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"I've heard that comment to from single guys, it's really hypocritical" Probably more do do with why they're on here in the first place - i.e. can't get a partner themselves to swing with or find single girls interested in meeting them alone either - so see couples as a means to an end! Or am I being cynical? Then there's those of us who just enjoy our fun with more than one person at once and appreciate couples who think likewise! | |||
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"Just read that back not sure if that reads right. What I meant was hate it when women on the site are made out to be nothing more than dirty piece's of meat to be abused. Not that this had anything to do with our earlier opening post. In fact don't even know how I got here in the first place hahahaha " no your right, some men think that way, even if they dont say it. | |||
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"I think most cpls on here, including us just enjoy a bit of fun! It does make our bond more special and there's no insecurities. If ppl are not secure enough in a relationship then its a bad place to be and will cause more trouble in the long run. Men who say those comments discust me, its like saying the person they are about to meet/fuck is worthless and how dare they judge someone!! The majority of people on here are so lovely yet it only takes one person to paint everyone with the same brush. Xx " Could not agree more xxxxx | |||
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"In all fairness though that when they have only ever played as a single, they singularly fail to grasp the viewpoint that couples have, and in a way it's understandable from their lack of experience like that. A lot still have that bridge to cross. Wolf" Hmm that is an interesting thought, never thought about it like that. Just kind of made us think that perhaps there is a bit of double standards going on. | |||
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"Heard countless single males say this in clubs............then they wonder why we and others won't shag them " actually was about to say exactly the same thing...... it is something that i have heard other single blokes say and it doesn't surprise me its an awkward subject because some see swinging as a stop gap, some see it as oppotunism... and some see it as a double standard.... it doesn't sit well with me because it to me personally doesn't sit well with how i look at, and understanding swinging... but i know i don't look at swinging the same way as a lot of single guys just from the difference in how i am and they are in club atmospheres... | |||
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"Heard countless single males say this in clubs............then they wonder why we and others won't shag them " Yes, it seems quite a common way of thinking, we've seen similar comments several times on the forums. Yet another reason why we don't meet single guys! XXXX | |||
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"Heard countless single males say this in clubs............then they wonder why we and others won't shag them " Too many single men see swinging as an 'easy' shag and that swinging women are 'easy meat' and too many use clubs because they assume that they pay their money and women who go must want to shag anything. Its one of the reasons why we won't knowingly play with marrieds........ they aren't swingers....... too many are just looking for an easy lay and assume that swingers are the easiest of the easy. | |||
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"I've heard that comment to from single guys, it's really hypocritical Probably more do do with why they're on here in the first place - i.e. can't get a partner themselves to swing with or find single girls interested in meeting them alone either - so see couples as a means to an end! Or am I being cynical? Then there's those of us who just enjoy our fun with more than one person at once and appreciate couples who think likewise! " | |||
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" Hmm that is an interesting thought, never thought about it like that. Just kind of made us think that perhaps there is a bit of double standards going on. " I think single people sometimes confuse the reasons that couples actually do engage in swinging, that there is nothing dysfunctional, no gap to fill.. just the need for an extra body to be present to heighten the experience, and that extra body can be interpreted from three standpoints (ok, so more with another couple... but in this instance...) Also that the partner hasn't derated their other half to slutdom, and that it's no concession but a liberty for both... as put on another post very recently - knowing that you are your other partner's world in that they come right back to you each and every time. Finally (I'll shut up in a mo ) that it's no loss of stature to share a partner in any way you see fit. Those entering from a solely single viewpoint only see a perceived loss or damage hence wouldn't be prepared to 'share their bird out' and risk it - so maybe it's just fear. The best cure for fear is experience, but the two get locked up in quite a knot. Wolf | |||
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"I think most cpls on here, including us just enjoy a bit of fun! It does make our bond more special and there's no insecurities. If ppl are not secure enough in a relationship then its a bad place to be and will cause more trouble in the long run. Men who say those comments discust me, its like saying the person they are about to meet/fuck is worthless and how dare they judge someone!! The majority of people on here are so lovely yet it only takes one person to paint everyone with the same brush. Xx Hence looking for couples in long loving relationship... " | |||
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" Hmm that is an interesting thought, never thought about it like that. Just kind of made us think that perhaps there is a bit of double standards going on. I think single people sometimes confuse the reasons that couples actually do engage in swinging, that there is nothing dysfunctional, no gap to fill.. just the need for an extra body to be present to heighten the experience, and that extra body can be interpreted from three standpoints (ok, so more with another couple... but in this instance...) Also that the partner hasn't derated their other half to slutdom, and that it's no concession but a liberty for both... as put on another post very recently - knowing that you are your other partner's world in that they come right back to you each and every time. Finally (I'll shut up in a mo ) that it's no loss of stature to share a partner in any way you see fit. Those entering from a solely single viewpoint only see a perceived loss or damage hence wouldn't be prepared to 'share their bird out' and risk it - so maybe it's just fear. The best cure for fear is experience, but the two get locked up in quite a knot. I like it! Wolf" | |||
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" Hmm that is an interesting thought, never thought about it like that. Just kind of made us think that perhaps there is a bit of double standards going on. I think single people sometimes confuse the reasons that couples actually do engage in swinging, that there is nothing dysfunctional, no gap to fill.. just the need for an extra body to be present to heighten the experience, and that extra body can be interpreted from three standpoints (ok, so more with another couple... but in this instance...) Also that the partner hasn't derated their other half to slutdom, and that it's no concession but a liberty for both... as put on another post very recently - knowing that you are your other partner's world in that they come right back to you each and every time. Finally (I'll shut up in a mo ) that it's no loss of stature to share a partner in any way you see fit. Those entering from a solely single viewpoint only see a perceived loss or damage hence wouldn't be prepared to 'share their bird out' and risk it - so maybe it's just fear. The best cure for fear is experience, but the two get locked up in quite a knot. Wolf" Here Here.... | |||
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"Heard countless single males say this in clubs............then they wonder why we and others won't shag them actually was about to say exactly the same thing...... it is something that i have heard other single blokes say and it doesn't surprise me its an awkward subject because some see swinging as a stop gap, some see it as oppotunism... and some see it as a double standard.... it doesn't sit well with me because it to me personally doesn't sit well with how i look at, and understanding swinging... but i know i don't look at swinging the same way as a lot of single guys just from the difference in how i am and they are in club atmospheres..." you and a couple of other male and female friends are the reason i believe singles can be swingers, its a state of mind, not a condition of who you are with...and there are couples who also fail to share that state of mind remember...i am sure we have all come across couples in clubs where one partner is being pushed into it to please the other. | |||
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" Hmm that is an interesting thought, never thought about it like that. Just kind of made us think that perhaps there is a bit of double standards going on. I think single people sometimes confuse the reasons that couples actually do engage in swinging, that there is nothing dysfunctional, no gap to fill.. just the need for an extra body to be present to heighten the experience, and that extra body can be interpreted from three standpoints (ok, so more with another couple... but in this instance...) Also that the partner hasn't derated their other half to slutdom, and that it's no concession but a liberty for both... as put on another post very recently - knowing that you are your other partner's world in that they come right back to you each and every time. Finally (I'll shut up in a mo ) that it's no loss of stature to share a partner in any way you see fit. Those entering from a solely single viewpoint only see a perceived loss or damage hence wouldn't be prepared to 'share their bird out' and risk it - so maybe it's just fear. The best cure for fear is experience, but the two get locked up in quite a knot. Wolf" | |||
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"personally i'd be ecstatic if my other half decided she wanted to join in with me and have 3sums 4sums and moresums but unfortunately she won't no matter how much i try i don't see how you can swing and join other people for 3sums but not expect to share your other half (if they wanted to)" Does she know you do it ? | |||
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"to be honest i dont think id be able to 'swing' with someone i really cared about, but then i dont meet couple so i dont feel i have double standards " Without sounding really nosey NN, you used to swing as a couple with your ex....... What's changed your mind about swinging with a partner? | |||
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"Heard countless single males say this in clubs............then they wonder why we and others won't shag them actually was about to say exactly the same thing...... it is something that i have heard other single blokes say and it doesn't surprise me its an awkward subject because some see swinging as a stop gap, some see it as oppotunism... and some see it as a double standard.... it doesn't sit well with me because it to me personally doesn't sit well with how i look at, and understanding swinging... but i know i don't look at swinging the same way as a lot of single guys just from the difference in how i am and they are in club atmospheres... you and a couple of other male and female friends are the reason i believe singles can be swingers, its a state of mind, not a condition of who you are with...and there are couples who also fail to share that state of mind remember...i am sure we have all come across couples in clubs where one partner is being pushed into it to please the other." | |||
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"I don't get why its such a no no for single people to admit that they might not feel comfortable swinging with a partner themselves. At the end of the day you do this to fulfill your fantasies and desires, not scrutinize other peoples. YOU have decided you want to share your partner with other people, be that single people or couples and at that moment in timea single person wants to join you. What does it matter if a few months down the line they meet someone and decide its not for them? Or is this some sort of loyalty scheme? You fucked my wife so when you get yourself a lady I get first dibs on fucking her" I think it's the implied lack of understanding of people in the scene. 'I'm happy to fuck your partner by pretending your not here' 'I'm here because you're a mug for sharing and I'll take what I want from her because she's an easy lay/slag' It would seem that a lot just do not have an understanding of what swinging is and what it's all about. It shows a huge lack of respect. A single that understands the scene, understands that there are two people in a couple not one. A couple understand they are inviting a single into their space to share their fun equally. In our opinion it doesn't matter if it is 3, 4 or more the best meets are those where everyone is as concerned with everyone else's enjoyment as their own. It's not what they are doing but the state of mind which they enter into the deal with. It's not right for a single guy to say 'I'd never share my partner with anyone. That is the wrong attitude. Now if you do meet someone that has no interest in swinging, you fall in love and decide to step out of the swinging world for them fair enough that's entirely different and respectful. It is the state of mind and attitude that is wrong. | |||
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"Its a bit one sided and a selfish attitude." Very selfish helping a couple fulfil a 3some fantasy haha | |||
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"to be honest i dont think id be able to 'swing' with someone i really cared about, but then i dont meet couple so i dont feel i have double standards Without sounding really nosey NN, you used to swing as a couple with your ex....... What's changed your mind about swinging with a partner?" hes my ex, i think that answers your question | |||
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"if i had a hot partner who was willing to swing with me. id be all for it. more couples and singles would take me seriously in a instant also. being a single is hard enough as it is. lol. GIVE ME A SWINGING PARTNER ANY DAY OF THE WEEK! AS SHARING IS CARING!" a swinging partner is different tho, swinging with someone you love isnt the same as having a woman to get more meets | |||
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"to be honest i dont think id be able to 'swing' with someone i really cared about, but then i dont meet couple so i dont feel i have double standards Without sounding really nosey NN, you used to swing as a couple with your ex....... What's changed your mind about swinging with a partner? hes my ex, i think that answers your question " | |||
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"I don't get why its such a no no for single people to admit that they might not feel comfortable swinging with a partner themselves. At the end of the day you do this to fulfill your fantasies and desires, not scrutinize other peoples. YOU have decided you want to share your partner with other people, be that single people or couples and at that moment in timea single person wants to join you. What does it matter if a few months down the line they meet someone and decide its not for them? Or is this some sort of loyalty scheme? You fucked my wife so when you get yourself a lady I get first dibs on fucking her" I understand what you are saying Evesham but for us, it's the pure hypocrisy of what they say....... It's like the club scenario..... I'll fuck your wife, but I'd be dammed if I'd ever bring MY wife to a place like this. They are being hypocritical as they are quite happy to use others as a means to an end but don't consider (or probably understand) what it means for those couples that do share. And, yes, I know, couples use single men as well........ I just don't want the singlies spouting their preachings about the kind of hobby that THEIR wife would be too good for or that they couldn't cope with! | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? Going back to the OP's original post, I don't think the guy said anything derogatory against women that swing, just that he wouldn't date a woman that did? I'm sure there are a lot of people that feel the same, that are happy to play with others that do but wouldn't want to share their partner with someone else. Maybe they don't think they'd be able to cope with the jealousy, but whatever the reason, hypocrisy or not, it's their choice? Can't understand why someone would find that insulting?" I agree with this. It's not everyone's fantasy to see their partner shagging someone else or being shagged by someone else. Swinging comes in many forms (no pun intended). | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? Going back to the OP's original post, I don't think the guy said anything derogatory against women that swing, just that he wouldn't date a woman that did? I'm sure there are a lot of people that feel the same, that are happy to play with others that do but wouldn't want to share their partner with someone else. Maybe they don't think they'd be able to cope with the jealousy, but whatever the reason, hypocrisy or not, it's their choice? Can't understand why someone would find that insulting? I agree with this. It's not everyone's fantasy to see their partner shagging someone else or being shagged by someone else. Swinging comes in many forms (no pun intended). " Seems we're in the minority though. Still can't see the insult? | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? .... Seems we're in the minority though. Still can't see the insult?" Can't see the insult? When a man joins a mf couple for a threesome and enjoys it and subsequently say 'he wouldn't let a girlfriend of his do that' is :- 1) insulting women generally in that it was in his power to'let' 'his' girlfriend do or not do anything. 2) insults the couple and this woman in particular in that what they have just done is somehow wrong. I trust this help illuminate the 'insult' for you. | |||
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"if i had a hot partner who was willing to swing with me. id be all for it. more couples and singles would take me seriously in a instant also. being a single is hard enough as it is. lol. GIVE ME A SWINGING PARTNER ANY DAY OF THE WEEK! AS SHARING IS CARING! a swinging partner is different tho, swinging with someone you love isnt the same as having a woman to get more meets " agreed, we have discussed this at great length, because of her wanting to see mehaving sex with someone else, but me not wanting to see her, and i have freely admitted that, with my ex, i wouldnt have minded doing the whole thing, and thats the reason she is my ex, because i simply didnt care enough for her for it to tear my heart out by seeing her, and hearing her, being rode by another bloke, whereas now, i just cant even imagine what it would be like to see Em doing it, and i wouldnt want to | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? Going back to the OP's original post, I don't think the guy said anything derogatory against women that swing, just that he wouldn't date a woman that did? I'm sure there are a lot of people that feel the same, that are happy to play with others that do but wouldn't want to share their partner with someone else. Maybe they don't think they'd be able to cope with the jealousy, but whatever the reason, hypocrisy or not, it's their choice? Can't understand why someone would find that insulting?" the single person in question may not have directly said anything derogatory about the swinging woman, but it was implied, imo. not wanting to date someone that swings suggests those that do are below his standard, or are less worthy as a partner than those that do. much like saying i dont mind ugly people, but wouldnt go out with one. | |||
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" not wanting to date someone that swings suggests those that do are below his standard, or are less worthy as a partner than those that do. " ....some of em just have their values upside down then don't they... maybe it's just they're scared that their female partner would enjoy things more than them... that couldn't possibly be allowed to happen could it... But hey-ho, whatever it is, they need to wise up Wolf | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? .... Seems we're in the minority though. Still can't see the insult? Can't see the insult? When a man joins a mf couple for a threesome and enjoys it and subsequently say 'he wouldn't let a girlfriend of his do that' is :- 1) insulting women generally in that it was in his power to'let' 'his' girlfriend do or not do anything. 2) insults the couple and this woman in particular in that what they have just done is somehow wrong. I trust this help illuminate the 'insult' for you. " I totally agree. Any woman who decides to share her body with anyone else other than her partner is affording others a privilege. As such, that lucky person should be more than grateful. My partner and I 'discovered' that we share basically the same aspirations sexually. If any man was to say that to us after being afford the privilege (not the right) of being pleasured by her, I'd f***him up!! | |||
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"I've also heard it from plenty of women.... "When I find a bloke..... we're not swinging cus I couldn't cope with watching him shag someone else" The men, in my opinion, don't say it through jealousy but through some neanderthal notion that swinging women are slags. I've heard it too many times to care....... As soon as a bloke says it...... We're gone!" as a single girl i was only into ffm as a couple i am only into ffm so haven't changed although he wants to do mmf its not for me so i said he can do on his own xxxx | |||
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"We have had single guys on here and other sites say that they wouldn't swing if they had a partner. Some have even said they wouldn't want their partner shagged by other people! One reason we stopped meeting singles for a while.. Have to say though, I don't find it any more distasteful than a couple of the women we have met at clubs, who are perhaps not women you would look at in Vanilla world, saying that they are only on swingers sites because they know there are Desperate men.. Their words, not mine! But what I do find amusing is that while they don't have partners, the men so far have all said they would like to get them involved if they did find a partner. In our experience, most have gone against that when they have met someone! (One even met his new wife on a swingers site!) " i know of a couple of ladies who meet single men "they could not get in real life" again there words not mine xxxx | |||
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"Of course it's not ok to lie. As long as they are honest before they get what they want that's fair enough. Our opinion is we just think it is the wrong approach to swinging. How do they know that their perspective partner maybe very keen on swinging and want to do it. It's a very hypocritical way of approaching things. Of course there is also their implied feelings towards the people they are playing with aswell. But each to their own." what is the right approach ??????????? as lets be honest about this i have come away from meets feeling unhappy as a single girl but i am sure the couple aren't worried they got what they wanted but very few couples think like about that | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? .... Seems we're in the minority though. Still can't see the insult? Can't see the insult? When a man joins a mf couple for a threesome and enjoys it and subsequently say 'he wouldn't let a girlfriend of his do that' is :- 1) insulting women generally in that it was in his power to'let' 'his' girlfriend do or not do anything. 2) insults the couple and this woman in particular in that what they have just done is somehow wrong. I trust this help illuminate the 'insult' for you. I totally agree. Any woman who decides to share her body with anyone else other than her partner is affording others a privilege. As such, that lucky person should be more than grateful. My partner and I 'discovered' that we share basically the same aspirations sexually. If any man was to say that to us after being afford the privilege (not the right) of being pleasured by her, I'd f***him up!! " lol, so, its nothing to do with the fact that you and your partner enjoy having sex with others? your just here to provide a 'privilege'? lol, if i get a meet, i hope it will be because the other party likes me, and wanted me to join in their fun! not because they felt they were handing out privileges!! | |||
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"We had a threesome with a guy and he made a comment, saying " I would never be with a girl who wants to swing." What's everyones opinion on this. " Hes a twat, why is he doing it then and what makes him think a girl would wanna be with him and allow him to swing | |||
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"I don't get why its such a no no for single people to admit that they might not feel comfortable swinging with a partner themselves. At the end of the day you do this to fulfill your fantasies and desires, not scrutinize other peoples. YOU have decided you want to share your partner with other people, be that single people or couples and at that moment in timea single person wants to join you. What does it matter if a few months down the line they meet someone and decide its not for them? Or is this some sort of loyalty scheme? You fucked my wife so when you get yourself a lady I get first dibs on fucking her I think it's the implied lack of understanding of people in the scene. 'I'm happy to fuck your partner by pretending your not here' 'I'm here because you're a mug for sharing and I'll take what I want from her because she's an easy lay/slag' It would seem that a lot just do not have an understanding of what swinging is and what it's all about. It shows a huge lack of respect. A single that understands the scene, understands that there are two people in a couple not one. A couple understand they are inviting a single into their space to share their fun equally. In our opinion it doesn't matter if it is 3, 4 or more the best meets are those where everyone is as concerned with everyone else's enjoyment as their own. It's not what they are doing but the state of mind which they enter into the deal with. It's not right for a single guy to say 'I'd never share my partner with anyone. That is the wrong attitude. Now if you do meet someone that has no interest in swinging, you fall in love and decide to step out of the swinging world for them fair enough that's entirely different and respectful. It is the state of mind and attitude that is wrong." Spot on. | |||
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"I've heard that comment to from single guys, it's really hypocritical" Happens throughout the swing world, hence soft swap etc. If you cant separate personal life for fantasy and fun/friends you shouldnt be in the scene...simples! | |||
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"I've also heard it from plenty of women.... "When I find a bloke..... we're not swinging cus I couldn't cope with watching him shag someone else" The men, in my opinion, don't say it through jealousy but through some neanderthal notion that swinging women are slags. I've heard it too many times to care....... As soon as a bloke says it...... We're gone! as a single girl i was only into ffm as a couple i am only into ffm so haven't changed although he wants to do mmf its not for me so i said he can do on his own xxxx" Well thats just total selfishness and full of issues, its fantasy, personal lives dont come into it, we have swung 3 yrs together and never had a disagreement, cos we trust each other and this in turn strengthens our relationship | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? .... Seems we're in the minority though. Still can't see the insult? Can't see the insult? When a man joins a mf couple for a threesome and enjoys it and subsequently say 'he wouldn't let a girlfriend of his do that' is :- 1) insulting women generally in that it was in his power to'let' 'his' girlfriend do or not do anything. 2) insults the couple and this woman in particular in that what they have just done is somehow wrong. I trust this help illuminate the 'insult' for you. I totally agree. Any woman who decides to share her body with anyone else other than her partner is affording others a privilege. As such, that lucky person should be more than grateful. My partner and I 'discovered' that we share basically the same aspirations sexually. If any man was to say that to us after being afford the privilege (not the right) of being pleasured by her, I'd f***him up!! lol, so, its nothing to do with the fact that you and your partner enjoy having sex with others? your just here to provide a 'privilege'? lol, if i get a meet, i hope it will be because the other party likes me, and wanted me to join in their fun! not because they felt they were handing out privileges!! " We wouldn't have got with that person if we didn't feel some afinity to him in the first place. I think that was a given! We're in this 'game' hopefully to pleasure each other and to share the experience with others. Hence, it is a privilege afford to others outside of the relationship that you may be in at any given time. | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? .... Seems we're in the minority though. Still can't see the insult? Can't see the insult? When a man joins a mf couple for a threesome and enjoys it and subsequently say 'he wouldn't let a girlfriend of his do that' is :- 1) insulting women generally in that it was in his power to'let' 'his' girlfriend do or not do anything. 2) insults the couple and this woman in particular in that what they have just done is somehow wrong. I trust this help illuminate the 'insult' for you. I totally agree. Any woman who decides to share her body with anyone else other than her partner is affording others a privilege. As such, that lucky person should be more than grateful. My partner and I 'discovered' that we share basically the same aspirations sexually. If any man was to say that to us after being afford the privilege (not the right) of being pleasured by her, I'd f***him up!! lol, so, its nothing to do with the fact that you and your partner enjoy having sex with others? your just here to provide a 'privilege'? lol, if i get a meet, i hope it will be because the other party likes me, and wanted me to join in their fun! not because they felt they were handing out privileges!! We wouldn't have got with that person if we didn't feel some afinity to him in the first place. I think that was a given! We're in this 'game' hopefully to pleasure each other and to share the experience with others. Hence, it is a privilege afford to others outside of the relationship that you may be in at any given time. " aaaaahh, ok, my mistake then! so its NOTHING to do with the fact your both turned on by inviting others to join you in your fun!! its just a pity you dont have the choice of inviting single guys, couples or females isnt it? anyway, my apologies for thinking you arent doing this for OUR benefit! | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? .... Seems we're in the minority though. Still can't see the insult? Can't see the insult? When a man joins a mf couple for a threesome and enjoys it and subsequently say 'he wouldn't let a girlfriend of his do that' is :- 1) insulting women generally in that it was in his power to'let' 'his' girlfriend do or not do anything. 2) insults the couple and this woman in particular in that what they have just done is somehow wrong. I trust this help illuminate the 'insult' for you. I totally agree. Any woman who decides to share her body with anyone else other than her partner is affording others a privilege. As such, that lucky person should be more than grateful. My partner and I 'discovered' that we share basically the same aspirations sexually. If any man was to say that to us after being afford the privilege (not the right) of being pleasured by her, I'd f***him up!! lol, so, its nothing to do with the fact that you and your partner enjoy having sex with others? your just here to provide a 'privilege'? lol, if i get a meet, i hope it will be because the other party likes me, and wanted me to join in their fun! not because they felt they were handing out privileges!! We wouldn't have got with that person if we didn't feel some afinity to him in the first place. I think that was a given! We're in this 'game' hopefully to pleasure each other and to share the experience with others. Hence, it is a privilege afford to others outside of the relationship that you may be in at any given time. aaaaahh, ok, my mistake then! so its NOTHING to do with the fact your both turned on by inviting others to join you in your fun!! its just a pity you dont have the choice of inviting single guys, couples or females isnt it? anyway, my apologies for thinking you arent doing this for OUR benefit! " No, its got everything to do with the applied insinuation that HIS woman would be too good to swing and the implied insinuation that the woman he's just fucked is obviously lower in the food chain that HIS partner would be. | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? .... Seems we're in the minority though. Still can't see the insult? Can't see the insult? When a man joins a mf couple for a threesome and enjoys it and subsequently say 'he wouldn't let a girlfriend of his do that' is :- 1) insulting women generally in that it was in his power to'let' 'his' girlfriend do or not do anything. 2) insults the couple and this woman in particular in that what they have just done is somehow wrong. I trust this help illuminate the 'insult' for you. I totally agree. Any woman who decides to share her body with anyone else other than her partner is affording others a privilege. As such, that lucky person should be more than grateful. My partner and I 'discovered' that we share basically the same aspirations sexually. If any man was to say that to us after being afford the privilege (not the right) of being pleasured by her, I'd f***him up!! lol, so, its nothing to do with the fact that you and your partner enjoy having sex with others? your just here to provide a 'privilege'? lol, if i get a meet, i hope it will be because the other party likes me, and wanted me to join in their fun! not because they felt they were handing out privileges!! We wouldn't have got with that person if we didn't feel some afinity to him in the first place. I think that was a given! We're in this 'game' hopefully to pleasure each other and to share the experience with others. Hence, it is a privilege afford to others outside of the relationship that you may be in at any given time. aaaaahh, ok, my mistake then! so its NOTHING to do with the fact your both turned on by inviting others to join you in your fun!! its just a pity you dont have the choice of inviting single guys, couples or females isnt it? anyway, my apologies for thinking you arent doing this for OUR benefit! No, its got everything to do with the applied insinuation that HIS woman would be too good to swing and the implied insinuation that the woman he's just fucked is obviously lower in the food chain that HIS partner would be." no its not! we havent had any context of the conversation! did he make the remark after they had their fun! if so, maybe it was his first time and he realised that he wouldnt like to see his partner do it! nothing wrong there!! if it wasnt his first time with a couple, then ye, hes a bit of a plonker for saying it! but, the comnent i made earlier still stands, the couple invited him for THEIR pleasure as well as his! | |||
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" " I would never be with a girl who wants to swing." " Broken the quote down. Regardless of how the tone of voice sounded, the words speak volumes .... and to me, reiterate exactly what I said above! | |||
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"I think most cpls on here, including us just enjoy a bit of fun! It does make our bond more special and there's no insecurities. If ppl are not secure enough in a relationship then its a bad place to be and will cause more trouble in the long run. Men who say those comments discust me, its like saying the person they are about to meet/fuck is worthless and how dare they judge someone!! The majority of people on here are so lovely yet it only takes one person to paint everyone with the same brush. Xx Could not agree more xxxxx" Ditto | |||
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" " I would never be with a girl who wants to swing." Broken the quote down. Regardless of how the tone of voice sounded, the words speak volumes .... and to me, reiterate exactly what I said above!" so, you broke the quote down to suit your words! but did he say them before, during or after the fact! because there is a diference as i have already said! if it was before or during then he is out of order! if it was after, he could have realised this isnt for him! as i said, CONTEXT. but well done for 'breaking the quote down'! | |||
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"We had a threesome with a guy and he made a comment, saying " I would never be with a girl who wants to swing." What's everyones opinion on this. " We'd tell him where to go, this is something we do together and we both take equal pleasure in seeing each other and having whatever fun we like! I think if it actually came down to it this guy wouldnt be the one making the rules - if he had the chance to be with a woman into this lifestyle would he really be saying 'no, your not the one for me....' .... We think not as he'd prob be happy with whatever he could get!! ( no offence to the OP intended!!) xx | |||
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" " I would never be with a girl who wants to swing." Broken the quote down. Regardless of how the tone of voice sounded, the words speak volumes .... and to me, reiterate exactly what I said above! so, you broke the quote down to suit your words! but did he say them before, during or after the fact! because there is a diference as i have already said! if it was before or during then he is out of order! if it was after, he could have realised this isnt for him! as i said, CONTEXT. but well done for 'breaking the quote down'! " I read it as 'after the act'..... And yes, I'm clever enough to break down a quote to my own ends! This is a forum, we are allowed our own opinions and we are allowed to debate and we are allowed to quote (Admin put in that facility) and if I want to break down a quote...... I will, cus I can. | |||
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"I've also heard it from plenty of women.... "When I find a bloke..... we're not swinging cus I couldn't cope with watching him shag someone else" The men, in my opinion, don't say it through jealousy but through some neanderthal notion that swinging women are slags. I've heard it too many times to care....... As soon as a bloke says it...... We're gone! as a single girl i was only into ffm as a couple i am only into ffm so haven't changed although he wants to do mmf its not for me so i said he can do on his own xxxx Well thats just total selfishness and full of issues, its fantasy, personal lives dont come into it, we have swung 3 yrs together and never had a disagreement, cos we trust each other and this in turn strengthens our relationship " what i have issues because i get nothing out of having sex with two guys no actually why should u be able to tell me what i can and can't do ty very much but just because u like doing that doesn't mean i have to and if u can show me the 'swinging' rules then please do so i am an adult so i choose what i will and won't do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
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" " I would never be with a girl who wants to swing." Broken the quote down. Regardless of how the tone of voice sounded, the words speak volumes .... and to me, reiterate exactly what I said above! so, you broke the quote down to suit your words! but did he say them before, during or after the fact! because there is a diference as i have already said! if it was before or during then he is out of order! if it was after, he could have realised this isnt for him! as i said, CONTEXT. but well done for 'breaking the quote down'! I read it as 'after the act'..... And yes, I'm clever enough to break down a quote to my own ends! This is a forum, we are allowed our own opinions and we are allowed to debate and we are allowed to quote (Admin put in that facility) and if I want to break down a quote...... I will, cus I can." you read it as after the act! exactly the point im trying to put over!! what if it was the guys first time and he realised it wasnt for him! havent you done anything you have later regretted! i know i have! as i said, its all in the context of a conversation! anyone can 'break down a quote' to suit there own argument! | |||
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" " I would never be with a girl who wants to swing." Broken the quote down. Regardless of how the tone of voice sounded, the words speak volumes .... and to me, reiterate exactly what I said above! so, you broke the quote down to suit your words! but did he say them before, during or after the fact! because there is a diference as i have already said! if it was before or during then he is out of order! if it was after, he could have realised this isnt for him! as i said, CONTEXT. but well done for 'breaking the quote down'! I read it as 'after the act'..... And yes, I'm clever enough to break down a quote to my own ends! This is a forum, we are allowed our own opinions and we are allowed to debate and we are allowed to quote (Admin put in that facility) and if I want to break down a quote...... I will, cus I can. you read it as after the act! exactly the point im trying to put over!! what if it was the guys first time and he realised it wasnt for him! havent you done anything you have later regretted! i know i have! as i said, its all in the context of a conversation! anyone can 'break down a quote' to suit there own argument! " So....... would YOU be with a woman that swings? | |||
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" " I would never be with a girl who wants to swing." Broken the quote down. Regardless of how the tone of voice sounded, the words speak volumes .... and to me, reiterate exactly what I said above! so, you broke the quote down to suit your words! but did he say them before, during or after the fact! because there is a diference as i have already said! if it was before or during then he is out of order! if it was after, he could have realised this isnt for him! as i said, CONTEXT. but well done for 'breaking the quote down'! I read it as 'after the act'..... And yes, I'm clever enough to break down a quote to my own ends! This is a forum, we are allowed our own opinions and we are allowed to debate and we are allowed to quote (Admin put in that facility) and if I want to break down a quote...... I will, cus I can. you read it as after the act! exactly the point im trying to put over!! what if it was the guys first time and he realised it wasnt for him! havent you done anything you have later regretted! i know i have! as i said, its all in the context of a conversation! anyone can 'break down a quote' to suit there own argument! So....... would YOU be with a woman that swings?" it wouldnt bother me in the slightest! thats why im on here! | |||
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"I give up" thank feck! i was just about to throw the towel in! just my point of view on what i read! hope you didnt take it to heart! | |||
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"My opion is if a single guy is not prepared to swing with a girlfriend, or who ever, then they are clearly here for their own needs and no fucker else's. Wonder why we dont do them" im not getting involved again in this! all i said earlier was if the guy said it after the 3sum (which we found out he did) then maybe it was his first time and realised it wasnt for him and any future gf he found! | |||
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"Says it all not bothered about the couple in general, only about shagging the fem" erm, wouldnt that be what the couple want in the first place? a guy to fuck the missus! isnt that what turns them on? or am i missing the point of a 3sum? | |||
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"My opion is if a single guy is not prepared to swing with a girlfriend, or who ever, then they are clearly here for their own needs and no fucker else's. Wonder why we dont do them im not getting involved again in this! all i said earlier was if the guy said it after the 3sum (which we found out he did) then maybe it was his first time and realised it wasnt for him and any future gf he found! " Or on the other hand....he might well have thought it before hand but didn't want to say so or he wouldn't have got a shag. However....when his balls were empty - and he had nothing to lose - he showed his true colours. Howabout that one?! | |||
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"My opion is if a single guy is not prepared to swing with a girlfriend, or who ever, then they are clearly here for their own needs and no fucker else's. Wonder why we dont do them" Everyone is here for their own needs, no one swings to make other people happy or fulfil other peoples fantasies!!!! I'm still looking for the contract that says if you swing as a single you MUST swing as a couple! Surely its about seeing what your New other half wants or how comfortable youare sharing a new partner? | |||
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"My opion is if a single guy is not prepared to swing with a girlfriend, or who ever, then they are clearly here for their own needs and no fucker else's. Wonder why we dont do them im not getting involved again in this! all i said earlier was if the guy said it after the 3sum (which we found out he did) then maybe it was his first time and realised it wasnt for him and any future gf he found! Or on the other hand....he might well have thought it before hand but didn't want to say so or he wouldn't have got a shag. However....when his balls were empty - and he had nothing to lose - he showed his true colours. Howabout that one?! " ye, well, we will never know eh! as i said earlier, the key word here is CONTEXT!! we dont know in what CONTEXT he said it! from what I gathered, he said it afterwards, which implied to me that he maybe regretted what he had done! (maybe not but thats MY opinion) im afraid the only people who will ever know are himself and the postees! so its really a mont point anyway! | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? .... Seems we're in the minority though. Still can't see the insult? Can't see the insult? When a man joins a mf couple for a threesome and enjoys it and subsequently say 'he wouldn't let a girlfriend of his do that' is :- 1) insulting women generally in that it was in his power to'let' 'his' girlfriend do or not do anything. 2) insults the couple and this woman in particular in that what they have just done is somehow wrong. I trust this help illuminate the 'insult' for you. " Well no, actually it doesn't. Looking back I don't think the guy said he wouldn't LET his girlfriend do that, just that he wouldn't want to be with someone that did? Think you are implying things to make your own argument there, but each to their own. All I am saying is, as a women, I am not offended by it. It is his choice not to choose a gf that swings, and it is their choice not to play with him if offended. Simple | |||
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"I'm not sure what the fuss is about? .... Seems we're in the minority though. Still can't see the insult? Can't see the insult? When a man joins a mf couple for a threesome and enjoys it and subsequently say 'he wouldn't let a girlfriend of his do that' is :- 1) insulting women generally in that it was in his power to'let' 'his' girlfriend do or not do anything. 2) insults the couple and this woman in particular in that what they have just done is somehow wrong. I trust this help illuminate the 'insult' for you. I totally agree. Any woman who decides to share her body with anyone else other than her partner is affording others a privilege. As such, that lucky person should be more than grateful. My partner and I 'discovered' that we share basically the same aspirations sexually. If any man was to say that to us after being afford the privilege (not the right) of being pleasured by her, I'd f***him up!! lol, so, its nothing to do with the fact that you and your partner enjoy having sex with others? your just here to provide a 'privilege'? lol, if i get a meet, i hope it will be because the other party likes me, and wanted me to join in their fun! not because they felt they were handing out privileges!! " Exactly.. apparently they should be honoured by this totally selfless act! | |||
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"We had a threesome with a guy and he made a comment, saying " I would never be with a girl who wants to swing." What's everyones opinion on this. " He had some cheek. On saying that though I used to chat to a single woman on fab. She once said she is happy to swing as a single woman but if she had a partner she would be upset if he wanted to swing as a couple. She said she would wonder why she wasn't enough for him. | |||
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