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"How is it a double standard? " I guess because they’ll fuck you,but wouldn’t dream of dating you...selfish! | |||
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"How is it a double standard? I guess because they’ll fuck you,but wouldn’t dream of dating you...selfish!" Tbf, they don't sound like the kinda guy that's worth dating | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!." What he said ![]() | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!." Agree but I met someone out of fab. Then we talked about sexual preferences and it came up we were both on. I didn't explain that at the beginning because that isn't the point. | |||
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"Fuckable not dateable is understandable if there's a physical attraction but you don't click... however, saying someone is undateable because you're on here is just silly, particularly as they are here too!! I'd argue it could be a more exciting relationship as a result of being on here!" . That's what I would think. If you meet someone who's far from vanilla it's great. It's a good step to climb from | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!." The site brings different things for different people. To presume everyone gets the same is a little small minded. I saw someone for five months off here. | |||
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"So. The last 4 men I've met have thrown out the fab double standard. Fuckable not dateable. I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch. But I'm looking for a regular partner. However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. As someone who is single it's inevitable that that you will think a step further if there's a connection even if meet on here looking for no strings, I've been there myself nothing wrong with that This has thrown me a little bit. Of course when I hear such dross I realise said person isn't worthy of my time. But having met some ladies off fab also in my situation, they've encountered the same double standard. I don't really have a question as such. I just needed to get this outta my head To think we've evolved. " | |||
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""I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch." quote from OP yet the OP seems to be complaining when a guy does the self same thing,I am on here to find some like minded people who want some fun with no strings therefore to fuck not to date. There are plenty of dating sites online if that's what you're looking for." ![]() | |||
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"The difference between here and elsewhere is that people will - no guarantees as we know about lies - be open to non-monogamous relationships and be upfront about only seeking sex, compared to the more general world. All genders can be totally fixed on a closed relationship, though men often get tagged as the obsessive and controlling ones. But it ultimately depends on each of us, how we've perceived how we 'should' behave as well as those of the genders we would date. Those perceived pressures are real and very strong - even if we can ultimately disregard them and make our own life and standards. We can make our standards as clear and simple, such that they work for us. The dissonance we may feel at any point can be a reminder to just do what is right for us and recognition that finding our way and understanding others, who will typically be different, is tough. Fairytale prince and princesses finding love are just one part of the cultural influences that guide us." Thanks for a reasonable considered reply. It's nice to read. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!." It can be both for many people. There’s nothing in the rules to say that this site cannot be used by people for dating, infact many use it successfully. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. What he said ![]() I said this last week on another thread, and got witch hunted. Sex site not dating! | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. It can be both for many people. There’s nothing in the rules to say that this site cannot be used by people for dating, infact many use it successfully. " If I ever found someone I clicked with on here and we had stuff in common, I'd definitely date them. Whether or not I'd want an open relationship with someone is another matter entirely because I truly don't know. I don't understand the mentality that because it's a swinging site, it's purely about sex. Like you say it can be about both. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. What he said ![]() It’s actually a swingers site, however that doesn’t mean everyone uses it as such. And as I said before, there is nothing in the rules to say people cannot use this site for dating. If people who choose to use this site differently to you, bother you, block them. Everyone is entitled to use Fab as they see fit. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. What he said ![]() It really depends what little clique of forumites seem to be online, Once one posts a disparaging reply the rest follow suit and start the witchhunt | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. It can be both for many people. There’s nothing in the rules to say that this site cannot be used by people for dating, infact many use it successfully. " You may use it for whatever you desire, it’s just unlikely to give you the desired results. I agree that a relationship can easily blossom, though this is not the place to be actively seeking it. If one does blossom, then surely it had originally stemmed from fb fwbswinging relationship romantic relationship. You’re going to have a whole lot of sweet nothings whispered in your ear. When a man wants something, there’s no other way to get it, but to appease to your desires(for that moment). I wish you luck. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!." We tend to see it as such too. I think that problems occur because either people don't communicate clearly how they see or use fab and assume that everyone feels as they do or opportunists will claim to feel the same way to improve their chances. Many of the single guys we meet are at pains to point out that they would never swing when in a relationship which to me says it all. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. It can be both for many people. There’s nothing in the rules to say that this site cannot be used by people for dating, infact many use it successfully. You may use it for whatever you desire, it’s just unlikely to give you the desired results. I agree that a relationship can easily blossom, though this is not the place to be actively seeking it. If one does blossom, then surely it had originally stemmed from fb fwbswinging relationship romantic relationship. You’re going to have a whole lot of sweet nothings whispered in your ear. When a man wants something, there’s no other way to get it, but to appease to your desires(for that moment). I wish you luck. " I’m not sure what part of my post gave you the impression I’m using this site for dating, I can assure you I’m not, so your post towards me isn’t useful lol. Plenty people are though, and there’s enough success stories within the forum to reassure anyone who does use this site for more than sex. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. It can be both for many people. There’s nothing in the rules to say that this site cannot be used by people for dating, infact many use it successfully. You may use it for whatever you desire, it’s just unlikely to give you the desired results. I agree that a relationship can easily blossom, though this is not the place to be actively seeking it. If one does blossom, then surely it had originally stemmed from fb fwbswinging relationship romantic relationship. You’re going to have a whole lot of sweet nothings whispered in your ear. When a man wants something, there’s no other way to get it, but to appease to your desires(for that moment). I wish you luck. I’m not sure what part of my post gave you the impression I’m using this site for dating, I can assure you I’m not, so your post towards me isn’t useful lol. Plenty people are though, and there’s enough success stories within the forum to reassure anyone who does use this site for more than sex. " The majority of it was aimed at the op’s comment. Though it also relates to what you had mentioned also. I think I had intended to reply more to the op, though done so to you by mistake. My post never denied that relationships can form. | |||
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"Did they say you being here made you undateable. Or is that an assumption? I couldn't quite ote tell from the post. " Wondering the same. | |||
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"Totally get what you're saying...BUT...just because I fancy someone enough to fuck them, doesn't mean I think we're compatible enough or will want to date them. Doesn'tmean I don't think they're good enough, they're just not for me. I don't need much in common with someone to have sex with them, mutual physical attraction, and the ability to laugh with them, that's about it. I'd need more to wanna date them. So long as they're honest about not being interested in dating you, I see nothing wrong in that. And I don't see it as a double standard at all, fucking and dating are two completely different things." this And lower ur expectations especially the guys u meet outside fab its different world | |||
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"Totally get what you're saying...BUT...just because I fancy someone enough to fuck them, doesn't mean I think we're compatible enough or will want to date them. Doesn'tmean I don't think they're good enough, they're just not for me. I don't need much in common with someone to have sex with them, mutual physical attraction, and the ability to laugh with them, that's about it. I'd need more to wanna date them. So long as they're honest about not being interested in dating you, I see nothing wrong in that. And I don't see it as a double standard at all, fucking and dating are two completely different things." ![]() ![]() | |||
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""I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch." quote from OP yet the OP seems to be complaining when a guy does the self same thing,I am on here to find some like minded people who want some fun with no strings therefore to fuck not to date. There are plenty of dating sites online if that's what you're looking for." She also said However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. I assumed she meant guys looking for dates, but using fab to scratch that itch in the meantime too, she wasn’t complaining about them doing that, just that because she does that they won’t date her! But they expect others to date them even though they are doing it (but they will obviously keep that a secret?) I wasn’t looking for dates when I was on here as a single lady, but I did find men that were looking for a relationship on dating sites and fucking on Fab, two actually said that they would never like to be in a swinging relationship they were looking for a ‘normal’ girl not a slag! Lol | |||
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""I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch." quote from OP yet the OP seems to be complaining when a guy does the self same thing,I am on here to find some like minded people who want some fun with no strings therefore to fuck not to date. There are plenty of dating sites online if that's what you're looking for. She also said However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. I assumed she meant guys looking for dates, but using fab to scratch that itch in the meantime too, she wasn’t complaining about them doing that, just that because she does that they won’t date her! But they expect others to date them even though they are doing it (but they will obviously keep that a secret?) I wasn’t looking for dates when I was on here as a single lady, but I did find men that were looking for a relationship on dating sites and fucking on Fab, two actually said that they would never like to be in a swinging relationship they were looking for a ‘normal’ girl not a slag! Lol " Thanks. You nailed it X | |||
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"There are some men who frequent sites like these happy to meet up & have sex with hundreds of women, but could never date them. They don’t ever think about the fact that they are the male equivalent of these women on sites like this. Sexually liberated, confident women scare & intimidate insecure men. Don’t waste any of your precious time with them. Plenty of men who are secure enough within themselves to not have an issue with a woman’s sexual past/present." I agree with you on this point, I lost count of the amount of times myself with my ex heard the phrase "if she was my girlfriend, I wouldn't let her...". Plenty of guys are willing to have sex with a sexually liberated woman but the idea of being in a relationship with one terrifies them. To my mind, it's about control or fear that the lady will behave the same way as they do. The double standard of behaviour and expectation is rife, not to mention the insult to the person they're trying to get into bed! | |||
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"There are some men who frequent sites like these happy to meet up & have sex with hundreds of women, but could never date them. They don’t ever think about the fact that they are the male equivalent of these women on sites like this. Sexually liberated, confident women scare & intimidate insecure men. Don’t waste any of your precious time with them. Plenty of men who are secure enough within themselves to not have an issue with a woman’s sexual past/present. I agree with you on this point, I lost count of the amount of times myself with my ex heard the phrase "if she was my girlfriend, I wouldn't let her...". Plenty of guys are willing to have sex with a sexually liberated woman but the idea of being in a relationship with one terrifies them. To my mind, it's about control or fear that the lady will behave the same way as they do. The double standard of behaviour and expectation is rife, not to mention the insult to the person they're trying to get into bed! " Yes. That's exactly it. I met a guy for coffee once. He was cheating. It never went further than that coffee date. I asked. If you cheat on your wife why not ask her to swing. So she has the same opportunity. He said because I couldn't handle it. I like having my cake and eating it. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. What he said ![]() I think that this site has multiple uses for lots of different people. Personally I met my girlfriend on fab, it works great to meet people as there is no need or worry about sexual history. it's also a great way to meet others for casual encounters, the uses that you've described aren't mutually exclusive. | |||
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"There are some men who frequent sites like these happy to meet up & have sex with hundreds of women, but could never date them. They don’t ever think about the fact that they are the male equivalent of these women on sites like this. Sexually liberated, confident women scare & intimidate insecure men. Don’t waste any of your precious time with them. Plenty of men who are secure enough within themselves to not have an issue with a woman’s sexual past/present. I agree with you on this point, I lost count of the amount of times myself with my ex heard the phrase "if she was my girlfriend, I wouldn't let her...". Plenty of guys are willing to have sex with a sexually liberated woman but the idea of being in a relationship with one terrifies them. To my mind, it's about control or fear that the lady will behave the same way as they do. The double standard of behaviour and expectation is rife, not to mention the insult to the person they're trying to get into bed! " Absolutely. ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Men will lower their standards to get a fuck here. They often have sex with anyone on offer that in real life they wouldnt be seen with. Thats a hard one on the ego." But isn’t that the other side of the coin of women who only go with guys they’d have no hope of meeting in real life? That must also be hard on the ego of the many men who aren’t of that standard. | |||
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"Can't say I've heard it put so eloquently, but alot of the single guys we've met have said they couldn't swing with a partner. But they'll happily share someone elses. I might be wrong but that seems the double standard you mention " I understand you point, but theres a lot of conflicting standards on here, what can I say thats FAB for you ![]() | |||
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"So. The last 4 men I've met have thrown out the fab double standard. Fuckable not dateable. I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch. But I'm looking for a regular partner. However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. This has thrown me a little bit. Of course when I hear such dross I realise said person isn't worthy of my time. But having met some ladies off fab also in my situation, they've encountered the same double standard. I don't really have a question as such. I just needed to get this outta my head To think we've evolved. " So ,, let me get this straight. These guys use fab ,which is a swingers site, to meet swingers, and they profess to be swingers, but they don’t want a relationship with a woman who is a swinger? | |||
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""I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch." quote from OP yet the OP seems to be complaining when a guy does the self same thing,I am on here to find some like minded people who want some fun with no strings therefore to fuck not to date. There are plenty of dating sites online if that's what you're looking for. She also said However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. I assumed she meant guys looking for dates, but using fab to scratch that itch in the meantime too, she wasn’t complaining about them doing that, just that because she does that they won’t date her! But they expect others to date them even though they are doing it (but they will obviously keep that a secret?) I wasn’t looking for dates when I was on here as a single lady, but I did find men that were looking for a relationship on dating sites and fucking on Fab, two actually said that they would never like to be in a swinging relationship they were looking for a ‘normal’ girl not a slag! Lol Thanks. You nailed it X " ![]() | |||
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"Men will lower their standards to get a fuck here. They often have sex with anyone on offer that in real life they wouldnt be seen with. Thats a hard one on the ego." I think a lot of men feel pressured by family and peer group to select long term partners in order to present a certain image. Much as in years gone by, homosexual men would still marry women in order to satisfy society's requirements, so many men today who internalise society's messages about how women should look and act, may be sexually more attracted to a larger women with ink and piercings but when it comes to being out and about in public or round their family they want someone conventionally 'pretty', slim and as conventional as possible, despite that not being their true preference. Which is sad. And I suppose living a lie like that is why they're the sort of bitter saddos that suddenly start insulting women's appearance who three minute earlier they were messaging for sex. | |||
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"So. The last 4 men I've met have thrown out the fab double standard. Fuckable not dateable. I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch. But I'm looking for a regular partner. However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. This has thrown me a little bit. Of course when I hear such dross I realise said person isn't worthy of my time. But having met some ladies off fab also in my situation, they've encountered the same double standard. I don't really have a question as such. I just needed to get this outta my head To think we've evolved. " | |||
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"I think a few theories have been meted out on this thread - and all are true of some people! There are most definitely guys who - though they’re happy to share a guy’s wife or shag a woman who shagged elsewhere days earlier - are looking for a faithful, monogamous relationship when they ‘settle down!’ Ironically, in my experience they often come back a couple of years later - either newly single or behind their partners’ back - because monogamy isn’t actually for them! Secondly - I’ve absolutely shagged incredibly hot young guys - often regularly - who wouldn’t dream of dating me in the real world - but neither would I date them! I’ve met plenty of men on here willing to date me - lovely men that I’ve enjoyed meeting - but what I need from a relationship goes much further than the superficial attraction that I need to shag someone! When I meet on here I don’t care how well read they are - how politically aware - whether they enjoy a great theatre performance as well as a concert or the gym!! Essentially - my ‘list’ of requirements for a relationship is somewhat longer than my list of requirements for a fab shag - and I imagine it’s the same for the men of fab - hence they’d fuck people they wouldn’t date - just as I do regularly - but totally without malice! I fully accept that lots of hot men want to shag a ‘milf’ - but not everyone wants to date one! Similarly - I don’t want to date a guy who spends several hours a day in the gym and eats micro managed meals that don’t allow for nights out in restaurants - but I’ll happily fuck one fairly regularly! " Well said that lady! | |||
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"I think a few theories have been meted out on this thread - and all are true of some people! There are most definitely guys who - though they’re happy to share a guy’s wife or shag a woman who shagged elsewhere days earlier - are looking for a faithful, monogamous relationship when they ‘settle down!’ Ironically, in my experience they often come back a couple of years later - either newly single or behind their partners’ back - because monogamy isn’t actually for them! Secondly - I’ve absolutely shagged incredibly hot young guys - often regularly - who wouldn’t dream of dating me in the real world - but neither would I date them! I’ve met plenty of men on here willing to date me - lovely men that I’ve enjoyed meeting - but what I need from a relationship goes much further than the superficial attraction that I need to shag someone! When I meet on here I don’t care how well read they are - how politically aware - whether they enjoy a great theatre performance as well as a concert or the gym!! Essentially - my ‘list’ of requirements for a relationship is somewhat longer than my list of requirements for a fab shag - and I imagine it’s the same for the men of fab - hence they’d fuck people they wouldn’t date - just as I do regularly - but totally without malice! I fully accept that lots of hot men want to shag a ‘milf’ - but not everyone wants to date one! Similarly - I don’t want to date a guy who spends several hours a day in the gym and eats micro managed meals that don’t allow for nights out in restaurants - but I’ll happily fuck one fairly regularly! " ![]() | |||
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"Men will lower their standards to get a fuck here. They often have sex with anyone on offer that in real life they wouldnt be seen with. Thats a hard one on the ego. I think a lot of men feel pressured by family and peer group to select long term partners in order to present a certain image. Much as in years gone by, homosexual men would still marry women in order to satisfy society's requirements, so many men today who internalise society's messages about how women should look and act, may be sexually more attracted to a larger women with ink and piercings but when it comes to being out and about in public or round their family they want someone conventionally 'pretty', slim and as conventional as possible, despite that not being their true preference. Which is sad. And I suppose living a lie like that is why they're the sort of bitter saddos that suddenly start insulting women's appearance who three minute earlier they were messaging for sex. " ![]() | |||
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"Men will lower their standards to get a fuck here. They often have sex with anyone on offer that in real life they wouldnt be seen with. Thats a hard one on the ego." Some men will, not all. I've turned down more meets than people I've met for various reasons. I had the offer to meet a married woman who I had met (on another site) as part of a couple behind her husbands back. But I turned it down because I've been cheated on twice (non swinging), and out of principle I won't do it to anyone else. | |||
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" ![]() ![]() I'm in the same camp, I would like a regular relationship but have found myself being judged for playing while looking for it, yet I'm happy and comfortable in myself and the lifestyle to accept someone the same but they don't want you because you play..hey ho maybe one day..x | |||
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"I’m in exactly the same situation, but I wouldn’t even think of looking for a guy to date from here? I think a lot (not all) men would say pretty much anything for a meet. Although around me plenty of the guys in pof are also on here looking for different things (on there ‘looking for a relationship’ on here ‘strictly NSA’) I’ve had so many offers from men trying to ‘save me’ from this site... It seems by being on here men think we’re not ‘girlfriend’ material and yet most of my friends have slept with more people than me just by going out every Saturday night haha" I’ll try again as our posts got mixed up... Tinder is the same double standard... some woman are honest but the vast majority of men are not ... Prefer here as most people are honest except the ‘straight’ guys lol xx | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. What he said ![]() dating sites are one thing, Fab another, there is some overlap but more the exception than the rule for probably all but the more intrepid | |||
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"So. The last 4 men I've met have thrown out the fab double standard. Fuckable not dateable. I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch. But I'm looking for a regular partner. However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. This has thrown me a little bit. Of course when I hear such dross I realise said person isn't worthy of my time. But having met some ladies off fab also in my situation, they've encountered the same double standard. I don't really have a question as such. I just needed to get this outta my head To think we've evolved. " I don’t mean this to sound personal, and I definitely don’t mean it as such - but maybe those men just don’t want to date you, and then find any excuse. There’s a big difference between comparability in sex and compatibility in a relationship. I bet if they found someone they really fell head over heels for then they wouldn’t care if they had been on here. I’m not saying this as anything bad against you, but from a mans point of view I can imagine them saying the above as a way of letting someone down gently. | |||
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"So. The last 4 men I've met have thrown out the fab double standard. Fuckable not dateable. I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch. But I'm looking for a regular partner. However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. This has thrown me a little bit. Of course when I hear such dross I realise said person isn't worthy of my time. But having met some ladies off fab also in my situation, they've encountered the same double standard. I don't really have a question as such. I just needed to get this outta my head To think we've evolved. " Regular partner? Do you mean long term vanilla relationship? Or reg swing partner? | |||
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"So. The last 4 men I've met have thrown out the fab double standard. Fuckable not dateable. I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch. But I'm looking for a regular partner. However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. This has thrown me a little bit. Of course when I hear such dross I realise said person isn't worthy of my time. But having met some ladies off fab also in my situation, they've encountered the same double standard. I don't really have a question as such. I just needed to get this outta my head To think we've evolved. I don’t mean this to sound personal, and I definitely don’t mean it as such - but maybe those men just don’t want to date you, and then find any excuse. There’s a big difference between comparability in sex and compatibility in a relationship. I bet if they found someone they really fell head over heels for then they wouldn’t care if they had been on here. I’m not saying this as anything bad against you, but from a mans point of view I can imagine them saying the above as a way of letting someone down gently." I'm sure there are those out there that this applies to. But a lot of the single guys we have met have openly said they couldn't share a partner. But will happily share another mans wife. And a few of them have been playing away so definitely double standards. | |||
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"So. The last 4 men I've met have thrown out the fab double standard. Fuckable not dateable. I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch. But I'm looking for a regular partner. However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. This has thrown me a little bit. Of course when I hear such dross I realise said person isn't worthy of my time. But having met some ladies off fab also in my situation, they've encountered the same double standard. I don't really have a question as such. I just needed to get this outta my head To think we've evolved. I don’t mean this to sound personal, and I definitely don’t mean it as such - but maybe those men just don’t want to date you, and then find any excuse. There’s a big difference between comparability in sex and compatibility in a relationship. I bet if they found someone they really fell head over heels for then they wouldn’t care if they had been on here. I’m not saying this as anything bad against you, but from a mans point of view I can imagine them saying the above as a way of letting someone down gently. I'm sure there are those out there that this applies to. But a lot of the single guys we have met have openly said they couldn't share a partner. But will happily share another mans wife. And a few of them have been playing away so definitely double standards. " That does not seem fair or reasonable... | |||
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"So. The last 4 men I've met have thrown out the fab double standard. Fuckable not dateable. I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch. But I'm looking for a regular partner. However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. This has thrown me a little bit. Of course when I hear such dross I realise said person isn't worthy of my time. But having met some ladies off fab also in my situation, they've encountered the same double standard. I don't really have a question as such. I just needed to get this outta my head To think we've evolved. I don’t mean this to sound personal, and I definitely don’t mean it as such - but maybe those men just don’t want to date you, and then find any excuse. There’s a big difference between comparability in sex and compatibility in a relationship. I bet if they found someone they really fell head over heels for then they wouldn’t care if they had been on here. I’m not saying this as anything bad against you, but from a mans point of view I can imagine them saying the above as a way of letting someone down gently. I'm sure there are those out there that this applies to. But a lot of the single guys we have met have openly said they couldn't share a partner. But will happily share another mans wife. And a few of them have been playing away so definitely double standards. " It is only a double standard if the person currently has a partner otherwise it is personal choices. If I am in a relationship I am monogamous, if I am not in a relationship then all bets are off. I think your concern is the men who somehow think they are superior because they would not share their partner and make you feel they are taking advantage of you. Not all single men are like that, some of us, when single, just enjoy the interaction because there is no moral superiority in relationship personal choices. | |||
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"It doesn't apply to all. We met through fab and a local club. Within a year we were living together and married the following year. We are still swinging and couldn't be happier! I think the problem is that there are just so many men playing away on the site it puts them all in a bad light. Perhaps fab need to tighten up on the number of would be single men joining. Having said that some of the women are just as bad! We are a fickle lot. Perhaps just don't use it a as dating site." What do you mean don't use it as a dating site? You met on the site. | |||
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"Snap. Men seem to want a women who willing to play. But minute they find one. Oh u can't play with others. " Oh yes, I've had this a couple of times. They want exclusive but it doesn't apply to them | |||
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"It's pathetic for my money. I can't abide the '....any hole's a goal' brigade. Surely if someone is attractive enough to be in bed with they're good enough to be proud to be seen with??? Shallow fellas! I'm embarrassed to be a bloke on here for once. " I've fucked people I wouldn't want to be seen in public with. | |||
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"It's pathetic for my money. I can't abide the '....any hole's a goal' brigade. Surely if someone is attractive enough to be in bed with they're good enough to be proud to be seen with??? Shallow fellas! I'm embarrassed to be a bloke on here for once. I've fucked people I wouldn't want to be seen in public with. " Fair enough. Your call. | |||
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"It's pathetic for my money. I can't abide the '....any hole's a goal' brigade. Surely if someone is attractive enough to be in bed with they're good enough to be proud to be seen with??? Shallow fellas! I'm embarrassed to be a bloke on here for once. I've fucked people I wouldn't want to be seen in public with. Fair enough. Your call. " If they won't meet me in public first I don't meet them. Simple. Safety first. | |||
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"It's pathetic for my money. I can't abide the '....any hole's a goal' brigade. Surely if someone is attractive enough to be in bed with they're good enough to be proud to be seen with??? Shallow fellas! I'm embarrassed to be a bloke on here for once. " It’s not necessarily about being attractive. I’ve fucked guys from here that I wouldn’t date. Their lives are too complex or they have kids or we don’t have anything in common other than sex. I also see some guys regularly. Still wouldn’t date them, but for a few hours we have a great time. There’s loads of reasons people might not want a relationship. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. What he said ![]() Swinging site not sex site. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. It can be both for many people. There’s nothing in the rules to say that this site cannot be used by people for dating, infact many use it successfully. " Of course it can be used however they like, but they also need to remember others use it very differently and filter very differently. They may avoid those who use it as a dating site, like I avoid those who use it a fuck and move on to the next. To the OP, I actually don't see what you mean by double standards. I wouldn't date anyone on here because I wouldn't want to pursue the swing idea with someone I'm looking at dating. When I start dating then I'll leave this site. If I considered someone Frome this site to date then there would be the greater pressure to return to this and I know that would then end the relationship as it's not what I'd be looking for. I'm not expecting many to understand that but that just reinforces my thinking on it. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. What he said ![]() Most are on here for sex, not swinging. | |||
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"I do believe that its not really a double standard more an insecurity. Being on this site and meeting someone else on this site and trying to be exclusive is hard as im finding out. There is always that niggle in the back of both your minds that they are on here when you are not and vice versa. It can get in the way x " I agree but don't see it as any insecurity, rather, incompatible with what I'd be looking for when in a relationship. Some will be happy in a relationship and their partner off elsewhere with others. I wouldn't want a swinging relationship. | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!." It is. But it doesnt mean that some can't turn it into that, if both are happy to progress beyond sex. Some couples have met through ths site. Not all continue to swing either ![]() | |||
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"It's pathetic for my money. I can't abide the '....any hole's a goal' brigade. Surely if someone is attractive enough to be in bed with they're good enough to be proud to be seen with??? Shallow fellas! I'm embarrassed to be a bloke on here for once. It’s not necessarily about being attractive. I’ve fucked guys from here that I wouldn’t date. Their lives are too complex or they have kids or we don’t have anything in common other than sex. I also see some guys regularly. Still wouldn’t date them, but for a few hours we have a great time. There’s loads of reasons people might not want a relationship. " OK, fair point. I'm a bloke - I'm bound to be wrong! ![]() | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. What he said ![]() Once you read enough veris the 'sex site' part is a fair assessment IMO. | |||
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"So. The last 4 men I've met have thrown out the fab double standard. Fuckable not dateable. I'm single so use fab to scratch an itch. But I'm looking for a regular partner. However, when I've met men doing the same. Here and on other dating sites it would seem because I'm doing this I'm not dateable. This has thrown me a little bit. Of course when I hear such dross I realise said person isn't worthy of my time. But having met some ladies off fab also in my situation, they've encountered the same double standard. I don't really have a question as such. I just needed to get this outta my head To think we've evolved. " They're a funny bunch online ![]() | |||
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"But this is a swinging site for enjoyable sex not a dating site long term emotional stuff.!!. What he said ![]() Totally ![]() | |||
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"The ironic thing is that the guy who won't date a girl from here will probably be back in a couple of years asking how to get his wife into swinging, " Very true! | |||
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"I really do get the regular play mate thing. It's one thing having sex with someone but a friendship that brings the physical side of it can be something intimate and filthy at the same time" This definitely!! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"The ironic thing is that the guy who won't date a girl from here will probably be back in a couple of years asking how to get his wife into swinging, " I'd say the opposite would be more common, depends on their reasons for not dating a fabber, though I'd agree there would be a few who would as you say. | |||
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"As I am probably one of he "old guys" on the site, I'd like to add my 2 cents. I would love to date someone (a lady) I met through this site. For staters, we have one thing in common. And second, when you get older, and in touch with your mortality, you get your head out of your ass, and appreciate the oppurtunity of meeting someone special. And your priorities change. https://1drv.ms/u/s!Agj785Loh6xW1MN7Hay1jatL7yBT7w." I totally agree. Free your mind and your ass will follow. ![]() | |||
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"It occurred to me as I was reading the thread, I think a lot of guys have the opposite problem. That's to say, women will date us, because we're decent sorts and they like the idea of long term monogamous relationships with us because we're emotionally literate and so on. But, we get passed over for casual sex in favour of the exact type of bloke that most women wouldn't want to be in an LTR with because they're self centred image-obsessed commitment-phobes.... " Good point and true. Bad boy for sex, nice guy for relationship. A generalisation but has some truth to it. | |||
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"The ironic thing is that the guy who won't date a girl from here will probably be back in a couple of years asking how to get his wife into swinging, Very true! " This made me chuckle Not to mention sweet innocent Mandy may be on here but not as honest. | |||
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