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By *arentsgonebad OP   Couple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Just our of curiosity the biggest cock I have slept with was prob around 9 inch was a one night stand got back dropped his pants and I didn't expect anything that size I gave it ago but it and found ut ar Times amazing and at times juat to much.

Has anyone ever got this far and turned down sex due to it been to big I wouldn't know whwre to start or what to say lol

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

No I can't say I have. I've seen pics on here of monster cocks which I wouldn't bother with but if I was with someone who was well endowed I'd give it a go. You don't have to put it all in do you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would have lube maybe helped?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No I can't say I have. I've seen pics on here of monster cocks which I wouldn't bother with but if I was with someone who was well endowed I'd give it a go. You don't have to put it all in do you? "

Just the tip is the best bit

Not that I have the problem of having a massive wanger

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By *lirtwithmeWoman
over a year ago

nottingham

I once met a guy and it was almost as long as his thigh! No kidding!

Never did manage to get some time alone with him, but still think about him from time to time

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By *0NyorksMan
over a year ago

.......

I can't imagine I'd ever be affected by this. Lollolol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have a friend who is 12 inches ..its just not right and he has issues with women willing to take him on.

Ive had more mention girth than length but im not putting it on a diet !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I prefer girth to length big cocks hurt my stomach so limoted to positions

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By *arentsgonebad OP   Couple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Yeah but was a one night stand don't usually carry it around in my purse lol

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

Not so much about length but I have had a complaint about girth.

Current FB needs a lot of warming up first and anal is out of the question.

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By *ood girl2010Couple
over a year ago

crewe


"Just our of curiosity the biggest cock I have slept with was prob around 9 inch was a one night stand got back dropped his pants and I didn't expect anything that size I gave it ago but it and found ut ar Times amazing and at times juat to much.

Has anyone ever got this far and turned down sex due to it been to big I wouldn't know whwre to start or what to say lol "

My BF has 9 inch and very thick to it feels so good but some times when im in doggy position him standing up it really hurts but in a nice way.

my x husband from Canada I was with for 4 years had 12 inch but my current bf feels bigger don't know why

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By *estinyIsAllCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire

An ex of mine had one the size of his forearm and he wasn't a dwarf either. He had length and girth and I felt like I was being impaled whenever we had sex, it just wasn't pleasurable. My husband however is slightly over average sized (7inch) and fits perfectly so I can bounce around to my hearts content lol, only certain positions does it feel like he's slamming into my stomach. I avoid massive dicks as a rule now, they do nothing for me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not for me. As much as I may like a guy, I get no pleasure for it; easily damaged too!

Mr Average please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding "

yeh! Those woman trying to stop being hurt or damaged! Damn you

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By *urhamgurlWoman
over a year ago

Durham

Girth is more important as I like to feel stretched. Saying that if I got my hands on a large one I would enjoy playing with it but maybe not let him fuck me with it.

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By *arentsgonebad OP   Couple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Exactly the reason why I avoid peiple like you no respect for what someone else wants , maybe I fetch my strap on bend u over and pound u hard see how u like it

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By *estinyIsAllCouple
over a year ago

Staffordshire


" yeh! Those woman trying to stop being hurt or damaged! Damn you "

Hahaha xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry can’t help it, they know what there getting there selfs into

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By *otfabcouple2017Couple
over a year ago

Nottingham

We are trying to find too big lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are trying to find too big lol"
love to know if you think mine is too big..lol

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By *otsossieMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield


"We are trying to find too big lol"

Suck it and see

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By *erfectly Average CoupleCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Just find them uncomfortable and it’s hard to enjoy

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By *r_Jake70Man
over a year ago

London


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding "

And arsehole of the day is.......

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By *hongman1Man
over a year ago

Mansfield


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding "

Exactly the reason why many men here have problems with meeting people..... we are not all the same, ladies, and this guy does NOT speak for all of us!

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

We meet a couple regular and he has size 10 inch , it’s funny when he strips off I can not resist sucking it but not so good for full sex can hurt a bit after a time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding

And arsehole of the day is......."

Never tired asshole either again that’s a no go from most women

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My Mrs much prefers Girth but nothing less than 7 inches in length as well?? that leaves me out of the loop then??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I knew someone who was huge. It was uncomfortable, certain positions weren’t possible and anal was a definite ‘no’, but it was a non-fab thing and I loved him so it was a very different situation.

There’s always something fun you can do with a decent partner and a nice penis.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding

And arsehole of the day is.......

Never tired asshole either again that’s a no go from most women "

Go steady, you’re inbox may explode from all this charm and consideration

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding

And arsehole of the day is.......

Never tired asshole either again that’s a no go from most women

Go steady, you’re inbox may explode from all this charm and consideration "

Thank you for your feedback- much appreciated

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

Not turned down but I have experienced too girthy. An ex of mine was as thick as my wrist and it mostly just hurt. We could only have sex in limited positions and not for very long. Luckily we could both have sex with others who we were more suited to.

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By *ita7Man
over a year ago

Kettering

The girls usually like what I have more the girth than length. As I push in always do it gently& ask her if she is okay. Just usually get a moan of pleasure! Did once bang a girls coil when had her legs go over my shoulders. Made us both wince a bit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Agree with the above, girthy can sometimes be too much but plenty of lube can help. If not just tell the guy and think of other ways to enjoy it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our profile says I don’t do hung or vwe guys. If we do end up meeting anyone like that I would stop the meet. Firstly because I just wouldn’t like it and secondly because they would have obviously disregarded our profile and misled us as I always ask if I’m arranging a meet. Hubby is very girthy so one is more than enough......def don’t need 2!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t think mine is disastrously large I was called a womb raider once though

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding "

Why? Do you know someone that's got one?

;-)

Just joshing with you dude, but you are being a (big)bit of a dick....

S

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By *arentsgonebad OP   Couple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding

And arsehole of the day is.......

Never tired asshole either again that’s a no go from most women

Go steady, you’re inbox may explode from all this charm and consideration

Thank you for your feedback- much appreciated "

Exactly the kinds guy who ruins fab , wouldn't surprise me if his pictures were even his with that blatant disrespect for others

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By *cunnylassCouple
over a year ago

Exeter

We played with a guy last year who had an enormous cock.It was at

least 9" long and very thick.He had amazing stamina and fucked Mandy really hard for ages.She couldn't walk properly for at least 2 days!

Mike

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By *ressed4fun03TV/TS
over a year ago

Midlands

Im happy to suck monster cocks but theres no way they are fitting inside me x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been turned down several times for being too big. It was frustrating, but I always respected the fact a lady gets to choose whatever she puts inside her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On of my meets was with a guy who was 10” but I didn’t feel he could properly get into it as it physically was just too long so impossible to deep throat and on occasion too much downstairs too

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By *eeNewSwingMan
over a year ago

Kettering

It’s one of those things.

As far as I see it if the guy is doing his job right then she should be more than in the mood to receive it.

That said I’ve had a couple of times where it’s become painful for them so I just withdrew and finished them off with my tongue.

The whole point is it has to be comfortable for both parties involved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been turned down several times for being too big. It was frustrating, but I always respected the fact a lady gets to choose whatever she puts inside her."

Don’t know about turning someone down solely on their appendage; if there’s a chemistry I’d try to work it out lol.... admittedly I’d probably fail!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been turned down several times for being too big. It was frustrating, but I always respected the fact a lady gets to choose whatever she puts inside her.

Don’t know about turning someone down solely on their appendage; if there’s a chemistry I’d try to work it out lol.... admittedly I’d probably fail! "

It's happened to me a few times lol. I tried to tell them we could use plenty of lube. They remained unconvinced.

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By *arentsgonebad OP   Couple
over a year ago

Sheffield

It's an awkward situation for everyone isn't it I think about 8 8.5 is about my limit even then has to be lubed and nice and gental

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got an 8’inch

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Im 9.5 but its the thickness that most struggle with. You can always control how deep you thrust. Anal is another challenge....sadly. Once dated a girl and after the first intimate session she jokingly said, "feel free to cheat on me" because she was struggling to take it all in.

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By *arentsgonebad OP   Couple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Im fine with girth it's length I struggle with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been turned down several times for being too big. It was frustrating, but I always respected the fact a lady gets to choose whatever she puts inside her.

Don’t know about turning someone down solely on their appendage; if there’s a chemistry I’d try to work it out lol.... admittedly I’d probably fail!

It's happened to me a few times lol. I tried to tell them we could use plenty of lube. They remained unconvinced. "

Think you need a photo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I got finished off and out of action at a club, never felt the need to sit down straight after to preserve my insides lol at the time, it wasn’t painful or uncomfortable but very stretched afterwards

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been turned down several times for being too big. It was frustrating, but I always respected the fact a lady gets to choose whatever she puts inside her.

Don’t know about turning someone down solely on their appendage; if there’s a chemistry I’d try to work it out lol.... admittedly I’d probably fail!

It's happened to me a few times lol. I tried to tell them we could use plenty of lube. They remained unconvinced. "

Id you're too long the amount if lube isn't going to help.

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By *owithflow321Man
over a year ago

Molesey

I can imagine how you aided feel, I have been penetrated a few times and it was the width that got me, I was also given some lube with anaesthetic which makes it more enjoyable for both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gurth over length

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By *hy_bangor_bi-girlWoman
over a year ago

Bangor

Length is great for playing and oral but sex was just far too painful, i had to stop.

Def girth over length anytime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m no contest tiny here lol

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By *r_Jake70Man
over a year ago

London

And as always, it’s turned into another dick waving contest.

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By *DreamOfGenieWoman
over a year ago

London

Jawlock is no joke...and neither is explaining it to the staff at A&E

*According to a friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

6.5 here so perfect for your arse

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jawlock is no joke...and neither is explaining it to the staff at A&E

*According to a friend "

Brilliant response!!

......... as I worked my way through this Forrest of huge dicks!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

iv had this many times, i whip it out and they smile but then as it grows lol

there like jesus that is like my arm and they then doubt having a go but then....

like they say once you go big you dont go small

not being smug but it has genuinely happened several times and can be arkward

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By *r_Jake70Man
over a year ago

London


"not being smug......"

Not at all mate....... I imagine all that blood being drawn away from your brain must leave you unable to form coherent sentences. It must be a terrible affliction to carry.

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"Not so much about length but I have had a complaint about girth.

Current FB needs a lot of warming up first and anal is out of the question. "

Hot water bottle then....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having a big cock is overrated.......

You never get anal, and some women will avoid you like the plaque....

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight


"Jawlock is no joke...and neither is explaining it to the staff at A&E

*According to a friend "

You just have to says "hufor, hucks hsake hits hu shexxsh hindduree..."

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By *ocoTemptationMan
over a year ago

london

I'm the owner of one of those happy medium average 6.5" sized cocks. Although even with mine I have been asked to start slowly on a couple of occasions which surprised me the first time around. Everyone is different and that is one of the fun things about the swingers lifestyle. You get to have a variety of er.......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding "

Wow you hate them? You hate them trying? Well hopefully they did stop you wtf!!!

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By *ocoTemptationMan
over a year ago

london


"Having a big cock is overrated.......

You never get anal, and some women will avoid you like the plaque...."

Never let it be said that mother nature doesn't have a sense of humor. I've been told my cock size is perfect for anal but I'm not that fussed if its not part of play lol

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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago

Catthorpe


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding "

Wowza!

The type with such attitude we are always seeking to avoid meeting on here.

When they are 'trying' to stop you are you the type who tries to keep ramming it in deep as it's this deep sensation you're after?

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding "

A good reason for filters......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been turned down several times for being too big. It was frustrating, but I always respected the fact a lady gets to choose whatever she puts inside her.

Don’t know about turning someone down solely on their appendage; if there’s a chemistry I’d try to work it out lol.... admittedly I’d probably fail! "

Interestingly enough ive been turned down for not being big enough so there is alot of that on her for sure and im hardly micro and im quite thick... But an interesting thread hearing peoples views

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And iv put a picture on public view for those looking lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding

A good reason for filters......"

Or the block button perhaps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"iv had this many times, i whip it out and they smile but then as it grows lol

there like jesus that is like my arm and they then doubt having a go but then....

like they say once you go big you dont go small

not being smug but it has genuinely happened several times and can be arkward "

It’s not about size or colour here, I would never even chat with a guy who has an ego bigger than his cock.

Quality over quantity all the way for me, you could have the biggest cock but if you don’t know how to use your tool......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I hate women I meet trying to stop me from fucking then deep, I need to find a women who is a lover of big cock and can take a good pounding

A good reason for filters......

Or the block button perhaps "

Now there would be a good wind up for me with my reply to that message if it came my way. Ego’s ego’s....certainly kill the mood

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Id love to meet this friend

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By *urvy Girl 79Woman
over a year ago

Near Bourne

I'm a lover of Mr Average. I cant enjoy full sex with a well hung guy. Its uncomfortable and can be painful. I do however like to see a well hung guy and enjoy playing with and sucking a larger cock.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Same here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Women are often put off by me being a big cock

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"And as always, it’s turned into another dick waving contest. "
spot on and have you noticed like I have the ones that lets say like to wave them are just average even though claiming to be 9 etc etc must have big hands some of them

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By *ocoTemptationMan
over a year ago

london


"I'm a lover of Mr Average. I cant enjoy full sex with a well hung guy. Its uncomfortable and can be painful. I do however like to see a well hung guy and enjoy playing with and sucking a larger cock. "

I'm the same my exgirlfriend and me loved sucking guys with big cocks...much easier to share. There is such a thing as too big to suck and enjoy though lol

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By *hoot45Man
over a year ago

Ramsgate


"I'm a lover of Mr Average. I cant enjoy full sex with a well hung guy. Its uncomfortable and can be painful. I do however like to see a well hung guy and enjoy playing with and sucking a larger cock. "

Seeing a big cock swinging, particularly in trackies is very horny. Having them pumping away in holes where the sun don’t shine and with very little control is another matter! Lol At least when you’re sucking one you can can control what’s going on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a lover of Mr Average. I cant enjoy full sex with a well hung guy. Its uncomfortable and can be painful. I do however like to see a well hung guy and enjoy playing with and sucking a larger cock. "

Mr Average here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And as always, it’s turned into another dick waving contest. spot on and have you noticed like I have the ones that lets say like to wave them are just average even though claiming to be 9 etc etc must have big hands some of them "

It’s crazy, you would think a thread about big cock problems would be filled with people talking about their cocks.....

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By *niformed professionalMan
over a year ago

Exeter

The size of mine does put women off

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By *atindollTV/TS
over a year ago

edinburgh

NEVER!....I never read any more than the headline

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When i speak to people in clubs and i say I'm 7-8 inch with perfect girth i get smiled at...! My club buddy says I'm quite big but some of the sizes on here put me to shame tbh so i put cock size down to history of what the woman has previously had. I guess its all down to preference too.

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By *ete le MeatMan
over a year ago

Derbyshire/ Notts

I got turned down by a woman in Brazil of all places. She whipped down my trousers, weighed it in her hands and said 'no way'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I got turned down by a woman in Brazil of all places. She whipped down my trousers, weighed it in her hands and said 'no way'

"

You must have been on Cockaban Beach,

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By *ete le MeatMan
over a year ago

Derbyshire/ Notts

You must have been on Cockaban Beach

Lol. I did go on some nudist beach there too. I reckon thst was it lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I recently played a with guy with about 10 inch with massive girth .. it was all fine and horny when he shared pictures and cam play before the meet, but when we met I must admit I didn’t enjoy the penetration sex very much as it was too painful.. but I enjoyed sucking him though..

As they say too much is not always good for you - just like Sugar..

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands


"Just our of curiosity the biggest cock I have slept with was prob around 9 inch was a one night stand got back dropped his pants and I didn't expect anything that size I gave it ago but it and found ut ar Times amazing and at times juat to much.

Has anyone ever got this far and turned down sex due to it been to big I wouldn't know whwre to start or what to say lol "

Im about 8 and had one wonan refuse doggy due to being worried about going to deep

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I met a guy who was too big for me, it was about 9/10 inches long as very thick, he had to buy larger size condoms. We did try to have sex but it was too painful for me

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By *eachPreacherMan
over a year ago

Kent/London

I've been turned down for being too big before, though in those cases I'm happy to just give oral instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been turned down for being too big before, though in those cases I'm happy to just give oral instead"

Without knowing it dude you living the life of a small cocked guy

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When my wife and I used to meet single guys we met a guy who had a genuine 12 inches and thick, pre meet excitement was incredible, but the reality meant it took ages for him to get it all inside and then he could only fuck slow and hard to change positions due to the wife being uncomfortable, guy was nice and she did enjoy but not the hot passionate raw sex we both had anticipated. Following the meeting she regularly hooked up with a local guy who had a thick 8 inches and could really use it, he would fuck her for hours and it was the best sex she ever had, so I would say fantasy wise, huge cocks are exciting but not as pleasurable as a smaller cock that could be used properly, but everyone is different which is why some love huge cocks and some don’t

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

An ex bf was 10in and girthy ... just painful...I prefer girth to length...my hubby has a good 7in and that hits the spot just nice!

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By *uckslut and MCouple
over a year ago

Poole

We reg turn down big ones! Anything over 8 inches, not going anyway near me. Please feel free to block us. Saves everyone time later.

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By *uckslut and MCouple
over a year ago

Poole


"I've been turned down for being too big before, though in those cases I'm happy to just give oral instead"

, yep sorry, that would be a no from us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From my experience shorter girls struggle. I'm not saying mines massive but a few have said it was too much but like I said short girls. Girls taller than me can usually take it all no problem haha

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By *dx69Man
over a year ago

London

I knew a guy with 11 inches, and stupidly thick. Looked amazing but he couldn’t keep a gf

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Quite happy being a little above average.

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By *uckslut and MCouple
over a year ago

Poole


"I've been turned down several times for being too big. It was frustrating, but I always respected the fact a lady gets to choose whatever she puts inside her."

Frustrating yes, but I've had big guys make me bleed and be sore for days after. Actual pian is worst than being frustrated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been turned down for being too big before, though in those cases I'm happy to just give oral instead"
lol I'm not surprised if i was a woman or gay I wouldnt want that inside me probably kill someone with it

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By *inkyCouple1927Couple
over a year ago

Newcastle


"I've been turned down for being too big before, though in those cases I'm happy to just give oral instead"

Was the reaction from S...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We are trying to find too big lol"

Hahaha same here!

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By *ants cockWoman
over a year ago

lincoln

If you are tall and can’t take a big cock get yourself checked for endometriosis.

Or play more first and get properly soaked. Or use lube.

I don’t understand how you can take it all in your mouth and not your pussy??

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By *layfulAussieMan
over a year ago

Sydney


"We are trying to find too big lol

Hahaha same here!"

Can I (try and) help?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In my experience, my girth can present an issue for some. It's a nice 7" in length but around the bell it's 7" around and 5" round the shaft. Over the years I've had....

"it's too big to suck"

"it's making my jaw ache"

"what do you use for protection... An inner tube?"

"that's going nowhere near my arse"

When the truth is, with the right foreplay, positions and lubricant most women can accommodate most sizes if the guy has the right technique and patience.

Horses for courses though.

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By *harliebluestockingsCouple
over a year ago

london

Too*

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By *egasus NobMan
over a year ago

Wandsworth


"Jawlock is no joke...and neither is explaining it to the staff at A&E

*According to a friend "

the evil in me like this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a great thread - nice to hear alot of ladies dont actually get pleasure from the massive dicks that if you pardon the expression are rammed down our throats all the time.

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By *its The Spot AlotMan
over a year ago

Plymouth

The Mrs had a guy a while back with a thick 10" cock.

I was working away and got the message after they finished,to tell me she had a great time.

When we were having reclaim sex a few days later she told me every detail.

He was very considerate and took things slow,

The Mrs is a BBW which actually helped him keep control in a few positions with the depth.

He fucked her hard to a finish in the missionary position after also fucking her from behind and on her side.

She loved it but he had to be careful butting into her coil etc.

Really wish they filmed it for me.

He moved away, a pity as I would of liked her to repeat it whilst I watched or spit roasted her I hope she finds another one day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Miss hoolie would like to try a huge cock. Archie would like to see her too

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By *arentsgonebad OP   Couple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"What a great thread - nice to hear alot of ladies dont actually get pleasure from the massive dicks that if you pardon the expression are rammed down our throats all the time. "

Thanks from a female perspectives I wanted to see how others felt glad it's helped out xx

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