FabSwingers.com forum: Work laptop

By *hemainintain OP Man
over a year ago

govan

How much can an employer see on a work laptop? I'd never log on here but my employer also owns the IT firm who supply the laptops.

How does it work? If I'm on the work WiFi on my phone can they see what sites I am on?

If on the work laptop at home would they see what sites the laptop visits??

Like I said nothing major to hide but I worry that firms install key logging software etc and just monitor everything.

Does that go on????

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

If they think it's been used inappropriately they can use various software.

Worth checking your employee manual for what it says about porn

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

My inclination is to not use work resources at all for adult material.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They know everything that happens on each machine.

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By *hemainintain OP Man
over a year ago

govan

"They know everything that happens on each machine. "

Oooooft. Orders new laptop! Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They can see anything you do in their network weather it be on your laptop or on your phone using their WiFi

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They can see anything you do in their network weather it be on your laptop or on your phone using their WiFi "

Yep, even at home on the work laptop as they only need to do a simple search history remotely and bang, you’re done!

We’ve sacked 3 people for it over the years. It’s a kinky place to work lol.

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By *hemainintain OP Man
over a year ago

govan

So let's say I have my Google account signed into laptop. Can they see the photos backed up to Google?

Let's say I go onto Facebook? They can't see conversation or posts can they?

Let's say I use an app on mobile phone on their WiFi. Surely they can't see what app I'm using?

I completely get the web history element as that's a URL from an ip address. It's the other stuff that freaks me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So let's say I have my Google account signed into laptop. Can they see the photos backed up to Google?

Let's say I go onto Facebook? They can't see conversation or posts can they?

Let's say I use an app on mobile phone on their WiFi. Surely they can't see what app I'm using?

I completely get the web history element as that's a URL from an ip address. It's the other stuff that freaks me. "

Best way is to ask them what they can see on your laptop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Given the right software they can see EVERYTHING!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally just wouldn’t risk doing anything with work equipment just save it for private life and use own phone/laptop and WiFi

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By *hemainintain OP Man
over a year ago

govan

"Given the right software they can see EVERYTHING!"

Scary that.

I better do some bloody work and stop perving!!

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By *uriousTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Interesting topic since GDPR... porn is sackable, but is Fab/Swinging a protected topic? Is it porn or adult dating?

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By *hemainintain OP Man
over a year ago

govan

"Interesting topic since GDPR... porn is sackable, but is Fab/Swinging a protected topic? Is it porn or adult dating?"

Some answer that! GDPR!!

I'm more worries about wee Maureen in HR scrolling through my pics!!

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By *hemainintain OP Man
over a year ago

govan

So we're saying. If on phone at work, log off WiFi if you want to perve.

If on work laptop anywhere don't so much as fucking sneeze onto anything other than email programme unless prepared to be sacked for gross miss wank duct.

Finally, so all the phone data collated by my provider of home WiFi or network provider. Take it they see everything as well????????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We can see everything our employees are doing. We can also remotely access their laptop and phones and work on it. But they are told from day one. Work hardware is for work haha

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By *tag and HellcatCouple
over a year ago

Notts/Derby

If you want to get an idea of their capabilities (and possibly so scared that you'll need type a naughty word again), look up https://activtrak.com/

This is just one of the many monitoring services out that and it doesn't matter where you are, as soon as you have an internet connection, it can upload data.

Personally, I keep it

honest

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By *exycouplesswingCouple
over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells

Think you might want to get yourself down to a high st electronics store and grab yourself a cheap laptop!

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By *erterjonesMan
over a year ago

Warrington

"This is just one of the many monitoring services out that and it doesn't matter where you are, as soon as you have an internet connection, it can upload data."

Oh fuck.....

I've been using my work laptop to search and apply for jobs.....

I've just been TUPE so as there are 500 new members of staff, who cares

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By *erterjonesMan
over a year ago

Warrington

"Think you might want to get yourself down to a high st electronics store and grab yourself a cheap laptop! "

totally agree

It's what I've done

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By *ilthyfucks69Couple
over a year ago

Neverland

This is definitely a sackable offence so you need to be smart. Fab is put into the porn category I believe that's why you can't use public WiFi for it alot of the time. Get off their WiFi before perving

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The last company I worked for had a system in place where it created a complete log of all internet activity if a virus was detected.

I was managing one of their support teams at the time and was involved in investigating one user who had been looking at porn on his work laptop.

He'd tried to cover his tracks - unsuccessfully, and ended up getting the boot.

The simple answer is don't use your work laptop for any adult material. I'd go a step further and recommend you don't use it for personal use at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My friend won't even check her personal emails on her work laptop when she's at home! Strictly work only ... or they'll see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How much can an employer see on a work laptop? I'd never log on here but my employer also owns the IT firm who supply the laptops.

How does it work? If I'm on the work WiFi on my phone can they see what sites I am on?

If on the work laptop at home would they see what sites the laptop visits??

Like I said nothing major to hide but I worry that firms install key logging software etc and just monitor everything.

Does that go on????

Depends who you work for?

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By *y favourite knickersCouple
over a year ago

doncaster

Dint do it. If they don’t have the technology now they will go at some point in the future

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I was caught about 13 month ago using works laptop and phone to chat on swing sites, got call into a meeting about in wher they had copy of all my messages and pics of me and hubby

Had to leave job in end

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Dint do it. If they don’t have the technology now they will go at some point in the future "

Definitely this!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Any good compamy will log all internet traffic through their firewalls if only to protect themselves and more often use third party website filtering to further control what sites can and can't be accessed for work purposes.

A good company will also always have in their code of conduct rules about use of company equipment and communication which will no doubt ban adult content such as porn, gambling and installing your own personal software including other VPN tools.

While IT may not actively look for what you might be looking at, when requested by HR they will be able to pull browsing history from the firewall (not your browser history so clearing that is pointless) and in most cases look at what you have saved on your computer.

It really isn't worth losing your job over and data is so cheap on sims now (i get effectively 40gb per month from virgin media for less than £20).

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By *ids_NaughtyCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands

Equally even if you have your own device, with no work software on it, such as VPN, Intune etc. So a totally work clear device, but then use their WiFi they can still see every site you are accessing, and they can see which device is being used to do so. So if it’s your personal phone, they can still see you accessing Facebook, and technically they can then also then access your account, see your posts and pictures. Most workplace WiFis will have a conditions of use. Regardless of if it’s your own device or work provided one connecting to it. The simple argument will be you are at work, so should be working not on fab, Facebook etc. So not only would I get a personal device, I’d still steer clear of using their WiFi if you not working, and perhaps do some work at work!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

While they would be able to see what sites you are on they wouldn't be able to see what you are doing on a site with a personal device on their wifi as a sites SSL certificate should stop data being readable if intercepted, and they will likely block unknown VPN traffic so stay off the company wifi.

It's also worth looking into possible VPN for your personal devices for when you do have to use wifi because of poor data signal (hotels, public wifi, large venue, friends house - i have a guest segment if my home wifi, etc.) or even because your ISP are required to log your internet activity and if rewired provide to provide logs if they receive a legal court order. I use PIA (Private Internet Access) as my VPN provider which i can use on 5 devices.

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

I’m certainly not an expert on IT, but legally speaking I’m sure your company has to have clear policies in place about inappropriate use of equipment, and have specifically made you aware that it may want to check your systems for this.

However there was an interesting European court ruling a couple of years ago that decided employees accessing emails, Facebook etc on company equipment were entitled to privacy and the employer couldn’t arbitrarily sanction their use, beyond having a policy on excessive use / time wasting.

Also I reckon most companies of any size have got very little interest or time to investigate computer and phone use in much detail, eg was it a work phone call or were you calling the gas man. And in the companies I have worked for, if they did, it would be the MD who was the number one offender.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How much can an employer see on a work laptop? I'd never log on here but my employer also owns the IT firm who supply the laptops.

How does it work? If I'm on the work WiFi on my phone can they see what sites I am on?

If on the work laptop at home would they see what sites the laptop visits??

Like I said nothing major to hide but I worry that firms install key logging software etc and just monitor everything.

Does that go on????

I use to work in IT before doing what I do no; we use to use a program called Active Trac - this would sit quietly, undetected in the background and monitor EVERYTHING the user does. It would monitor keystrokes, conversations, periodically do screen grabs, know what websites you've been on and for how long, auto record the screen if prohibited websites were visited, see productivity of the user and do mass reporting once a week. Very useful.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

My personal line, regardless of law or (to some extent) policies would be "do I want my boss knowing about this?" So groceries, clothes to some extent, news, sure. Fab, politics, etc, no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Many companies allow you to use their equipment for some casual use during breaks/lunch but all must still be within bounds of company policy so some news, bit of gmail/hotmail correspondence is fine and is protected by that services SSL baring any client side monitoring tools but should really aim to stick to is work assets are for work and not personal things.

Not many will know or have read in their contract, usually anything done on a work computer/laptop, in work time or not, is the intellectual propery of the employer unless otherwise agreed.

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By *ids_NaughtyCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands

"Many companies allow you to use their equipment for some casual use during breaks/lunch but all must still be within bounds of company policy so some news, bit of gmail/hotmail correspondence is fine and is protected by that services SSL baring any client side monitoring tools but should really aim to stick to is work assets are for work and not personal things.

Not many will know or have read in their contract, usually anything done on a work computer/laptop, in work time or not, is the intellectual propery of the employer unless otherwise agreed."

This is correct and what people need to understand - along with fair usage, so a bit of Facebook is likely to be allowed etc, but comes down to quite simply you there to work, and if they think you are simply sitting there just facebooking all day long, it isn’t about the site you have accessed but more the case you Simply not doing any work, and using their bandwidth for your gain not theirs.

Not many will know or have read in their contract, usually anything done on a work computer/laptop, in work time or not, is the intellectual propery of the employer unless otherwise agreed.

However the view that VPN,SSL will save you when you sat on someone else’s WiFi - especially an enterprise company one, it won’t. Not only does the IPR statement above stand, but technically the way to think about it is you in prison and sending your letters via the prisons post service, it may eventually end up being delivered by Royal Mail, bit before that I can in essence open that letter, read it, before sealing the letter up. Simple answer if you don’t want your company, or a stranger not having access to your information, don’t use any WiFi other than your own, use 4g, and only use apps that encrypt end to end,

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

They can generally see everything that equipment is doing on their network, whether browser or app based. A personal vpn could make it harder but may also be against their policy.

Assume that anything you ever do on the laptop anywhere is also monitored. You would ideally never encounter any personal activity or data on it.

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