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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting?" Its wine & some grub no blowjobs at the table,no money is being exchanged! Its a meet/ wee date with a bottle of plonk & sime nachos not prostitution! Lol lol so funny | |||
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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting?" Nope, sounds like a date to me. | |||
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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting?" Or just a metaphor to be treated with respect and not purely for sex? | |||
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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting?" I call it a date. prostituting/Escorting is were money exchanges hands for sexual services. | |||
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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting?" Ok will do... you're narrow minded and naive. Sounds like a nice evening before any sexy fun starts, to me. | |||
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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting?" Your narrow minded and naive ![]() | |||
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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting?" It's a date or a social so if you have social skills you drink or eat ![]() | |||
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"If a woman states she'll only shag you after you've wined and dined her then yes, it is prostitution. Doesn't have to be an exchange of cash to qualify. Goods or services will do." Women have said to you, I'll only shag you if you buy me a meal? | |||
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"If a woman states she'll only shag you after you've wined and dined her then yes, it is prostitution. Doesn't have to be an exchange of cash to qualify. Goods or services will do. Women have said to you, I'll only shag you if you buy me a meal? " My response is to what the OP was actually suggesting. But to answer your question; no, no woman has said to me personally. However, if one did then it would definitely be classed as prostitution. | |||
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"If a woman states she'll only shag you after you've wined and dined her then yes, it is prostitution. Doesn't have to be an exchange of cash to qualify. Goods or services will do. Women have said to you, I'll only shag you if you buy me a meal? My response is to what the OP was actually suggesting. But to answer your question; no, no woman has said to me personally. However, if one did then it would definitely be classed as prostitution." It's not prostitution it's socialising | |||
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"If a woman states she'll only shag you after you've wined and dined her then yes, it is prostitution. Doesn't have to be an exchange of cash to qualify. Goods or services will do. Women have said to you, I'll only shag you if you buy me a meal? My response is to what the OP was actually suggesting. But to answer your question; no, no woman has said it to me personally. However, if one did then it would definitely be classed as prostitution. It's not prostitution it's socialising " You need to focus on the "...she'll only shag you..." part. | |||
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"If a woman states she'll only shag you after you've wined and dined her then yes, it is prostitution. Doesn't have to be an exchange of cash to qualify. Goods or services will do. Women have said to you, I'll only shag you if you buy me a meal? My response is to what the OP was actually suggesting. But to answer your question; no, no woman has said it to me personally. However, if one did then it would definitely be classed as prostitution. It's not prostitution it's socialising You need to focus on the "...she'll only shag you..." part." but you just said nobody had asked you that and certainly nobody has asked the Op that either his original question or point was they say they would enjoy being wined and dined, that's like saying it would be nice as a social meet to be wined and dined, it's not saying or intimating one way or the other that sex will be withheld or given ![]() | |||
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"If a woman states she'll only shag you after you've wined and dined her then yes, it is prostitution. Doesn't have to be an exchange of cash to qualify. Goods or services will do.Women have said to you, I'll only shag you if you buy me a meal? " Make it x x x x x large pls & dont be greedy with the fries hahaha | |||
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"If a woman states she'll only shag you after you've wined and dined her then yes, it is prostitution. Doesn't have to be an exchange of cash to qualify. Goods or services will do.Women have said to you, I'll only shag you if you buy me a meal? Make it x x x x x large pls & dont be greedy with the fries hahaha " lol cmon that's not helping my argument here | |||
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"Also many women would rather go halves on a social and pay their way so that men don't feel enetitled to sex from them afterwards." Entitled men always feel entitled. They will find a reason. | |||
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"Also many women would rather go halves on a social and pay their way so that men don't feel enetitled to sex from them afterwards. Entitled men always feel entitled. They will find a reason. " True. That's why i let them pay and don't fuck them, they've got to learn the hard way. ![]() | |||
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"If a woman states she'll only shag you after you've wined and dined her then yes, it is prostitution. Doesn't have to be an exchange of cash to qualify. Goods or services will do. Women have said to you, I'll only shag you if you buy me a meal? My response is to what the OP was actually suggesting. But to answer your question; no, no woman has said it to me personally. However, if one did then it would definitely be classed as prostitution. It's not prostitution it's socialising You need to focus on the "...she'll only shag you..." part. but you just said nobody had asked you that and certainly nobody has asked the Op that either his original question or point was they say they would enjoy being wined and dined, that's like saying it would be nice as a social meet to be wined and dined, it's not saying or intimating one way or the other that sex will be withheld or given ![]() Again, "If a woman states she'll only shag you..." | |||
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"If a woman states she'll only shag you after you've wined and dined her then yes, it is prostitution. Doesn't have to be an exchange of cash to qualify. Goods or services will do. Women have said to you, I'll only shag you if you buy me a meal? My response is to what the OP was actually suggesting. But to answer your question; no, no woman has said it to me personally. However, if one did then it would definitely be classed as prostitution. It's not prostitution it's socialising You need to focus on the "...she'll only shag you..." part. but you just said nobody had asked you that and certainly nobody has asked the Op that either his original question or point was they say they would enjoy being wined and dined, that's like saying it would be nice as a social meet to be wined and dined, it's not saying or intimating one way or the other that sex will be withheld or given ![]() What if she wants a meal and the guy won't pay for one coz he thinks paying for sex is prostitution (prostitution is legal but not allowed on fab but taking someone out for a meal is totally allowed on fab). Is he devaluing womens market value and does he think sex will be better if she's hungry coz she'll suck that dick like it's food? I'm good at making up hypotheticals. | |||
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"If a woman states she'll only shag you after you've wined and dined her then yes, it is prostitution. Doesn't have to be an exchange of cash to qualify. Goods or services will do. Women have said to you, I'll only shag you if you buy me a meal? My response is to what the OP was actually suggesting. But to answer your question; no, no woman has said it to me personally. However, if one did then it would definitely be classed as prostitution. It's not prostitution it's socialising You need to focus on the "...she'll only shag you..." part. but you just said nobody had asked you that and certainly nobody has asked the Op that either his original question or point was they say they would enjoy being wined and dined, that's like saying it would be nice as a social meet to be wined and dined, it's not saying or intimating one way or the other that sex will be withheld or given ![]() I'm good at sticking to the point* ![]() | |||
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"Also many women would rather go halves on a social and pay their way so that men don't feel enetitled to sex from them afterwards. Entitled men always feel entitled. They will find a reason. " First of all I am not disagreeing with you. It is true. But what about entitled women? Women that demand to live in an equal world instead of an old fashioned one, yet also demand to keep being treated the old fashioned way when it they get stuff out of it? A woman isn't entitled to expect a man to pay to take her out and a man isn't entitled to sex. Nobody should be entitled to anything. In my opinion this is especially important on a swingers site. Men and women are here for the same reason. It is not a date, in a dating scenario it would be more acceptable if a man wanted to pay, but again a woman should not feel entitled to it. There is no reason whatsoever the woman couldn't pay for the man either | |||
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" Again, "If a woman states she'll only shag you..."" To me there is a difference, albeit subtle one, between saying... she'll only shag you... (which isn't actually a guarantee) And She'll shag you if... | |||
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"Also many women would rather go halves on a social and pay their way so that men don't feel enetitled to sex from them afterwards. Entitled men always feel entitled. They will find a reason. First of all I am not disagreeing with you. It is true. But what about entitled women? Women that demand to live in an equal world instead of an old fashioned one, yet also demand to keep being treated the old fashioned way when it they get stuff out of it? A woman isn't entitled to expect a man to pay to take her out and a man isn't entitled to sex. Nobody should be entitled to anything. In my opinion this is especially important on a swingers site. Men and women are here for the same reason. It is not a date, in a dating scenario it would be more acceptable if a man wanted to pay, but again a woman should not feel entitled to it. There is no reason whatsoever the woman couldn't pay for the man either" you should be entitled to the fifth amendment, you should be entitled to manners, you should be entitled to a pension | |||
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"Also many women would rather go halves on a social and pay their way so that men don't feel enetitled to sex from them afterwards. Entitled men always feel entitled. They will find a reason. First of all I am not disagreeing with you. It is true. But what about entitled women? Women that demand to live in an equal world instead of an old fashioned one, yet also demand to keep being treated the old fashioned way when it they get stuff out of it? A woman isn't entitled to expect a man to pay to take her out and a man isn't entitled to sex. Nobody should be entitled to anything. In my opinion this is especially important on a swingers site. Men and women are here for the same reason. It is not a date, in a dating scenario it would be more acceptable if a man wanted to pay, but again a woman should not feel entitled to it. There is no reason whatsoever the woman couldn't pay for the man either" She should not feel entitled to anything. The etiquette is whoever invites the other party, pays. It is absolutely nothing to do with the nature of the site. | |||
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" Again, "If a woman states she'll only shag you..." To me there is a difference, albeit subtle one, between saying... she'll only shag you... (which isn't actually a guarantee) And She'll shag you if... " Oh please ![]() | |||
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"Also many women would rather go halves on a social and pay their way so that men don't feel enetitled to sex from them afterwards. Entitled men always feel entitled. They will find a reason. " But women who demand drinks and food aren't entitled. ![]() | |||
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"Also many women would rather go halves on a social and pay their way so that men don't feel enetitled to sex from them afterwards. Entitled men always feel entitled. They will find a reason. First of all I am not disagreeing with you. It is true. But what about entitled women? Women that demand to live in an equal world instead of an old fashioned one, yet also demand to keep being treated the old fashioned way when it they get stuff out of it? A woman isn't entitled to expect a man to pay to take her out and a man isn't entitled to sex. Nobody should be entitled to anything. In my opinion this is especially important on a swingers site. Men and women are here for the same reason. It is not a date, in a dating scenario it would be more acceptable if a man wanted to pay, but again a woman should not feel entitled to it. There is no reason whatsoever the woman couldn't pay for the man either" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"It is a social time/ meal out! Nothing complicated here, I do it with friends, good conversation and company. " Precisely this! When did having a meal and a glass of wine with anyone become prostitution or entitlement? | |||
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"The first lesson we learn as babies, is that if we do X, we will receive Y. We're programmed from birth to react to all forms of bribery and coercion. This stays with us, thus, if you take me out for dinner and buy me things, I will in turn be more likely to do nice things for you. It's not prostitution, it's reward behaviour." How can adult decision making be compared to an infants selfish survival instincts? What you have said is that unless we are having benefit we are unlikely to give. Well be assured if a man did happen to pay for dinner my last thought would be io him a bj etc. No amount of " niceness" would encourage me to do anything not organically happening without materialistic things. Anyhow it's only fecking dinner lol | |||
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"The first lesson we learn as babies, is that if we do X, we will receive Y. We're programmed from birth to react to all forms of bribery and coercion. This stays with us, thus, if you take me out for dinner and buy me things, I will in turn be more likely to do nice things for you. It's not prostitution, it's reward behaviour. How can adult decision making be compared to an infants selfish survival instincts? What you have said is that unless we are having benefit we are unlikely to give. Well be assured if a man did happen to pay for dinner my last thought would be io him a bj etc. No amount of " niceness" would encourage me to do anything not organically happening without materialistic things. Anyhow it's only fecking dinner lol " I carefully used the term "more likely". The gist being, if you're kind to me, I'll be nice to you. I wasn't for one second suggesting that buying dinner was a literal form of payment for sexual acts - merely that rewarding is something we learn when we're young, and that traces of that behaviour remain. | |||
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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting?" So would you class it as prostitution / escorting if that was on a dating site ?? Or on a dating site if a woman said she just wanted to meet for sex would you class that as slaggy ?? Personally being offered a nice evening out as a prelude to a hot meet would be a lovely way to hook up with someone Swinging isn’t JUST about the sex you know ! That’s why swinging clubs are so popular - a sexy night full of flirting and fun #lookingforthefaceplantemoji ![]() | |||
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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting? So would you class it as prostitution / escorting if that was on a dating site ?? Or on a dating site if a woman said she just wanted to meet for sex would you class that as slaggy ?? Personally being offered a nice evening out as a prelude to a hot meet would be a lovely way to hook up with someone Swinging isn’t JUST about the sex you know ! That’s why swinging clubs are so popular - a sexy night full of flirting and fun #lookingforthefaceplantemoji ![]() Would someone say though on a dating site? I'm not sure they would, though I also agree with you, there's nothing wrong with it. I have (and do) offer to take people out for dinner as part of a get together (or meet *cringe* as people say on here) though as above, I wouldn't suggest it was a prelude to sex, especially on a date, but also on here, since nobody owes another person anything, especially their sexual choices. I think there's a common misconception, mostly among (mainstream) men that things like drinks/dinner are all part of a sexual transaction. There was a case in the news recently of a guy contacting a Tinder date to reclaim the expenses he incurred on a date after she didn't sleep with him. Male entitlement at its ugliest and absolute finest. Total dick. Expectation that a man will pay for everything is not an attractive trait in my view, though I would always offer to pay because it feels like a nice thing to do. It certainly does not have any transactive connotation. | |||
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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting? So would you class it as prostitution / escorting if that was on a dating site ?? Or on a dating site if a woman said she just wanted to meet for sex would you class that as slaggy ?? Personally being offered a nice evening out as a prelude to a hot meet would be a lovely way to hook up with someone Swinging isn’t JUST about the sex you know ! That’s why swinging clubs are so popular - a sexy night full of flirting and fun #lookingforthefaceplantemoji ![]() That’s not what your question was asking You were asking if profiles on here saying they would like to be wined and dined is like prostitution / escorting Which it’s not Now you are staying that they are expecting a man to pay for everything .... who said that they are looking to meet men ?? Prostitution is the exchange of money for sexual gratification Escorting is an exchange of money for time and or sex Being wined and dined could be a date in exchange for nothing | |||
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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting? So would you class it as prostitution / escorting if that was on a dating site ?? Or on a dating site if a woman said she just wanted to meet for sex would you class that as slaggy ?? Personally being offered a nice evening out as a prelude to a hot meet would be a lovely way to hook up with someone Swinging isn’t JUST about the sex you know ! That’s why swinging clubs are so popular - a sexy night full of flirting and fun #lookingforthefaceplantemoji ![]() You're confused, It wasn't my question. I'm not the OP. I may have taken this off on a bit of a tangent, but essentially I agreed with you. Just to reiterate, I am NOT the OP on this thread. | |||
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"Quick question.... I've notice that there are plenty female profiles where ladies want to be wine and dined. Call me narrow minded or naive but is this a form of prostitution/escorting? Nope, sounds like a date to me." This ![]() | |||
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"OP, you must be a riot to date... ![]() Agree ![]() | |||
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"OP, you must be a riot to date... ![]() ![]() People use this site to date too but I think the term is being used for a specific type of social. What end result is the same? I don't understand as it sounds like you are implying that if you wine and dine someone on here or have a social, that you are definitely going to get laid and that is most definitely not the case... And why are alot of the men assuming these women will not pay for themselves?! I rarely don't pay at least my half, even when out with people I know. | |||
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"OP, you must be a riot to date... ![]() ![]() No if you saw my posts earlier on I am in the same position as you and you have taken what I said the wrong way. The last bit was only because I made the comment on my view of calling it a date over a social. My point being that it doesn't matter if you call it either, the "end result" of whether you would have sex or not have sex with them would be the same no matter what | |||
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"OP, you must be a riot to date... ![]() ![]() The end result isn't always the same. I only go on dates. No chance I'll be fucking them afterwards. | |||
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"OP, you must be a riot to date... ![]() ![]() Fair point ![]() | |||
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"A dates a date, a meets a meet and a meal is a meal if they were anything else and it would be confusing, some women who've been doing this a while enjoy the social aspect of it all and so do I, if you're tight you're tight that can't be helped it's a product of your financial stability but to call a woman a prostitute is really quite ridiculous, some people will take advantage of you I've had this only once and it didn't affect me, it does seem to me that starting this thread will not help you getting meets and why would you doing anything to affect that? ![]() do not doing jeez | |||
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"Common people the term 'date' means just a date in the calender!! Not necessarly just romantic anything ... I make 'dates' with family and friends etc Appointments are official ie drs or garage etc But you can have a date with anyone for any reason! Same as a social can be with anyone for any reason ... we makes dates for socials!! Let's not coin 'social' or 'date' to be different from what they are intended to be! ![]() ![]() ![]() Yeah the whole date/social thing is getting out of hand. It was a simple comment that going out for a meal and expecting the guy to pay is more like a date than a social to me Nothing more to it really. Back to the OP and his original prostitute thinking ![]() | |||
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"Common people the term 'date' means just a date in the calender!! Not necessarly just romantic anything ... I make 'dates' with family and friends etc Appointments are official ie drs or garage etc But you can have a date with anyone for any reason! Same as a social can be with anyone for any reason ... we makes dates for socials!! Let's not coin 'social' or 'date' to be different from what they are intended to be! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hahahahahahaha ![]() | |||
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"Common people the term 'date' means just a date in the calender!! Not necessarly just romantic anything ... I make 'dates' with family and friends etc Appointments are official ie drs or garage etc But you can have a date with anyone for any reason! Same as a social can be with anyone for any reason ... we makes dates for socials!! Let's not coin 'social' or 'date' to be different from what they are intended to be! ![]() ![]() ![]() ahhhh cmon a social is where loads turn up and buffet is free just tuck in chat with mouth full and go a date is meal drinks ring hat omg boom titty boom and a meet is omg get your clothes off now am I right or am I right ![]() | |||
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"OP, you must be a riot to date... ![]() ![]() Some single ladies actually like male company, conversation, flirting and if their preferance is to do that over a relaxed meal, why not? You get that with your husband plus casual sex from meets if you want it. Why can't a single woman have both also? | |||
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