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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis?" He may be showing his big black penis but that dosn't mean he has to be defined by it. | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? He may be showing his big black penis but that dosn't mean he has to be defined by it. " I understand that but the name, the pics, may enhance the stereotype. | |||
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"I'd like to add, not all black men have big dicks. The same way not all white men have big dicks. The colour of someone doesn't denote how big their cock is but their brogues do!" Couldn't agree more to that and I ain't saying that because I wear brogues... | |||
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"So I am noticing a very disturbing trend going on on Fab and the the swinging world, which is the tendency to equate black men with their cocks and summing up the individual, their thoughts, outlook and humanness by the acronym BBC. To me, this harks back to the obsession with black men’s appendages and the trickling along of tired and old racist tropes that white men used to make us seem otherworldly and scary even! Sure, some Black men use the term to describe themselves which I find disappointing but can see why they would feed into this on a site like this. However, the majority of Black men do not take kindly to people assuming that it is OK to reach out and label us as such. It is very unhealthy, almost alarming that people don’t see the racist undertones of this and blissfully go along describing a group of people solely by their cock! For most black men, a couple or single woman using that word indiscriminately provides an insight into just how easily people buy into these things without actually stopping to think about how harmful it is. Thoughts? This is a healthy debate so don’t be afraid to express yourself but do itin a respectful manner.." I'm shocked | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis?" You miss the point. I like being black, but that doesn’t mean I should like BBC. The emphasis is on being dehumanized for a cock, get it! And if I have a big penis as you say, it doesn’t give you the liberty to dehumanise me for it. It doesn’t happen to white men with big cocks so why should it apply here. Actually your are the one perpetuating the problem with your thinking | |||
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"Is it correct to call something that has existed since Fab started a trend?" It still doesn’t make it right does it? It’s like saying it’s OK to be misogynistic since it has existed for all time.. | |||
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"I quite agree, it's a very narrow view and quite disrespectful . I like to see a man as a whole, I do enjoy a big black cock at times but only if it's attached to a big, interesting, charming, dominant black man. " Thank you | |||
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"I quite agree, it's a very narrow view and quite disrespectful . I like to see a man as a whole, I do enjoy a big black cock at times but only if it's attached to a big, interesting, charming, dominant black man. Thank you" You're welcome. X | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. " I have to agree with this. There are several profiles that denote these phrases as this is how they choose to be perceived on the site. | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? You miss the point. I like being black, but that doesn’t mean I should like BBC. The emphasis is on being dehumanized for a cock, get it! And if I have a big penis as you say, it doesn’t give you the liberty to dehumanise me for it. It doesn’t happen to white men with big cocks so why should it apply here. Actually your are the one perpetuating the problem with your thinking" Well you did ask....and my thinking is obviously Er ....my thinking. If you don’t want people’s thoughts best not to ask but then the debate will be pretty short if you then ask but shoot down the response. In MY view, your name doesn’t help dispel the myth of describing yourself by your skin colour and not expecting others to do similar. I did, however, make a massive assumption that the lady in the pic was not your partner and you were being a bull for white people. Do I have an excuse for that? Probably not and ashamed I made that assumption. And there lies the problem. I think of myself as non racist, liberal, inclusive and I made an assumption. I can think of a tenuous link but I’m guessing you would not like to hear it..... | |||
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"It's laughable that people use this term. I kind of wonder how little self respect that the black guys gave that enable it. Then you get the white half of the deal lamp post pissing about black guys being better than white as if they're a commodity. Just enjoy having sex without bringing politics into it" And you are right. There’s not enough self respect with some men and that’s because they absorb subliminal messages about their worth. The commodity thing is so distasteful and you see it a lot at parties. Politics pervades everything | |||
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"I'd like to add, not all black men have big dicks. The same way not all white men have big dicks. The colour of someone doesn't denote how big their cock is but their brogues do! Couldn't agree more to that and I ain't saying that because I wear brogues..." Second that - it’s infantile at best to think that’s the case. | |||
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"I'd like to add, not all black men have big dicks. The same way not all white men have big dicks. The colour of someone doesn't denote how big their cock is but their brogues do! Couldn't agree more to that and I ain't saying that because I wear brogues... Second that - it’s infantile at best to think that’s the case. " Need to show the wife this. She really still does believe it’s the case! | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. " And I think I explained it in my initial message. It doesn’t make it right though does it. The fact that they, not all black men I may add, buy into it and use it even though it is harmful, doesn’t mean that others should use the same terms.. | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. And I think I explained it in my initial message. It doesn’t make it right though does it. The fact that they, not all black men I may add, buy into it and use it even though it is harmful, doesn’t mean that others should use the same terms.." I really want to understand this, honestly I do...and as I can’t possibly feel like you do, can you gently explain how it’s harmful? | |||
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"Pausing for thought.....even without swinging people say things like, for example in the gym, “the big black fella” or in football, “ the big black centre forward” but never the “the big white fella” even if he’s bigger!!! I’m positive it’s not racist but does it come across as such? Or be like saying big blonde fella??? Just a description... However, my son when young was watching boxing with me and said he wanted the guy with red shorts to win....one was black guy, one was white. Younger generation less likely to describe by skin colour? I was delighted son only saw two fellas too" This happens a lot describing a black man by his skin colour maybe it’s jyst easier I don’t know. When there’s a group of blokes say 6 and 1 is black the others all white it’s easier to say the black guy I used to get it when I was younger. I don’t think people mean anything by it though | |||
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"Good post OP. Appreciate that people have preferences but the fetish is closely linked to old racist tropes. Some people market themselves like that which I find disappointing but it's their choice. " Again I have to question some guys not helping the cause....profile name and pics of a large penis!! Trying to be light hearted a little but you see what I’m saying right? | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. " The old, "but black people use it, so why can't I". This completely misses the point. The notion of the dominant, scary, sexually animalistic black man preying on angelic white women was started by white men and has seen countless black men unduly killed as a result | |||
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"Pausing for thought.....even without swinging people say things like, for example in the gym, “the big black fella” or in football, “ the big black centre forward” but never the “the big white fella” even if he’s bigger!!! I’m positive it’s not racist but does it come across as such? Or be like saying big blonde fella??? Just a description... However, my son when young was watching boxing with me and said he wanted the guy with red shorts to win....one was black guy, one was white. Younger generation less likely to describe by skin colour? I was delighted son only saw two fellas too This happens a lot describing a black man by his skin colour maybe it’s jyst easier I don’t know. When there’s a group of blokes say 6 and 1 is black the others all white it’s easier to say the black guy I used to get it when I was younger. I don’t think people mean anything by it though " I agree. And I don’t want to be one of those people trying too hard to be politically correct all the time. | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? You miss the point. I like being black, but that doesn’t mean I should like BBC. The emphasis is on being dehumanized for a cock, get it! And if I have a big penis as you say, it doesn’t give you the liberty to dehumanise me for it. It doesn’t happen to white men with big cocks so why should it apply here. Actually your are the one perpetuating the problem with your thinking Well you did ask....and my thinking is obviously Er ....my thinking. If you don’t want people’s thoughts best not to ask but then the debate will be pretty short if you then ask but shoot down the response. In MY view, your name doesn’t help dispel the myth of describing yourself by your skin colour and not expecting others to do similar. I did, however, make a massive assumption that the lady in the pic was not your partner and you were being a bull for white people. Do I have an excuse for that? Probably not and ashamed I made that assumption. And there lies the problem. I think of myself as non racist, liberal, inclusive and I made an assumption. I can think of a tenuous link but I’m guessing you would not like to hear it..... " On the contrary, I would like to hear it. This is an adult debate and I laud you for being able to identify the leap your made in your assumptions. Here I was pointing out an issue and the first thing you saw was how I looked, We are all here to have fun and it’s with anyone irrespective of colour. Being with a white woman or couple doesn’t automatically mean that it was based on say a BBC tag. They don’t have to be my partner so that’s neither here no there. The fact that you assume that anyone who happens to be white and maybe not my partner automatically feeds a stereotype is actually telling at best about how our society has politicised sex too. Some of us genuinely connect with people beyond what their complexion is, believe it or not. My name says I am Black, cos I happen to be and cos I am very proud to be. There’s no reason why being black should equate to BBC, which brings me back to my initial point. | |||
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"Good post OP. Appreciate that people have preferences but the fetish is closely linked to old racist tropes. Some people market themselves like that which I find disappointing but it's their choice. Again I have to question some guys not helping the cause....profile name and pics of a large penis!! Trying to be light hearted a little but you see what I’m saying right?" Is it their fault they have a big penis? Some people don't help the cause but to each and their own. | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. The old, "but black people use it, so why can't I". This completely misses the point. The notion of the dominant, scary, sexually animalistic black man preying on angelic white women was started by white men and has seen countless black men unduly killed as a result" I get ya. It is easy to forget the history at times for whites. All I saw was bbc thing on the thread as a harmless, and to be fair, sort of complimentary thing. Need these discussions to keep seeing why it’s wrong... | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. And I think I explained it in my initial message. It doesn’t make it right though does it. The fact that they, not all black men I may add, buy into it and use it even though it is harmful, doesn’t mean that others should use the same terms.." But how do you know they find it harmful or demeaning. I can see your point and I must admit you have explained it perfectly however some people may be happy with being identified as such and unless there is a change in rules on fab that permits the use of the term I'm afraid most people will continue to use the phrase. | |||
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"Good post OP. Appreciate that people have preferences but the fetish is closely linked to old racist tropes. Some people market themselves like that which I find disappointing but it's their choice. Again I have to question some guys not helping the cause....profile name and pics of a large penis!! Trying to be light hearted a little but you see what I’m saying right? Is it their fault they have a big penis? Some people don't help the cause but to each and their own." I guess so. But if you read a lot of profile names you can straight away tell ethnicity. Should we not put that kind of label to bed? If I called myself “white Anglo Johnny” would it seem ok? | |||
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"Good post OP. Appreciate that people have preferences but the fetish is closely linked to old racist tropes. Some people market themselves like that which I find disappointing but it's their choice. " This. | |||
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"Would a racist be looking for a big black cock???? To me it's just the same as looking for a guy who is w/e. Most people use BBC, mmf, vwe, you (op) are seeing something that isn't there. " It is there, and it has been throughout history and to the current day. Racism is much more nuanced than just not liking black people, generalizing and stereotyping based on someone's race can be just as damaging. | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. The old, "but black people use it, so why can't I". This completely misses the point. The notion of the dominant, scary, sexually animalistic black man preying on angelic white women was started by white men and has seen countless black men unduly killed as a result I get ya. It is easy to forget the history at times for whites. All I saw was bbc thing on the thread as a harmless, and to be fair, sort of complimentary thing. Need these discussions to keep seeing why it’s wrong..." And that's part of the problem. Easy to forget, easy to ignore, easy to do nothing about. Not directed at you but just a general observation | |||
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"Would a racist be looking for a big black cock???? To me it's just the same as looking for a guy who is w/e. Most people use BBC, mmf, vwe, you (op) are seeing something that isn't there. " Being racist doesn’t always have to be the way you see it. Sterotyping someone can still be racist but not in the harmful way. It’s like stereotyping all Indians to loving spicy food | |||
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"I'd like to add, not all black men have big dicks. The same way not all white men have big dicks. The colour of someone doesn't denote how big their cock is. " Brilliantly put and 100% true. | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? You miss the point. I like being black, but that doesn’t mean I should like BBC. The emphasis is on being dehumanized for a cock, get it! And if I have a big penis as you say, it doesn’t give you the liberty to dehumanise me for it. It doesn’t happen to white men with big cocks so why should it apply here. Actually your are the one perpetuating the problem with your thinking Well you did ask....and my thinking is obviously Er ....my thinking. If you don’t want people’s thoughts best not to ask but then the debate will be pretty short if you then ask but shoot down the response. In MY view, your name doesn’t help dispel the myth of describing yourself by your skin colour and not expecting others to do similar. I did, however, make a massive assumption that the lady in the pic was not your partner and you were being a bull for white people. Do I have an excuse for that? Probably not and ashamed I made that assumption. And there lies the problem. I think of myself as non racist, liberal, inclusive and I made an assumption. I can think of a tenuous link but I’m guessing you would not like to hear it..... On the contrary, I would like to hear it. This is an adult debate and I laud you for being able to identify the leap your made in your assumptions. Here I was pointing out an issue and the first thing you saw was how I looked, We are all here to have fun and it’s with anyone irrespective of colour. Being with a white woman or couple doesn’t automatically mean that it was based on say a BBC tag. They don’t have to be my partner so that’s neither here no there. The fact that you assume that anyone who happens to be white and maybe not my partner automatically feeds a stereotype is actually telling at best about how our society has politicised sex too. Some of us genuinely connect with people beyond what their complexion is, believe it or not. My name says I am Black, cos I happen to be and cos I am very proud to be. There’s no reason why being black should equate to BBC, which brings me back to my initial point." Firstly I don’t get being proud of being born a certain race, colour, or being proud of where ones from...I’m neither saying it’s something to be ashamed of either....just pure luck where one is born and pride should be based on how one behaves....in my view. Secondly, I’m so glad this thread was made and underlined that as open minded as think I am, I did make a poor assumption. Now....growing up in the north of England in the 60s, and 70s we were absolutely fed racist bile, and also “innocent” racism in the form of tv programmes. Disgusting looking back now. My wife DOES have a thing for black men too.....we always have our fantasies around her and a black man..with the big penis. So on a swinger site, I’m making an excuse that’s what I visualised on your pics....seeing me taking pics of you shagging my wife....sex to the forefront and casual racism ashamedly came out. After this I will no longer use the term or get involved in threads keeping up the terms you see as derogatory. 55 years old and still learning. | |||
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"I'd like to add, not all black men have big dicks. The same way not all white men have big dicks. The colour of someone doesn't denote how big their cock is. Brilliantly put and 100% true. " Well I’m white and definitely don’t have a big dick!!! | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. The old, "but black people use it, so why can't I". This completely misses the point. The notion of the dominant, scary, sexually animalistic black man preying on angelic white women was started by white men and has seen countless black men unduly killed as a result I get ya. It is easy to forget the history at times for whites. All I saw was bbc thing on the thread as a harmless, and to be fair, sort of complimentary thing. Need these discussions to keep seeing why it’s wrong... And that's part of the problem. Easy to forget, easy to ignore, easy to do nothing about. Not directed at you but just a general observation" I totally understand. Well I say that, white people will never totally understand. I spent a lot of time on Facebook arguing with Christians on their bible and the way it was used to endorse slavery until not too long ago. So I’m a little angry at myself for not seeing my own bias on here. I’ll be working on that | |||
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"My partner who sadly passed away 3 yrs ago was a black man and no he wasn’t defined by the size of his cock which was average ... but to me he was Martin my partner and a male ... colour was never seen ... he was irritating as a male ha ha not as a black man ... but we met on another swing site and he was a single black male meeting couples and it was the couples who described him as a black bull etc .. he never used this in his profile description and his profile name didn’t have black in it all .... was his old Army nickname ... Bomber so you would never know " I'm sorry you lost him . X | |||
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"I'd like to add, not all black men have big dicks. The same way not all white men have big dicks. The colour of someone doesn't denote how big their cock is. " This is very true. What's sad is that quite often it is the guy themselves who have reduced themselves to their appendage in order to increase their chances of being noticed. Like an earlier commentator, I agree that the appendage on its own means nothing if not attached to a good person | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. The old, "but black people use it, so why can't I". This completely misses the point. The notion of the dominant, scary, sexually animalistic black man preying on angelic white women was started by white men and has seen countless black men unduly killed as a result I get ya. It is easy to forget the history at times for whites. All I saw was bbc thing on the thread as a harmless, and to be fair, sort of complimentary thing. Need these discussions to keep seeing why it’s wrong... And that's part of the problem. Easy to forget, easy to ignore, easy to do nothing about. Not directed at you but just a general observation I totally understand. Well I say that, white people will never totally understand. I spent a lot of time on Facebook arguing with Christians on their bible and the way it was used to endorse slavery until not too long ago. So I’m a little angry at myself for not seeing my own bias on here. I’ll be working on that " Just want to say thank you to both of you. To you Soul for putting your point across so well and you Thumperandbambi for engaging. It's so easy for these conversations to boil over but they really don't have to. They can be honest and progressive. | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. The old, "but black people use it, so why can't I". This completely misses the point. The notion of the dominant, scary, sexually animalistic black man preying on angelic white women was started by white men and has seen countless black men unduly killed as a result I get ya. It is easy to forget the history at times for whites. All I saw was bbc thing on the thread as a harmless, and to be fair, sort of complimentary thing. Need these discussions to keep seeing why it’s wrong... And that's part of the problem. Easy to forget, easy to ignore, easy to do nothing about. Not directed at you but just a general observation I totally understand. Well I say that, white people will never totally understand. I spent a lot of time on Facebook arguing with Christians on their bible and the way it was used to endorse slavery until not too long ago. So I’m a little angry at myself for not seeing my own bias on here. I’ll be working on that Just want to say thank you to both of you. To you Soul for putting your point across so well and you Thumperandbambi for engaging. It's so easy for these conversations to boil over but they really don't have to. They can be honest and progressive. " I love a good debate a mass debate is better!! | |||
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"There is a difference between describing yourself as black....... than describing yourself as bbc....... Your describing yourself as a blackman not a bbc;-) I describe myself as someone who likes blackmen,the person as a whole I often get messages 'so you like bbc' my answer is always yes I like some blackmen In porn and swinging blackmen can often be described as a BBC,a word I do not use myself out of respect for the person and not to alieniate those I'm looking for,I don't see it changing and yes it's a more widely used term now,just don't take it to heart,I'm described as a bbw in this world something I can't change either " Looking forward to the response to this....I will hold my council for a while... | |||
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"There was someone on here last year who had a status about only wanting BWC and she was called racist... then I thought but it’s okay to say only looking for BBC? I sometimes see it as reverse racism to be honest. But that’s just me " That’s the point I think....should not say either....just big cock would do. | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. The old, "but black people use it, so why can't I". This completely misses the point. The notion of the dominant, scary, sexually animalistic black man preying on angelic white women was started by white men and has seen countless black men unduly killed as a result I get ya. It is easy to forget the history at times for whites. All I saw was bbc thing on the thread as a harmless, and to be fair, sort of complimentary thing. Need these discussions to keep seeing why it’s wrong... And that's part of the problem. Easy to forget, easy to ignore, easy to do nothing about. Not directed at you but just a general observation I totally understand. Well I say that, white people will never totally understand. I spent a lot of time on Facebook arguing with Christians on their bible and the way it was used to endorse slavery until not too long ago. So I’m a little angry at myself for not seeing my own bias on here. I’ll be working on that Just want to say thank you to both of you. To you Soul for putting your point across so well and you Thumperandbambi for engaging. It's so easy for these conversations to boil over but they really don't have to. They can be honest and progressive. " Well said, I completely agree. | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. The old, "but black people use it, so why can't I". This completely misses the point. The notion of the dominant, scary, sexually animalistic black man preying on angelic white women was started by white men and has seen countless black men unduly killed as a result I get ya. It is easy to forget the history at times for whites. All I saw was bbc thing on the thread as a harmless, and to be fair, sort of complimentary thing. Need these discussions to keep seeing why it’s wrong... And that's part of the problem. Easy to forget, easy to ignore, easy to do nothing about. Not directed at you but just a general observation I totally understand. Well I say that, white people will never totally understand. I spent a lot of time on Facebook arguing with Christians on their bible and the way it was used to endorse slavery until not too long ago. So I’m a little angry at myself for not seeing my own bias on here. I’ll be working on that Just want to say thank you to both of you. To you Soul for putting your point across so well and you Thumperandbambi for engaging. It's so easy for these conversations to boil over but they really don't have to. They can be honest and progressive. " No problem, good discussion and it's great when people are open to self reflection. | |||
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"There is a difference between describing yourself as black....... than describing yourself as bbc....... Your describing yourself as a blackman not a bbc;-) I describe myself as someone who likes blackmen,the person as a whole I often get messages 'so you like bbc' my answer is always yes I like some blackmen In porn and swinging blackmen can often be described as a BBC,a word I do not use myself out of respect for the person and not to alieniate those I'm looking for,I don't see it changing and yes it's a more widely used term now,just don't take it to heart,I'm described as a bbw in this world something I can't change either Looking forward to the response to this....I will hold my council for a while..." BBW is not linked to anything historically racist. That's the key difference. | |||
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"There is a difference between describing yourself as black....... than describing yourself as bbc....... Your describing yourself as a blackman not a bbc;-) I describe myself as someone who likes blackmen,the person as a whole I often get messages 'so you like bbc' my answer is always yes I like some blackmen In porn and swinging blackmen can often be described as a BBC,a word I do not use myself out of respect for the person and not to alieniate those I'm looking for,I don't see it changing and yes it's a more widely used term now,just don't take it to heart,I'm described as a bbw in this world something I can't change either Looking forward to the response to this....I will hold my council for a while... BBW is not linked to anything historically racist. That's the key difference. " Yes, and at least Big Beautiful Woman is referring to the woman as a whole and not dehumanizing her by identifying her just set sexual organs. | |||
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"There is a difference between describing yourself as black....... than describing yourself as bbc....... Your describing yourself as a blackman not a bbc;-) I describe myself as someone who likes blackmen,the person as a whole I often get messages 'so you like bbc' my answer is always yes I like some blackmen In porn and swinging blackmen can often be described as a BBC,a word I do not use myself out of respect for the person and not to alieniate those I'm looking for,I don't see it changing and yes it's a more widely used term now,just don't take it to heart,I'm described as a bbw in this world something I can't change either Looking forward to the response to this....I will hold my council for a while... BBW is not linked to anything historically racist. That's the key difference. Yes, and at least Big Beautiful Woman is referring to the woman as a whole and not dehumanizing her by identifying her just set sexual organs." Precisely. I see BBW as a celebration of women as a whole. | |||
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"Would a racist be looking for a big black cock???? To me it's just the same as looking for a guy who is w/e. Most people use BBC, mmf, vwe, you (op) are seeing something that isn't there. " No, I am not. And once more, another person steps up to tell me that what I clearly see and experience is not there and asking me to take their opinions for what it is while at the same time invalidating mine. | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. And I think I explained it in my initial message. It doesn’t make it right though does it. The fact that they, not all black men I may add, buy into it and use it even though it is harmful, doesn’t mean that others should use the same terms.. But how do you know they find it harmful or demeaning. I can see your point and I must admit you have explained it perfectly however some people may be happy with being identified as such and unless there is a change in rules on fab that permits the use of the term I'm afraid most people will continue to use the phrase." You know it’s harmful and demeaning by listening to Black men who tell you it is. There’s a lot of history that this comes from and it doesn’t just exist in a vacuum. Some people might be happy being identified as such but white property should not go assuming it’s OK cos a few black ppl might like it. If someone describes them as such, it’s a good place to start in knowing whether they would have a problem with it or not. But the problem is when you assume that it’s OK for all and use it indiscrimately. As usual, as with most things a little nuance should be exercised. | |||
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"The wife loves to fantasise about a black man with a large penis. And we talk about her previous encounters with black men. 3 times she’s experienced it and 3 times they were large in the penis area. Very large. Went to PDI beach and one black man there, massive penis. We both couldn’t help looking. Is this ok to continue our sex talk and fantasy? " Of course, you are entitled to your fantasies. Do some black men have big penises? Yes. Do some white men? Yes. Do all men? Yes. But somehow it seems to be that it is regarded that ALL black men have big penises. Now you have to ask yourself how that started. My point is a simple one - simply labelling someone by a cock just because they happen to have melanin, is absolutely ridiculous if you look at it closely. Just imagine yourself as a visitor to this planet (as detached as possible) and getting told this. See what I mean? | |||
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"The wife loves to fantasise about a black man with a large penis. And we talk about her previous encounters with black men. 3 times she’s experienced it and 3 times they were large in the penis area. Very large. Went to PDI beach and one black man there, massive penis. We both couldn’t help looking. Is this ok to continue our sex talk and fantasy? Of course, you are entitled to your fantasies. Do some black men have big penises? Yes. Do some white men? Yes. Do all men? Yes. But somehow it seems to be that it is regarded that ALL black men have big penises. Now you have to ask yourself how that started. My point is a simple one - simply labelling someone by a cock just because they happen to have melanin, is absolutely ridiculous if you look at it closely. Just imagine yourself as a visitor to this planet (as detached as possible) and getting told this. See what I mean?" Oh I do know what you mean. Wife got lucky, I know that. But if was large white cock (she’s had a couple) v large black one, she would choose the black one. She finds lots black men very attractive. More so than good looking white men. | |||
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"Hi Op! I think you have a salient point - but like many other black guys your colour is made obvious by your profile name! Obviously you use black because you’re black - but ‘metal’ would suggest both a hard body and a hard cock - would it not? Thus promoting the assumptions/imagery that you say you despise? I haven’t done a survey of course - but from my observations on here at least 50% of black people announce their colour in some way by their profile name alone - whilst very few white people do! Personally I see that as a positive in some respects because (I assume) that it means the person is ‘owning ‘ their colour as an intrinsic part of their identity - instead of seeing it as a liability as it might have been - say - 50+ years ago? Personally I look forward to the day when someone’s colour is considered virtually irrelevant to their desirability by the masses - but unfortunately we may be a long way away from that! Secondly there’s the issue of the many, many interracial parties that just about every swingers club has! I’ve been to very few of them but found one thing in common that put me off completely - they were a full on cattle market with what seemed to be greedy, indiscriminate play - essentially people seemed to be having copious amounts of sex for the sake of it without forming a social connection/chemistry first - some people’s idea of a fabulous time no doubt - but my idea of hell and - to me - it perpetuated the impression that black guys are merely ‘bulls’ to shag and not socialise with! However - to me it’s no different in many aspects to the fetishising of BBW’s that happens on fab both via many, many ‘admirer’ threads and countless swinging club parties! Essentially - most people seem to be happy to be labelled when it works in their favour! Sorry my response was such a long one! " I think we know why white people dont feel the need to describe themselves as white or in most cases are even uncomfortable being described as such. Because you are brought up to think your colour doesn’t sum you up and that’s a reflection of the society we live in. You are right. Historically, black has been associated with negativity and still continues to this day. The more I think about that, the more I see our society as ridiculous and wrong on this and so many other things. I love being the colour I am, I revel in it, our history and enjoy what it makes me.. but above all, I see that I am human first and foremost! There’s nothing wrong with being attracted to someone cos of the color of their skin but that should not be the be all and end all of it. You hopefully have to get to know the person beyond that or what’s the point. You are right about the interracial parties and the scene. A lot of it when looked at closely feeds on a lot of historically racist tropes and that is terrible. | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. The old, "but black people use it, so why can't I". This completely misses the point. The notion of the dominant, scary, sexually animalistic black man preying on angelic white women was started by white men and has seen countless black men unduly killed as a result So black guys can market themselves as BBC's etc but if a white person asks for a BBC they're not allowed? Seems kind of racist to me I think you’ve missed the whole point of what being said No I understand he's linked people using the term BBC to lynching. I just didn't want to comment about how ridiculous I found it Perhaps you should go on a journey to educated yourself. Google Emmet Till as a start. " Again, thanks! | |||
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"My partner who sadly passed away 3 yrs ago was a black man and no he wasn’t defined by the size of his cock which was average ... but to me he was Martin my partner and a male ... colour was never seen ... he was irritating as a male ha ha not as a black man ... but we met on another swing site and he was a single black male meeting couples and it was the couples who described him as a black bull etc .. he never used this in his profile description and his profile name didn’t have black in it all .... was his old Army nickname ... Bomber so you would never know I'm sorry you lost him . X" Thanks ... yep was totally poop | |||
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"There is a difference between describing yourself as black....... than describing yourself as bbc....... Your describing yourself as a blackman not a bbc;-) I describe myself as someone who likes blackmen,the person as a whole I often get messages 'so you like bbc' my answer is always yes I like some blackmen In porn and swinging blackmen can often be described as a BBC,a word I do not use myself out of respect for the person and not to alieniate those I'm looking for,I don't see it changing and yes it's a more widely used term now,just don't take it to heart,I'm described as a bbw in this world something I can't change either Looking forward to the response to this....I will hold my council for a while... BBW is not linked to anything historically racist. That's the key difference. Yes, and at least Big Beautiful Woman is referring to the woman as a whole and not dehumanizing her by identifying her just set sexual organs." Yes I understand what all of you have said,however the middle b is an assumption were not all beautiful (my interpretation of me is a bigbum woman ) Not all blackmen have a big one (my interpretation is a beautiful black cock) yes there is a racial history and I wish we could all move on from that,and appreciate everybody is here to enjoy their preferences,and should be respected, people as a person not object | |||
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"I really want to thank everyone for really putting their thoughts across on this thread. I think engaging and airing out these issues is the way forward to understanding that at the base of it all, we are all people who happen to have different backgrounds and complexions. As I have pointed out before, it’s all about nuance. You don’t get the right to call me what I don’t want to be called just because others are doing so, albeit wrongly. It’s about respect. Treat others as you would like to be treated and you will do well. If you look into yourself and you realize that you wouldn’t want to be summed up by your complexion and cock, you would understand." Exactly | |||
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"So I am noticing a very disturbing trend going on on Fab and the the swinging world, which is the tendency to equate black men with their cocks and summing up the individual, their thoughts, outlook and humanness by the acronym BBC. To me, this harks back to the obsession with black men’s appendages and the trickling along of tired and old racist tropes that white men used to make us seem otherworldly and scary even! Sure, some Black men use the term to describe themselves which I find disappointing but can see why they would feed into this on a site like this. However, the majority of Black men do not take kindly to people assuming that it is OK to reach out and label us as such. It is very unhealthy, almost alarming that people don’t see the racist undertones of this and blissfully go along describing a group of people solely by their cock! For most black men, a couple or single woman using that word indiscriminately provides an insight into just how easily people buy into these things without actually stopping to think about how harmful it is. Thoughts? This is a healthy debate so don’t be afraid to express yourself but do itin a respectful manner.." it will only ever end when: 1) black guys don't use it as some of of oppotunistic advantage and use it to advertise.... 2) people who advertise realise they are turing off as much of their "target audience" as they are using it as a way of whittling down people.... neither is happening anytime soon.... p.s i think its absolutely fare to call people out on the name they choose if they are going to bring up this subject... because again there in lies connertations... | |||
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"This has probably been one of the best posts in the forum in a long time. Loads of different views and opinions and nobody has resorted to pedantic behaviour. " Somebody said “fare” when then meant fair!! | |||
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"I'd like to add, not all black men have big dicks. The same way not all white men have big dicks. The colour of someone doesn't denote how big their cock is. " black men generally have bigger cocks, believe me I have sucked quite a few. | |||
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"So now you are blaming black men for the prevalence of the term BBC? Or am I missing something here?" Im not blaming anyone. Merely highlighting the fact that lots of black guys make a point of using colour in usernames and the term BBC in their profiles. Thus highlighting it. | |||
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"So I am noticing a very disturbing trend going on on Fab and the the swinging world, which is the tendency to equate black men with their cocks and summing up the individual, their thoughts, outlook and humanness by the acronym BBC. To me, this harks back to the obsession with black men’s appendages and the trickling along of tired and old racist tropes that white men used to make us seem otherworldly and scary even! Sure, some Black men use the term to describe themselves which I find disappointing but can see why they would feed into this on a site like this. However, the majority of Black men do not take kindly to people assuming that it is OK to reach out and label us as such. It is very unhealthy, almost alarming that people don’t see the racist undertones of this and blissfully go along describing a group of people solely by their cock! For most black men, a couple or single woman using that word indiscriminately provides an insight into just how easily people buy into these things without actually stopping to think about how harmful it is. Thoughts? This is a healthy debate so don’t be afraid to express yourself but do itin a respectful manner.." I'm also alarm by this trend and by women with the Queen of Spades tattooes... even more alarmed that it seems (by some) to be appreciated. | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. And I think I explained it in my initial message. It doesn’t make it right though does it. The fact that they, not all black men I may add, buy into it and use it even though it is harmful, doesn’t mean that others should use the same terms.. It doesnt make it wrong either if they choose to refer to themselves using those terms either then. " At the risk of sounding like a broken record, and resisting the urge to ask you to reach the whole thread above, referring to yourself as black does not equate to referring to yourself as a BBC. There are two separate things and I am sure you will see the nuance. And yes, referring to yourself as a BBC is harmful because it dehumanises the rest of everyone else who is Black. I didnt think I had to explain this but guess I have to. | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. The old, "but black people use it, so why can't I". This completely misses the point. The notion of the dominant, scary, sexually animalistic black man preying on angelic white women was started by white men and has seen countless black men unduly killed as a result" ..hear hear..straight to the point....respect!!! N yes im white but have been with Deman 32 years ...yes hes black ..yes hes well endowed..but what people need t remember is ...all of the above!!...im actualy sick of seeing profiles on here that blatantly say no blacks or asians ffs all thats missing is no irish no dogs..ladies how would u feel if the guys said no white women ...truth is youd b screaming racists...yeah yeah u can deny it ..yawn ...but its on here in black n white ( hehe no pun intended) | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. And I think I explained it in my initial message. It doesn’t make it right though does it. The fact that they, not all black men I may add, buy into it and use it even though it is harmful, doesn’t mean that others should use the same terms.. It doesnt make it wrong either if they choose to refer to themselves using those terms either then. " Disagree, the fact that some people use a ridiculous racial stereotype to market themselves doesn’t make the term ok. And in my experience those people are frequently actually not black, not possessors of big cocks. So they are not in a position to ‘own’ anything. But I guess ‘mixed race average cock’ isn’t as punchy and doesn’t feed into ancient stereotypes in the same way. | |||
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"I think black men are the main culprits of this. A lot, not all, describe themselves as 'Black bulls' 'bbc' 'black cock' or use their ethnicity as their main selling point - and you wonder why others use the same terms?. And I think I explained it in my initial message. It doesn’t make it right though does it. The fact that they, not all black men I may add, buy into it and use it even though it is harmful, doesn’t mean that others should use the same terms.. It doesnt make it wrong either if they choose to refer to themselves using those terms either then. Disagree, the fact that some people use a ridiculous racial stereotype to market themselves doesn’t make the term ok. And in my experience those people are frequently actually not black, not possessors of big cocks. So they are not in a position to ‘own’ anything. But I guess ‘mixed race average cock’ isn’t as punchy and doesn’t feed into ancient stereotypes in the same way." Thank you! There is a lot of educating to be done to make people aware of these things. But this is what happens when you live in a bubble and don’t actually socialize with anyone who doesn’t look like you!! You get saddled with the ‘other’ syndrome. | |||
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" Secondly there’s the issue of the many, many interracial parties that just about every swingers club has! I’ve been to very few of them but found one thing in common that put me off completely - they were a full on cattle market with what seemed to be greedy, indiscriminate play - essentially people seemed to be having copious amounts of sex for the sake of it without forming a social connection/chemistry first - some people’s idea of a fabulous time no doubt - but my idea of hell and - to me - it perpetuated the impression that black guys are merely ‘bulls’ to shag and not socialise with! " I’m trying really hard but I’m not seeing the problem with the ‘copious amounts of sex for the sake of it’. To my mind that’s not what a sex party is for. If I want sex with a connection I’ll look for it elsewhere.. I am not seasoned IR party attendee, but I have friends who are, and whilst to a new observer this may look like a melée of strangers, in fact the IR scene is fairly small and these people have probably in the main been shagging each other on and off for years. So even if their profile name is ‘MasterDomBullMothrrFucker’, most people in the room probably know him as René with a sweet wife who comes along occasionally but isn’t that fussed and lets him out at weekends to have his fill of willing white pussy. Totally pussy whipped at home but Saturday is Fantasy night. | |||
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"It's laughable that people use this term. I kind of wonder how little self respect that the black guys gave that enable it. Then you get the white half of the deal lamp post pissing about black guys being better than white as if they're a commodity. Just enjoy having sex without bringing politics into it" I don't think you worry so much about politics when you're knee-deep in clunge. I used to hang out with a load of African guys when I lived in Germany and those guys had women throwing themselves at them the whole time, I'm sure if you'd mentioned how racist it was that the German women were only interested in the size of their cocks they'd have been like "well obviously; but would you let it stop you fucking them!?" | |||
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"This whole BLACK BULL business started during slavery . The master's wife watching a black slave work and imaging how it would feel if he was wait on her coz like it or not most black men have stamina as just as our enslaved ancestors did. It is now a fantasy but that's not how it started. We were used as sex objects and sadly that's how some people still see it. For some there is attraction but for others it's just curiosity. Someone said OP calls himself Black Metal and that the Metal part refers to hard and big but I totally disagree not all metal is big and I don't think his username suggests that he's using the size if his cock as what defines him." Thank you. It amazes me how peope made that huge leap in assumption by the mere word Metal after black. Not one person has asked why I have the name or what made me settle on it. Not one! | |||
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"This whole BLACK BULL business started during slavery . The master's wife watching a black slave work and imaging how it would feel if he was wait on her coz like it or not most black men have stamina as just as our enslaved ancestors did. It is now a fantasy but that's not how it started. We were used as sex objects and sadly that's how some people still see it. For some there is attraction but for others it's just curiosity. Someone said OP calls himself Black Metal and that the Metal part refers to hard and big but I totally disagree not all metal is big and I don't think his username suggests that he's using the size if his cock as what defines him. Thank you. It amazes me how peope made that huge leap in assumption by the mere word Metal after black. Not one person has asked why I have the name or what made me settle on it. Not one!" People need to understand that being proud of being black on this platform has nothing to do with the size of our cocks | |||
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"This whole BLACK BULL business started during slavery . The master's wife watching a black slave work and imaging how it would feel if he was wait on her coz like it or not most black men have stamina as just as our enslaved ancestors did. It is now a fantasy but that's not how it started. We were used as sex objects and sadly that's how some people still see it. For some there is attraction but for others it's just curiosity. Someone said OP calls himself Black Metal and that the Metal part refers to hard and big but I totally disagree not all metal is big and I don't think his username suggests that he's using the size if his cock as what defines him. Thank you. It amazes me how peope made that huge leap in assumption by the mere word Metal after black. Not one person has asked why I have the name or what made me settle on it. Not one!" My first thought was the noisy music genre | |||
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"The whole no blacks or Asians comes across as 100% racist your preference maybe a white bloke but does that mean you can’t meet a guy whose black and find him attractive? No but your narrow minded view on the colour of skin stops you from exploring" It’s amazing isn’t it? How people absolutely convince themselves of these things just on the basis of subliminal messages they are fed | |||
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"I quite agree, it's a very narrow view and quite disrespectful . I like to see a man as a whole, I do enjoy a big black cock at times but only if it's attached to a big, interesting, charming, dominant black man. " Yep just to reinforce the point... | |||
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"If I had a tall friend called Jim, and he was black. I could be called a racist if I called him big black Jim, for using his skin colour as a descriptor. However height is not a protected characteristic, therefore I could call my friend big Jim. " No Black person has a problem with you calling them black and I often wonder why white people struggle so much to say the word black. I suggest you go back and read the threads above to really understand what this is about | |||
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"So I am noticing a very disturbing trend going on on Fab and the the swinging world, which is the tendency to equate black men with their cocks and summing up the individual, their thoughts, outlook and humanness by the acronym BBC. To me, this harks back to the obsession with black men’s appendages and the trickling along of tired and old racist tropes that white men used to make us seem otherworldly and scary even! Sure, some Black men use the term to describe themselves which I find disappointing but can see why they would feed into this on a site like this. However, the majority of Black men do not take kindly to people assuming that it is OK to reach out and label us as such. It is very unhealthy, almost alarming that people don’t see the racist undertones of this and blissfully go along describing a group of people solely by their cock! For most black men, a couple or single woman using that word indiscriminately provides an insight into just how easily people buy into these things without actually stopping to think about how harmful it is. Thoughts? This is a healthy debate so don’t be afraid to express yourself but do itin a respectful manner.." Lots of us have expressed ourselves in a respectful manner, however you seem to have issues with other opinions if they differ from yours. If I put only looking for BWC on my profile or describe myself as a SWF (short white female) does that also have racist undertones? | |||
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"So I am noticing a very disturbing trend going on on Fab and the the swinging world, which is the tendency to equate black men with their cocks and summing up the individual, their thoughts, outlook and humanness by the acronym BBC. To me, this harks back to the obsession with black men’s appendages and the trickling along of tired and old racist tropes that white men used to make us seem otherworldly and scary even! Sure, some Black men use the term to describe themselves which I find disappointing but can see why they would feed into this on a site like this. However, the majority of Black men do not take kindly to people assuming that it is OK to reach out and label us as such. It is very unhealthy, almost alarming that people don’t see the racist undertones of this and blissfully go along describing a group of people solely by their cock! For most black men, a couple or single woman using that word indiscriminately provides an insight into just how easily people buy into these things without actually stopping to think about how harmful it is. Thoughts? This is a healthy debate so don’t be afraid to express yourself but do itin a respectful manner.. Lots of us have expressed ourselves in a respectful manner, however you seem to have issues with other opinions if they differ from yours. If I put only looking for BWC on my profile or describe myself as a SWF (short white female) does that also have racist undertones? " all I know is I would suck a BBC | |||
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"So I am noticing a very disturbing trend going on on Fab and the the swinging world, which is the tendency to equate black men with their cocks and summing up the individual, their thoughts, outlook and humanness by the acronym BBC. To me, this harks back to the obsession with black men’s appendages and the trickling along of tired and old racist tropes that white men used to make us seem otherworldly and scary even! Sure, some Black men use the term to describe themselves which I find disappointing but can see why they would feed into this on a site like this. However, the majority of Black men do not take kindly to people assuming that it is OK to reach out and label us as such. It is very unhealthy, almost alarming that people don’t see the racist undertones of this and blissfully go along describing a group of people solely by their cock! For most black men, a couple or single woman using that word indiscriminately provides an insight into just how easily people buy into these things without actually stopping to think about how harmful it is. Thoughts? This is a healthy debate so don’t be afraid to express yourself but do itin a respectful manner.. Lots of us have expressed ourselves in a respectful manner, however you seem to have issues with other opinions if they differ from yours. If I put only looking for BWC on my profile or describe myself as a SWF (short white female) does that also have racist undertones? all I know is I would suck a BBC " I don’t think you’re alone | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis?" Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks " This shit right here. We're OWNED?Always goes back to white people thinking blacks are objects that you own and can do with as you please. Fucked up people on here. | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks This shit right here. We're OWNED?Always goes back to white people thinking blacks are objects that you own and can do with as you please. Fucked up people on here. " Looking at her profile, I don't think she meant that. She uses the word "owned" a lot on her profile, and I haven't a clue what she's on about. | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks " What an awful thing to say ... | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks What an awful thing to say ... " Crikey!! Someone needs a deep breath | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks " What a sweetheart | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks What an awful thing to say ... " But oh so true....not that you'd understand. Being a Man ?? | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks " Such ugly language. Ugh | |||
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"Is it correct to call something that has existed since Fab started a trend?" I was just thinking that this is hardly a recent thing | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks This shit right here. We're OWNED?Always goes back to white people thinking blacks are objects that you own and can do with as you please. Fucked up people on here. Looking at her profile, I don't think she meant that. She uses the word "owned" a lot on her profile, and I haven't a clue what she's on about." I think she meant every word of what she typed | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks This shit right here. We're OWNED?Always goes back to white people thinking blacks are objects that you own and can do with as you please. Fucked up people on here. " Yeah because all white people think like this. Racism at its finest. | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks This shit right here. We're OWNED?Always goes back to white people thinking blacks are objects that you own and can do with as you please. Fucked up people on here. Looking at her profile, I don't think she meant that. She uses the word "owned" a lot on her profile, and I haven't a clue what she's on about. I think she meant every word of what she typed" I sensed a lot of anger. I'm going to guess it's from a bad experience from the topic discussed. It's all fun and games till someone gets hurt or offended... | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks This shit right here. We're OWNED?Always goes back to white people thinking blacks are objects that you own and can do with as you please. Fucked up people on here. Looking at her profile, I don't think she meant that. She uses the word "owned" a lot on her profile, and I haven't a clue what she's on about. I think she meant every word of what she typed" Possibly. I am still trying to translate it. Have you got a couple of hours to read and translate her profile? | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks What an awful thing to say ... But oh so true....not that you'd understand. Being a Man ??" Sexist too lol Did you vote leave ? Lol | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks This shit right here. We're OWNED?Always goes back to white people thinking blacks are objects that you own and can do with as you please. Fucked up people on here. Looking at her profile, I don't think she meant that. She uses the word "owned" a lot on her profile, and I haven't a clue what she's on about. I think she meant every word of what she typed Possibly. I am still trying to translate it. Have you got a couple of hours to read and translate her profile?" I’m lost for words!! First time for everything | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks This shit right here. We're OWNED?Always goes back to white people thinking blacks are objects that you own and can do with as you please. Fucked up people on here. Looking at her profile, I don't think she meant that. She uses the word "owned" a lot on her profile, and I haven't a clue what she's on about. I think she meant every word of what she typed I sensed a lot of anger. I'm going to guess it's from a bad experience from the topic discussed. It's all fun and games till someone gets hurt or offended... " Yet it appears she’s blocked women not men. Interesting. | |||
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"The whole no blacks or Asians comes across as 100% racist your preference maybe a white bloke but does that mean you can’t meet a guy whose black and find him attractive? No but your narrow minded view on the colour of skin stops you from exploring It’s amazing isn’t it? How people absolutely convince themselves of these things just on the basis of subliminal messages they are fed I just wonder why it is not considered racist that black and asian people rarely if at all ask for each other. I never saw it in gay world and from what I am seeing in the straight it is rare there too. Why is this? Lot of focus on why white people are not going for other races and ethnicities yet no focus on non-white groups ignoring each other. Just an observation. Do you mean non white people explicitly stating they've no interest in people of the same ethnicity? Probably because they're so small in number it isn't a necessary observation to make?" No I am referring quite clearly to black and asian not going for eachother, why is this? Seems very rare they do, so am just curious. I grew up in London and now live Manchester, two multi-racial cities but I have not seen it online or in real life | |||
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" No I am referring quite clearly to black and asian not going for eachother, why is this? Seems very rare they do, so am just curious. I grew up in London and now live Manchester, two multi-racial cities but I have not seen it online or in real life ..because they're a minority in an overwhelmingly white population, so are likely to form social, sexual and long term relationships with the people around them, just like you or I. But is that true? I see a lot of black and white couples together gay or straight. Likewise, white and asian couples. But almost never black and asian couples, think at most seen two couples in my whole life. Online I see black and asian asking for their own or white, but not eachother. Why is this? " I've just offered a reason. I'm white, my husband's black. We met at university and at that time non whites were very much in the minority, he socialised with people around him of all ethnicities but the majority were white so he was more likely to establish a relationship with someone of that race, unless he specifically had set out to find a black partner which I know he would have regarded as perverse having been born here, grown up and been influenced predominantly by white culture. | |||
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" No I am referring quite clearly to black and asian not going for eachother, why is this? Seems very rare they do, so am just curious. I grew up in London and now live Manchester, two multi-racial cities but I have not seen it online or in real life ..because they're a minority in an overwhelmingly white population, so are likely to form social, sexual and long term relationships with the people around them, just like you or I. But is that true? I see a lot of black and white couples together gay or straight. Likewise, white and asian couples. But almost never black and asian couples, think at most seen two couples in my whole life. Online I see black and asian asking for their own or white, but not eachother. Why is this? I've just offered a reason. I'm white, my husband's black. We met at university and at that time non whites were very much in the minority, he socialised with people around him of all ethnicities but the majority were white so he was more likely to establish a relationship with someone of that race, unless he specifically had set out to find a black partner which I know he would have regarded as perverse having been born here, grown up and been influenced predominantly by white culture." A*** | |||
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" No I am referring quite clearly to black and asian not going for eachother, why is this? Seems very rare they do, so am just curious. I grew up in London and now live Manchester, two multi-racial cities but I have not seen it online or in real life ..because they're a minority in an overwhelmingly white population, so are likely to form social, sexual and long term relationships with the people around them, just like you or I. But is that true? I see a lot of black and white couples together gay or straight. Likewise, white and asian couples. But almost never black and asian couples, think at most seen two couples in my whole life. Online I see black and asian asking for their own or white, but not eachother. Why is this? I've just offered a reason. I'm white, my husband's black. We met at university and at that time non whites were very much in the minority, he socialised with people around him of all ethnicities but the majority were white so he was more likely to establish a relationship with someone of that race, unless he specifically had set out to find a black partner which I know he would have regarded as perverse having been born here, grown up and been influenced predominantly by white culture." I know large sections of London are black and asian mixed with white minority, as I lived in them for many years. Perfect opportunity for black-asian inter-marriage. But I never saw it. So again I can’t agree with you. Appreciate your answers though not trying to be difficult with you | |||
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" No I am referring quite clearly to black and asian not going for eachother, why is this? Seems very rare they do, so am just curious. I grew up in London and now live Manchester, two multi-racial cities but I have not seen it online or in real life ..because they're a minority in an overwhelmingly white population, so are likely to form social, sexual and long term relationships with the people around them, just like you or I. But is that true? I see a lot of black and white couples together gay or straight. Likewise, white and asian couples. But almost never black and asian couples, think at most seen two couples in my whole life. Online I see black and asian asking for their own or white, but not eachother. Why is this? I've just offered a reason. I'm white, my husband's black. We met at university and at that time non whites were very much in the minority, he socialised with people around him of all ethnicities but the majority were white so he was more likely to establish a relationship with someone of that race, unless he specifically had set out to find a black partner which I know he would have regarded as perverse having been born here, grown up and been influenced predominantly by white culture. I know large sections of London are black and asian mixed with white minority, as I lived in them for many years. Perfect opportunity for black-asian inter-marriage. But I never saw it. So again I can’t agree with you. Appreciate your answers though not trying to be difficult with you " Apologies I caught the wrong end of the stick, I realise now you mean interracial relationships between blacks & Asians! You'll probably find though that a similar argument applies-both ethnicities are exposed to a predominantly white culture | |||
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" No I am referring quite clearly to black and asian not going for eachother, why is this? Seems very rare they do, so am just curious. I grew up in London and now live Manchester, two multi-racial cities but I have not seen it online or in real life ..because they're a minority in an overwhelmingly white population, so are likely to form social, sexual and long term relationships with the people around them, just like you or I. But is that true? I see a lot of black and white couples together gay or straight. Likewise, white and asian couples. But almost never black and asian couples, think at most seen two couples in my whole life. Online I see black and asian asking for their own or white, but not eachother. Why is this? I've just offered a reason. I'm white, my husband's black. We met at university and at that time non whites were very much in the minority, he socialised with people around him of all ethnicities but the majority were white so he was more likely to establish a relationship with someone of that race, unless he specifically had set out to find a black partner which I know he would have regarded as perverse having been born here, grown up and been influenced predominantly by white culture. I know large sections of London are black and asian mixed with white minority, as I lived in them for many years. Perfect opportunity for black-asian inter-marriage. But I never saw it. So again I can’t agree with you. Appreciate your answers though not trying to be difficult with you Apologies I caught the wrong end of the stick, I realise now you mean interracial relationships between blacks & Asians! You'll probably find though that a similar argument applies-both ethnicities are exposed to a predominantly white culture" I would suspect pressure to marry within religious beliefs is always going to be a factor. | |||
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" No I am referring quite clearly to black and asian not going for eachother, why is this? Seems very rare they do, so am just curious. I grew up in London and now live Manchester, two multi-racial cities but I have not seen it online or in real life ..because they're a minority in an overwhelmingly white population, so are likely to form social, sexual and long term relationships with the people around them, just like you or I. But is that true? I see a lot of black and white couples together gay or straight. Likewise, white and asian couples. But almost never black and asian couples, think at most seen two couples in my whole life. Online I see black and asian asking for their own or white, but not eachother. Why is this? I've just offered a reason. I'm white, my husband's black. We met at university and at that time non whites were very much in the minority, he socialised with people around him of all ethnicities but the majority were white so he was more likely to establish a relationship with someone of that race, unless he specifically had set out to find a black partner which I know he would have regarded as perverse having been born here, grown up and been influenced predominantly by white culture. I know large sections of London are black and asian mixed with white minority, as I lived in them for many years. Perfect opportunity for black-asian inter-marriage. But I never saw it. So again I can’t agree with you. Appreciate your answers though not trying to be difficult with you " PS my husband's family are from a Carribbean island and he has fairly close family who look Chinese as many Chinese emigrated to the west indies in the 1900's as cheap labour and were absorbed into the native population, just an example of minorities being influenced by the indigenous culture | |||
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" No I am referring quite clearly to black and asian not going for eachother, why is this? Seems very rare they do, so am just curious. I grew up in London and now live Manchester, two multi-racial cities but I have not seen it online or in real life ..because they're a minority in an overwhelmingly white population, so are likely to form social, sexual and long term relationships with the people around them, just like you or I. But is that true? I see a lot of black and white couples together gay or straight. Likewise, white and asian couples. But almost never black and asian couples, think at most seen two couples in my whole life. Online I see black and asian asking for their own or white, but not eachother. Why is this? I've just offered a reason. I'm white, my husband's black. We met at university and at that time non whites were very much in the minority, he socialised with people around him of all ethnicities but the majority were white so he was more likely to establish a relationship with someone of that race, unless he specifically had set out to find a black partner which I know he would have regarded as perverse having been born here, grown up and been influenced predominantly by white culture. I know large sections of London are black and asian mixed with white minority, as I lived in them for many years. Perfect opportunity for black-asian inter-marriage. But I never saw it. So again I can’t agree with you. Appreciate your answers though not trying to be difficult with you Apologies I caught the wrong end of the stick, I realise now you mean interracial relationships between blacks & Asians! You'll probably find though that a similar argument applies-both ethnicities are exposed to a predominantly white culture" Yes that is exactly what I meant, no worries though. Same argument could apply I guess in parts of Britain white large white majority but not in places like London and Manchester. It just makes you wonder why really? | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis?" Failing to see the connection, he's black and meets couples, he's used black in his username probably because of his skin colour but how is he perpetuating the problem by having pictures of people he meets and having that username. I'm fairly picky about who I meet hence my username. I agree with OP it is a trend and I find it disturbing. | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks What an awful thing to say ... But oh so true....not that you'd understand. Being a Man ?? Sexist too lol Did you vote leave ? Lol Wow lol....child" My thoughts exactly but was saving my breath at the time. So many sanctimonious europhiles on here | |||
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"Are you not perpetuating the problem as you see it by calling yourself black metal and pics looking like a bull with a white couple and showing a large, black penis? Exactly lol. You label yourselves...then your vile egos fucks up the decent women you try your best to hold down while knowing full well your owned by the masses and proud to be of service. Grow up me thinks This shit right here. We're OWNED?Always goes back to white people thinking blacks are objects that you own and can do with as you please. Fucked up people on here. Looking at her profile, I don't think she meant that. She uses the word "owned" a lot on her profile, and I haven't a clue what she's on about. I think she meant every word of what she typed I sensed a lot of anger. I'm going to guess it's from a bad experience from the topic discussed. It's all fun and games till someone gets hurt or offended... Yet it appears she’s blocked women not men. Interesting." I block your circle you fuck hun...afterall most are with someone...but hey...you don't seem to mind. And for the uneducated who simply can't do anything but play that damn race card again...never been a racist in my life and never will be. So keep your manly assumptions with your gangbangers who make this site the gutter it is lol | |||
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