FabSwingers.com forum: Beach experience ruined

By *ampshirehotwife OP Woman
over a year ago

Hampshire

Yesterday I enjoyed my first trip to the beach of the year it was lovely sea was cold but I love the feeling of the sun on my naked body,a few guy's around leering but it's to be expected.

Towards the end of the day a couple I know turned up and say near me with their friends after a few minutes the woman came over and started chatting with me telling me that their friends had seen a guy taking pictures of me as I lay on my back.

It really spoilt a nice day in a couple of ways.

1: can't a woman just go and sunbathe without being pestered by letching weirdos.

2: why the heck didn't anyone tell me or confront him?

It's 2019 and porn is readily available at the touch of a button it's not like the naked female figure isn't out there to look at.

I know there is nothing I can do , public domain and all that but I do wonder where those pictures will end up ?

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By *hewifeandiCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Yesterday I enjoyed my first trip to the beach of the year it was lovely sea was cold but I love the feeling of the sun on my naked body,a few guy's around leering but it's to be expected.

It really spoilt a nice day in a couple of ways.

1: can't a woman just go and sunbathe without being pestered by letching weirdos.

2: why the heck didn't anyone tell me or confront him?

It's 2019 and porn is readily available at the touch of a button it's not like the naked female figure isn't out there to look at.

I know there is nothing I can do , public domain and all that but I do wonder where those pictures will end up ?"
. In his wank bank I'd imagine,it is bad that ppl have watched him do it. one day there won't be placed to go because if these lurker's are left to do this to a single female and no one said a thing why would they /you feel safe to return,easy to say but I think I'd have said something to him thing like this needs stopping,how I'm not sure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Awful that people saw what he was doing and didn't try to stop him.

Then it makes you wonder what their reasoning was in telling you? Because had you not known you wouldn't be worrying.

I suppose there isn't a lot you can do about it but be vigilant.

Hope you're ok though.

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By *imon and saffyCouple
over a year ago

southampton

"Yesterday I enjoyed my first trip to the beach of the year it was lovely sea was cold but I love the feeling of the sun on my naked body,a few guy's around leering but it's to be expected.

It really spoilt a nice day in a couple of ways.

1: can't a woman just go and sunbathe without being pestered by letching weirdos.

2: why the heck didn't anyone tell me or confront him?

It's 2019 and porn is readily available at the touch of a button it's not like the naked female figure isn't out there to look at.

I know there is nothing I can do , public domain and all that but I do wonder where those pictures will end up ?"

I have a horrible feeling that someone was taking pictures on studland yesterday. Hopefully just finding the height difference between myself and saffy amusing and nothing more negative. They were just too far away to confront them without making a scene and being potentially wrong, to be sure.

Twats

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By *ampshirehotwife OP Woman
over a year ago

Hampshire

I have always felt safe going to the beach on my own as a female. You get to know the 'regulars'.

I don't quite know what I'm more annoyed about...the fact that people around me watched him do it or the fact that I let it happen?

I am flattered that anyone wants a pic of me however, where are those pics going to end up??

Thank you all for your input xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I was there and seen him I’d have taken phone or camera off him and would have called the police there and then . We go to them places to relax and enjoy the sun hitting our naked bodies . Buy people like him spoils it for others and they feel a bit put off with it . My dear don’t let it get u down . Hopefully Nx time he will be caught . I hope ur ok urself andvtake care x

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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago

portsmouth

It is a shame that this has happen to you and we do not condone his action in any way but that is what you have to expect if you are naked on a public beach.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow that’s disgusting someone should’ve definitely confronted him x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is a shame that this has happen to you and we do not condone his action in any way but that is what you have to expect if you are naked on a public beach. "

No it is not!

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

It’s unacceptable but unfortunately it happens. Rarely, I’d hope. Don’t worry too much about who will see the photos. There are literally millions of photos of naked ladies online so the chance of someone who knows you seeing them is absolutely minimal.

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By *hongman1Man
over a year ago

Mansfield

"It is a shame that this has happen to you and we do not condone his action in any way but that is what you have to expect if you are naked on a public beach. "

It absolutely fucking is not!!!!!!

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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago

portsmouth

"It is a shame that this has happen to you and we do not condone his action in any way but that is what you have to expect if you are naked on a public beach.

No it is not! "
That is a very commendable view can you tell us how you will change this situation?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is a shame that this has happen to you and we do not condone his action in any way but that is what you have to expect if you are naked on a public beach. "

Seriously? So because a woman is naked, that gives some creep permission to take photos without her consent? Don't try to make his behaviour out to be normal. It's unacceptable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It is a shame that this has happen to you and we do not condone his action in any way but that is what you have to expect if you are naked on a public beach.

Seriously? So because a woman is naked, that gives some creep permission to take photos without her consent? Don't try to make his behaviour out to be normal. It's unacceptable. "

I just realised you said you don't condone it, so I apologise for my previous post. I don't think this is something we should expect though. We can't change it now, but we shouldn't let people get away with it and stand back and let it happen like it's a normal thing to do.

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By *nlyfun3Woman
over a year ago

NEAR Berkhamsted,Herts

Its illegal to take indecent pics of someone without their permission. If you are topless of naked that is classed as indecent. As for someone taking your picture without your consent generally isnt illegal but can been a civil offence not a lawful one. Whatever if you see someone taking pics of you naked you can report them to to police

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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago

portsmouth

"Its illegal to take indecent pics of someone without their permission. If you are topless of naked that is classed as indecent. As for someone taking your picture without your consent generally isnt illegal but can been a civil offence not a lawful one. Whatever if you see someone taking pics of you naked you can report them to to police"
Would you be able to post any relevant case law that would confirm this claim as it would be very helpful.

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By *hav02Man
over a year ago

Glasgow/London

this all comes under the Abusive Behaviour & Sexual Harm Act 2016.

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To paraphrase - disclosure of a photo/film of a person in intimate manner to the public without their consent is in turn a breach of this act.

Photography in a public place is not illegal though...so it's all up to interpretation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"this all comes under the Abusive Behaviour & Sexual Harm Act 2016.

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To paraphrase - disclosure of a photo/film of a person in intimate manner to the public without their consent is in turn a breach of this act.

Photography in a public place is not illegal though...so it's all up to interpretation.

So it is not illegal or unlawful of him to take the pictures if they are taken in public, but he cannot distribute them to public domain?

That's how I read it.

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By *nlyfun3Woman
over a year ago

NEAR Berkhamsted,Herts

https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/advice/neighbourhood-and-community/taking-photographs-in-a-public-place/

Look at this link may help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi, that's awful that someone done that to u on a nudist beach, is no where sacred.

The thing I can't stand is people getting their bits out on a normal public beach. Taking pics would still be wrong. My kids are young and I just don't want them seeing nude people yet

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By *ain n MableWoman
over a year ago

Milton Keynes

Public photography is only illegal if you are taking indecent photos.

You cannot be termed as taking an indecent photo of a naked body that's on public land unless the naked person is doing something indecent in the first place.

If you are lying naked on a public beach then you obviously want people to look at you. If not then you would lay naked in a private place.

That's the Laws unfortunately.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Naked or topless is not classed as indecent regards photos.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For those saying call the police and it is illegal, I would be interested to see what law the person is breaking by taking a picture of someone 18+ naked on a public beach.

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By *ertsguy2000Man
over a year ago

hertford

I hope someone catches the small dicked twat and shoves his camera up his arse

Totally unacceptable, massive bellend

Hope it doesn’t put you off doing something you love x

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By *ampshirehotwife OP Woman
over a year ago

Hampshire

"Public photography is only illegal if you are taking indecent photos.

You cannot be termed as taking an indecent photo of a naked body that's on public land unless the naked person is doing something indecent in the first place.

If you are lying naked on a public beach then you obviously want people to look at you. If not then you would lay naked in a private place.

That's the Laws unfortunately.

I do not lie on a beach for people to look at me!

I am a naturist.

Definition of naturism: the belief that nakedness is beneficial to health and emotional wellbeing

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By *ampshirehotwife OP Woman
over a year ago

Hampshire

"For those saying call the police and it is illegal, I would be interested to see what law the person is breaking by taking a picture of someone 18+ naked on a public beach."

If you were out and about shopping and someone came up to you and took a picture of you, how would you react? I'm sure you wouldn't think... "ok, they're not breaking the law because I'm over 18?"

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Public photography is only illegal if you are taking indecent photos.

You cannot be termed as taking an indecent photo of a naked body that's on public land unless the naked person is doing something indecent in the first place.

If you are lying naked on a public beach then you obviously want people to look at you. If not then you would lay naked in a private place.

That's the Laws unfortunately.

If a person is laying naked on a naturist beach they're often doing it because they enjoy being naked in the sunshine, on a beach. That's why we do it. It's got nothing to do with wanting people to look at us. Nudity on a naturist beach isn't sexual or exhibitionism it's naturism.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"For those saying call the police and it is illegal, I would be interested to see what law the person is breaking by taking a picture of someone 18+ naked on a public beach.

If you were out and about shopping and someone came up to you and took a picture of you, how would you react? I'm sure you wouldn't think... "ok, they're not breaking the law because I'm over 18?""

I may be pissed off (or may not) but that is different to thinking you can call the police because it is illegal. Taking a picture of someone in a public space is not illegal no matter how the subject being photgraphed feels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not in a public place it isn’t. It only becomes illegal if those photos are then distributed. It’s only illegal to take photos if the subject has a reasonable expectation of privacy. Laying naked on a public beach doesn’t give you that expectation. Also, just being topless isn’t indecent either, only male and female genitalia are covered under the sexual offences act with regards to having them on display in public.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even showing your bits in public isn't illegal unless you are engaged in a sexual act.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even showing your bits in public isn't illegal unless you are engaged in a sexual act. "

Not true I’m afraid. It’s exposure, exposing ones genitals intending that another person will see them. There doesn’t have to be any sexual act.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even showing your bits in public isn't illegal unless you are engaged in a sexual act.

Not true I’m afraid. It’s exposure, exposing ones genitals intending that another person will see them. There doesn’t have to be any sexual act.

So why didn't all the naked cyclists get arrested in London?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Under the Sexual Offences Act 2003 it is not an offence to be naked in public in England and Wales. It becomes an offence if it can be proved the person stripped off with the intention to cause distress, alarm or outrage

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Public photography is only illegal if you are taking indecent photos.

You cannot be termed as taking an indecent photo of a naked body that's on public land unless the naked person is doing something indecent in the first place.

If you are lying naked on a public beach then you obviously want people to look at you. If not then you would lay naked in a private place.

That's the Laws unfortunately.

I do not lie on a beach for people to look at me!

I am a naturist.

Definition of naturism: the belief that nakedness is beneficial to health and emotional wellbeing

Would wearing a swimsuit or bikini alter that belief?

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By *lyreelMan
over a year ago

King's lynn

There are more weirdos in this thread than the guy who took pictures of the OP!

If you lie nude in public, in this day and age with mobile phones you can expect to be pictured. It’s not especially right, morally below the belt, not illegal so it will happen.

I am not condoning it, but it wouldn’t happen if the situation wasn’t there.

Cover up, find a secluded spot or take responsibility for your own actions and the consequences which involve others.

Let’s move on from the easily offended era we are in.

If you stand on a train track don’t blame the train driver that doesn’t stop, get off the track or if you need to do it stand on a disused line!

Take responsibility for our own actions, be nice to one another, cherish your health and your loved ones, because that is only the 2 things that have any real meaning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Even showing your bits in public isn't illegal unless you are engaged in a sexual act.

Not true I’m afraid. It’s exposure, exposing ones genitals intending that another person will see them. There doesn’t have to be any sexual act.

So why didn't all the naked cyclists get arrested in London? "

Google the offence of exposure. There’s no mention of any sexual act. It says exposing ones genitals with the intention that they will be seen by another person and that person would be caused harassment, alarm or distress. No sexual act is required.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a catch 22. If you report him for taking indecent images in a public plays you are confessing to indecent exposure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are more weirdos in this thread than the guy who took pictures of the OP!

If you lie nude in public, in this day and age with mobile phones you can expect to be pictured. It’s not especially right, morally below the belt, not illegal so it will happen.

I am not condoning it, but it wouldn’t happen if the situation wasn’t there.

Cover up, find a secluded spot or take responsibility for your own actions and the consequences which involve others.

Let’s move on from the easily offended era we are in.

If you stand on a train track don’t blame the train driver that doesn’t stop, get off the track or if you need to do it stand on a disused line!

Take responsibility for our own actions, be nice to one another, cherish your health and your loved ones, because that is only the 2 things that have any real meaning.

Yes i agree with this

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By *hongman1Man
over a year ago

Mansfield

"It's a catch 22. If you report him for taking indecent images in a public plays you are confessing to indecent exposure "

Sunbathing naked is absolutely NOT indecent exposure

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's a catch 22. If you report him for taking indecent images in a public plays you are confessing to indecent exposure "

In the eyes of the law, in this situation, neither party have committed any offence.

The OP, if I understand it right, is naked on a nudist beach, therefore she can reasonably expect that any other person who is exposed to her genitals would not be caused harassment, alarm or distress as they are on a nudist beach and it would be expected.

The guy taking pictures has not committed an offence as it is a public place and the subject, the OP, does not have a reasonable expectation of privacy.

The sad reality is, if you don’t want to risk being photographed naked then don’t lay naked in public. Morally the guy taking pics is in the wrong but in the eyes of the law he’s done nothing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yesterday I enjoyed my first trip to the beach of the year it was lovely sea was cold but I love the feeling of the sun on my naked body,a few guy's around leering but it's to be expected.

It really spoilt a nice day in a couple of ways.

1: can't a woman just go and sunbathe without being pestered by letching weirdos.

2: why the heck didn't anyone tell me or confront him?

It's 2019 and porn is readily available at the touch of a button it's not like the naked female figure isn't out there to look at.

I know there is nothing I can do , public domain and all that but I do wonder where those pictures will end up ?"
I'm sorry some of these weirdos and they are just don't have a sense of right and wrong, I had my tent on nudist beach and went for a coffee when I came back I had a woman on one side having sex with all comers, she seemed very friendly but although probably 30 ish had no age limit and no condoms on the other side I had to couples each playing with the others partner but enjoying being watched, I don't have a problem with either scenario but I was in middle of the perv fest so I'm lying sunbathing and guys were walking over my head not once or twice 20 times the last guy apologised I replied don't worry about it you're only the 20 th person to do it, he was immediately in my face saying did I want to make anything of it lol

the guys March up and down like zombies staring at you or your partner most of the time no conversation, just perving lol taking pics really is not on

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"There are more weirdos in this thread than the guy who took pictures of the OP!

If you lie nude in public, in this day and age with mobile phones you can expect to be pictured. It’s not especially right, morally below the belt, not illegal so it will happen.

I am not condoning it, but it wouldn’t happen if the situation wasn’t there.

Cover up, find a secluded spot or take responsibility for your own actions and the consequences which involve others.

Let’s move on from the easily offended era we are in.

If you stand on a train track don’t blame the train driver that doesn’t stop, get off the track or if you need to do it stand on a disused line!

Take responsibility for our own actions, be nice to one another, cherish your health and your loved ones, because that is only the 2 things that have any real meaning.

I think being nice to one another covers not taking nude photos of people unless they've agreed.

We are as discreet as possible on naturist beaches, some people at one of the ones we go to surround themselves entirely with wind breaks, that might be the answer here.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yesterday I enjoyed my first trip to the beach of the year it was lovely sea was cold but I love the feeling of the sun on my naked body,a few guy's around leering but it's to be expected.

It really spoilt a nice day in a couple of ways.

1: can't a woman just go and sunbathe without being pestered by letching weirdos.

2: why the heck didn't anyone tell me or confront him?

It's 2019 and porn is readily available at the touch of a button it's not like the naked female figure isn't out there to look at.

I know there is nothing I can do , public domain and all that but I do wonder where those pictures will end up ?I'm sorry some of these weirdos and they are just don't have a sense of right and wrong, I had my tent on nudist beach and went for a coffee when I came back I had a woman on one side having sex with all comers, she seemed very friendly but although probably 30 ish had no age limit and no condoms on the other side I had to couples each playing with the others partner but enjoying being watched, I don't have a problem with either scenario but I was in middle of the perv fest so I'm lying sunbathing and guys were walking over my head not once or twice 20 times the last guy apologised I replied don't worry about it you're only the 20 th person to do it, he was immediately in my face saying did I want to make anything of it lol

the guys March up and down like zombies staring at you or your partner most of the time no conversation, just perving lol taking pics really is not on

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two couples

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By *un Bi couple yorkshireCouple
over a year ago

Doncaster

We had this recently in Ibiza on Es cavallett beach , a guy quite erratic walking between couples with a bag over his shoulder and his arm appeared to be directing it towards people , suspecting he was secretly filming , I got up to confront him and he was off .

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By *ampshirehotwife OP Woman
over a year ago

Hampshire

Thank you all for your input.

It certainly has given me food for thought.

It's certainly been very helpful to hear all sides.

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

So is it a public beach?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So is it a public beach?

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yes it is, why do you ask?

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

"So is it a public beach?

yes it is, why do you ask? "

On a public beach you can have some people that will not be happy seeing a naked person, and whilst I’m not if that mindset I understand those that do

Better to go to a nudist beach

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By *ampshirehotwife OP Woman
over a year ago

Hampshire

I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So is it a public beach?

yes it is, why do you ask?

On a public beach you can have some people that will not be happy seeing a naked person, and whilst I’m not if that mindset I understand those that do

Better to go to a nudist beach "
It's a public nudist beach

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

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It's wrong don't struggle just go up to person who took it grab device and throw it in sea

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By *ampshirehotwife OP Woman
over a year ago

Hampshire

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

It's wrong don't struggle just go up to person who took it grab device and throw it in sea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

It's wrong don't struggle just go up to person who took it grab device and throw it in sea

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lol did you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately there is a big difference between what is legally acceptable and what is morally acceptable.

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

No one should but they do, it’s so easy to take a picture now even far away some cameras get very close, I think as long as you are fully aware that this could happen it’s up to the person to take that risk, some naturist communities members have secluded gardens that they offer to friends on sunny days,

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too "

But for what purpose are you advocating calling the police? If it is for taking a picture of you on a public beach they will tell you to stop wasting their time.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan

It’s possible that the guy wasn’t taking pictures of the OP in particular, maybe this was just assumed or ended up sounding like a good story. Not seeing the images captured would mean no one has a clue what the guy, creep, weirdo, now in a and e because some of the white knights decided to avenge the wrongdoing..... OP I would suggest, until harm is caused in some way, that no harms been done. The behaviour of your friends, if the guy was being as obvious as suggested, is questionable .... maybe it wasn’t so obvious but as the story gathered momentum....

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too

But for what purpose are you advocating calling the police? If it is for taking a picture of you on a public beach they will tell you to stop wasting their time."

Because the pervert is taking photos without consent and I’m fairly sure it could even come under sex offences acts, it’s not wasted police time it’s an abuse of privacy for sexual gratification

It’s not harmless, it was a nudist beach so a safe area to disrobe and no women deserves to be treated that way

On a public beach if I’d seen people taking pictures of me or my kids I’d do the same, with clothes on !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too

But for what purpose are you advocating calling the police? If it is for taking a picture of you on a public beach they will tell you to stop wasting their time.

It’s not harmless, it was a nudist beach so a safe area to disrobe and no women deserves to be treated that way

On a public beach if I’d seen people taking pictures of me or my kids I’d do the same, with clothes on !

You can’t just make random offences up to suit yourself love. The point is, you can’t have an expectation of privacy on a public beach. Whilst it’s morally wrong it isn’t legally wrong so calling the police will get you nowhere.

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

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"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too

But for what purpose are you advocating calling the police? If it is for taking a picture of you on a public beach they will tell you to stop wasting their time.

It’s not harmless, it was a nudist beach so a safe area to disrobe and no women deserves to be treated that way

On a public beach if I’d seen people taking pictures of me or my kids I’d do the same, with clothes on !

I’m not making it up, there are a ton of sex offences one I’d say this would be is under the voyerisum act it’s true a public place everyone can see anything but if people that take photos and use them for sexual gratification or passed them on to others or download they are committing a crime

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By *esires of HertsCouple
over a year ago

Herts and London Borders

least you never got a sandy crack

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over a year ago

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too

But for what purpose are you advocating calling the police? If it is for taking a picture of you on a public beach they will tell you to stop wasting their time.

It’s not harmless, it was a nudist beach so a safe area to disrobe and no women deserves to be treated that way

On a public beach if I’d seen people taking pictures of me or my kids I’d do the same, with clothes on !

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If the lady concerned was lying openly on a public nudist beach it seems it's not illegal even if having sex but if you were having sex behind a bush eg making an attempt to be private then taking that pic is illegal, pic taking in a public place even a nudist beach isn't against the law in the UK in some cases they can even use the pics for business purposes

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over a year ago

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too

But for what purpose are you advocating calling the police? If it is for taking a picture of you on a public beach they will tell you to stop wasting their time.

It’s not harmless, it was a nudist beach so a safe area to disrobe and no women deserves to be treated that way

On a public beach if I’d seen people taking pictures of me or my kids I’d do the same, with clothes on !

Now you’re going off on a tangent, there’s no suggestion the OP’s pics were distributed for others to see or download. And to be a victim of voyeurism the victim has to be unaware that they are being observed and have a reasonable expectation of privacy. Neither are true if you are laying naked in public.

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

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"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too

But for what purpose are you advocating calling the police? If it is for taking a picture of you on a public beach they will tell you to stop wasting their time.

It’s not harmless, it was a nudist beach so a safe area to disrobe and no women deserves to be treated that way

On a public beach if I’d seen people taking pictures of me or my kids I’d do the same, with clothes on !

If the lady concerned was lying openly on a public nudist beach it seems it's not illegal even if having sex but if you were having sex behind a bush eg making an attempt to be private then taking that pic is illegal, pic taking in a public place even a nudist beach isn't against the law in the UK in some cases they can even use the pics for business purposes

Oh dear

The picture is not taken legally if the woman is naked it’s classed as an indecent photo

And having sex even on a nudist beach is against the law too

If she had her bikini on it is legal

And sex outdoors can only happen legally in private grounds with no one able to witness

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over a year ago

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too

But for what purpose are you advocating calling the police? If it is for taking a picture of you on a public beach they will tell you to stop wasting their time.

It’s not harmless, it was a nudist beach so a safe area to disrobe and no women deserves to be treated that way

On a public beach if I’d seen people taking pictures of me or my kids I’d do the same, with clothes on !

Oh dear

The picture is not taken legally if the woman is naked it’s classed as an indecent photo

And having sex even on a nudist beach is against the law too

If she had her bikini on it is legal

And sex outdoors can only happen legally in private grounds with no one able to witness

I don’t know what planet you live on flower but wherever it is it obviously has different laws to ours. I’ll leave you to it.

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By *ommyxyzMan
over a year ago

Crawley

My friend and I enjoyed a lovely day naked on the beach, obviously guys walking backwards and forwards but pictures and in our case openly masturbating, no it isn’t ok. There should be a clear distinction between being naked and sex, dogging, whatever.

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over a year ago

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too

But for what purpose are you advocating calling the police? If it is for taking a picture of you on a public beach they will tell you to stop wasting their time.

It’s not harmless, it was a nudist beach so a safe area to disrobe and no women deserves to be treated that way

On a public beach if I’d seen people taking pictures of me or my kids I’d do the same, with clothes on !

No matter how you may not like it the police uphold the law not moral indignation. As long as the photos are not shared no laws have been broken. For the photos to be considered indecent the person having the photo taken would have to be in an indecent pose or act (and therefore they would be the one being arrested). There is no consent required to take the photo as it is a public space and you have no right to privacy. If you want privacy do it on private land.

The only example you quote where they would take note (and which did not apply to the OP so we haven't bothered discussing it) was taking photos of your kids which would be of interest to the police because they are under 18.

Whether or not the person thinks it is harmless or not or whether it should be safe to disrobe in public without being photographed or whether a woman (or indeed man) deserves to be treated that was is not a matter of law and therefore the police will rightly not be interested.

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over a year ago

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too

But for what purpose are you advocating calling the police? If it is for taking a picture of you on a public beach they will tell you to stop wasting their time.

It’s not harmless, it was a nudist beach so a safe area to disrobe and no women deserves to be treated that way

On a public beach if I’d seen people taking pictures of me or my kids I’d do the same, with clothes on !

Oh dear

The picture is not taken legally if the woman is naked it’s classed as an indecent photo

And having sex even on a nudist beach is against the law too

If she had her bikini on it is legal

And sex outdoors can only happen legally in private grounds with no one able to witness

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nope I know it would make sense that it was but it's not eg the press for example with their massive great zoom lenses can take pics from miles away and post them in the newspaper it's not illegal Google it for yourself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't this something that the revenge porn law is supposed to protect against?

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over a year ago

"Isn't this something that the revenge porn law is supposed to protect against?"
is it revenge?

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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago

portsmouth

We are surprised what the legal position is regarding this matter is still being debated?This helpful link was posted earlier by another poster and it clearly sets out the polices view on it all.

https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/advice/neighbourhood-and-community/taking-photographs-in-a-public-place/

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over a year ago

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

But if it happens again call the police and get a good description of the chap and car ref too

But for what purpose are you advocating calling the police? If it is for taking a picture of you on a public beach they will tell you to stop wasting their time.

It’s not harmless, it was a nudist beach so a safe area to disrobe and no women deserves to be treated that way

On a public beach if I’d seen people taking pictures of me or my kids I’d do the same, with clothes on !

Oh dear

The picture is not taken legally if the woman is naked it’s classed as an indecent photo

And having sex even on a nudist beach is against the law too

If she had her bikini on it is legal

And sex outdoors can only happen legally in private grounds with no one able to witness

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so youre saying the woman is indecent because she's sunbathing on a public nudist beach naked, she's a lovely woman the Op hardly indecent and it's not illegal end of lol, it's not good manners, it's not the etiquette and as I said earlier if it was me I would have grabbed the device and thrown it in the sea and said Ooooops but in doing so he the indecent person who took the pic could take legal action against me lol

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By *hloe12Woman
over a year ago

york

Ive had the same thing happen to me and my 2 daughters some perv with a camera photographing use. As look would have it a guy alking his dog spotted him and told my guy so my guy and another fella confronted the perve removed the sd card and gave him a slap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are surprised what the legal position is regarding this matter is still being debated?This helpful link was posted earlier by another poster and it clearly sets out the polices view on it all.

https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/advice/neighbourhood-and-community/taking-photographs-in-a-public-place/ "

Because some people will not admit to being wrong regardless of the evidence provided.

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By *atelot24Man
over a year ago

weoley castle/plympton

Even showing your bits in public isn't illegal unless you are engaged in a sexual act. "

Wrong, it is illegal to show your bits in public if you are causing offence to someone. Hence people can be arrested for peeing in public. Classed as indecent exposure

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over a year ago

Even showing your bits in public isn't illegal unless you are engaged in a sexual act.

Wrong, it is illegal to show your bits in public if you are causing offence to someone. Hence people can be arrested for peeing in public. Classed as indecent exposure"
but in the Ops case it's not illegal to sunbathe naked on a public nudist beach

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over a year ago

Even showing your bits in public isn't illegal unless you are engaged in a sexual act.

Wrong, it is illegal to show your bits in public if you are causing offence to someone. Hence people can be arrested for peeing in public. Classed as indecent exposure"

Do some research before you spout rubbish!

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By *ibblingnewtWoman
over a year ago

by the sea

"We are surprised what the legal position is regarding this matter is still being debated?This helpful link was posted earlier by another poster and it clearly sets out the polices view on it all.

https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/advice/neighbourhood-and-community/taking-photographs-in-a-public-place/ "

I hope that the ones thinking this is either acceptable or legal actually read this

It is a crime !

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over a year ago

Even showing your bits in public isn't illegal unless you are engaged in a sexual act.

Wrong, it is illegal to show your bits in public if you are causing offence to someone. Hence people can be arrested for peeing in public. Classed as indecent exposure"

I love the armchair lawyers in this place. If in doubt just make it up. Having a wee in public does not fall under the offence of exposure (the word indecent was dropped years ago). It would fall under section 5 of the public order act at best.

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over a year ago

"We are surprised what the legal position is regarding this matter is still being debated?This helpful link was posted earlier by another poster and it clearly sets out the polices view on it all.

https://www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/advice/neighbourhood-and-community/taking-photographs-in-a-public-place/

I hope that the ones thinking this is either acceptable or legal actually read this

It is a crime !

No it isn’t. Being naked on a nudist beach is expected, not indecent.

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over a year ago

"I am just struggling with the mentality that because I'm naked on a naturist beach that I should expect people to take pictures?

Isn't that the same mentality that girls who go out in short skirts and low cut tops should expect to be attacked

I have been in the pub trade for more years than i care to remember, and occasiinally i have to deal with this one.

The law is that you have no expectation of privacy in a public place. That is the legal status, and its the same one that allows us to film police in the line of duty.

Anyone can take a photo and it is legal. You can ask them to stop, and they have to stop, but the photo that has been taken is fair game because he had implied consent because you are in a public place. You cannot force him to delete it.

Short skirts and low cut tops are exactly the same. Anyone can take a photo, or just ogle a bit because they have implied consent. If you dont want people to look at your tits, wear a sweater.

Anyone who tried to take his phone would likely be threatened with assault, theft and criminal damage. He did nothing wrong, and being a despicable twat isnt illegal.

Being attacked is a whole nother kettle of fish. The skirt may or may not imply that she is looking to get laid, but it does not imply that she is looking to get laid by you, or anyone else in specific.

The word attack would suggest that the woman in question at some point said or otherwise indicated no, and legally all implied consent is removed. Any further attention is now considered as harrassment at least, and possibly assault in itself.

Not sure how the law stands on uploading those pictures, but think it counts as assault the same as revenge porn.

Anyone who has been attacked will tell you that the two things just dont even compare. Its like comparing apples and r*pe.

Not saying for a split second that it is right, but yes if you are nekkid in full view on the beach then you should be expecting some perv with a telephoto lens taking pictures.

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over a year ago

Addendum:

The link to the police website is a little oversimplified.

It also matters if you are personally identifiable in the photo. Anyone can take a photo of the high street with 100s of people in it, and doesnt need permission because it is legally implied. If you can be obviously identified from the photo, it cannot be used for commercial purposes, or shared.

If you are the subject of the picture, and you ask him to stop, then he has to do so. He can however take background shots that you happen to be in, as long as you arent identifiable.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

As the husband of the op

I can say that the legal rights or wrongs aren't really the issue.

It's more about what's actually not a decent thing to do , legality aside it was just a creepy and rude thing to do.

I have never had a problem with her going to the beach on her own previously as it's a friendly community and people generally look out for each other, unfortunately this gets spoilt by the minority the ( meerkat) brigade.

I personally don't like the sun or sunbathing but I will go with her in future and do what I usually do when we go together hide under a parasol covered in factor 50.

Keeping my eyes covertly peeled and will ensure that my big hairy arse gets in the way of any future wannabe picture collector's.

Oh well we live and learn I guess.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Trouble is, OPs partner, is that you’ll then attract the hairy arse photo brigade

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"Trouble is, OPs partner, is that you’ll then attract the hairy arse photo brigade

If they wanna get off looking at pictures of my big hairy butt, well crack on ( pub intended) trust me my arse is so white it will overexpose the pic anyway like a bald white sasquatch.

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Pun

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By *rotica xCouple
over a year ago

Chepstow/Portugal