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Should motorbikes be banned?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Plus needlessly crowd country roads, polluting the air and making travel more dangerous

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

No. Grumpy old men are far more dangerous.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"No. Grumpy old men are far more dangerous.

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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago

south west , continental

Perhaps this thread should have been put on the Bikers forum! I'm sure the response would be overwhelming and somewhat colourful!

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By *as_no_ideaWoman
over a year ago

......

Motorbikes are not aggressive, they are a piece of machinery..

It's who handles them that may be aggressive

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By *nglishdoodMan
over a year ago

Morristown

Let me see. Yes I agree! Ban them all immediately!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You obviously don't understand motorbikes. Or us that ride them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You could say that about Audi drivers.

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island

No, because the NHS need all the organs they can get.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rather ban generic boring old men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like bollocks , ban aggressive drivers ,bikers ,cyclists ,pedestrians

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not the bikes or cars that are dangerous it's the drivers. Like the saying goes guns don't kill people-people kill people.

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

I love the anti German saloon car comments usually by people who drive Hyundai’s

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By *etite HandfulWoman
over a year ago

Chester

Whilst many who ride them have little road sense and ride dangerously I wouldn't ban them as unless they have accumulated a mass of points they should still be allowed to use the roads.

And besides lets be honest when everything is electric and limited to compulsory speed limits the appeal will have gone for most.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

What utter drivel OP... I personally think everyone able to should have to start on a bike. It would make for far better drivers imho

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s motorbikes that have put us in our nice house. Can honestly say the nicest people I know are bikers. You’ll never get more loyal friends

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By *rAngleseyMan
over a year ago

Anglesey

Keep the bikes & ban people from moaning on the forum & in general.

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By *hromosexualsCouple
over a year ago

Near Abercynon

Ah, casual stereotyping.

I want to ride until I can't keep it up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What utter drivel OP... I personally think everyone able to should have to start on a bike. It would make for far better drivers imho"

Absolutely. At the very least they would learn why they have to actually look for bikers on the road before they just change lanes, and use signal lights.

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By *onboy 10Man
over a year ago

stamford

Jesus,the op is such a tool ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s motorbikes that have put us in our nice house. Can honestly say the nicest people I know are bikers. You’ll never get more loyal friends "

Well said.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

You haven't a clue what you are on about. I've ridden bikes on the road for 40 years, a couple of minor accidents in my teens and not one single traffic offence EVER.

I don't like smoking but I don't moan about it saying it should be banned.

Live and let live I say.

By the way, that poor lad that was knocked off his bike by the American diplomats wife. Was that him riding dangerously or the car being driven in the wrong side of the road??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a well proven fact that motorcyclists and ex motorcyclists make better car drivers.

I think the OP is just wants an argument!! Lol

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

The OP can have his opinion but it's a twatish opinion in my book.

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By *ravelling TogMan
over a year ago

sleaford


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By the way, that poor lad that was knocked off his bike by the American diplomats wife. Was that him riding dangerously or the car being driven in the wrong side of the road?? "

Exactly this. OP must be wanting more attention on his profile. Either that or he's never ridden a bike (motor or otherwise) or been further than his front door.

Case in point I broke down in the middle of nowhere in Scotland and had two bikers (seperately) pull over to make sure I was ok with one even offering me water just in case the AA took longer than they quoted.

Decent people.

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By *onboy 10Man
over a year ago

stamford


"It's a well proven fact that motorcyclists and ex motorcyclists make better car drivers.

I think the OP is just wants an argument!! Lol"

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By *onboy 10Man
over a year ago

stamford

Absolutely matey,well said...

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

Hmm an interesting thread, can I just say that motor cycles in themselves are not at all dangerous, there are two issues that make them so; both very much connected.

1. SOME (yes I mean some) people who ride them are their own worst enemies and ride like twats !

2. SOME (yes again some) other road users, do not understand motorcycles seem to think they are invisible and don't see them despite bright lights on the front etc.

I do not have an agenda either way, I have been a motorcyclist 42 years and a car driver 41 !

oh yeh and a twat in a golf GTi (other makes are available) is just as dangerous as a twat on a bike !

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By *onboy 10Man
over a year ago

stamford


"Hmm an interesting thread, can I just say that motor cycles in themselves are not at all dangerous, there are two issues that make them so; both very much connected.

1. SOME (yes I mean some) people who ride them are their own worst enemies and ride like twats !

2. SOME (yes again some) other road users, do not understand motorcycles seem to think they are invisible and don't see them despite bright lights on the front etc.

I do not have an agenda either way, I have been a motorcyclist 42 years and a car driver 41 !

oh yeh and a twat in a golf GTi (other makes are available) is just as dangerous as a twat on a bike !"

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By *onboy 10Man
over a year ago

stamford


"Hmm an interesting thread, can I just say that motor cycles in themselves are not at all dangerous, there are two issues that make them so; both very much connected.

1. SOME (yes I mean some) people who ride them are their own worst enemies and ride like twats !

2. SOME (yes again some) other road users, do not understand motorcycles seem to think they are invisible and don't see them despite bright lights on the front etc.

I do not have an agenda either way, I have been a motorcyclist 42 years and a car driver 41 !

oh yeh and a twat in a golf GTi (other makes are available) is just as dangerous as a twat on a bike !"

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By *ornyal138Man
over a year ago

bromley kent

Riding a bike is an absolute pleasure. We are not the ones causing traffic Jams and can’t remember the last time I saw a diesel bike polluting the atmosphere

OP think you need to think about other things to

Worry about otherwise your hair will all fall out - oh wait it has!

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By *agicwand74Man
over a year ago

mossley


"No. Grumpy old men are far more dangerous.

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well said sara

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"Plus needlessly crowd country roads, polluting the air and making travel more dangerous "

Have you nearly hit a bike and had the rider have a go at you?

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington


"Riding a bike is an absolute pleasure. We are not the ones causing traffic Jams and can’t remember the last time I saw a diesel bike polluting the atmosphere

OP think you need to think about other things to

Worry about otherwise your hair will all fall out - oh wait it has! "
what’s his hair got to do with it

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By *onboy 10Man
over a year ago

stamford

As the saying goes," there's a lot of old bikers ,and a lot of old bikers " there's not a lot of old bold biker's" .... Experience counts big time,I've been riding since I was 4 ,I'm 55 now and still here ,probably why my fireblade is staying in the garage until it stops raining,in the meantime ill use my 435 bm ....

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Plus needlessly crowd country roads, polluting the air and making travel more dangerous "
how do they do this.. bikes are rarely caught up in jams and are usually much more efficient

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells


"Riding a bike is an absolute pleasure. We are not the ones causing traffic Jams and can’t remember the last time I saw a diesel bike polluting the atmosphere

OP think you need to think about other things to

Worry about otherwise your hair will all fall out - oh wait it has! "

The two best pleasures of life :

Riding a motorbike

Sex

In no particular order.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Riding a bike is an absolute pleasure. We are not the ones causing traffic Jams and can’t remember the last time I saw a diesel bike polluting the atmosphere

OP think you need to think about other things to

Worry about otherwise your hair will all fall out - oh wait it has!

The two best pleasures of life :

Riding a motorbike

Sex

In no particular order. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bikers are cooler and get more sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not to mention that Bikers here are usually out every Sunday chasing the sun with other bikers doing poker runs that raises money for different charities, or having huge toy runs for the santa Claus fund, or having hog events at campgrounds that once again raises money for various charities or causes all at their own expense, just because we love to ride.

I have yet to see a huge 2000 vehicle motorcade of Lexus or Audis or Lambos or even chevettes join together to raise money for anything or strap toys on their hoods to just do something cool with other riders for no other reason than to be a part of the thunder roll.

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By *heIcebreakersCouple
over a year ago

Cramlington


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "
Is it lonely under the bridge where trolls live?

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By *iss-louWoman
over a year ago

Cardiff


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "

And its nigh on impossible to shag on one.. yes.. ban them. Incompatible with swinging (chat)

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Not to mention that Bikers here are usually out every Sunday chasing the sun with other bikers doing poker runs that raises money for different charities, or having huge toy runs for the santa Claus fund, or having hog events at campgrounds that once again raises money for various charities or causes all at their own expense, just because we love to ride.

I have yet to see a huge 2000 vehicle motorcade of Lexus or Audis or Lambos or even chevettes join together to raise money for anything or strap toys on their hoods to just do something cool with other riders for no other reason than to be a part of the thunder roll.

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actually Subaru owners club and Alfa owners have done santa runs.. and actually you can't run more than a certain amount of cars in convoy without permission these days. Last big big convoy I did car wise was for the late great Colin McRae.

But yea bikers do a lot.. was just pointing out that as a car enthusiast many many car clubs also do charity events.. but are also usually the ones branded as boy racers or dangerous cars etc... ( Maybe not Alfa owners.. as they can all be a bit prim and proper but do charity stuff)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Powered 2 wheel vehicles are our future, more and more people are taking the CBT etc and switching from car to moped/scooter/motorbike for the commute, bikers have always considered themselves outsiders but it’s going to become mainstream over the coming years

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Powered 2 wheel vehicles are our future, more and more people are taking the CBT etc and switching from car to moped/scooter/motorbike for the commute, bikers have always considered themselves outsiders but it’s going to become mainstream over the coming years "
I miss riding but injury now means I can't

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bikers are cooler and get more sex"

Well where am I going wrong then! Lol

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By *illpeopleCouple
over a year ago

High Peak

Yes ban them all. Except for my Buell Firebolt....??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bikers are cooler and get more sex

Well where am I going wrong then! Lol"

Good ol Milwaukee vibrator keeps me humming.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No, because the NHS need all the organs they can get. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Bikers are cooler and get more sex

Well where am I going wrong then! Lol

Good ol Milwaukee vibrator keeps me humming. "

x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I love the anti German saloon car comments usually by people who drive Hyundai’s "

The 3 cars in drive are all German including 1 Audi.

The comment was a sarcastic one at the Ops generalisation of a group.

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By *hangerMan
over a year ago

brighton

As is the same way with all other road users, there are some really good bikers, and some idiots.

Although the idiots are (hopefully) in the minority, they tend to be the ones that get remembered for their stupidity!

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Do they have to revved so incessantly when idling though? Theres a cuntbubble opposite me with a lambretta who thinks the whole street just loves to hear it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's what noise laws are for. Shouldnt be doing that past 11pm. That's just a douchebag.

I like my loud pipes for sure but it is because a. I like them and 2. So people can hear me in traffic.

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By *ecrets4everCouple
over a year ago

X


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "

I think you’ll find that most riders have superior observation and awareness skills. They need to have to survive the inferior skills of many car drivers.

It’s in their best interests to be skilled given the fact they’ll come off so much worse in a collision.

I fear reckless car drivers on their mobile phones much more than any other road users.

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By *uncouple_12Couple
over a year ago

bristol

I think he’s pissed his 330 bmw lost to a r1

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By *ireupthequattroCouple
over a year ago

Stratford


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "
dogging can be dangerous but you are intrested In it you old cogger

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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago

Hull

OP.

Someone once said that in every vehicle, of two, four or more wheels, there are thousands of Nuts holding it together.

It takes only one Nut in control to foul up how it works.

There's good and bad drivers of all vehicle types. Bikes have their advantages as well as disadvantages, just as cars do.

But to ban Bikes? It'll never happen!

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I think he’s pissed his 330 bmw lost to a r1 "
don't be silly.. it was only an r6

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By *uncouple_12Couple
over a year ago

bristol


"I think he’s pissed his 330 bmw lost to a r1 don't be silly.. it was only an r6 "
. My mistake

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think he’s pissed his 330 bmw lost to a r1 don't be silly.. it was only an r6 . My mistake "

My thunder cat would leave a 330 standing, never mind an R6

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By *uncouple_12Couple
over a year ago

bristol


"I think he’s pissed his 330 bmw lost to a r1 don't be silly.. it was only an r6 . My mistake

My thunder cat would leave a 330 standing, never mind an R6"
. That sounds like a challenge let’s find a 330 and a empty road

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By *ecrets4everCouple
over a year ago

X


"I think he’s pissed his 330 bmw lost to a r1 don't be silly.. it was only an r6 . My mistake

My thunder cat would leave a 330 standing, never mind an R6. That sounds like a challenge let’s find a 330 and a empty road "

Don’t find one in Sunderland. OP will be cross!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Let me see. Yes I agree! Ban them all immediately! "

Lol

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I think he’s pissed his 330 bmw lost to a r1 don't be silly.. it was only an r6 . My mistake

My thunder cat would leave a 330 standing, never mind an R6. That sounds like a challenge let’s find a 330 and a empty road "
you mean a private track

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By *uncouple_12Couple
over a year ago

bristol


"I think he’s pissed his 330 bmw lost to a r1 don't be silly.. it was only an r6 . My mistake

My thunder cat would leave a 330 standing, never mind an R6. That sounds like a challenge let’s find a 330 and a empty road

Don’t find one in Sunderland. OP will be cross!! "
but we might change his mind. He could become born again biker go out get a sons of anarchy hoody and a Harley

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being a rider who is none of anything you mention. What give you the right to feel motor bikes should be outlawed. Many dumb asses kill bikers because of carelessness m. Just as a car hitting a car should we go back to horses ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you he's an idiot !

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By *hampagne_Supernova_91Man
over a year ago

Manchester

Why ban Motorbikes? Some Car drivers can be just as dangerous and vice versa! Although....

Fuck Cyclists!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thank you from a responsible couple that both ride. That hit a nerve for sure !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can we just ban Harley’s?

Stupid _hromosexuals

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Can we just ban Harley’s?

Stupid _hromosexuals "

Yeah bikes with hand bags - what’s all that about

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By *abs..Woman
over a year ago

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There’s nothing wrong with motorbikes, it’s some of the people that ride them that are the problem. The same with every method of transport really

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "
no i think thats motorists sitting in their cocoon saying what the hells she doing how did she get a licence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "

Last time I rode a bike I don't remember acting aggressively or dangerously and certainly haven't kicked your car door in passing.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

It’s posts like this I thank the fab gods for the block button.

What a twat

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do they have to revved so incessantly when idling though? Theres a cuntbubble opposite me with a lambretta who thinks the whole street just loves to hear it. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If this is the OP's idea of "Swingers chat" no wonder he's not verified from a meet!

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By *hingy2Woman
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"No. Grumpy old men are far more dangerous.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

No. Road travel is dangerous and if you want to ban them you should be willing to drive them in your car instead, whenever /wherever they want to travel. The owners would be due compensation too - who's paying?

Unsafe road use should be tackled in a different way. Motorcyclists are more at risk and in danger

from larger vehicles. They pollute less too.

We share our world with different people, so need to learn how to coexist.

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By *hingy2Woman
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"There’s nothing wrong with motorbikes, it’s some of the people that ride them that are the problem. The same with every method of transport really "

Well said xxx

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By *hingy2Woman
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Not to mention that Bikers here are usually out every Sunday chasing the sun with other bikers doing poker runs that raises money for different charities, or having huge toy runs for the santa Claus fund, or having hog events at campgrounds that once again raises money for various charities or causes all at their own expense, just because we love to ride.

I have yet to see a huge 2000 vehicle motorcade of Lexus or Audis or Lambos or even chevettes join together to raise money for anything or strap toys on their hoods to just do something cool with other riders for no other reason than to be a part of the thunder roll.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What utter drivel OP... I personally think everyone able to should have to start on a bike. It would make for far better drivers imho"

Agreed. You naturally become more observant in a car when you ride a bike.

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By *osforthMan
over a year ago

newcastle on tyne

Don't be hard on bikers, we need more organ doners

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By *hingy2Woman
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Do they have to revved so incessantly when idling though? Theres a cuntbubble opposite me with a lambretta who thinks the whole street just loves to hear it. "

Nope, they idle quite well without the need to rev the tits out of them. The person doing this is just a cock! Ps Lambrettas are scooters not motorbikes xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a complete and utter idiotic post by the OP!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP was someone you care about hurt by a motorbike ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They are ridiculously dangerous, but if someone wants to take that risk then isn’t that up to them? As long as they are not hurting anyone else then that’s their call, I’m not into being told what to do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "

Speaking as someone who has picked up a dead biker off the road and transported them to the mortuary because a d*unk driver turned into their path and killed them, whilst their partner and son rode behind them, I say the OP is talking out of his arsehole.

Ban the OP from driving for his intolerant attitude to other road users instead

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don't be hard on bikers, we need more organ doners "

More organs come from car drivers than motorbike riders.

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"OP.

Someone once said that in every vehicle, of two, four or more wheels, there are thousands of Nuts holding it together.

It takes only one Nut in control to foul up how it works."

In any car, the most dangerous nut is the one behind the steering wheel....

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area

I see lots of road rage on my daily comute and not a motorbike in site plus, the roads are jammed and still no bikes in site. Conclusion: all the negative aspects of road use to which the OP refers are being caused by car, van, truck and lorry drivers.

Over the many years that I've driven to work sadly, there have been several fatalities none of them have involved motorcyclist.

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"Not to mention that Bikers here are usually out every Sunday chasing the sun with other bikers doing poker runs that raises money for different charities, or having huge toy runs for the santa Claus fund, or having hog events at campgrounds that once again raises money for various charities or causes all at their own expense, just because we love to ride.

I have yet to see a huge 2000 vehicle motorcade of Lexus or Audis or Lambos or even chevettes join together to raise money for anything or strap toys on their hoods to just do something cool with other riders for no other reason than to be a part of the thunder roll.

actually Subaru owners club and Alfa owners have done santa runs.. and actually you can't run more than a certain amount of cars in convoy without permission these days. Last big big convoy I did car wise was for the late great Colin McRae.

But yea bikers do a lot.. was just pointing out that as a car enthusiast many many car clubs also do charity events.. but are also usually the ones branded as boy racers or dangerous cars etc... ( Maybe not Alfa owners.. as they can all be a bit prim and proper but do charity stuff)"

The Club Triumph lot have an event every 2 years that raises money for charity - over £90,000 last time

It's the Round Britain Reliability Run, which is Knebworth, to John o'Groats, to Lands End and back to Knebworth. In a weekend

2000 miles in 48 hours!

Next one's first weekend in October next year, and I want to be part of it.

And with approx 140 cars taking part, it takes a LOT of organising, permits and permission

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rather ban generic boring old men. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So, looking into my crystal ball....

OP has recently had a road rage incident with a motorbike? ergo this post looking for comfort?

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By *erriAnneTV/TS
over a year ago

The shire

Bikes aren't dangerous it's the lack of respect by other road users that perpetuate the myth they are dangerous. Yes there are arse hole riders but 95% of riders are so careful. Car drivers and their lack of awareness cause most accidents tbh.

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

I'm off to find the "are there any celebrities on fab" thread, who would have thought victor Meldrew is on here ?

"I don't believe it"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No they shouldn't be banned,unresponsiable riders should be banned from owning them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You lot are far more reasonable than those in the cyclist bashing threads.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You could say that about Audi drivers."

Yes as it been proven though studies that Aldi drivers are the worst

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

After visiting relations in the Durham dales, they were always in danger of reckless groups of people on bikes breaking the dpeed limits, taking corners too fast and having accidents

Yes there are car drivers in golfs etc... But... They don't drive about in gangs, and threaten motorists ny chasing and attacking them.

The same arseholes that do wheelies thrn come off, then blame a car passing and chase in gangs a motorist then vandalise tjeir car, possibly causing an accident themselves .

Bikes are judt machines but attract the worst type of people, nsmely dpeed freaks who think they own the roads and the highway code is irrelevant.

Yhe police let them off all the time, but dhould confiscate the bikes and crush them., or massively increase insurance to at leadt a 4 figure sum per year to cover the trouble they cause to the nhs and emergency services

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Audi ffs auto-correct

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"actually Subaru owners club and Alfa owners have done santa runs.. and actually you can't run more than a certain amount of cars in convoy without permission these days. Last big big convoy I did car wise was for the late great Colin McRae.

But yea bikers do a lot.. was just pointing out that as a car enthusiast many many car clubs also do charity events.. but are also usually the ones branded as boy racers or dangerous cars etc... ( Maybe not Alfa owners.. as they can all be a bit prim and proper but do charity stuff)"

The Club Triumph lot have an event every 2 years that raises money for charity - over £90,000 last time

It's the Round Britain Reliability Run, which is Knebworth, to John o'Groats, to Lands End and back to Knebworth. In a weekend

2000 miles in 48 hours!

Next one's first weekend in October next year, and I want to be part of it.

And with approx 140 cars taking part, it takes a LOT of organising, permits and permission"

This is all awsome stuff to hear. Sturgis has raised millions upon millions of dollars here as well, all from us very annoying bikers.

I dont care what kind of vehicle enthusiast you are, sharing that passion and putting it to good cause is what we need more of. Keep rocking you two, high fives.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

They should also be faced with criminal justice, imprisonment for vandalism, assualt and intimidating legitimate road users going shopping, running kids to school etc., rather than treating country lanes as race tracks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Eh?! What is this utterpish thread... Ban motorbikes if you like wont stop me riding mine. Gtf.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


""actually Subaru owners club and Alfa owners have done santa runs.. and actually you can't run more than a certain amount of cars in convoy without permission these days. Last big big convoy I did car wise was for the late great Colin McRae.

But yea bikers do a lot.. was just pointing out that as a car enthusiast many many car clubs also do charity events.. but are also usually the ones branded as boy racers or dangerous cars etc... ( Maybe not Alfa owners.. as they can all be a bit prim and proper but do charity stuff)"

The Club Triumph lot have an event every 2 years that raises money for charity - over £90,000 last time

It's the Round Britain Reliability Run, which is Knebworth, to John o'Groats, to Lands End and back to Knebworth. In a weekend

2000 miles in 48 hours!

Next one's first weekend in October next year, and I want to be part of it.

And with approx 140 cars taking part, it takes a LOT of organising, permits and permission"

This is all awsome stuff to hear. Sturgis has raised millions upon millions of dollars here as well, all from us very annoying bikers.

I dont care what kind of vehicle enthusiast you are, sharing that passion and putting it to good cause is what we need more of. Keep rocking you two, high fives. "

What about legitimate road users? We should we be shoved off roads while this goes on?

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull


"You could say that about Audi drivers.

Yes as it been proven though studies that Aldi drivers are the worst "

Absolutely, I've stopped going because of the risk of picking up dents in my car because of them, lidl drivers aren't far behind

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Eh?! What is this utterpish thread... Ban motorbikes if you like wont stop me riding mine. Gtf. "

Break the kaw like a typical biker you mean

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford


"They should also be faced with criminal justice, imprisonment for vandalism, assualt and intimidating legitimate road users going shopping, running kids to school etc., rather than treating country lanes as race tracks "

Excellent, some policies here which the OP is going to back up now with evidence. I’m sure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've seen more reckless drivers than motorbike drivers. My father himself is a motorbike driver and you have no idea how many times he has had to go to hospital because some idiotic driver didn't check. Remember, they are more vulnerable than you are when on the road.

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By *arpe-diem7Man
over a year ago

derby

Much rather be on my bike. Bikes aren’t dangerous it’s idiots in comfy cars with all your distractions and using your phones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whilst many who ride them have little road sense and ride dangerously I wouldn't ban them as unless they have accumulated a mass of points they should still be allowed to use the roads.

And besides lets be honest when everything is electric and limited to compulsory speed limits the appeal will have gone for most. "

Well said that lady

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch


""actually Subaru owners club and Alfa owners have done santa runs.. and actually you can't run more than a certain amount of cars in convoy without permission these days. Last big big convoy I did car wise was for the late great Colin McRae.

But yea bikers do a lot.. was just pointing out that as a car enthusiast many many car clubs also do charity events.. but are also usually the ones branded as boy racers or dangerous cars etc... ( Maybe not Alfa owners.. as they can all be a bit prim and proper but do charity stuff)"

The Club Triumph lot have an event every 2 years that raises money for charity - over £90,000 last time

It's the Round Britain Reliability Run, which is Knebworth, to John o'Groats, to Lands End and back to Knebworth. In a weekend

2000 miles in 48 hours!

Next one's first weekend in October next year, and I want to be part of it.

And with approx 140 cars taking part, it takes a LOT of organising, permits and permission"

This is all awsome stuff to hear. Sturgis has raised millions upon millions of dollars here as well, all from us very annoying bikers.

I dont care what kind of vehicle enthusiast you are, sharing that passion and putting it to good cause is what we need more of. Keep rocking you two, high fives.

What about legitimate road users? We should we be shoved off roads while this goes on? "

How are any of these people illegitimate road users?

Why not just be honest and say that you think the roads should be solely for your use only?

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "

No but cyclists should!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"They should also be faced with criminal justice, imprisonment for vandalism, assualt and intimidating legitimate road users going shopping, running kids to school etc., rather than treating country lanes as race tracks

Excellent, some policies here which the OP is going to back up now with evidence. I’m sure "

There are trials being carried out where footage from dash cams can be used by the police to prosecute.

You might be getting away with everything now but in the future... Watch out! You'll have to stick to the highway code or else

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall


"They should also be faced with criminal justice, imprisonment for vandalism, assualt and intimidating legitimate road users going shopping, running kids to school etc., rather than treating country lanes as race tracks

Excellent, some policies here which the OP is going to back up now with evidence. I’m sure

There are trials being carried out where footage from dash cams can be used by the police to prosecute.

You might be getting away with everything now but in the future... Watch out! You'll have to stick to the highway code or else "

Same goes for car drivers. You may also have seen the recent undercover police footage where they found the standards of driving from other road users towards bikers was shocking.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They should also be faced with criminal justice, imprisonment for vandalism, assualt and intimidating legitimate road users going shopping, running kids to school etc., rather than treating country lanes as race tracks

Excellent, some policies here which the OP is going to back up now with evidence. I’m sure

There are trials being carried out where footage from dash cams can be used by the police to prosecute.

You might be getting away with everything now but in the future... Watch out! You'll have to stick to the highway code or else

Same goes for car drivers. You may also have seen the recent undercover police footage where they found the standards of driving from other road users towards bikers was shocking. "

Maybe also read up the highway code for motorbike users. You'd be surprised to what you can find

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford


"They should also be faced with criminal justice, imprisonment for vandalism, assualt and intimidating legitimate road users going shopping, running kids to school etc., rather than treating country lanes as race tracks

Excellent, some policies here which the OP is going to back up now with evidence. I’m sure

There are trials being carried out where footage from dash cams can be used by the police to prosecute.

You might be getting away with everything now but in the future... Watch out! You'll have to stick to the highway code or else "

Fantastic, because when I’m filtering through traffic I can catch about a dozen idiot car drivers on their phones or being a twat within 2 minutes.

You’ve never done anything wrong yourself, OP?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I've seen more reckless drivers than motorbike drivers. My father himself is a motorbike driver and you have no idea how many times he has had to go to hospital because some idiotic driver didn't check. Remember, they are more vulnerable than you are when on the road. "

In the Durham dales the opposite is true. Joyriding on bikes. I was driving an agricultural vehicle with neacons on doing 20mph and thankfully had more protection besides a vehicle more vandalism proof, legitimately using the roads within highway code and a dashcam

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"They should also be faced with criminal justice, imprisonment for vandalism, assualt and intimidating legitimate road users going shopping, running kids to school etc., rather than treating country lanes as race tracks

Excellent, some policies here which the OP is going to back up now with evidence. I’m sure

There are trials being carried out where footage from dash cams can be used by the police to prosecute.

You might be getting away with everything now but in the future... Watch out! You'll have to stick to the highway code or else

Fantastic, because when I’m filtering through traffic I can catch about a dozen idiot car drivers on their phones or being a twat within 2 minutes.

You’ve never done anything wrong yourself, OP?"

Yes but a genuine mistake, rather than being a deliberately dangerous pillock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is such a windup troll post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So sounds like a motorbike overtook you while doing the legal speed limit yet you were going slow?

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By *ants cockWoman
over a year ago

lincoln


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "

Sounds like you need a day out on a bike

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You could say that about Audi drivers."

Oh yes! i DO say that about Audi drivers!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So sounds like a motorbike overtook you while doing the legal speed limit yet you were going slow?"

He’s probably the type that sits at 50 in the slow lane on a motorway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They should also be faced with criminal justice, imprisonment for vandalism, assualt and intimidating legitimate road users going shopping, running kids to school etc., rather than treating country lanes as race tracks "

What if they take the kid to school on a motorbike...on a country lane? Or picking up milk from a shop?

We live on a country lane and guess who’s dangerous? Car drivers. The bike riders slow around the corner before the houses without fail, the cars belt around it like no one is ever coming. I’d ban cars first. You need to sit and address your aggression toward them... assholes are in all vehicles, and it’s possible you’re part of the problem.

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall

To answer the OP's original question. No motorbikes shouldn't be banned.

Slow moving motorhomes & caravans however...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

So, looking into my crystal ball....

OP has recently had a road rage incident with a motorbike? ergo this post looking for comfort?"

Vent his anger I think!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think the OP is one of them people that spends half his drive shouting at others that he’s got a dash cam while tapping it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So sounds like a motorbike overtook you while doing the legal speed limit yet you were going slow?

He’s probably the type that sits at 50 in the slow lane on a motorway. "

I had someone sitting at 40 once. Just because there was a police car at the side of the road. Was hilarious watching the police move to pull him over.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "

Complete TOSSER!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"After visiting relations in the Durham dales, they were always in danger of reckless groups of people on bikes breaking the dpeed limits, taking corners too fast and having accidents

Yes there are car drivers in golfs etc... But... They don't drive about in gangs, and threaten motorists ny chasing and attacking them.

The same arseholes that do wheelies thrn come off, then blame a car passing and chase in gangs a motorist then vandalise tjeir car, possibly causing an accident themselves .

Bikes are judt machines but attract the worst type of people, nsmely dpeed freaks who think they own the roads and the highway code is irrelevant.

Yhe police let them off all the time, but dhould confiscate the bikes and crush them., or massively increase insurance to at leadt a 4 figure sum per year to cover the trouble they cause to the nhs and emergency services "

Sounds like you've got us mixed up with the moped gangs of London.

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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago

Sandwich

I have always thought that everyone under the age of 25 should have to ride a bike and not be allowed to drive a car unless they have passed their bike test.

This should kill off a lot of the real idiots before they can get behind the wheel of a 4x4 or a German made car (I personally loved my Audi.)

Those that actually make it to driving a car would have much better awareness and consideration for other road users.

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents

Complete TOSSER! "

Think the OP will do well in the next pancake race if he can cope with the speed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Op did a biker leave you sitting at the traffic lights . Is this why your a bit miffed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I don't think they should ban motorbikes OP. But I do think riders should be made to stick to the laws of the road like speed limits and not over taking on solid white lines etc. Unfortunately, as with car drivers, it's the few dick heads that ruin it for the rest

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By *aughtycouple1008Couple
over a year ago

west london

I want to ride my bicycle. ...it's better than my tricycle. ....

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By *lanemikeMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Why ban them ? They are a cheaper practical form of transport for many people....

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this for real?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Why ban them ? They are a cheaper practical form of transport for many people...."

They're inherently dangerous

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford


"Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

"

Thanks for getting back to the basics, but all that you’ve written is wrong

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford


"Why ban them ? They are a cheaper practical form of transport for many people....

They're inherently dangerous "

Riding isn’t dangerous. Crashing is dangerous

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Is this for real? "

Yes im afraid so. There are plenty vehicles banned for good reason.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

Thanks for getting back to the basics, but all that you’ve written is wrong"

Ok, whete am i wrong ?

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl

Jesus h Christ....really?

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By *dam1971Man
over a year ago

Bedford


"Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

Thanks for getting back to the basics, but all that you’ve written is wrong

Ok, whete am i wrong ? "

Every

Single

Thing.

Massive, sweeping generalisations which day more about your ignorance than anything else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe we should consider banning the people that "don't see" bikers and throw their door open, or turn in front of them without a second thought

Plenty bikers that ride safe including myself...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

Thanks for getting back to the basics, but all that you’ve written is wrong

Ok, whete am i wrong ?

Every

Single

Thing.

Massive, sweeping generalisations which day more about your ignorance than anything else. "

You've no genuine argument then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

"

Or they’re loads of humans who use a cheaper mode of transport and don’t ride in gangs at all.

These types of people encompass everything from teachers to solicitors and many are parents and upstanding citizens, just like users of other motor vehicles.

Sports cars appeal to drivers who want speed are they dangerous? Is being adventurous in and of itself indicative of danger? I’m 45 and a mother and the only thing dangerous about me on a motorbike is the other cars. Mr Cagey is 45 and only kicks cars when they try to run him off the road for being entitled twats who don’t believe bikes are allowed to pass. Get over yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Is this for real?

Yes im afraid so. There are plenty vehicles banned for good reason. "

Aye but not because one dottery auld fart can’t look where he’s going

You’ll be the kinda fud that toots his horn at horse riders too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Also where do we sign up to be a racing gang of adventure rather than just people who ride bikes?

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By *ess n BenCouple
over a year ago

Didcot


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents "

I think you are getting motorcycles mixed up with push bikes lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maybe we should consider banning the people that "don't see" bikers and throw their door open, or turn in front of them without a second thought

Plenty bikers that ride safe including myself... "

Your vehicle doesn't give you adequate protection. All humans make mistakes and therefore some vehicles just aren't safe enough.

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over a year ago


"Maybe we should consider banning the people that "don't see" bikers and throw their door open, or turn in front of them without a second thought

Plenty bikers that ride safe including myself...

Your vehicle doesn't give you adequate protection. All humans make mistakes and therefore some vehicles just aren't safe enough.

"

Think your car gives you adequate protection if you were T-boned from an Artic truck at 70?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe we should consider banning the people that "don't see" bikers and throw their door open, or turn in front of them without a second thought

Plenty bikers that ride safe including myself...

Your vehicle doesn't give you adequate protection. All humans make mistakes and therefore some vehicles just aren't safe enough.

Think your car gives you adequate protection if you were T-boned from an Artic truck at 70? "

What colour truck?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

Or they’re loads of humans who use a cheaper mode of transport and don’t ride in gangs at all.

These types of people encompass everything from teachers to solicitors and many are parents and upstanding citizens, just like users of other motor vehicles.

Sports cars appeal to drivers who want speed are they dangerous? Is being adventurous in and of itself indicative of danger? I’m 45 and a mother and the only thing dangerous about me on a motorbike is the other cars. Mr Cagey is 45 and only kicks cars when they try to run him off the road for being entitled twats who don’t believe bikes are allowed to pass. Get over yourself. "

Your assuming i obstruct bikes?

Mr cagey is a prime example. He assesses if a motoriet has deliberately obstructed him, judges him/her, and administers punishment... Kicking his/her car. This is an example of your typical 3ntitled biker

What if the motorist made a henuine error?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Maybe we should consider banning the people that "don't see" bikers and throw their door open, or turn in front of them without a second thought

Plenty bikers that ride safe including myself...

Your vehicle doesn't give you adequate protection. All humans make mistakes and therefore some vehicles just aren't safe enough.

Think your car gives you adequate protection if you were T-boned from an Artic truck at 70?

What colour truck? "

The tractor i drove had large rear wheels and im sitting high up in a central position

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

Or they’re loads of humans who use a cheaper mode of transport and don’t ride in gangs at all.

These types of people encompass everything from teachers to solicitors and many are parents and upstanding citizens, just like users of other motor vehicles.

Sports cars appeal to drivers who want speed are they dangerous? Is being adventurous in and of itself indicative of danger? I’m 45 and a mother and the only thing dangerous about me on a motorbike is the other cars. Mr Cagey is 45 and only kicks cars when they try to run him off the road for being entitled twats who don’t believe bikes are allowed to pass. Get over yourself.

Your assuming i obstruct bikes?

Mr cagey is a prime example. He assesses if a motoriet has deliberately obstructed him, judges him/her, and administers punishment... Kicking his/her car. This is an example of your typical 3ntitled biker

What if the motorist made a henuine error? "

That genuine error could kill the biker so the car driver would be at fault, making them as dangerous, if not more so, than the bikers you're demonising.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe we should consider banning the people that "don't see" bikers and throw their door open, or turn in front of them without a second thought

Plenty bikers that ride safe including myself...

Your vehicle doesn't give you adequate protection. All humans make mistakes and therefore some vehicles just aren't safe enough.

Think your car gives you adequate protection if you were T-boned from an Artic truck at 70?

What colour truck? "

Blue with massive flashing yellow lights and naked lady number plates!

This boy still wouldn’t see it coming

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By * guy in NLMan
over a year ago

Wishaw

Yea ban bikes , more room for audi drivers then

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"They are inherently dangerous and also attract aggressive dangerous riders that think they're entitled to be reckless and its never their fault if theirs a near miss... Snd feel entitled to initiate road rage incidents

I think you are getting motorcycles mixed up with push bikes lol"

The only difference between push bikes and motorbikes, is the dangerous idiot on them has an engine to be even more dangerous

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP please come to my, or any for that matter, local bike night and present your views to the crowd. There will be plenty of people waiting to ‘talk’ to you about them!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

Or they’re loads of humans who use a cheaper mode of transport and don’t ride in gangs at all.

These types of people encompass everything from teachers to solicitors and many are parents and upstanding citizens, just like users of other motor vehicles.

Sports cars appeal to drivers who want speed are they dangerous? Is being adventurous in and of itself indicative of danger? I’m 45 and a mother and the only thing dangerous about me on a motorbike is the other cars. Mr Cagey is 45 and only kicks cars when they try to run him off the road for being entitled twats who don’t believe bikes are allowed to pass. Get over yourself.

Your assuming i obstruct bikes?

Mr cagey is a prime example. He assesses if a motoriet has deliberately obstructed him, judges him/her, and administers punishment... Kicking his/her car. This is an example of your typical 3ntitled biker

What if the motorist made a henuine error?

That genuine error could kill the biker so the car driver would be at fault, making them as dangerous, if not more so, than the bikers you're demonising."

So if your husband cuts me up im entitled to vandalise his bike?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe we should consider banning the people that "don't see" bikers and throw their door open, or turn in front of them without a second thought

Plenty bikers that ride safe including myself...

Your vehicle doesn't give you adequate protection. All humans make mistakes and therefore some vehicles just aren't safe enough.

Think your car gives you adequate protection if you were T-boned from an Artic truck at 70?

What colour truck?

The tractor i drove had large rear wheels and im sitting high up in a central position "

There’s a new one

should Tractors be banned from the roads?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

Or they’re loads of humans who use a cheaper mode of transport and don’t ride in gangs at all.

These types of people encompass everything from teachers to solicitors and many are parents and upstanding citizens, just like users of other motor vehicles.

Sports cars appeal to drivers who want speed are they dangerous? Is being adventurous in and of itself indicative of danger? I’m 45 and a mother and the only thing dangerous about me on a motorbike is the other cars. Mr Cagey is 45 and only kicks cars when they try to run him off the road for being entitled twats who don’t believe bikes are allowed to pass. Get over yourself.

Your assuming i obstruct bikes?

Mr cagey is a prime example. He assesses if a motoriet has deliberately obstructed him, judges him/her, and administers punishment... Kicking his/her car. This is an example of your typical 3ntitled biker

What if the motorist made a henuine error? "

A driver deliberately blocked his path three times and almost killed him. He kicked their door when they then tried to drive AT HIM in a rage that he did pass them. That’s not entitled. That’s him being angry they tried to kill him.

And if they did kill him? Would that be his fault if he’s doing the speed limit and following the rules of the road? Error comes with consequence. And when he was 23 that was the consequence for someone who was trying to kill him because they felt more entitled to the road. Be a respectful car driver, let bikes pass share the road with them. They don’t go kicking cars for fun you ridiculous person.

He didn’t kick the asshole who drove right into him out of a junction. He went to the hospital.

I’m assuming you obstruct bikes , you’re exactly the sort who deliberately centres themselves on a narrow road with a false authority that no one should pass. If you don’t obstruct bikes then no one would be kicking your car. These gangs you’re speaking of are often groups of riders enjoying a day out, charity riding or travelling to an event together.

It’s more fun than the bus and shouldn’t impact you so much. Be safe and courteous to bike riders as most are only reactive to distracted and dangerous car drivers who don’t care if they kill a biker.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe we should consider banning the people that "don't see" bikers and throw their door open, or turn in front of them without a second thought

Plenty bikers that ride safe including myself...

Your vehicle doesn't give you adequate protection. All humans make mistakes and therefore some vehicles just aren't safe enough.

Think your car gives you adequate protection if you were T-boned from an Artic truck at 70?

What colour truck?

The tractor i drove had large rear wheels and im sitting high up in a central position

There’s a new one

should Tractors be banned from the roads? "

Well when they come past my house my dog barks I know the farmers need them but it bothers me so should be changed to make my world best. Eff them.

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By *adMerWoman
over a year ago

Sandwich

How about we ban 4x4 drivers?

I see them driving dangerously most days and as a community carer I am on the road a lot. They seemingly have no spatial awareness, ability to reverse and just think that everyone should get out of their way.

Massive generalisation I know, but only what you are doing OP.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

Or they’re loads of humans who use a cheaper mode of transport and don’t ride in gangs at all.

These types of people encompass everything from teachers to solicitors and many are parents and upstanding citizens, just like users of other motor vehicles.

Sports cars appeal to drivers who want speed are they dangerous? Is being adventurous in and of itself indicative of danger? I’m 45 and a mother and the only thing dangerous about me on a motorbike is the other cars. Mr Cagey is 45 and only kicks cars when they try to run him off the road for being entitled twats who don’t believe bikes are allowed to pass. Get over yourself.

Your assuming i obstruct bikes?

Mr cagey is a prime example. He assesses if a motoriet has deliberately obstructed him, judges him/her, and administers punishment... Kicking his/her car. This is an example of your typical 3ntitled biker

What if the motorist made a henuine error?

That genuine error could kill the biker so the car driver would be at fault, making them as dangerous, if not more so, than the bikers you're demonising.

So if your husband cuts me up im entitled to vandalise his bike? "

No. People can pass others, cars and bikes can pass. Bikes don’t pass cars in a way that causes the car to crash. When someone’s car drives a bike off the road that’s a hell of a lot different to passing a vehicle.

You need to get your blood pressure checked.

You’re not listening to experienced bikers explaining the dangerous behaviour of entitled car drivers contributing to the behaviour of bikers.

Cars don’t let bikes pass, literally don’t. They box them in, at a passing speed this makes riders fall off and potentially die. If that wouldn’t make you angry, there’s something wrong with you, if you’ve never ridden a motorcycle you may not understand the danger car drivers create even for the most cautious and attentive motorcyclist

Also- you’re no more entitled to the road. Just be an attentive driver, don’t be a twat and you really shouldn’t have an issue. The bikes do make a loud vroom Sound but that doesn’t indicate dangerous or inattentive driving.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To solve the issues we should ban everyone from the road but me

Aww that’d be bliss!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"OP please come to my, or any for that matter, local bike night and present your views to the crowd. There will be plenty of people waiting to ‘talk’ to you about them! "

Lawless yobs you mean. Id look forward to them being in the dock in a proper court of law, explaining why they're so entitled.

The same people whod live a longer life, off bikes and be law abiding citizens

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By *llNatural36FWoman
over a year ago

Denbighshire

What a load of nonsense, I've never met somebody who is dangerous on a bike, I can think of a few drivers that need banning on the other hand.

Your post is judgemental and wrong op, you should learn not to tar everybody and judge them

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"To solve the issues we should ban everyone from the road but me

Aww that’d be bliss!! "

But are you a biker?

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By *eeleyWoman
over a year ago

Dudley


"Ok, there's lots of posts all arguing different points

Lets get to the basics.

We all use the roads. Different vehicles, in particular motorbikes, appeal to the adventurous who enjoy the thrill of riding them which conflicts with safety.

Also, these types of people gang together in groups, potentially racing each other and ganging up on others deemed suitable to have their door mirrors kicked off, possibly for the same perceived crime bikers do all the time but admonish themselves because theyre bikers and superior to other road users.

That is my argument for banning 2 and 3 wheeled motor vehicles.

The same dangerous antics sre seen by bicycle riders but because they're pedal powered don't pose a danger to the same extent

Or they’re loads of humans who use a cheaper mode of transport and don’t ride in gangs at all.

These types of people encompass everything from teachers to solicitors and many are parents and upstanding citizens, just like users of other motor vehicles.

Sports cars appeal to drivers who want speed are they dangerous? Is being adventurous in and of itself indicative of danger? I’m 45 and a mother and the only thing dangerous about me on a motorbike is the other cars. Mr Cagey is 45 and only kicks cars when they try to run him off the road for being entitled twats who don’t believe bikes are allowed to pass. Get over yourself.

Your assuming i obstruct bikes?

Mr cagey is a prime example. He assesses if a motoriet has deliberately obstructed him, judges him/her, and administers punishment... Kicking his/her car. This is an example of your typical 3ntitled biker

What if the motorist made a henuine error?

That genuine error could kill the biker so the car driver would be at fault, making them as dangerous, if not more so, than the bikers you're demonising.

So if your husband cuts me up im entitled to vandalise his bike? "

You've just completely ignored my point.

You literally have no valid argument for banning motorbikes, a small minority of bikers are dickheads, I see far more dangerous car drivers!

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