FabSwingers.com forum: Who likes sex in the woods

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I went to my local woods last Friday. Had 4 different cocks in my hands, two of them in my mouth and was fucked by one of them. Was my lucky day because normally I dont get any.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d love to take the elude in to the woods and gave someone fun.

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By *astyEricMan
over a year ago

Hull

As soon as there is no wolfs about

LMAO

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love fun in the woods although normally its just kne on one....but maybe one day i will be lucky

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love the woods, though usually alone hahah!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I lived closer to you I’d love to take into the woods. X

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By *illie99TV/TS
over a year ago

Central Scotland

"As soon as there is no wolfs about

LMAO"

It's more the bears you have got to watch out for!

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By *hoot45Man
over a year ago

Ramsgate

"As soon as there is no wolfs about

LMAO

It's more the bears you have got to watch out for! "

A big surprise?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hell yeah

I've Cannock woods right by, but I've not ventured in there yet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d always be worried the wrong person would see me

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By *layfullsamMan
over a year ago

Solihull

Watch out for the teddy bears having a picnic

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

Yep, as my pictures are testament.

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By *tella HeelsTV/TS
over a year ago

west here ford shire

Lots of woodland by me if any ladies interested

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By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district

There's something primitive and very sensual about sex in a wood. One of our very first fucks was in a wood, and we could hear people talking as they walked on a nearby path - very exciting!

A couple of years later we found a sunny glade in Rothiemurchus forest, Scotland, stripped off and got down to it. Within a few minutes we were both being eaten alive by mossies, midges and other beasties but we kept going until he'd cum. We still laugh about the memory.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as there is a blanket on the floor or not raining then sex in the woods is fantastic but haven't done it for many years

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By *ranimallxl5Man
over a year ago

Winchester

Teddy bears?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have misbehaved in the woods and earnt a verification for my services!!

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

I’m dating two women at the moment both are excited at the thought of fucking in the woods. One is a very prim & proper deputy headmistress but is incredibly turned on at the thought of being fucked from behind while pushed against a tree.

Just need some warm dry weather.

It was really interesting breaching the subject as still quite new relationships “when were you last banged from behind against a tree “? was my subtle question- the response was amazing.

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By *issyfaggotfayeTV/TS
over a year ago

Bolton

I love it. Need a dom guy and/or tgirl for Monday 10th for a dogging meet with a kinky twist. I need to be spanked, fucked and filmed for proof that i met my task set by my mistress x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We like sex in the woods however not done it for a while xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes we like to play in the woods occasionally. Usually just the two of us though. Although we have been stumbled upon once by a guy who was rather happy to see us lol

Scarlett tied to a tree or chained prostrate on a fallen trunk is always great fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We like sex in the woods however not done it for a while xx"

So much fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We like sex in the woods however not done it for a while xx

So much fun

It is indeed x

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By *ikilovesCCouple
over a year ago

village life, closest main town inverness

It's been known to happen lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would like to try it

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

I’ve never had sex in the woods. If anyone would like to initiate me, then I can let you know if I like it afterwards.

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By *actilemale4uMan
over a year ago

London

Great fun with the right lady

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By *xotic indianCouple
over a year ago

leicester

Every time we go to Eureka we enjoy having sex in the wood.

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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton

To the woods to the woods , been there done that a few times ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love playing in a nice bush

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By *ardiffCoupleNJCouple
over a year ago

Pontypridd/Rhyfelin

"I’d always be worried the wrong person would see me "

This is what puts us off despite loving the idea!

Anyone local want to show us the local beauty spots?

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By *aked_magicMan
over a year ago

the gutter looking at the stars (UAE)

Cant beat a walk through the woods

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By *aimeSmithTV/TS
over a year ago

Cliss

High heels on soft ground isn't easy!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We love outdoor fun in the woods

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’d always be worried the wrong person would see me "
even better lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just call me Little red riding hood

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By *plbnorfolkCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Bears love sex in the woods

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By *ommyxyzMan
over a year ago

Crawley

Woods definitely, side of a river or on a beach, middle of a cricket pitch once. Outdoors sex us brilliant.

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By *asualsexMan
over a year ago

#Gatwick#

I haven’t been lucky enough to find anyone in the woods are there any dogging wood near Crawley?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have a wooded location near Brighton that we use when weather is good

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By *j48Man
over a year ago

Wigan

It'd be great if it'd ever stop pissing down with rain

lots of woods near me going to waste

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Love to have fun in the woods but weather is against it right now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love it.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

Woods near us there is a very gorgeous almost St Andrews cross.

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By *xcited99Couple
over a year ago

omagh

Love it. Pic of me in woods on profile pics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't beat a bit of fresh air on your bits

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only done it once and Loved it and the thought of getting caught really turns me on. Who wants to make it my second???

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By *xtrafun4youMan
over a year ago

Dunstable

Fantastic feeling, don’t get to do it much. Any volunteers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would love to take the wife into and get her naked and play.

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By *utterfingersMan
over a year ago

Lancaster

I love it, can't beat being naked outdoors

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can't beat a bit of fresh air on your bits

True, it feels pretty damn sexy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Love the woods, though usually alone hahah! "

Lots of good woodland round here but yet to have fun there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not had outdoor play for a while, I find it very exhilarating

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By *andy_tomMan
over a year ago

wolverhampton

"It'd be great if it'd ever stop pissing down with rain

lots of woods near me going to waste "

when its raining its the back of the van fun ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never try it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love going down to the woods sure of a big surprise

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as there is no chance of being disturbed, it's great..

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By *oolstewieMan
over a year ago

Southampton

I am surrounded by woods in easy walking distance

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I would like to try.

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By *otts PervsCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

Fun in the Woods is incredibly fun

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By *i explorer and steveMan
over a year ago

Boston and Higham Ferrers

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By *i explorer and steveMan
over a year ago

Boston and Higham Ferrers

Sex in the woods and both naked. Then hide your clothes and walk through the woods. If you see someone turn round or perform for them. Also horny skinny dipping along a footpath not knowing if someone's round the corner and fucking over a rock or bank

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd just be happy to have sex! Doesn't have to be the woods. It's dryer than the Sahara here!

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By *riage12Man
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Sex in the woods and both naked. Then hide your clothes and walk through the woods. If you see someone turn round or perform for them. Also horny skinny dipping along a footpath not knowing if someone's round the corner and fucking over a rock or bank

I’ve been skinny dipping with some friends in Snowdonia before. That was fun, water was freezing though I basically turned into a girl.

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By *i explorer and steveMan
over a year ago

Boston and Higham Ferrers

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By *i explorer and steveMan
over a year ago

Boston and Higham Ferrers

I’ve been skinny dipping with some friends in Snowdonia before. That was fun, water was freezing though I basically turned into a girl.

Been there lol but good in the summer when it's busy in the Brecon Beacons

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By *eicloafersCouple
over a year ago

Leicester

Only if we can be seen.

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By *aughtySilverFoxyMan
over a year ago

Reading

It would be fun!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh yes yes yes yes yes. One of our favourite places and we have so many to shoose from around here. We would love to play with more Fabbers but not everyone is as daring.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bears!! Bears like sex in the woods

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A few of ours are in a good wooded location

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

I always fancied my wife dragging me into the bushes and quickly power wanking me off while we were out jogging!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP, woods are great fun indeed. So much can be done in them. Have been known to use the ropes, one of the best places IMO.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've had some very sexy encounters in the woods (with a partner, not a stranger). The risk of being caught adds an extra frisson

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We absolutely love it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m dating two women at the moment both are excited at the thought of fucking in the woods. One is a very prim & proper deputy headmistress but is incredibly turned on at the thought of being fucked from behind while pushed against a tree.

Just need some warm dry weather.

It was really interesting breaching the subject as still quite new relationships “when were you last banged from behind against a tree “? was my subtle question- the response was amazing. "

That last question would make me instantly aroused and wet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who doesn’t like sex in the woods... that would be a much shorter forum thread haha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Who doesn’t like sex in the woods... that would be a much shorter forum thread haha"

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Beware biting insects!

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

Just need some warm dry weather.

It was really interesting breaching the subject as still quite new relationships “when were you last banged from behind against a tree “? was my subtle question- the response was amazing.

That last question would make me instantly aroused and wet

How about that? Women are fascinating!

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By *ikilovesCCouple
over a year ago

village life, closest main town inverness

"Beware biting insects!

Especially when in the Highlands

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m on a promise for sex up the Chevin. This is not a euphemism.

Just need availability and warm weather to coincide so that we can utilise a large comfortable bench up there.

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By *heif6999Man
over a year ago

malton

Yes! Broad daylight and dark

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By *oodguyeddieMan
over a year ago

l36

Absolutely love it

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By *rthangMan
over a year ago

calderdale

I do. Looking for woodland near leeds or Bradford

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By *ioletVixenMrBlueBiCouple
over a year ago

northwich

Mr loves the idea of playing with other people out in the woods but Mrs isn’t overly keen on the risk of being caught

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By *iveshowcouple2Couple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Mr loves the idea of playing with other people out in the woods but Mrs isn’t overly keen on the risk of being caught"

Love the idea of being caught.

Not so keen on either frost or insect bites.

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By *ioletVixenMrBlueBiCouple
over a year ago

northwich

"Mr loves the idea of playing with other people out in the woods but Mrs isn’t overly keen on the risk of being caught

Love the idea of being caught.

Not so keen on either frost or insect bites."

The risk is a turn on, just not one Mrs is willing to take. Love the idea of wandering through the woods and finding/watching a couple though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Mr loves the idea of playing with other people out in the woods but Mrs isn’t overly keen on the risk of being caught

Love the idea of being caught.

Not so keen on either frost or insect bites.

The risk is a turn on, just not one Mrs is willing to take. Love the idea of wandering through the woods and finding/watching a couple though

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same for me I’d love to take the mrs for a walk in the woods and have same fun.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This one is on our bucket list. The idea is so sexy

Holly

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By *odramafunCouple
over a year ago

Derbyshire/staffordshire

We do

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By *hickennchipsWoman
over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

Bears do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I LOVE sex in the woods! Find it so stimulating.....

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By *oeofsussexMan
over a year ago

Eastbourne

Fantastic - been too long since last time! Nearly caught by two sexy female horseriders once while screwing my wife from behind against a tree close to a road! Very exciting and primeval!

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By *pen 2 offersMan
over a year ago

Irchester

Salcey Forest is great for it in my area!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fucking in a forest is where it's at

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By *uracell-DannyMan
over a year ago

Leicester

Love the great outdoors...weather permitting lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I met a woman from here a couple of weeks ago and a walk through a forest path soon led to her wrapping her hand round my cock behind the trees while i played with her clit... shame it didnt go any further this time!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This one is on our bucket list. The idea is so sexy

Holly"

I will get my bushcraft gear together and let’s head to the woods for some fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love the woods

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By *uHorny1Man
over a year ago

Cannock

Live near to Cannock Chase and enjoyed this with a lady friend recently. Daytime fun and not dogging. We are both looking forward to.the summer finally getting going...

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

Love it!

So many possibilities...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes please - push me up against a tree and fuck me

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By *DreamOfGenieWoman
over a year ago

London

Oh hell yes...I'm a country girl at heart, so the idea of getting jiggy outdoors is always appealing!

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By *p478Man
over a year ago

norfolk

I love fun in woods. Used to meet an ex there where she would put on a show for me before I had my way with her. Something really horny about cumming inside her out there.

Prior to her, had an amazing mmmmf - that was pretty awesome.

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By *uke olovingmanMan
over a year ago

Gravesend

Just watch out for prickles and ants

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By *hoot45Man
over a year ago

Ramsgate

"Just watch out for prickles and ants"

Ticks are worse - u wouldn’t want one of those in your cock

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By *JD07Man
over a year ago

caerphilly

Never done it in the woods, anybody willing to change that lol

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By *rthangMan
over a year ago

calderdale

I might have to go to the woods today

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By *jleedsCouple
over a year ago

leeds

We managed to go for a walk last week in the woods nd well we both had lors of fun

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *ap AdgeMan
over a year ago

Wirral

Lovely it's magical

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh yea sex outside is horny. Actually had some fun with gf yesterday while out for a walk. It also started raining so her leggings got soaked and seethru and clingy and so did her top. Was real horny

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By *issyfaggotfayeTV/TS
over a year ago

Bolton

Hoping to have outdoors fun tomorrow

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would like to try it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm going past a lot of woods on the train- I would love to be leaning against a tree while a group of men fuck me - Little glimpses for the train passengers

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By *rygveMan
over a year ago

The Shires

"I'm going past a lot of woods on the train- I would love to be leaning against a tree while a group of men fuck me - Little glimpses for the train passengers

Sexy image. Love outdoor play

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm going past a lot of woods on the train- I would love to be leaning against a tree while a group of men fuck me - Little glimpses for the train passengers

There's a short video like this of a young couple having sex in a field right by the c2c line heading in and out of Southend. Think it was shot at Hadleigh near the castle

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By *BWLOVER87Man
over a year ago

luton

Have done it afew time. Fine it the best sex ive had of each occasion

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By *att71Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Its great in woods especially when its raining

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By *herrySnickersWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere

Well here in Oz - it’s the bush and you need to be on the lookout for snakes, spiders and ants... but it’s lots of fun...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well here in Oz - it’s the bush and you need to be on the lookout for snakes, spiders and ants... but it’s lots of fun...

A root in the bush, with wildlife as an added danger element, I can see that being very sexy

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By *herrySnickersWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere

"Well here in Oz - it’s the bush and you need to be on the lookout for snakes, spiders and ants... but it’s lots of fun...

A root in the bush, with wildlife as an added danger element, I can see that being very sexy"

Lol - a good root in the bush - lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well here in Oz - it’s the bush and you need to be on the lookout for snakes, spiders and ants... but it’s lots of fun...

A root in the bush, with wildlife as an added danger element, I can see that being very sexy

Lol - a good root in the bush - lol

I got the terminology right then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh yes.

Weather is improving and extra large picnic blanket is on order

S&S

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By *ikilovesCCouple
over a year ago

village life, closest main town inverness

"Would like to try it

Go for it lol

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By *dtanyaTV/TS
over a year ago

gallowayshire

Fuckin luv it

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By *olden_Road_to_SamarkandMan
over a year ago

London & North Wessex Downs

All you outdoor types seem to be in the North of the UK - clearly balls (and boobs) of steel. Oddly enough down in the warm South it doesn't seem half as popular (sadly LOL)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Beautiful woods 5 min walk from mine in lincs, so secluded and empty... Join me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"All you outdoor types seem to be in the North of the UK - clearly balls (and boobs) of steel. Oddly enough down in the warm South it doesn't seem half as popular (sadly LOL)"

I would say too many people but some areas of Kent and Surrey can be quite deserted during the week.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

Picnic blanket comes in handy

. Last time we were close to the woods, after midnight and having a great time. Managed to finish before the rain came.

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By *iamond coupleCouple
over a year ago

leeds

We have our own little spot we love to visit during the summer nights. On the edge of a wood, overlooking a valley. Beautiful and only a 5 minute walk from the road near kippax. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We have a couple of spots. Not quite as scenic but tucked away from passing walkers !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We’re off to a wedding this Saturday and hoping there’s a nice woodland area for to sneak off to.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love sex in the woods, have been known to take Naughty Nymphomaniac out for some woodland fun, think a couple of pics might still be on her profile.

If any lovely ladies would like to be taken to my naughty nook, let me know lol

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By *ornyyorksMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Love it in the woods, if anyone wants to join me they are more tgan welcome.........not today though its bloody freezing cold and wet ??

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By *rincess and her FrogCouple
over a year ago

congleton

We often play out in the woods

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By *usie4uTV/TS
over a year ago

Havant

"If I lived closer to you I’d love to take into the woods. X"

There is lots of local fun in Waterlooville area

Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would love to do this!! Have to see if I can persuade mrs to do it sometime

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

So erotic, stripping off in the woods. There are some great spots here just on the edge of Saffron Walden. All we need is some warm dry weather.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So erotic, stripping off in the woods. There are some great spots here just on the edge of Saffron Walden. All we need is some warm dry weather. "
is that dogging sites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'm going past a lot of woods on the train- I would love to be leaning against a tree while a group of men fuck me - Little glimpses for the train passengers

Many years ago myself and a friend went for a walk down the river near guildford- we ended up in a bit more of an open area by a very quiet track and with noone around were at it up against a tree. I'm not sure how obvious it was to the passengers on the train that went past, but there were then some firemen over the field who seemed to have figured out what was going on, was definitely too far for them to see too much. But the couple driving down the track clearly saw and didn't approve of us using their drive for our fun!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Squirrels I think

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By *ebjonnsonMan
over a year ago

Maldon

"So erotic, stripping off in the woods. There are some great spots here just on the edge of Saffron Walden. All we need is some warm dry weather. is that dogging sites "

No. Private I hope!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plenty of woods in and around medway, had plenty of steamy moments, just need someone ready and willing

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By *rthangMan
over a year ago

calderdale

Looking for active woods around leeds or Bradford

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By *heif6999Man
over a year ago

malton

Once shaved a woman’s hair in the woods while she was giving me a bj.... biggest turn on ever!

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By *appy_hedonistMan
over a year ago

Islington

I've got a small, secluded private woodland - and it's in the South East so relatively insect free! Should any couple fancy sex outdoors.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Love sex in the woods,even better if there is someone else there lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've got a small, secluded private woodland - and it's in the South East so relatively insect free! Should any couple fancy sex outdoors."

Gggrrr, so far away!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m interested in going into the woods, any takers ?

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By *appy_hedonistMan
over a year ago

Islington

Gggrrr, so far away!"

Just have to wait for HS2 - which is somewhat ironic given how many wood they'll cut down to build it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Once shaved a woman’s hair in the woods while she was giving me a bj.... biggest turn on ever!"

What?

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By *earded_buddhaMan
over a year ago

mansfield

Never tried sex in the woods, will need to add it to the list

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By *utsidenakedMan
over a year ago

Dorchester

Do it all the time

Spend sunny days naked with company but then I'm lucky enough to have my own woods so no disturbances

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Once shaved a woman’s hair in the woods while she was giving me a bj.... biggest turn on ever!

What?

I'm glad it wasnt just me that wasnt sure about that. All I could think was that it's an odd location for a hair salon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gggrrr, so far away!

Just have to wait for HS2 - which is somewhat ironic given how many wood they'll cut down to build it."

I don't know what this means.

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By *appy_hedonistMan
over a year ago

Islington

I don't know what this means. "
My fault - it was an obscure reference. HS2 is the high speed train line they're building to make it quick and easy to travel from north to south.

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By *ecretpantyTV/TS
over a year ago

lisburn

Been for many a meeting in the woods dressed in my panties and lingerie. I feel so naughty and excitEd at the same time.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

Years ago a wicked witch initiated me into her fuckery in my first wild wood encounter. Scince then I have a fascintion with having sex outdoors. Woods, fields, parks, gardens, beaches. She got me spellbound.

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By *heif6999Man
over a year ago

malton

"Once shaved a woman’s hair in the woods while she was giving me a bj.... biggest turn on ever!

What?

I'm glad it wasnt just me that wasnt sure about that. All I could think was that it's an odd location for a hair salon."

Her choice... who was I to turn it down ?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know what this means. My fault - it was an obscure reference. HS2 is the high speed train line they're building to make it quick and easy to travel from north to south."

You turned the conversation to trains?

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By *hewifeandiCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

"Love fun in the woods although normally its just kne on one....but maybe one day i will be lucky

We'd take ya

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By *appy_hedonistMan
over a year ago

Islington

You turned the conversation to trains?

"
Don't blame me, it was the lovely MaryFuckingPoppins who started it

" I would love to be leaning against a tree while a group of men fuck me - Little glimpses for the train passengers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lost my virginity in some woods

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I love going down to the woods sure of a big surprise

You will get a big surprise going bareback "

???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m in the woods today working in them no shagging going on lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anywhere will do me!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I love it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bears....

Oh no, that's something else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I prefer to do it in the forest

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By *attfsgMan
over a year ago

London

Would love to bump into a couple fucking in the woods on a hot day.

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By *owhard007Man
over a year ago

leeds

You can't beat a bit of fresh air around your balls whilst pleasuring a lady

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had a bit of fun in Llandegla forest when I’ve been out mountain biking. Could hear other people going past us a few feet away but they were going way too fast to even realise we were there.

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

Love a fuck in the woods

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think not viable option for me, if something else penetrates in wrong place

, because need in relax position standing ovation for leader or artist

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