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"Is it just me or is there hardly any TS on this site ...? most claim to be it end up being a CD/TV. oh and CD is the same for TV right... just a different letters,going from how it is on fab" I think TV's take it a bit more seriously than CD's. | |||
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"Cross dresser. Likes dressing up Transexual usually wishing to get gender surgery (but not always) Transvestite not wishing to get gender surgery (but not always) Or this is my understanding of it. Correct me if I'm wrong " Yes, for me the following; Crossdressing, wearing the clothing of the opposite sex, male or female. Not necessarily wanting to look like the opposite sex. Transvestite, tries to look as convincing as possible as the opposite sex, no interest in changing sex. Transexual, born in the wrong body, doesn't in all cases transition. | |||
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"Is it just me or is there hardly any TS on this site ...? most claim to be it end up being a CD/TV. oh and CD is the same for TV right... just a different letters,going from how it is on fab" Often you can tell the difference from their clothes and hair. In my experience, TV's and CD's dress up like a saucy 1970's barmaid / prostitute. Whereas genuine transsexuals dress like a normal person from the sex they identify as. They're not in it for the nylon fetish or whatever. | |||
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"So is this right? TV lives their life full time as a female, but without the op? CD - just for fun? TS - had the full op?" No, tv's are still usually part time. | |||
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" Often you can tell the difference from their clothes and hair. In my experience, TV's and CD's dress up like a saucy 1970's barmaid / prostitute. Whereas genuine transsexuals dress like a normal person from the sex they identify as. They're not in it for the nylon fetish or whatever. " 
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"Is it just me or is there hardly any TS on this site ...? most claim to be it end up being a CD/TV. oh and CD is the same for TV right... just a different letters,going from how it is on fab Often you can tell the difference from their clothes and hair. In my experience, TV's and CD's dress up like a saucy 1970's barmaid / prostitute. Whereas genuine transsexuals dress like a normal person from the sex they identify as. They're not in it for the nylon fetish or whatever. " I'd take offence, if I didn't actually enjoy dressing like a 70s barmaid | |||
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"So is this right? TV lives their life full time as a female, but without the op? CD - just for fun? TS - had the full op?" more or less right | |||
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"Is it just me or is there hardly any TS on this site ...? most claim to be it end up being a CD/TV. oh and CD is the same for TV right... just a different letters,going from how it is on fab Often you can tell the difference from their clothes and hair. In my experience, TV's and CD's dress up like a saucy 1970's barmaid / prostitute. Whereas genuine transsexuals dress like a normal person from the sex they identify as. They're not in it for the nylon fetish or whatever. " That's such a judgemental statement, hardly going to display photos on here of clothes we wear during our working day are we. | |||
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" Often you can tell the difference from their clothes and hair. In my experience, TV's and CD's dress up like a saucy 1970's barmaid / prostitute. Whereas genuine transsexuals dress like a normal person from the sex they identify as. They're not in it for the nylon fetish or whatever. " Not that simple, I have met some TVs who hardly ever go out, but who look totally convincing as female. As for clothing it depends on the situation, if I am meeting friends in a pub, my choice of clothes is very different to when I am meeting in private. | |||
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"Often you can tell the difference from their clothes and hair. In my experience, TV's and CD's dress up like a saucy 1970's barmaid / prostitute. Whereas genuine transsexuals dress like a normal person from the sex they identify as. They're not in it for the nylon fetish or whatever. " Lols. I call myself a tgirl as for me it goes a lot deeper than just what clothes I wear. I am though to all intents a transvestite, as I have no intention of taking hormones or having surgery. I don't even care if people call me he or she. Telling the difference by what clothes people wear though ... if I'm going to work or visiting my mother then I'll wear something "normal". If I'm going out dancing or on a date then I'll be wearing something hot. I don't think it tells anyone anything about how I self identify. | |||
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" Often you can tell the difference from their clothes and hair. In my experience, TV's and CD's dress up like a saucy 1970's barmaid / prostitute. Whereas genuine transsexuals dress like a normal person from the sex they identify as. They're not in it for the nylon fetish or whatever. Not that simple, I have met some TVs who hardly ever go out, but who look totally convincing as female. As for clothing it depends on the situation, if I am meeting friends in a pub, my choice of clothes is very different to when I am meeting in private. " I'm not ts. I go out all over both day and night. I dress normally as any female would. I do also dress sexy for nights out. I'm not in this as purely fetish. I want to look the part. I feel the part so you cannot put all tvs into one perspective. We are all different. | |||
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"Is it just me or is there hardly any TS on this site ...? most claim to be it end up being a CD/TV. oh and CD is the same for TV right... just a different letters,going from how it is on fab" Anyway OP. Even a term like TS can cover quite a spectrum of people, and their definition of it might not tally with yours. | |||
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"Hardly 70s barmaid, we dress sexy and some dresses cost the earth and our clothes and makeup are top notch, always complimented on our dress sense and style." Yes but you're not dressing up as women though. Imo. Much for fetish. | |||
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"There have been endless forum threads on this subject where trans Fabbers have taken time to explain the differences. As the partner of a TV it makes me literally shake my head in disbelief at some of the misguided misconceptions that still exist on this site. 1970’s barmaid/PROSTITUTE....really??? " Yes. Exactly that. | |||
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"Have a look at Rachael xx, then compare her to the TV's, you'll understand then. "  Why would you even post that comment??
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"There have been endless forum threads on this subject where trans Fabbers have taken time to explain the differences. As the partner of a TV it makes me literally shake my head in disbelief at some of the misguided misconceptions that still exist on this site. 1970’s barmaid/PROSTITUTE....really??? Yes. Exactly that. " rubbish | |||
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"Have a look at Rachael xx, then compare her to the TV's, you'll understand then. Why would you even post that comment??
Well out of order!" | |||
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"You'd have been bettwr googling the answer. Plenty of resources out there to explain the differences and the nuances within each category " Exactly what I done lol | |||
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"There have been endless forum threads on this subject where trans Fabbers have taken time to explain the differences. As the partner of a TV it makes me literally shake my head in disbelief at some of the misguided misconceptions that still exist on this site. 1970’s barmaid/PROSTITUTE....really??? Yes. Exactly that. " I take what Clem said as a joke. A cruel joke but it's fine. | |||
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"Grrr noticed my post is full of typos again. I’m distracted " I got distracted by your socks lol.  | |||
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"Anyway back to Ops question, clearly it makes it very clear some guys don't put any effort into looking or reading profiles properly as there are lots on here. "
The options for ticking boxes here when setting up a profile are very limited.
Which is fine, that doesn't bother me but anyone who chooses meets based on a few limited search terms, rather than reading a profile and getting to know someone a bit before deciding to meet, only have themselves to blame imo. | |||
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"There have been endless forum threads on this subject where trans Fabbers have taken time to explain the differences. As the partner of a TV it makes me literally shake my head in disbelief at some of the misguided misconceptions that still exist on this site. 1970’s barmaid/PROSTITUTE....really??? Yes. Exactly that. I take what Clem said as a joke. A cruel joke but it's fine. "Maybe but to follow it up with his comment about someone else’s profile, not only that but naming them? That’s cruel  | |||
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"Dunno what I am but I know I love it x" And that’s all that matters. Why do people want to label? One size does not fit all. How boring life would be x | |||
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"There have been endless forum threads on this subject where trans Fabbers have taken time to explain the differences. As the partner of a TV it makes me literally shake my head in disbelief at some of the misguided misconceptions that still exist on this site. 1970’s barmaid/PROSTITUTE....really??? Yes. Exactly that. I take what Clem said as a joke. A cruel joke but it's fine.
Maybe but to follow it up with his comment about someone else’s profile, not only that but naming them? That’s cruel "How is it cruel? She looks amazing, and completely not 1970's barmaid!!! | |||
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"Have a look at Rachael xx, then compare her to the TV's, you'll understand then. Why would you even post that comment??
Well out of order!"Oh get a grip ffs | |||
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"from the header i thought this was gonna be about who would win in a fight between them all.." I think that's a new game coming out for the Playstation 5... | |||
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"Stepping away from the previous arguments, in my opinion, I would say a TS is someone who was born in the wrong body. They may or may not surgically transition but I don't think they would necessarily have a sexual motive for doing so,and as such would probably not automatically gravitate to this site?" Isn't that conflating gender identity with sexuality though | |||
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"from the header i thought this was gonna be about who would win in a fight between them all.. I think that's a new game coming out for the Playstation 5..."
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"from the header i thought this was gonna be about who would win in a fight between them all.. I think that's a new game coming out for the Playstation 5...
bonus points for pulling a trannies wig off "*Fetches the superglue* | |||
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"Stepping away from the previous arguments, in my opinion, I would say a TS is someone who was born in the wrong body. They may or may not surgically transition but I don't think they would necessarily have a sexual motive for doing so,and as such would probably not automatically gravitate to this site? Isn't that conflating gender identity with sexuality though" No,that's the point I'm trying to make ,maybe it didn't come across as such | |||
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"Have a look at Rachael xx, then compare her to the TV's, you'll understand then. Why would you even post that comment??
Well out of order!
Oh get a grip ffs "You obviously haven’t got a clue as to what I’m referring to but thank you for that mature response.  | |||
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"Is it just me or is there hardly any TS on this site ...? most claim to be it end up being a CD/TV. oh and CD is the same for TV right... just a different letters,going from how it is on fab I think TV's take it a bit more seriously than CD's." Cd is a man playing at it Tv is a more feminine person They may have shaved their legs It’s a lifestyle choice | |||
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"So im a full op ts but i class myself as a women you wouldnt notice me in a crowd " beautiful. Not a hint of the aforementioned... | |||
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"from the header i thought this was gonna be about who would win in a fight between them all.." | |||
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"So much misinformation and outright rudeness in this thread , sad to see. The real answer is of course that you cannot pigeonhole people into just three categories. It's a spectrum. In fact many spectrums that overlap. And every girl has different reasons, motivations, start points and end goals and restrictions. And they can change at any time. As soon as everyone realises that how a genetic female and a generic male should look and act and love are all artificial products of society that don't actually exist , the sooner everyone can get on with it without hate and prejudice. " | |||
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"So is this right? TS - had the full op?" No, that would be Transgender TG | |||
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I am gender fluid, obviously most of my pics are horny/slutty outfits as are most womens profiles... but i pass very well as a female.... Stick me in whatever box you want... | |||
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"After being on fab for a while I have found an interest into trans/cd. I am highly attracted to the dress code which really turns me in. I know there’s a lot of question about straight guys and trans. And to be honest I have been sucked by trans/cd and enjoyed it and also have sucked a dick before to experience . I have the urge to touch but can only do this with trans. Does this mean I’m not straight? I’m really consider and question myself. Some advice will be great. " Not too sure that dress code you refer to? Some TVs dress quite outrageously, others are very toned down and dress like normal everyday women And I'm sorry to break it to you but you're definitely not straight! | |||
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I'm always happy to talk with anyone who has a genuine interest... Polly xx | |||
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"I just mean like l heels and stockings, all then trans I have seen are just dressed sexy. The strange thing is I get mad excited over trans, but have not gone all the way. Mainly just receive. Does this mean I’m bi? " You might want to change your profile to reflect your interest then. | |||
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"I tend to refer to myself as a trans woman. No hormones, no surgery, no intention. Not even full time female. But definitely not just a casual crossdresser doing it as a kink. I think the real distinction lies within the brain/mind/ego/id/self-identity/soul - call it what you will. For me, being female feels natural, being male feels awkward. I have worked extensively with trans support organisations in the past, where although there are no hard and fast fixed definitions of terms, there is some level of general concordance that: TG = trans gender = umbrella term covering all who to a greater or lesser extent have gender variant identity. TS = trans sexual = those who are somewhere along the medical/legal pathway of gender transition. This may include some or all of hormone treatment, a range of different surgical procedures, legal name change, full time living in the preferred gender, public declaration of identity, legal acknowledgement of gender. TV = trans vestite = literally a person who wears clothing of the opposite gender. Much the same as CD = cross dresser, although some regard these as slightly different stages of intention and gender identity. There is no common agreement which of these is the "more trans". As well as these, we also have BiG = bi gendered (sometimes male identifying, sometimes female); GF = gender fluid (not identifying wholely as male or female, but some changing proportion of both); NG = non gendered, stepping outside the whole male/female dichotomy; QG = queer gendered, neither male nor female but "other". And other terms continually coming in and out of fashion. Hope this lot helps somebody! And if you see me at a club or social and would like to discuss any of this stuff, come over and say hi I'm always happy to talk with anyone who has a genuine interest... Polly xx"Good summary Polly - I refer to myself as a TV with no desire or need to seek gender transition. For me I'm either fully male in presentation or fully female in presentation and never mix the two. I'm happy with either so lucky in that respect, many are not and pursue the difficult pathway to full transition if they can.
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" Nice to see the OP is taking active interest in his thread "I suspect it was just a frustrated rant triggered by the fact that we don't all fit into convenient compartments. Perhaps we'll never know though | |||
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" Nice to see the OP is taking active interest in his thread
I suspect it was just a frustrated rant triggered by the fact that we don't all fit into convenient compartments.
Perhaps we'll never know though "Nah..it's just a troll to see us quarreling among ourselves. Happened so many times before. | |||
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"Agreed -it'd be good if there was the option so we could begin to differentiate... As I'm also another CD!!" On balance different options would possibly useful, however there is a risk they could be misleading- for example some might assume anybody who describes themself as TS will look like somebody in a Trans porn film. | |||
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"Agreed -it'd be good if there was the option so we could begin to differentiate... As I'm also another CD!! On balance different options would possibly useful, however there is a risk they could be misleading- for example some might assume anybody who describes themself as TS will look like somebody in a Trans porn film." The trouble with the present format it covers everything from a docker in a frock to a stunner. | |||
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"Agreed -it'd be good if there was the option so we could begin to differentiate... As I'm also another CD!! On balance different options would possibly useful, however there is a risk they could be misleading- for example some might assume anybody who describes themself as TS will look like somebody in a Trans porn film." fantasy and real life two very different scenarios | |||
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" The trouble with the present format it covers everything from a docker in a frock to a stunner. "Although that would also apply to separate TV, CD and TS categories. There is not necessarily a direct correlation between how good people look in a dress and where they are on the spectrum. | |||
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" The trouble with the present format it covers everything from a docker in a frock to a stunner.
Although that would also apply to separate TV, CD and TS categories. There is not necessarily a direct correlation between how good people look in a dress and where they are on the spectrum."Agreed some post op transgenders look awful too. | |||
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" The trouble with the present format it covers everything from a docker in a frock to a stunner.
Although that would also apply to separate TV, CD and TS categories. There is not necessarily a direct correlation between how good people look in a dress and where they are on the spectrum.
Agreed some post op transgenders look awful too."Which are you? | |||
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" The trouble with the present format it covers everything from a docker in a frock to a stunner.
Although that would also apply to separate TV, CD and TS categories. There is not necessarily a direct correlation between how good people look in a dress and where they are on the spectrum."Are we seriously judging people's place in the pecking order by their looks? Some of the ugliest people I have met may well have been the most superficially beautiful. | |||
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