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"Not something we’ve ventured very far into other than a paddle to the arse ! I think I could be better at being submissive, D doesn’t always do what he’s told lol " Like I said there are no wrong answers, and if what you do works for you as a couple then that's all good. Why do you think you could be better at being submissive? | |||
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"Not something we’ve ventured very far into other than a paddle to the arse ! I think I could be better at being submissive, D doesn’t always do what he’s told lol Like I said there are no wrong answers, and if what you do works for you as a couple then that's all good. Why do you think you could be better at being submissive? " Because I will do as I’m told and will only speak when asked a question and my answer is always compliant x | |||
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"I am probably not the best to kick this off, but I’ll put in my two penn’orth. Someone for whom the mental play is as important as the physical. Someone who makes me feel respected outside of a play framework so that I can make myself vulnerable within it. Someone who can read me well so that they can anticipate my desires and reflect them back to me. And someone who isn’t too bound up in rules and etiquette, is imaginative and mixes things up." thats similar to what id go with i the mental and antisipaion games got to be there as well as creativity to do your own thing not follow rules others set | |||
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"I am probably not the best to kick this off, but I’ll put in my two penn’orth. Someone for whom the mental play is as important as the physical. Someone who makes me feel respected outside of a play framework so that I can make myself vulnerable within it. Someone who can read me well so that they can anticipate my desires and reflect them back to me. And someone who isn’t too bound up in rules and etiquette, is imaginative and mixes things up." That all makes sense, and the mental connection is just as, if not more, important than the physical one, whichever side of the coin you sit, I think it's important to have that - for the submissive to "feel" the other persons dominance, and for the dominant to truly read the submissive as you say. | |||
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"I am probably not the best to kick this off, but I’ll put in my two penn’orth. Someone for whom the mental play is as important as the physical. Someone who makes me feel respected outside of a play framework so that I can make myself vulnerable within it. Someone who can read me well so that they can anticipate my desires and reflect them back to me. And someone who isn’t too bound up in rules and etiquette, is imaginative and mixes things up.thats similar to what id go with i the mental and antisipaion games got to be there as well as creativity to do your own thing not follow rules others set" example im not a great fan of being called sir i know its respect but it grates on me i like my name but im very new learning on the job you could say but i know what i want and instict tells me what she wants | |||
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"For both humility, respect and an ability to communicate effectively. Humility so you realise you always have something to learn. Respect for anyone you interact with. Ability to communicate effectively so whichever side of the coin you're on you're fulfilling your own and the other person's needs. Be guided by these basics and arm yourself with knowledge. These basic rules don't just apply to some doms or subs in my opinion." A very good "in a nutshell" answer and all those things are key for sure - I think it's also key to have a level of knowledge too, which is often where problems arise and you end up with as you say, those basic rules not being applied | |||
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"I am probably not the best to kick this off, but I’ll put in my two penn’orth. Someone for whom the mental play is as important as the physical. Someone who makes me feel respected outside of a play framework so that I can make myself vulnerable within it. Someone who can read me well so that they can anticipate my desires and reflect them back to me. And someone who isn’t too bound up in rules and etiquette, is imaginative and mixes things up.thats similar to what id go with i the mental and antisipaion games got to be there as well as creativity to do your own thing not follow rules others setexample im not a great fan of being called sir i know its respect but it grates on me i like my name but im very new learning on the job you could say but i know what i want and instict tells me what she wants" There's nothing to say honorifics have to be used though - if you're not comfortable with it, don't use them, or come up with something you are comfortable with - I often think that *some* insist on their use not out of respect or anything like that, but from a need for a sense of self-validation. | |||
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"Simple answer - connection. Someone can be a great dominant to their previous submissive but it doesnt work for you and vice versa. The amount of guys that say I'm a great dominant with x number of years on the BDSM scene and then I find nope not for me. " Absolutely it's about connection, probably even more so than in the swinging world, as a submissive I can't just give myself to anyone, I need to "feel" submissive to that person and that is probably one of the reasons my experience is limited. What is it for you though that gives rise to that connection with a dominant? Any particularly traits or styles you look for in one? | |||
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"Trust in the domme to stick with yoir no nos" That's an absolute given - but what qualities do you look for in a Domme? | |||
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"For both humility, respect and an ability to communicate effectively. Humility so you realise you always have something to learn. Respect for anyone you interact with. Ability to communicate effectively so whichever side of the coin you're on you're fulfilling your own and the other person's needs. Be guided by these basics and arm yourself with knowledge. These basic rules don't just apply to some doms or subs in my opinion. A very good "in a nutshell" answer and all those things are key for sure - I think it's also key to have a level of knowledge too, which is often where problems arise and you end up with as you say, those basic rules not being applied " I didn't mean to put the word "some" in there. I think these criteria apply to any dynamic between people. | |||
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"For both humility, respect and an ability to communicate effectively. Humility so you realise you always have something to learn. Respect for anyone you interact with. Ability to communicate effectively so whichever side of the coin you're on you're fulfilling your own and the other person's needs. Be guided by these basics and arm yourself with knowledge. These basic rules don't just apply to some doms or subs in my opinion. A very good "in a nutshell" answer and all those things are key for sure - I think it's also key to have a level of knowledge too, which is often where problems arise and you end up with as you say, those basic rules not being applied I didn't mean to put the word "some" in there. I think these criteria apply to any dynamic between people. " And I meant to take it out when I fixed it for you too But you're right they're key to not only a D/s dynamic but any relationship and I think there are a lot of similar parallels - yes the individual elements may be completely different, but the underlying principles are the same | |||
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"Something we’d like to know too. We like the idea of learning about it but sooo many doms come across as basic control freaks. Is it reasonable to expect somebody to turn it on in the bedroom but be a normal, cooperative person outside of it?" Yes. I think it absolutely is. But I also think that VERY few people are able to frame shift in that way. The people I play with in this way absolutely treat me as an equal when we have clothes on, but they’ve been hard to find and are like diamonds in dust. | |||
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"Something we’d like to know too. We like the idea of learning about it but sooo many doms come across as basic control freaks. Is it reasonable to expect somebody to turn it on in the bedroom but be a normal, cooperative person outside of it? Yes. I think it absolutely is. But I also think that VERY few people are able to frame shift in that way. The people I play with in this way absolutely treat me as an equal when we have clothes on, but they’ve been hard to find and are like diamonds in dust." Ah, thank you. That’s what we have found, just no diamonds among the dust yet. I guess just keep going. | |||
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"Something we’d like to know too. We like the idea of learning about it but sooo many doms come across as basic control freaks. Is it reasonable to expect somebody to turn it on in the bedroom but be a normal, cooperative person outside of it? Yes. I think it absolutely is. But I also think that VERY few people are able to frame shift in that way. The people I play with in this way absolutely treat me as an equal when we have clothes on, but they’ve been hard to find and are like diamonds in dust. Ah, thank you. That’s what we have found, just no diamonds among the dust yet. I guess just keep going." It took me ages and they didn’t identify as enjoying Dom sub play. They are just imaginative kinky people and it grew from there. | |||
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"I am probably not the best to kick this off, but I’ll put in my two penn’orth. Someone for whom the mental play is as important as the physical. Someone who makes me feel respected outside of a play framework so that I can make myself vulnerable within it. Someone who can read me well so that they can anticipate my desires and reflect them back to me. And someone who isn’t too bound up in rules and etiquette, is imaginative and mixes things up.thats similar to what id go with i the mental and antisipaion games got to be there as well as creativity to do your own thing not follow rules others setexample im not a great fan of being called sir i know its respect but it grates on me i like my name but im very new learning on the job you could say but i know what i want and instict tells me what she wants There's nothing to say honorifics have to be used though - if you're not comfortable with it, don't use them, or come up with something you are comfortable with - I often think that *some* insist on their use not out of respect or anything like that, but from a need for a sense of self-validation." Thank you kinky yoda | |||
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"Something we’d like to know too. We like the idea of learning about it but sooo many doms come across as basic control freaks. Is it reasonable to expect somebody to turn it on in the bedroom but be a normal, cooperative person outside of it? Yes. I think it absolutely is. But I also think that VERY few people are able to frame shift in that way. The people I play with in this way absolutely treat me as an equal when we have clothes on, but they’ve been hard to find and are like diamonds in dust. Ah, thank you. That’s what we have found, just no diamonds among the dust yet. I guess just keep going. It took me ages and they didn’t identify as enjoying Dom sub play. They are just imaginative kinky people and it grew from there." That makes a lot of sense. Our idea has been to find a guy who dominates us a bit in the bedroom (not cuckolding but more relinquishing control) but perhaps we build with one of our current friends or even I take that role and our partners submit. Or MissJ takes the reins - she’s fairly direct in what she wants anyway. God it’s a big subject! | |||
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"I am probably not the best to kick this off, but I’ll put in my two penn’orth. Someone for whom the mental play is as important as the physical. Someone who makes me feel respected outside of a play framework so that I can make myself vulnerable within it. Someone who can read me well so that they can anticipate my desires and reflect them back to me. And someone who isn’t too bound up in rules and etiquette, is imaginative and mixes things up." Agree with this | |||
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"Simple answer - connection. Someone can be a great dominant to their previous submissive but it doesnt work for you and vice versa. The amount of guys that say I'm a great dominant with x number of years on the BDSM scene and then I find nope not for me. Absolutely it's about connection, probably even more so than in the swinging world, as a submissive I can't just give myself to anyone, I need to "feel" submissive to that person and that is probably one of the reasons my experience is limited. What is it for you though that gives rise to that connection with a dominant? Any particularly traits or styles you look for in one?" I honestly don't know because I've struggled to allow myself to submit in recent years. When I first took a interest in bdsm I was lucky as I met a dominant who understood my needs. Now I've struggled to find one. Being able to read me is the most important thing for me in finding a dominant. But too many men have a dominant nature so assume they are doms when they are far from it. | |||
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"Simple answer - connection. Someone can be a great dominant to their previous submissive but it doesnt work for you and vice versa. The amount of guys that say I'm a great dominant with x number of years on the BDSM scene and then I find nope not for me. Absolutely it's about connection, probably even more so than in the swinging world, as a submissive I can't just give myself to anyone, I need to "feel" submissive to that person and that is probably one of the reasons my experience is limited. What is it for you though that gives rise to that connection with a dominant? Any particularly traits or styles you look for in one? I honestly don't know because I've struggled to allow myself to submit in recent years. When I first took a interest in bdsm I was lucky as I met a dominant who understood my needs. Now I've struggled to find one. Being able to read me is the most important thing for me in finding a dominant. But too many men have a dominant nature so assume they are doms when they are far from it. " Can relate to that totally - think in the time I've had an interest in BDSM that I've only encountered maybe two people who I've truly "felt" submissive to, and that is key for me. Sympathise totally too that for a submissive woman the confusion of some men as to what being dominant is can make finding "the one" difficult and even fraught with danger. | |||
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"A completely subjective question I know, and I expect a variety of answers, but comments on another thread got me to wondering. So if BDSM, or even kink play, is a part of your play, or even if it isn't, what makes a good dominant or submissive for you? There are no wrong answers as such, so long as consent and knowledge form part of it, as I said it's subjective and a very individual thing. I have my own thoughts, but will hold back for now, as I don't want to skew the shape of the thread from the start." For either.. A firm idea of what they'd hope may happen, but flexible and adaptable Honesty, openness and trust. | |||
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"What makes a good Dominant or submissive? For me the basics are the keys to “good” play - open and honest communication, trust and respect. It is about learning your partners boundaries/limits and goals, building up a level of trust and respecting those boundaries when you play. The rest of it - the control, the forcefulness, the dominance, the submission, the acceptance, the obedience comes from that initial understand of each other and building on that open communication. " An excellent way to look at it - all of those things are vital and very much a two way thing. I personally believe that dominants and submissives are equals that just sit on opposite sides of the same coin and as such mutual respect, trust and honesty as well as two way communication are key. | |||
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" An excellent way to look at it - all of those things are vital and very much a two way thing. I personally believe that dominants and submissives are equals that just sit on opposite sides of the same coin and as such mutual respect, trust and honesty as well as two way communication are key." Without a doubt Dominants and submissive’s are equal - one without the other is nothing. If a submissive communicates effectively with me then I am able to adjust my dominance to those levels and vice versa. Without that honest and open communication then you are in a very dangerous grey area. | |||
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" An excellent way to look at it - all of those things are vital and very much a two way thing. I personally believe that dominants and submissives are equals that just sit on opposite sides of the same coin and as such mutual respect, trust and honesty as well as two way communication are key. Without a doubt Dominants and submissive’s are equal - one without the other is nothing. If a submissive communicates effectively with me then I am able to adjust my dominance to those levels and vice versa. Without that honest and open communication then you are in a very dangerous grey area." Again spot on, sadly though there are many on both sides of the coin that don't get or see that - from dominants who think their word goes, to submissives who don't think they have a word and should just blindly follow. Of course before you can communicate needs, desires and interests, you have to know what they are, sadly all too often we see people on here who express an interest in BDSM but display not even a basic grasp of what they expect from it - which leads you to question how they communicate that to a potential partner. | |||
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"When I domme someone, I usually find that my experience as a sub helps a lot. " When I first started out asa Dominant I was mentored by two wonderful Dommes. One of the best things they did for me was to make me experience what it is like to be a submissive. That experience really helped my to understand physically and emotionally what a submissive goes through in a session and the effects of sub drop. It is due to that experience that I empathise and understand submission so much better. | |||
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"When I domme someone, I usually find that my experience as a sub helps a lot. When I first started out asa Dominant I was mentored by two wonderful Dommes. One of the best things they did for me was to make me experience what it is like to be a submissive. That experience really helped my to understand physically and emotionally what a submissive goes through in a session and the effects of sub drop. It is due to that experience that I empathise and understand submission so much better. " Precisley xxx | |||
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"I think it's lovely to have the freedom to discuss it with sensible, intelligent, experienced people without being shouted down and called mentally ill for expressing even the mildest interest in BDSM/Roleplay or S&D. I mean how the Hell are you supposed to help people explore what they think they may be interested in. If those with the best knowledge can't pass it on to others. Well done OP, you set the right tone on an interesting subject " | |||
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