them yet! But I do understand what you mean, we must figure out a way to get verified soon and hopefully we have more luck..." Go in the chat room together and speak to some verified cpls, doesn’t have to be “sex cam” just proves your both there, both real and you can be seen to both be involved. That will break the verification challenge really quick and easy.. | |||
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"The verification thing is a big thing for me - and that is speaking as single guy looking for couples. Whencouple/single guys has several verifications - then at least you know they are real/turn up and at least a few people can independently verify them. Even, I, as single guy, once in while get someone email me! More often than one - its someone with no verifications - that means they are not real. Not always, we are very much real just havent had the opportunity or the spark with someone to meet them yet! But I do understand what you mean, we must figure out a way to get verified soon and hopefully we have more luck... Go in the chat room together and speak to some verified cpls, doesn’t have to be “sex cam” just proves your both there, both real and you can be seen to both be involved. That will break the verification challenge really quick and easy.. " That's a great idea, thank you so much | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? " I think you’ve the wrong people chasing you guys x | |||
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"lol yes we find the same problems too one word messages ! whats that all about and on that note they want to be friends lol i ask you " We especially love the “your pics are amazing” messages... we only have a profile pic they can see.... just a 100% cut and paste and not a single word read or minute taken to read our profile... and thats just the “cpls” hahaha | |||
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"I have a couples profile aswell and i am shocked by the abuse and assumptions single fellas make " Quite right. I did once have a single female account too, the abuse and expectation that I was there just to 'fuck' them was unreal. They're much more respectful on the couples account, but suppose cos thats because there's another male involved with the fella. | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? " They are out there,trust us, but unless you bolt your message filters right down you have to wade through a hell of a lot of nonsense to find them. Even then, it doesn’t guarantee anything. It can get pretty tiresome. They are out there though | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? " Tell us what you want to hear. | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? " It's hard to find them but they exist. We've found some before we hope to find some again. | |||
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"lol yes we find the same problems too one word messages ! whats that all about and on that note they want to be friends lol i ask you " Great pictures in your profile | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? Tell us what you want to hear. " Something that shows you have read our profile, find us interesting and that reflects who you are and what you want. "Hi" or "Meet tonight?" doesnt do that. We try our best to reply to all the messages we get but since we get a lot of those it makes it super hard to get a conversation going. | |||
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"In our experience, not just guys, but women too. Too many fantasists and large egos, so we are very selective as to who we message." Absolutely agree - some couples and females are as bad - got abused last week because I'd actually made an effort...! lol | |||
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"Sadly the idiots mess it up for everyone don't they? There are some of us genuine guys out there - it's just that the one liners and the "fancy a …." lot outnumber us and end up putting people off. I'm always amazed if the "fancy a …" works with anyone..? I guess it must if they keep doing it...? Either way I wish they'd go of and play with themselves rather than playing with other peoples time and efforts. " Nobody is responsible for my success or failure on here but me..... | |||
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"I don’t think my profile is too bad and I do have verifications from couples I have met, but it is becoming annoying when you write a decent length message (not one liners) to couples and you don’t even get a reply. Hopefully I will get some decent responses soon, well I live in hope anyway lol" Totally agree, not all single guys are wasters, I've lost count of the number of couples and single girls I've written to, decent message, pics of me (not cock shots!) ,and not even so much as thanks but no thanks, some even block without reason. I think Fab on the whole has lost some manners and direction on the whole | |||
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"Well when couples keep letting you down i suppose you loose heart" This. | |||
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"I don’t think my profile is too bad and I do have verifications from couples I have met, but it is becoming annoying when you write a decent length message (not one liners) to couples and you don’t even get a reply. Hopefully I will get some decent responses soon, well I live in hope anyway lol Totally agree, not all single guys are wasters, I've lost count of the number of couples and single girls I've written to, decent message, pics of me (not cock shots!) ,and not even so much as thanks but no thanks, some even block without reason. I think Fab on the whole has lost some manners and direction on the whole " and this | |||
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" Tell us what you want to hear. " Probably what they don't want to hear is a guy just telling them what he thinks they want to hear. Be honest with what you say, that way you will find people that want the same as you do. | |||
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"I hardly contact couples because quite a lot of them state on their profiles that they aren't looking for single guys. To be honest a lot say they'll find single guys they are interested in and a few have contacted me and it's been great so far. " | |||
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"We are pretty new to it all but Mrs has been on before and we just cant find a guy to suit us. We took a break over the holidays and have come back to have another go but have had similar experiences to you all so far. Either zero effort, want to meet this second or have even tried to flirt with Mrs alone. It's a shame as it's something we both want to try!" hi both I am over your age limit but but would be happy to join you for you to experience this wonderful thing happy to chat about it and take things as slow as you want xxx | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? I would happily chat with you but am blocked as I am over your age limit Tell us what you want to hear. Something that shows you have read our profile, find us interesting and that reflects who you are and what you want. "Hi" or "Meet tonight?" doesnt do that. We try our best to reply to all the messages we get but since we get a lot of those it makes it super hard to get a conversation going." | |||
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" hi both I am over your age limit but but would be happy to join you for you to experience this wonderful thing happy to chat about it and take things as slow as you want xxx" I know I am over your age limit but ....... I know you are looking for ....... but ....... These are the sort of messages people.get all the time and the senders wonder why they don't get a reply! | |||
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" hi both I am over your age limit but but would be happy to join you for you to experience this wonderful thing happy to chat about it and take things as slow as you want xxx I know I am over your age limit but ....... I know you are looking for ....... but ....... These are the sort of messages people.get all the time and the senders wonder why they don't get a reply!" . ^^^^^^ this | |||
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" hi both I am over your age limit but but would be happy to join you for you to experience this wonderful thing happy to chat about it and take things as slow as you want xxx I know I am over your age limit but ....... I know you are looking for ....... but ....... These are the sort of messages people.get all the time and the senders wonder why they don't get a reply!" You get people over the age of 99 messaging you? | |||
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" You get people over the age of 99 messaging you? " What do you think? | |||
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"The only problem I see is most couples don't wantvto meet men. So I guess the ones who do kind of drown out" It is true that most couples on here are not interested in single guys so there is no point wasting time and effort on them. However there are still quite a lot that will, so best to concentrate the effort there. A few tips. 1. Yes, read the profile. 2. Make sure that you are at least in their area. That doesn't mean just relying on "Who's Near" from our experience it is usually wrong. 3. Take note of what they want. For example: they might say no beards but you are a full on hipster, or trimmed/shaved pubes only and you've got a bush like the Black Forest. 4. Take note of where they like to meet. No point messaging someone who can't accom when you can't either. And if a couple say clubs only they usually mean it. 5. Smokers (yes there are some of us left LOL) There is no point messaging a couple who are smokers when your profile says "won't meet smokers" It's one of the first things we look at and (for us) usually leads to a good message being binned. 6. Put something into your message that shows you have read the profile. I don't mean one of these silly keyword things that you see on some profiles but say something about what they want that you can provide (no not just a cock) A good message for us would read something like: Hi just read your profile and like you I also like to meet in clubs (that proves to us that they have at least read some of it) I'm just down the road from you in XYZ and wondered if you had any plans for this week? (proves that they know where we are) Anything on those lines will always get a favourable response even if it doesn't end up as a meet. The messages that will get either deleted or an unfavourable response will go something like: Fancy meeting for a drink and see how it goes? (No we say clearly on the profile that we don't) I'm in your area and have a couple of hours free this afternoon, fancy a meet? (answer as above) I'm in Gran Canary, Tenerife, Lanzarote, or the Algarve and who's near says you are 5km from me. (We are not and it just proves again that you haven't read the profile) Many guys post threads asking what is the secret to getting meets? It's simple. Read the profile and tailor your message accordingly. It won't work every time but it will really give your chances a huge boost. | |||
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"The only problem I see is most couples don't wantvto meet men. So I guess the ones who do kind of drown out It is true that most couples on here are not interested in single guys so there is no point wasting time and effort on them. However there are still quite a lot that will, so best to concentrate the effort there. A few tips. 1. Yes, read the profile. 2. Make sure that you are at least in their area. That doesn't mean just relying on "Who's Near" from our experience it is usually wrong. 3. Take note of what they want. For example: they might say no beards but you are a full on hipster, or trimmed/shaved pubes only and you've got a bush like the Black Forest. 4. Take note of where they like to meet. No point messaging someone who can't accom when you can't either. And if a couple say clubs only they usually mean it. 5. Smokers (yes there are some of us left LOL) There is no point messaging a couple who are smokers when your profile says "won't meet smokers" It's one of the first things we look at and (for us) usually leads to a good message being binned. 6. Put something into your message that shows you have read the profile. I don't mean one of these silly keyword things that you see on some profiles but say something about what they want that you can provide (no not just a cock) A good message for us would read something like: Hi just read your profile and like you I also like to meet in clubs (that proves to us that they have at least read some of it) I'm just down the road from you in XYZ and wondered if you had any plans for this week? (proves that they know where we are) Anything on those lines will always get a favourable response even if it doesn't end up as a meet. The messages that will get either deleted or an unfavourable response will go something like: Fancy meeting for a drink and see how it goes? (No we say clearly on the profile that we don't) I'm in your area and have a couple of hours free this afternoon, fancy a meet? (answer as above) I'm in Gran Canary, Tenerife, Lanzarote, or the Algarve and who's near says you are 5km from me. (We are not and it just proves again that you haven't read the profile) Many guys post threads asking what is the secret to getting meets? It's simple. Read the profile and tailor your message accordingly. It won't work every time but it will really give your chances a huge boost. " ^^^ this | |||
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"There are a few couples near me that are looking for single guys. I message them, but they never respond. I start with saying I love the hot pix, then small talk about plans for the weekend or something. Get nothing. " For us personally they are the sort of messages we ignore. We aren't really looking for small talk and that combined with a compliment on our pics, whilst appreciated, just feels like a copy and paste style thing sent to every couple. We get its difficult when profiles have hardly any info though. For us, we have explained our boundaries with couples and guys. We want an opening message to reference those and how they tie in with what you are looking for. It tells us you have read it and contacted us because you think we may all match up. Not just because you like Mrs pics and just want to get your end away. | |||
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"There are a few couples near me that are looking for single guys. I message them, but they never respond. I start with saying I love the hot pix, then small talk about plans for the weekend or something. Get nothing. For us personally they are the sort of messages we ignore. We aren't really looking for small talk and that combined with a compliment on our pics, whilst appreciated, just feels like a copy and paste style thing sent to every couple. We get its difficult when profiles have hardly any info though. For us, we have explained our boundaries with couples and guys. We want an opening message to reference those and how they tie in with what you are looking for. It tells us you have read it and contacted us because you think we may all match up. Not just because you like Mrs pics and just want to get your end away." That’s actually really helpful. I’ve kind of done the same thing and I thought I was being polite. Thanks. | |||
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"There are a few couples near me that are looking for single guys. I message them, but they never respond. I start with saying I love the hot pix, then small talk about plans for the weekend or something. Get nothing. " Sadly that is quite common on here. A way to out some of the wrong ones is to look at the veri's. If they have none or just an odd one it is possible that the male half is just a dreamer who would like to do something but the Mrs isn't interested Maybe he shows your pic to the Mrs and she just doesn't fancy you, but in that case at least a no thanks should be forthcoming. All I can say is that if you are ever in our area and fancy going to a club we would be happy to try to arrange something. | |||
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"There are a few couples near me that are looking for single guys. I message them, but they never respond. I start with saying I love the hot pix, then small talk about plans for the weekend or something. Get nothing. For us personally they are the sort of messages we ignore. We aren't really looking for small talk and that combined with a compliment on our pics, whilst appreciated, just feels like a copy and paste style thing sent to every couple. We get its difficult when profiles have hardly any info though. For us, we have explained our boundaries with couples and guys. We want an opening message to reference those and how they tie in with what you are looking for. It tells us you have read it and contacted us because you think we may all match up. Not just because you like Mrs pics and just want to get your end away." Out of interest how do you like to be approached as when I dm couples I always say about there pictures as that is what attracts me to them. | |||
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"The only problem I see is most couples don't wantvto meet men. So I guess the ones who do kind of drown out It is true that most couples on here are not interested in single guys so there is no point wasting time and effort on them. However there are still quite a lot that will, so best to concentrate the effort there. A few tips. 1. Yes, read the profile. 2. Make sure that you are at least in their area. That doesn't mean just relying on "Who's Near" from our experience it is usually wrong. 3. Take note of what they want. For example: they might say no beards but you are a full on hipster, or trimmed/shaved pubes only and you've got a bush like the Black Forest. 4. Take note of where they like to meet. No point messaging someone who can't accom when you can't either. And if a couple say clubs only they usually mean it. 5. Smokers (yes there are some of us left LOL) There is no point messaging a couple who are smokers when your profile says "won't meet smokers" It's one of the first things we look at and (for us) usually leads to a good message being binned. 6. Put something into your message that shows you have read the profile. I don't mean one of these silly keyword things that you see on some profiles but say something about what they want that you can provide (no not just a cock) A good message for us would read something like: Hi just read your profile and like you I also like to meet in clubs (that proves to us that they have at least read some of it) I'm just down the road from you in XYZ and wondered if you had any plans for this week? (proves that they know where we are) Anything on those lines will always get a favourable response even if it doesn't end up as a meet. The messages that will get either deleted or an unfavourable response will go something like: Fancy meeting for a drink and see how it goes? (No we say clearly on the profile that we don't) I'm in your area and have a couple of hours free this afternoon, fancy a meet? (answer as above) I'm in Gran Canary, Tenerife, Lanzarote, or the Algarve and who's near says you are 5km from me. (We are not and it just proves again that you haven't read the profile) Many guys post threads asking what is the secret to getting meets? It's simple. Read the profile and tailor your message accordingly. It won't work every time but it will really give your chances a huge boost. " I'm not one for wasting my day reading profiles and sending messages. I don't even bother | |||
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"There are a few couples near me that are looking for single guys. I message them, but they never respond. I start with saying I love the hot pix, then small talk about plans for the weekend or something. Get nothing. For us personally they are the sort of messages we ignore. We aren't really looking for small talk and that combined with a compliment on our pics, whilst appreciated, just feels like a copy and paste style thing sent to every couple. We get its difficult when profiles have hardly any info though. For us, we have explained our boundaries with couples and guys. We want an opening message to reference those and how they tie in with what you are looking for. It tells us you have read it and contacted us because you think we may all match up. Not just because you like Mrs pics and just want to get your end away. Out of interest how do you like to be approached as when I dm couples I always say about there pictures as that is what attracts me to them. " Complimenting the pics is obviously fine and something we are sure most would welcome. For us it's not what is going to make us interested in you though. With single guys we are primarily looking to be watched. We explain that in our profile so a guy introducing himself and telling us he has a voyeurism kink gets our interest as it shows he's read our profile and is messaging because we match up on what we are looking for. | |||
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"One problem is that the once great idea of the site being free is now lost to the dreamers and wasters. Its to easy for them to join and send annoying messages that turn genuine people off. This then affects others. I will always try to send a nice message never a crude one but still get met with the delete button or block. This tends to make you not want to bother putting together a decent thought out message. I dont blame couples for thier actions as they must get inundated with rubbish. I have met a few couoke who put no men on the profile in order to try and limit the number contacting. However many people can be downwrite rude tho and even as a site supporter for many years there seems little support. Maybe its time to start charging to join this may deter the wasters. Or maybe an addition on the site "fabswingers elite" for long standing and genuine members. ? Just a thought. " Totally agree on a fee. It shouldn't be much. Even if you said only site supporters could send message it would probably cut about 30% of the fantasists out. | |||
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"There are a few couples near me that are looking for single guys. I message them, but they never respond. I start with saying I love the hot pix, then small talk about plans for the weekend or something. Get nothing. For us personally they are the sort of messages we ignore. We aren't really looking for small talk and that combined with a compliment on our pics, whilst appreciated, just feels like a copy and paste style thing sent to every couple. We get its difficult when profiles have hardly any info though. For us, we have explained our boundaries with couples and guys. We want an opening message to reference those and how they tie in with what you are looking for. It tells us you have read it and contacted us because you think we may all match up. Not just because you like Mrs pics and just want to get your end away. Out of interest how do you like to be approached as when I dm couples I always say about there pictures as that is what attracts me to them. Complimenting the pics is obviously fine and something we are sure most would welcome. For us it's not what is going to make us interested in you though. With single guys we are primarily looking to be watched. We explain that in our profile so a guy introducing himself and telling us he has a voyeurism kink gets our interest as it shows he's read our profile and is messaging because we match up on what we are looking for." Ok thanks. Can’t beat a bit of watching mmm. I am in to all kinds of fun. I always keep my dm clean so not to look like I am just in to dirty talk. That also adds to the fun but not in a first dm | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? " Our experience is exactly this! Site is a waste of time. | |||
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"Really feel your pain here. I'm deleting without reading message after message because guys haven't bothered to read our profile!! Some of them are so hot too! And we love playing with guys!! I'm really not going to tar all the guys on here with the same brush as I know full well there are some real stars but the amount of morons who can't do the bare minimum of reading the profile is staggering " Out of interest if you haven’t read them what do you know is wrong or missed out in the dm. Myself your profile is exactly what I would look for in a couple. | |||
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"There are a few couples near me that are looking for single guys. I message them, but they never respond. I start with saying I love the hot pix, then small talk about plans for the weekend or something. Get nothing. For us personally they are the sort of messages we ignore. We aren't really looking for small talk and that combined with a compliment on our pics, whilst appreciated, just feels like a copy and paste style thing sent to every couple. We get its difficult when profiles have hardly any info though. For us, we have explained our boundaries with couples and guys. We want an opening message to reference those and how they tie in with what you are looking for. It tells us you have read it and contacted us because you think we may all match up. Not just because you like Mrs pics and just want to get your end away. Out of interest how do you like to be approached as when I dm couples I always say about there pictures as that is what attracts me to them. " It isn't really that black and white. If someone compliments our pics we always try to say at least a thank you (although when we get a lot of messages one or two can get missed) Being outside of the UK means the biggest problem we have is location. A message that acknowledges where we are and states that they are local to us (or visiting our area) will always get an answer even if just a no thanks. Also if it is a message that interests us we will always check out the profile of the sender. | |||
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"We gave up meeting single guys from here a while ago. It's easier to go to a club and hope there are some good guys there. If not at least we have a good time " What stopped you meeting single guys. You are local to myself and would love to meet you. | |||
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"Really feel your pain here. I'm deleting without reading message after message because guys haven't bothered to read our profile!! Some of them are so hot too! And we love playing with guys!! I'm really not going to tar all the guys on here with the same brush as I know full well there are some real stars but the amount of morons who can't do the bare minimum of reading the profile is staggering Out of interest if you haven’t read them what do you know is wrong or missed out in the dm. Myself your profile is exactly what I would look for in a couple. " If they've read what we are looking for they will know how not to get deleted unread | |||
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"Really feel your pain here. I'm deleting without reading message after message because guys haven't bothered to read our profile!! Some of them are so hot too! And we love playing with guys!! I'm really not going to tar all the guys on here with the same brush as I know full well there are some real stars but the amount of morons who can't do the bare minimum of reading the profile is staggering Out of interest if you haven’t read them what do you know is wrong or missed out in the dm. Myself your profile is exactly what I would look for in a couple. If they've read what we are looking for they will know how not to get deleted unread" So heading sherbet lemon and I am at the club Friday in the heading is the only thing I would put in the heading not to get a unread delete. This is all I can see in your profile that would not get a delete or would I be miss understanding your profile. | |||
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"Really feel your pain here. I'm deleting without reading message after message because guys haven't bothered to read our profile!! Some of them are so hot too! And we love playing with guys!! I'm really not going to tar all the guys on here with the same brush as I know full well there are some real stars but the amount of morons who can't do the bare minimum of reading the profile is staggering Out of interest if you haven’t read them what do you know is wrong or missed out in the dm. Myself your profile is exactly what I would look for in a couple. If they've read what we are looking for they will know how not to get deleted unread So heading sherbet lemon and I am at the club Friday in the heading is the only thing I would put in the heading not to get a unread delete. This is all I can see in your profile that would not get a delete or would I be miss understanding your profile. " Pretty much that yeah. Can also see if there's a pic attached which is another thing we've asked for so would potentially delete any message without a paperclip icon. A lot of people use that trick to out people using the scattergun approach which is why it pays to read the profile! | |||
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"Really feel your pain here. I'm deleting without reading message after message because guys haven't bothered to read our profile!! Some of them are so hot too! And we love playing with guys!! I'm really not going to tar all the guys on here with the same brush as I know full well there are some real stars but the amount of morons who can't do the bare minimum of reading the profile is staggering Out of interest if you haven’t read them what do you know is wrong or missed out in the dm. Myself your profile is exactly what I would look for in a couple. If they've read what we are looking for they will know how not to get deleted unread So heading sherbet lemon and I am at the club Friday in the heading is the only thing I would put in the heading not to get a unread delete. This is all I can see in your profile that would not get a delete or would I be miss understanding your profile. Pretty much that yeah. Can also see if there's a pic attached which is another thing we've asked for so would potentially delete any message without a paperclip icon. A lot of people use that trick to out people using the scattergun approach which is why it pays to read the profile! " Ok cool. Thanks for taking the time to reply. | |||
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"Really feel your pain here. I'm deleting without reading message after message because guys haven't bothered to read our profile!! Some of them are so hot too! And we love playing with guys!! I'm really not going to tar all the guys on here with the same brush as I know full well there are some real stars but the amount of morons who can't do the bare minimum of reading the profile is staggering Out of interest if you haven’t read them what do you know is wrong or missed out in the dm. Myself your profile is exactly what I would look for in a couple. If they've read what we are looking for they will know how not to get deleted unread So heading sherbet lemon and I am at the club Friday in the heading is the only thing I would put in the heading not to get a unread delete. This is all I can see in your profile that would not get a delete or would I be miss understanding your profile. Pretty much that yeah. Can also see if there's a pic attached which is another thing we've asked for so would potentially delete any message without a paperclip icon. A lot of people use that trick to out people using the scattergun approach which is why it pays to read the profile! Ok cool. Thanks for taking the time to reply. " No problem! The thing is though, I've seen people who are clearly wise to this trick and use the right heading but their message shows they clearly haven't actually considered if they are a good fit for us. They've probably skim read to find the "magic password". I'll open the message and read it but definitely won't reply | |||
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"See this is exactly where most go wrong,and not every cple have and expect same so the need to read a profile before contact is a must,I the male organise all our single male meets,we don't and won't pass phone numbers out,as up-to-date veris back up we are real,the reason for not passing phone numbers is u leave itself wide open to being directly pestered at all times of day or night and with modern phones now it links all contacts to media sites like facebook so then u start getting likes on pics that then leads to a pm from the guy to the female half if u met and played,we know not all men are like this but some men go to long lengths to stalk and show signs of being desperate in their messages which kills it,we have had men suddenly appear at our club from miles away making it clear they have monitored our activity,the message box on here is all that's needed and guys remember u could be chatting to the male half so don't cut ur throat with the I'm going to do this and that,a cple are both in this for the fun,if ur gone blank the guy in chat just to wet ur dick then the male half will deleat,its not a dating site to offer meals,holidays are to show off ur BMW ,its fun arranged and sorted,no PMS asking to meet alone or to escort to clubs lol." Male half here - This is the best post I've read on this subject so far, can definitely relate to all of the above as all those scenarios have happened to us in the past. | |||
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"The only problem I see is most couples don't wantvto meet men. So I guess the ones who do kind of drown out It is true that most couples on here are not interested in single guys so there is no point wasting time and effort on them. However there are still quite a lot that will, so best to concentrate the effort there. A few tips. 1. Yes, read the profile. 2. Make sure that you are at least in their area. That doesn't mean just relying on "Who's Near" from our experience it is usually wrong. 3. Take note of what they want. For example: they might say no beards but you are a full on hipster, or trimmed/shaved pubes only and you've got a bush like the Black Forest. 4. Take note of where they like to meet. No point messaging someone who can't accom when you can't either. And if a couple say clubs only they usually mean it. 5. Smokers (yes there are some of us left LOL) There is no point messaging a couple who are smokers when your profile says "won't meet smokers" It's one of the first things we look at and (for us) usually leads to a good message being binned. 6. Put something into your message that shows you have read the profile. I don't mean one of these silly keyword things that you see on some profiles but say something about what they want that you can provide (no not just a cock) A good message for us would read something like: Hi just read your profile and like you I also like to meet in clubs (that proves to us that they have at least read some of it) I'm just down the road from you in XYZ and wondered if you had any plans for this week? (proves that they know where we are) Anything on those lines will always get a favourable response even if it doesn't end up as a meet. The messages that will get either deleted or an unfavourable response will go something like: Fancy meeting for a drink and see how it goes? (No we say clearly on the profile that we don't) I'm in your area and have a couple of hours free this afternoon, fancy a meet? (answer as above) I'm in Gran Canary, Tenerife, Lanzarote, or the Algarve and who's near says you are 5km from me. (We are not and it just proves again that you haven't read the profile) Many guys post threads asking what is the secret to getting meets? It's simple. Read the profile and tailor your message accordingly. It won't work every time but it will really give your chances a huge boost. I'm not one for wasting my day reading profiles and sending messages. I don't even bother" As Einstein said: "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" | |||
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"The crux of the problem when communicating with a couple as a single male is establishing that the female half of the couple exists.... What I have found in my experience is that 99.9% of couples that contact me are male lead... I in turn will send a face pic and phone number... not because I’m desperate.. But to show the couple I am a real person and can verify by Facetime before any talk of a meeting can occur.... This in turn will have me labeled as pushy....... I understand communication is the key to a successful meeting but couples should try to make single males comfortable also.... ESTABLISHING the female half of a couple should be any couples first priority because without the female half there is no fun..... So effort goes both ways....... " Do you use this approach even if they have recent verifications? I can understand the wariness if there's no visible or recent verifications (even couples get messages from singles masquerading as a couple), but if the couple has recent verifications it's generally clear both of them are real | |||
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"And the old “i cant send face pics because.....” honestly do guys really think people will turn up and meet a complete stranger without even knowing what they look like, so so many sad reasons to question whether decent and genuine exist any more, we know they do but they are in a very very small minority, needle and haystack come to mind" I was on previously as a couple. We had advertised for a gangbang to which we received a message from a guy my then partner didnt find attractive. When we sent a polite reply stating "sorry, you aren't her type" he replied with "but it's a gangbang, it doesn't matter"! I did take the time to craft an articulate response explaining that just because it's a gangbang it doesn't mean she'll fuck anything that moves. Bellend! | |||
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"That’s the problem I think. People come into swinging thinking it’s no holds barred sex. If anything swinging has made us more selective with who we play with. Only the best stand a chance because that’s the ground couples and women can take. " Too many guys have a shit attitude. Lack of respect. | |||
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"We only get a few approaches from singles guys. They are almost always polite. We’ve never had abuse. Generally the messages are short and bland and impersonal. The ones that make an effort to write something personal we always try to reply to, and usually we get a polite response back. Right now we are chatting to a really lovely guy, he’s funny and articulate and very polite. Ailsa is very picky. But this guy she likes. Our experience of single guys seems to be very different from most other couples and single ladies. I’ve said Mthis before in the forums. I have no idea why. " Exactly the same as this. | |||
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"The crux of the problem when communicating with a couple as a single male is establishing that the female half of the couple exists.... What I have found in my experience is that 99.9% of couples that contact me are male lead... I in turn will send a face pic and phone number... not because I’m desperate.. But to show the couple I am a real person and can verify by Facetime before any talk of a meeting can occur.... This in turn will have me labeled as pushy....... I understand communication is the key to a successful meeting but couples should try to make single males comfortable also.... ESTABLISHING the female half of a couple should be any couples first priority because without the female half there is no fun..... So effort goes both ways....... Do you use this approach even if they have recent verifications? I can understand the wariness if there's no visible or recent verifications (even couples get messages from singles masquerading as a couple), but if the couple has recent verifications it's generally clear both of them are real " Yes I do...... I have a inbox of 100 messages of “ We are planning a trip to NYC and my wife would love to play with you , let’s chat and exchange pics “ They all have recent verifications and some even move their location to NYC...... Out of the 100’s of emails I received, my only verification called me from his or the hotel phone.... put this his wife on .... She said “ Yes we are a couple “ I said “ thank you “ We then proceeded to plan the meeting back on Fab email... The point I’m trying to make to all couples is that.... How can you realistically expect a guy to turn up to a social or sex meeting without building some trust on your end...... If you can’t trust me with the male half of the couples cell number..... How can you trust me with your address to your home? How can you trust me with your wife? | |||
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"I always read the profiles of females / couples I'm interested in before sending a message however I receive very few responses. Maybe there just isn’t an attraction, no matter what the message says if the missus doesn’t fancy them it won’t any further Actually, this bares some truth to " It would be nice(r) to get a polite no thanks rather than no response at all | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? " I think they've come to this site with the idea they'd get sex on a plate not realizing they're coming from outside into the dynamic of a loving couple and think they don't have to make the effort.... Shame really. | |||
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"I feel this is a definate two way issue. Too mNy couples also don't take the time to meet the man rather than the assumptive single male. There are strange folk out there of all kinds and it is hard to work who is more us and who are more then. Very frustrating especially if you have put in effort previously. As a result I have trimmed my profile so people don't make too many assumptions How that makes sense" It would have made more sense if I had actually checked the spelling.. Hopefully you got the gist | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? I think they've come to this site with the idea they'd get sex on a plate not realizing they're coming from outside into the dynamic of a loving couple and think they don't have to make the effort.... Shame really." I think if you handcrafted 100s of messages and didn't get a response back you'll stop writing detailed handcrafted messages. Like someone mentioned above, some people are OK with a "hi, I'm also into xyz and I live near you. Fancy meeting up for a, drink sometime?" Let's be honest a lot of the selection criteria is looks anyway. We might all just be contestants on ITV's Naked Attraction. The decision is made once the middle part or the chest is revealed | |||
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"Single guys that are genuinely single are normally single for a reason (looks, attitude, age) . the best guys to meet are ones that are in couples or potentially ones that have a secret partner (fab single) . Guys can’t win however they message, if you send a long detailed message we tend to just think your desperate and trying too hard and if you send a few words we think that you’ve sent the same message to everyone. We only meet guys now in here that I’ve seen photos of in new photos or top photos that I like and then will message and see how they act. Or we meet guys in nightclubs. " I admire your honesty | |||
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"I always read the profiles of females / couples I'm interested in before sending a message however I receive very few responses. Maybe there just isn’t an attraction, no matter what the message says if the missus doesn’t fancy them it won’t any further Actually, this bares some truth to It would be nice(r) to get a polite no thanks rather than no response at all But why? The end result is still the same, would having “No thanks” in writing make you feel less rejected? Remember you messaged them; do you reply to every piece of junk mail you receive through your letterbox?" No but I've taken the time to construct a detailed message of why I think I may be suitable it would be nice to receive any response. Now if the person I send my messages to doesn't delete my message and block me I take it as a success | |||
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"Is it just us or are you guys finding that nobody puts any effort anymore, either on they're profile or in the messages they send? Maybe its just us but its becoming increasingly harder to find anyone decent that just thinks, “fancy a fuck” is going to get us interested? " if that's the only message those guys can come up then why waste your time.. most guys that get attention on here have solid profiles .. face pics and send messages with respect | |||
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"Sadly when we ask all we get is single men looking for sex and not single swinging males. The difference between the two is vast " Sadly the single.male swingers are few and far between on this site. We find socials are the best place to find them. | |||
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"Sadly when we ask all we get is single men looking for sex and not single swinging males. The difference between the two is vast Sadly the single.male swingers are few and far between on this site. We find socials are the best place to find them. " I think a lot of the rude guys are just not swinging, It's few drinks and take the piss , I have had girls playing the same game , True swingers are polite as I always am , even if it's a no | |||
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"Sadly when we ask all we get is single men looking for sex and not single swinging males. The difference between the two is vast Sadly the single.male swingers are few and far between on this site. We find socials are the best place to find them. I think a lot of the rude guys are just not swinging, It's few drinks and take the piss , I have had girls playing the same game , True swingers are polite as I always am , even if it's a no " True I've seen a fair few who act up on here and also at some Club events. It seems they don't understand the concept of swinging. I've had both single women and couples who can be just as bad though, thinking because they offer me a fuck that I'll drop whatever I'm doing and go meet them! Plain disrespectful. | |||
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"It's about profiles too. If we get a message that doesn't have much effort put into it and then we check the profile to find no effort has been made with that either... Its a definite no. Guys say there's no point in writing detailed messages as most get ignored but that doesn't excuse an empty profile. It just makes us think you will make no effort during a meet and that's no what we want if we are welcoming you into our relationship temporarily. " Or no effort to turn up at all. | |||
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