FabSwingers.com forum: Fab Straight

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So I'm down on my profile as Straight... However I have had many many encounters that could be classed as "bi" or even "gay" in some circles... I just hate the labels and boxes people want to put you in.

I consider myself Straight but I'm also a horny devil that loves all forms of sex. Never kissed, wanked or sucked a man before as that's not my thing, however hubby's have been perfect fluffers, guided me into wife, hubby's have cleaned up Cum and various other "Cuck" type situations.

Apart from now, I usually disclose this information upon potentially meeting with Bi-Curious couples.

What are people's issue with being "Fab Straight"

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By *issyfaggotfayeTV/TS
over a year ago

Bolton

If you can't admit it to yourself, enough to display on your profile that you're at least bicurious, then you ain't fucking my pussy .......is a typical trans response

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm not sure why you need to define yourself.

I'm bisexual but sometimes only fancy men, other times only women.

It doesn't make me not bisexual.

Just enjoy what goes on in the moment.

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"So I'm down on my profile as Straight... However I have had many many encounters that could be classed as "bi" or even "gay" in some circles... I just hate the labels and boxes people want to put you in.

Apart from now, I usually disclose this information upon potentially meeting with Bi-Curious couples.

What are people's issue with being "Fab Straight""

Are you in denial?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i 100% get you! im a dirty bastard too lol.

especially in the cuckold lifestyle, its a dominant thing and the fact that turns a wife on is great

you are not bi or gay your a dirty kinky bastard. welcome down here anytime my friend!

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"i 100% get you! im a dirty bastard too lol.

especially in the cuckold lifestyle, its a dominant thing and the fact that turns a wife on is great

you are not bi or gay your a dirty kinky bastard. welcome down here anytime my friend!

Hey don’t hold back will you? Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Apart from now, I usually disclose this information upon potentially meeting with Bi-Curious couples.

What are people's issue with being "Fab Straight"

Are you in denial? "

No far from denial, just not easily boxed. I make my own box and place myself in it. Lol.

On a serious note, I think I've been quite honest and forthcoming so denial would be the wrong word as I've admitted it to n my OP and if ever I'm playing with couples.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"i 100% get you! im a dirty bastard too lol.

especially in the cuckold lifestyle, its a dominant thing and the fact that turns a wife on is great

you are not bi or gay your a dirty kinky bastard. welcome down here anytime my friend!

Hey don’t hold back will you? Lol "

Jheeze I thought the same thing. Full steam ahead and say it how it is. Lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I'm not sure why you need to define yourself.

I'm bisexual but sometimes only fancy men, other times only women.

It doesn't make me not bisexual.

Just enjoy what goes on in the moment."

Exactly that... Well said, I agree with that completely

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't have an issue with it...

My OH is bi and on our profile we state we're specifically looking for bi men, women and couples.

If they're not listed as bi or bi curious, we tend to not message back. We get too many messages from straight guys who just wanna fuck me. Not what we're into.

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

The perennial problem OP....you like to "go with the flow" and don't like to be pigeon holed which is absolutely fine in real life, but this is the internet. Your profile reads as 100% straight which will be a no go for many people who are bi or curious.

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By *hoot45Man
over a year ago

Ramsgate

I think it’s up to the individual to decide if they want to say if they are bi curious or bi but it does get a bit complicated if you’re not sure whether to contact a straight guy who has looked at your profile. Maybe better to wait for a wink or a message.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

One of my pet hates is when people can't own their sexuality. It's enough to put me off.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I don't have an issue with it...

My OH is bi and on our profile we state we're specifically looking for bi men, women and couples.

If they're not listed as bi or bi curious, we tend to not message back. We get too many messages from straight guys who just wanna fuck me. Not what we're into.

I never message or wink anyone who has Bi/Bi-Curious, I've never initiated anything like that and respect what others are looking for.

I get couples messaging me all the time (hubby claiming he's straight) or openly bi, and I respond accordingly. If I like them and we start talking then, they usually ask if I've played this way before, in which I will state my boundaries.

However I've never actively gone searching for bi/gay singles or couples.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"The perennial problem OP....you like to "go with the flow" and don't like to be pigeon holed which is absolutely fine in real life, but this is the internet. Your profile reads as 100% straight which will be a no go for many people who are bi or curious."

I get that and it's absolutely fine by me. Like I said it's usually bi singles or couples that message me, and I simply respond accordingly.

So the question then becomes. Why do Bi/Gay go for Straight men???

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I don't care what label anyone attaches to their profile.

I'm just pleased to have their attention lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"One of my pet hates is when people can't own their sexuality. It's enough to put me off."

I'm more than comfortable with my sexuality and definitely do "own it" as stated in the OP. I have nothing to hide at all...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you should just put bicurious which essentially you are. Yes some people don’t like being labelled but you have to be honest as on the other hand there are genuine straight men that may not feel comfortable in a MMF with your tendencies, or women that do not like the idea. I still get women and even straight couples messaging so it is not going to kill your chances with everyone

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By *lik and PaulCouple
over a year ago

cahoots

I get that and it's absolutely fine by me. Like I said it's usually bi singles or couples that message me, and I simply respond accordingly.

So the question then becomes. Why do Bi/Gay go for Straight men???"

Possibly because, it would seem, a lot of bi guys put straight on their profile. I see a lot of posts where people don't like labels but they really do help as long ad people are honest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this is one of the biggest problems in the world. We all need to label ourselves and each other.

And more labels are being added all the time. More labels only allow more ways for us to separate ourselves from others.

Imagine if all the groups that are fighting for rights for their own group got together, formed one big group. Their aim, rights for everyone. They would be unstoppable.

It's the same old story, divide and conquer.

Sorry for going off on a bit of a tangent.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

I prefer guys that are at least bi playful, as it gives me for more exciting opportunities to share with them.

Your profile so you must do what you want with it, but just because you don't want to have a relationship with a man doesn't make you straight, but why worry about it anyway.

If you are concerned about changing away from straight, and your profile is bringing you what you want it to, leave it as it is. Nobody is going to suit everybody, just suit yourself.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think you should just put bicurious which essentially you are. Yes some people don’t like being labelled but you have to be honest as on the other hand there are genuine straight men that may not feel comfortable in a MMF with your tendencies, or women that do not like the idea. I still get women and even straight couples messaging so it is not going to kill your chances with everyone

Yeah fully get that and like I said I've had "Bi-Curious" profiles before. However the attention I was getting was not what I was looking for.

Like I've also stated I only ever seek single women or straight mmf couples, I never message anyone who is looking for "Bi" men.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think this is one of the biggest problems in the world. We all need to label ourselves and each other.

And more labels are being added all the time. More labels only allow more ways for us to separate ourselves from others.

Imagine if all the groups that are fighting for rights for their own group got together, formed one big group. Their aim, rights for everyone. They would be unstoppable.

It's the same old story, divide and conquer.

Sorry for going off on a bit of a tangent."

Here Here...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I prefer guys that are at least bi playful, as it gives me for more exciting opportunities to share with them.

Your profile so you must do what you want with it, but just because you don't want to have a relationship with a man doesn't make you straight, but why worry about it anyway.

If you are concerned about changing away from straight, and your profile is bringing you what you want it to, leave it as it is. Nobody is going to suit everybody, just suit yourself. "

"Bi-Playful" I like that... (Admin need to make that a category. Lol)

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

By putting straight on your profile you are lying to others and taking away their choice. Some choose to meet bi guys, so you would be ruling that out too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think peoples issues with it stem from the fact that they are very insecure themselves.

The fact that “fab straight” is used as an insult/derogatory term says a lot about the people who say it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think peoples issues with it stem from the fact that they are very insecure themselves.

The fact that “fab straight” is used as an insult/derogatory term says a lot about the people who say it."

Aye! I'm straight straight, but the shit bi, or fab straight men get on here is quite disappointing given how open minded people claim to be.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"By putting straight on your profile you are lying to others and taking away their choice. Some choose to meet bi guys, so you would be ruling that out too."

So this is sort of my point... I don't meet with people because they're, "Straight, Bi, Gay" or whatever other label with have in society now... I meet with people because they're nice, and I fancy them and they fancy Me, I meet with people who send nice open honest messages (with a pic. Lol).

So are you saying if I put "Bi-Curious" in my profile it means I get the option to be able to play with everyone, that's what the majority of "single" men do to better their chances I think. However I don't wanna meet "everyone" and I want my sexual status, skin colour or any other box people have got, to be the reason why I message or meet someone or vice versa...

I hope that makes sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think peoples issues with it stem from the fact that they are very insecure themselves.

The fact that “fab straight” is used as an insult/derogatory term says a lot about the people who say it.

Aye! I'm straight straight, but the shit bi, or fab straight men get on here is quite disappointing given how open minded people claim to be."

Then unblock me so I can stare at your bum photo haha

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I think peoples issues with it stem from the fact that they are very insecure themselves.

The fact that “fab straight” is used as an insult/derogatory term says a lot about the people who say it."

That's sort of the jist behind my OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think peoples issues with it stem from the fact that they are very insecure themselves.

The fact that “fab straight” is used as an insult/derogatory term says a lot about the people who say it.

Aye! I'm straight straight, but the shit bi, or fab straight men get on here is quite disappointing given how open minded people claim to be.

Then unblock me so I can stare at your bum photo haha

"
hold on cheeky

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think peoples issues with it stem from the fact that they are very insecure themselves.

The fact that “fab straight” is used as an insult/derogatory term says a lot about the people who say it.

Aye! I'm straight straight, but the shit bi, or fab straight men get on here is quite disappointing given how open minded people claim to be.

Then unblock me so I can stare at your bum photo haha

hold on cheeky"

My hero

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't have an issue with it...

My OH is bi and on our profile we state we're specifically looking for bi men, women and couples.

If they're not listed as bi or bi curious, we tend to not message back. We get too many messages from straight guys who just wanna fuck me. Not what we're into.

Totally agree. We rarely reply to straight profiles and often don't even read the message..

The problem we've found with "fab straight" is as you say to Fuck Mrs MP and there is very little mm interaction.

The worst are messages that say they don't mind being sucked. Well breaking news, as I bi guy I like to be sucked too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think peoples issues with it stem from the fact that they are very insecure themselves.

The fact that “fab straight” is used as an insult/derogatory term says a lot about the people who say it."

I say it because I’m inundated with “I’d like to fuck you” messages from people that treat me like a dirty little secret. Guys that either can’t get a date with a woman on here or hide the fact they like Tgirls so as not to put them off. Always seems strange to me as I’ve played with more women, as a Tgirl, than they have. The other one I get is “I’m not an admirer here but I’m on Fabguys with “X” veris from guys and TVs.” I honestly feel more sorry for the genuine girls on here who think they’re getting Mr Straight when they really aren’t.

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By *lice AgainTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

"I think peoples issues with it stem from the fact that they are very insecure themselves.

The fact that “fab straight” is used as an insult/derogatory term says a lot about the people who say it.

At the risk of starting a 'metoo' revolution...

I get this all the time. I even give the 'are you sure you're up for fucking a man' question before a potential meet.

The answer is very often 'yes, as long as you dress sexy'

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't have an issue with it...

My OH is bi and on our profile we state we're specifically looking for bi men, women and couples.

If they're not listed as bi or bi curious, we tend to not message back. We get too many messages from straight guys who just wanna fuck me. Not what we're into.

Totally agree. We rarely reply to straight profiles and often don't even read the message..

The problem we've found with "fab straight" is as you say to Fuck Mrs MP and there is very little mm interaction.

The worst are messages that say they don't mind being sucked. Well breaking news, as I bi guy I like to be sucked too "

bingo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think peoples issues with it stem from the fact that they are very insecure themselves.

The fact that “fab straight” is used as an insult/derogatory term says a lot about the people who say it.

At the risk of starting a 'metoo' revolution...

I get this all the time. I even give the 'are you sure you're up for fucking a man' question before a potential meet.

The answer is very often 'yes, as long as you dress sexy'

I get that even straight guys might fancy us as a kink. I mean, that’s the idea, some of us try and look as feminine as possible. What irks me is that they pretend we’re not on their playlist. Basically a poor substitute when the genuine girls won’t play. It’s the abuse I get with a polite “not interested thanks because you’re not an admirer” as I’m supposed to accept their issues as an excuse for why they can’t admit it in their profile. Give me a break. There are enough ardent, hot admirers on Fab who treat us properly to avoid having to deal with them.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I get more messages from "Straight" married husbands (wife is away), or gay bi men and an abundance of ts/tv/cd looking for straight men.

Is this not seen as the same "deception", why would you want a straight man if you're gay or married?

Also can you change your preferences or are you suggesting that once you declare you're straight then that's it, if you even so much as look at the same sex then you're Fab-Straight???

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By *rx1Couple
over a year ago

North Devon-ish

The whole site is a bit of a gamble 'Bi Playful' would be a good box to tick for those that are somewhere in the middle

It does make us smile when someone ticks the "Straight box" professes to be 100% 'Straight' and asks other men not to message them (which they could easily block) but has 2-3 'Meeting' verifications from TV's..

All very strange, but we ain't judging anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole site is a bit of a gamble 'Bi Playful' would be a good box to tick for those that are somewhere in the middle

All very strange, but we ain't judging anyone"

My thoughts exactly, I think they are just in deep denial about their homosexual tendencies.

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

Labels aren't they wonderful, well guess what no one can be guaranteed not to have had sex with a bi guy including the couples that only play straight.

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By *roubleInMindCouple
over a year ago

Greater Manchester

We’re happy to be approached by people with straight in their profile, I guess on the understanding that our profile clearly states we’re bi and only looking for bi play. If you don’t want to identify as bi, well that’s their choice.

We probably wouldn’t message a ‘straight’ person unsolicited just on the basis that we’re probably not their bag.

I do find it crazy though when we get a message saying ‘loved your profile etc.’ But as soon as we mention we’re only looking for bi play they clutch their pearls and protest their straightness. It’s all in the profile guys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think peoples issues with it stem from the fact that they are very insecure themselves.

The fact that “fab straight” is used as an insult/derogatory term says a lot about the people who say it."

I think the sexuality tick should be deleted off profiles. It causes too many issues. The 'Looking for' ticks cover it.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman
over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

No issues with it.

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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

Have no issue with Fab straight, bi, bi curious or gay but if they wanted to meet us then it is on the understanding that males play straight.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

I think people just like cards on the table, especially when you may be sharing something very intimate. We all like a level playing field and thus decitfulness is not an attractive trait. Far better if someone is open and honest, even if its simply to sat their not too sure about their sexuality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole site is a bit of a gamble 'Bi Playful' would be a good box to tick for those that are somewhere in the middle

All very strange, but we ain't judging anyone

My thoughts exactly, I think they are just in deep denial about their homosexual tendencies. "

Yet your last sentence seems quite judgemental..

I don't want to be inundated with messages from men. I do find some transition profiles attractive.. Yet feel predominantly heterosexual the majority of the time.

If I put what I wanted as my sexuality, you'd be branding me with your incorrect theory.

I'm not in denial, deep or otherwise, nor was I when I was fabstraight.

It's my business, who I choose to fuck, nobody else's. What I choose to share on here with a bunch of judgemental strangers is up to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole site is a bit of a gamble 'Bi Playful' would be a good box to tick for those that are somewhere in the middle

All very strange, but we ain't judging anyone

My thoughts exactly, I think they are just in deep denial about their homosexual tendencies.

Yet your last sentence seems quite judgemental..

I don't want to be inundated with messages from men. I do find some transition profiles attractive.. Yet feel predominantly heterosexual the majority of the time.

If I put what I wanted as my sexuality, you'd be branding me with your incorrect theory.

I'm not in denial, deep or otherwise, nor was I when I was fabstraight.

It's my business, who I choose to fuck, nobody else's. What I choose to share on here with a bunch of judgemental strangers is up to me."

This is another reason why I don't like the sexuality tick. People assume because someone is bi, they'll definitely fuck the same sex. It's annoying.

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan
over a year ago

Coventry

"The whole site is a bit of a gamble 'Bi Playful' would be a good box to tick for those that are somewhere in the middle

All very strange, but we ain't judging anyone

My thoughts exactly, I think they are just in deep denial about their homosexual tendencies.

Yet your last sentence seems quite judgemental..

I don't want to be inundated with messages from men. I do find some transition profiles attractive.. Yet feel predominantly heterosexual the majority of the time.

If I put what I wanted as my sexuality, you'd be branding me with your incorrect theory.

I'm not in denial, deep or otherwise, nor was I when I was fabstraight.

It's my business, who I choose to fuck, nobody else's. What I choose to share on here with a bunch of judgemental strangers is up to me.

This is another reason why I don't like the sexuality tick. People assume because someone is bi, they'll definitely fuck the same sex. It's annoying. "

That's understandable. Attraction is a attraction, it's the same for all sexuality. Your either attached or your not, simple. To be fair it's not the tick boxes fault, that's there to help us narrow down what we've looking for. It's the fault of the narrow minded assumptions people make.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole site is a bit of a gamble 'Bi Playful' would be a good box to tick for those that are somewhere in the middle

All very strange, but we ain't judging anyone

My thoughts exactly, I think they are just in deep denial about their homosexual tendencies.

Yet your last sentence seems quite judgemental..

I don't want to be inundated with messages from men. I do find some transition profiles attractive.. Yet feel predominantly heterosexual the majority of the time.

If I put what I wanted as my sexuality, you'd be branding me with your incorrect theory.

I'm not in denial, deep or otherwise, nor was I when I was fabstraight.

It's my business, who I choose to fuck, nobody else's. What I choose to share on here with a bunch of judgemental strangers is up to me.

This is another reason why I don't like the sexuality tick. People assume because someone is bi, they'll definitely fuck the same sex. It's annoying. "

I'm only getting a taste of what other sex objects (women) and get on an hourly basis. So I can't grumble too much, but yes it's annoying that people assume a lot about someone they've never met or bothered asking to find out.

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By *hoot45Man
over a year ago

Ramsgate

"The whole site is a bit of a gamble 'Bi Playful' would be a good box to tick for those that are somewhere in the middle

All very strange, but we ain't judging anyone

My thoughts exactly, I think they are just in deep denial about their homosexual tendencies. "

Well if guys say they are bi curious and have had lots of meets with guys then perhaps curious is misleading. How many men do you have to meet to satisfy your curiosity? However it’s up to the individual to decide how.they want to describe themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole site is a bit of a gamble 'Bi Playful' would be a good box to tick for those that are somewhere in the middle

All very strange, but we ain't judging anyone

My thoughts exactly, I think they are just in deep denial about their homosexual tendencies.

Yet your last sentence seems quite judgemental..

I don't want to be inundated with messages from men. I do find some transition profiles attractive.. Yet feel predominantly heterosexual the majority of the time.

If I put what I wanted as my sexuality, you'd be branding me with your incorrect theory.

I'm not in denial, deep or otherwise, nor was I when I was fabstraight.

It's my business, who I choose to fuck, nobody else's. What I choose to share on here with a bunch of judgemental strangers is up to me."

"The whole site is a bit of a gamble 'Bi Playful' would be a good box to tick for those that are somewhere in the middle

All very strange, but we ain't judging anyone

My thoughts exactly, I think they are just in deep denial about their homosexual tendencies.

Yet your last sentence seems quite judgemental..

I don't want to be inundated with messages from men. I do find some transition profiles attractive.. Yet feel predominantly heterosexual the majority of the time.

If I put what I wanted as my sexuality, you'd be branding me with your incorrect theory.

I'm not in denial, deep or otherwise, nor was I when I was fabstraight.

It's my business, who I choose to fuck, nobody else's. What I choose to share on here with a bunch of judgemental strangers is up to me."

I think you should re-read what was written and what I was responding to before getting so emotional

We were both referring to TV, not TS.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole site is a bit of a gamble 'Bi Playful' would be a good box to tick for those that are somewhere in the middle

All very strange, but we ain't judging anyone

My thoughts exactly, I think they are just in deep denial about their homosexual tendencies.

Agree although they could be coming from the other side like me - more gay but bicurious for women

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By *r and Mrs A HornyCouple
over a year ago

coventry

A way I got explained once is labels are there to be displayed but once you got it that new shirt on you don’t need to show everyone the label. You can have a £300 or £3 know one cares but normally you do.

I don’t see myself as bi as I don’t want a cock up my bum. But I love pegging, happily wank a guy off to help the moment if we invite a bi guy to play. Sexual it’s to labelled these days. Sex is fun. Do like the Romans’ did just have sexual experience that are hot.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

People who make a song and dance about it are in denial!

We're on a site seeking sexual experiences with LIKEMINDED people. In my relationship we are sexually equal. On Fab I seek sexually submissive men.

I'm not going to deny that side of my sexuality just to get more meets.

You need to "label" yourself to attract playmates.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People who make a song and dance about it are in denial!

We're on a site seeking sexual experiences with LIKEMINDED people. In my relationship we are sexually equal. On Fab I seek sexually submissive men.

I'm not going to deny that side of my sexuality just to get more meets.

You need to "label" yourself to attract playmates. "

Agree 100%

I am not in denial in my profile or bullshitting about anything. I find deceit to get sex a low thing to do, would hate to get someone in bed based on a lie.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

We are not Bi curious nor are we fully bisexual so neither of the two FAB labels fit us. However, if all are comfortable, we are not opposed to (sometimes enjoy) a little Bi playing in an MMF or foursome. (FAB straight? Maybe LOL) Mrs is quite fond of some sexy FF kissing and Mr is fine with a little MM cock play (including Oral) but that is all. We must emphasise that it would be only in a MMF or foursome and on most occasions we play straight. We have no interest in separate MM or FF meets.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you. "

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you. "

Seems like I learn a new thing on fab every day..

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By *tephTV67TV/TS
over a year ago

Cheshire

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

I like that, it explains your preferences perfectly, shame the majority won't read your profile

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you. "

NO! We've actually taken the time to spell out EXACTLY what we like. Rather than relying on a couple of poxy labels.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

NO! We've actually taken the time to spell out EXACTLY what we like. Rather than relying on a couple of poxy labels."

I was teasing. When I spell out exactly what I want. Nobody talks to me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They should just put “open minded” as an option

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

Don't tell me how to react. Man, woman, TV, TS, couple.. Does it matter which person (who you still don't know) you pick on to call deluded and in denial?

It's not just you either. Others are saying same thing. All the time. Every day.

So quick to judge others and label, so quick to assume.

Be it who we sleep with, how many, how often, how we define ourselves, how you define it..

Just live and let live man!

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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago

leeds

For those who don't like labels try doing a supermarket shop or buying a tin of paint where nothing is labeled.

Labels aren't designed for you, they're designed to help the people who are deciding whether to meet you. There's nothing wrong with them in that context - it's just being honest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

Don't tell me how to react. Man, woman, TV, TS, couple.. Does it matter which person (who you still don't know) you pick on to call deluded and in denial?

It's not just you either. Others are saying same thing. All the time. Every day.

So quick to judge others and label, so quick to assume.

Be it who we sleep with, how many, how often, how we define ourselves, how you define it..

Just live and let live man!

There is a difference between TS and TV, as TS often point out.

A man that keeps going with TV yet claims to be straight is in denial they are having sexual contact with another male. They are having a homosexual experience.

I know genuine straight men and they would never entertain the idea of a TV as they recognise them as male.

If I claimed to be gay yet kept having sexual experiences with a female dressed up as a man, at which point would you start to question if I was genuinely gay? I know gay men who would never dream of this

It is not about being intolerant, it is about being realistic. I don’t know why you are getting so defensive?

I have stated many times on these boards I dont care if men go withTV, as long as they are not hypocrites and write negative comments on their profile about gay and bi men, it is hypocrisy in the extreme

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They should just put “open minded” as an option"

100% correct x

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By *r and Mrs A HornyCouple
over a year ago

coventry

"They should just put “open minded” as an option

100% correct x"

Definitely this

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

Don't tell me how to react. Man, woman, TV, TS, couple.. Does it matter which person (who you still don't know) you pick on to call deluded and in denial?

It's not just you either. Others are saying same thing. All the time. Every day.

So quick to judge others and label, so quick to assume.

Be it who we sleep with, how many, how often, how we define ourselves, how you define it..

Just live and let live man!

There is a difference between TS and TV, as TS often point out.

A man that keeps going with TV yet claims to be straight is in denial they are having sexual contact with another male. They are having a homosexual experience.

I know genuine straight men and they would never entertain the idea of a TV as they recognise them as male.

It is not about being intolerant, it is about being realistic. I don’t know why you are getting so defensive?

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If a man sleeps with a post op ts then he's straight if a man sleeps with a pre op ts he's bisexual or with a stunning tv he's bisexual its who ever you fancy or click with lots of so called straight guys sleep with tv' s pre op ts's and class them selves as straight etc Mr Khan wasn't getting defensive he speaks a lot of sense

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

Don't tell me how to react. Man, woman, TV, TS, couple.. Does it matter which person (who you still don't know) you pick on to call deluded and in denial?

It's not just you either. Others are saying same thing. All the time. Every day.

So quick to judge others and label, so quick to assume.

Be it who we sleep with, how many, how often, how we define ourselves, how you define it..

Just live and let live man!

There is a difference between TS and TV, as TS often point out.

A man that keeps going with TV yet claims to be straight is in denial they are having sexual contact with another male. They are having a homosexual experience.

I know genuine straight men and they would never entertain the idea of a TV as they recognise them as male.

It is not about being intolerant, it is about being realistic. I don’t know why you are getting so defensive?

If a man sleeps with a post op ts then he's straight if a man sleeps with a pre op ts he's bisexual or with a stunning tv he's bisexual its who ever you fancy or click with lots of so called straight guys sleep with tv' s pre op ts's and class them selves as straight etc Mr Khan wasn't getting defensive he speaks a lot of sense

Again I was not referring to TS, pre or post op. I am referring to TV only, which are different to TS as often pointed out by TS themselves.

I am not changing my opinion on men claiming to be straight who go with TV so we are all going to have to agree to disagree

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

Don't tell me how to react. Man, woman, TV, TS, couple.. Does it matter which person (who you still don't know) you pick on to call deluded and in denial?

It's not just you either. Others are saying same thing. All the time. Every day.

So quick to judge others and label, so quick to assume.

Be it who we sleep with, how many, how often, how we define ourselves, how you define it..

Just live and let live man!

There is a difference between TS and TV, as TS often point out.

A man that keeps going with TV yet claims to be straight is in denial they are having sexual contact with another male. They are having a homosexual experience.

I know genuine straight men and they would never entertain the idea of a TV as they recognise them as male.

It is not about being intolerant, it is about being realistic. I don’t know why you are getting so defensive?

Again I was not referring to TS, pre or post op. I am referring to TV only, which are different to TS as often pointed out by TS themselves.

I am not changing my opinion on men claiming to be straight who go with TV so we are all going to have to agree to disagree

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Men who go with tv's are bisexual but hey ho who cares

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

Don't tell me how to react. Man, woman, TV, TS, couple.. Does it matter which person (who you still don't know) you pick on to call deluded and in denial?

It's not just you either. Others are saying same thing. All the time. Every day.

So quick to judge others and label, so quick to assume.

Be it who we sleep with, how many, how often, how we define ourselves, how you define it..

Just live and let live man!

There is a difference between TS and TV, as TS often point out.

A man that keeps going with TV yet claims to be straight is in denial they are having sexual contact with another male. They are having a homosexual experience.

I know genuine straight men and they would never entertain the idea of a TV as they recognise them as male.

It is not about being intolerant, it is about being realistic. I don’t know why you are getting so defensive?

Again I was not referring to TS, pre or post op. I am referring to TV only, which are different to TS as often pointed out by TS themselves.

I am not changing my opinion on men claiming to be straight who go with TV so we are all going to have to agree to disagree

Men who go with tv's are bisexual but hey ho who cares

I am not disagreeing with you, I agree they are bi at least (bicurious as a minimum). I know of gay men who go with TV too but not TGirls.

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By *ltcouple666Couple
over a year ago

cheshire

"They should just put “open minded” as an option

100% correct x"

This would be perfect!

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

Don't tell me how to react. Man, woman, TV, TS, couple.. Does it matter which person (who you still don't know) you pick on to call deluded and in denial?

It's not just you either. Others are saying same thing. All the time. Every day.

So quick to judge others and label, so quick to assume.

Be it who we sleep with, how many, how often, how we define ourselves, how you define it..

Just live and let live man!

There is a difference between TS and TV, as TS often point out.

A man that keeps going with TV yet claims to be straight is in denial they are having sexual contact with another male. They are having a homosexual experience.

I know genuine straight men and they would never entertain the idea of a TV as they recognise them as male.

It is not about being intolerant, it is about being realistic. I don’t know why you are getting so defensive?

Again I was not referring to TS, pre or post op. I am referring to TV only, which are different to TS as often pointed out by TS themselves.

I am not changing my opinion on men claiming to be straight who go with TV so we are all going to have to agree to disagree

Men who go with tv's are bisexual but hey ho who cares

I am not disagreeing with you, I agree they are bi at least (bicurious as a minimum). I know of gay men who go with TV too but not TGirls. "

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By *iscreet gent2018Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

I get this. I’m ‘straight’ but I have played bi or gay many times too. I only fancy women but a sexy tv really does it for me also. I also love to watch tv, bi or gay porn also so bring it on,,,, let the fun commence lol

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

"I get this. I’m ‘straight’ but I have played bi or gay many times too. I only fancy women but a sexy tv really does it for me also. I also love to watch tv, bi or gay porn also so bring it on,,,, let the fun commence lol"
No thanks

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By *ltcouple666Couple
over a year ago

cheshire

"I don't have an issue with it...

My OH is bi and on our profile we state we're specifically looking for bi men, women and couples.

If they're not listed as bi or bi curious, we tend to not message back. We get too many messages from straight guys who just wanna fuck me. Not what we're into.

Totally agree. We rarely reply to straight profiles and often don't even read the message..

The problem we've found with "fab straight" is as you say to Fuck Mrs MP and there is very little mm interaction.

The worst are messages that say they don't mind being sucked. Well breaking news, as I bi guy I like to be sucked too "

Yes there's alot of that "he can suck me but I'm not sucking the mr" it's a no Thank you from us then lol tad selfish innit x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

Don't tell me how to react. Man, woman, TV, TS, couple.. Does it matter which person (who you still don't know) you pick on to call deluded and in denial?

It's not just you either. Others are saying same thing. All the time. Every day.

So quick to judge others and label, so quick to assume.

Be it who we sleep with, how many, how often, how we define ourselves, how you define it..

Just live and let live man!

There is a difference between TS and TV, as TS often point out.

A man that keeps going with TV yet claims to be straight is in denial they are having sexual contact with another male. They are having a homosexual experience.

I know genuine straight men and they would never entertain the idea of a TV as they recognise them as male.

It is not about being intolerant, it is about being realistic. I don’t know why you are getting so defensive?

Cheers mdears.

My point being.. Reserve your judgment till you've at least had the chance to get to know someone. Whatever your preconceptions are, they're probably wrong.

I don't know why he's so hung up on the difference between tv/TS. Just another person you are either are, or are not attracted to.

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By *ultry SuccubusTV/TS
over a year ago

London

Wondering if the issues concern the labels or the action of insulting/accusing others of denial.

I am not offended at what a profile labels themselves but I cringe everytime I read a profile accusing/judging others of denial.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

Don't tell me how to react. Man, woman, TV, TS, couple.. Does it matter which person (who you still don't know) you pick on to call deluded and in denial?

It's not just you either. Others are saying same thing. All the time. Every day.

So quick to judge others and label, so quick to assume.

Be it who we sleep with, how many, how often, how we define ourselves, how you define it..

Just live and let live man!

There is a difference between TS and TV, as TS often point out.

A man that keeps going with TV yet claims to be straight is in denial they are having sexual contact with another male. They are having a homosexual experience.

I know genuine straight men and they would never entertain the idea of a TV as they recognise them as male.

It is not about being intolerant, it is about being realistic. I don’t know why you are getting so defensive?

Cheers mdears.

My point being.. Reserve your judgment till you've at least had the chance to get to know someone. Whatever your preconceptions are, they're probably wrong.

I don't know why he's so hung up on the difference between tv/TS. Just another person you are either are, or are not attracted to.

Why are TS so hung up on the differences then between them and TV.

If I caused you offence I caused you offence, it does seem to enrage men who like to play with TV but convince themselves they are straight.

Lets agree to disagree, as my opinions not changing. I have been around gay and bi men, including TS / TV/ CD for 23 years seeing as traditionally I am gay but not quite now. My opinions are strong and entrenched

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By *abrielle247Couple (FF)
over a year ago

PDI Gran Canaria

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

Don't tell me how to react. Man, woman, TV, TS, couple.. Does it matter which person (who you still don't know) you pick on to call deluded and in denial?

It's not just you either. Others are saying same thing. All the time. Every day.

So quick to judge others and label, so quick to assume.

Be it who we sleep with, how many, how often, how we define ourselves, how you define it..

Just live and let live man!

There is a difference between TS and TV, as TS often point out.

A man that keeps going with TV yet claims to be straight is in denial they are having sexual contact with another male. They are having a homosexual experience.

I know genuine straight men and they would never entertain the idea of a TV as they recognise them as male.

It is not about being intolerant, it is about being realistic. I don’t know why you are getting so defensive?

Cheers mdears.

My point being.. Reserve your judgment till you've at least had the chance to get to know someone. Whatever your preconceptions are, they're probably wrong.

I don't know why he's so hung up on the difference between tv/TS. Just another person you are either are, or are not attracted to.

Why are TS so hung up on the differences then between them and TV.

If I caused you offence I caused you offence, it does seem to enrage men who like to play with TV but convince themselves they are straight.

We're not hung up about that, but a big difference in a HPW and TS don't you think.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m overwhelmed by the irony of a “traditionally gay” guy telling people who they are, and are not, allowed to be.

I thought you’d know more about how labels and stereotypes are often harmful and untrue... I don’t really understand how you have such old fashioned views - unless you’ve been hanging around with said stereotypical people, or are one of them yourself

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Madness! You're clearly deluded and both in denial according to people who don't know you.

Again we were referring to TV not TS. Calm down

Don't tell me how to react. Man, woman, TV, TS, couple.. Does it matter which person (who you still don't know) you pick on to call deluded and in denial?

It's not just you either. Others are saying same thing. All the time. Every day.

So quick to judge others and label, so quick to assume.

Be it who we sleep with, how many, how often, how we define ourselves, how you define it..

Just live and let live man!

There is a difference between TS and TV, as TS often point out.

A man that keeps going with TV yet claims to be straight is in denial they are having sexual contact with another male. They are having a homosexual experience.

I know genuine straight men and they would never entertain the idea of a TV as they recognise them as male.

It is not about being intolerant, it is about being realistic. I don’t know why you are getting so defensive?

Cheers mdears.

My point being.. Reserve your judgment till you've at least had the chance to get to know someone. Whatever your preconceptions are, they're probably wrong.

I don't know why he's so hung up on the difference between tv/TS. Just another person you are either are, or are not attracted to.

Why are TS so hung up on the differences then between them and TV.

If I caused you offence I caused you offence, it does seem to enrage men who like to play with TV but convince themselves they are straight.

We're not hung up about that, but a big difference in a HPW and TS don't you think."

How the hell did our post about an occasional Bi encounter in a swinger club turn into a full on TS TV debate?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m overwhelmed by the irony of a “traditionally gay” guy telling people who they are, and are not, allowed to be.

Oh calm down. I am referring purely to TV, which on another thread you stated you knew nothing about.

I have stopped calling myself fully gay due to the interest I have suddenly developed in women. I now consider myself bicurious. No hangups, no delusions, no confusion here though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m overwhelmed by the irony of a “traditionally gay” guy telling people who they are, and are not, allowed to be.

Oh calm down. I am referring purely to TV, which on another thread you stated you knew nothing about.

I have stopped calling myself fully gay due to the interest I have suddenly developed in women. I now consider myself bicurious. No hangups, no delusions, no confusion here though

So you should have an understanding of sexual fluidity then.

Only in some it can flutter through the cycle in days, weeks months and years.

Feel differently depending on mood person or place.

Predominantly I'm heterosexual, though very occasionally I feel like veering off course, depending on mood and person. Others are different an identity differently.

Labels help identify when used correctly. They're anything but when used as an insult to question people's identity, beliefs or morals.

How would you feel being branded deluded, or in denial for swimming in the straight pond? Especially given how comfy and entrenched your view?

I get why people want honesty, but on here you have to earn it. Nobody has an automatic right to know your sexuality, no matter how much they think they do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think we have exhausted this particular discussion buddy

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

"This is from our profile. Make your own mind up.

***** BISEXUALITY*******

Thing is anyone hoping to meet you knows the score. You're seeking your own like minded people.

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