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"When discussing another issue recently on fabs it was suggested recently that taking money towards gangbang costs could be _iewed as charging for sex. Personally I strongly disagree. It is not considered paying for sex when we pay to go to a swingers club. Yes it is there for sex and we have sex there, but freely. The money element is about providing the space. If holding a gang bang I consider it reasonable the cost gets split between me and the guys. To get a hotel in town(Bristol) where we can get to rooms without passing reception as well as a bag of drinks and big box of condoms costs around 120/130 quid usually. If I get 4 single guys to chip in 25 quid each I think that is fair.It is not commercial or selling sex, all kitty gets spent on putting on the night. It certainly less than many swingers clubs charge single guys. It hardly seems fair that the woman should foot the whole bill. Most important though the money is NOT for any sex that may go on. All the guys that come to the gb nights seem happy with it, but now someone has said it is charging for sex I just wonder what others feel." All share, all fair. In my opinion anyway. | |||
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"When discussing another issue recently on fabs it was suggested recently that taking money towards gangbang costs could be _iewed as charging for sex. Personally I strongly disagree. It is not considered paying for sex when we pay to go to a swingers club. Yes it is there for sex and we have sex there, but freely. The money element is about providing the space. If holding a gang bang I consider it reasonable the cost gets split between me and the guys. To get a hotel in town(Bristol) where we can get to rooms without passing reception as well as a bag of drinks and big box of condoms costs around 120/130 quid usually. If I get 4 single guys to chip in 25 quid each I think that is fair.It is not commercial or selling sex, all kitty gets spent on putting on the night. It certainly less than many swingers clubs charge single guys. It hardly seems fair that the woman should foot the whole bill. Most important though the money is NOT for any sex that may go on. All the guys that come to the gb nights seem happy with it, but now someone has said it is charging for sex I just wonder what others feel." The problem is how the police _iew it not how you _iew it...you may say the money is not for sex...they might disagree,...its why u need to be very careful. Prostitution isnt illegal in this country but the fecked laws mean it is a grey area. As for a normal hotel meet split 50/50 has always seemed fair to me. | |||
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"Both parties should pay for hotel. Or all involved. Bugs me when I see profiles saying only do hotel meets and single bloke to pay all costs. Not on that I dont think " Completely agree with you. Whenever I've done a hotel meet, costs have been split equally. Ms | |||
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"For the OP - The costs of the night should be split equally, end of. If I was attending a gang bang in a hotel I would expect to share the costs with everyone else attending. When I meet couples I split the costs 50/50. When I meet a single female, I cover the cost myself " Interesting. Why pay the lot for a single fem but go 50/50 with a cpl? is that cos theres a male in the cpl perhaps? | |||
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"For the OP - The costs of the night should be split equally, end of. If I was attending a gang bang in a hotel I would expect to share the costs with everyone else attending. When I meet couples I split the costs 50/50. When I meet a single female, I cover the cost myself " just out of interest why do you cover the cost yourself for a woman but not a couple? | |||
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"For the OP - The costs of the night should be split equally, end of. If I was attending a gang bang in a hotel I would expect to share the costs with everyone else attending. When I meet couples I split the costs 50/50. When I meet a single female, I cover the cost myself Interesting. Why pay the lot for a single fem but go 50/50 with a cpl? is that cos theres a male in the cpl perhaps?" lol great minds think a like or is it idiots never differ lol | |||
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"For the OP - The costs of the night should be split equally, end of. If I was attending a gang bang in a hotel I would expect to share the costs with everyone else attending. When I meet couples I split the costs 50/50. When I meet a single female, I cover the cost myself Interesting. Why pay the lot for a single fem but go 50/50 with a cpl? is that cos theres a male in the cpl perhaps? lol great minds think a like or is it idiots never differ lol" lol pleased to no you kiddo but which one of us is dumber then. I mean im thick like but I dont fancy claiming the title haha x | |||
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"To be honest I think it is because there is a male in a couple lol And I have just never let a lady pay. with my ex I always paid. Even when I go out with female friends I always pay. " so your making the guy pay for the privilege of watching you fuck his mrs lol | |||
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"Lol if that's how you want to put it then that's how you want to put it. But on a serious note, I think it's just the way I have been brought up, or to be honest I dunno, but for me it just feels right to always pay for a girl. And if there is another male around then he should split the cost with me. Just how I feel. So even if I meet a couple I wouldn't ask the lady half." Putts kettle on and settles down for the Emily Packhursts modern day fems for all equal rights brigade to come back on this one lol | |||
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"Lol if that's how you want to put it then that's how you want to put it. But on a serious note, I think it's just the way I have been brought up, or to be honest I dunno, but for me it just feels right to always pay for a girl. And if there is another male around then he should split the cost with me. Just how I feel. So even if I meet a couple I wouldn't ask the lady half. Putts kettle on and settles down for the Emily Packhursts modern day fems for all equal rights brigade to come back on this one lol" not from me, i always offer to pay towards a room but if the guy insists on paying im not going to argue with him lol however i dont get the not asking the female half of a couple for money towards a room, if they are a couple its their money so no matter who gives you the cast its still coming out of her pocket as welll as his | |||
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"not a penny of profit, it is more than acceptable. enjoy x" That's the key point, to my mind. If a group of friends go out for dinner and one of them pays for the meal on a credit card and the others pay him/her back their share of the bill, is the one with the card charging them for the food? | |||
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" however i dont get the not asking the female half of a couple for money towards a room, if they are a couple its their money so no matter who gives you the cast its still coming out of her pocket as welll as his " Err I don't get it either. I think what I mean is that I would deal with the male half of the couple when splitting the costs. When with a female I will always pay. Is that wrong? Just doesn't feel right for me if she pays. | |||
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"we must be one of the rare couples that see's clubs as selling sex, as thats the whole idea of them. " how are clubs selling sex? now im talking swingers clubs here not clubs that lay on girls, but if i go to a club i dont work for the club, im there as a customer, i pay to get in and use the facilities im not paying for sex, if i go and dont fancy anyone i dont play simple as, just because you go to a club does not mean you HAVE to play and the club wont refuse you back in if you dont lol | |||
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"Lol if that's how you want to put it then that's how you want to put it. But on a serious note, I think it's just the way I have been brought up, or to be honest I dunno, but for me it just feels right to always pay for a girl. And if there is another male around then he should split the cost with me. Just how I feel. So even if I meet a couple I wouldn't ask the lady half." I can understand where this comes from as I've been brought up that way (from the female perspective). Yes it's old school. I've moved with time and would always offer half, but I wouldn't argue if they insist on paying lol. I also don't argue if they want to pay for the drinks, etc. I do enjoy the kind of old fashioned way of being taken care of by a man, like holding doors, carrying bags for me. I put in other efforts, like bringing all the toys, condoms, lubes, I spend a fortune on lingerie to look sexy..... I guess it's all give and take?! As long as both parties are happy with the agreement, why not. And as for the OP's point, I agree if all split equally it's all fair. | |||
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"A guy I once chatted to staid in a Dublin hotel on holidays. We agreed to meet up but then he asked me to pay half for his hotel! The word starting with F and ending with uck off came to mind. " im with you on that one, i get quite a few men mail me who are working in my area so in a hotel, i refuse to pay towards hotels of men who are staying in them with work, why should he get his expenses back and half back from me too? i actually think thats just cheeky and trying to make money out of me like that will deffo not get them a meet even if after they agree i shouldnt pay | |||
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"A guy I once chatted to staid in a Dublin hotel on holidays. We agreed to meet up but then he asked me to pay half for his hotel! The word starting with F and ending with uck off came to mind. im with you on that one, i get quite a few men mail me who are working in my area so in a hotel, i refuse to pay towards hotels of men who are staying in them with work, why should he get his expenses back and half back from me too? i actually think thats just cheeky and trying to make money out of me like that will deffo not get them a meet even if after they agree i shouldnt pay" The cheek of some people! Can't believe that they're trying to get sex and make a bit of money out of it lol.... like you once they even suggest anything like it I'm out of there! | |||
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"Split the costs with a couple. Would expect single males to arrange and pay for hotel. Often more risk in the males not turning up. We have been asked by males to book hotel and pay.Not doing that, sorry. " Seems you're in a minority | |||
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"Unless I was booking the room (in which case I would pay the full cost of the room), then I wouldn't pay anything towards it - reason being I state quite clearly in my profile that I want a man who can accommodate as I can't - I'm more than happy to meet in a hotel but that has to be the man's decision as to whether I am "worth" the price of a room. I am also happy to meet in a club if that helps with their can't accom problem, in which case I would pay for my own entry fee - bottom line - I have some lovely friends who can accom so why do I need to pay to meet someone who cant?" I think it depends how much you want to meet someone, i have paid for hotel rooms fully befor if ive really wanted to meet them simply because id sooner meet a guy i really like and pay for the room myself than meet a guys that ok that pays for the room, not everyone has the money for hotels and i understand that so im more than happy to pay if it gets me to meet guys i really like | |||
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"Unless I was booking the room (in which case I would pay the full cost of the room), then I wouldn't pay anything towards it - reason being I state quite clearly in my profile that I want a man who can accommodate as I can't - I'm more than happy to meet in a hotel but that has to be the man's decision as to whether I am "worth" the price of a room. I am also happy to meet in a club if that helps with their can't accom problem, in which case I would pay for my own entry fee - bottom line - I have some lovely friends who can accom so why do I need to pay to meet someone who cant? I think it depends how much you want to meet someone, i have paid for hotel rooms fully befor if ive really wanted to meet them simply because id sooner meet a guy i really like and pay for the room myself than meet a guys that ok that pays for the room, not everyone has the money for hotels and i understand that so im more than happy to pay if it gets me to meet guys i really like" Exactly - thats why I said if I was booking the room (which I have been known to do for some very delicious people) I would cover the full cost and wouldn't say "well if you want me you have to pay" xxxx | |||
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"Not in a. Minority " How so - certainly on here everyone but you say they split the cost of a hotel with a single man | |||
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"People are right to have a _iew, no issue with that. However this is a small section of membership. What we find from our contacts is lots of couples won't take the risk. Let's face it couples and single woman have no issue meeting other people.Its the males who often have the problem" so how is it a risk if they guy pays for the hotel and then you pay half when you arrive you don't lose anything if the guy doesnt turn up then - but to expect someone to pay for everything when the meet is supposed to be about mutual fun is not really in the spitit of swinging | |||
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"Sam Sampson kook at response most who have replied are not happy to pay costs or even half" Think your wrong there | |||
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"People are right to have a _iew, no issue with that. However this is a small section of membership. What we find from our contacts is lots of couples won't take the risk. Let's face it couples and single woman have no issue meeting other people.Its the males who often have the problem" hhmmm I see it differently. After going through the huge pile of single men offering to meet me, finding a compatible, great guy who I get along with, hits all or most of my boxes, I wouldn't want to offend them by insisting on them paying for the hotel just because 'they'are lucky to meet me as single males have issues meeting women'. I really hope that they will treat me with respect and give me a great night so I would treat them the same. | |||
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"People are right to have a _iew, no issue with that. However this is a small section of membership. What we find from our contacts is lots of couples won't take the risk. Let's face it couples and single woman have no issue meeting other people.Its the males who often have the problem hhmmm I see it differently. After going through the huge pile of single men offering to meet me, finding a compatible, great guy who I get along with, hits all or most of my boxes, I wouldn't want to offend them by insisting on them paying for the hotel just because 'they'are lucky to meet me as single males have issues meeting women'. I really hope that they will treat me with respect and give me a great night so I would treat them the same. " I met someone recently who said they would feel like a prostitute if they didn't pay half towards the cost of the hotel | |||
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"Sam Sampson kook at response most who have replied are not happy to pay costs or even half Think your wrong there " actually i think over all most single females are happy to go halfs on hotels with guys but for some reason a hell of a lot of couples arnt? problem is far to many people are happy to take the piss out of single guys, because they know its harder for them to meet they feel they have the rights to dictate to the guy whats going to happen on a meet and whos paying, whats even a bigger problem is a lot of single guys are happy to be treat like this to get a meet so these people keep on doing it | |||
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" I met someone recently who said they would feel like a prostitute if they didn't pay half towards the cost of the hotel " I wouldn't take it that far, it's not like he's paying me additionally for sex. As I stated previously if he insists on paying for the hotel I'm ok with it. | |||
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"People are right to have a _iew, no issue with that. However this is a small section of membership. What we find from our contacts is lots of couples won't take the risk. Let's face it couples and single woman have no issue meeting other people.Its the males who often have the problem hhmmm I see it differently. After going through the huge pile of single men offering to meet me, finding a compatible, great guy who I get along with, hits all or most of my boxes, I wouldn't want to offend them by insisting on them paying for the hotel just because 'they'are lucky to meet me as single males have issues meeting women'. I really hope that they will treat me with respect and give me a great night so I would treat them the same. " its really refeshing to see a down to earth women on here far to many women single and female halfs of couples (and even sometimes the male half) get far to above their stations on here and start insisting unrealistic demandes in a meet and get quite demanding dont ever change | |||
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"Sam Sampson kook at response most who have replied are not happy to pay costs or even half Think your wrong there actually i think over all most single females are happy to go halfs on hotels with guys but for some reason a hell of a lot of couples arnt? problem is far to many people are happy to take the piss out of single guys, because they know its harder for them to meet they feel they have the rights to dictate to the guy whats going to happen on a meet and whos paying, whats even a bigger problem is a lot of single guys are happy to be treat like this to get a meet so these people keep on doing it" You could be right but thank god there are enough people out there who are in this for all the right reasons | |||
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" I met someone recently who said they would feel like a prostitute if they didn't pay half towards the cost of the hotel I wouldn't take it that far, it's not like he's paying me additionally for sex. As I stated previously if he insists on paying for the hotel I'm ok with it. " Just quoting them thats all - and did offer to pay for it all but they insisted | |||
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" its really refeshing to see a down to earth women on here far to many women single and female halfs of couples (and even sometimes the male half) get far to above their stations on here and start insisting unrealistic demandes in a meet and get quite demanding dont ever change " aw thanks! likewise! I'm old and set in my ways so I doubt I'll change much haha! I am demanding, but more in the ways of what kind of men I meet. But I really try and treat everyone the way I want to be treated. Hence, I can sometimes get a bit disappointed when they don't live up to my hopes e.g. being rude. But that's an area I still seem to need to work at and change | |||
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"Let's have some reality here. It probably right that most couples dictate the terms. Why not? To say its like prostitution is over the top. I guess individuals here have personal axes to grind. A couple refusing to meet on the males terms " Don't think I have ever know a couple to meet a guy on his terms isn't it about comprimise if people want to meet - if they don't then just move on - i don't see anyone on here with an axe to grind | |||
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"Let's have some reality here. It probably right that most couples dictate the terms. Why not? " because its supposed to be mutual fun, im sorry but any guy who meets a couple who says jump and he says how high is just desparate, and im sorry if that offends, but any guy with any self respect would tell them to piss off, and id sooner be told to piss of than have a guy jump thro hoops for me because im the only person offering to meet | |||
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"feel i need to chip in here, as, in a roundabout way it was me who started this from a previous thread. firstly, i must say tha,t on said previous thread, i was not getting at the op but merely giving a warning that they could possibly find themselves on the wrong side of the law. if it's a one on one with cpls or singles, i see no problem with splitting the cost of a hotel etc, but in the ops situation, where they are inviting, and (technically) charging a number of men for sex with one female, albeit in a gang bang with a willing female, then technically and i do emphasise the word technically, it is a group of men paying for sex. this was what i was trying to warn the op about, as previously stated, it is imho, a very grey area, and some disgruntled gent could, maybe report it to the law, which COULD result in prosecution. maybe i'm wrong, i dont know, all i was trying to say was. be very very careful" you are not wrong and without going into details gb organisers can be done for pimping. As i said before its not about intent as far as the law is concerned | |||
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"Maybe we should rethink things. When it comes to it we can afford to pay for the room, when we started asking for chip into costs it was never about the money, but to deter and filter out the time wasters. We thought is someone chucks some money into the night they will show up and that has worked so far, no one has left unhappy (see verifications). Peoples thoughts have given us quite a bit to think about." if it works for you keep doing it We all do things some wont agree with, your not breaking the site rules by asking for help with costs and lets be honest no matter what we do some will agree some wont If its working for you carry on doing it | |||
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"When discussing another issue recently on fabs it was suggested recently that taking money towards gangbang costs could be _iewed as charging for sex. Personally I strongly disagree. It is not considered paying for sex when we pay to go to a swingers club. Yes it is there for sex and we have sex there, but freely. The money element is about providing the space. If holding a gang bang I consider it reasonable the cost gets split between me and the guys. To get a hotel in town(Bristol) where we can get to rooms without passing reception as well as a bag of drinks and big box of condoms costs around 120/130 quid usually. If I get 4 single guys to chip in 25 quid each I think that is fair.It is not commercial or selling sex, all kitty gets spent on putting on the night. It certainly less than many swingers clubs charge single guys. It hardly seems fair that the woman should foot the whole bill. Most important though the money is NOT for any sex that may go on. All the guys that come to the gb nights seem happy with it, but now someone has said it is charging for sex I just wonder what others feel." You are not paying for sex at a club, you are paying for the use of the facilities only. When advertising a meet at a hotel you are offering sex and therefor by asking people to pay towards this it's where it could be considered paying for sex. However, if a couple or single have already booked the room because its the only way they can play then its down to them, if however you want to arange a meet using a hotel then split /share the cost and all stay over night and enjoy a breakfast! Difficult because someone needs to book and pay up front. Someone say it's the gentlemanly way to pay for a the lady and I can follow opening doors, giving up a seat but when it comes to sex you may find that ladies prefer to go Dutch so there's no preconceived idea that sex is def on the menu. Remember that if you're sharing the cost of the room equally then why shouldn't those sharing stay the whole night? Also what if you organise a group and one doesn't get to play do they get a refund of costs incurred for the evening.... Possible minefield! | |||
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"To be honest i think it depends on whos doing the asking, if i was talking to a guy on here and we arranged to meet in a hotel i would expect to share costs as we both agreed to get the room, however if i had already booked a room then asked someon to join me in a room i had already booked i wouldnt expect them to put towards it, as i booked the room and i asked them so why should they chip in?" Ditto,Good Answer. | |||
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"Lol if that's how you want to put it then that's how you want to put it. But on a serious note, I think it's just the way I have been brought up, or to be honest I dunno, but for me it just feels right to always pay for a girl. And if there is another male around then he should split the cost with me. Just how I feel. So even if I meet a couple I wouldn't ask the lady half. Putts kettle on and settles down for the Emily Packhursts modern day fems for all equal rights brigade to come back on this one lol not from me, i always offer to pay towards a room but if the guy insists on paying im not going to argue with him lol however i dont get the not asking the female half of a couple for money towards a room, if they are a couple its their money so no matter who gives you the cast its still coming out of her pocket as welll as his " in that case, perhaps it should be split 3 ways? | |||
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" in that case, perhaps it should be split 3 ways?" ok ban that woman from the thread this is complicated enough for some without you throwing another angle into it | |||
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" in that case, perhaps it should be split 3 ways? ok ban that woman from the thread this is complicated enough for some without you throwing another angle into it " | |||
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" To the OP, I would (and have!) pay my fair share for the room for a gangbang. But I expect to stay the night and not get kicked out after an hour! Lol " So if 5 guys pay their share for the room, all 5 stay the night? Thatll be cosy | |||
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" in that case, perhaps it should be split 3 ways? packing list for hotel meet: sexy outfit condoms lube vibrators any other naughty toys calculator " And a wallet . | |||
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" in that case, perhaps it should be split 3 ways? packing list for hotel meet: sexy outfit condoms lube vibrators any other naughty toys calculator And a wallet . " whoops! I forgot my wallet! I'll pay you back next time | |||
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