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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I don't wish to sound a winy twat but a v recent turn of events has quite annoyed me.

Me and my girlfriend were invited to a party, all good so far. Yet the moment my profile was checked (Currently we have two separate profiles) and they noticed I had put Bi sexual they suddenly changed their tune (while obviously its ok with HER being Bi...)

Now I know we don't live in a totally homophobic free society but it shocked me in the swingers world. Assumptions were made which I feel a tad sad at. For instance I am very much more interested in women than men but as I have done something with a man more than or even just the once I can't state bi curious can I? And the fact of being bi means I can't be trusted not to beg to well...

Shocking as it may seem but I consider myself an honest genuine person on this site. Sorry if this is a bit of rant and surely I will be put in my place by some but I would be interested in peoples views and experiences on this...

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By *emmefataleWoman
over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

If someone is hosting a party they usually have ALL their guests to think about and a good mix is needed, did they actually say it was cause you are Bisexual? It is their prerogative to recede invitations for whatever reason xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We were discussing this at a party this weekend actually, and the majority of people (apart from one woman who herself was bi) said they would be fine with bisexual men at a party - as they know that, like all straight guys aren't attracted to all women and all bi girls aren't attracted to all men and all women, all bi guys aren't attracted to all guys and if they are respectful enough to get an invite to someones party then they aren't gonna jump on anyone without knowing its ok first u know...

So yeah it sucks... no its not fun for bi guys to be on the receiving end of prejudice and irrational fear. but it happens ALOT. so you just have to move on and get an invite to a party where people aren't so up tight.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I guess that he has the right to recede invites. Gf had been messaging for a while and it was stated after that Bi guys i.e me would not be welcome but she is. That part really annoyed her. I'm gonna have to find that shop tomorrow and get a refund on this soapbox lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"We were discussing this at a party this weekend actually, and the majority of people (apart from one woman who herself was bi) said they would be fine with bisexual men at a party - as they know that, like all straight guys aren't attracted to all women and all bi girls aren't attracted to all men and all women, all bi guys aren't attracted to all guys and if they are respectful enough to get an invite to someones party then they aren't gonna jump on anyone without knowing its ok first u know...

So yeah it sucks... no its not fun for bi guys to be on the receiving end of prejudice and irrational fear. but it happens ALOT. so you just have to move on and get an invite to a party where people aren't so up tight."

Thank you. As this is the first time I've been prejudiced against (except by those SAGA insurance gits...) it was quite a knock. But feck them I'm not gonna lie. It's just sad when you think society has moved on but then bam reality strikes (I'm also thinking EDL here lol)

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By *athanscott8Man
over a year ago

west

Try not be too frustrated...There will be other parties I guess...or bi club nights?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I for one will not meet Bi-men

Whilst not making assumptions about the extent of your own Bisexuality/curiosity it is a fact that HIV is highest in the Gay community, then the Bi-malE community and lowest in the straight male community. And lower again for straight, white males (than black males as a % although not absolutely).

It is hard for a straight male to contract hiv though vaginal-only sex.

It's for this reason alone I choose straight, white males (although I know they may be lying)

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By *un_JuiceCouple
over a year ago

Nr Chester

Just be honest. There are far too many that choose to hide or lie about their fondness of bi fun

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By *adchickCouple
over a year ago

Cyprus

Regardless of whether or not anyone thinks it is discrimination......

It is THEIR party and THEY can invite who they like.

It's their CHOICE.

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By *john121Man
over a year ago

staffs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a couple and me been a Bifemale. I may have a different take on this topic to most. Firstly I have nothing against bi males. Some I have chatted to have been some of the loviest genuine guys. The person whose party it was clearly did not do there homework on profiles before inviting you. I think this happens often on this site. Many don't read every detail of profiles. It seems they had there own issues with bi males. I would not let anyone prejudice upset you.I'm a bi fem but that does not mean I would pounce on any fem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Being bi doesn't mean you want to be bi all the time, just when all agree.

But yes there are double standards, read the thread about bi women, most aren't really bi, it's just a ploy to get the single women.

Love to all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't wish to sound a winy twat but a v recent turn of events has quite annoyed me.

Me and my girlfriend were invited to a party, all good so far. Yet the moment my profile was checked (Currently we have two separate profiles) and they noticed I had put Bi sexual they suddenly changed their tune (while obviously its ok with HER being Bi...)

Now I know we don't live in a totally homophobic free society but it shocked me in the swingers world. Assumptions were made which I feel a tad sad at. For instance I am very much more interested in women than men but as I have done something with a man more than or even just the once I can't state bi curious can I? And the fact of being bi means I can't be trusted not to beg to well...

Shocking as it may seem but I consider myself an honest genuine person on this site. Sorry if this is a bit of rant and surely I will be put in my place by some but I would be interested in peoples views and experiences on this..."

And the next time anyone feels the need to post a thread about why bi men lie on the9r profile about being straight.......this is why

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its the same with club, why is it ok for women to go to a club any night of the week and play with each other in open rooms but men have to have special bi nights put aside for them to play openly?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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But yes there are double standards, read the thread about bi women, most aren't really bi, it's just a ploy to get the single women."

why would you pretend to be bi to get single woman if you wasnt bi?

dont get that at all

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"We were discussing this at a party this weekend actually, and the majority of people (apart from one woman who herself was bi) said they would be fine with bisexual men at a party - as they know that, like all straight guys aren't attracted to all women and all bi girls aren't attracted to all men and all women, all bi guys aren't attracted to all guys and if they are respectful enough to get an invite to someones party then they aren't gonna jump on anyone without knowing its ok first u know...

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Hmmm going from what a lot of men have said on this forum...most of the men don't have to fancy a male to have a male experience, so I am not sure that applies to all bi men.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We were discussing this at a party this weekend actually, and the majority of people (apart from one woman who herself was bi) said they would be fine with bisexual men at a party - as they know that, like all straight guys aren't attracted to all women and all bi girls aren't attracted to all men and all women, all bi guys aren't attracted to all guys and if they are respectful enough to get an invite to someones party then they aren't gonna jump on anyone without knowing its ok first u know...

.

Hmmm going from what a lot of men have said on this forum...most of the men don't have to fancy a male to have a male experience, so I am not sure that applies to all bi men."

but you can say that about anyone, men and women, bi, gay or straight there will be some who like to be attracted and some who just see a body as sex

But i think the main thing i think in a party situation not many bi men will play with another guy if they have been told before hand there was no bi play because they know the guy would kick off and would be asked to leave, so why would a guy risk that when they could have a good night of fun just playing with women? bi guys arnt cock craved animals who just loose all mental control and ability to think every time they see a cock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

But yes there are double standards, read the thread about bi women, most aren't really bi, it's just a ploy to get the single women.

why would you pretend to be bi to get single woman if you wasnt bi?

dont get that at all "

There was a thread not so long ago about the amount of bi women. What I took away from that thread was, most have it down so they can get a woman for a FFM to please the male partner.

They were also very limited bi, maybe biselfish, bitouch only, not many were rampant fanny munchers so to speak.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" bi guys arnt cock craved animals who just loose all mental control and ability to think every time they see a cock "

Bi men love you, come and visit N Wales

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I for one will not meet Bi-men

Whilst not making assumptions about the extent of your own Bisexuality/curiosity it is a fact that HIV is highest in the Gay community, then the Bi-malE community and lowest in the straight male community. And lower again for straight, white males (than black males as a % although not absolutely).

It is hard for a straight male to contract hiv though vaginal-only sex.

It's for this reason alone I choose straight, white males (although I know they may be lying)"
A major component of the rapid increase over the past 15 years has been heterosexually acquired infection. Up until 1998, the highest number of new HIV infections were acquired through sex between men. However, since 1999 heterosexually acquired HIV has overtaken as the largest exposure category. Heterosexual sex accounted for 42 percent of HIV diagnoses in 2010 and sex between men accounted for 38.5 percent, compared to 1995 when 31 percent were a result of heterosexual sex and 58 percent of new HIV diagnoses resulted from sex between men. Most of the new diagnoses among heterosexuals are in people who probably acquired HIV in other countries, particularly Africa. However, the number of infections probably acquired from heterosexual sex within the UK increased from 157 in 2000 to approximately 416 in 2010.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't worrying about getting aids a bit of a moot point on a swingers site?

I mean, if you're that worried, should you be swinging at all?

I agree with the poster who questioned whether all the "bi" women on here really are bi. It would be interesting to know how many women are listed on here as "bi". They sure outweigh the bi men, which doesn't sound right! Shouldn't the proportion be about the same?

I had an affair with a boy at school when we were in our teens. Does that make me all these years later bi? If an MF couple asked me to suck his cock I might do, but I'm certainly not hell bent on it!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can i just ask, all these people who dont want to meet bi men whould you also not meet people who meet bi men? if you you may as well leave now because id say everyone on here has at some point either played with a bi guy or played with others who have played with bi guys

If your worried about getting HIV from someone for being bi surely you must be worried about everyone on here whos had contacted with bi people too?

Its just paranoid over load on here at times

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"I for one will not meet Bi-men

Whilst not making assumptions about the extent of your own Bisexuality/curiosity it is a fact that HIV is highest in the Gay community, then the Bi-malE community and lowest in the straight male community. And lower again for straight, white males (than black males as a % although not absolutely).

It is hard for a straight male to contract hiv though vaginal-only sex.

It's for this reason alone I choose straight, white males (although I know they may be lying)"

Sleeping with anyone is a risk. I acknowledge this even though I'm very fastidious about using condoms. It seems you really need to do some homework on this subject...hard for vaginal sex? Even though the highest rise is between hetero sex? And tbf you make your point with "This is why I choose straight, white males even though they may be lying..." Just a strange use of words and logic is all..

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury

well we embrace bi males so if we ever have a party we will send you an invite

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By *ub bbwWoman
over a year ago

oldbury

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I for one will not meet Bi-men

Whilst not making assumptions about the extent of your own Bisexuality/curiosity it is a fact that HIV is highest in the Gay community, then the Bi-malE community and lowest in the straight male community. And lower again for straight, white males (than black males as a % although not absolutely).

It is hard for a straight male to contract hiv though vaginal-only sex.

It's for this reason alone I choose straight, white males (although I know they may be lying)"

so many alarm bells went off there at chez fabs... flags on the play!

see... this is where "preference" and "generalising" become a very very fine line....

so lets use an example.......one set of 2010 figures from the health protection agency (HPA)

since there are STI hotspots in the UK, I have decided not to meet up with anyone from the following locations regardless of circumstance:

Brighton and Hove, London, Manchester, Nottingham and Blackpool.....

sorry about that... you are disease ridden!!

see... in theory what i have said is fact... but how you decide to apply it is the way that people will then look at you....

sounds ridiculous to exclude entire swaithes of the population based on one fact doesn't it....

you say you are not making assumptions.... but then you go and make those assumptions/generalisations based on "facts"..... or a fact....singular...

so if we say 99.99999% of people who have green and purple spot are sti free.... would you have sex with them instead?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It states on our profile that both male and female can be bi as we don't discriminate, as long as everyone has fun, that's what counts, I did come across a profile once that said they would not meet bi guys or if you were straight and you had meet a couple with a bi guy they would never meet you, how bad is that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It states on our profile that both male and female can be bi as we don't discriminate, as long as everyone has fun, that's what counts, I did come across a profile once that said they would not meet bi guys or if you were straight and you had meet a couple with a bi guy they would never meet you, how bad is that"

its not bad at all... its personal preference... I had no bi guys on there for ages.. I just find it easier to decide on the message now as it seems putting things on your profile just gets you more abuse.

I discrimate against celtic fans though.. lol

cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rab, I have had that too And in only bi curious. Maybe we should hold a bi party ASAP lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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I discrimate against celtic fans though.. lol

cali "

Don't blame you, I would too

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Rab, I have had that too And in only bi curious. Maybe we should hold a bi party ASAP lol x"

Hear hear and oh celtic have a nicer kit so ummm :P

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rab, I have had that too And in only bi curious. Maybe we should hold a bi party ASAP lol x

Hear hear and oh celtic have a nicer kit so ummm :P"

As soon as ur ready! Who else wants to come along x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Rab, I have had that too And in only bi curious. Maybe we should hold a bi party ASAP lol x

Hear hear and oh celtic have a nicer kit so ummm :P"

no accounting for taste.. to the OP I do think its a bit bad to take the offer back.. I am not someone that would actively go to see two men together.. but like with anything if I dont want to watch ( I dont really like watching two women either) I will just go somewhere else and do my own thing.

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I for one will not meet Bi-men

Whilst not making assumptions about the extent of your own Bisexuality/curiosity it is a fact that HIV is highest in the Gay community, then the Bi-malE community and lowest in the straight male community. And lower again for straight, white males (than black males as a % although not absolutely).

It is hard for a straight male to contract hiv though vaginal-only sex.

It's for this reason alone I choose straight, white males (although I know they may be lying)"

yeah i'm secretly black...............

maybe that is why some of my friends get insulting messages about not playing with them cause theyve played with a 'black'

being in a swinging lifestyle is a risk itself, if anyone is that worried...desist from swinging , find a long term partner to be exclusive with and dont come out with outlandish statements.

personal choice is fine,I've no problems!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

To the OP, mate do you know what gets worse Lolll... being bi and Asian Hahaha... trust me I've been told some seriously offensive stuff but I don't really take too much offence as I tell myself its their preference but just like you o don't think lying just to get laid is a smart move... makes you look desperate and to be honest I find that sad and pathetic, that you have to lie to get laid... cheer up mate .

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By *agicfingerslovelyMan
over a year ago

Rugby

Swinging is surely about enjoying absolutely mind bending fun sex and being open about your sexuality in a safe environment - why put barriers on this and exclude others.

Bi people have more options for fun but no BI person should force themselves onto you if you are not bi yourself?

If a person did they are not swinging but being a bastard and the worse type of person that gives other swingers a bad name.

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

Well I don't want to scare the bi and homophobic out there (or maybe I do ) but we state on our profile that we seek bi-single males for MFM. And from that and all the years we been on this site I can tell you that 99% of the guys who contact us have 'straight' specified on their profile but message us with "I'm a bi-guy".

However, I'd suggest you don't take too much notice of that because the fact is one or other statement has to be a lie! Consequently we don't meet these people.

We attend parties on a regular basis which tend to be straight male/bi-fem and or straight male/fem in terms of 'play' and so far as I'm aware no one has ever seemed bothered about me being bi. That said, there could be some who do a "Well if that bi blokes going we're not!"

In point of fact typically there is more than one bi-male there but also typically there is no bi-male play either much to the disappointment of some of the fems perhaps more so than the bi-males! Equally, there will be males and females there who might be totally horrified to walk into a room and find two guys going at it

Sexual orientation bigots are alive and well in all walks of life. Suggest to the OP... go to parties that are made up of better people BUT remember that you don't HAVE to be a bigot, you don't HAVE to be a racist, you don't HAVE to be a homophobic to not like something or to not want to see something.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

About three weeks ago we have tweaked our profile, well nothing stays the same for ever! I have put straight, but also acknowlege the fact that in a "situation" something may happen! I am not curious or Bi, just accept that fun is fun, np matter where it is!

Since then, the number of straight guys who have said they suck or would suck cocks in the right situation has been huge! When questioned, some have actually said they put straight because of this situation!

So, my question to the people having the party would be.. How do you know that none of the guys coming to your party have ever engaged in Bi sex?

To the OP.. Bad that they didn't find out the facts before inviting you, but perhaps if they are that paranoid, it would not have been worth going anyway. After all, the main way to catch HIV in a sexual context is still penetrative sex, so perhaps they were all doing bareback?

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

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"We were discussing this at a party this weekend actually, and the majority of people (apart from one woman who herself was bi) said they would be fine with bisexual men at a party - as they know that, like all straight guys aren't attracted to all women and all bi girls aren't attracted to all men and all women, all bi guys aren't attracted to all guys and if they are respectful enough to get an invite to someones party then they aren't gonna jump on anyone without knowing its ok first u know...

.

Hmmm going from what a lot of men have said on this forum...most of the men don't have to fancy a male to have a male experience, so I am not sure that applies to all bi men.

but you can say that about anyone, men and women, bi, gay or straight there will be some who like to be attracted and some who just see a body as sex

But i think the main thing i think in a party situation not many bi men will play with another guy if they have been told before hand there was no bi play because they know the guy would kick off and would be asked to leave, so why would a guy risk that when they could have a good night of fun just playing with women? bi guys arnt cock craved animals who just loose all mental control and ability to think every time they see a cock "

I don't believe I said they were

What I said was....that from what I have seen on these forums, most bi men say they don't need to fancy the man to have sex with him....so saying that not all men will fancy all men won't apply in the argument of " he might not fancy you enough to have sex with "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I do think it's sad that some people assume that because a man is bi he can't be trusted to play straight in a bi situation.

That being said, if we were organising a bi party, no straight man would get an invite because we would want everyone there to feel as comfortable and free as possible... so it does work both ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do think it's sad that some people assume that because a man is bi he can't be trusted to play straight in a bi situation.

That being said, if we were organising a bi party, no straight man would get an invite because we would want everyone there to feel as comfortable and free as possible... so it does work both ways."

awww bugger...mam actually bi...honest

I'll be the one who accepts blindfolded BJ's only

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do think it's sad that some people assume that because a man is bi he can't be trusted to play straight in a bi situation.

That being said, if we were organising a bi party, no straight man would get an invite because we would want everyone there to feel as comfortable and free as possible... so it does work both ways.

awww bugger...mam actually bi...honest

I'll be the one who accepts blindfolded BJ's only"

lmao... oh well in that case, i'll get out the blindfold... just for you tho! x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I do think it's sad that some people assume that because a man is bi he can't be trusted to play straight in a bi situation.

That being said, if we were organising a bi party, no straight man would get an invite because we would want everyone there to feel as comfortable and free as possible... so it does work both ways.

awww bugger...mam actually bi...honest

I'll be the one who accepts blindfolded BJ's only

lmao... oh well in that case, i'll get out the blindfold... just for you tho! x"

make sure Mr shaves...i can tell lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I for one will not meet Bi-men

Whilst not making assumptions about the extent of your own Bisexuality/curiosity it is a fact that HIV is highest in the Gay community, then the Bi-malE community and lowest in the straight male community. And lower again for straight, white males (than black males as a % although not absolutely).

It is hard for a straight male to contract hiv though vaginal-only sex.

It's for this reason alone I choose straight, white males (although I know they may be lying)"
.....I totally agree with everything you've said. I only fuck bareback so it's very important to reduce the risk of HIV/AIDS. I'm fully aware l'm still playing a dangerous game, hence the reason to practice 'risk management'

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By *woBiTwoCouple
over a year ago

north manchester

I don't care if some people wont meet bi males... (and, given the inherent STD risks in swinging culture, I don't believe the guff about an increased health risk with bi guys... the last poster above plays bareback with strangers and thinks meeting a bi bloke who uses condoms is less risky?? I reckon it's pure preference, or perhaps distaste, or maybe fear of being jumped on, or perhaps catching the bi gene? )...We only meet people who WILL meet bi males/bi couples, (whether they themselves are bi or not) and they always know what they are meeting, as we clearly describe our orientation on our profile and via our username. Oh, and we can restrain ourselves to play straight when the situation requires, and have often played straight with straight couples and singles.... don't lose sight of the fact that 95% of our sexual activity is between ourselves, and is therefore straight, (and, curiously, we actually enjoy straight sex) so we've had plenty of practice and rarely forget where to put the different bits!

Chill, relax, enjoy.... it's supposed to be fun. Personally I wouldn't want to be in company with people who din't want me there, whether it was because I was black, fat, redheaded or bi. We've not exactly been short of meets over the last couple of years.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Prejudice sucks..

whomever it is aimed at..

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By *oonytoonMan
over a year ago

derby

I'm in full agreement I myself wouldn't class myself as bi as I don't find men attractive at all (although I can appreciate a well toned physique more for jealousy reasons) but I do like and have experienced cock play (when the mood takes me) of varying different practises and always been left smiling and my profile says I'm straight which originally stated bi but for rerasons mentioned earlier in the thread

1. There is a paranoia out there that if your bi your a cok hungry slut and will pounce on the first one you see.

2. I was bombarded with messages from single men assuming I was the aforementioned slut.

So I found it easier to declare straight but leave the looking for section including meeting male couples etc..

Once again proving that people should read profiles thoroughly before considering contact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It may not be prejudice but people like what they like and free choice over what we want sexually is what swinging is about. I do not have any attitude with anyone for how they are even if I don't fancy it. We hold gang bang nights and both of us are straight,, most of the single guys have been straight. We are happy for bi guys to come and join in the fun but master joy and the male guests will not want to play with him so would he still want to come?

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By *oodGoshCouple
over a year ago

North London

I can understand your frustration, but I guess it's just one of those things that exist in life.

There are countless pornstars who won't work with a guy if he's ever done a single bi/gay scene, and yet you see the kind of scenes they themselves participate in and it makes you scratch your head.

We've no hang-ups whatsoever of describing the pair of us as curious. The word 'curious' pretty much says it all. To us, it says that we're predominantly one way inclined, but that we're interested in the idea of enjoying ourselves in a different way.

At the end of day, there's enough scientific data to show that everyone has varying degrees of hetero/homo persuasion, and the true rarity is to find someone who is absolutely 100% one way or the other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just be honest. There are far too many that choose to hide or lie about their fondness of bi fun "

the amount of straight men messaging us for bi fun is amazing, infact prob 90% of guys who message us start by saying, i know my profile says straight but ......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a really unacceptable and sexist problem that is prevalent all over the swinging world.

It is totally and 100% unacceptable to accept bi women and not bi guys. For a group of so called tolerant and liberated people that kind of attitude is positively 1970's.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

More fool them, they're missing out on a hottie!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rab we applaud you for your refreshing honesty.

Its a nice change to see a guy who won't just say anything to get a shag.

However we too are one of those bi fem couples who won't meet bi guys or go to house parties where bi guys are.

Some people just find the very thought of two guys having sex a complete turn off.

How many times have you read a bi guys profile saying that his wife doesn't know he has sex with other guys?

If they lie to the most important person in their lives just for the sake of sex with another guy, what BS will they tell people they meet at a party.

A great part of swinging is down to trust and I'm afraid some couples, us included, don't.

Rab, don't let the experience get you down, there are many couples who don't feel the same as us.

Just concentrate on the many people who have no problem meeting bi guys.

XXXX

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden


"How many times have you read a bi guys profile saying that his wife doesn't know he has sex with other guys?

If they lie to the most important person in their lives just for the sake of sex with another guy, what BS will they tell people they meet at a party.

A great part of swinging is down to trust and I'm afraid some couples, us included, don't."

Trace and Rick, normally so balanced and even handed.. Any of the above it attributable to any sector of the Swing scene! A lot of the so called "straight" guys either single or in couples have actually told us that they have had Bi experiences! Or perhaps would try a little oral, man on man. How would you ever know?

Also, Most guys that have typed to us about male Bi play have limited it to oral! No different to a woman giving oral to a bloke on the safety side!

By all means have your preferences, but don't compromise your good standing on the Forums silliness like this!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How many times have you read a bi guys profile saying that his wife doesn't know he has sex with other guys?

If they lie to the most important person in their lives just for the sake of sex with another guy, what BS will they tell people they meet at a party.

A great part of swinging is down to trust and I'm afraid some couples, us included, don't.

Trace and Rick, normally so balanced and even handed.. Any of the above it attributable to any sector of the Swing scene! A lot of the so called "straight" guys either single or in couples have actually told us that they have had Bi experiences! Or perhaps would try a little oral, man on man. How would you ever know?

Also, Most guys that have typed to us about male Bi play have limited it to oral! No different to a woman giving oral to a bloke on the safety side!

By all means have your preferences, but don't compromise your good standing on the Forums silliness like this! "

Well stating a preference on the forums may be seen as silly but if we met a couple who said the guy was straight and he then expressed a desire to, or already had, sucked another mans cock then that would kill the meet for us, game over.

We have a few close friends on the swinging scene and we all have similar preferences.

Sure, over the 10 years or so we've been swinging we've found out one or two of the guys were, lets say, economical with the truth, so we never played with those couples again.

We'll socialise with them but the sex play is out.

So if expecting honesty is seen as "silliness" then we'll just have to hold our hands up to it.

As we've said in the past, just be honest about your sexuality, whether it costs meets or not, then every ones happy.

XXXX

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How many times have you read a bi guys profile saying that his wife doesn't know he has sex with other guys?

If they lie to the most important person in their lives just for the sake of sex with another guy, what BS will they tell people they meet at a party.

A great part of swinging is down to trust and I'm afraid some couples, us included, don't.

Trace and Rick, normally so balanced and even handed.. Any of the above it attributable to any sector of the Swing scene! A lot of the so called "straight" guys either single or in couples have actually told us that they have had Bi experiences! Or perhaps would try a little oral, man on man. How would you ever know?

Also, Most guys that have typed to us about male Bi play have limited it to oral! No different to a woman giving oral to a bloke on the safety side!

By all means have your preferences, but don't compromise your good standing on the Forums silliness like this!

Well stating a preference on the forums may be seen as silly but if we met a couple who said the guy was straight and he then expressed a desire to, or already had, sucked another mans cock then that would kill the meet for us, game over.

We have a few close friends on the swinging scene and we all have similar preferences.

Sure, over the 10 years or so we've been swinging we've found out one or two of the guys were, lets say, economical with the truth, so we never played with those couples again.

We'll socialise with them but the sex play is out.

So if expecting honesty is seen as "silliness" then we'll just have to hold our hands up to it.

As we've said in the past, just be honest about your sexuality, whether it costs meets or not, then every ones happy. XXXX"

understand what u are saying guys, but I have this friend who when he first started meeting groups about 4yrs ago no...he experimented with a couple, for about one minute tops orally receiving ...he realized this was not for him and has thus refused any further bi-play regardless of who its with throughout the fab years.

I'd like to know where he stands in the issue lol

*it was me..my hands up lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

understand what u are saying guys, but I have this friend who when he first started meeting groups about 4yrs ago no...he experimented with a couple, for about one minute tops orally receiving ...he realized this was not for him and has thus refused any further bi-play regardless of who its with throughout the fab years.

I'd like to know where he stands in the issue lol

*it was me..my hands up lol

"

But that's what we don't understand, Trace is bi, has been since as a kid she saw Grease and thought Sandy was the hottest thing ever.

She never did anything with another woman until her 30's but the feeling was always there.

I'm straight, never had the slightest inclination to suck or be sucked by another guy, heat of the moment or not.

If you lined up every horny fem celeb and said I could have them if I just sucked or got sucked by a guy, then I'd be going home with a full sack.

Hell, I love the Spartacus series on Sky1 but when those two guys started snogging and running their hands over each other my toes nearly tore the insoles out of my boots!

XXXX

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham


"Its the same with club, why is it ok for women to go to a club any night of the week and play with each other in open rooms but men have to have special bi nights put aside for them to play openly?"

Anyone who came into swinging expecting tolerance and openminded attitudes just need to spend a night in a club listening to the casual homophobia the straight men exhibit,imo as a defense for the fact they have just been naked in a room with other men

OP there are bigoted twunts everywhere, you probably wouldnt have enjoyed the party anyway, find ppl who u can be yourself around.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

lol

well i was new to the scene, i wasnt revolted or anything, just a lack of mental stimuli to get me excited..and again, I experimented for the wrong reason as it wasnt for me that i done it(although my choice entirely to experiment).Thats why i stick to my guns nowadays, as I felt i wasnt being true to myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So much for an open-minded environment!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its the same with club, why is it ok for women to go to a club any night of the week and play with each other in open rooms but men have to have special bi nights put aside for them to play openly?

Anyone who came into swinging expecting tolerance and openminded attitudes just need to spend a night in a club listening to the casual homophobia the straight men exhibit,imo as a defense for the fact they have just been naked in a room with other men

OP there are bigoted twunts everywhere, you probably wouldnt have enjoyed the party anyway, find ppl who u can be yourself around."

i love it when you ask these men.....

so whys it ok for two women but not two men.....

try it, some of the replys you get are worth sitting there and getting a brain tumor thro listerning to just for the laugh

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just to clarify, as a couple who don't meet bi men are we bigoted twunts, homophobic or considered prejudiced?? I thought we were just choosing to do things our way, the way WE want to meet! It's not that we feel a bi man is going to pounce on any man anytime, it has nothing to do with sexual health it's just purely and simply preference! To all those who feel that this is prejudiced or anything else you want to call it, do you not have any preferences when it comes to meets? Ie- colour, age, fat, thin, bald, hairy or anything else!?

I'm sure there are people on involved in the swinging scene who are stuck in the 50s but as with other topics surely its unfair to tar us all with the same brush? And as for the reference to EDL!!??? Really!!! We're hardly part of the national front because the wife finds bi guys a bit of a turn off!!!

And we're the ones who are supposed to be judgemental........

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By *ngieandMrManCouple
over a year ago

hereford

I've always found in vanilla discussions on this subject that just about everyone, male and female find the idea of two women having sex play together erotic. Worst response 'don't do much for me'.

However if you ask people what they think of the idea of two guys having sex with each other, many people, male and female are totally horrified by just the thought of it.

Don't matter if its the vanilla world or the swinging world. Most swingers are nothing really special in the sense that they are just members of the public who bring bigotry, racism and narrow mindedness with them.

If a person is horrified by male homosexual activity then so be it. No one else should be demanding or putting them down for how they feel about it.

'If you accept bi-fem you SHOULD accept bi-male' BOLLOCKS isn't that like saying if you are into water-sports you must accept scat?

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Just to clarify, as a couple who don't meet bi men are we bigoted twunts, homophobic or considered prejudiced?? I thought we were just choosing to do things our way, the way WE want to meet! It's not that we feel a bi man is going to pounce on any man anytime, it has nothing to do with sexual health it's just purely and simply preference! To all those who feel that this is prejudiced or anything else you want to call it, do you not have any preferences when it comes to meets? Ie- colour, age, fat, thin, bald, hairy or anything else!?

I'm sure there are people on involved in the swinging scene who are stuck in the 50s but as with other topics surely its unfair to tar us all with the same brush? And as for the reference to EDL!!??? Really!!! We're hardly part of the national front because the wife finds bi guys a bit of a turn off!!!

And we're the ones who are supposed to be judgemental........ "

2 things here....

1) bi girls... yey.. more the merrier... jump on in!!

bi guys.... boo.... disgusting... get away from me....

irony anyone????

2) if they didn't tell you they were bi, you would be blissfully ignorant... and playing happily in your own merry world

unless there is some sort of 100% way of telling a person is bi... I am all for stamping them.. yep.. a big old mark... I know.. lets stick it on the forehead....

(sorry.. that last paragraph is facetious... but it gets a point across...)

and then you wonder why people lie about their sexuality.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just to clarify, as a couple who don't meet bi men are we bigoted twunts, homophobic or considered prejudiced?? I thought we were just choosing to do things our way, the way WE want to meet! It's not that we feel a bi man is going to pounce on any man anytime, it has nothing to do with sexual health it's just purely and simply preference! To all those who feel that this is prejudiced or anything else you want to call it, do you not have any preferences when it comes to meets? Ie- colour, age, fat, thin, bald, hairy or anything else!?

I'm sure there are people on involved in the swinging scene who are stuck in the 50s but as with other topics surely its unfair to tar us all with the same brush? And as for the reference to EDL!!??? Really!!! We're hardly part of the national front because the wife finds bi guys a bit of a turn off!!!

And we're the ones who are supposed to be judgemental........

2 things here....

1) bi girls... yey.. more the merrier... jump on in!!

bi guys.... boo.... disgusting... get away from me....

irony anyone????

2) if they didn't tell you they were bi, you would be blissfully ignorant... and playing happily in your own merry world

unless there is some sort of 100% way of telling a person is bi... I am all for stamping them.. yep.. a big old mark... I know.. lets stick it on the forehead....

(sorry.. that last paragraph is facetious... but it gets a point across...)

and then you wonder why people lie about their sexuality....."

1- have I mentioned anything about people lieing about they're sexuality!?

2- have I said "booo, disgusting"?

3- should I say to my wife that she has to meet bi guys!? Surely that's a bit wrong!

How is it ironic to have different sexual attractions to other people.

So are you saying that because my wife finds fem/fem sex a turn on she SHOULD find bi men a turn on? Wow!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some great points in here and some not so good points. If someone said no bi-guys because frankly it doesn't do anything for them ok fair enough. If someone won't because frankly they think we're diseased ridden cock jumpers then get with the programme. I'm bi but would say predominantely hetro so I can behave while there's another cock in the room. To the OP don't be ashamed of being honest even if there are plenty of dishonest people who seem to be getting their cake and eating it. There are women, couples and of course other men who won't care that your bi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Some great points in here and some not so good points. If someone said no bi-guys because frankly it doesn't do anything for them ok fair enough. If someone won't because frankly they think we're diseased ridden cock jumpers then get with the programme. I'm bi but would say predominantely hetro so I can behave while there's another cock in the room. To the OP don't be ashamed of being honest even if there are plenty of dishonest people who seem to be getting their cake and eating it. There are women, couples and of course other men who won't care that your bi."

Exactly! I am aware that there are people who think like this but that doesn't mean every1 shares the same view!

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden


"Well stating a preference on the forums may be seen as silly but if we met a couple who said the guy was straight and he then expressed a desire to, or already had, sucked another mans cock then that would kill the meet for us, game over."

Sorry Trace & Rick.. It was not the stating of preferences that was silly and for the record, I can understand where you are coming from. It was the "silly" use of phrases, which can be used by people in every sector of swinging!

"How many times have you read a bi guys profile saying that his wife doesn't know he has sex with other guys?" and the other

Or

"How many times have you read a straight ladies profile saying that her husband doesn't know she has sex with other people?" As an alternative!

“If they lie to the most important person in their lives just for the sake of sex with another guy, what BS will they tell people they meet at a party.”

Or

“If they lie to the most important person in their lives just for the sake of sex with another person, what BS will they tell people they meet at a party.”

Trying to paint Bi guys in a bad light like this is not your usual modus operandi and I just found it a little surprising!

(We still think Trace is hotter than a hot thing from Hotsville!)

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