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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Come on now boys we had the pleasure of those peachy bums yesterday so today i think you should treat us ladies to those sexy torsos

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Profile pic ok?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Check out my new profile pic. Trying out the not shaved look.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *appytochatMan
over a year ago

Deep in the New Forest

On show

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Now I feel really fat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My avatar

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Looking good boys

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By *uzukiNo1Woman
over a year ago

Rhyl


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Now I feel really fat "

Behave, lovely bod

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith

I have a few pics on display, hope you like?

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By *reenleavesCouple
over a year ago

North Wales

There's a few on our gallery

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Loads of my chap on our profile x

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By *lectricSensationMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

plenty on my profile X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Looking at you hurts my eyes - so pretty! lol

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By *osco78Man
over a year ago

Sheffield

Couple on my profile X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm afraid I'm an old guy, but here you are.

I've made a couple of 'friends only' ones public too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh yeah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh my, you're all gorgeous guys! I'd love to put my hands on one or two bodies (can I say that? Lol) T xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope you like my new profile pic x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" "

You are hot

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Evening

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Evening"

You are hot too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Evening

You are hot too"

Why thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Evening

You are hot too"

Sexy x

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By *carlettxWoman
over a year ago

Essex

I’m def watching this thread ...

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"plenty on my profile X"

and a very peachy bum shot youre a day late

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hope you like my new profile pic x"

Lovely body, fantastic pic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Evening

You are hot too

Why thank you"

And Welsh - perfection!

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By *cottie77Man
over a year ago

Nottinghamshire

Mine is in my profile.

Sorry if it puts you off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Whip em out Wednesday?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Evening

You are hot too

Why thank you

And Welsh - perfection! "

indeed

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By *osco78Man
over a year ago

Sheffield


"plenty on my profile X

and a very peachy bum shot youre a day late "

My word now there's a set of impressive pics

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By *oungnhung69Man
over a year ago

crewe

Any women like mine??

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By *J RHEAMan
over a year ago

S West

Mines not worth showing off

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By *inkyKittyWoman
over a year ago

Swindon

Shall watch this thread too xx

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By *xperimentalistMan
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

Some on my profile, not much to write home about, but all paid for!

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By *ragornAndArwenCouple
over a year ago

tunbridge wells

Posing my husband as I know he’d never post it himself!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mines not worth showing off"

I disagree.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Time to take a peek

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Mines not worth showing off"

Looks good to me

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Posing my husband as I know he’d never post it himself! "

Very nice it is too

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pics on my profile. Take your pick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Take a look

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By *ude boy 2017Man
over a year ago

Bolton

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hope you like my new profile pic x

Lovely body, fantastic pic"

Thank you! Love your photo xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just changed my profile pic..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My profile pic.

It's not a tanned, toned body, so is this a bad look ??

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Whip em out Wednesday?"

Wait til tomoro ....... show us ya tackle thursday

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By *arl17Man
over a year ago

Central Portugal

Hi all xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Whip em out Wednesday?

Wait til tomoro ....... show us ya tackle thursday "

Hahaha. Brill

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"Whip em out Wednesday?

Wait til tomoro ....... show us ya tackle thursday "

Only if we get ‘Flash us ya fanny Friday’ the day after

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

Boo

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By *igBoyIrish816Man
over a year ago

Stevenage

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By *ax55Man
over a year ago

Hertford

Hey

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well for what it’s worth....hello

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine ain't all that but if your willing to look, its there to be seen

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By *ingAlMan
over a year ago

hereford

Here's one from an old guy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And me

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By *ilth500Man
over a year ago

Merseyside

form a orderly line please...

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By *ilth20Couple
over a year ago

hull

Mr uploaded one today X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"On show "

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By *aughty But Nice TwiceWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract


"Any women like mine??"

Think she said body not cock pics and no sorry I dont like them ... but some very nice body pics on this thread xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well for what it’s worth....hello "

Nice profile pic, nice torso

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any women like mine??

Think she said body not cock pics and no sorry I dont like them ... but some very nice body pics on this thread xx "

You like fat old men lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On profile x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In too!

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By *bione_1Man
over a year ago

Broxbourne

Im here

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By *oungnhung69Man
over a year ago

crewe


"Any women like mine??

Think she said body not cock pics and no sorry I dont like them ... but some very nice body pics on this thread xx "

Well if u look a bit closer u can see a full body pic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any women like mine??

Think she said body not cock pics and no sorry I dont like them ... but some very nice body pics on this thread xx

Well if u look a bit closer u can see a full body pic"

Think she's gone cock blind bud

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By *ungscotsman26Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Take a look hope you like what you see

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For what it’s worth

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By *kexpat81Man
over a year ago

Aldgate

Profile pic

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By *ouge and blueCouple
over a year ago

Cork

My man is visible on our profile.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My man is visible on our profile. "
heres mine

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By *icosaurvoMan
over a year ago

Church Crookham

Profile pic xx

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By *asygoing500Man
over a year ago

keighley

Have a look through my profile if you fancy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had my bod out all day . I'm a tart

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By *aughty But Nice TwiceWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract


"Any women like mine??

Think she said body not cock pics and no sorry I dont like them ... but some very nice body pics on this thread xx

Well if u look a bit closer u can see a full body pic"

Look bit closer... shame your body isn't as close as your cock pics ...bi wouldn't have to strain my eyes lol I am getting on ya know x

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By *aughty But Nice TwiceWoman
over a year ago

Pontefract


"Have a look through my profile if you fancy "

Sorry a lot can happen to a body in 2 yrs lol I should know xx jesus I put on 2 stone I still need to loose x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Man boobs good enough

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By *omfoolerykentMan
over a year ago

dartford

Just changed my main pic to my torso, hope you do not mind the camera slipped a little low as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm getting a little moist right now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some very sexy bods indeed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m no beach bod lol

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By *ischievous_mickMan
over a year ago

north west

There’s a few on my profile x

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By *he Mac LassWoman
over a year ago

Hefty Hideaway

Super thread OP.

Hello boys

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here is mine

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By *ust chilled out meMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

There you go not the best but its mine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Feeling a little inadequate in the bod department here. He.

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"I'm getting a little moist right now "

One of the best sentences a man could ever hear.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hello there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *he Mac LassWoman
over a year ago

Hefty Hideaway


" "

Always nice to cop an eyeful of you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Here is mine...working on it

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By *88eMan
over a year ago

Northumberland

Mine sucks hahah

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Whip em out Wednesday?

Wait til tomoro ....... show us ya tackle thursday

Only if we get ‘Flash us ya fanny Friday’ the day after "

deal !!!

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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

Best I can do

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By *orraine999Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere

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By *orraine999Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere

This thread is hotter then Florida in the middle of summer

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

Bod out

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By *oiluvfunMan
over a year ago

Penrith


"Whip em out Wednesday?

Wait til tomoro ....... show us ya tackle thursday

Only if we get ‘Flash us ya fanny Friday’ the day after

deal !!!"

Holding you to that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

mines all ways on display

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Man boobs good enough "

I dnt see no man boobs and where was u yesterday with your peachy bum pic ?!?!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"This thread is hotter then Florida in the middle of summer "

Aint it just !! Dont ya love the sexy guys on fab . Always willing to share

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Man boobs good enough

I dnt see no man boobs and where was u yesterday with your peachy bum pic ?!?! "

Busy at work

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By *wingnewbieMan
over a year ago

Melbourne

Better late than never

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bit too old for all this malarkey!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Now I feel really fat "

Yep i know what you mean i’ll get my coat

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

New one of me in public pics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine's on show in my public pics

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By *ouis CyphreMan
over a year ago

The Midlands/Leeds

Come take a look

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By *oxesMan
over a year ago

Southend, Essex

Profile pic

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By *innie The MinxWoman
over a year ago

Under the Duvet

Great thread, some lovely bods

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Great thread, some lovely bods "
Thanks

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By *ipster8Man
over a year ago

South Lincs

Doubt my dad bod chest will excite many

If only

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By *xelf787Man
over a year ago

Chorlton, Manchester

Bod pic out for the ladies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Choose one and explain why?

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By *anther81Man
over a year ago

Drogheda

Might as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lots of lovely bods in here!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Take a peek you pervs

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By *erDirtyRockstarMan
over a year ago

buckinghamshire

Peruse and perv

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By *eldomVanillaMan
over a year ago

London

Body out

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By *den-Valley-coupleCouple
over a year ago

Cumbria

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By *crookesMan
over a year ago

stamford

Good morning

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


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Now I feel really fat "

Stop it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine is available for your perusal x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine is always available for viewing x

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By *oerow16Man
over a year ago

Essex/ London

Mine is on show more on request

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By *uriouscouple38Couple
over a year ago

yorkshire

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By *hekaiserMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

You really don't want to see mine....its nothing spectacular

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By *valanche1001Man
over a year ago

Leeds

On show

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Morning all. A few pics on my profile. Take your pick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Morning people , there’s few on my profile

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Morning all

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By *uyforfun88Man
over a year ago

here

Morning, is my profile pic okay?

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By *erDirtyRockstarMan
over a year ago

buckinghamshire

A few on my profile . have a gander and don't forget to drop me a hi

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By *ussD1Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

In my public pics

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By *ornihorniMan
over a year ago

colchester

I’m in

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By *erms and conditionsCouple
over a year ago

Alton

There's one in our pics. Still not overly body confident.

C

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By *_Yeah19Couple
over a year ago

Lincoln

Plenty of SSS on our profile

TB

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

on public pic

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Choose one and explain why? "

15th march just because

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Morning, is my profile pic okay? "

Perfect and a peachy bum pic on your profile

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By *valanche1001Man
over a year ago

Leeds


"Plenty of SSS on our profile

TB"

Damn! I’ve got some sit ups to catch up on

About a billion should do it

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Plenty of SSS on our profile

TB

Damn! I’ve got some sit ups to catch up on

About a billion should do it "

Youre a bit late to the party . No sit ups needed

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By *valanche1001Man
over a year ago

Leeds


"Plenty of SSS on our profile

TB

Damn! I’ve got some sit ups to catch up on

About a billion should do it

Youre a bit late to the party . No sit ups needed "

Too kind but I’ll take that

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By *ruebameMan
over a year ago

from the womb and tryout to get back

This will have to do

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Keep mine hidden as it isn't a great dad bod lol

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By *ny1localMan
over a year ago

READING

I hope I don't put you off your food.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have a couple of torso pics on my profile but don't expect the desired 6 pack

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is a popular thread. I should state that mine is a work in progress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Morning folks, may as well jump in and let the ladies perve, more in private for those extra intrigued

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By *ude boy 2017Man
over a year ago

Bolton

Should be intresting

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By *lknhungMan
over a year ago

Luton

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By *xperimentalistMan
over a year ago

East Yorkshire

Changed it to my profile pic

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By *abbit_98Man
over a year ago

southampton

Here you go!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi girls

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Posted, try not to be ill though!

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By *tuartsCelloCouple
over a year ago

Bristol

There ya go

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By *ast_jjMan
over a year ago

Dublin and London

Most of mine is on show..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure fab or the world is quite ready for that....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Profile pic - I’m cuddly

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By *rade69Man
over a year ago

dublin

I need so attention

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mines out ladies, feel free to say hello

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Throwing into the ring

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By *rtraymondo76Man
over a year ago

Cheltenham


"There ya go "

Plenty of my torso shots on display. Just check 'em out if you're interested.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Happy Thursday

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By *UN-ALMan
over a year ago

near Fenwick

Ok uoaded a oic in garden of swingers lub in Germany at 16:30 hope it is approved

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ok il play

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By *aneyyMan
over a year ago

london

Torso pic as my profile pic I think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Count me in.

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By *rsFine-MrBallsCouple
over a year ago

markinch

Here ya go, take it easy ladies

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