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"Ps I bet the people in your veris feel great now " | |||
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"Ps I bet the people in your veris feel great now " | |||
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"Ps I bet the people in your veris feel great now
"Why would they not? I wouldn't have met them we're we not attracted to each other ! | |||
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"I've just got back from abroad and im referring to some of the females around the pool and beach you see, perfectly tanned, slim, flat stomachs, flawless skin, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, German, British, Oriental, African, Middle Eastern females " So basically any woman without love handles and 2 layers of mac’s Finest foundation  | |||
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"Ps I bet the people in your veris feel great now "Why would they not feel great, the meets I've had have been great | |||
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"I've just got back from abroad and im referring to some of the females around the pool and beach you see, perfectly tanned, slim, flat stomachs, flawless skin, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, German, British, Oriental, African, Middle Eastern females So basically any woman without love handles and 2 layers of mac’s Finest foundation "And false eyelashes and lips like Donald Duck | |||
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"I consider myself to be attractive, I know some very beautiful women. Everyone is the same under the skin and should never be judged on looks alone. Whether other people find me attractive is entirely up to their personal taste and something over which I have no control. I do know that high levels of confidence, self esteem and self belief are not welcome on fab or the wider community." Why would being confident and having high self esteem not be welcome?  | |||
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"Unfortunately I have never been with a female who I'd consider an absolute stunner, dont get me wrong I've had few lookers over the years but never Premier league. Do these flawless beautiful women taste the same? are they less willing to let themselves go sexually as Miss or Mrs average because they know how much they are desired. It would be interesting to hear from any females who consider themselves to be incredibly attractive and any other woman for that matter on the subject. It would be amazing to actually meet one of these stunning beauties and see for myself. " | |||
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"4 published veri’s - I hope there isn’t a regular FWB in there reading this.. Hahahaha " Not a 9 or 10/10, most women and men would freely admit there level of attentiveness and usually say they are average, I'm talking about women who know they are stunning  | |||
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"4 published veri’s - I hope there isn’t a regular FWB in there reading this.. Hahahaha Not a 9 or 10/10, most women and men would freely admit there level of attentiveness and usually say they are average, I'm talking about women who know they are stunning "Should say level of attractiveness | |||
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"4 published veri’s - I hope there isn’t a regular FWB in there reading this.. Hahahaha " No reason for the not to feel great a good time was had by all | |||
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"The ladies you have been with might be thinking that about you "I don't think they would be thinking im 10/10 because I know I'm not | |||
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"Do you need a shovel for that hole you're digging yourself OP? "Please expand, its a touchy subject but we're all grown ups | |||
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"I consider myself to be attractive, I know some very beautiful women. Everyone is the same under the skin and should never be judged on looks alone. Whether other people find me attractive is entirely up to their personal taste and something over which I have no control. I do know that high levels of confidence, self esteem and self belief are not welcome on fab or the wider community. Why would being confident and having high self esteem not be welcome? "People don't like it and will try to tear people down. If a person posts a thread saying they less atractive than most people and lack confidence it will fill up with people telling them they're beautiful etc. If a person posts a thread saying they feel they're more attractive than most people they will be torn to shreds. | |||
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"I don’t consider myself anything ‘special’ but I suppose I do see a point that they might not wanna chip a nail. That said I know a gorgeous women who is a female handyman. I can see her being good with the knots and spreader bar fastening lol" Looking at your pics your definitely up there | |||
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"Do they taste the same?! I don't think they're a different species so I would expect they taste as diverse as most average looking women. Do you taste the same as a good looking man?"
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"I don’t consider myself anything ‘special’ but I suppose I do see a point that they might not wanna chip a nail. That said I know a gorgeous women who is a female handyman. I can see her being good with the knots and spreader bar fastening lol Looking at your pics your definitely up there "Is this about what you consider to be a stunning woman or women who consider themselves so? I thought from your op it was about people's opinion of themselves | |||
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"Taste the same ? I believe they do come flavoured but average mid number out of ten ladies are not given access to this chemical so you may be right "It's something I'd like to find out for myself | |||
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"Taste the same ? I believe they do come flavoured but average mid number out of ten ladies are not given access to this chemical so you may be right
It's something I'd like to find out for myself "Good luck with that after this thread. | |||
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"I adore all women "Even Winnie Mandela ...? | |||
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"Do they taste the same?! I don't think they're a different species so I would expect they taste as diverse as most average looking women. Do you taste the same as a good looking man?
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"Unfortunately I have never been with a female who I'd consider an absolute stunner, dont get me wrong I've had few lookers over the years but never Premier league. Do these flawless beautiful women taste the same? are they less willing to let themselves go sexually as Miss or Mrs average because they know how much they are desired. It would be interesting to hear from any females who consider themselves to be incredibly attractive and any other woman for that matter on the subject. It would be amazing to actually meet one of these stunning beauties and see for myself. "This is an interesting question. I’m going to try to answer it from my perspective (dan). I consider Kim to be extremely attractive, facially she has all that is considered beautiful, full lips, high cheek bones, symmetry, perfectly proportioned nose, almond shaped eyes. She’s now 47 but still turns heads and gets plenty of male attention, not just in the swinging community but in everyday life. In her younger years, before we met, she was approached by at least two A list celebrities in clubs and was chased by men with enough money to have their pick of women, and was seen my a lot of men locally as “premier league “ If you asked her, she’d probably class herself as reasonably attractive, but she’s always had the same insecurities as most women, and never been conceited about her appearance. Now she’s older she would probably fill an a4 sheet of paper with things she doesn’t like about her appearance. She’s no different to any other woman, she tastes the same, uses the toilet the same etc She could have ended up with a far better looking/richer man than me, but for her own reasons chose me. | |||
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"Popcorn anyone??? " Yes please | |||
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"Wow, when did 'absolutely stunning' become just looks? Can't even comprehend the thinking? " I wasn't talking about personalities | |||
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"Do they taste the same?! I don't think they're a different species so I would expect they taste as diverse as most average looking women. Do you taste the same as a good looking man?
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"Unfortunately I have never been with a female who I'd consider an absolute stunner, dont get me wrong I've had few lookers over the years but never Premier league. Do these flawless beautiful women taste the same? are they less willing to let themselves go sexually as Miss or Mrs average because they know how much they are desired. It would be interesting to hear from any females who consider themselves to be incredibly attractive and any other woman for that matter on the subject. It would be amazing to actually meet one of these stunning beauties and see for myself.
This is an interesting question.
I’m going to try to answer it from my perspective (dan).
I consider Kim to be extremely attractive, facially she has all that is considered beautiful, full lips, high cheek bones, symmetry, perfectly proportioned nose, almond shaped eyes. She’s now 47 but still turns heads and gets plenty of male attention, not just in the swinging community but in everyday life. In her younger years, before we met, she was approached by at least two A list celebrities in clubs and was chased by men with enough money to have their pick of women, and was seen my a lot of men locally as “premier league “
If you asked her, she’d probably class herself as reasonably attractive, but she’s always had the same insecurities as most women, and never been conceited about her appearance. Now she’s older she would probably fill an a4 sheet of paper with things she doesn’t like about her appearance.
She’s no different to any other woman, she tastes the same, uses the toilet the same etc
She could have ended up with a far better looking/richer man than me, but for her own reasons chose me."Fair play you got the girl, Kim looks very hot and is clearly not a golddigger. These young girls who go out specifically to bag a celeb or footballer is not in my opinion attractive at all | |||
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"I think the jist of this thread is, some thoughts are probably better not written down. " Of course your entitled to your opinion, its a forum | |||
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"Unfortunately I have never been with a female who I'd consider an absolute stunner, dont get me wrong I've had few lookers over the years but never Premier league. Do these flawless beautiful women taste the same? are they less willing to let themselves go sexually as Miss or Mrs average because they know how much they are desired. It would be interesting to hear from any females who consider themselves to be incredibly attractive and any other woman for that matter on the subject. It would be amazing to actually meet one of these stunning beauties and see for myself. "I would like to know what it means a "Premier league" to you.. 
Curious really !
As for me flawless beautiful certainly can come in many ways
Oh btw I consider myself "Premier League"..that doesnt mean of course that anyone has to consider it too..but in my humble view self confidence goes certainly a long way as much as soul! | |||
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"To be fair to the op this isn't much different to asking for BBC or BBW. He's only saying he'd like to try meeting a woman who possesses a certain physical attribute and wondering what it would be like. I know I look at someone I consider very beautiful eg Sophia Loren and wonder is she the same as the rest of us." That's what I'm getting at, the in built confidence knowing you could click your fingers and men/women would flock | |||
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"I’m beautiful " Im sure you are | |||
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"I’m beautiful Im sure you are "A solid 10/10 | |||
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"Do they taste the same?! I don't think they're a different species so I would expect they taste as diverse as most average looking women. Do you taste the same as a good looking man?
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Quite the wordsmith
I'll take the recognition, thanks. "See ya | |||
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"To be fair to the op this isn't much different to asking for BBC or BBW. He's only saying he'd like to try meeting a woman who possesses a certain physical attribute and wondering what it would be like. I know I look at someone I consider very beautiful eg Sophia Loren and wonder is she the same as the rest of us. That's what I'm getting at, the in built confidence knowing you could click your fingers and men/women would flock "I think that you possibly expressed it in a way that caused a bit of resentment.Lots of people (me included) don't like being put into leagues of perceived attractiveness it creates a them and us culture. I like a beautiful body as much as the next person though | |||
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"I think the jist of this thread is, some thoughts are probably better not written down. Of course your entitled to your opinion, its a forum "Of course. But it's not been received well. | |||
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"I think the jist of this thread is, some thoughts are probably better not written down. Of course your entitled to your opinion, its a forum
Of course. But it's not been received well. "Have you read it all ? I think I has apart from a few negative people such as yourself who maybe uncomfortable with the subject matter | |||
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"I think the jist of this thread is, some thoughts are probably better not written down. Of course your entitled to your opinion, its a forum
Of course. But it's not been received well.
Have you read it all ? I think I has apart from a few negative people such as yourself who maybe uncomfortable with the subject matter"I certainly have. I'm not uncomfortable at all. I'm fine being me. I just find the question strange and the presentation of it gauche. | |||
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"To be fair to the op this isn't much different to asking for BBC or BBW. He's only saying he'd like to try meeting a woman who possesses a certain physical attribute and wondering what it would be like. I know I look at someone I consider very beautiful eg Sophia Loren and wonder is she the same as the rest of us. That's what I'm getting at, the in built confidence knowing you could click your fingers and men/women would flock
I think that you possibly expressed it in a way that caused a bit of resentment.Lots of people (me included) don't like being put into leagues of perceived attractiveness it creates a them and us culture.
I like a beautiful body as much as the next person though "I've not intended to create any resentment or offence just discussion | |||
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"I think the jist of this thread is, some thoughts are probably better not written down. Of course your entitled to your opinion, its a forum
Of course. But it's not been received well.
Have you read it all ? I think I has apart from a few negative people such as yourself who maybe uncomfortable with the subject matter"A different opinion isn't negative. You have posted something that's bound to cause discussion. I don't think you're naive enough to believe it wouldn't. | |||
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"I think the jist of this thread is, some thoughts are probably better not written down. Of course your entitled to your opinion, its a forum
Of course. But it's not been received well.
Have you read it all ? I think I has apart from a few negative people such as yourself who maybe uncomfortable with the subject matter
I certainly have.
I'm not uncomfortable at all. I'm fine being me. I just find the question strange and the presentation of it gauche. "Thanks for the feedback, be sure to tune in next time, or not | |||
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"To be fair to the op this isn't much different to asking for BBC or BBW. He's only saying he'd like to try meeting a woman who possesses a certain physical attribute and wondering what it would be like. I know I look at someone I consider very beautiful eg Sophia Loren and wonder is she the same as the rest of us. That's what I'm getting at, the in built confidence knowing you could click your fingers and men/women would flock
I think that you possibly expressed it in a way that caused a bit of resentment.Lots of people (me included) don't like being put into leagues of perceived attractiveness it creates a them and us culture.
I like a beautiful body as much as the next person though
I've not intended to create any resentment or offence just discussion "The first word of your opening post is "unfortunately". You then describe how non of the women you've met have been premier league. How did you think this would provoke rational discussion? | |||
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"To be fair to the op this isn't much different to asking for BBC or BBW. He's only saying he'd like to try meeting a woman who possesses a certain physical attribute and wondering what it would be like. I know I look at someone I consider very beautiful eg Sophia Loren and wonder is she the same as the rest of us. That's what I'm getting at, the in built confidence knowing you could click your fingers and men/women would flock
I think that you possibly expressed it in a way that caused a bit of resentment.Lots of people (me included) don't like being put into leagues of perceived attractiveness it creates a them and us culture.
I like a beautiful body as much as the next person though
I've not intended to create any resentment or offence just discussion
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"To be fair to the op this isn't much different to asking for BBC or BBW. He's only saying he'd like to try meeting a woman who possesses a certain physical attribute and wondering what it would be like. I know I look at someone I consider very beautiful eg Sophia Loren and wonder is she the same as the rest of us. That's what I'm getting at, the in built confidence knowing you could click your fingers and men/women would flock
I think that you possibly expressed it in a way that caused a bit of resentment.Lots of people (me included) don't like being put into leagues of perceived attractiveness it creates a them and us culture.
I like a beautiful body as much as the next person though
I've not intended to create any resentment or offence just discussion
The first word of your opening post is "unfortunately". You then describe how non of the women you've met have been premier league. How did you think this would provoke rational discussion?
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"The problem being, you're putting everyone, including yourself, in a league, where there are none. Grow up man." How's your "insatiable stiffy" Mr grown up | |||
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"The problem being, you're putting everyone, including yourself, in a league, where there are none. Grow up man." I agree. I gather I'm attractive. I'm not a supermodel. The idea that my body chemistry (taste) or abilities in bed, or my worth, is different from a supermodel, I find bizarre. Evidently others do too. Which is why you're getting the response you're getting. And in a public forum, you're allowed your opinion, and I mine. | |||
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"The problem being, you're putting everyone, including yourself, in a league, where there are none. Grow up man. How's your "insatiable stiffy" Mr grown up "Sated last night thankyou | |||
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"The problem being, you're putting everyone, including yourself, in a league, where there are none. Grow up man. I agree. I gather I'm attractive. I'm not a supermodel. The idea that my body chemistry (taste) or abilities in bed, or my worth, is different from a supermodel, I find bizarre. Evidently others do too. Which is why you're getting the response you're getting. And in a public forum, you're allowed your opinion, and I mine. " All of this. You are placing a value on someones physical attractiveness when it's something that, for a start off is not quantifiable, and that is before you get to the fact it is subjective and influenced by many many things (including it would appear, in your case, the media and it's misogynistic portal of the 'perfect' woman) Take for example one of my partners. We often discuss women, an advantage of me being bi. I know when I walk in a room I can cause him to stop breathing for a moment. I know how attractive he finds me. I know other people wouldn't want to touch me with someone else's barge pole. Anyway. He was telling me about someone he met at a networking event. The most facially beautiful woman he's ever met... I looked forward to meeting her, I love watching him flirt with eye candy. Only I didn't find her attractive at all, her face was too square, her jawline too hard. She just did nothing for me. | |||
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"Taste the same ? I believe they do come flavoured but average mid number out of ten ladies are not given access to this chemical so you may be right "Belive me all women do not taste the same | |||
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"Taste the same ? I believe they do come flavoured but average mid number out of ten ladies are not given access to this chemical so you may be right
Belive me all women do not taste the same "Oh I know OP !! | |||
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"I adore all women
Even Winnie Mandela ...?"Even you Dearie if that's how you identify | |||
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"Unfortunately I have never been with a female who I'd consider an absolute stunner, dont get me wrong I've had few lookers over the years but never Premier league. Do these flawless beautiful women taste the same? are they less willing to let themselves go sexually as Miss or Mrs average because they know how much they are desired. It would be interesting to hear from any females who consider themselves to be incredibly attractive and any other woman for that matter on the subject. It would be amazing to actually meet one of these stunning beauties and see for myself. "Oh dear  | |||
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"Unfortunately I have never been with a female who I'd consider an absolute stunner, dont get me wrong I've had few lookers over the years but never Premier league. Do these flawless beautiful women taste the same? are they less willing to let themselves go sexually as Miss or Mrs average because they know how much they are desired. It would be interesting to hear from any females who consider themselves to be incredibly attractive and any other woman for that matter on the subject. It would be amazing to actually meet one of these stunning beauties and see for myself. "It depends what you personally find attractive, it's not a one look for all. I'm attractive to my husband, he says I'm perfect so after 28years of marriage he picked well vice versa | |||
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"Do you need a shovel for that hole you're digging yourself OP?
At this stage I think he needs a ladder to get out of it"
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"So basically you are settling for us regular munters until you can find yourself a model " Your definitely no munter | |||
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"Do you need a shovel for that hole you're digging yourself OP?
At this stage I think he needs a ladder to get out of it
He'll reach the earth's core if he carries on for much longer "10/10 for your input | |||
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"There are two fallacies in this thread. The first is that there is not in the West a universal idea of beauty, the second is that this universal standard should be treated as more than a preference. Before anyone shoots the messenger Google "Beauty advantage" and studies show that people who are conventially attractive (both male and female) receive advantages due to their looks, in regard to jobs and partners. Clubs like "Killing Kittens" and "LeBoudiour" trade on conventially attractive people wanting to mix with conventially attractive people. I personally think it is wrong, but they seem to do well. The usual comment about "having standards" in threads of the fun term "gym fit" all fall into existing mores. There is the world how we would like it to be, and how it is. There was a sad thread on FL about a parent in the States getting a call from his kid's school. The school was under lock in because of a crazy with a gun was loose locally. The parent is for gun control but the reality is that there are people with a different view. Unfortunately for the time being we live in their world. We can only try not to let others' values affect us. " In counter to your argument, my mum says I'm handsome  I've not had my invite to Killing Kittens, or LeBoudoir yet (Dont bother, not interested, sounds like Hell).
I've been told by enough people now, not just my dear old mum I hasten to add. That I'm "Conventionally attractive". I'm even beginning to see it a bit myself, finally. As disgusting and big headed as that must sound...
Its NEVER opened any doors for me. Despite years of hard work and effort, applied and adaptable intelligence. I'm still a glorified Pool Boy. It's not helped me with any of my romantic partners, because they all took advantage of my kind naturd and treated my like a cunt.
It may have tipped the balance occasionally on Fab, but I'd argue the toss.
Fab for me.. never took off properly, till I stopped pretending to be someone I wasnt and started owning who I was.. on here, in the Forum.
Can't believe I just said 'I think I'm attractive' In the Forum, but if you cant see the beauty in yourself, how can you expect anyone else to.
I'm attracted to all sorts of people, for all sorts of reasons. Deep down, privately, I think many of us are the same the world over. It's just what other people may think that holds some of us back from admitting it.
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"Ghengis...you have a very large number of females who think you are very attractive..myself included....you have something of a fan club "Ummm.. hmmm.. umm.. I don't know what to say to that I was just sounding off because Zensual is quite an interesting dude to debate with...
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"The problem being, you're putting everyone, including yourself, in a league, where there are none. Grow up man." You know that Tinder actually uses an algorithm to put everyone in a different league so the most attractive people meet similarly attractive people. Those same attractive people are not presented to people deemed less conventionally attractive because they’d be less likely to match. Google ‘tinder algorithm’. Not entering any argument here but just saying that some sites who make lots of money do split people into leagues but just don’t make it too public. | |||
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You really don't get it?"We could try translating it back into football speak? Hang on, my kids love footy, I'll do my best.. OP.. They may have enjoyed the beautiful game at the time, the battle of wits and skill, the tactics and aggression of the contact sport that football is. But you just compared them all to Acrington Stanley! None of us think we're 'Los Galactico's', but you don't rank lower than the Premier League. Tends to lose you fans. No ticket sales means you may be going into Administration.. | |||
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I think some really good discussion points get side tracked by the way the original post is expressed.
When we first started swinging Mr n said to me "you can have any type of man you want, young, old etc etc" he was encouraging me to experiment with all kinds of people (respectfully of course). I think the op is just expressing a wish to experience sex with a drop dead gorgeous woman and lets face it lots of guys would given the chance. I know if a David Beckham approached me for an evening of fun and frolics I'd be slipping into my see through negligee and fluffy mules quicker than you could say "penalty".
The problem is that although most of us fall into the attractive to very attractive category none of us want to be reminded of that because it excludes us from the group the op is talking about"Exactly!! | |||
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Mr Khan - you are physically gorgeous. But you smoke which isn't for me. Doesn't mean you're not attractive though I both looks and personality. Unlike some. "Hush your mouth woman | |||
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I think some really good discussion points get side tracked by the way the original post is expressed.
When we first started swinging Mr n said to me "you can have any type of man you want, young, old etc etc" he was encouraging me to experiment with all kinds of people (respectfully of course). I think the op is just expressing a wish to experience sex with a drop dead gorgeous woman and lets face it lots of guys would given the chance. I know if a David Beckham approached me for an evening of fun and frolics I'd be slipping into my see through negligee and fluffy mules quicker than you could say "penalty".
The problem is that although most of us fall into the attractive to very attractive category none of us want to be reminded of that because it excludes us from the group the op is talking about"My dear departed grandad told me "diplomacy gets you out of what tact would have kept you out of". I'm guilty of occassionaly forgetting this sage advice. And you had me at see through negligee........ | |||
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I've been told by enough people now, not just my dear old mum I hasten to add. That I'm "Conventionally attractive". I'm even beginning to see it a bit myself, finally. As disgusting and big headed as that must sound...
Its NEVER opened any doors for me. Despite years of hard work and effort, applied and adaptable intelligence. I'm still a glorified Pool Boy. It's not helped me with any of my romantic partners, because they all took advantage of my kind naturd and treated my like a cunt.
It may have tipped the balance occasionally on Fab, but I'd argue the toss.
Fab for me.. never took off properly, till I stopped pretending to be someone I wasnt and started owning who I was.. on here, in the Forum.
Can't believe I just said 'I think I'm attractive' In the Forum, but if you cant see the beauty in yourself, how can you expect anyone else to.
I'm attracted to all sorts of people, for all sorts of reasons. Deep down, privately, I think many of us are the same the world over. It's just what other people may think that holds some of us back from admitting it.
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Well you see, stunners like myself (not my words, others call me that) don't go for the average
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Well you see, stunners like myself (not my words, others call me that) don't go for the average
Looking at your pics you are not unattractive, however you are not the type of woman I am referring to, I appreciate you may be percieved as a stunner to some people as its subjective. "... wow | |||
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Well you see, stunners like myself (not my words, others call me that) don't go for the average
Looking at your pics you are not unattractive, however you are not the type of woman I am referring to, I appreciate you may be percieved as a stunner to some people as its subjective. "Fair enough | |||
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Well you see, stunners like myself (not my words, others call me that) don't go for the average
Looking at your pics you are not unattractive, however you are not the type of woman I am referring to, I appreciate you may be percieved as a stunner to some people as its subjective.
... wow"I thought OP was actually pretty fair in his comment there. Got his point across without being a dickhead. Just maybe the subjective bit... but it’s true. Fair enough OP. Bad move making the thread though... | |||
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Well you see, stunners like myself (not my words, others call me that) don't go for the average
Looking at your pics you are not unattractive, however you are not the type of woman I am referring to, I appreciate you may be percieved as a stunner to some people as its subjective.
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I thought OP was actually pretty fair in his comment there. Got his point across without being a dickhead. Just maybe the subjective bit... but it’s true.
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"There are two fallacies in this thread. The first is that there is not in the West a universal idea of beauty, the second is that this universal standard should be treated as more than a preference. Before anyone shoots the messenger Google "Beauty advantage" and studies show that people who are conventially attractive (both male and female) receive advantages due to their looks, in regard to jobs and partners. Clubs like "Killing Kittens" and "LeBoudiour" trade on conventially attractive people wanting to mix with conventially attractive people. I personally think it is wrong, but they seem to do well. The usual comment about "having standards" in threads of the fun term "gym fit" all fall into existing mores. There is the world how we would like it to be, and how it is. There was a sad thread on FL about a parent in the States getting a call from his kid's school. The school was under lock in because of a crazy with a gun was loose locally. The parent is for gun control but the reality is that there are people with a different view. Unfortunately for the time being we live in their world. We can only try not to let others' values affect us. In counter to your argument, my mum says I'm handsome I've not had my invite to Killing Kittens, or LeBoudoir yet (Dont bother, not interested, sounds like Hell).
I've been told by enough people now, not just my dear old mum I hasten to add. That I'm "Conventionally attractive". I'm even beginning to see it a bit myself, finally. As disgusting and big headed as that must sound...
Its NEVER opened any doors for me. Despite years of hard work and effort, applied and adaptable intelligence. I'm still a glorified Pool Boy. It's not helped me with any of my romantic partners, because they all took advantage of my kind naturd and treated my like a cunt.
It may have tipped the balance occasionally on Fab, but I'd argue the toss.
Fab for me.. never took off properly, till I stopped pretending to be someone I wasnt and started owning who I was.. on here, in the Forum.
Can't believe I just said 'I think I'm attractive' In the Forum, but if you cant see the beauty in yourself, how can you expect anyone else to.
I'm attracted to all sorts of people, for all sorts of reasons. Deep down, privately, I think many of us are the same the world over. It's just what other people may think that holds some of us back from admitting it.
GK
Persuasive arguments as always. I have heard of "Fab Gorgeous", and now "Mum Gorgeous"!Unfortunately I am the munter in our family and have worked to become a chief litter picker!
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"What annoys me more is some of the let's say not so good looking blokes these 'premier league women' you talk of are actually with. I'm not gay but I know a good looking bloke when I see one. I must of been doing something very wrong all my life. " Maybe, just maybe, they’re actually a really nice human being with an amazing personality and that’s why these “premier league women” chose them over a good looking guy who is as interesting as watching paint dry. Looks aren’t everything for everyone, and they’re subjective. | |||
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"What annoys me more is some of the let's say not so good looking blokes these 'premier league women' you talk of are actually with. I'm not gay but I know a good looking bloke when I see one. I must of been doing something very wrong all my life. Maybe, just maybe, they’re actually a really nice human being with an amazing personality and that’s why these “premier league women” chose them over a good looking guy who is as interesting as watching paint dry. Looks aren’t everything for everyone, and they’re subjective. ^^^^ I’ll happily take a 6/10 I can banter with over a 10/10 that’s a sensitive fucker." | |||
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"Well, for one, people who would use football as an analogy for women, or who tend to score women out of ten are someone I think a lot of Fab would want to avoid on the basis of it being an unattractive mindset. Secondly, it makes no sense, for every Man City and Chelsea in the Premier League there’s a Norwich or Burnley! I would say I’m not fussy and the most fun I’ve had has been with people who aren’t fussy. We have been (ok nearly 10 years ago) to the London parties where you need to apply with photos in advance and it costs £150 and free flowing champagne etc... and the atmosphere was not so much fun as tense! Much prefer the more inclusive and relaxed approach. And finally, the best times I think of when I’m thinking of great swinging times are watching Mrs taking someones cock in her hand to guide it inside her, or someone whispering something sexy in my ear as she’s about to lower herself onto my cock. I wasn’t really thinking at the time ‘what rating am I giving this?’ ‘How would it objectively look to someone who sees life as a football competition?’ Ffs" How to offend the people if Norwich and Burnley. Who ever mentioned football in this thread, it certainly wasn't me | |||
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"I consider myself to be attractive, I know some very beautiful women. Everyone is the same under the skin and should never be judged on looks alone. Whether other people find me attractive is entirely up to their personal taste and something over which I have no control. I do know that high levels of confidence, self esteem and self belief are not welcome on fab or the wider community." | |||
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"I know beautiful people who are really nice, I know unnatractive people who are really horrible. Why do lots of people equate beautiful on the outside with ugly on the inside but on other threads say it's not about looks? I just don't get it, either looks count or they don't. If they don't it means every type of look is discounted not just the average ones." Omg this totally ^^^ never understood it on here either! | |||
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"What annoys me more is some of the let's say not so good looking blokes these 'premier league women' you talk of are actually with. I'm not gay but I know a good looking bloke when I see one. I must of been doing something very wrong all my life. Not everyone is only looking for looks. I've met some "average" looking guys who are always very popular with ladies. They're often charming without being smarmy, very easy to talk to, hilarious and fun to be around. They're not "playing a game". Women are just drawn to them because they have personalities that are somewhat addictive. Thank God..Lol "Very few are just looking for beauty in a long term partner or even on here but if it's offered and it's just sex what's the problem? In fact why can't very good looking men have personalities that are somewhat addictive? | |||
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"What annoys me more is some of the let's say not so good looking blokes these 'premier league women' you talk of are actually with. I'm not gay but I know a good looking bloke when I see one. I must of been doing something very wrong all my life. Not everyone is only looking for looks. I've met some "average" looking guys who are always very popular with ladies. They're often charming without being smarmy, very easy to talk to, hilarious and fun to be around. They're not "playing a game". Women are just drawn to them because they have personalities that are somewhat addictive. Thank God..Lol
Very few are just looking for beauty in a long term partner or even on here but if it's offered and it's just sex what's the problem? In fact why can't very good looking men have personalities that are somewhat addictive?
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