FabSwingers.com forum: Bisexuality duality

By *aeBabe OP Woman
over a year ago

London

Hi all,

So I'm a bisexual woman who plays with both bi and straight men. It feels like (not just on fab) female bisexuality is more widely accepted than male bisexuality. If you look at the majority of single lady profiles and couple profiles the lady is bi or bi-curious and the male half is straight. I've met some guys who say they are straight on their profile yet have played with men. When I've asked them about this, it's to not scare away other couples or ladies. I mean, is that even fair? Women can be Bi and men can't?

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By *igJandTheBlondeCouple
over a year ago

Kings Hill

Apparently bi men can’t be trusted with their sexual health or keep their hands off straight men during a meet!!!

**sits back with a coffee to watch

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By *harliebbwWoman
over a year ago

Birmingham

my other half has straight on his yet have played with men.

once to dip his toe as be believes you shouldn't knock it till you have tried it. since this experiment he's decided it's not really his cup of tea. so though he has history still says he's straight

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By *iguysMan
over a year ago

clayton le woods

"Apparently bi men can’t be trusted with their sexual health or keep their hands off straight men during a meet!!!

**sits back with a coffee to watch

Totally agree, we are all sexually unsafe and can't wait to grab a straight mans cock.... makes you wonder how so many of us survive, well the openly bi ones anyway lol

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

Plenty of 'fab straight' contact me, when I tell them I don't meet straight guys, I'm bi really but I have to put straight on my profile, they say.

So all of those women and couples who believe the guy who's playing with them is fully straight can't be really sure.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

On fab and the wider world different behaviours are acceptable and expected from men and women.

I don't know if fair is the right word to use because most of the bias is unconscious. It's widely assumed that all men get turned on by seeing women being sexual with each other but considered unusual if women are wroused by seeing men together, neither is correct. Nor is the assumption that bi men are less careful with their sexual health, I'd say couples are the least careful from my experience. But these attitudes and assumptions persist, I wonder if it's because most people think bi and gay sex has to include anal and they associate that with STI.

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By *hyandtwistedCouple
over a year ago

loughborough

The preference we have on profile is how we play on a meet, we used to have bi down and profile text saying there's no male bi play. But people don't read that, so we just changed it.

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By *anther81Man
over a year ago

Drogheda

Yeah have struggled with this a bit and have changed profile status from straight to bi and back again. Do get different reactions depending on what’s on my profile.

When straight maybe on a forum you say something you like about guys and somebody will say “you profile says straight mate”

Then when you have Bi seems majority of profiles say no bi males or you get gay/bi looking for a straight guy.

Also agree feel like bi females seem much more accepted and almost expected. (Although as I am not one perhaps this is not true)

Understand this is not the end of the world stuff but is a bit annoying.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

I’m bi but I don’t suddenly feel the need to grab every woman I meet.

I play with bi guys and yes there’s a stigma. I blocked a couple that I’d met and played with after they had a status saying they wouldn’t play with bi girls that played with bi guys.

What happened to equal rights? Seems like Fab needs a Pride weekend to make people aware that everyone should be treated the same.

Bi females are put on a pedestal and almost revered and called unicorns whereas bi males are treated completely the opposite. I don’t really see why there’s such a difference in attitude and it really has to stop.

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By *aeBabe OP Woman
over a year ago

London

"I’m bi but I don’t suddenly feel the need to grab every woman I meet.

I play with bi guys and yes there’s a stigma. I blocked a couple that I’d met and played with after they had a status saying they wouldn’t play with bi girls that played with bi guys.

What happened to equal rights? Seems like Fab needs a Pride weekend to make people aware that everyone should be treated the same.

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By *adyJayneWoman
over a year ago

Burnleyish (She/They)

Yey patriarchy! (Yes I'm being sarcastic).

It's not just on fab it's a stigma and problem in the wider world.

While there are a group of people who say it's down to health reasons it's generational misogyny and homophobia.

Men who are bi are some how 'less of a man' I've even seen women spout such nonsense on fab as a reason why they won't play with men.

Women's bisexuality is acceptable on similar misogynistic lines, after all, how many men do you know that love to watch two women together (for their amusent obviously), in fact it's not that long ago two women were beaten on a bus because they wouldn't put on a show for a bunch of boys...

Anyone who says we don't still need feminism is a straight, white, cis gendered man.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bi woman have always been socially acceptable. I think the whole stigma of being a bi man stems from the time it would be classed as a criminal act. There was not many places were men could meet and public toilets would be places for guys to meet in NSA fun. Police would conduct intrapment operations and notify the local Newspapers when they had arrested someone. The newspapers would publish the incidents in a derogotive and demeaning language which was intended to bring shame of the individual and try to deter such acts. Also men's masculinity would be brought into question, especially since most of the populations perception of gay man was through the media and such high profile openly gay men tended to be camp and guys did not want to be associated with that trait and therefore kept their sexuality hidden. (May be this says more about me!)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Works both ways though we lose lots of meets because mrs is straight. The amount of couples who ask things like 'oh your straight but you still lick pussy, right?' Er no shes straight

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think a lot of women and couples just see us single bi-men as people who are desperate enough to play with anything so cant be trusted,i have bi- on my profile because a few couples have said they only chat with/meet guys who actually say they are bi-on their profile.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Works both ways though we lose lots of meets because mrs is straight. The amount of couples who ask things like 'oh your straight but you still lick pussy, right?' Er no shes straight

that has happened to us. I've found that some bi women are very aggressive, we won't meet couples where the woman is bi now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve put bi on my profile because I am! I adore women but like playing with men and being played with, I emotionally like women and I’m attracted to them, men not so, I just enjoy same sex fun sometimes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am the same way mate,i find women attractive for their looks and their personality and mutual attraction,with men its just sex and play.Think its best that way anyway,dont want to meet a couple and the guy find me more attractive then her lol

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

"Works both ways though we lose lots of meets because mrs is straight. The amount of couples who ask things like 'oh your straight but you still lick pussy, right?' Er no shes straight

that has happened to us. I've found that some bi women are very aggressive, we won't meet couples where the woman is bi now."

There are lovely bi women who aren’t aggressive. Maybe don’t write them off completely.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

Think things may have become a little more settled now for bi guys, but when I used to go to clubs more often, bisexuality for women was positively encouraged and almost an expectation.

BIsexuality in males was pushed into dark corners at best or kicked out of the club if they received a complaint about two men getting overly familiar.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am the same way mate,i find women attractive for their looks and their personality and mutual attraction,with men its just sex and play.Think its best that way anyway,dont want to meet a couple and the guy find me more attractive then her lol"

Perfectly put.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Straight, bi, tried them both. Did either improve my chances? Nope.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Works both ways though we lose lots of meets because mrs is straight. The amount of couples who ask things like 'oh your straight but you still lick pussy, right?' Er no shes straight

that has happened to us. I've found that some bi women are very aggressive, we won't meet couples where the woman is bi now.

There are lovely bi women who aren’t aggressive. Maybe don’t write them off completely."

I know there are but it happened too often for me. I have no problem with anybody's sexual preferences.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our favourite are the women who are bi but won't play with bi guys

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I think alot of straight Male / bi-female couples are here really for the Male's 3 some fantasy, they may on occasion want to share their female with another man, but they certainly wouldn't want to do that with "some poofta who might look at my cock".. you know the type, we've all met them.

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By *rufinWoman
over a year ago

notts

There is another stigma for bi women ... performative bi ... where it is only acceptable with a male audience, either in the room, or to be talked about afterwards (not saying that's not fun too

I'm also always cautious at first in case there is reluctance there in 3sums - a straight woman feeling she has to 'play bi'.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"There is another stigma for bi women ... performative bi ... where it is only acceptable with a male audience, either in the room, or to be talked about afterwards (not saying that's not fun too

I'm also always cautious at first in case there is reluctance there in 3sums - a straight woman feeling she has to 'play bi'. "

This.

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

"Works both ways though we lose lots of meets because mrs is straight. The amount of couples who ask things like 'oh your straight but you still lick pussy, right?' Er no shes straight

I agree here ,

We have chatted to couples who then suddenly realise i am straight and don"t want to meet once they know there will be no girly play.

Most couples in our updates want a bi fem ,so i think it definitely goes against us.

Miss

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Works both ways though we lose lots of meets because mrs is straight. The amount of couples who ask things like 'oh your straight but you still lick pussy, right?' Er no shes straight

I agree here ,

We have chatted to couples who then suddenly realise i am straight and don"t want to meet once they know there will be no girly play.

Most couples in our updates want a bi fem ,so i think it definitely goes against us.

Miss"

Dont you think that would go against in the opposite way too.

What I mean is a couple agree to go with a couple because the fem is bi because what they are really after is a threesome but bi fem is more readily available with a couple.

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple
over a year ago

Halifax

"Works both ways though we lose lots of meets because mrs is straight. The amount of couples who ask things like 'oh your straight but you still lick pussy, right?' Er no shes straight

I agree here ,

We have chatted to couples who then suddenly realise i am straight and don"t want to meet once they know there will be no girly play.

Most couples in our updates want a bi fem ,so i think it definitely goes against us.

Miss

Dont you think that would go against in the opposite way too.

What I mean is a couple agree to go with a couple because the fem is bi because what they are really after is a threesome but bi fem is more readily available with a couple.

Very possibly

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People are happy to play almost any way with me when Im wearing a dress.

When I take off the dress I might as well be toxic waste if I mention the 'b' word. As has been mentioned earlier in the thread I think there is the concern that bisexual men are unable to 'play straight'.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Our favourite are the women who are bi but won't play with bi guys "

I have seen bi women openly state this on previous discussions, it amazes me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Our favourite are the women who are bi but won't play with bi guys

I have seen bi women openly state this on previous discussions, it amazes me "

That's me I'm a hypocrite

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think alot of straight Male / bi-female couples are here really for the Male's 3 some fantasy, they may on occasion want to share their female with another man, but they certainly wouldn't want to do that with "some poofta who might look at my cock".. you know the type, we've all met them. "

Usually the woman is pretend bi for her man. She closes her eyes while the woman licks her pussy then won't touch the other woman at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Our favourite are the women who are bi but won't play with bi guys "

Why? Being bi doesn't mean they will fuck everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Our favourite are the women who are bi but won't play with bi guys

Why? Being bi doesn't mean they will fuck everyone.

I do not think that was the point exactly...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Deleted long and yawny post. Each to their own.

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By *igJandTheBlondeCouple
over a year ago

Kings Hill

Usually the woman is pretend bi for her man. She closes her eyes while the woman licks her pussy then won't touch the other woman at all. "

Who rattled her rusty pussycat!?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Our favourite are the women who are bi but won't play with bi guys

Why? Being bi doesn't mean they will fuck everyone.

I do not think that was the point exactly..."

Yeah it seems to be the thing. End of day preference is preference but we do still get those women sometimes winking us which tickles us no end and we politely decline them. Don't need that in our sex life.

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By *ikilovesCCouple
over a year ago

village life, closest main town inverness

"I’m bi but I don’t suddenly feel the need to grab every woman I meet.

I play with bi guys and yes there’s a stigma. I blocked a couple that I’d met and played with after they had a status saying they wouldn’t play with bi girls that played with bi guys.

What happened to equal rights? Seems like Fab needs a Pride weekend to make people aware that everyone should be treated the same.

Great post

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

"Our favourite are the women who are bi but won't play with bi guys

I have seen bi women openly state this on previous discussions, it amazes me

That's me I'm a hypocrite

I don't necessarily agree that it's hypocritical to be a bi woman and not play with bi men, it's like assuming that all aspects of LGBTQ+ all get on and have a good natter about 'straights'. Sexual preference is still as relevant, it's what that choice is based upon that is the stresser and could potentially be hypocritical.

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By *ea monkeyMan
over a year ago

Manchester (he/him)

As a blanket response to the OP; the prospect of bi guys on fab has been and will continue to be a thorny issue for many folks.

Much as some like and enjoy it, many don't.

There is a huge imbalance in the acceptance and expectation of a lady to be bisexual against that of a man. The reasons are many, varied and I could probably write a thesis on it and still leave things out.

Are bi men subject to stigma and biphobia? Yes. Is there anything that can be done? Yes! As ridiculous as it may seem I take a stand, I'm bi, I'm not dirty, I'm not effeminate, I'm masculine and I find men and women attractive. I challenge negative opinions, stigma and preconceptions when I see them with grace, understanding and respect.

It may make me sound like some form of activist, I'm really not, I just believe that everyone, irrespective of their gender assignation, sexuality or race should be respected. That includes me.

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By *igJandTheBlondeCouple
over a year ago

Kings Hill

"As a blanket response to the OP; the prospect of bi guys on fab has been and will continue to be a thorny issue for many folks.

Much as some like and enjoy it, many don't.

It may make me sound like some form of activist, I'm really not, I just believe that everyone, irrespective of their gender assignation, sexuality or race should be respected. That includes me. "

Couldn’t have written or said it better!

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

"As a blanket response to the OP; the prospect of bi guys on fab has been and will continue to be a thorny issue for many folks.

Much as some like and enjoy it, many don't.

It may make me sound like some form of activist, I'm really not, I just believe that everyone, irrespective of their gender assignation, sexuality or race should be respected. That includes me.

Couldn’t have written or said it better!

Second that

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By *iboy1968Man
over a year ago

cramlington

"Apparently bi men can’t be trusted with their sexual health or keep their hands off straight men during a meet!!!

**sits back with a coffee to watch

Dead right every bi guy wants to corrupt a straight guy

Said no one ever

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Apparently bi men can’t be trusted with their sexual health or keep their hands off straight men during a meet!!!

**sits back with a coffee to watch

Dead right every bi guy wants to corrupt a straight guy

Said no one ever "

I once tried to play straight during a meet, and i actually caught fire! Maybe these people do have point after all, and aren't just closet homophobes...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think that this attitude is called hypocrisy...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Calling people hypocritical or homophobic for not wanting to fuck bi guys just proves they made the right decision.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Usually the woman is pretend bi for her man. She closes her eyes while the woman licks her pussy then won't touch the other woman at all.

Who rattled her rusty pussycat!?!

Pillow princess.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Bi men who think ladies will turn them down for saying they’re bi keep the straight label. They miss out on ones that actively seek bi men and might be pissed off when they discover the alleged straight man was bi after all.

It’s no big deal. *looks down* definitely no big deal...

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By *r BrightonMan
over a year ago

brighton

I put bi on my profile as that’s what i am and i beleive honesty is the best policy but that does not get you very far on fab but I’m holding out for genuine honest people like me x

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By *hedireCouple
over a year ago

wigan

We suspect many couples profiles with a bi or bi curious female are male wishlists particularly when they frequently post a status 'male only playing' . Those saying no bi guys we just block immediately. Homophobia is not for us.

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By *anni and RicCouple
over a year ago

York

"People are happy to play almost any way with me when Im wearing a dress.

You know we love you more without the dress though right? Xxx

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

I'd be much happier to meet a guy who is openly bi or curious than a straight man who clearly likes cock much more than I do, who exactly do they think they are kidding.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People are happy to play almost any way with me when Im wearing a dress.

You know we love you more without the dress though right? Xxx"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I much prefer the female sex but I do like playing with a nice cock and to be honest, a nice bj is a nice bj if your eyes are closed.

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By *ulgehunterMan
over a year ago

yorkshire

"I'd be much happier to meet a guy who is openly bi or curious than a straight man who clearly likes cock much more than I do, who exactly do they think they are kidding."
lol

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By *oney to the beeWoman
over a year ago

Manchester

I don't see what the fuss is about men can be bi if they want to be its their choice as is the choice for people not to meet bi men if they don't want to.

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By *iscreet gent2018Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"I don't see what the fuss is about men can be bi if they want to be its their choice as is the choice for people not to meet bi men if they don't want to."

Well said!

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"I don't see what the fuss is about men can be bi if they want to be its their choice as is the choice for people not to meet bi men if they don't want to."

Exactly! Can you imagine anyone posting a thread like this regarding female bisexuality?

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By *eith28Man
over a year ago

uxbridge

Labels labels labels. Go with the flow do things you like don’t do thinks you do t like. Agree boundaries and everyone is happy.

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By *oinfc188Man
over a year ago

Dublin

I struggled with this in the past before my first bisexual experience - I feared if/when I sucked a guy's cock I could only label myself as bisexual/gay. I had my first bi experience and nothing major had changed - I just sucked a cock and enjoyed it.

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By *anana JoeMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"I don't see what the fuss is about men can be bi if they want to be its their choice as is the choice for people not to meet bi men if they don't want to."

I think that's the most valid thing said people have choice I worry at times people think you shouldn't have the right to decline me.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"I struggled with this in the past before my first bisexual experience - I feared if/when I sucked a guy's cock I could only label myself as bisexual/gay. I had my first bi experience and nothing major had changed - I just sucked a cock and enjoyed it. "

Exactly! I tried pasta once, doesn't make me Italian

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"As a blanket response to the OP; the prospect of bi guys on fab has been and will continue to be a thorny issue for many folks.

Much as some like and enjoy it, many don't.

It may make me sound like some form of activist, I'm really not, I just believe that everyone, irrespective of their gender assignation, sexuality or race should be respected. That includes me. "

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By *aeBabe OP Woman
over a year ago

London

"Hi all,

Bisexuality of women is more widely accepted than male bisexuality. I don't really care if you meet bi men or not to be honest, I'm just curious as to why there is the stigma for one sex and glorified for the other. This goes beyond fab and is also something talked about in the LGBTQ community.

So all those angry posts of "I can meet who I like you can't tell me who I can fuck" can all calm down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On Fab it's probably just supply and demand. There's a huge amount of men vying for the attention of a much smaller amount of women. If even a fraction of those women don't want to meet bisexual men (for whatever reason) then the odds of a bisexual man getting a meet would be drastically cut so for many it makes sense to play straight until they want to do otherwise.

As for the wider world outside the site, it probably has a lot to do with the increased spread of porn. Bisexuality in women, and being able to enjoy two women at the same time has been a male fantasy probably for at least as long as anyone can remember. However bisexuality in men is not such a widely held fantasy (to my knowledge) or is at least not as publicly accepted, and most likely still carries a lot of the stigma of the gay-STI correlation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree that a lot of ladys on fab say they will not meet bi men period...but as a bi man i get messages from the very men that are on the said females profile veris...and also if you dig a little deeper you will the same men on mens veris so best to be honest in my opinion as the others arent...

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I get a few messages from wives asking if they can watch me and their husband

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Very good post OP

I am Bisexual, clean, DF, always guided by my males partners directions and always also use the sister site Fabguys.

My turn from straight to Bi, was down the swinging scene due to the fact my first wife was/is Bi and along our sexual jounrney we met with many couples and attended many arrange sex partys, it was enevitabel that as your dick was flying around, it would touch other men, occasionally it would get touched and being egged on by wife to play, one thing led to another. - I realised within months , I was probably Bi - the rest is history

Has for those who appear to be disgusted at us Bi men - I have met and pissed off more dirtier, smellier, filthier straight men at arranged meets than I have ever other fellow Bi men

JP … sits back and waits for the fall out

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By *igJandTheBlondeCouple
over a year ago

Kings Hill

"Very good post OP

I am Bisexual, clean, DF, always guided by my males partners directions and always also use the sister site Fabguys.

Has for those who appear to be disgusted at us Bi men - I have met and pissed off more dirtier, smellier, filthier straight men at arranged meets than I have ever other fellow Bi men

JP … sits back and waits for the fall out

Well said JP

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By *ethRyanCouple
over a year ago

Preston

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting arguments but slagging off one group to try and persuade people to accept your group is better is a little pathetic. People meet who they want to if they don't want to meet bi men then that's their choice not yours so walk on leave them be.

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

ust read forum and wondered if the male has bi curious on a couples profile does it reduces their chances of meeting people.

We list bi curious on our profile for me as mrs b has a fantasy to see me and another guy playing to be fair i'd love to see her with another woman so fares fare. Am very secure in my sexuality so do not feel it makes me less of a man

I do not fancy men and never have even when playing rugby lol there was never an attraction to any of the other players. But am interested is trying all that may be on offer with the exception of the 3 p's or anything illegal is that wrong

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"ust read forum and wondered if the male has bi curious on a couples profile does it reduces their chances of meeting people.

I don't think doing something that's considered bi actually makes you bi. I ate pasta once but it didn't make me Italian

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By *rsbrooksandjohnCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

I appreciate that. Lol

But we put it on our profile to show our openness and intentions if that makes sense?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"I appreciate that. Lol

But we put it on our profile to show our openness and intentions if that makes sense? "

Makes perfect sense fella

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By *ensual -lover69Man
over a year ago

Blackburn

"Apparently bi men can’t be trusted with their sexual health or keep their hands off straight men during a meet!!!

**sits back with a coffee to watch

Being Bi or gay doesn't mean we shag everything that moves,99.09% must be attracted before sex

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Apparently bi men can’t be trusted with their sexual health or keep their hands off straight men during a meet!!!

**sits back with a coffee to watch

Being Bi or gay doesn't mean we shag everything that moves,99.09% must be attracted before sex"

I think the poster was just playing devils advocate

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By *aeBabe OP Woman
over a year ago

London

"Interesting arguments but slagging off one group to try and persuade people to accept your group is better is a little pathetic. People meet who they want to if they don't want to meet bi men then that's their choice not yours so walk on leave them be. "

Very right. This is not a post intended to fight or hurt other groups but rather understand the social stigmas regarding the biases of bisexuality for men and women. A lot have touched on the point of different factors that influence female bisexuality being more "accepted" and I supposed hypersexualised for hetero men e.g. in movies two attractive women kissing in front of a man to entice and seduce him.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well put

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By *ing CobraaMan
over a year ago

Kings Lynn

Honestly never had any problems being bi

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"Honestly never had any problems being bi

Nope me either to be honest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd be much happier to meet a guy who is openly bi or curious than a straight man who clearly likes cock much more than I do, who exactly do they think they are kidding."

You!!!!

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By *itguy21066Man
over a year ago

leicester

So here’s the thing, if any of my mates had a Mrs who was bi, everyone of us would def think that guy was so lucky! If any of the lads owned up to being bisexual the atmosphere would change massively to being very negative towards him and I would guarantee there would be loads of chatting behind their backs, that’s why I would never make it known, I like to play with a certain type of guy

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

"So here’s the thing, if any of my mates had a Mrs who was bi, everyone of us would def think that guy was so lucky! If any of the lads owned up to being bisexual the atmosphere would change massively to being very negative towards him and I would guarantee there would be loads of chatting behind their backs, that’s why I would never make it known, I like to play with a certain type of guy "

My point exactly

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Interesting thread and it's undeniable there is still a stigma against bi men in the swinging scene - you only have to look at the fact that at most clubs male bisexual activity is frowned on at all but specified bi nights, yet female bisexuality is positively encouraged on any night for evidence of that.

Personally my bisexuality (which is only "out" on here) has never caused me any real problems - the odd homophobic comment on threads is probably the worst I have suffered.

As for it being a block to meets etc, my experience (backed up by a recent forum poll) is that those that won't meet bi men are actually in the minority - most people either aren't bothered in the slightest by it, or actively seek it.

But there still is a general stigma round it and I suspect that may be partly down to some bisexual men themselves who make a great deal of noise about people not meeting them because they are bisexual.

However, in the swinging world at least, until bisexual male activity is welcomed at clubs on any given night the stigma will remain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Our favourite are the women who are bi but won't play with bi guys

I have seen bi women openly state this on previous discussions, it amazes me

That's me I'm a hypocrite

It's not hypocritical. It's homophobic/biphobic is what it is!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Our favourite are the women who are bi but won't play with bi guys

I have seen bi women openly state this on previous discussions, it amazes me

That's me I'm a hypocrite

It's not hypocritical. It's homophobic/biphobic is what it is!"

It's crap like this that puts me right off bi men.

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough

Never had any problems with being bi on here

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

This describes our situation with the exception that Debs is bi and I've seen her with other women loads of times. If people don't want to play with us because I have bi-curious on our profile then that's great as we want to play with people that think the way we do

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

I should add that if straight men message us telling us they are really bi then I just tell them they will have to suck my cock to turn Debs on before they get to touch her*. Funnily enough some of them just vanish

*They don't really but it sorts the chancers out

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

Why cant guys just be honest about it ffs !! I'm openly bi and love cock as well as appreciating the female form too . Easy really

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By *aeBabe OP Woman
over a year ago

London

"Why cant guys just be honest about it ffs !! I'm openly bi and love cock as well as appreciating the female form too . Easy really

Social stigma

Seen as less masculine

Straight male halves of couples scared they'll catch the ghey

Women unsure if they like the idea of men playing with men

Women bisexuality encouraged at clubs or parties yet only heterosex for men

I don't know, a number of reasons. I'm only openly bi on here my mother would disown me if she knew...

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By *ung_londonMan
over a year ago

London

My way of looking at this currently is that there are some people who see fab as more of a science with objective rules that need unambiguous language and policing of inconsistencies. And others who see it as more of an art - a game where the rules are never quite clear and language and identity may shift. I can see good arguments for both - one group gets annoyed at ‘liars’ and ‘fakes’ and rightly asks how to find trust. The other group wants to have fun - and maybe explore new territory- without the potential risks (or self examination) of revealing their hand completely. There is inevitably a conflict between those approaches as the forums regularly show. It would be a shame I think for either group to be driven away entirely - but it’s always going to create friction that both types of approach exist on here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve been on here bi and straight ,guys will find you ,cpls are another matter I think to a lot ,it’s a fantasy but won’t fulfil it and most women don’t see mm as a turn on a men see ff .

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan
over a year ago

Den of Iniquity

"Why cant guys just be honest about it ffs !! I'm openly bi and love cock as well as appreciating the female form too . Easy really

Social stigma

Seen as less masculine

Straight male halves of couples scared they'll catch the ghey

Women unsure if they like the idea of men playing with men

Women bisexuality encouraged at clubs or parties yet only heterosex for men

I don't know, a number of reasons. I'm only openly bi on here my mother would disown me if she knew...

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That's what I meant too, nobody outside of fab knows, and that's the way its staying

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By *umslaveTV/TS
over a year ago

Sheffield

I'm not ashamed to be bisexual and I don't think the fab straight men on here should be either. The amount of times I've had the message 'but I am bi mate'. I'm certain that the couple's on here who won't meet hi men would be shocked by how often men with straight on their profile contact me. It's prob an 80straight/20bi split. I will never meet a straight man on here as they are a) lying about this so what else are they comfortable to lie about? And b) if they can't admit who they are then that's not very attractive is it?

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By *ensual -lover69Man
over a year ago

Blackburn

"Honestly never had any problems being bi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s not feminism we need, it’s equality.

The problem with the word feminism is that it is itself gender biased (IMO) plus it means lots of different things to lots of different people. Those who are anti it can easily pick examples of ‘feminist’ viewpoints that are downright anti-men and use this to dismiss the whole movement. Equally not all women agree on how they want to be treated by men nor treat men with equality.

As you say the problem is as much with women as with men - not unusual to see a female profile with something along the lines of ‘I like real men so don’t meet with bi curious/sexual men’ despite being themselves bisexual and (presumably) thinking of themselves as ‘real’ women.

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By *ensual -lover69Man
over a year ago

Blackburn

"It’s not feminism we need, it’s equality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

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me too in droves

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

me too in droves

They’d be more successful saying they were happy to meet bi guys and then only meet the ones who say they won’t do bi play when asked

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By *ing_Wookie_RodeoMan
over a year ago

stockport wasteland

In clubs and with the odd friend ill play if the woman hasn't even it I'll play with a fella but play is all foreplay but I have straight on my profile because go a lot of gay sex party invites and even the woman that started me swinging said she wouldn't play until I pointed out that she was pat the reason I got my dick sucked off the bloke. But now I openly admit what I do and wont

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By *ing_Wookie_RodeoMan
over a year ago

stockport wasteland

"In clubs and with the odd friend ill play if the woman hasn't even it I'll play with a fella but play is all foreplay but I have straight on my profile because go a lot of gay sex party invites and even the woman that started me swinging said she wouldn't play until I pointed out that she was pat the reason I got my dick sucked off the bloke. But now I openly admit what I do and wont"
and I don't touch blokes unless it is said before hand he's open to that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I used to lie and put straight on my profile due to the number of "no bi guys" on profiles. Since changing it to Bi I've had far more contact from single ladies and have met some corkers, it initially astonished me that there are real girls who get off on the idea of 2 guys together and im loving the openness. It always amazes me the number of fab straight guys who contact me for cock fun....all of which get turned down

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

I’ve seen some profiles that say ‘no bi men’ which is perfectly reasonable but when you see a veri from a guy who has had sex with a man, then it’s a bit rich.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

I’ve seen some profiles that say ‘no bi men’ which is perfectly reasonable but when you see a veri from a guy who has had sex with a man, then it’s a bit rich. "

Threads like this always prove that bi men lie to get a fuck. It's no wonder people don't want to meet them.

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By *iglittleoneMan
over a year ago

B76 is home

I don't fancy men in the slightest but I like to look at cocks especially if a woman has one in her hand or mouth.

If I'm being totally honest I would love a couple to both give me oral at the same time and I would masterbate him if it was a reasonable size. My profile say 'bi curious'.

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By *bione_1Man
over a year ago

Broxbourne

Ive played with few guys now but would like to try more fun with both.

Ive been waiting to meet a couple to take it a stage further.

So i class myself as.

Curious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m openly bi. On my profile. It isn’t the reason I find it difficult to get meets.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

I’ve seen some profiles that say ‘no bi men’ which is perfectly reasonable but when you see a veri from a guy who has had sex with a man, then it’s a bit rich.

Threads like this always prove that bi men lie to get a fuck. It's no wonder people don't want to meet them. "

That’s rather a broad generalisation but you’re wrong. It’s doesn’t ‘always prove’, it ‘sometimes indicates’.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

I’ve seen some profiles that say ‘no bi men’ which is perfectly reasonable but when you see a veri from a guy who has had sex with a man, then it’s a bit rich.

Threads like this always prove that bi men lie to get a fuck. It's no wonder people don't want to meet them.

That’s rather a broad generalisation but you’re wrong. It’s doesn’t ‘always prove’, it ‘sometimes indicates’. "

Men and tv's love to brag about how they've met many many men who claim to be straight.

It's clearly not 'some' who lie. It's most.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

*yawn*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been thinking how comfortable I would be coming out as bi to firneds and a few trusted colleagues.

But after some thought and being reminded that even gays and lesbian people make stereotyped assumptions about bi men I've chosen not to.

I certainly don't fit the stereotype and am in no rush to meet other men. However I don't think anyone would class me as someone interested in both sexes by the way I behave in everyday life. But I much prefer to be more honest with people than I can now.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

I’ve seen some profiles that say ‘no bi men’ which is perfectly reasonable but when you see a veri from a guy who has had sex with a man, then it’s a bit rich.

Threads like this always prove that bi men lie to get a fuck. It's no wonder people don't want to meet them. "

What...and you think straight guys dont lie? Thst some women dont lie?

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

I’ve seen some profiles that say ‘no bi men’ which is perfectly reasonable but when you see a veri from a guy who has had sex with a man, then it’s a bit rich.

Threads like this always prove that bi men lie to get a fuck. It's no wonder people don't want to meet them.

That’s rather a broad generalisation but you’re wrong. It’s doesn’t ‘always prove’, it ‘sometimes indicates’.

Men and tv's love to brag about how they've met many many men who claim to be straight.

It's clearly not 'some' who lie. It's most."

How many have lied to you? Where are getting this from?

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By *aysolCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

"I've been thinking how comfortable I would be coming out as bi to firneds and a few trusted colleagues.

But after some thought and being reminded that even gays and lesbian people make stereotyped assumptions about bi men I've chosen not to.

Thats really sad. As a bi man I completely understand and still havent come out to everyone

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By *aysolCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

I’ve seen some profiles that say ‘no bi men’ which is perfectly reasonable but when you see a veri from a guy who has had sex with a man, then it’s a bit rich.

Threads like this always prove that bi men lie to get a fuck. It's no wonder people don't want to meet them.

That’s rather a broad generalisation but you’re wrong. It’s doesn’t ‘always prove’, it ‘sometimes indicates’.

Men and tv's love to brag about how they've met many many men who claim to be straight.

It's clearly not 'some' who lie. It's most.

How many have lied to you? Where are getting this from?"

Maybe the only reason bi men lie to get laid is because of all the biphobia from women. I don't agree with lying, but men never turn down women because they are bi, so why do women turn down bi men so often? I'm pretty sure its due to steriotypes and phobia.

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By *he James gangCouple
over a year ago

NEWTOWNABBEY

"I’m bi but I don’t suddenly feel the need to grab every woman I meet.

I play with bi guys and yes there’s a stigma. I blocked a couple that I’d met and played with after they had a status saying they wouldn’t play with bi girls that played with bi guys.

What happened to equal rights? Seems like Fab needs a Pride weekend to make people aware that everyone should be treated the same.

Well said that woman, couldn't agree more.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

I’ve seen some profiles that say ‘no bi men’ which is perfectly reasonable but when you see a veri from a guy who has had sex with a man, then it’s a bit rich.

Threads like this always prove that bi men lie to get a fuck. It's no wonder people don't want to meet them. "

Many men on here struggle to get a meet. It’s not just the bi men who will tell you whatever you need to hear to agree to fuck them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"On fab and the wider world different behaviours are acceptable and expected from men and women.

I think your being to subtle..

Lets just get it out their.. The stigma is all related to HIV and aids..

Bi men are un-clean, un-save and spread HIV.. That is the whole straight person or couples world of fear.. though peopke may denie it. That is the stigma...

!! Its totally bullshit, of course!!

But decades media has tainted the perception of everyday people for life.. only now do younger generations move past it.

Mistress Amelia

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

I’ve seen some profiles that say ‘no bi men’ which is perfectly reasonable but when you see a veri from a guy who has had sex with a man, then it’s a bit rich.

Threads like this always prove that bi men lie to get a fuck. It's no wonder people don't want to meet them.

That’s rather a broad generalisation but you’re wrong. It’s doesn’t ‘always prove’, it ‘sometimes indicates’.

Men and tv's love to brag about how they've met many many men who claim to be straight.

It's clearly not 'some' who lie. It's most.

How many have lied to you? Where are getting this from?

Im the total opposite... i only tend to play with bi guys.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've now reached the point w i don't care, am I bi or bicurious? I don't know till I find out if I enjoy. If I am bi, am I a top or a bottom? If I'm in a couple scenario will I want to play with the man, not if he doesn't want and no if I don't want to. Too many labels, too many assumptions. I'm here to enjoy life and find out along the way x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And one last bit of rant, for al those who wish to judge especially men who think they are more manly I've done a long long time in the army and if you ever met me would find a person who was least likely to be bi.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

My profile clearly says im only looking for bi guys. It hapoens often but tonight i did rant at the guy who told me ( after telling him many times im not looking for straight guys) that i shouldn't be so picky, its bad i wont play with him just because

he was a straight guy and i should give him ago. Then questioned my preferences and why i like what i like it. When i asked about him wanting mff, well apparently thats different and its only normal lmao

Haha even if i wanted to answer the questions about why i like it i couldnt. I gave up asking myself the same thing years ago and now just go with and enjoy it!

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over a year ago

"My profile clearly says im only looking for bi guys. It hapoens often but tonight i did rant at the guy who told me ( after telling him many times im not looking for straight guys) that i shouldn't be so picky, its bad i wont play with him just because

Haha even if i wanted to answer the questions about why i like it i couldnt. I gave up asking myself the same thing years ago and now just go with and enjoy it!

This is where i get confused, sometimes on here i wish i was a woman then I here some of the crap you have to put up with and change my mind. I never knew I liked playing with cock till 18 months ago, still don't know why but like what i like but doesn't mean i want to suck every males cock.

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By *arl17Man
over a year ago

Central Portugal

"And one last bit of rant, for al those who wish to judge especially men who think they are more manly I've done a long long time in the army and if you ever met me would find a person who was least likely to be bi. "

What you said earlier and this

Not a rant as totally get it.. it’s just better to be honest in my view

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By *udistnorthantsMan
over a year ago

Desborough

On a positive side I had a rather nice bi mmmf on Thursday and was sucking two gorgeous cocks while the lady took pics...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Imagine; all those who say ‘no bi men’ and think they’re making a choice. Lol.

I’ve often seen they have veris from men I know are secretly bi.

I’ve seen some profiles that say ‘no bi men’ which is perfectly reasonable but when you see a veri from a guy who has had sex with a man, then it’s a bit rich.

Threads like this always prove that bi men lie to get a fuck. It's no wonder people don't want to meet them.

Many men on here struggle to get a meet. It’s not just the bi men who will tell you whatever you need to hear to agree to fuck them. "

I know. They will all lie to get a fuck.

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By *arex2Couple
over a year ago

Bradford

My sentiments exactly!

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By *ocoTemptationMan
over a year ago

london

"Interesting thread and it's undeniable there is still a stigma against bi men in the swinging scene - you only have to look at the fact that at most clubs male bisexual activity is frowned on at all but specified bi nights, yet female bisexuality is positively encouraged on any night for evidence of that.

Personally my bisexuality (which is only "out" on here) has never caused me any real problems - the odd homophobic comment on threads is probably the worst I have suffered.

However, in the swinging world at least, until bisexual male activity is welcomed at clubs on any given night the stigma will remain."

Well said

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By *arvest 84Man
over a year ago

SCAWBY, NEAR , BRIGG.

when i put a meet up on my profile for a lady or a couple , i get more men look at me than enyone else,

that must tell us all something, -----

that most men are bi but darent put it on there profille !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"when i put a meet up on my profile for a lady or a couple , i get more men look at me than enyone else,

that must tell us all something, -----

that most men are bi but darent put it on there profille !!!!"

Hundreds of women and couples could be looking too, but most view in stealth mode so you'd never know they'd looked.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

" I mean, is that even fair? Women can be Bi and men can't? "

Because so many people still consider anything other than heterosexuality to be a sign of weakness in a man.

It's changing, slowly, but the stigma lingers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm working on a social media thing, taking Ghengis onto YouTube. First five videos will be about me and my background. After that I'm covering all sorts of topics.

Bear with me, this isn't a plug, it's relevant to conversation.

Given my bisexuality and my experiences on Fab exploring it, I feel I can put a lot of these bisexual myths about men to bed.

Only.. I'm hanging back about being 100% open from the start, because I'd like to get maximum impact when I do admit it. Potentially wobble some female heads, given I am a masculine, blokey bloke and everyone just assumes I'm Straight.

I've invited a lot of my 'normal' friends into a Group that will support the channel. I felt like I owed it to my closest friends to 'Come out' Before they found out online.

Given I'm exforces, you can imagine the kinds of men some of my closest friends are...

Not a single one of them had a negative reaction about it. They had questions, like how did I cope in the Barracks with all the nakedness etc. But they just accepted my answer that I wasnt attracted to a single one of them in that way, because we were friends first and foremost.

The only negative reactions I've ever had have all come from women, which is odd, because on the whole I find them warmer, more accepting, more talkative and more emotionally intelligent. Only, us men are catching up with you now, we're starting to listen, beginning to talk and support one another.

Some of my closest friends in the Forum are other Bi Men who understand what it is we've been through coming to terms with our bisexuality.

Incidentally the nastiest, most vile hatred I've ever received online was by women, on here, when I made a Trans Profile out of curiosity. The Private messages I was sent by women was enough to bring a tear to the eye, on behalf of the Trans friends and Trans people I know on here.

If you won't even consider meeting me, simply because of my sexuality, then NO! We are not going to be friends, until you admit you're a wrong'un for holding that view. You have to take a stand at some point and that's mine. So I block pretty much any profile that states they wont meet people of certain sexualities. As well as many other 'Ist' remarks.

"Go take your face for a shit". Is my response to that view.

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By *orny twosome 69Couple
over a year ago

Norfolk

There is definitely a stigma about bi guys yet if you apply some.common sense and ground rules it can work. We are upfront about our status and really are only interested in those.so also.make.it clear that they are bi. Then we chat to see their approach towards bi play and finally a social before anything happens. Like anything there has to be chemistry for any fun to happen!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

An enlightening and brilliant post Ghengis, good luck with the channel.

Like you, I'd imagine a lot of my friends see me as very masculine and would never comprehend me being bisexual, even less so that occasionally I delve into the subservient side of bdsm as well!

All the best with your venture.

Dave

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"An enlightening and brilliant post Ghengis, good luck with the channel.

Like you, I'd imagine a lot of my friends see me as very masculine and would never comprehend me being bisexual, even less so that occasionally I delve into the subservient side of bdsm as well!

All the best with your venture.

Dave "

As do I Dave, I'm Switch.

Thankyou for the comment, it means a lot that you as a man feel that way.

Also cheers for the luck, I'm going to need it, im not the most natural on camera

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By *eltic KinkstersCouple
over a year ago

Manchester/Leeds

Some excellent posts on this (especially Tea Monkey, Gemini Man, and GhengisKhan).

The level of male biphobia on the site, and society generally, is staggering (even within the LGBTQ+ community at times). Preference is one thing, bigotry and bias (conscious or otherwise) is quite another.

There seem to be a myriad of assumptions being made about bi men; they lie, they'll have sex with anyone, they're not careful with their sexual health are just some of the comments on this post. I hate to break it to people but these could be true of anyone of any gender and any sexual orientation.

People should perhaps reflect on the assumptions that might be made about them for being on a swinging site before they make assumptions about other people.

It's hard for men to be open about their sexuality when they face such a huge stigma, a little kindness goes a long way....

Alex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some excellent posts on this (especially Tea Monkey, Gemini Man, and GhengisKhan).

People should perhaps reflect on the assumptions that might be made about them for being on a swinging site before they make assumptions about other people.

It's hard for men to be open about their sexuality when they face such a huge stigma, a little kindness goes a long way....

Alex "

You can add yourself to the list of sensible comments now Alex

Thankyou.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Let’s do a thread for bisexual men to be there and proud

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Let’s do a thread for bisexual men to be there and proud

Not another one

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By *eltic KinkstersCouple
over a year ago

Manchester/Leeds

"Let’s do a thread for bisexual men to be there and proud

Now that's a post we'd be following with interest

Alex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Some excellent posts on this (especially Tea Monkey, Gemini Man, and GhengisKhan).

People should perhaps reflect on the assumptions that might be made about them for being on a swinging site before they make assumptions about other people.

It's hard for men to be open about their sexuality when they face such a huge stigma, a little kindness goes a long way....

Alex "

Swingers lie and fuck around too.

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