FabSwingers.com forum: the single girl... swinger or slut?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I always read the forums with interest so though I would try a new post out... kind of along the lines of one I posted a few weeks back but with a slight difference.

Until recently I always thought that the single girls on the site had it all but am seriously beginning to take a different _iew.

Rather than "browsing" profiles i tend to just look at the profiles of people that have looked at me. I'm particularly looking to meet with couples for friendship and possibly more but have noticed that increasingly instead of the "no single male" appearing on the profile there seems to be alot of attacks at the single fem...

In a nutshell they seem to suggest that single women shouldnt be on a swingers site... but on sex sites instead in that they believe that a single woman who meets with a single man on a swinger site is not a swinger just a slut.

This has taken me back abit... are they saying that if a couple chose to play with a single fem (or single male) that this is ok because they allow it and after all as a couple they should have that right and they are allowed to call themselves swingers? but the single fem is not allowed to find fun on her own? In most cases the couples want a woman for the bi sex element and that is also considered acceptable along the lines of if you are a single female and you want to have sex with my wife and me then feel free and yes we will call that swinging but if you have met and had sex with a single man then you can't?

Hummmmmmmm... Your thoughts and _iews of this seemingly double standards perplexes me and I welcome your _iews as I find it somewhat hard to diggest.

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

anyone who describes someone else as a slut on here doesn't grasp the purpose of the site.

now what someone describes themselves as, a different matter.

if I am honest, I don't see the difference between a swingers site and a sex site..... ( now some may say I don't grasp the purpose of the site )

and that is cool.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

well i only meet single men, had far to many problems with couples in the past, men wont judge you for being single as they are single too and basically i dont give a flying fig what couples think of me as i dont wabt meet them anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if I am honest, I don't see the difference between a swingers site and a sex site..... "

nor me, people on here are after sex so isnt it a sex site?

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

if I am honest, I don't see the difference between a swingers site and a sex site.....

nor me, people on here are after sex so isnt it a sex site?"

I believe everyone who signs up does so to explore something sexual....

chat, pics, penetration, oral, letters, stories, wanking, dogging and the list goes on... all underpinned by SEX.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

depends what numbers shes racking up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"well i only meet single men, had far to many problems with couples in the past, men wont judge you for being single as they are single too and basically i dont give a flying fig what couples think of me as i dont wabt meet them anyway "

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

i agree... but again is one "category" judging another against their own beliefs that astound me... were they never single themselves? and when they were... did they not ever have sex... as i say i think it's mad...

probably best to stay clear of them... and best i sign up to a "sex site"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We want to go on record and say that we're very happy to meet sluts and we won't judge them for their filthy, decadent behaviour

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By *iewMan
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over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

"We want to go on record and say that we're very happy to meet sluts and we won't judge them for their filthy, decadent behaviour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i agree... but again is one "category" judging another against their own beliefs that astound me... were they never single themselves? and when they were... did they not ever have sex... as i say i think it's mad...

probably best to stay clear of them... and best i sign up to a "sex site"

nah stick with me kid i know some nice single guys

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"nah stick with me kid i know some nice single guys

... i might just take you up on that... if you have any spare let me know

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By *thwalescplCouple
over a year ago

brecon

Some people talk bollocks!

Whether its a "sex" site, or this site, we ultimately are all after the same thing, sex with others.

If anything, I feel single females are better off being on here than on some of the other type of sites, it seems much less "anonomous", especially if they are meeting couples.

It may be jealousy, after all, as a single fem you are probably very popular, and maybe "they" are a bit miffed about you having more fun than them.

Bottom line, don't let them get you down, just enjoy what you do and dont worry about labels thrown around.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" If anything, I feel single females are better off being on here than on some of the other type of sites, it seems much less "anonomous", especially if they are meeting couples.

i agree that i feel safer on this site and within this community... have been on dating sites and they pretty much all looking for sex too.. but at least here we all know what we are looking for... no pretence... don't get me wrong if the true nature of "swinging" is to enjoy sex with other couples (threesomes, foursomes etc)then i'm there but occassionally what is wrong with wanting just 1 on 1 with the opposite sex?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I question myself about this. I am not a swinger as I am single and only meet single men, so yes I use this as a sex site, but I like the social element too.

Am I slut? Well I have definitely had sex with more men than the average female. I love sex and variety so in a lot of people's eyes I am a slut. But i like to think that people in the swinging world are less judgmental and don't tend to label people so much x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I question myself about this. I am not a swinger as I am single and only meet single men, so yes I use this as a sex site, but I like the social element too.

however they obviously aren't maybe swingers aren't as liberated as we all think???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I wasn't sure if this was the right site for me initially but it has a nice feel about it & as you say as opposed to dating sites you can be specific about what you really want plus initially I am only meeting single guys but hoping to meet one that I can then explore some of my other fantasies with in the future

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple
over a year ago

hexham

i am a swinger and a slut

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i am a swinger and a slut

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I question myself about this. I am not a swinger as I am single and only meet single men, so yes I use this as a sex site, but I like the social element too.

Thats what i always say, i do not class myself as a swingers im a single woman using a swingers site to get sex...nothing more nothing less

Its just easier than finding it out there in the real world, i like that fact i can meet someone off here, get what i want and leave never having to see them again, in the 'real world' your always going to risk bumping into them, them telling their mates etc

this site just word ideally for my needs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Singali, as long you are comfortable exploring your sexuality don' bother what others have to say... most people are hypocrites... I am sure you will find many like minded people in here... hope you have a wonderful time =). You already have some friends in this thread =).

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By *bbandflowCouple
over a year ago

South Devon

The definition 'Swinger' has evolved from the keys on the table swap perception to embrace the multi spectrum of sexual activity seen on this site. Single fems in the vanguard of this evolution..long may it remain!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We think single females have the right to choose whatever they want same as the rest of us and just because they enjoy sex and don't want the emotional attachments that come with a relationship doesn't mean they are sluts it just means they are independent.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"The definition 'Swinger' has evolved from the keys on the table swap perception to embrace the multi spectrum of sexual activity seen on this site. Single fems in the vanguard of this evolution..long may it remain!! "

I agree that it has evolved, but singles looking for sex cannot be swingers! If you class the singles on here as swingers, then so are all those millions of people who go out on a weekend looking for a shag at the local pub/club!

If you stood around in a car dealership for a while, would that make you a car sales person? Of course not (unless you really were!) Just because you have found and joined a swingers site, it doen't make you a swinger!

Just my _iew!

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

As for are singles sluts for having lots of sex? Nope! The words like slut, whore and any terms like that for men or women are outdated and are normally used by people who don't get any!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm sure there's good couples out there. I've only spoken with one. Left before we could meet up. Gutted.

As for the OP, one a site like this, I think it's more about how the woman sees herself than how we see her.

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By *teven_GrayMan
over a year ago

North West

This is a sex site, women meet men, men meet couples, men meet men, women meet couples it really doesn't matter BUT what does matter is everyone respects each other and lets everyone just get on with there own business.

As for single women been sluts? were all sluts and i LOVE it and LOVE this site

If there wasn't single men and single ladies on here and just couples it would be pretty shit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

you speak for yourself im not a slut

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I regard Eva as a very classy lady but I have watched as 6 guys took their turn to fuck her and she loved it. She loves cock and has fucked loads of guys. Does that make her a slut, slapper etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I regard Eva as a very classy lady but I have watched as 6 guys took their turn to fuck her and she loved it. She loves cock and has fucked loads of guys. Does that make her a slut, slapper etc."

see im with you on that one, i love all kinds of sex from intimate 1 on 1 to full on gang bangs i dont regard myself as a slut, sluts are what 15 years old call each other on the play groud cause their boyfriends looked at you, i just see myself as a woman who loves sex and no afraid to go for what i want

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By *teven_GrayMan
over a year ago

North West

"you speak for yourself im not a slut

sorryyyy i take that part back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"you speak for yourself im not a slut

sorryyyy i take that part back

good job now get your cock out lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You cannot liberate others only yourself. My advice, stop minding what people write in their profiles, those that demand perfection, or anything else, have a twisted, often very wrong opinion of themselves. Everyone has a right to choose, who and who they wont play with, but arrogance and plain bad manners, are a bigger turn off than anything on this kind of site.

Give me your relaxed, laughing and friendly, and I will try to bring a sigh and smile. Bring me your "attractive", "professional" and demanding, and I will turn my back...... No matter how pretty the FooFoo

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By *teven_GrayMan
over a year ago

North West

"you speak for yourself im not a slut

sorryyyy i take that part back

good job now get your cock out lol

lol OK but u get your tits out first!

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By *ush_tushWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

I agree with what most have said in this thread but here's my piece.

As a single woman on this site for a good while, its absolutely ideal for me, regardless of how I see myself, I get EXACTLY what I want on here...far better than hitting Mathew Street bars! I also believe that its one of the few areas were we women have a lot of power - we can be specific in our wants and needs and choose as and when it happens (and with whom)- nothin better in my book. As for how we single women may be regarded by couples, dont worry about it. We get one chance in this world, do with it what YOU will!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We want to go on record and say that we're very happy to meet sluts and we won't judge them for their filthy, decadent behaviour

Lol I like sluts but then of course I am one so maybe I'm biased

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By *onnoisseur100Man
over a year ago

Woking-ish

"i am a swinger and a slut

+1"

GOOD!

If somebody wants to call themselves a slut, that's fine.

I like people who like having sex, in that way I'm a slut, not necessary any particular gender. Definitely not a derogatory term. I wouldn't call anybody a sult who hadn't already called themselves one.

I fail to see where single or otherwise comes into it.

There are many sluts on here who are in a couple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

me too and i love it!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think I'm a bit of a slut lol. I used to enjoy meeting couples but I don't now so I guess i'm defo not a swinger. I see fab as a sex site where I meet other likeminded men to have sex with....I couldn't care if i'm labelled etc. I like sex and I couldn't give a toss what others think.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The best thing I have ever read was on this site and was on a single womans profile (I'm paraphrasing); 'What gives you the right to not be offended?'

It's their issue if they have a problem with you or your lifestyle and not yours! So they feel a need to label? Some people are small minded and shallow, do what you want and have fun; as long as no one is being actively hurt (erm...unless they want to be!) then whats the issue?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

at the end of the day.... i dont care what anyone else does / says / thinks. It doesnt affect me because i dont let it. I have fun, in whatever way i choose

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By *inktherapyCouple
over a year ago

Gloucester

If there wasn't single men and single ladies on here and just couples it would be pretty shit

Yep - and that's speaking as part of a couple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am what I am and I do what I do. My life, my choice. And woe betide anyone who criticises my right to be me

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By *heekychezzaWoman
over a year ago

warrington

Just my _iew!"

Hmmm... not at all sure about this...I joined the site back in 2009 as a single. When I started I only met single men. Later had a couple of MFM's and then met my girlie and her partner and discovered a whole different part of myself, so started playing with couples. In 2010 I started a relationship with my partner who I met at a party arranged through the site and we've been together ever since. We play together with singles, couples and groups....and we also occasionally play separately. So, by your definition I'm not a swinger when I go on 1-2-1 meets.

Personally I think couples who only play with couples should stick with the "wife-swapping' label. I think swinging has evolved from that...to me anyone who is using the site for NSA sexual fun certainly with more than one other person is a swinger...otherwise what do you call couples who only meet with singles?

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area

To me a "slut" (don't like the word) is someone who will go out and fuck ANY man/woman that offers! And does it all the time any chance they can get!

I would say that 95% of the single women on here don't do that!

They won't meet just anyone, they are picky and they choose someone they have an attraction to!

Are they sluts? No...they are independent women living life to the full with men that they chose to have fun with!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"To me a "slut" (don't like the word) is someone who will go out and fuck ANY man/woman that offers! And does it all the time any chance they can get!

I would say that 95% of the single women on here don't do that!

They won't meet just anyone, they are picky and they choose someone they have an attraction to!

Are they sluts? No...they are independent women living life to the full with men that they chose to have fun with!

even sluts offline are usually still picky to some point,

its not that they will go with anyone as i dont think you get too many like that as they still people and dont want to feel like crap over what they like to do,

but i think that they will go with someone when their minds set on it and pick the best from their options maybe

but terms like this are so loose, often usually get banded about when some guy gets knocked back off someone he thinks should of fucked him!

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area

As I said...."To me"...I would only ever consider calling a woman a slut if she fell into the category that I stated...

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By *ath-N-DelCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow area

We have our own definitions of the word "slut"...

Doesn't make someone one though...

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple
over a year ago

North Cornwall

Well firstly ignoring the slut reference as answered that one on the previous thread. Secondly, no I don't think that singles meeting singles is swinging. Thirdly, we only meet singles so don't know whether that can be classed as swinging either. In conclusion can't say I give a lot of though to naming and categorising groups or caring much about what others choose to do as long as it doesn't affect us I guess. If I were to become a single myself would I be on here... Probably not. It's a very personal choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I regard Eva as a very classy lady but I have watched as 6 guys took their turn to fuck her and she loved it. She loves cock and has fucked loads of guys. Does that make her a slut, slapper etc."
no its makes her like sex. And thats all it makes her .

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By *kyblue2681Woman
over a year ago

manchester

id like to think it makes me open to new things meeting new people and someone who likes sex

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Double standards

between the sexes??

On this site!!!

Joking apart, no it doesn't surprise me in the least, neither does it bother me... folk can think what they like, run their profiles how they like, same as I do...

I will have sex with who I like and it will only become personal, if someone makes it personal... I can still walk away..

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By *avalier_JTMan
over a year ago

Midlands & Beyond

People have no right to judge others. In my opinion, those that do have their own issues that that they find difficulty reconciling for themselves. Swinging, in whatever form it takes, is supposed to be fun and games for grown ups. Name calling and labelling is for children and the immature (and the poorly/un-educated). Just my opinion!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People have no right to judge others. In my opinion, those that do have their own issues that that they find difficulty reconciling for themselves. Swinging, in whatever form it takes, is supposed to be fun and games for grown ups. Name calling and labelling is for children and the immature (and the poorly/un-educated). Just my opinion! "
why is it men dont get alot of the name calling ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

because we still live in a world where over all sexually open women are seen as a bad thing yet its always been more acceptable for men to be more open sexually

And i dont mean the opinions of people on here i mean society as a whole

Saying that even on here you still get some who can be rude to people who meet a lot, ive seen it many times where profiles with lots of verifications are criticized

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

All my life ive been what you could describe as a "good time girl" i live in a small town and everyone knows everyones business, yet to my knowledge ive never been called anything derogratory. But i do know some women that have done far less than me that have been called all sorts.

Maybe its because ive never giving a monkies what people think and just get on with it, or maybe they are just good at talking behind my back without me getting to know about it lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does it matter what some may label you as? Some people like being called a slut some say they are open sexually! What is in a name people in this world will try and drag you down to make themselfs feel better

Times change so do meanings in the words we use, swinging has changed alot since it started and most people couldnt do what they want to do without the singles of both sexes on here if you are having fun does it matter?

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By *empting Devil.Woman
over a year ago

Sheffield

I joined this site after getting fed up with the numpties, freaks and stalkers I encountered on other sexy dating sites. I certainly didn't consider myself a swinger.when I joined, just a sexually liberated single woman looking for more straightforward no strings sex.

Which I found.

But I also found a strong, welcoming community which invited me, was supportive and (mostly) non-judgemental.

I've attended socials, joined clubs and made some strong friendships.

Yes I consider myself to ne a swinger now. I don't care what others consider me to be. Thats their hang-up not mine.

Many outside the swinging world consider us ALL to be sluts, why add.to the name calling and judging?

As a single female I get far more support from the site and from others who use the site or attend clubs etc than I ever did looking for NSA fun elsewhere. I feel much safer and I feel much more confident to say thanks but no to people I have met through fab than I ever did using other sites.

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By *ovely CummingsWoman
over a year ago

Peaky Nipples

Just my _iew!

This is my take on it - couples who play with other couples are wife swapping

Everything else is swinging - those out on the pull in town that are ONLY looking for a shag are swinging, they just don't know it

in 2012 though, does it really matter what labels are attached? - as long as it's fun and consensual

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By *ovely CummingsWoman
over a year ago

Peaky Nipples

"I joined this site after getting fed up with the numpties, freaks and stalkers I encountered on other sexy dating sites. I certainly didn't consider myself a swinger.when I joined, just a sexually liberated single woman looking for more straightforward no strings sex.

Which I found.

But I also found a strong, welcoming community which invited me, was supportive and (mostly) non-judgemental.

I've attended socials, joined clubs and made some strong friendships.

Yes I consider myself to ne a swinger now. I don't care what others consider me to be. Thats their hang-up not mine.

Many outside the swinging world consider us ALL to be sluts, why add.to the name calling and judging?

the term swinging has, I think, become an umbrella one for the sexually liberated - it's a little archaic imho to only see swinging as for couples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It seems to me that people come on this site for a range of reasons. My personal experiences with single women is that thay have been lovely people and a pleasure to meet, even before the hanky panky starts. I do not think single women on here are sluts... however they may enjoy 'playing the slut'? to broaden their experiences or push boundries.

To be honest, I take people as I find them and would hope people will do the same for me.

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By *onnoisseur100Man
over a year ago

Woking-ish

"Double standards

between the sexes??

On this site!!!

Joking apart, no it doesn't surprise me in the least, neither does it bother me... folk can think what they like, run their profiles how they like, same as I do...

I will have sex with who I like and it will only become personal, if someone makes it personal... I can still walk away.."

Please, please please let it be me, just once!

Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I question myself about this. I am not a swinger as I am single and only meet single men, so yes I use this as a sex site, but I like the social element too.

Thats what i always say, i do not class myself as a swingers im a single woman using a swingers site to get sex...nothing more nothing less

this site just word ideally for my needs"

Its probably equally as easy to get sex on here as in the real world IMHO but the quality of the sex is different. You can assert beforehand if you're into particular fetishes, kinks etc, plus it does tend to follow that people who actively pursue sex as such are going to be better at it...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

when i had a single bi fem profile, i once said thanks but no thanks to a couple who then inundated me with furious and abusive mail, along the lines of i couldn't possibly be a swinger so i must just be a greedy slut...don't think they meant it as a compliment lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its outdated now but the reason the mainstream world does this is as thus;-

Women are a hell of a lot fussier on most occasions who they sleep with. The average woman requires a man to be good looking, have the body they want, have some intelligence, be able to connect with them, project the image they want and be sexually clued up. Therefore a man who has sex with many different women is seen as someone who possesses all these qualities in abundance.

Average Men on the other hand can sleep with someone who only ticks one or two boxes as they generally have more of a biological drive to spread their seed as it were. So all a lady having many lovers shows is that she is capable of lying on her back and saying "get stuck in lads".

Unfair and harsh, but simply reflective of people's attitudes to sex in the mainstream world...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I question myself about this. I am not a swinger as I am single and only meet single men, so yes I use this as a sex site, but I like the social element too.

Thats what i always say, i do not class myself as a swingers im a single woman using a swingers site to get sex...nothing more nothing less

this site just word ideally for my needs

humm dont know i dis agree i find it much easier finding sex on here, in fact i cant remember the last time i had sex with someone i hadnt met thro swinging its probably well over 3 years ago, i honestly think if it wasnt for sites like this i wouldnt have a sex life at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I question myself about this. I am not a swinger as I am single and only meet single men, so yes I use this as a sex site, but I like the social element too.

Thats what i always say, i do not class myself as a swingers im a single woman using a swingers site to get sex...nothing more nothing less

this site just word ideally for my needs

It is easy to find sex in the real world though. Apart from those you encounter while doing everyday activities you get dozens of offers of just that following flirting of course, simply by walking into a town centre bar on an evening. Therefore finding sex is not a problem at all in the real world. But the quality of that sex will probably not be as good...

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over a year ago

ok now you speak for yourself, i never get anyone offer me sex out side of swinging, i dont walk into bars and have guys flirt with me, i dont encounter people doing everyday activities that would ever lead to sex, let be totally 100% honest now but guys who go out to bars on a saturday night arnt really looking for over weight middle aged women so in a pub full of young girls theres far to much competition for anyone to look at me, thats not a put down by the way thats just me being realistic and up front, but on here because men out number women so much guys will lower their standards to get a meet, ive met some really good looking guys who i know full well wouldnt give me a second look if they saw me walking down the street, but thats the thing about on here, im a single woman who meets single guys so that alone makes me attractive and stand out

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just my _iew!"

So those singles that you refer to, does that include the Men and TV's/TS's you say you are looking for on your profile?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As far as I'm concerned we are all swingers, single or otherwise.

If it weren't for singles it would be a load of couples wife-swapping.

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over a year ago

Just my _iew!"

do you not think swinging is more an attitude towards sex and who your playing with rather than just the act of sex itself?

lots would argue that swinging is so much more than a shag, lots love the social side, like to make friends etc which you wont get with someone out on the pull on a saturday night

lots of single likes to make friends and have regular meets and go to clubs and have 3sums, group sex, meet other couples but they are still single

Swinging isnt a marital status nor is it a sexual act, its a life style, a attitude and a mind set towards other people not just a saturday night leg over

Dont get me wrong im single and i dont class myself as a swingers but i think singles can be, if they have the right attitude

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinger or Slut, does it really matter, both looking for the same thing really.

Hate labels. You are what you are and who gives a flying fuck what others think.

Anyhows nothing wrong with being both a swinger and a slut

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By *needcocks2Woman
over a year ago

Cardiff

I agree with this totally. I never 'pull' when I'm out, but seem to be popular on here and no one,leaves me unsatisfied, me included lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

I'm not so sure. I've been on normal vanilla nights out and slept with ladies who aren't the stereotypical attractive, but I've knocked back ladies who did fit this so-called ideal, simply because the other lady either interested, excited or just plain turned me on more (the look on the faces of some of these model types was priceless lol). I like talking to everyone when on a night out anyway cos I could gob on all bloody night lol, and generally a lady I will end up sleeping with has been the one that made me think "I want to fuck you", after chatting, be it by her natural magnetism, erotic capability, hint of sexual promise, and sometimes on looks too.

I don't have a type, but I do prefer that sex is highly charged. Though people who don't look after themselves are a turn off in the case of bad hygiene or not giving a shit about their appearance I don't go for a particular height, build or age and I'm pretty sure there's plenty of other guys who feel this way so I do reiterate that you are selling yourself short when it comes to your attractive qualities to vanillas on a night out. I suppose it also depends though on how open you are with complete strangers on a night out too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if I am honest, I don't see the difference between a swingers site and a sex site...

..i don't either really, but i do understand there a bit of clear water between the two...i reckon with swing ones theres slightly more acceptance that sex is a leisurely pursuit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gonna try be eloquently impartial here... Fuck em all! If its right for you, do what you want. It's got sweet feck all to do with anyone else. There. Nice and succinct

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"depends what numbers shes racking up

You are joking right ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only ever call someone a slut if its what theyve asked for.

the days of 'swinging'-as a term doesnt mean couples with car keys in the bowl at a party

this site has a mixture of needs...but with maybe more on an emphasis on keeping it real, and without the aid of credit cards etc(and site supporting is nothing to do with this lol)

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

I agree with you 100% I'd go as far to say that a high percentage of single fems on here are BBW or large, like you say most of these women wouldn't get no attention in your everyday club or bar but in a swingers situation they can fill special..No doubt I'm going to get grief but fact is half these fems couldn't be so picky with who they have sex with away from swinging.

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

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over a year ago

We all have different _iews as to what we class as swinging,if we have sex with different people on a nsa basis wether it be couples,singles we are in theory swinging from one person to the next.Its all about pleasure,and i would never use the horrible insulting word slut about any woman,who the hell am i to judge,just because there idea of pleasure is probably different to mine.I also swing alone and with my partner too.

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over a year ago

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

Again I'm going to disagree lol, but only partially. I do agree that women will probably get more attention on here than in the "real world" simply because of the massive ratio of men to women.

What I don't agree with however is the idea first that most women are on here because they can't get sex in vanilla land. Also I don't agree that men on here will shag anything as they are glad for a meet as its easy for a man to get meets if he sells his positive qualities well enough. Furthermore a man who can't do this would probably leave swinging and pursue sex in the real world as it would be easier for him. Plus I doubt many of these men would "shag anything". Using myself as an example, like I said previously I would draw the line at having sex with anyone who stank, lacked a certain intellect, had an unpleasant personality or who made no effort whatsoever with their appearance.

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

Again I'm going to disagree lol, but only partially. I do agree that women will probably get more attention on here than in the "real world" simply because of the massive ratio of men to women.

Take a look round this site and other swing sites and tell me how many genuine single females you find under 30 and how many are a size 12 or under.... Yes no doubt these ladies could get sex in vanilla land but could they pick and choose the standard of guys they have sex with like they can in a swinging scenario ?

We've been to many clubs in the UK and Europe and in general most men would shag anything they can at a swing club or party. I didn't say all but a very high percentage are not as fussy as you might like to think.

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman
over a year ago

little house on the praire

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

Again I'm going to disagree lol, but only partially. I do agree that women will probably get more attention on here than in the "real world" simply because of the massive ratio of men to women.

So does that include the guys that shag you then with you being older than 30? Or does it just apply to others

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So as I shag single men I a slut and coz I also game to meet couples with one of the single men I a swinger. So I a swinging slut ?

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

Again I'm going to disagree lol, but only partially. I do agree that women will probably get more attention on here than in the "real world" simply because of the massive ratio of men to women.

So does that include the guys that shag you then with you being older than 30? Or does it just apply to others"

We don't shag guys we only play with couples,so don't understand your what point your trying to make.

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"So those singles that you refer to, does that include the Men and TV's/TS's you say you are looking for on your profile?"

Yes of course! I have stated that in my opinion, singles are NOT swingers! Why would that be any different just because we meet them???

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman
over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

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By *umourCouple
over a year ago

Rushden

"do you not think swinging is more an attitude towards sex and who your playing with rather than just the act of sex itself?

lots would argue that swinging is so much more than a shag, lots love the social side, like to make friends etc which you wont get with someone out on the pull on a saturday night

lots of single likes to make friends and have regular meets and go to clubs and have 3sums, group sex, meet other couples but they are still single

Swinging isnt a marital status nor is it a sexual act, its a life style, a attitude and a mind set towards other people not just a saturday night leg over

Dont get me wrong im single and i dont class myself as a swingers but i think singles can be, if they have the right attitude"

A good reasoned argument! I can see where you are coming from. The social side, that is not usually available in pubs and clubs makes it different! Yeah, I can see that.

Only problem I see is.. If a couple of people are shag friends and meet socially and sometimes shag although not an item, are they swingers too?

But I will say, unlike some of the silly statements some have used to justify singles as swingers, this one has me thinking and teetering on the edge!

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over a year ago

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

Again I'm going to disagree lol, but only partially. I do agree that women will probably get more attention on here than in the "real world" simply because of the massive ratio of men to women.

I'm afraid I'd say around a third of the women I've met on this site are under a size 12. Given that the average woman in Britain is around a size 14 this is probably a typical ratio.

Also I've had meets with quite a few ladies under 30 too. The only difference with under thirties in my mind is that they don't tend to stay on site as long, normally less than 6 months in my experience. Partly because a lot of them see swinging as an experimental phase, but also because they get fed up of trawling through hundreds of messages a day....

Hey ho, another myth debunked!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we only play with couples,so don't understand your what point your trying to make."

so if your over 30/size 12 and part of a couple who meets couple people play with you because they like you but if your single its cause they will fuck anything?

bit unfair

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By *onny BonesMan
over a year ago

a block away from heaven

Well done to OP for raising a great topic

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

... an interesting debate has ensued... for my part i will continue to do what i do... if that excludes me from meeting with couples? well to me that is their loss

after all i'm obviously not what they are looking for... infact, i think that us singles should start hosting parties and events for SINGLES (only those peeps over 30/dress size 12/and not one half of a couple need apply!!!)... not in the name of swinging (

) but as an out and out shagfest

... meant slightly tongue in cheek

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We want to go on record and say that we're very happy to meet sluts and we won't judge them for their filthy, decadent behaviour

Goody goody

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

Again I'm going to disagree lol, but only partially. I do agree that women will probably get more attention on here than in the "real world" simply because of the massive ratio of men to women.

I'm afraid I'd say around a third of the women I've met on this site are under a size 12. Given that the average woman in Britain is around a size 14 this is probably a typical ratio.

Hey ho, another myth debunked!

I'm afraid I'd say around a third of the women I've met on this site are under a size 12. Given that the average woman in Britain is around a size 14 this is probably a typical ratio.Also I've had meets with quite a few ladies under 30 too..

I'd say your verifications on here suggest different to your above statement ?

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over a year ago

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

Again I'm going to disagree lol, but only partially. I do agree that women will probably get more attention on here than in the "real world" simply because of the massive ratio of men to women.

I'm afraid I'd say around a third of the women I've met on this site are under a size 12. Given that the average woman in Britain is around a size 14 this is probably a typical ratio.

Hey ho, another myth debunked!

I'd say your verifications on here suggest different to your above statement ?"

who's measuring..i like big n small fannys

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

we only play with couples,so don't understand your what point your trying to make.

so if your over 30/size 12 and part of a couple who meets couple people play with you because they like you but if your single its cause they will fuck anything?

bit unfair

Never said anything about coules was talking about single females on here and how most of them seem to be large ladies as apposed to skinny women and older on the whole rather than younger.

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

"... an interesting debate has ensued... for my part i will continue to do what i do... if that excludes me from meeting with couples? well to me that is their loss

) but as an out and out shagfest

... meant slightly

tongue in cheek

Personally we think this would be a great idea and more clubs or parties that are couples only no singles or trying to cash in on single guys money ..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, as a single woman over 30 and definitely over a size 12 I must be the devil incarnate

However, we all have different tastes, likes and dislikes and to me that's the point of this site - there is plenty for everyone to explore and experience!

I'm not to everyone's taste and there are people I've said a polite no thanks to but I do get much more attention with my current single profile than I ever did when I was playing as a couple.

Live and let live surely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well, as a single woman over 30 and definitely over a size 12 I must be the devil incarnate

However, we all have different tastes, likes and dislikes and to me that's the point of this site - there is plenty for everyone to explore and experience!

I'm not to everyone's taste and there are people I've said a polite no thanks to but I do get much more attention with my current single profile than I ever did when I was playing as a couple.

Live and let live surely?

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I get loads of mail as couple .. but play single and together ... I think its like a candy shop here you take your pick at whats on offer some things you like better then others , pick amd mix , lol xx And we all dont like the same candy. xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well, as a single woman over 30 and definitely over a size 12 I must be the devil incarnate

However, we all have different tastes, likes and dislikes and to me that's the point of this site - there is plenty for everyone to explore and experience!

I'm not to everyone's taste and there are people I've said a polite no thanks to but I do get much more attention with my current single profile than I ever did when I was playing as a couple.

Live and let live surely?

I get loads of mail as couple .. but play single and together ... I think its like a candy shop here you take your pick at whats on offer some things you like better then others , pick amd mix , lol xx And we all dont like the same candy. xx"

Oh I love it - made me giggle and so very very true

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

So because someone is BBW or large (your words) you assume that they wouldn't get hardly any attention in a everyday bar or club?

Think that is a but unfair.....have seen plenty of ladies with a fuller figure attracting lots of male attention in pubs/bars. Surely it's more a mixture of confidence, attitude, personality & looks.....than down to size.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

we only play with couples,so don't understand your what point your trying to make.

so if your over 30/size 12 and part of a couple who meets couple people play with you because they like you but if your single its cause they will fuck anything?

bit unfair

Never said anything about coules was talking about single females on here and how most of them seem to be large ladies as apposed to skinny women and older on the whole rather than younger."

i know you didnt say anything about couples i rather think thats the point im making, women are women there are women in couples who are over 30 and over a dress size 12 but as you pointed out your not talking about them seems only the single ones attract guys who will shag anything in your eyes?

do you not think that these guys meet couples too and some of these guys arnt even single some are male halfs of couples?

its not only single guys who _iew any hole as a goal

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

So because someone is BBW or large (your words) you assume that they wouldn't get hardly any attention in a everyday bar or club?

i like teh way he thinks only single women on here are older and bigger, like every couple on the site has a 21 year old size 8

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I am both a swinger and slut..and all good with it too!

What do people class as a swinger…one to one or more than 2 people? I personally feel this site has 80% non swingers and the rest make up for proper swingers and once you gone through all the emails and profile there are some lovely genuine swingers on site who are respectful to others and have proper 3 some and more some.

As much as admin on site helps people when in need with regards to abuse or pic copying, it will always attract the time wasters and nasty people as it’s free but people _iews on what swinging is really about would only be 50% I think.

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

So because someone is BBW or large (your words) you assume that they wouldn't get hardly any attention in a everyday bar or club?

i like teh way he thinks only single women on here are older and bigger, like every couple on the site has a 21 year old size 8

I never mentioned couples,but as the amount of couples out number single fems vastly in the scene then obviously there's going to be a wide spectrum of all types..fewer single fems but the big majority are from this group as stated above..

Facts don't lie check out the site and some other sites and see for yourself.

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

And even tho now everyones going to now tell me im being stupid and to not put myself down etc we all know its true

A huge amount of guys in the swinging scene will shag anything they can get "any holes a goal" and deny it as you no doubt will we see it week in week out and clubs.

So because someone is BBW or large (your words) you assume that they wouldn't get hardly any attention in a everyday bar or club?

Correct larger women are going to get more attention in the swinging scene than looking for sex in a normal club scene

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Correct larger women are going to get more attention in the swinging scene than looking for sex in a normal club scene"

ANY women is going to get more attention in a swinging club than in a normal club, be them married, single, slim or large

Simply because your putting yourself in an envirment where your letting people know your open to offers

i bet if you put your mrs in a swingers club one night then put her in a 'normal' club another she would get 5 times more men coming onto her in the swinging club.....ANY women would

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By *pl- capdagdeCouple
over a year ago

Cap d agde,France

Correct larger women are going to get more attention in the swinging scene than looking for sex in a normal club scene

ANY women is going to get more attention in a swinging club than in a normal club, be them married, single, slim or large

Simply because your putting yourself in an envirment where your letting people know your open to offers

i bet if you put your mrs in a swingers club one night then put her in a 'normal' club another she would get 5 times more men coming onto her in the swinging club.....ANY women would"

Which brings me back to the point I made answering someone earlier in the thread...

If half these single guys were out on a sat night with their mates in normal club in town,hardly any would approach or try to chat up a large amount of the single fems on these sites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's also assuming they weren't capable of chatting up a typical lad themselves rather than the other way round and "pulling" him as a result. Which many women do in my experience.

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By *histler21Man
over a year ago

Ipswich

We are all here for our own reasons - I am not going to judge anyone's motives.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

i just think it comes down to confidance rather than age and size, if you have the confidance to put yourself out there you will get attention, if you dont people will pick up on that and stay away

There are many attractive single girls who are over 30 and over a size 12 that have no problem at all 'pulling' it all comes down to how you carry yourself and the vibes people pick up from you

Im sorry to say but i honestly think most guys would sooner have a down to earth lady of mid 30s and a size 14/16 than your typical babrie doll type girls whos only worried about if her hairs ok and wethers shes chipped a nail or not

Women like that are a novelty for the night but how many men would want one for keeps?

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over a year ago

"i just think it comes down to confidance rather than age and size, if you have the confidance to put yourself out there you will get attention, if you dont people will pick up on that and stay away

There are many attractive single girls who are over 30 and over a size 12 that have no problem at all 'pulling' it all comes down to how you carry yourself and the vibes people pick up from you

Women like that are a novelty for the night but how many men would want one for keeps?"

less hassle,more fannyjazzle

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over a year ago

"i just think it comes down to confidance rather than age and size, if you have the confidance to put yourself out there you will get attention, if you dont people will pick up on that and stay away

There are many attractive single girls who are over 30 and over a size 12 that have no problem at all 'pulling' it all comes down to how you carry yourself and the vibes people pick up from you

Women like that are a novelty for the night but how many men would want one for keeps?

less hassle,more fannyjazzle"

vajazzle

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over a year ago

"i just think it comes down to confidance rather than age and size, if you have the confidance to put yourself out there you will get attention, if you dont people will pick up on that and stay away

There are many attractive single girls who are over 30 and over a size 12 that have no problem at all 'pulling' it all comes down to how you carry yourself and the vibes people pick up from you

Women like that are a novelty for the night but how many men would want one for keeps?

less hassle,more fannyjazzle

vajazzle

say it ur way I'll say it mine.OK lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think is just makes anyone human.

Absolutly nothing wrong with putting yourself out there and having some fun so long as your safe then wheres the harm, we only have one life so may aswell make the most of it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no woman is a slag because she likes sex ........... and Size.. people are not the same ... if thay was it would be boring. As i said its like a candy shop you pick and mix here see what you like its all on offer .

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over a year ago

"no woman is a slag because she likes sex ........... and Size.. people are not the same ... if thay was it would be boring. As i said its like a candy shop you pick and mix here see what you like its all on offer ."

rather accurate way of putting it

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

"i just think it comes down to confidance rather than age and size, if you have the confidance to put yourself out there you will get attention, if you dont people will pick up on that and stay away

There are many attractive single girls who are over 30 and over a size 12 that have no problem at all 'pulling' it all comes down to how you carry yourself and the vibes people pick up from you

Well said....that's what I was trying to say but you put it so much better

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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago

South West London / Surrey

Correct larger women are going to get more attention in the swinging scene than looking for sex in a normal club scene

ANY women is going to get more attention in a swinging club than in a normal club, be them married, single, slim or large

Simply because your putting yourself in an envirment where your letting people know your open to offers

i bet if you put your mrs in a swingers club one night then put her in a 'normal' club another she would get 5 times more men coming onto her in the swinging club.....ANY women would

Which brings me back to the point I made answering someone earlier in the thread...

If half these single guys were out on a sat night with their mates in normal club in town,hardly any would approach or try to chat up a large amount of the single fems on these sites

So if your over 30 and above a size 12....you suddenly stop becoming attractive to men in everyday situations

God that's alot of women, single and otherwise, well & truely stuffed then. (or not in this case lol)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinger or Slut???

Does it really matter?

Peoples definition of a slut are very very different., Nicky loves being called my slut wife lol Your _iew of a slut and mine may differ massively.

As long as the woman is consenting and enjoys what she does she can be called whatever she likes for me lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Swinger or Slut???

Does it really matter?

Peoples definition of a slut are very very different., Nicky loves being called my slut wife lol Your _iew of a slut and mine may differ massively.

As long as the woman is consenting and enjoys what she does she can be called whatever she likes for me lol"
and there you have it Consenting ... x If ever a person calls a woman a slut he or she would have to be sure thay was ok with it .. and could end up very nasty .

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By *holesplzWoman
over a year ago

Erdington

i was called a slut last nite on here & that was just 4 not answering a message!

im cool with being called a slut & im single! & luving it x

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over a year ago

"i was called a slut last nite on here & that was just 4 not answering a message!

im cool with being called a slut & im single! & luving it x"
well a long as your ok with it ... xx sure you will get alot calling you all sorts some love it here .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So if your over 30 and above a size 12....you suddenly stop becoming attractive to men in everyday situations

God that's alot of women, single and otherwise, well & truely stuffed then. (or not in this case lol)"

You know our new thing is not pulling swingers but meeting normal guys, which means I have to go out and pull them.. its actually very fun..

and better in many ways as they dont know your automatically up for it.

But I will admit it would be a damned site easier once I am a size 12..

my age I cant change so tough lol but I certainly can pull outside fab

Cali

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